What causes pedophilia?

[petra]

I welcome any and all possible reasons why pedophilia could possibly happen

Do you think it's demonic? Is it aliens again? Wtf is going on

[Bluegreen]

You don't choose your sexuality. Your sexuality chooses you.

[petra]

You don't choose your sexuality. Your sexuality chooses you.

Interesting
Pedophilia isn't really the same as sexuality though

I'm more curious why it could happen in the first place. Are you saying some souls choose to be a pedo?

[Bluegreen]

You don't choose your sexuality. Your sexuality chooses you.

Interesting
Pedophilia isn't really the same as sexuality though

Of course it is. What else could it be?


I'm more curious why it could happen in the first place. Are you saying some souls choose to be a pedo?

No, the opposite.

[Losus4]

Chronic porn use. Habituation to one type of porn makes you seek out/escalate to more extreme porn to give you the same dopamine rush. As one porn user puts it—

When I first started looking at porn, I was only interested in pictures and solo sets. As I got older, I started getting into more hardcore content – degrading and taboo **** that makes me sick to think about. Many porn addicts don’t think they have a problem until they reach the "what the **** did I just jerk off to?" stage.

My tastes in the beginning started off innocent enough, typical male on female, and for years that was enough. Then I got into lesbians and MILF because they felt new and exotic. I never saw any of this as a problem at the time, I was just a normal horny teenager. Then around the age of 20 I began a rapid decline into deviancy, leading to a two year obsession with rape porn. I then started looking for the next taboo, but what can be more taboo than rape? Apparently, my mind thought granny porn was it. That went on for a little while until one night with my dick in my hand I looked at my screen at this old woman and just felt absolutely disgusted with myself. Here I was having climaxed to something that the mere thought of used to make me flaccid. I realised then I had a big problem.


Read chapter "The Porn Trap" in my free book "The Nofap Success System" - https://drive.google.com/file/d/1YO5jRPduIl6VIUpYxWL5E8gwaln27JOL/view

[sdv]

The Epstein case has muddied the waters about the definition of what paedophilia actually is. Here is a definition:


Pedophilia (alternatively spelled paedophilia) is a psychiatric disorder in which an adult or older adolescent experiences a sexual attraction to prepubescent children. Although girls typically begin the process of puberty at age 10 or 11, and boys at age 11 or 12, psychiatric diagnostic criteria for pedophilia extend the cut-off point for prepubescence to age 13. People with the disorder are often referred to as pedophiles (or paedophiles).

The Wikipedia entry does go into detail about the causes, but it does not 'add up' for me. Although we do not have conclusive evidence, we have circumstantial evidence that people who have a relatively high IQ, are wealthy, and are accepted in society do have, at least, paedophiiac urges. Epstein is a classic case of that. Perhaps the only piece of definite circumstantial evidence we have is the birthday cards of Epstein surrounded by little girls (clearly pre-pubescent) giving him 'massages'. Here is an excerpt from the 'Causes' on Wikipedia:


Testing individuals from a variety of referral sources inside and outside the criminal justice system as well as controls, these studies found associations between pedophilia and lower IQs, poorer scores on memory tests, greater rates of non-right-handedness, greater rates of school grade failure over and above the IQ differences, being below average height, greater probability of having had childhood head injuries resulting in unconsciousness, and several differences in MRI-detected brain structures.

But, perhaps I am assuming that someone from the powerful elite, like Epstein, was genuinely of high intelligence, genuinely well educated, had a great memory, was not dropped on his head as an infant and child, and did not exhibit differences from the norm in brain structures. He was shorter than average, or of average height at best.

I think we must consider that paedophilia urges are part of the human condition (like evil)*, but over Millenia, they have been suppressed, so none of the contributing factors actually cause paedophilia urges but they erode barriers to paedophilia behaviours that have been there for Millenia. However, not everyone who has low IQ, is shorter than average, etc. will experience paedophilia urges (most will not), so is there something else at play that we are missing, and how do we implement effective prevention?

* But paedophilia does not serve the goal of survival of the species, not directly anyway. Psychologically and physically it could cause damage to children that actually threatens the survival of the tribe. So, what causes paedophilia? How can we effectively eradicate it if we do not know?

[meat suit]

It has been with humanity for a long time, internet porn and social media has certainly propelled it to new levels.
In Sparta it was standart practise for boys aged 7 to leave their mother and become a warriors apprentice and sex slave.

From a mammalian perspective, for a male to pass semen to a female in 'season' is irresistable.
From the moment she starts menstruating and ovulating, its game on.
Cultural conditions encourage human females to simulate being in 'season' by using various displays ie. makeup, body exposure etc.

So on one level of peophilia, we are dealing with the mammalian procreation urge.

Translating the porn thing to the wild, I believe there is a mechanism that makes a lower ranking male chuck his semen at a copulating couple in the hope that it may cause pregnancy.

[petra]

Chronic porn use. Habituation to one type of porn makes you seek out/escalate to more extreme porn to give you the same dopamine rush. As one porn user puts it—

When I first started looking at porn, I was only interested in pictures and solo sets. As I got older, I started getting into more hardcore content – degrading and taboo **** that makes me sick to think about. Many porn addicts don’t think they have a problem until they reach the "what the **** did I just jerk off to?" stage.

My tastes in the beginning started off innocent enough, typical male on female, and for years that was enough. Then I got into lesbians and MILF because they felt new and exotic. I never saw any of this as a problem at the time, I was just a normal horny teenager. Then around the age of 20 I began a rapid decline into deviancy, leading to a two year obsession with rape porn. I then started looking for the next taboo, but what can be more taboo than rape? Apparently, my mind thought granny porn was it. That went on for a little while until one night with my dick in my hand I looked at my screen at this old woman and just felt absolutely disgusted with myself. Here I was having climaxed to something that the mere thought of used to make me flaccid. I realised then I had a big problem.


Read chapter "The Porn Trap" in my free book "The Nofap Success System" - https://drive.google.com/file/d/1YO5jRPduIl6VIUpYxWL5E8gwaln27JOL/view

Thanks for this I think it's very interesting but it just doesn't resonate because of my brother. I don't think he ever touched porn but I can't find out because I have no way of talking to him.

Chronic porn use is definitely a problem, I found someone on suicidewatch Reddit with that exact same "disorder"

[petra]

The Epstein case has muddied the waters about the definition of what paedophilia actually is. Here is a definition:


Pedophilia (alternatively spelled paedophilia) is a psychiatric disorder in which an adult or older adolescent experiences a sexual attraction to prepubescent children. Although girls typically begin the process of puberty at age 10 or 11, and boys at age 11 or 12, psychiatric diagnostic criteria for pedophilia extend the cut-off point for prepubescence to age 13. People with the disorder are often referred to as pedophiles (or paedophiles).

The Wikipedia entry does go into detail about the causes, but it does not 'add up' for me. Although we do not have conclusive evidence, we have circumstantial evidence that people who have a relatively high IQ, are wealthy, and are accepted in society do have, at least, paedophiiac urges. Epstein is a classic case of that. Perhaps the only piece of definite circumstantial evidence we have is the birthday cards of Epstein surrounded by little girls (clearly pre-pubescent) giving him 'massages'. Here is an excerpt from the 'Causes' on Wikipedia:


Testing individuals from a variety of referral sources inside and outside the criminal justice system as well as controls, these studies found associations between pedophilia and lower IQs, poorer scores on memory tests, greater rates of non-right-handedness, greater rates of school grade failure over and above the IQ differences, being below average height, greater probability of having had childhood head injuries resulting in unconsciousness, and several differences in MRI-detected brain structures.

But, perhaps I am assuming that someone from the powerful elite, like Epstein, was genuinely of high intelligence, genuinely well educated, had a great memory, was not dropped on his head as an infant and child, and did not exhibit differences from the norm in brain structures. He was shorter than average, or of average height at best.

I think we must consider that paedophilia urges are part of the human condition (like evil)*, but over Millenia, they have been suppressed, so none of the contributing factors actually cause paedophilia urges but they erode barriers to paedophilia behaviours that have been there for Millenia. However, not everyone who has low IQ, is shorter than average, etc. will experience paedophilia urges (most will not), so is there something else at play that we are missing, and how do we implement effective prevention?

* But paedophilia does not serve the goal of survival of the species, not directly anyway. Psychologically and physically it could cause damage to children that actually threatens the survival of the tribe. So, what causes paedophilia? How can we effectively eradicate it if we do not know?

Thanks for the detailed reply it's difficult to know what to think! Nothing makes sense

[Agape]

I think that science of today especially brain sciences and neurology are on the way of finding answers to that question but are not there quite yet.

From very broad perspective , speaking of humans, it's a type of developmental disorder .

Suppose the primitive , reptilian brain tight to the limbic system is forcibly suppressed from evolving further in childhood but gains dominance later on or the individual suffers accident to other parts of brain but limbic system automatically takes over ( aka autopilot ) the person are allegorically, developmentally, in state of child, no matter the age.
No matter how big are they they perceive themselves as the "Child".

Child that has been hurt by "adults", abandoned , mistreated , deceived and so forth , themselves free of guilt ( the simplified version of internal brain may be beautiful for being simple and innocent ). and the only way to reconnect, purify and heal the trauma requires finding "an equal".


The generalised condition of under development typically comes with some type of neurovegetative disorder that further imprints the whole situation.

In short, those people need to be collected and put into big kindargden for adults , never let out again till they become at least half conscious of their condition.




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[petra]

I think that science of today especially brain sciences and neurology are on the way of finding answers to that question but are not there quite yet.

From very broad perspective , speaking of humans, it's a type of developmental disorder .

Suppose the primitive , reptilian brain tight to the limbic system is forcibly suppressed from evolving further in childhood but gains dominance later on or the individual suffers accident to other parts of brain but limbic system automatically takes over ( aka autopilot ) the person are allegorically, developmentally, in state of child, no matter the age.
No matter how big are they they perceive themselves as the "Child".

Child that has been hurt by "adults", abandoned , mistreated , deceived and so forth , themselves free of guilt ( the simplified version of internal brain may be beautiful for being simple and innocent ). and the only way to reconnect, purify and heal the trauma requires finding "an equal".


The generalised condition of under development typically comes with some type of neurovegetative disorder that further imprints the whole situation.

In short, those people need to be collected and put into big kindargden for adults , never let out again till they become at least half conscious of their condition.




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I like this reply a lot!

[DustOff72]

I would say it's caused by secret societies and their rituals, and secret societies can be done in the name of religion. I am just beginning to study a bit on the Talmud, and parts seem to rationalize pederasty, and the document is about 2000 years old according to what I've read so far.

Adrenochrome stems from this as I understand it. Sick puppies.

Children are conditioned to it, and if they make it to adulthood they become practitioners I guess. Some become whistleblowers, and that's how we find out.

[Mercedes]

It is not a type of sexuality, it's a perversion, it's demonic, do not waste my time trying to justify any side of it! It's the worst plague that's afflicted humanity. The victims are the most fragile and vulnerable of us , ZERO justification, period.

[shaberon]

In Sparta it was standart practise for boys aged 7 to leave their mother and become a warriors apprentice and sex slave.


That sort of thing is true, it would be a cultural norm in various areas.

The issue would be at what point it becomes a crime and I would tend to agree there is such a crime ring such as Disneyland, and then would we agree torture and snuffing are just an expression of sexuality?

I have no clue what could "cause" such an interest.

I'm not sure that sex has any other meaning than different batches of hormones merging with reproductive potential.

I've had people tell me that they don't like the opposite hormones, like you don't eat a lemon, and I intellectually comprehend what they are saying and I just don't get it. Pedophilia is a step beyond the gist of that. It goes on to all sorts of things that I guess you could say are "sexual stimulation", but something is missing from all of that.

I expect you could be hypnotized out of it.

[Isserley]

It's just another form of abuse that the other party clearly doesn't enjoy at all, and that's the point.
That's what "turns on" the one who practices such pleasure. Very similar to any other form of abuse, the sick pleasure that comes from the suffering of the oppressed. Of course, it's of demonic (archonic) origin, like any negative, inhuman behavior that violates the health and safety of others.

[Nasu]

Interesting answers to a difficult question.

My own feeling is that if we could collectively understand it or comprehend it, then it wouldn’t be treated like abuse or a crime. Some things are too difficult to understand from outside of, I think this is one such case.

The why’s and wherefores of such thinking and behaviour can and probably will be debated till the end of time, personally I accept that this is one subject that I will never fully understand, I’m ok with that. Pity for both the perpetrators and victims is about the best I can come up with…..x….. N

[petra]

Thanks for all the replies!
Following this I think it could be a combination of things
Rape is connected too, and I certainly think dark forces play a role

[rgray222]

Evil is a force and presence that absolutely influences human behavior. Evil puts people into an environmental and psychological trauma, such as abuse, neglect, and exposure to violence, that can all be contributing factors in serious moral corruption. It is very hard to identify what causes paedophilia because it is hard to understand what exactly causes evil. There is little question that some people have a predisposition to evil caused by upbringing, environment, mental state and the choices they ultimately make. The spiritual component of evil is hard to understand because it is intangible, abstract and a powerful force that influences man.

Evil does not care what label you put on it, rapist, murderer, corruption or pedophilia, it is all simply evil.

[petra]

Here is a somewhat relevant post on Reddit about someone who has pedophila tendencies and wants to know if he should kill himself or NOT...
https://www.reddit.com/r/SuicideWatch/s/wkT95WzFki

It's 15 hours old at the moment and already has hundred or so upvotes

I keep thinking about my brother. I hope he is doing ok. He asked himself the same question before and yet he's still alive because he is strong