When God lends a hand

[Raskolnikov]

Inspired by and keeping in line with Bill’s When Angels lend a hand, I thought we might examine the subject from another angle by asking exactly when or at what moment in your life you may have experienced real God-like powers, the superpowers occasionally spoken about when a parent frees their child by lifting a car they shouldn’t be able to lift. We’ve all heard such stories of love manifesting into superhuman strength. Yet there are other powers beyond the merely physical that we could discuss as well, such as the clair-’s, the kinetic’s, and beyond, maybe some will surprise us.

Many of you have probably shared such stories in previous threads but I ask you to share again. The clearest and easiest example of such superhuman, God-given powers is Drunvalo Melchizedek’s story of the child who so loved salamanders he regrew a foot (arm?) because he was never told he couldn’t. “There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy.”

We don’t know what we’re capable of in this realm because our entire lives we’ve been fed the opposite - fear, scarcity and limitation instead of God’s world of love, abundance and unlimited potential. So I pose these questions to you, my fellow seekers and lovers of truth: What are we capable of? What have you experienced? What miraculous and unexplainable situations and creations have you manifested? Nothing off the table.

I’ll start with my own peculiar experience, one that’s stuck with me for its sheer sense of otherworldliness, so much so in fact, that while it was happening I was keenly aware that it wasn’t the way this world operated so for me to be doing it was highly unusual indeed. A little background.

I experimented with mushrooms quite a bit in my high school years to my early twenties. The first experience a Grateful Dead concert, you can imagine my surprise. That night lasted forever and forever broke me out of my shell. It was a welcomed change as I was a painfully shy adolescent. It showed me the bigger picture, mind-expanding to be sure. I grew fond of the stinky little caps and stems and at one point did them for two-weeks straight. My older brother, dealing them at the time, would say, “Give me five bucks,” and then shove five grams in my hand. “Don’t mind if I do…”

The point here is that I was very accustomed to the drug and had never experienced anything even remotely like what I’m about to share so I don’t think one should so easily write it off as a simple drug-induced hallucination that was only occurring in my mind. I knew the people around me and even casually knew the two involved.

I grew up in a southern California beach town where drinking and experimenting with drugs was the norm. Yes, the rumors are true. I remember a bunch of us getting pulled over in my brother’s VW van and one of the cops singing, “And we’ll have fun, fun, fun, till our daddy takes the T-bird away…”

A couple friends bands were playing a show at a local hotel and the whole town was there. It was a fun night as my brother was still at it. After a full night of drinking and dancing, I remember walking up the stairs in the expansive front room that stretched the length of the long hotel. A staircase rose and fell on either side of the bar and stretched a good distance as well. It was a nice dimly lit area to catch your breath and be the observer. I leaned on the railing and began watching the customers at the bar directly below, most of whom I knew. I remember feeling really good as the music pleasantly filled the room. Something was in the air. I was standing there by myself and actually smiling, and not a brief smile mind you, but the long and unceasing kind of smile, a knowing kind of smile that comes from somewhere deep within. Just what it knew I couldn’t tell you, but it was all-encompassingly warm, pleasant and surreal. It was at this point I found myself focusing on a couple at the bar. They ordered drinks and were now coyly smiling at one another. Because of the music I couldn’t hear what they were saying but could almost read their lips. I became fascinated and tried to make out what they were saying. She had a radiant smile and I found myself thinking, “Come on girl, give him a kiss. Just lean in…” and suddenly she leaned over and gave him a kiss. I rejoiced at their good fortune. They both appeared to shyly recoil as if they weren’t really sure how or why the kiss happened. Again, I tried to read their lips. This time I could make out, “I don’t know,” and, “I’m sorry,” and then quickly, “No, don’t be sorry. I liked it.” And they both smiled with relief and renewed interest. They went back and forth in this way then relaxed next to each other sipping their drinks.

People came and went as the couple remained at the center. I’d seen them both around but didn’t really know them, very casual acquaintances as many were in the large beach town. They made a cute couple and seemed to be in a playful mood. I watched them coyly eyeing one another as if still unsure what to make of the kiss. I suddenly began planting words into his mouth and saying how he really liked her and thought she was very pretty to which she appeared to blush, obviously pleased. Then I switched to her and had her say, “I like you too. I think we should try that kiss again,” to which his eyes widened and smile broadened. I thought he should say, “You do?” which he said as the thought occurred. I have her acquiesce, “M-hmmmm,” with a smile while leaning in. They kiss again.

Understand at this point my mind is on fire, not in disbelief or questioning anything per se, but thoroughly relaxed, humming, vibrant, and truly joyful like I’d never felt before. There was something in the air. In this state a playful side of me takes a hand at it and begins manipulating them to at one moment kiss, the next moment argue, then apologize and make up again. Everything I thought, all the words I desired them to speak, even their movements and facial features were playing out exactly as I planned. I thought of new ways to manipulate them and found myself continually breaking them up just so I could watch them make up again. But one of those times I watched her slap him in the face. “Did I do that,” I thought in horror. Thank God I was able to repair the damage and have them make up one last time. And then, as remorse for my devious interference set in, it was gone. I no longer had any effect upon them as I watched them leave together with a huge sigh of relief that I hadn’t permanently severed the connection.

Of course my moral mind expounds that I wasn’t mature enough to handle such powers yet. I wielded them like a child, like a present day politician provoking war and pushing division then half-assedly offering condolences only to do it all over again. There’s a lesson in there somewhere for sure, but I’ve said enough.

What other powers have been revealed?

[Bill Ryan]

I posted here (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?118487-A-story-I-ve-never-told-about-my-not-quite-human-friend&p=1495936&viewfull=1#post1495936) about how back in 1984 my girlfriend Angi grew two and a half inches overnight.

That's biologically and physically impossible, of course, but it really did happen. We were both running around the house late at night looking for a tape measure because I realized she'd suddenly grown (a lot!), and Angi was refusing to believe it. :)

But that wasn't 'God'. She had a strong ET connection (at least!), all recounted here (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?118487-A-story-I-ve-never-told-about-my-not-quite-human-friend) in as much detail as I could find any way to describe.

:stars::shooting star:

[Russian Bear]

Regarding clairvoyance.

In Orthodoxy, clairvoyance is considered a gift received not from God, but from the devil. The Church believes that people withhold this gift with the help of evil spirits—demons.

To describe clairvoyance, Orthodoxy uses another term—sagacity. It is received by people cleansed of sins and passions, usually chaste, meek, humble, and constantly engaged in church or private prayer.

The Russian Orthodox Church believes that people who are not churchgoers and are not on friendly terms with God cannot have the gift of clairvoyance from God.


"Man by himself is nothing."

For example, in a sermon by Elder Luke of Philotheou, it is said: "By responding to God's love, man becomes a person; he understands that man by himself is nothing, but in the light of God's plan, he is valuable and significant."

There is also a quote from St. Tikhon of Zadonsk (Sokolov): "Man by himself has nothing but weakness, corruption, sin, and wretchedness, and if he has or does anything good, it is from God, not from him."

[Bill Ryan]

Regarding clairvoyance.

In Orthodoxy, clairvoyance is considered a gift received not from God, but from the devil. The Church believes that people withhold this gift with the help of evil spirits—demons.

To describe clairvoyance, Orthodoxy uses another term—sagacity. It is received by people cleansed of sins and passions, usually chaste, meek, humble, and constantly engaged in church or private prayer.

The Russian Orthodox Church believes that people who are not churchgoers and are not on friendly terms with God cannot have the gift of clairvoyance from God.

"Man by himself is nothing."

For example, in a sermon by Elder Luke of Philotheou, it is said: "By responding to God's love, man becomes a person; he understands that man by himself is nothing, but in the light of God's plan, he is valuable and significant."

There is also a quote from St. Tikhon of Zadonsk (Sokolov): "Man by himself has nothing but weakness, corruption, sin, and wretchedness, and if he has or does anything good, it is from God, not from him."Mod note from Bill:

You really have to stop belittling and invalidating others' genuine and sincere experiences, just because you yourself have a very rigid belief system which you refuse to question. You may very well be quite wrong in a great deal that you believe.

:flower:

[Raskolnikov]

Regarding clairvoyance.

In Orthodoxy, clairvoyance is considered a gift received not from God, but from the devil. The Church believes that people withhold this gift with the help of evil spirits—demons.

To describe clairvoyance, Orthodoxy uses another term—sagacity. It is received by people cleansed of sins and passions, usually chaste, meek, humble, and constantly engaged in church or private prayer.

The Russian Orthodox Church believes that people who are not churchgoers and are not on friendly terms with God cannot have the gift of clairvoyance from God.


"Man by himself is nothing."

For example, in a sermon by Elder Luke of Philotheou, it is said: "By responding to God's love, man becomes a person; he understands that man by himself is nothing, but in the light of God's plan, he is valuable and significant."

There is also a quote from St. Tikhon of Zadonsk (Sokolov): "Man by himself has nothing but weakness, corruption, sin, and wretchedness, and if he has or does anything good, it is from God, not from him."

I appreciate your great faith, Russian Bear, but was hoping for something a little more personal and revealing. I'm sure many of you great God-fearing Russians have a story to tell in this field of thought. Peace be with you comrade.

[Russian Bear]

Come on Bill, this inappropriate tolerance, I read the story, it was interesting. Then I expressed my opinion on several issues. I didn't humiliate or insult anyone. I openly and sincerely expressed my opinion. I'm not a hundred-dollar bill, trying to please everyone. I could have kept quiet and not commented. But I won't be hypocritical with you; I'm straightforward. How could I not keep quiet? Or do you want cliched, hypocritical opinions?

Raskolkov, are you offended by me? Did I say something wrong? Just tell me so I know!

Then I'll just keep quiet so as not to offend anyone.

Bill, I read your article about how you were taken by aliens (demons). You know, what you said was really scary; I was genuinely worried about you. You have no idea how much danger you were in. When you see such creatures, remember the prayer addressed to the Lord Jesus Christ for help and protection from them, and you will see the true demonic face of these large-eyed humanoids.

The demons created these UFOs to wage war on God and zombify people. So that people would touch the semi-material ships and say, "Yes, these are starships from another universe."

Contact with UFOs is very dangerous; a person loses strength, which is what happened to you; they suck out your life energy.

Angie said that Earth is very beautiful. But the truth is, she never went anywhere; these aliens showed her various things through hypnosis. Here she is in space, here she sees unusual things underwater, and then something else... It's all a deception.

These humanoids lie to people and say whatever they want, for example, that they are being driven out by evil cosmic forces. In reality, they fear God and are at war with Him.

Their UFOs are fueled by diamonds supplied by the world government. They have been given permission to abduct people.

During the reign of the Antichrist, UFOs will descend to Earth and present themselves as both angels of light and aliens, setting up tents where people will enter, supposedly for healing and treatment. Then demons (UFOs) will take their souls, and when they emerge, they will be zombies, their souls already demonic.

Do you know what they want to do with a human soul? They want to turn your soul into something like a diamond, which will serve as endless fuel for their ship. They want to compress the human soul. But God will not allow this. When they conduct experiments on you, they may take a small piece of your skin to then grow a layer of skin and cover themselves with it, thus creating reptilians. They are among the people who are part of the world government. Basically, you are in grave danger; you don't even know what you're doing.

Take at least a few small marble pieces and make beads out of them. UFOs are afraid of marble; if their craft flies over a marble quarry, they will crash. This is an unusual stone. If they suddenly want to contact you, I urge you to start praying to the Lord Jesus Christ and obtain marble pieces. And wear a cross around your neck, if you are a Christian, of course. Whether you believe me or not is your business. But I care about you, otherwise I wouldn't be writing all this. Therefore, I cannot be tolerant when it comes to the salvation of the human soul. Or do you think I came here to be clever???!!!

I am doing everything I can to warn you. And I will speak openly with you, without hypocrisy. And I want to add that I have never insulted anyone or shown disrespect to anyone on this forum. I have told you what is in my heart, in a civilized manner and, most importantly, honestly and openly. If everyone here thinks I'm rude, I won't comment on any more articles. We think differently and have different spiritual and mystical experiences.

I don't think you're making anything up in your stories; I take them seriously. And what you're saying is serious and dangerous. Don't play with fire. They want to kill people and take them to hell. Well, it's up to you to decide.

If you're not used to hearing things that differ from your opinion, then really, I shouldn't be interfering with my comments. You are right about that.

(UFO demons) ACCORDING TO THE SCENARIO OF THE NEW WORLD ORDER
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?129499-Washington-Carousel--UFO--IMPORTANT-TRUTH---&p=1687554&viewfull=1#post1687554

[Bill Ryan]

Come on Bill, this inappropriate tolerance, I read the story, it was interesting. Then I expressed my opinion on several issues. I didn't humiliate or insult anyone. I openly and sincerely expressed my opinion. I'm not a hundred-dollar bill, trying to please everyone. I could have kept quiet and not commented. But I won't be hypocritical with you; I'm straightforward. How could I not keep quiet? Or do you want cliched, hypocritical opinions?

Raskolkov, are you offended by me? Did I say something wrong? Just tell me so I know!

Then I'll just keep quiet so as not to offend anyone.

Bill, I read your article about how you were taken by aliens (demons). You know, what you said was really scary; I was genuinely worried about you. You have no idea how much danger you were in. When you see such creatures, remember the prayer addressed to the Lord Jesus Christ for help and protection from them, and you will see the true demonic face of these large-eyed humanoids.

The demons created these UFOs to wage war on God and zombify people. So that people would touch the semi-material ships and say, "Yes, these are starships from another universe."

Contact with UFOs is very dangerous; a person loses strength, which is what happened to you; they suck out your life energy.

Angie said that Earth is very beautiful. But the truth is, she never went anywhere; these aliens showed her various things through hypnosis. Here she is in space, here she sees unusual things underwater, and then something else... It's all a deception.

These humanoids lie to people and say whatever they want, for example, that they are being driven out by evil cosmic forces. In reality, they fear God and are at war with Him.

Their UFOs are fueled by diamonds supplied by the world government. They have been given permission to abduct people.

During the reign of the Antichrist, UFOs will descend to Earth and present themselves as both angels of light and aliens, setting up tents where people will enter, supposedly for healing and treatment. Then demons (UFOs) will take their souls, and when they emerge, they will be zombies, their souls already demonic.

Do you know what they want to do with a human soul? They want to turn your soul into something like a diamond, which will serve as endless fuel for their ship. They want to compress the human soul. But God will not allow this. When they conduct experiments on you, they may take a small piece of your skin to then grow a layer of skin and cover themselves with it, thus creating reptilians. They are among the people who are part of the world government. Basically, you are in grave danger; you don't even know what you're doing.

Take at least a few small marble pieces and make beads out of them. UFOs are afraid of marble; if their craft flies over a marble quarry, they will crash. This is an unusual stone. If they suddenly want to contact you, I urge you to start praying to the Lord Jesus Christ and obtain marble pieces. And wear a cross around your neck, if you are a Christian, of course. Whether you believe me or not is your business. But I care about you, otherwise I wouldn't be writing all this. Therefore, I cannot be tolerant when it comes to the salvation of the human soul. Or do you think I came here to be clever???!!!

I am doing everything I can to warn you. And I will speak openly with you, without hypocrisy. And I want to add that I have never insulted anyone or shown disrespect to anyone on this forum. I have told you what is in my heart, in a civilized manner and, most importantly, honestly and openly. If everyone here thinks I'm rude, I won't comment on any more articles. We think differently and have different spiritual and mystical experiences.

I don't think you're making anything up in your stories; I take them seriously. And what you're saying is serious and dangerous. Don't play with fire. They want to kill people and take them to hell. Well, it's up to you to decide.

If you're not used to hearing things that differ from your opinion, then really, I shouldn't be interfering with my comments.

(UFO demons) ACCORDING TO THE SCENARIO OF THE NEW WORLD ORDER
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?129499-Washington-Carousel--UFO--IMPORTANT-TRUTH---&p=1687554&viewfull=1#post1687554~~~

You have no idea what you are talking about.

:focus:

[Russian Bear]

If you first start praying to the Lord Jesus Christ, and then tell me what happened to those UFOs when you started praying, you will cause them immense pain with your holy prayer. You can't even imagine what will happen. And then you will understand what I was talking about.

[Raskolnikov]

To describe clairvoyance, Orthodoxy uses another term—sagacity. It is received by people cleansed of sins and passions, usually chaste, meek, humble, and constantly engaged in church or private prayer.

The Russian Orthodox Church believes that people who are not churchgoers and are not on friendly terms with God cannot have the gift of clairvoyance from God.

"Man by himself is nothing."

Here we disagree. I believe people can by on friendly terms with God without going to church. It's an inner connection with God first and foremost, church or no church. In fact, almost every time I've entered a church I've felt repulsed by the hypocricy and felt my connection with God diminish. For example, I attended the funeral of distant relative where the pastor, in his long sermon and eulogy, said, "It's too bad she won't make it into heaven because she wasn't baptized before she died." I looked around the room to see if others had heard what I just heard. Only my closest cousin caught it and was just as outraged as I was. I approached him later and voiced my disgust. Religion is the most intolerant of all, division of the highest order. We all bleed red, or at least I think we all do, who's to say what the reps and greys bleed?


Raskolkov, are you offended by me? Did I say something wrong? Just tell me so I know!

Not in the slightest RB. But I would greatly appreciate hearing from others and getting this thread back on track if you wouldn't mind. It was never my aim for this thread to create a rift between members.

https://media.tenor.com/J9pbOQwBck4AAAAM/wonder-twins.gif

(that's a joke, more superpowers, less dumpster fire)

[Bill Ryan]

If you first start praying to the Lord Jesus Christ, and then tell me what happened to those UFOs when you started praying, you will cause them immense pain with your holy prayer. You can't even imagine what will happen. And then you will understand what I was talking about.

We've made the decision now to retire your account.

This is not a 'ban', as you've not really broken any forum guidelines. But you truly don't belong here — in a community which is eclectic, spiritual, highly aware, very understanding of others' views and experiences, and (importantly) where no-one ever tries to preach. (I know you've said a few times that you're not a preacher, but you really do try.)

You're 25 years old, and you think you know everything — including that the Earth is Flat. (For others reading this, he started the thread titled Flat Earth is reality. People do not know the secret of the universe (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?129522-HOAX-Flat-Earth-is-reality.-People-do-not-know-the-secret-of-the-universe) 4 days after his forum application was approved.)

We tolerated that — an exception to our usual internal rule — because some of your other threads, especially the historical ones, seemed interesting, intelligent and well-researched. But that very topic reveals that everything you feel you understand and believe so very strongly may not be as well-founded as you think.

But all your posts — even the Flat Earth ones — will remain, and we're not going to delete or remove anything. And because you're just 'retired' (not 'banned') you'll continue to be able to read anything on the forum, including in members-only sections, if you want to do so.

A word of advice, if I may.

Another Russian member, Mashika (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/member.php?45714-Mashika), posted extensively before she went on sabbatical 2 years ago. (She started 120 threads and had 3,400 posts on every topic one can imagine.) She was your age, having joined when she was younger, but her humor, her sincere interest in almost everything that was posted by other members, and her razor-sharp intelligence (not to mention her willingness to learn English, which she mastered very quickly) might be a good example for you to think about.

But I don't think you've ever seen a single thing that she wrote.

Unlike her, you've been far more intent on posting your own material than exploring the forum to discover what else is there, an enormous library of information and shared experience for anyone of any age to learn from. (That's a little like someone at a dinner party who increasingly irritates the other guests because they will not stop talking and are not interested in listening to anyone else.)

Finally, regarding the two threads on which you did read and post on recently — this one and its companion, When Angels lend a hand (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?130511-When-Angels-lend-a-hand) — you failed to take any time to understand that the references to 'Angels' and 'God' were metaphors.

But instead, as soon as you saw those words, you jumped straight in to preach. Some members may have been interested in what you shared (and your posts will stay) — but I suspect very few.

Мы искренне желаем Вам всего наилучшего. :flower:

:focus:

[Hym]

Before I spend any time writing a response to YOUR posts R.B., I'm going to schedule a root canal, a colonoscopy and 30 hours of tattoo removal just to remind myself that there have to be less painful, more useful endeavors than responding to your ignorance here.....
Heavens....I might even schedule a hysterectomy, which would be an historic event considering that I'm a man. I also don't have any tattoos, at least from my limited views.

Addition: I wrote this while Bill was writing his post above. Thank You, Bill. It seems that I'm going to have to cancel all of those appointments.

Russian Bear, What are you doing on this forum?
It is a forum of some deep respect for the faith and experiences of others, which your narrow mindedness completely works against.

In this obvious context it seems that you are eventually, if not initially, a reminder of the pitfalls of a very studied and impressively closed mind. No one here wishes to change anything you write or attempts to convince you of your experience's giving you either validity or self delusion, until you insist that others grasp on to your engagement with fear, your being married to Fear. Not to worry about anyone here having any fear of your words or your influence. Your extensive and scholarly writings are a much different read to most of us than what your intentions are trying to elicit from any of our responses.

You do your soul a great disservice by doing no investigation of the fearlessness that only your purposeful removal of your ego can awaken.
You do take much pride in your abilities to repeat scriptural rules and regulations, which in the lives of those of us who have spiritually rejected the deliberate reconstruction of the words and intentions of Jesus, tell us that those weren't his words or intentions anyway. In fact, the history of the world that has misused His examples and tremendous sacrifices, only to abuse and misuse their fellow brothers and sisters, is proof of how futile, how deceitful those dogmas and doctrines are.

Dogmatic religious institutions have rewritten truths, turning them into lies and attributed those lies as the words, the examples and the life of Yessuah Messah, Jesus. This world has for a long time been the reckoning ground for the stark misuse and abuse of the words of great men, the life and times of Yessuah being the worst example. Brother to brother, child of the Creator to child of The Creator, I know that it is not fear that brings anyone to living a spiritual life.

In some contexts the words you quote can be universally sound, until they attempt to define the lives and the intentions, even the self sacrifices of others who do not hold so steadfastly to the empty rituals and dogmatic indoctrinations of this worlds religions, religions which by definition are not spiritual.

We attribute deceit to the real world evil of some other entity and not to the words of other humans, when it is only through the words of other humans that the life of a Christian can be manipulated. They don't need the influence of demons to be evil, just as they don't need the experience of Jesus, nor the re-interpretations of his words, to be real Christians. It seems that you either didn't spend enough time in a monastery or you spent too much time there without getting out into the world, while in your human body, to non-judgementally serve others. That is exactly what the example was, and is.

Your comments, RB, are some of the best examples of dogma and prejudice, both attributes of spiritual ignorance. I'd put you in any survival situation with others who live with different spiritual practices, as well as those religious fanatics from any other path, like some of those Russians who are your countrymen, and then ask you where were their demons and devils when they put their lives on the line for you, even as they may know you come off to them as a very prejudiced and close minded man, who none the less also deserves to live the life God granted. If you ever find yourself in those situations again, do know that your close minded opinions will put you at the end of the line when they choose to fight with you. Not my choice, because I would not judge living that way, but common sense tells anyone that would be the case. I do not reward ignorance by treating it differently than efforts made to understand, but your working so hard to expose and not learn from the dogma you hold so dear will not protect you from the judgements of the other people you meet.

My advice, if you choose to heed a call from one who has read the same writings from the minds, the words and the hands of others exactly like yours over the years, is to calm yourself down and allow nothing but The God you personally do not know, show you the way beyond your fear, because the words you put here are not the words of a spiritually aware soul, claiming you know God, which your words do not confirm. God is not dogma, altho I see the modern interpretation of both of those words as the same thing.

If there is anything that a human might fear, beyond the ridiculous notion that it is God we must fear, it is not understanding and removing why fear has any influence in our lives. Do fear that lost opportunity to find and fulfill your own life's Loving Purpose. The translation from religion texts of "fear" should in all reality be fearing that we have not accomplished, worked for, engaged in, or learned why each one of us is personally here, having these experiences, and not be the atheist calling out for protection when their lives are threatened. If there is any perception that the reasons should be to harm others beyond the needs for self protection, you are sorely mistaken. You know not what you are doing.

The excuses of people calling the evil they choose to do as being the result of the influence of demons are the excuses of those people who do not honor the responsibilities given by life itself, given by God if you will. Without personal responsibility to your life and the lives of others you will forever be the pawn of those who created religions in the first place. We are responsible for those things we can protect and change, just as we are not responsible for the actions of others, including nature.

Accepting the ignorance in others, especially the ignorance that held our attention at some point in our own lives, is accepting the growth we have gone through and informs us about how we can apply our own compassion and sharing from our lives to the lives of others.

You have written quite a bit on this thread, in the only forum that would accept you into a space if you are looking to discover the deeper and obvious reasons for your outstanding ability to convey ignorance. My response, as well as those you have received from others, is because you are calling out for another view. If you are looking for converts or affirmations of your extreme biases you are in the wrong place. If you don't understand this, there is nothing that can be shared with you that confirms your biases, let alone some respite from wasting the precious gifts of time.

[Raskolnikov]

This thread is one of the best examples of dogma and prejudice

Hym, your superpower is the ability to completely ignore the aim of my thread and then throw me under the bus with RB. The OP is anything but dogma yet somehow my face is covered in tire tracks. Trying to make light of a difficult situation. I agree with much of what you said Hym. Religious fervor in the young can be strong yet misguided. And now you're all giving RB a Jesus persecution complex and he probably feels more righteous than ever. If it means anything RB, I enjoyed some of our conversations, but religious intolerance is truly the scourge of this world. If God is love, then it's time to prove it in your words and actions. Peace be with you comrade.

[Bill Ryan]

This thread is one of the best examples of dogma and prejudice

Hym, your superpower is the ability to completely ignore the aim of my thread and then throw me under the bus with RB. The OP is anything but dogma yet somehow my face is covered in tire tracks. Trying to make light of a difficult situation. I agree with much of what you said Hym. Religious fervor in the young can be strong yet misguided. And now you're all giving RB a Jesus persecution complex and he probably feels more righteous than ever. If it means anything RB, I enjoyed some of our conversations, but religious intolerance is truly the scourge of this world. If God is love, then it's time to prove it in your words and actions. Peace be with you comrade.Please do allow me to step in here briefly! :heart:

1) Hym was actually referring to Russian Bear's posts as "one of the best examples of dogma and prejudice". Not anything at all that you wrote, or the intention of your thread itself — which I fully support, as does he.

2) The religious intolerance came from Russian Bear himself. We have quite a few other threads about all aspects of religion, and the respect and tolerance for many different points of view is one that I think the community can be fully proud of.

:flower::grouphug: :flower:

[Raskolnikov]

This thread is one of the best examples of dogma and prejudice

Hym, your superpower is the ability to completely ignore the aim of my thread and then throw me under the bus with RB. The OP is anything but dogma yet somehow my face is covered in tire tracks. Trying to make light of a difficult situation. I agree with much of what you said Hym. Religious fervor in the young can be strong yet misguided. And now you're all giving RB a Jesus persecution complex and he probably feels more righteous than ever. If it means anything RB, I enjoyed some of our conversations, but religious intolerance is truly the scourge of this world. If God is love, then it's time to prove it in your words and actions. Peace be with you comrade.Please do allow me to step in here briefly! :heart:

1) Hym was actually referring to Russian Bear's posts as "one of the best examples of dogma and prejudice". Not anything at all that you wrote, or the intention of your thread itself — which I fully support, as does he.

2) The religious intolerance came from Russian Bear himself. We have quite a few other threads about all aspects of religion, and the respect and tolerance for many different points of view is one that I think the community can be fully proud of.

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I know. Thank you Bill. Your superpower has always been tolerance and respect, that's what drew us here in the first place, but even tolerance has its limits and we've got greater things to concern ourselves with,

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so we're gonna need to tap into those superpowers if we're going to make it...

[Hym]

Thanks Bill.
And in your response to his response to my response from my ignorance of the beauty of the original post of his thread:

I'm So Sorry, Raskolinkov. I fixed my post by changing one word, from "thread" to "post", yours to his. And knowing you a bit, I know you knew what I meant. All the more, and none the less....Missed it, I did.

Your original post is surely a prompt to share some experiences, tho I will have to post an "Adult Content Warning" to begin some of them. Good God, I still am trying to get used to that word....sometimes, as in this case, I overreact and forget who I'm talking with.

Back to the Topic:

Reading your account of those shroomed moments in time is interesting because I have some insight being around some colorful few who possessed those abilities and used them in very ethical ways, without additional chemical prompts, or being permanently stricken with those abilities by overuse of chemicals. When these experiences have happened regularly in our lives without ingesting anything special, quite like Ulli has said, we see and feel them as normal. However, it is the habit of many of us to externalize what only could occur as a part of the interconnectivity between all we are and what is, tho it may seemingly come from outside of us.

I only met one notable figure who abused these abilities. In that darkened soul's case every single encounter I had with him turned out to be hilarious, even if, especially because, he was so unethical and humourless. In those encounters, they were so illustrative of why most humans should not have them without some guidance, that I either laughed or put away any extra weapons I carried,.... and he always skulked away, or grunted in response.

[Johnnycomelately]

Looks like “God” has lent a hand, to this thread. Nice to see barking stop and some friendly sniffs ensue.

I say “It’s nice when things turn out nice”, but I think we owe it to our bother Bill for helping that along. Perhaps a new thread titled “When friends lend a hand”?

Rask, dude, about your OP, post #1. I have felt when my intent has triggered other people, but only in real time, never ~predictive like you describe. Are you sure that this perception wasn’t a result of a, what I call a time-warp, due to your shroom loading?

[Raskolnikov]

Looks like “God” has lent a hand, to this thread. Nice to see barking stop and some friendly sniffs ensue.

I say “It’s nice when things turn out nice”, but I think we owe it to our bother Bill for helping that along. Perhaps a new thread titled “When friends lend a hand”?

Rask, dude, about your OP, post #1. I have felt when my intent has triggered other people, but only in real time, never ~predictive like you describe. Are you sure that this perception wasn’t a result of a, what I call a time-warp, due to your shroom loading?

Shroom loading? Time-warp? Hey, it’s certainly possible, my synapses were most definitely firing. By using the word God in the title, I refer to the power of the Creator and God is as good a word as any. It’s something larger than ourselves which connects us all. Most people around the world refer to this power or energy as God. In this respect, I agree with Russian Bear when he said, “Man by himself is nothing.” There is a higher power involved and we must open a way to connect ourselves more strongly with it. Do we even truly understand what It is and how It works? And yet it is our life force, plain and simple. So in this vein I like to think it was God’s little way of showing me a bigger picture at work.

LA in the 80’s was a very materialistic world, a very empty world, and this was God’s way of demonstrating some profound cosmic principle that both showed me the existence of that all-connecting force while alluding to the limitless potential and unimaginable possibilities of remaining in that holy space of love to ultimately become one with that force. Maybe this is our purpose because isn’t that what all the great mystics were trying to teach their adepts? I think He was trying to show me that I still had some inner work to do. Those are my thoughts anyway, I’m sure some will simply write it off as shroom loading (love that!), but it wasn’t any more than usual and that never happened before or since.

And don’t sweat it Hym, I was just having a little fun trying to redirect back to the OP. Guess all that preaching got people a little fired up.

[Matthew]

...Mod note from Bill:

...

Ok, so there's enough off topic with this so I'll keep it brief and then let it go. I think I understand the final decision but I want to say for the record Russian Bear reflects the view of the Bible accurately, be it with a rusk delivery that .. well, while his posts did attribute the view as "the Orthodox Church's view..." clearly it was also his own view. Look, I wouldn't have put it as rusk as RB did, but it's also my view. No disrespect is meant to you reader but there's no getting round it. I know what you're thinking? that I post such opinions with more experience of the forum and tread more tactfully, carefully. So I think I get the decision. If RB's opinions weren't so openly and explicitly Biblicaly aligned/quoted then I suspect he would still be posting here as normal. I think he understands about the preaching because him and me have chatted since his banning, and he's a good guy imo with plenty of compatible posts here. I know the rub and brusqueness was off, I think he can learn and change. But that's too much from me already, so I shall move on quickly.


Now on-topic.

I strongly believe I have had divine intervention after divine intervention. My favorite was when God cured me of fleas. I prayed "Jesus my healer, rid me of these fleas or give me the knowledge to rid myself from these fleas". I then had the most surreal vision I couldn't even make up: half a lemon then me washing myself in it and going to bed all happy. Seriously, I thought "that wasn't from me", and just glared at these seemingly random mental images. After I had accepted them as a vision from Heaven I looked up lemons and fleas on the internet. I learnt D-Limonene which is extracted from lemons by steeping them (boiling for a few minutes then letting them sit in the water for four to eight hours), will kill fleas and flea eggs. After straining then washing myself in the steeped lemon water I went to bed. The fleas jumped to me and then died. I did this for a few mornings and bedtimes.

But there are others, so many others. I didn't play guitar, and refused to learn more than five open chords until my Church invited me to play 'bass guitar'. The strange thing was when the pastor was typing the message on WhatsApp to ask me to play bass guitar I knew exactly what the message was going to be about. There was no precedent for me knowing this, not ever played bass guitar, or for her to invite me to play it, so it wasn't as if I could have guessed, but I absolutely knew what message was that she was currently typing to me. I had played hand-drums and synth keyboards but not for the Church. I wasn't involved in the Church music, had never been asked nor had ever asked myself.

But I knew what she was going to ask me. I even started to respond to it, which made her stop typing. But then I thought it's weird enough already, I should let her type her message (that I knew what it was) because otherwise it's even more confusing. She finally finished her message, exactly as I expected with one addition: she had a bass guitar that she could lend me. I reluctantly accepted but a bit overwhelmed with the prospect of having to learn bass technique, and more music theory (that complements bass guitar really well, I mean I barely knew what a chord was.). I was getting stressed with the prospect of learning bass, but when she turned up with the guitar she was going to lend me, it turned out to be a regular 6 string electric guitar. This was a relief because that's easier (less foundational, structural and more mucking about over the top of the music).

A few weeks later, after spending my life rejecting the identity as a guitar player, mocking them saying "I refuse to play an instrument made of cheese wire", well, a few weeks later I was playing guitar in Church. I won't be the greatest guitar player but people have said they thought I'd played guitar for seven or eight years, but it's about a year and a half.

When God lends a hand it's not by any ritual, and boy His blessing overflows. It's like a blast domino effect of blessings emanating from you. God isn't the only one who lends a hand though, and non-God 'blessings' are weak, often involve ritual but not always, can backfire, and are generally a bit ****. I have more stories, some that make me cry because of God generosity and mercy for my friends and family, with timings and coincidences and such an unlikely chain of events that it's surely supernatural. But from my very stubborn point of view this supernatural power is from the Host of Hosts. I also believe in the supernatural power of fallen angels. If you literally want to meet Jesus Christ of Nazareth it's your personal privilege and you can ask in the secret place.

[Ernie Nemeth]

Too bad about his attitude. I really enjoyed his history lessons on Russia.

His offerings were a lot more useful than many other posts here on Avalon.

But, his religious fervor (spellcheck says this is not a word) was his undoing.

Like in all things, I am mostly immune to this sort of travesty to my sensibilities these days, having experienced so many others leave or be expelled over the years.


The moral of the story might be that fanatical believers are a scourge on society as they are inherently intolerant and have no mercy for those of other beliefs. And that goes for any belief, including ideology, politics, religion, science, philosophy, or metaphysics. With a small caveat, even mathematics can be added to the group.

A treatise could be written about the difference between to believe and to know.

Some might say it is the difference between an angel or God lending a hand...

[Sue (Ayt)]

I enjoyed RB's informative posts about Russia, too.

What I do not enjoy is when people rush in to "rain on our parades."
No one asked for opinions on this thread, but for personal experiences shared.
(if you can't participate in the fun, better to stay home)
People that do this are also known as "Debbie Downers"
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[Raskolnikov]

I strongly believe I have had divine intervention after divine intervention. My favorite was when God cured me of fleas. I prayed "Jesus my healer, rid me of these fleas or give me the knowledge to rid myself from these fleas". I then had the most surreal vision I couldn't even make up: half a lemon then me washing myself in it and going to bed all happy. Seriously, I thought "that wasn't from me", and just glared at these seemingly random mental images. After I had accepted them as a vision from Heaven I looked up lemons and fleas on the internet. I learnt D-Limonene which is extracted from lemons by steeping them (boiling for a few minutes then letting them sit in the water for four to eight hours), will kill fleas and flea eggs. After straining then washing myself in the steeped lemon water I went to bed. The fleas jumped to me and then died. I did this for a few mornings and bedtimes.

But there are others, so many others. I didn't play guitar, and refused to learn more than five open chords until my Church invited me to play 'bass guitar'. The strange thing was when the pastor was typing the message on WhatsApp to ask me to play bass guitar I knew exactly what the message was going to be about. There was no precedent for me knowing this, not ever played bass guitar, or for her to invite me to play it, so it wasn't as if I could have guessed, but I absolutely knew what message was that she was currently typing to me. I had played hand-drums and synth keyboards but not for the Church. I wasn't involved in the Church music, had never been asked nor had ever asked myself.

But I knew what she was going to ask me. I even started to respond to it, which made her stop typing. But then I thought it's weird enough already, I should let her type her message (that I knew what it was) because otherwise it's even more confusing. She finally finished her message, exactly as I expected with one addition: she had a bass guitar that she could lend me. I reluctantly accepted but a bit overwhelmed with the prospect of having to learn bass technique, and more music theory (that complements bass guitar really well, I mean I barely knew what a chord was.). I was getting stressed with the prospect of learning bass, but when she turned up with the guitar she was going to lend me, it turned out to be a regular 6 string electric guitar. This was a relief because that's easier (less foundational, structural and more mucking about over the top of the music).

A few weeks later, after spending my life rejecting the identity as a guitar player, mocking them saying "I refuse to play an instrument made of cheese wire", well, a few weeks later I was playing guitar in Church. I won't be the greatest guitar player but people have said they thought I'd played guitar for seven or eight years, but it's about a year and a half.

When God lends a hand it's not by any ritual, and boy His blessing overflows. It's like a blast domino effect of blessings emanating from you. God isn't the only one who lends a hand though, and non-God 'blessings' are weak, often involve ritual but not always, can backfire, and are generally a bit ****. I have more stories, some that make me cry because of God generosity and mercy for my friends and family, with timings and coincidences and such an unlikely chain of events that it's surely supernatural. But from my very stubborn point of view this supernatural power is from the Host of Hosts. I also believe in the supernatural power of fallen angels. If you literally want to meet Jesus Christ of Nazareth it's your personal privilege and you can ask in the secret place.

Great stories Matthew, thanks for sharing. Glad you've experienced plenty of supernatural and divine intervention in your life. "I refuse to play an instrument made of cheese wire"! And yet you do my friend. Very funny indeed. When you get down to it, music is one of the realms where we can actually feel divine intervention or connection in real time. You can sense it and actually see it when a musician is truly inspired and the music is coming from a greater force than themselves. I've experienced it myself, the feeling of letting go and really being in the moment, all judgments and thoughts suspended, just the feeling of being truly alive and in the moment. There's real power in music and sometimes the cheese wire comes alive.


A treatise could be written about the difference between to believe and to know.

Some might say it is the difference between an angel or God lending a hand...

Agreed. To believe and to know, that's the kicker. Someone should write that treatise. We see it all around us, people believe Charlie Kirk was a nazi while in reality they know nothing.


What I do not enjoy is when people rush in to "rain on our parades."
No one asked for opinions on this thread, but for personal experiences shared.
(if you can't participate in the fun, better to stay home)
People that do this are also known as "Debbie Downers"

Thanks Sue, nobody likes a Debbie Downer!

[Mike Gorman]

Religion really has a lot to answer for, the intellectual stifle that zealotry produces is so very oppressive and counter to the questing human spirit: all of the great leaps forward & most significant discoveries have been in defiance of the Catholic church in the distant past: more recently the dogma of Science itself has become a secular religion and seeks to command us all to bow before 'Peer Review' as if this is an absolute which cannot be questioned, despite these 'Peer groups' falling prey to the deep pockets of funding - "publish these findings & your career is assured; or your tenure is approved: while religion has worked to provide education & enlightened values to flourish over the past centuries, it has also worked to keep the people in their place while the ruling ecclesiastical powers cooperate with the political ambitions of whatever state is then in power: a "mixed blessing" indeed!
Can you tell that I am a once Catholic? Hahaha.

[Raskolnikov]

Religion really has a lot to answer for, the intellectual stifle that zealotry produces is so very oppressive and counter to the questing human spirit: all of the great leaps forward & most significant discoveries have been in defiance of the Catholic church in the distant past: more recently the dogma of Science itself has become a secular religion and seeks to command us all to bow before 'Peer Review' as if this is an absolute which cannot be questioned, despite these 'Peer groups' falling prey to the deep pockets of funding - "publish these findings & your career is assured; or your tenure is approved: while religion has worked to provide education & enlightened values to flourish over the past centuries, it has also worked to keep the people in their place while the ruling ecclesiastical powers cooperate with the political ambitions of whatever state is then in power: a "mixed blessing" indeed!
Can you tell that I am a once Catholic? Hahaha.

No one saw that coming Mike, lol. Since I’m a little surprised that more haven’t contributed experiences of feeling at one with God, of God lending a hand, and since most seem intent on discussing the pros and cons of organized religion in light of Russian Bear’s account being retired, maybe we should have that discussion. Like you Matthew, I had some nice conversations with RB and considered him a friend. At one point, he said he was writing dissertations and giving lectures and was too busy to respond. I thought maybe he was a professor or teacher of some kind and had a long history of trial and error before becoming such a devout Orthodox Christian. It’s true I was a little put off by the incessant preaching nature of many of his posts but, with me at least, he seemed to break out of that rigid uniform at times and share a bit more. Being a huge fan of Russian literature, I was curious about the man behind the lectures/preaching. I had no idea he was only 25. A Bible in young hands can be a dangerous weapon. Some of the most challenging and life altering experiences of my life happened from age 25 to 30. As a result, I was a completely different person at 30 than I was at 25 (for the better), and again at 40, and 50. I still enjoyed and learned from some of his posts. But it becomes exasperating trying to have a rational conversation with someone who’s main thesis always falls back on:


In Orthodoxy, clairvoyance is considered a gift received not from God, but from the devil. The Church believes that people withhold this gift with the help of evil spirits—demons.

It just can’t be done. This righteous sense of believing you’re right when in reality you have no idea if you’re right because you’ve only read the books and haven’t had the real experience of “knowing” is a major short-coming in most religions. "Know thyself." Which quickly leads me back to your treatise Ernie on the difference between believing and knowing. This man gives a great example of the difference:

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For me, it boils down to: How can one religion contain the only truth, the ONLY way back to God? By default this makes all other religions demonic and of the devil, or whatever name they give their nemesis. From this standpoint, organized religion is intolerant by its very nature and is basically just another way to view the other as the enemy, another way to create division, hatred, and war. You have nations, and you have religions, pair those with some propaganda and a fine chianti and you've got a recipe for endless killing. A bit simplistic sure, but why complicate it, haha. I don’t profess to know everything, but I knew enough to not take the shot and never put on a mask, and that’s something.

And the idea that all UFO’s are demonic is just not true. Of course this is just my belief and not my knowing yet, but after reading his books, my discernment tends to agree with James Gilliland on the visitors. It’s difficult to believe that all the activity around his ranch is coming from dark forces, the black helicopters sure, but not the ships. Here is a man who for all intents and purposes appears to be coming from a place of knowing and not just believing. He’s truly been through a lot and has somehow retained a good sense of humor. I also find myself aligning with his take on the Old Testament, that Jehovah was nothing but a technologically advanced but spiritually inept entity who wielded his powers just as foolishly as I did in my initial post. I tell ya guys, I can’t wait to read the real record of human history. That said, I pass the mic.

[White Cedar]

Ive always respected every religion and religious person, while they don't offend me,etc.


I like religion, i like ritual, i like symbolism, there is still true wisdom found in some religions, a smaller part, while the rest is a man made institution that was created by the cabal/illuminati of the old times to deceive, hide, disinform and control, unfortunately.


Gnostic teachings, the pure message of Jesus, that had no alterations made by others, was a different message than modern Christianity tells, this is not means of offense, but the powers that was in that time corrupted it when they created Church, this happened with most religions.


God is for all, in all with all, he likes love, goodness and peace, respect, harmony, he don't care if a good hearted person is atheist, he loves them much as anyone else, and prefer good heart over being part of a sect group.


Jesus message is 100% similar to hermetism, non duality (advaita vedanta), buddhism. It was monist.


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I have always had a open minded to infinite possibilites, spirituality, esotericism, magic, miracles since always, had always a feeling for it.


I'm not new age but i have studied and read like many off all those stuff about manifestation, quantum stuff, attraction, control over reality etc.


By studying and making tests, playing, trying for a long many years i discovered it's a matter of faith, not having mental blocks towards it, but there are divine rules behind it, bad people can't do this stuff well, they are not allowed, power are for those that can bear it with a pure heart. Also karma is above it, we are not free to do anything actually, there are Higher forces not just guiding but moving us.


Over all those experimentations i could say many smaller experiences, but what i wanna tell is that i discovered i was able to clear Chemtrails from the sky and HAARP wave patterns in clouds in my town just by faith+visualization+intent+will, I'm doing it for 3 years and always work, every time i saw those ugly HAARP patterns i would do it , in 30 minutes the pattern would vanish and beautiful natural clouds would be left, bright clear sky. I did also with chemtrails, like commanding them to leave or just simply affirming like if i had authority over them (because those are evil and harm me, this is self defense) for them to just go away, and they would. In weeks they would appear back again, i would repeat and they are gone for long.


I also intented a clearing wave over my whole town, clearing all HAARP waves from the sky in my town, purifying toxins on atmosphere air, etc.


I think 1 or 2 months ago i saw a picture in Facebook, a guy posted a crazy photo of my town there, he was on the limit between my town and our neighbor town, right there the photo was about the sky and clouds, the sky was 100% divided between our town side with a 100% clear shinny blue sky without clouds, while the other half (really, a line, straight) over the neighbor town there was filled with dark clouds, like rainy clouds, they where divided like in half, with a perfect straight line between it, i though that was possibly my shield.


I'm a healer also and i discovered that many years back, i had my own way of doing it, have always read and studied stuff for many years, and now i just need like 5 minutes and the heals works, i have healed maybe more than 80 times the same people or different ones, physical diseases, emotional trauma/problem and so on. There is a guy that i know on facebook that had some serious degenerative disease, he was bending over and very thin, i made 2 or 3 times my healing with lot's of love, some 30 days later he's father posted photos and he was doing much better, there's a ton of healing stories i could tell, i'm not here to brag my self, anyone can do it, but i do that for the good, i love to help people, i'm happy to see them fine, i teach people to develop this by themselves by using faith+intent+belief power, etc. You just need to remove mental ideas that say to you it's not possible, may be what be, like,"oh i need high energy for that, or i need love for that, this i can, that i can't", any rules, limitation, just ignore them, trust believe and know it's being healed, the healing is happening.


Always do this for higher good, no proud or ego involved. Never manipulate people, never force other's to anything, we could do that, but the karmic backlash is heavy.


Another thing that i can do by intent or affirming is like enhance levels of hormones, neurotransmissor, etc, balancing serotonine, enhancing dopamine and things like that, intent the detoxification of specific things.


We are all one with God, we are expressions of the One, we are him showing in multiple life forms, if we intend good we may achieve powers.


But the best power is the power of unity and communium with God, pure heart, goodness, virtue, peace, joy, Love.


Spiritual powers should always be used to help others, to create a peaceful earth, for self protection etc, or people don't get it, some have some capacities and use for evil, but it's not very developed thing, it is inside magic and karma will always hit it.

[Open Minded Dude]

Can you tell that I am a once Catholic? Hahaha.
Me too, haha. Been through it all as a child, the whole gamut, the entire odysee, even had Catholic religion as a school subject all the years (yes, it is so in my country).
Then that Holy Communion I had to go through and to this very day I do not really forgive them why they made me - as a child - "eat Jesus' flesh and drink his blood" during that ceremony. Yes, I know that the 'Eucharist' is a metaphor but it is still something strange underneath it (honestly, I hardly feel a difference to satanist rituals). Maybe this would deserve a thread of its own.

I also see a lot of good in Christianity and my parents also were all their lives. My father who left us one year ago adored Mother Mary, always praying to her (Jesus not so much). Therefore I even put a beautiful Mother Mary statue on his grave.

It is important to respect all religions and beliefs, also online (here), which is why I also found RB's 'mission' to convert us all a bit repulsive. I never posted to answer him though since I am beyond these online fights for many years now. I would have been more 'combative' and not take it about 15 years ago for sure. Maybe I'm getting older and wiser. But also it is tiring and repetitive for me now to discuss stuff with very dogmatic people, and by this I do not just mean religionists, but also atheist/nihilist/materialists, or leftist vs. extreme right-wing people.
But ok, I digressed, sorry.
:focus:

[Raskolnikov]

I resonated strongly with almost everything you said White Cedar. I believe Jesus missing years involved heavy doses of both Gnostic and Buddha’s teachings, probably in the more hidden mystery schools of the time, I mean didn’t they try to kill him at birth, and three wise men arrived to oversee his safety? Probably grew up in an Essene environment.

It figures, I finally relent and turn my attention to the religion side of things and get a superpower story. Serious question: could you move out to my town, we could use a little help. Here in America, people say the spraying stopped when the government shut down, but that’s not the case at all. I’ve seen more out here lately than ever. When is somebody gonna fly a drone up there and take one of these things down? Starting to feel like I’m not wanted around here being sprayed like a cockroach.

Whenever I manage to acquire, and ground myself in, that spiritual center and pray or ask for help, I always end by thinking or saying, “for the highest good of all always.” It’s similar to the American Indian practice of first asking, “Will it be good for seven future generations” before embarking on a new project (a paraphrase from memory but something to that effect.)

Healing is such a useful tool in this day and age. I completely agree with you when you say,


You just need to remove mental ideas that say to you it's not possible, may be what be, like,"oh i need high energy for that, or i need love for that, this i can, that i can't", any rules, limitation, just ignore them, trust believe and know it's being healed, the healing is happening.

Ignore the rules and limitations - Trust, believe, and know. That’s a powerful trio my friend. And so true, we handicap ourselves with beliefs of limitation fed to us from birth, even by our parents. Tough nut to crack for sure. I’ve heard it said that there’s a golden thread of truth wound through all religions, that no one religion has the whole truth, each simply offers us a glimpse at that truth like a single piece of the pie.

Thanks so much for sharing, keep up the healing, and seriously consider moving, I miss the blue sky.

[Craig]

I am enjoying this immensely, from memory having nothing of note to post, but for the last few years I have been growing in desire to try mushrooms, but where I am I have no way of finding any, and to take them in an controlled environment.

EDIT: I was reading the post on Angels lending a hand and I realised that yes I may have had an experience after all! Many years ago my wife and I ran a franchise and she asked me to move on or get a divorce as we couldn't exactly work and live together... anyway I took on doling the deliveries for our shop and a few others up and down the coast, it was a night job where I would meet a large truck and load up my van and take off, I would need to meet him at midnight, but I was 2 hours away so I would start driving at 10pm, overall it was about 450km's a night driving visiting 6 stores and was 7 nights a week with no nights off. The van I had was very old so had no working radio so I got myself an MP3 player loaded it up with music and stand up comedians and at 100kph could barely hear it over the roar of the van and the road. First 3 months were ok but then my body started to struggle, my daytime sleeping habits were poor so I was becoming more and more exhausted.

One early morning I was on the latter part of the drive with only 2 stores left when I was passing through a small town that was yet to be bypassed by the freeway as it is now, when I guess you could say I fell asleep at the wheel, it was a very brief nap but the kicker was, do you remember the very first ghostbusters movie? Where they would in the library and experience a ghost for the very first time? When they approached it, it arched up and went all crazy ghost like? That kind of happened to me, I dreamt some ghost like apparition flew through the window and in to me and it jerked me awake in time to turn the upcoming corner otherwise it could have been a bit disastrous for me...

Until 5 mins ago I had completely forgotten this moment, I have goosebumps reliving it.

[Raskolnikov]

Awesome story Craig! I can completely relate as I had a seven day a week job for a while that took place in the middle of the night too, I'd rather not say, but the stories I could tell. Night shifts are hard enough, but seven days a week is bonkers. When I turned 26, I moved from LA to SF and frequently made the drive between the two towns to visit friends on weekends. There were two highways to choose from: Interstate 5 was the main highway and usually took 5-6 hours but was an armpit of a drive full of big agriculture crops and cows being fed Monsanto corn slop out of long troughs. If you ever make it to Coalinga you will be blessed with the most rancid smell you’ve ever smelt. Whenever we got close, we’d shut the vent off a good distance before in hopes of being spared. Sometimes it worked, but that stench was powerful.

The other was Hwy 101, a much more beautiful drive along the coastal areas, through Santa Barbara, San Luis Obispo, Paso Robles and on up to the Bay Area. But this drive took more like 10 hours and was highly patrolled. I could go close to 100 mph on the 5 back then but to go even 70 on the 101 was super risky. So after a big weekend, I started up the 101 and made it about halfway before dark struck. Body and mind were sluggish and tired from too much fun in Hollywood. Before I knew it my eyes were closed while I was driving nearly 70mph. Not sure how long they closed but suddenly I snapped to in a jolt like someone grabbed me and pulled me awake, and what do I see? I’m veering off the road to the right (we drive on the right side of the road unlike you Aussies, lol) and heading straight for a patrol car, lights flashing, that had pulled someone over. I yanked the wheel to the left and just missed grazing the vehicle by what must’ve been inches. Then I became super worried the cop would jump in his car and start chasing me for reckless driving. I watched that rearview mirror for a good few miles before letting my eyes focus solely on the road ahead again. Then I pulled over at the first rest area and fell asleep once my heart stopped racing.

As far as mushrooms go, wish I could help. I live on a farm and frequently see them in the manure but have no desire to go there anymore. Maybe when I hit 80, haha.

[White Cedar]

I resonated strongly with almost everything you said White Cedar. I believe Jesus missing years involved heavy doses of both Gnostic and Buddha’s teachings, probably in the more hidden mystery schools of the time, I mean didn’t they try to kill him at birth, and three wise men arrived to oversee his safety? Probably grew up in an Essene environment.

It figures, I finally relent and turn my attention to the religion side of things and get a superpower story. Serious question: could you move out to my town, we could use a little help. Here in America, people say the spraying stopped when the government shut down, but that’s not the case at all. I’ve seen more out here lately than ever. When is somebody gonna fly a drone up there and take one of these things down? Starting to feel like I’m not wanted around here being sprayed like a cockroach.

Whenever I manage to acquire, and ground myself in, that spiritual center and pray or ask for help, I always end by thinking or saying, “for the highest good of all always.” It’s similar to the American Indian practice of first asking, “Will it be good for seven future generations” before embarking on a new project (a paraphrase from memory but something to that effect.)

Healing is such a useful tool in this day and age. I completely agree with you when you say,


You just need to remove mental ideas that say to you it's not possible, may be what be, like,"oh i need high energy for that, or i need love for that, this i can, that i can't", any rules, limitation, just ignore them, trust believe and know it's being healed, the healing is happening.

Ignore the rules and limitations - Trust, believe, and know. That’s a powerful trio my friend. And so true, we handicap ourselves with beliefs of limitation fed to us from birth, even by our parents. Tough nut to crack for sure. I’ve heard it said that there’s a golden thread of truth wound through all religions, that no one religion has the whole truth, each simply offers us a glimpse at that truth like a single piece of the pie.

Thanks so much for sharing, keep up the healing, and seriously consider moving, I miss the blue sky.


Ty, tell me in the next days if the sky is cleared over there.

[Craig]

Awesome story Craig! I can completely relate as I had a seven day a week job for a while that took place in the middle of the night too, I'd rather not say, but the stories I could tell. Night shifts are hard enough, but seven days a week is bonkers. When I turned 26, I moved from LA to SF and frequently made the drive between the two towns to visit friends on weekends. There were two highways to choose from: Interstate 5 was the main highway and usually took 5-6 hours but was an armpit of a drive full of big agriculture crops and cows being fed Monsanto corn slop out of long troughs. If you ever make it to Coalinga you will be blessed with the most rancid smell you’ve ever smelt. Whenever we got close, we’d shut the vent off a good distance before in hopes of being spared. Sometimes it worked, but that stench was powerful.

The other was Hwy 101, a much more beautiful drive along the coastal areas, through Santa Barbara, San Luis Obispo, Paso Robles and on up to the Bay Area. But this drive took more like 10 hours and was highly patrolled. I could go close to 100 mph on the 5 back then but to go even 70 on the 101 was super risky. So after a big weekend, I started up the 101 and made it about halfway before dark struck. Body and mind were sluggish and tired from too much fun in Hollywood. Before I knew it my eyes were closed while I was driving nearly 70mph. Not sure how long they closed but suddenly I snapped to in a jolt like someone grabbed me and pulled me awake, and what do I see? I’m veering off the road to the right (we drive on the right side of the road unlike you Aussies, lol) and heading straight for a patrol car, lights flashing, that had pulled someone over. I yanked the wheel to the left and just missed grazing the vehicle by what must’ve been inches. Then I became super worried the cop would jump in his car and start chasing me for reckless driving. I watched that rearview mirror for a good few miles before letting my eyes focus solely on the road ahead again. Then I pulled over at the first rest area and fell asleep once my heart stopped racing.

As far as mushrooms go, wish I could help. I live on a farm and frequently see them in the manure but have no desire to go there anymore. Maybe when I hit 80, haha.

WOW now that's a story!

[Raskolnikov]

Ty, tell me in the next days if the sky is cleared over there.

We've had nothing but rain clouds the last couple days, but the little blue sky I did see was clear. I'm ok with real clouds, the land needs the water. Says mostly cloudy tomorrow too, but I'll be looking. So far it's working, I haven't seen any trails, thanks WC!

[Raskolnikov]

Since speaking of God can take you literally anywhere, thought I might have a little fun in responding to this sentence put forth by Craig:


I am enjoying this immensely, from memory having nothing of note to post, but for the last few years I have been growing in desire to try mushrooms, but where I am I have no way of finding any, and to take them in an controlled environment.

My favorite controlled environment was always an outdoor concert filled with quality music. Mushrooms are funny, they grow in dark confines and yet to be indoors after taking them is almost impossible, you feel like you’re being suffocated. I always gravitated towards nature, being under the stars, and if there was good music and joyful people in such an environment all the better.

Music’s a mystery, a beautiful meeting of the outer and inner worlds, an ethereal explosion of energy striking matter. But from where does it come and what is it trying to impart? There’s a hidden power in music, a hidden language. We all speak it, we all feel it. That first night I took mushrooms was life-altering. Again, a Grateful Dead show. I know, cut me some slack, we were in high school and I didn’t know a thing about ‘em, but someone’s older brother said, “You gotta go!” So we went. Irvine Meadows (rest in peace), California, 1986, 16 years old. I remember sitting with my friends on the grassy hill way up towards the top behind the seated sections. The five of us, tired from endless walking, sat on the grass and watched the show in silence. After a couple songs, I felt compelled to stand up and just start walking without telling a soul. It was now dark so no one noticed. Off I went. I ran in to all kinds of people, laughed with some, danced with others, got sucked into groups for what felt like hours, watched the strange and unusual things people were up to, playing with fire and creating inspiring works of art, jewelry, and apparel. It felt like a real gathering of the tribe. Sure they were hippies, but after growing up in the limiting confines and concrete jungle of southern California, the beach our only escape, it was a refreshing change in perspective from the incessant schedules, codes and rules imposed upon an impressionable youth attempting to tread lightly through the minefield of acne, peer pressure, and screaming hormones.

Let’s be clear, everyone at a Dead show was on something. In fact, many appeared to have been on something for the last two decades since the first Dead show in the mid-sixties, some still wearing the same clothes. We’ll call them eclectic. But when a large group of people gather and entrain their minds in unison… Some time ago, I was trying to describe that moment in music when everything magically comes together and some kid just looked at me deadpan and said, “Droppin’ the beat.” My mind recoiled at the simplicity of such a statement. “It’s so much more than that!” my mind screamed. Of course, he was referring to the DJ side of the spectrum and I’d always been more rock’n’roll. Yes, I learned there were some DJ’s who could “drop the beat,” and it could be very impressive on occasion, but I was referring to that moment when a group of musicians achieve true coherence, when they not only achieve it but are able to sustain and even increase that coherence for long drawn out periods of time.

In that sort of “controlled environment,” if you can call rampant public drug abuse a controlled environment!, it almost felt like the audience was controlling the musicians, and vice versa of course. It was a combined effort, everyone involved. Which came first, energy or matter? If energy, then everything is ultimately connected and those boundaries and limitations can be cast aside and the possibilities abound. It was uncanny, I could sense the others around me beginning to feel the music, so much so that some began looking around and suspiciously smiling at one another as if they had a secret, as if sensing the approaching magic, everyone mysteriously connected and sensing it together. And I discovered my thoughts had a direct effect upon the music, the more positive and inspired my thoughts, the more powerful and elevated reached the heights of the music. There were brief moments when I felt I was controlling the music, and because it was such a pleasant experience simultaneously being experienced by everyone around me, the music just got better and better and continued to reach new heights. Looking back, I realize that though these people were basically hippies and gypsies, they were just good honest people tired of the rat race and continuing the search for magic, for what is life without magic? And they’d found it, a magic that sustained them, and so they followed it all over the country. I felt what brought them there a few times that night. It was truly magical, from the music to the bonafide time warp***

***so after all that, I begin the long trek back to the top of the grassy knoll wondering if my friends were still there. I’d lived a lifetime in that walk. My mind blown, boundaries broken, doors blown clean off. I felt connected with everything around me and began seeing this mysterious world in a brand new light. I felt grateful(!) to have had the veil lifted a bit, if only briefly. I made out my friends’ figures silhouetted in the distant concert lights and smiled. I silently slid into the exact same spot and relaxed, reclining and silently humming along with the music. A minute later one of my friends turned to me and asked, “Where’d you go?” I smiled and said, “Went for a walk.”

Btw, returning to the realm of superpowers, has it struck anyone else odd that so many children’s cartoons were and are centered around superpowers? That’s all I saw growing up, from Popeye to Superchicken, one eating healthy, the other with a serious drunk driving problem, in a flying chicken egg no less. But it all makes me recall this video from Daft Punk. Anyone else think this is still occurring today and has been the goal of these ghouls for some time?

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This is more my style of music and a nice treatise on the fine line between being a musician and a member of the audience, on how one influences and inspires the other:

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And for anyone who needs to get a real feel of the Grateful Dead audience experience, these guys from Australia give a good example:

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[gord]

Raskolnikov, that is really an excellent description of the general atmosphere of a Dead show.

"They're a band beyond description", so "if you get confused, listen to the music play" "while the music plays the band"

1st show was Nov. 1977. I had just turned 15.

[Raskolnikov]

Raskolnikov, that is really an excellent description of the general atmosphere of a Dead show.

"They're a band beyond description", so "if you get confused, listen to the music play" "while the music plays the band"

1st show was Nov. 1977. I had just turned 15.

Thanks gord, I knew someone out there could relate. Figures it'd be a Deadhead! I'd never written that story down but it's been emblazoned on my mind. They really were a cult you know? We got duped. They drugged us and hypnotized us with their music in a CIA acid test and painted fanciful pictures of rolling green hills and mini-skirts in 50's Chevy's, and I, for one, chump that I am, fell for it. Such a sucker it's a wonder I didn't take the shot for a free burger and fries...

[kudzy]

Raskolnikov, that is really an excellent description of the general atmosphere of a Dead show.

"They're a band beyond description", so "if you get confused, listen to the music play" "while the music plays the band"

1st show was Nov. 1977. I had just turned 15.

Thanks gord, I knew someone out there could relate. Figures it'd be a Deadhead! I'd never written that story down but it's been emblazoned on my mind. They really were a cult you know? We got duped. They drugged us and hypnotized us with their music in a CIA acid test and painted fanciful pictures of rolling green hills and mini-skirts in 50's Chevy's, and I, for one, chump that I am, fell for it. Such a sucker it's a wonder I didn't take the shot for a free burger and fries...

Yup, they got me too. First show 1987, freshmen in college, Hartford, CT. It sure was fun though. I hadn’t been that excited since I was a kid waiting for Santa Claus. I liken it to finer and finer sieves, just when you think you’ve made it through one there’s a finer grade of sieve below that to catch you. Ah, fun fun. Best wishes y’all.

[Raskolnikov]

Raskolnikov, that is really an excellent description of the general atmosphere of a Dead show.

"They're a band beyond description", so "if you get confused, listen to the music play" "while the music plays the band"

1st show was Nov. 1977. I had just turned 15.

Thanks gord, I knew someone out there could relate. Figures it'd be a Deadhead! I'd never written that story down but it's been emblazoned on my mind. They really were a cult you know? We got duped. They drugged us and hypnotized us with their music in a CIA acid test and painted fanciful pictures of rolling green hills and mini-skirts in 50's Chevy's, and I, for one, chump that I am, fell for it. Such a sucker it's a wonder I didn't take the shot for a free burger and fries...

Yup, they got me too. First show 1987, freshmen in college, Hartford, CT. It sure was fun though. I hadn’t been that excited since I was a kid waiting for Santa Claus. I liken it to finer and finer sieves, just when you think you’ve made it through one there’s a finer grade of sieve below that to catch you. Ah, fun fun. Best wishes y’all.

"Et tu kudzy?" Thanks brother. It was a meeting of the minds, maybe not always the brightest minds, lol, but true individuals nonetheless! Like Kerouac's On The Road put to music.

[Raskolnikov]

What I do not enjoy is when people rush in to "rain on our parades."
No one asked for opinions on this thread, but for personal experiences shared.
(if you can't participate in the fun, better to stay home)
People that do this are also known as "Debbie Downers"

Thanks Sue, now I gotta be Debbie Downer. The sun cleared for a while yesterday and the spray was hot and heavy. Thanks for trying White Cedar. I do fully believe we have that capability, wonder if it works without mushrooms:chuckle:

HiC3kuSoftY


Ty, tell me in the next days if the sky is cleared over there.

[Raskolnikov]

I just wanted to thank each and everyone one of you who's responded. I really had no idea if anyone would even be interested in such a topic. Bill, I honestly don't know how you do it, but I thank you for always somehow being the first one to be supportive. You haven't gone AI on us already have you? You still sleep right?

I hope somebody out there has an alternate version of the internet set up and ready to go because if this thing goes digital credit score we're in serious trouble. Sometimes I wonder exactly what happened in that distant past life to lead me here where suddenly nothing makes sense. This Saturday alone could be a bloodbath "brought to you by Pfizer!" There are times I feel closer to God than ever and then I stub my pinkie toe on a chair leg. The opposites are so extreme right now, one minute I'm kissing my wife and in love with the world and the next a pipe is bursting and the gains we made disappear in an instant and then some, that stuff can test you.

These days I try to find something to be thankful for each and every day, something that connects me with that higher power I know is there but don't always feel. I know many of you out there have trouble with the word God so call it what you will, but most of us have felt that power and that connection somehow at some point in our lives. Gratitude is a powerful tool. It can be hard to come by in such a chaotic world, but it yields real results once you truly feel it, once you truly mean it. It's one thing to be informed, but what is going on today?

Thought I had a point but now it's gone and I don't have it in me to pursue it further. Tap into your superpowers everyone, soon we may need them to communicate...

[Harmony]

I hope it is ok to add this video by Gregg Braden talking about states of consciousness that may add to this thread an aspect of how we might experience different perspectives by the shift of frequencies we are able create within our brain and bodies.. :stars:
t9ecsGQLuto
This Brain State Ends the Human Game of Limits | Gregg Braden

[Raskolnikov]

I hope it is ok to add this video by Gregg Braden talking about states of consciousness that may add to this thread an aspect of how we might experience different perspectives by the shift of frequencies we are able create within our brain and bodies.. :stars:
t9ecsGQLuto
This Brain State Ends the Human Game of Limits | Gregg Braden

Thanks Harmony, for pulling the thread back from the Dead - cue the Debbie Downer horn, wah-wah. I've thoroughly enjoyed the work of both Bruce Lipton and Gregg Braden yet haven't listened to them for some time. Thanks for the reminder. It's good to see some real science breaking through. Such studies are very inspiring and begin to explain some of the things I experienced. I'm not sure how to explain it, but I feel it was a sort of internal joyful coherence that allowed me to tap into the higher brainwave states. It almost felt like time stopped or slowed down and I slipped into another dimension. It's good to see Bruce Lipton and Greg Braden bringing the studies to light and showing the science behind it. I sense a real game changer once we learn this science again.

Here's Lipton and Braden discussing what it means to be pure human, and today's threats to that purity:

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[Harmony]

Thanks for the video above Raskolnikov. I really do think there is so much about our own selves that we don't really understand fully.

I woke early this morning and started meditating on the Gregg Braden video I posted above. (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?130516-When-God-lends-a-hand&p=1690211&viewfull=1#post1690211) After a short while my inner eye opened and I could see clearly mens legs with rough kind of shoes whom I felt were holy men and they were walking on the edge of a bank or cliff topped at the edge with black stone walls that were used as a path to walk upon with very angular turns (90degrees). Then I could see quite a large kind of bee coming out of a flower near a stone warm from the sun, it then burrowed into the sand with a vibratory sound. Then the people were at a flat topped natural stone with a large bottle of what I saw as milk. One bottle had water in it and it was being topped up with the milk.

Somehow in the meditation, I "knew" the bee was the masculine and the milk the nourishment or female. My take on that, so far, is the feminine fluid part of the pure brain and the right vibration, the masculine creates the frequency of the realities or states of a reality or portal? like the monks that Gregg Braden spoke about in the video.

These views appeared so clear, with grains of sand visible, the warm sun, the flower petals the reverance of the people, the small plants and dryish earth suggested more a mediteranean kind of climate. I don't remember the faces as it was what was happening that seemed important. I just mention it as it was about consciousness. Perhaps the right angles of the path were also important as well. I love it when I ask a question and the picture comes quite quickly with awareness yet no expectatons:stars: There have been people who talk about milk and honey also that are said to come from your glands in your brain area, the pineal and the pituitary being involved.

[Raskolnikov]

I was trying to remember where I'd read about the 90 degree turn and it was Drunvalo Melchizedek's Flower of Life books, and I found this from a 2013 FB announcement:

Drunvalo Melchizedek has come out after 25 years of silence with the last '90 degree turn' meditation: How to enter into the fourth dimension... Exciting!
Now available for all school of remembering students who have attended the awakening the Illuminated Heart workshop!

There's a link in this space to a video that no longer works.

Previously known as “The 18th breath”. “The last 90 degree turn” is the final step to ascension taught by Drunvalo Melchizedek. This critical and important meditation is the follow-up to the powerful Awakening the Illuminated Heart classes offered all over the world by Certified School of Remembering Teachers.
Drunvalo’s guided meditation for ascension will be released to students who register with the new system after June 1st, 2013 at School of Remembering. For students who have taken the ATIH class in the past, registering with the new School website on June 1st will unlock this amazing new video.
Drunvalo’s School of Remembering is where all registered students of his work can find a supportive community of trained teachers and fellow students. (Another dead link here.)

Pretty exciting Harmony, maybe you'll be one who helps bring forth this knowledge again. Loved your meditation, thanks for sharing. The real science is on it's way back. I actually remember reading a book that called it "God Science." Watch out everyone, that term is going to make the tantruming clown world people's heads explode!

[Ernie Nemeth]

I believe that God Science is the only science worthy of the "science" moniker, since it is the only one that cannot be further reduced. The rest are approximations based on incomplete data and are always reducible.


What we call forces, which we do not understand except as an unfolding due to ambient gradations, are energies and dimensions controlled by gods whose job it is to manifest reality. They may be "scientists" or "engineers" of a higher class of intelligence, but to us they might as well be gods.

At one point, humans described the earth being held up by a giant turtle from underneath. When asked what held up the turtle, another turtle was the reply. When asked what is below the last turtle, the answer was ambiguous:
"It's turtles all the way down."

Human sciences have never been able to invent a better explanation, all the modern sophisticated nomenclature, theories, philosophies they employ notwithstanding.
Instead of turtles we now say we have:
"an ever-accelerating expansion of the space/time continuum".

Same idea, different words.


The idea of God has never changed - only the number of them and the capitalization, as our relationship to God has become personal.

[Raskolnikov]

The idea of God has never changed - only the number of them and the capitalization, as our relationship to God has become personal.

Thank you Ernie, superb, all of it, right down to the last fractal turtle tail!

Since this thread has been hyper-focused on energy and music, I thought we might take a brief musical interlude. This one goes out to you Russian Bear. I salute your Russian spirit, both you and your great country. I consider you all my brothers, my comrades, so please don't be offended or feel hurt by anything that happened here. We all approach God in our own personal way, "I'm the one who's going to have to die when it's time for me to die." It's an internal journey, my friend, and yet here we are. We shall meet again...

8RrS7P6UTKA

[Raskolnikov]

There’s another aspect of this we could get into if anyone’s game. All the talk of Drunvalo reminded me of something he had to overcome in his early days after college so I revisited the first volume of The Ancient Secret of the Flower of Life books, found here, https://avalonlibrary.net/ebooks/Drunvalo%20Melchizedek%20-%20The%20Ancient%20Secret%20of%20the%20Flower%20of%20Life.pdf, and was immediately struck by this passage that gives further credence to our theory of God Science,

"I majored in physics and minored in mathematics until I was just about to receive my diploma. I needed only one more quarter to graduate. I decided I didn’t want the degree, because I had discovered something about physicists that turned me off to the idea of becoming involved in a science that I believed was no science at all. This is all changing now. This in itself could be a book, but the why of it is related to the same thing I said about archaeologists. Physicists, just like archaeologists, will turn their heads away from the truth if it means too much of a change too fast. Perhaps the real truth is that this is human nature. So I switched to the other side of my brain and started majoring in fine arts. My counselors thought I was nuts. “You’re going to give up a physics degree?” they asked. But I didn’t need it, didn’t want it. Then to graduate I had to go for two more years majoring in fine arts and art history.

Changing majors makes sense now, because when you study the ancient writings, you find out that the ancients perceived art, science and religion as interwoven, interconnected. So the programming I was putting myself through was appropriate for what I’m doing now."

This next one gives is a nice summary of the world’s religions. Thought it should be included since this thread stumbled upon these blocks toward the beginning,

"All the world’s religions are speaking of the same Reality. They have different words, different concepts and ideas, but there’s really only one Reality, and there’s only one Spirit moving through all life. There might be different techniques to get to different states of consciousness, but there’s only what is real, and when you’re there you know it. Whatever you want to call it—you can give it different names—it’s all the same thing."

But I found these two paragraphs leading up to his meeting with Thoth particularly eye-opening, especially concerning the purpose of alchemy and turning mercury into gold,

"At one point the angels led me to a Canadian man who was an alchemist and who, amongst other things, was actually turning mercury into gold (though it can also be done from lead, which is more difficult). I studied alchemy for two years with him and watched this process with my own eyes. He had a sphere of glass about 18" in diameter filled with a liquid, and little bubbles of mercury would rise into it. They would go through a series of fluorescent colors and changes, rise to the top, turn into little balls of solid gold, then sink down to the bottom. Then he would collect all these little balls of gold to use for his spiritual work. He owned an ordinary-looking little house in Burnaby, British Columbia, on an ordinary-looking street. If you drove down the street, his house would look like any of the others. But under his house was a hidden laboratory. He had taken the millions of dollars in gold and dug straight down, building a huge complex filled with everything from electron balances to you-name-it so that he could further his work. He didn’t care about money at all. And of course the purpose in alchemy is not to make gold or money, but to understand the process of how mercury or lead changes into gold.

It’s the process that’s important. Because the process of going from mercury to gold is identical to the process that a human follows going from this level of consciousness into Christ consciousness; there is an exact correlation. As a matter of fact, if you were to study all of alchemy, you would have to study every single chemical reaction in existence, because every reaction has a corresponding experiential aspect to something in life. It’s the old “as above, so below” saying. (By the way, Thoth is the man who originally spoke those words when he was known as Hermes in Greece.)"

Maybe that’s why they’re injecting us with so much mercury, they just want us to reach Christ consciousness faster. They’re helping us. See, they really do have our best interests at heart.

But the alchemical process, especially in relation to human evolution, is powerful. If you think about it, in that analogy our current state of consciousness is the volatile and dangerous mercury which must be alchemically changed into the gold of Christ consciousness. Like the pressure and time it takes to turn coal into diamond.

Yet, even after all that, the God lends a hand angle becomes even more profound when he relates how he had to figure out how to live on nothing, to put aside all attempts at making money and really begin living with trust that God has everything under control, including your own survival and well-being. For me, that's a powerful message. He said it was frightening at first, but ultimately it worked out. Easy to say for someone who’s in contact with Angels and has Thoth on speed dial. But more and more I’m beginning to sense the wisdom in this approach to life, in getting back to nature and closer to your maker, start nurturing ourselves on that milk and honey you alluded to Harmony. I mean, what’s the worst that could happen right - you meet your maker.

So was wondering if there was anyone out there who may have achieved such heights of evolution that they no longer need money and it’s now a thing of the past. It’s a tall order in this day and age. Pressure from all directions and prices only going up, and yet our whole system is rigged to have us putting our faith in promissory notes promising nothing more than further future debt. But I’ll climb down off my high horse, ran out of coins anyway…

[White Cedar]

There’s another aspect of this we could get into if anyone’s game. All the talk of Drunvalo reminded me of something he had to overcome in his early days after college so I revisited the first volume of The Ancient Secret of the Flower of Life books, found here, https://avalonlibrary.net/ebooks/Drunvalo%20Melchizedek%20-%20The%20Ancient%20Secret%20of%20the%20Flower%20of%20Life.pdf, and was immediately struck by this passage that gives further credence to our theory of God Science,

"I majored in physics and minored in mathematics until I was just about to receive my diploma. I needed only one more quarter to graduate. I decided I didn’t want the degree, because I had discovered something about physicists that turned me off to the idea of becoming involved in a science that I believed was no science at all. This is all changing now. This in itself could be a book, but the why of it is related to the same thing I said about archaeologists. Physicists, just like archaeologists, will turn their heads away from the truth if it means too much of a change too fast. Perhaps the real truth is that this is human nature. So I switched to the other side of my brain and started majoring in fine arts. My counselors thought I was nuts. “You’re going to give up a physics degree?” they asked. But I didn’t need it, didn’t want it. Then to graduate I had to go for two more years majoring in fine arts and art history.

Changing majors makes sense now, because when you study the ancient writings, you find out that the ancients perceived art, science and religion as interwoven, interconnected. So the programming I was putting myself through was appropriate for what I’m doing now."

This next one gives is a nice summary of the world’s religions. Thought it should be included since this thread stumbled upon these blocks toward the beginning,

"All the world’s religions are speaking of the same Reality. They have different words, different concepts and ideas, but there’s really only one Reality, and there’s only one Spirit moving through all life. There might be different techniques to get to different states of consciousness, but there’s only what is real, and when you’re there you know it. Whatever you want to call it—you can give it different names—it’s all the same thing."

But I found these two paragraphs leading up to his meeting with Thoth particularly eye-opening, especially concerning the purpose of alchemy and turning mercury into gold,

"At one point the angels led me to a Canadian man who was an alchemist and who, amongst other things, was actually turning mercury into gold (though it can also be done from lead, which is more difficult). I studied alchemy for two years with him and watched this process with my own eyes. He had a sphere of glass about 18" in diameter filled with a liquid, and little bubbles of mercury would rise into it. They would go through a series of fluorescent colors and changes, rise to the top, turn into little balls of solid gold, then sink down to the bottom. Then he would collect all these little balls of gold to use for his spiritual work. He owned an ordinary-looking little house in Burnaby, British Columbia, on an ordinary-looking street. If you drove down the street, his house would look like any of the others. But under his house was a hidden laboratory. He had taken the millions of dollars in gold and dug straight down, building a huge complex filled with everything from electron balances to you-name-it so that he could further his work. He didn’t care about money at all. And of course the purpose in alchemy is not to make gold or money, but to understand the process of how mercury or lead changes into gold.

It’s the process that’s important. Because the process of going from mercury to gold is identical to the process that a human follows going from this level of consciousness into Christ consciousness; there is an exact correlation. As a matter of fact, if you were to study all of alchemy, you would have to study every single chemical reaction in existence, because every reaction has a corresponding experiential aspect to something in life. It’s the old “as above, so below” saying. (By the way, Thoth is the man who originally spoke those words when he was known as Hermes in Greece.)"

Maybe that’s why they’re injecting us with so much mercury, they just want us to reach Christ consciousness faster. They’re helping us. See, they really do have our best interests at heart.

But the alchemical process, especially in relation to human evolution, is powerful. If you think about it, in that analogy our current state of consciousness is the volatile and dangerous mercury which must be alchemically changed into the gold of Christ consciousness. Like the pressure and time it takes to turn coal into diamond.

Yet, even after all that, the God lends a hand angle becomes even more profound when he relates how he had to figure out how to live on nothing, to put aside all attempts at making money and really begin living with trust that God has everything under control, including your own survival and well-being. For me, that's a powerful message. He said it was frightening at first, but ultimately it worked out. Easy to say for someone who’s in contact with Angels and has Thoth on speed dial. But more and more I’m beginning to sense the wisdom in this approach to life, in getting back to nature and closer to your maker, start nurturing ourselves on that milk and honey you alluded to Harmony. I mean, what’s the worst that could happen right - you meet your maker.

So was wondering if there was anyone out there who may have achieved such heights of evolution that they no longer need money and it’s now a thing of the past. It’s a tall order in this day and age. Pressure from all directions and prices only going up, and yet our whole system is rigged to have us putting our faith in promissory notes promising nothing more than further future debt. But I’ll climb down off my high horse, ran out of coins anyway…


Well, there is nothing wrong with money it self, or using trade systems, the problem is the illuminati group messing and distorting the economical system.


The thing with spirituality and money is people that chase it for status, power, control, or thinking they will find happiness and contentament from money power, poeple that believe that buying and consuming keep happiness stable.


The problem is not money it self and using it. You need it to buy food and have a home, the person that made your food or grew it, deserve money so him can have he's home car and cloths, the one that build houses all day, deserve money to buy food, house, etc.
It's an energetic trade system, without it everyone should learn and build their house, do their cloths, and grow their foods, plus craft they kitchen utensils and gather gas or stove to make the fire.


It gives freedom because of that, it's part of manifestation nature, life here could go much farther without it, as everything requires energy expense, action and movement in order to happen.


So sages and illumined spirits, real ones have no problem with job or money, but don't have urges for power, control, domination, consumerism, luxury and so on.


Having a job is divine or you gotta become a beggar asking food on the streets, everyday, to someone that worked to have money and buy the food...

[Harmony]

Raskolnikov, I find what you have written to be quite interesting and important, something many think of everyday. I hope I can respond or add to soon, as it takes time to reply thoughtfully.:stars:

[Harmony]

I am enjoying reading your exploration of a larger understanding of what I refer to as Source or Consciousness, the whole or the all and exploring how we fit into this “whole”. Thank you for your reference to Drunvalo Melchizedek’s ‘90 degree turn meditation’ in post#42 (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?130516-When-God-lends-a-hand&p=1690336&viewfull=1#post1690336), that might relate to the vision I saw recently. That’s really interesting and I had a look on the net and couldn’t find too much about it anymore. I did find the following recent short video (8:25) where he speaks to Viola Rose about his new book. In the 4th book he mentions it is about consciousness and the glands in the body.


J3zlRQ85Ggw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3zlRQ85Ggw)
Drunvalo Melchizedek (2025) a chat about his new book

Rasolnikov wrote:

“Yet, even after all that, the God lends a hand angle becomes even more profound when he relates how he had to figure out how to live on nothing, to put aside all attempts at making money and really begin living with trust that God has everything under control, including your own survival and well-being. For me, that's a powerful message. He said it was frightening at first, but ultimately it worked out. Easy to say for someone who’s in contact with Angels and has Thoth on speed dial. But more and more I’m beginning to sense the wisdom in this approach to life, in getting back to nature and closer to your maker, start nurturing ourselves on that milk and honey you alluded to Harmony. I mean, what’s the worst that could happen right - you meet your maker.”
It seems we must have that information stored in our DNA libraries. When I think about being able to live without food as breatharian’s seem to be able to, a switch over to another mode of receiving energy from the sun must already exist within us.
I have found when I am in an unknown tricky situation, without an answer from the left brain that is rational and looking for outside answers, it is possible to switch to the heart that can reach into something that is outside our “normal perceived” reality. It is outside time and space and if you ask through the heart with love and surrender to an answer that will be to the very best solution for the well being of all, something happens if we let it. Sometimes an event outside what we might have tried to engineer. It seems like God consciousness, through the purity of heart, Christ consciousness, can lend a hand when we ask or are open to that frequency that is already there if we tune into it.

[Raskolnikov]

Reading both responses, I get the feeling of a slight tug-of-war taking place between the left and the right brains, the left reminding us that money is just a tool of barter or trade, a representation of energy that must be exchanged for goods, while the right yearns for more, somewhere intuiting that a simpler yet more fulfilling and rewarding way of life has existed before so can exist again.

I experienced that exact same switch from the left to right brain that Drunvalo spoke of when he dropped the physics degree with one month remaining to pursue a degree in fine arts which would take two more years. He said he “switched to the other side of (the) brain,” in essence, from the left to the right. He did this because he saw the “short-comings” in the fields of natural science, at least in the academic world, how it wouldn’t allow great leaps and bounds in the pursuit of truth, “only so far” says the logical left brain.

My own experience was a bit less voluntary and occurred immediately after that first mushroom experience. Overnight, I went from acing math classes without studying to “wtf am I looking at?” To be fair, I was in pre-calculus at the time and it never made much sense to me, but I was passing. After that experience, I was cooked. My brain would have none of it. It was like the connection between hemispheres had been severed. Now I suddenly found myself devouring literature, art, philosophy, while being especially drawn to music. At the time it was very odd and even frightening. I began surveying the world with new eyes, more contemplative and aware, but also confused by what it all meant and where it would ultimately lead because I intuitively understood one doesn’t make money or gain any kind of security in the fields of art, barring connections to Epstein or Podesta of course. But I felt I’d lost a valuable superpower, the power of regurgitation, of easily jumping through hoops and telling the teachers what they wanted to hear, and in high school that’s a valuable superpower indeed. Gone in an instant.

So while I understand, and even agree with, your point of view, White Cedar, I also found these words of interest:


It's an energetic trade system, without it everyone should learn and build their house, do their cloths, and grow their foods, plus craft they kitchen utensils and gather gas or stove to make the fire.

It gives freedom because of that, it's part of manifestation nature, life here could go much farther without it, as everything requires energy expense, action and movement in order to happen.

Yes, it’s an energetic trade system. We trade our energy to satisfy our needs, and our desires, enter the seven sins. “Life here could go much farther without it.” Wholeheartedly agree. It’s fun to note that when Drunvalo finally did achieve success in “living on nothing” four miles from the nearest road in the middle of nowhere that he began to really enjoy life again,

"I began to live my life exactly like I had always wanted to live. I had always wanted to see if I could live on nothing, so I gave it a try. It was a little scary at first, but it got easier as time went on, and pretty soon I became adept at natural living. I lived a wonderful and full life on basically no money. After a while I realized, Hey, this is a lot easier than holding a job in a city! I had to work hard for only about three hours a day, then I had the rest of the day off. It was great. I could play music and run around and have a good old time. And that’s exactly what I did. I had fun. I played music about ten hours a day, with lots of friends who came from miles around. Our place had gained quite a reputation by then. We just had fun. In doing this, which is very important to my understanding now, I discovered something about myself. It was from this—”returning to my inner child” is how I phrase it these days—that my inner child was released, and in that releasing, something happened to me that was the catalyst that led into my life as it is today."

I postulate that this current system of barter has been specifically set up and rigged to strip us of our energy. Think of a casino, how much taken vs. given back, odds stacked steeply against the gambler. Energy being siphoned away. I could go on about over-unity devices, stolen and destroyed scrolls, texts, and artifacts, even the fiat monetary system itself but I’d be preaching to the choir. Point being, it’s all energy, we’re all energy, so why should we have to become beggars in the street to beg for enough energy to survive? Perhaps it's as simple as overcoming those urges for power, control, and domination you mentioned. I do believe that’s a very important part to all this, tempering and taming all that volatile mercury in our energy fields of consciousness, the philosopher’s stone right?

Which brings us back to Harmony’s milk and honey. I enjoyed your thoughtful response, take all the time you need.


I am enjoying reading your exploration of a larger understanding of what I refer to as Source or Consciousness, the whole or the all and exploring how we fit into this “whole”.

That’s well put, and while I’m still not sure how we fit into it, I feel it’s the only worthwhile, perhaps most valuable and important, pursuit in life. The brainwave states in your first video are truly fascinating and offer new glimpses into what could be a whole new state of being, a new Way, maybe just a return to the old Way. It certainly suggests the possibility that what we think of as reality and our place within that reality is maybe not so set in stone, not quite as material as we once believed, or have been led to believe. Thank you for sharing your thoughts. I will take some time to ruminate upon them as well, see what treasures lie within…

[Raskolnikov]

It seems we must have that information stored in our DNA libraries. When I think about being able to live without food as breatharian’s seem to be able to, a switch over to another mode of receiving energy from the sun must already exist within us.[/INDENT][INDENT]I have found when I am in an unknown tricky situation, without an answer from the left brain that is rational and looking for outside answers, it is possible to switch to the heart that can reach into something that is outside our “normal perceived” reality. It is outside time and space and if you ask through the heart with love and surrender to an answer that will be to the very best solution for the well being of all, something happens if we let it. Sometimes an event outside what we might have tried to engineer. It seems like God consciousness, through the purity of heart, Christ consciousness, can lend a hand when we ask or are open to that frequency that is already there if we tune into it.

The subject of breatharianism (also called inedia apparently) has been on my mind since I first heard of it. It seems like the next logical step in human evolution. If you think about it, it’s happening right now as we change our diets away from the heavy, nutritionally void, chemical laden foods to the lighter, more nutrient dense fare that provides mountains more nourishment in a much smaller package. The body sustained on less and less as we figure out what sustains it and how we’ve neglected and even poisoned it. These days I find myself eating one to two meals a day and rarely feeling hungry. Sure would save some money though if I could figure out that last 90 degree turn:dancing:

Thanks for sharing the video Harmony. Glad to see he’s coming out with a couple new books. I’ve definitely been witness to the whiter sun the last few years. Where I live it gets so hot in the summer that this new light feels as if there’s a giant child in the sky holding a magnifying glass and training it upon me until I burst into flames. It feels hot and irritating instead of warm and nourishing. Thought maybe they replaced it with a flourescent or led bulb like everything else. Glad to hear he thinks this new light is an improvement because I’ve been having serious trouble reaching that same conclusion.

I like the point you made about the left brain looking for outside answers. That really speaks volumes. The left looking outside for answers while the right looking inside, tapping into the heart for answers. That sounds right to me. That’s where the God consciousness, the Christ consciousness, enters, changing “normal perceived reality” into something just a little bit different, just enough to awaken something within us that needed to be awakened. Asking through the heart with love and surrender, with the highest intent, wise words Harmony, and yet so difficult to maintain this state in the world today.

When speaking of consciousness and it’s source, I always end up thinking of the study of plants hooked up to lie detector machines and threatened with fire, through thought alone, not verbally or physically in any way, and the plants screaming. All you vegans and vegetarians who think you’re living a righteous life of not killing living beings - sorry to disappoint. And this happened exactly the same for plants about to be eaten. What the study ultimately discovered was that the only thing that would calm them down was saying a prayer and thanking the plants before eating them. I think you could call that scientific proof for prayer. But it alludes to so much more, because if plants can be threatened by our thoughts then it would appear we’re somehow mysteriously connected to everything around us, the thought came from inside oneself and effected a distant object outside oneself, for all intents and purposes, a separate object. Idk, simply fascinating study. It was in Wilcock’s Source Field Investigations. So much we don’t know, and as this information slowly leaks back in after a lifetime of being deluded to think otherwise, it is truly mind-boggling indeed.

“My people perish for lack of knowledge.” And yet they insist, “Ignorance is bliss…”

[Bill Ryan]

It seems we must have that information stored in our DNA libraries. When I think about being able to live without food as breatharian’s seem to be able to, a switch over to another mode of receiving energy from the sun must already exist within us.[/INDENT][INDENT]I have found when I am in an unknown tricky situation, without an answer from the left brain that is rational and looking for outside answers, it is possible to switch to the heart that can reach into something that is outside our “normal perceived” reality. It is outside time and space and if you ask through the heart with love and surrender to an answer that will be to the very best solution for the well being of all, something happens if we let it. Sometimes an event outside what we might have tried to engineer. It seems like God consciousness, through the purity of heart, Christ consciousness, can lend a hand when we ask or are open to that frequency that is already there if we tune into it.

The subject of breatharianism (also called inedia apparently) has been on my mind since I first heard of it.Off-topic on this thread (I think! :)) but for anyone who might not know, we have two most detailed and fascinating threads about Breatharianism, featuring Avalon members who personally are or have been adepts.


Breatharianism, and living on Prana: a how-to guide (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?34696-Breatharianism-and-living-on-Prana-a-how-to-guide)



The Breatharian Path - The Science, my own Journey, and the Ramifications for any Human
(https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?105803-The-Breatharian-Path-The-Science-my-own-Journey-and-the-Ramifications-for-any-Human)
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[Raskolnikov]

This one could, and quite possibly should, go into one of the AI threads but since it broadens its scope of the AI discussion, bringing in divinity and what it means to be human, I thought it might fit better here. Thanks again to Harmony for the reminder of Gregg Braden and his great work. So much good information in this one I had to print up some highlights. It paints a more scientific picture of what I may have been experiencing to some small degree.

“There was a study that just came out from the University of Toronto in February, 2025, this year showing that the chronic use of Artificial Intelligence for creative endeavors, so these are artists who are no longer imagining to create their art, they’re depending upon ChatGpt, for example; or writers, creative writers, who are no longer doing their own creative writing, they’re depending on ChatGpt to put the sentences and the paragraphs together; musicians… What the study shows, two things: 1) Humans begin to lose, it’s not their creativity, it’s their ability to even create. They begin to lose their ability to imagine and create because the AI is doing it for them if they’re using it chronically, the AI is doing it for them and that part of the brain is no longer active in the creative endeavors. 2) It said that when groups of people are using the AI chronically, and once again, I’m not talking about a one off to create a brochure for your 4H club or boy scouts or whatever, this is people that get up every morning and they are depending upon AI to do their creative work for them. When groups of people do that, the ideas that they come up with, and this is a term that’s used in this peer reviewed paper, the ideas become vanilla ideas, in other words, they become homogenous, everybody is kind of thinking along the same lines, and the really beautiful innovations that drive creativity and drive new pathways and new directions is lost.”

After bringing up the dark goals of the 2030 agenda he continues:

“These are technologists who fear death because they believe that they are in frail imperfect bodies. What they don’t realize is that we are actually a highly advanced, technologically sophisticated soft technology. We’re more advanced than a hard primitive computer chip that is limited- Is a computer chip fast? Absolutely. Is it efficient? Absolutely. Is it scalable? A computer chip can only scale to the point where the silicon can no longer move information any faster. And now you look at a human brain, you look at the human neuron. We’re fast, we’re efficient. What is the top end of our capacity? How scalable are we? The answer is we don’t know because every time we think we reached the limit, our biology morphs and adapts to that limit to open new vistas, new possibilities, and it happens again and again and again. We’re so advanced, we are so much more than the physical technology outside of our bodies, but the technologists don’t know that. The technologists believe Darwin’s idea of evolution. They believe we’re the product of random processes, and because of that, the random processes have led to the flaws. They don’t realize that we’re the most sophisticated technology that this world has ever, or will probably ever, see.”

“Our user interface to this advanced technology that we call the human body is the subject of our most ancient and cherished spiritual and indigenous traditions. We have seven epigenetic triggers that allow us to regulate this interface: Thought, feeling, emotion, breath, focus, nutrition and movement. Those are our user interface. And when we learn to access that interface in a good way our bodies can heal themselves. Every organ in the human body is documented with the ability to 1) stop the damage that is occurring if there’s disease, 2) it can repair the damage that’s been done and 3) it can regenerate every organ in the human body, even the ones we were told could not - brain tissue, spinal cord tissue, pancreatic tissue, heart tissue. But the key is that we must give the body the environment so that it can do what it needs to do. That environment is the product of those epigenetic triggers. What are we thinking, what are we feeling, what is the emotion that is flooding our body because every emotion sets into motion a cascade of chemicals. How do we move, how do we breathe, what is our nutrition? And this is what the technologists are missing.

There’s a word we haven’t used yet, the movement to replace us with technology is called the transhuman movement. Trans- means beyond, so beyond human, merging us with machines. What the transhumanists have lost, what they don’t realize is that we are the technology, we’re the very technology that we’re working toward and that we are rare and precious. And if we give ourselves away to the machines we’ll never get it back. You cannot go back once you make that kind of a choice and that’s why I feel this is a vital conversation.”

“There is a spiritual battle, an ancient battle, that began long ago in another world if we are to believe the texts, if we are to believe the oral traditions of the indigenous people, if we are to believe the archaeological records found in Mesopotamia, the Sumerian texts, the Akkadian texts, the Babylonian texts, if we are to believe the Gnostic texts discovered in 1945, and if we are to believe the unedited versions of the Christian Bible. As different as they are from one another, they’re all telling the same story using different words. A fundamental struggle between two forces that began in another world, made its way into this world, and you and I were born into this struggle, and for lack of a better term, knowing that these are charged terms, the way the texts describe the struggle - it’s a battle between good and evil. And good and evil means different things to different people. One of the most powerful definitions that we can create for evil in this world is anything that denies our humanness, anything that denies our ability to imagine freely, and to create, and innovate, and feel empathy for another human, and sympathy and compassion, anything that denies our ability to forgive, to love, to heal, these are all uniquely human capacities. And the stated goal of evil in these texts, and specifically in the forbidden texts of the Nag Hammadi library, the Gnostic texts that were discovered in 1945, and then the edited Biblical texts that were removed in the 4th Century, the common theme between those two bodies of work, that we don’t get to see today because it was edited out, that theme is that there is a force in this world that seeks to deny our humanness, and by denying our uniquely human capabilities then renders us vulnerable and susceptible to the agendas of those forces. Anything that steals or denies our humanness, anything that denies our ability to imagine, to create, (to) innovate, to heal, to love, to forgive.

So now you come back to the beginning of this conversation. Technology, the AI. If we allow the AI to replace our human capacities to imagine and now we have the AI do all the imagining and all the creating, and we have the AI make the artwork and write the lyrics for the songs, and then write the music to those lyrics, that is an expression of evil by definition because it is denying our human capacity to express those abilities. You used a word earlier and we didn’t explore that word. The word was human divinity. Many people link divinity to religion because there are schools of divinity that make that connection. And they’re good schools and they do good things. But the contemporary definition of divinity surprises a lot of people. It has nothing to do with religion. And that definition is simply the ability to transcend perceived limitations. And that’s it. So let’s break that down. The ability to transcend means to become more than, perceived limitations, most of us are living within limits that are not even real, they’re not even true. They are limits that we have been indoctrinated or programmed to accept into our lives of what we can and cannot do and what a human is and is not capable of. Divinity is our ability to move beyond, transcend, those limits. So who says we can’t heal our own bodies? We can. The programming is that we need something outside of us to heal our bodies but the science is showing just what I said earlier, every organ in the human body is now documented with the ability to stop the damage, repair what happened, and rejuvenate, regenerate that tissue. That goes beyond the indoctrination, and that’s just one little example.

So, divinity. Now we’re gonna look at the big, big picture. Here we are barreling down road toward 2030 where the technologists envision us giving our humanness away in exchange for efficiency, speed, and safety of information. The ancient texts tell us that there is a force on this world that has always sought to deny our divinity, our humanness. And when we relinquish our power to AI and computer chips in the brain and all the things that we’ve talked about, that is evil accomplishing it’s goal because we have now denied the very values that we cherish as a human. We’re giving that away to the technology because we’re being told life is easier, life is safer, we’re more efficient, and maybe the world is a more peaceful world. These are the taglines that are being used in the marketing, and I know it’s happening and I’m still in awe. It’s really good marketing, really sexy videos on YouTube. There’s a video of guy walking down the street, birds are singing, the sky is blue, the music is playing and he says he has never felt freer in his life. So he gets to his car and the chip inside of his hand is how he starts that car. And then he gets to work and the chip inside of his hand is how he gets into his security door. Then he goes to buy groceries and the chip in his wrist is how he’s linking to his bank account. What it’s not showing is that he’s surrendered his sovereignty and his freedom and is now part, linked into, a digital network, a digital system that has removed that sovereignty and freedom. His thoughts are no longer his thoughts. Is he safe? Maybe. Is he more peaceful, less stressful? Maybe. Has he given away his humanness? Definitely.”

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And some good info in the description:

"If your intuition says humanity isn’t ready for unchecked AI superintelligence — trust it.
A global open letter just launched calling for a pause until it’s demonstrably safe:
https://superintelligence-statement.org/"

[Ravenlocke]

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The women of Nowogródek came running to the convent that terrible night in July 1943. They were crying. Begging. The Nazis had just arrested their husbands, their fathers, their sons. One hundred and twenty men. All sentenced to die by firing squad.

"Please," they sobbed to the sisters. "Pray for them. They're all we have left."

The eleven nuns gathered in their small convent room. Outside, Nazi-occupied Poland was a nightmare. Half their town was already dead. The Jewish families who had been their neighbors? Gone. The priests who had served alongside them? Shot.

These women had already lost everything else. Now they were about to lose even more.

Sister Maria Stella was 54, the mother figure of their little community. She looked at her sisters' faces in the candlelight. They were teachers. Nurses. Women who had given their lives to serve others.

They had no weapons. No political power. No way to fight the monsters who controlled their world.

But they had one thing.

"We could offer our lives instead," Sister Maria Stella said quietly.

The room went silent.

Think about that moment. Eleven women, sitting in a tiny room, calmly discussing whether to volunteer to die. Not in a moment of passion. Not in a burst of heroic emotion. Just quiet, determined love.

They talked it through. These 120 men had wives who needed them. Children who would starve without them. The sisters were free from family obligations. They could be spared more easily than fathers.

One by one, each sister agreed.

The next morning, Sister Maria Stella walked to the parish priest. "Father," she said, "if sacrifice of life is needed, accept it from us and spare those who have families. We are even praying for this intention."

They were literally asking God to kill them instead.

What happened next defies explanation.

The execution was suddenly canceled. No reason given. The 120 men were loaded onto trains and sent to labor camps in Germany instead. Some were even released outright.

The sisters' prayer seemed to be working. But God wasn't finished.

Two weeks later, the Gestapo came for the nuns.

No charges. No trial. No explanation. Just an order: "Report to headquarters at 7:30 PM."

Before she left, Sister Maria Stella gave one last instruction. She told Sister Małgorzata to stay behind at the convent. Someone needed to tend the church after they were gone.

Sister Małgorzata watched her eleven sisters walk up the street in their black habits. The townspeople lined the windows, knowing they would never see them again.

The sisters spent their last night in a basement jail cell, praying the rosary together.

At dawn on August 1st, 1943, they were loaded into a covered truck. Five kilometers outside town, in a forest of birch and pine trees, a grave had already been dug.

Eleven women knelt side by side in the dirt.

They said goodbye to each other. Then, one by one, starting with Sister Maria Stella, they were shot.

Their bodies fell into the mass grave together. The youngest was 27. The oldest was 54. Teachers, nurses, servants of God who had asked to die so that strangers might live.

The war dragged on for two more years.

Sister Małgorzata stayed in the empty convent, tending to their secret grave in the woods. The parish priest they had tried to save survived. He joined the underground resistance and kept fighting.

And in 1945, when the war finally ended, something miraculous was revealed.

Every single one of the 120 men survived.

The ones sent to labor camps came home. The ones who had been released lived through the occupation. Not one father. Not one husband. Not one son had died.

One hundred and twenty families were reunited because eleven women had knelt in the dirt and died in their place.

Their prayer had been answered completely.

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