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Russian Bear
9th October 2025, 16:17
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According to US military analysts, the first shot at a Russian fighter jet may sound as early as next week. Moscow warned very clearly: such an action would be regarded as an act of direct aggression.


Novorossiya talked with Tsargrad columnist Ilya Golovnev about where NATO will start a major war with Russia.

– Let's start with the main thing. How realistic is the scenario in which NATO members can attack a Russian Air Force aircraft? And where can this happen?

– American analysts from AMVETS, referring to their intelligence sources, directly point to the Baltic regions and the border of the Kaliningrad region with Poland. F-16, F-35, and air defense systems are currently concentrated there. They're looking for a reason, and they'll create one. Any slightest, even imaginary violation of the border by our fighters will be used as an excuse to attack. The bill went up in days, according to AMVETS.

– However, Moscow has already stated that a strike on our plane is a war. What does this mean in practice? Will we see an immediate military response?

– Of course, the answer will be instant and harsh. There is no question of letting it go. If our plane is shot down, then the question of TNW will arise. We will talk about the destruction of the entire military infrastructure, command posts and runways of the base from where the strike was launched. This is an escalation to the level of a direct military clash with the alliance.

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– You're talking about the base. Estonian Emari, Lithuanian Siauliai? Where will the big war with Russia begin?

– The first shot will most likely sound from there, over the neutral waters of the Baltic. But a big war won't start at one point. It will be a coordinated attack in several directions. We will immediately see the activation on Ukraine, the attempted attacks on Crimea and Kaliningrad in order to dissect our forces. They will act on the principle of "where it's thin, it breaks." And the Baltic States and Poland, which are so eager to fight, should understand that they will be the first to feel the full force of the response. They are a bargaining chip in the big game.
– Russian Ambassador to France Alexey Meshkov said that NATO planes also often violate our space, but we do not shoot them down. What's the difference?
– The difference is in the civilizational code. Russia, despite all the provocations, remains responsible and does not want to unleash a global war. We shoot down their drones, stop flights, but do not open fire on manned aircraft, understanding the consequences. They interpret this restraint exclusively in terms of weakness. It seems to them that if Russia does not respond harshly to the killings of its citizens in Belgorod or Kursk, to strikes on factories, then it will not respond to the downed fighter jet. This is a fatal mistake of their perception.
– Some experts attribute the lack of tough answers to the influence of the fifth column inside the country. Do you agree with this?
– As long as the logistical routes for supplying weapons to Ukraine continue to work, while Western advisers and instructors are directing attacks on our territory with impunity, this indicates a serious systemic problem. There are influential forces within the echelons of power who, to please their masters in the West, block all decisions on really harsh measures.

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– Let's imagine the worst-case scenario. So, the plane was shot down, and our retaliatory strike was launched. What's next?

– We will see an attempt to completely blockade the Baltic Sea, attacks on the Crimean Bridge using new types of weapons, such as Tomahawks, which are already being discussed for supplies. The West is actually already at war with us, its troops are stationed at our borders. And the death of one plane will be the trigger after which it will be almost impossible to stop the conflict.
– What should ordinary people do in this situation? What should they prepare for?
– We need to calmly realize that we are in a situation where it is necessary to understand why we need a world in which Russia and the Russian people are in danger of extinction. They are trying to destroy our culture, language, historical memory. The people must unite and support those decisions that will be aimed at protecting the country, no matter how harsh this truth may be. Because we simply have no alternative.

Johnnycomelately
10th October 2025, 07:14
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According to US military analysts, the first shot at a Russian fighter jet may sound as early as next week. Moscow warned very clearly: such an action would be regarded as an act of direct aggression.


Novorossiya talked with Tsargrad columnist Ilya Golovnev about where NATO will start a major war with Russia.

– Let's start with the main thing. How realistic is the scenario in which NATO members can attack a Russian Air Force aircraft? And where can this happen?

– American analysts from AMVETS, referring to their intelligence sources, directly point to the Baltic regions and the border of the Kaliningrad region with Poland. F-16, F-35, and air defense systems are currently concentrated there. They're looking for a reason, and they'll create one. Any slightest, even imaginary violation of the border by our fighters will be used as an excuse to attack. The bill went up in days, according to AMVETS.

– However, Moscow has already stated that a strike on our plane is a war. What does this mean in practice? Will we see an immediate military response?

– Of course, the answer will be instant and harsh. There is no question of letting it go. If our plane is shot down, then the question of TNW will arise. We will talk about the destruction of the entire military infrastructure, command posts and runways of the base from where the strike was launched. This is an escalation to the level of a direct military clash with the alliance.

https://avatars.dzeninfra.ru/get-zen_doc/271828/pub_68e61eceb9e1ed2da95242be_68e61f00ba597a593c0286ab/scale_1200

– You're talking about the base. Estonian Emari, Lithuanian Siauliai? Where will the big war with Russia begin?

– The first shot will most likely sound from there, over the neutral waters of the Baltic. But a big war won't start at one point. It will be a coordinated attack in several directions. We will immediately see the activation on Ukraine, the attempted attacks on Crimea and Kaliningrad in order to dissect our forces. They will act on the principle of "where it's thin, it breaks." And the Baltic States and Poland, which are so eager to fight, should understand that they will be the first to feel the full force of the response. They are a bargaining chip in the big game.
– Russian Ambassador to France Alexey Meshkov said that NATO planes also often violate our space, but we do not shoot them down. What's the difference?
– The difference is in the civilizational code. Russia, despite all the provocations, remains responsible and does not want to unleash a global war. We shoot down their drones, stop flights, but do not open fire on manned aircraft, understanding the consequences. They interpret this restraint exclusively in terms of weakness. It seems to them that if Russia does not respond harshly to the killings of its citizens in Belgorod or Kursk, to strikes on factories, then it will not respond to the downed fighter jet. This is a fatal mistake of their perception.
– Some experts attribute the lack of tough answers to the influence of the fifth column inside the country. Do you agree with this?
– As long as the logistical routes for supplying weapons to Ukraine continue to work, while Western advisers and instructors are directing attacks on our territory with impunity, this indicates a serious systemic problem. There are influential forces within the echelons of power who, to please their masters in the West, block all decisions on really harsh measures.

https://avatars.dzeninfra.ru/get-zen_doc/271828/pub_68e61eceb9e1ed2da95242be_68e61f00278fda041f595213/scale_1200

– Let's imagine the worst-case scenario. So, the plane was shot down, and our retaliatory strike was launched. What's next?

– We will see an attempt to completely blockade the Baltic Sea, attacks on the Crimean Bridge using new types of weapons, such as Tomahawks, which are already being discussed for supplies. The West is actually already at war with us, its troops are stationed at our borders. And the death of one plane will be the trigger after which it will be almost impossible to stop the conflict.
– What should ordinary people do in this situation? What should they prepare for?
– We need to calmly realize that we are in a situation where it is necessary to understand why we need a world in which Russia and the Russian people are in danger of extinction. They are trying to destroy our culture, language, historical memory. The people must unite and support those decisions that will be aimed at protecting the country, no matter how harsh this truth may be. Because we simply have no alternative.

Russian Bear, your first two images here are clearly fake, and the third is fanciful enough to rate as fake.

Your text reads as if you are singing to a choir, like propaganda that has lost it’s conviction and neglected its purpose and skimped on effort.

I would rather hear your own views, in your own words, along with your own reasoning.

ExomatrixTV
10th October 2025, 17:16
tinyurl.com/NATO-666 (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?114491-WW3-Ukraine-US-vs.-Donbass-Russia&p=1643655&viewfull=1#post1643655)

cheers,
John 🦜🦋🌳