Congresswoman Anna Paulina Luna says ET are real.

[Eric J (Viking)]

U.S. Congresswoman Anna Paulina Luna says she was shown information inside a SCIF regarding “interdimensional beings”…..

U.S. Congresswoman Anna Paulina Luna says she was shown information inside a SCIF—a highly secure, no-phones, no-recording room where top-secret government material is reviewed. She suggested that the “interdimensional beings” she learned about may even connect to ancient texts removed from the Bible, like the Book of Enoch, which talks about non-human entities giving advanced knowledge to humans. Luna says these beings are real, and she can’t say more without breaking security rules. This is now the second member of Congress claiming they’ve seen undeniable proof of non-human intelligence…

Short video…

https://x.com/AstronomyVibes/status/20133914466788724492013391446678872449

[Irminsül]

Hi Eric, thanks for your input! The news you’re sharing is certainly relevant. I can’t help but mention that I still find it positive, in general terms, that the existence of extraterrestrial beings is gradually becoming 'official.' However, beyond that, we return to what many of us analyzed in the documentary 'The Age of Disclosure': there is a marked intentionality to portray extraterrestrial—or interdimensional—beings as enemies or dangerous to humanity. This is a biased and tendentious view, at least from my perspective as a researcher on the subject. The intervention of intergalactic races regarding us is another story entirely; it’s something we have some notion of, but I don’t think we are close to fully understanding the agendas of these beings.

It doesn’t seem like a coincidence to me that this woman mentions the Book of Enoch.. Specifically, her mention of beings who gave technology to men. In that sacred Abrahamic text, it speaks of the Watchers (fallen angels) who gave us knowledge of metallurgy, sorcery, astronomy, etc. This book also speaks of angels and archangels, but it places heavy emphasis on the Watchers and the Nephilim (the offspring of fallen angels and human women). Paulina Luna, in her mention, refers to demons. So, this concept of the danger that beings from the cosmos or other dimensions represent to us continues to be reinforced.

I'm leaving you a chart regarding the outcomes of encounters between UFO occupants and humans. It is based on the entire documented record available from 1940 to 2026:



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[Mike Gorman]

I don't want to insult, or denigrate anyone, I am however perturbed with this claim of "interdimensional beings" - what specifically is meant by this, I know the subject of extra dimensions has been with us since SCi-Fi stories offered us 'monsters from the 7th dimension" type titles, BUT from my own science studies I am aware that such dimensions are not likely to exist in the way these people suggest, actual physical spaces where biological entities can exist at an angle to our 4 dimensional universe. I can accept 'frequencies' along the very large electro-magnetic spectrum, but not dimensional additions - we know that mathematically there can be micro geometric theoretical aspects to space. The Brits & American covert aerospace/scientific community, along with the really hidden intelligence communities know something deeply profound about our universe, they are very reluctant to share this openly with us, disclosure has already taken place, it is now the details that we need & absolute confirmation for the "Normies" - sorry to use that expression, but it is true. I really hope they have the courage to let us all know how utterly helpless humanity is, we really need to know the truth, no matter how confronting this is, don't you think?

[jaybee]

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Perhaps the big hoo ha and secret about 'Interdimensional Beings' (whatever is specifically meant by that term) + discussed behind closed doors - is that WE OURSELVES are part interdimensional - part Advanced Beings....possibly more than just a part - because of our hybrid nature -

And perhaps the DNA mix of the physical creature that can exist in Earth's environment and the 'Higher Being' located elsewhere gives us a foot in both 'worlds' .... ?

There are some brilliant and fascinating videos on Paul Wallis's channel 'The 5th Kind (https://www.youtube.com/@The5thKind) going into these sorts of subjects - looking at Bible texts for deeper revelations - Paul Wallis was a regular clergyman in the Anglican Church in Australia for over 30 years and was even one step down from Bishop.... but he has taken a different direction now because there were anomalies in the Bible that made him ask deep questions about his faith...

here's a sample - with Paul giving a short resumé about his past at the beginning -

"Over 30 Years in the Church… Then I Found the Shocking Truth About God in the Bible" Paul Wallis (27:46)

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After over 30 years in church ministry, Paul Wallis made a discovery in the Bible that changed everything he thought he knew about the Garden of Eden. What if the story we've been told… isn’t the whole story?

[Eric J (Viking)]

Yes I agree with the inter-dimensional wording. Maybe she just picked up the word without realising the true meaning of what it meant. 🤷‍♂️.

Personally I would use the word Extraterrestrial or even other off world beings.

AI says…

Extraterrestrial vs. Interdimensional

• Extraterrestrial — Physical biological beings from another planet/star system in our universe, traveling via advanced spacecraft (classic “aliens”).
• Interdimensional — Entities from alternate layers of reality that may already coexist “alongside” or “inside” ours, entering via shifts in perception, energy, or dimensional “leaks” (not requiring interstellar distances).

Many researchers (including some ex-intelligence/military figures) now favor interdimensional or “ultraterrestrial” explanations over purely extraterrestrial ones because they better fit observed “impossible” behaviors.

Anyway good news that this is leaking out but I wonder what the general public will make of this.

[grapevine]

I feel the ptb are drip-feeding us so as when it DOES come out many people might respond “meh” and not “WTF??”

Re the method of travel, ie inter or extra terrestrial (and hey, I thought there’s a race living deep in our oceans, who would regard US as the aliens) made me wonder whether they use portals or co-ordinates, ie. with lat/longtitude equivalents they could potentially appear in our living rooms.

Also wonder why the USA is still the only country to be actively releasing semi-official information and not other countries and whether there’s been some kind of international agreement about Disclosure, the who, how, what, where and when of it.

[sdv]

I feel the ptb are drip-feeding us so as when it DOES come out many people might respond “meh” and not “WTF??”

Re the method of travel, ie inter or extra terrestrial (and hey, I thought there’s a race living deep in our oceans, who would regard US as the aliens) made me wonder whether they use portals or co-ordinates, ie. with lat/longtitude equivalents they could potentially appear in our living rooms.

Also wonder why the USA is still the only country to be actively releasing semi-official information and not other countries and whether there’s been some kind of international agreement about Disclosure, the who, how, what, where and when of it.

Why the USA? Control and dominance. The entire world, but especially Americans have been programmed, decade after decade, to ignore reality and truth, and to accept, be divided by and distracted by falsehoods, narratives, manufactured threats, etc.

I suspect that Musk may not bending the knee in adoring supplication to Trump but in order to stay close to power and implement the multi-layered systems for global control. When Musk declares that ETs and UFOs are real, and that the USA has their technology etc., everyone will believe him, even if it is not real, partly because he has the systems and technology in place to manipulate and control. (But maybe he is a naive manipulated fool?!)

So, yes, I do have the feeling that 'disclosure' is going to happen soon. Remember, a lie is easier to sell if part of the materials used to build that lie are the truth. What I am most concerned about is the truth being buried in the massive psyops looming in the near future. However, I am not completely without hope. China is working steadily and surely on Moon and Mars missions. Therin lies the possibility that the actual truth will also be available to counter the psyops run by Musk and the 'global elite' from the USA

It is difficult, but not impossible, to find testimony from Russia and China about what the heck is going on in space and who is out there. If those two countries are actually part of the global psyops, mostly but not exclusively, being driven by Musk, we are 'you know what' and we will have to rely on our own curiosity and sceptisism and research.

Included in my beliefs are that there is not only one ET race 'out there', but even one ET race may consist of differences in opinions and actions. The Annunaki (or whatever you want to call them) consisted of different types of beings, and even among the Elohim, there were differences and, for example clashes between Yahweh and other Elohim.

[jaybee]

U.S. Congresswoman Anna Paulina Luna says she was shown information inside a SCIF regarding “interdimensional beings”…..

U.S. Congresswoman Anna Paulina Luna says she was shown information inside a SCIF—a highly secure, no-phones, no-recording room where top-secret government material is reviewed. She suggested that the “interdimensional beings” she learned about may even connect to ancient texts removed from the Bible, like the Book of Enoch, which talks about non-human entities giving advanced knowledge to humans. Luna says these beings are real, and she can’t say more without breaking security rules. This is now the second member of Congress claiming they’ve seen undeniable proof of non-human intelligence…

Short video… {snipped see opening post...}



re the bolded above .....

Here's Paul Wallis (who I mentioned earlier) talking about the book of Enoch for anyone who's interested -

The Book of Enoch Banned from The Bible Reveals Shocking Secrets Of Our History! (49:03)

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The Book of Enoch was banned from the Bible for a reason. Quoted in the New Testament and preserved by the Ethiopian Orthodox Church, it tells an explosive story of human history that mainstream religion could not allow. The text describes the “Watchers”—powerful beings who descended from the heavens, abducted human women, and produced a race of giants known as the Nephilim. It reveals secrets of astronomy, hybridization, and human origins that echo through Sumerian, Mayan, African, and Native American traditions.

In this episode of The 5th Kind, Paul Wallis explores what the Book of Enoch reveals about our ancient contact with advanced non-human intelligences, why it was excluded from the biblical canon, and how its themes still resonate with abduction accounts today. From the Mami Wata stories of West Africa to the Dogon tribe’s knowledge of the Sirius star system, the Enochian narrative is part of a much wider story of forbidden history...


If the disclosure everyone is waiting for includes revealing that evolution didn't happen like we've been taught - that we didn't come from monkeys and apes - and we were in fact created by Advanced Beings who used their own DNA with ....... I think it could have been with a Saurian type creature, an amphibian type creature, that could live and reproduce in Earth's atmosphere, (?? :) ) as a first stage hybrid..... ...... if disclosure will have to include mind blowing revelations like that - well - it's not going to be as straight forward as once thought....

[Irminsül]

Hi Mike. I agree with you that: “The British and American covert aerospace/scientific community, along with the truly hidden intelligence communities, know something deeply profound about our universe, but they are very reluctant to share this openly with us.” There is no doubt that this is the case. Certain information that has been leaked over the decades confirms this.


Now, regarding your position on the existence of other dimensions where it is unlikely that beings inhabit: for most theoretical physicists, extra dimensions are an indispensable tool. Currently, the most widely accepted model that requires them is String Theory (and its evolution, M-Theory). The mathematics that attempt to unite gravity with quantum physics (the “Theory of Everything”) simply do not work in 3 or 4 dimensions. The equations “break down.” To be consistent, the universe needs to have 10 or 11 dimensions.


Scientists who support what I have just stated are the following: Theodor Kaluza and Oskar Klein, Edward Witten, Lisa Randall, Michio Kaku, and Stephen Hawking.


Would you like to tell me what you base your belief that what these eminent scientists propose is wrong on? I am interested in knowing what kind of research you have done.


And apart from all that, there is another factor. In countless ufological cases, both ships and beings dematerialize (or materialize). In some situations, they only become invisible to the eye and can still be detected by radar. In others, they disappear completely from the perception of any instrument used to detect them. Extraterrestrials or ultraterrestrials also have the ability to appear to people in their dreams. Or take them to their ships, bases, or planets where time and space behave differently. All of this leads me to believe that they do indeed come from other dimensions. Or that at least they have the ability to travel through them.


It is true that what I stated in the last paragraph can only be attributed to technology so advanced that we are nowhere near understanding it, and that they are not interdimensional beings. But in any case, I prefer to keep an open mind about both possibilities. It seems to me that there are beings who travel from physical planets to Earth. And others who do come from other planes. And there may even be some who travel through time and others who have simply been on our planet since before us and are still here. It's a very complex picture, haha.

[Irminsül]

Hello Jaybee. I agree with what you wrote. First of all, we are beings who have a physical existence, and in addition to that, there is another aspect of us that resides on another plane. All the great spiritual traditions, philosophical schools, and religions propose something of this nature. The fact that we have a spirit that is a fractal or spark of the Creator's light is, for me, a reality. Apart from that, the mystical ecstasy reached by some Christian saints, or samadhi for yogis, or nirvana for Buddhists, and what these people experience in these supernatural states, is further evidence of this.


And the idea that we are hybrid beings or partly made from the genetics of star races also seems very likely to me. I have researched numerous cases of contactees (especially emphasizing and delving into those with the most evidence of the legitimacy of their experiences). They all agree on one key point: that our current humanity is the product of a crucible of intergalactic beings.



Someone who spoke about this is the Argentine prophet I often refer to: Benjamín Solari Parravicini. Here I share his psychography on this subject with its corresponding translation:


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"La Teoría de Darwin, dejará de ser porque se sabrá que el hombre bajó de los planetas."

“Darwin's Theory will no longer be because it will be known that man came down from the planets.”

[jaybee]

Hello Jaybee. I agree with what you wrote. First of all, we are beings who have a physical existence, and in addition to that, there is another aspect of us that resides on another plane. All the great spiritual traditions, philosophical schools, and religions propose something of this nature. The fact that we have a spirit that is a fractal or spark of the Creator's light is, for me, a reality. Apart from that, the mystical ecstasy reached by some Christian saints, or samadhi for yogis, or nirvana for Buddhists, and what these people experience in these supernatural states, is further evidence of this.


And the idea that we are hybrid beings or partly made from the genetics of star races also seems very likely to me. I have researched numerous cases of contactees (especially emphasizing and delving into those with the most evidence of the legitimacy of their experiences). They all agree on one key point: that our current humanity is the product of a crucible of intergalactic beings.



Someone who spoke about this is the Argentine prophet I often refer to: Benjamín Solari Parravicini. Here I share his psychography on this subject with its corresponding translation:


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"La Teoría de Darwin, dejará de ser porque se sabrá que el hombre bajó de los planetas."

“Darwin's Theory will no longer be because it will be known that man came down from the planets.”


Thanks for the feedback and comments, Irminsül..... :thumbsup:

You make good points about it all....

And re Darwin - (from memory)....apparently he had trouble maintaining a belief in the Theory of Evolution himself....something to do with the complexity of the human eye .....

I've just had a quick look about the above and although he said.... (in the Origin of Species)


"To suppose that the eye with all its inimitable contrivances for adjusting the focus to different distances, for admitting different amounts of light, and for the correction of spherical and chromatic aberration, could have been formed by natural selection, seems, I freely confess, absurd in the highest degree.”

Darwin called the evolution of the eye “absurd”! Doesn’t that show he really didn’t believe in evolution? Isn’t this proof enough?

He did, though, still maintain that the 'evolution' of the human eye could be explained by 'natural selection'...

https://answersingenesis.org/charles-darwin/didnt-darwin-call-the-evolution-of-the-eye-absurd/?srsltid=AfmBOop7PQmza4EPVb4oJ20GVTx1MTfDdpdDgQ2WufLwSwmBs1t8ap-_

But who, I suppose, at the end of the day can blame him for that :) - he was formulating a massive scientific theory to challenge Creationism - and if he didn't bring it all out someone else would have....

[Chip]

Being a Carl Jung fanboy, I couldn’t help but be curious as to what he thought of the “Watchers” in Enoch.
Late in his life he wrote a book “Flying Saucers: A modern myth of things seen in the Skies”…
(I can’t help but find some subtle humor in that title 😂)

His conclusion was subtle and brilliant:
• UFOs may or may not be physical
• But their psychological meaning is far more important

He believed:
• Humanity projects deep archetypes into the sky
• At moments of anxiety and transition
• The unconscious generates “technological angels”

Not because aliens are invading —
but because the psyche needs symbols to orient itself.

Jung didn’t see angels or non-human beings primarily as extraterrestrials, but as archetypal intelligences arising from the collective unconscious — forces of consciousness that feel “external” because they originate deeper than the ego.

In that sense, the Watchers giving forbidden knowledge maps closely to what Jung called “inflation”: consciousness expanding faster than moral or psychological integration. The danger is not the beings themselves, but premature access to power or insight before wisdom has developed.

Interestingly, Jung suggested these phenomena function psychologically as modern “angels” — symbols emerging during periods of collective anxiety and transformation. Whether physical or not, their meaning may be more about the state of human consciousness than visitors from elsewhere.

Enoch, Jung, and modern reports all seem to circle the same warning: knowledge without integration destabilizes both individuals and civilizations.

Oh dear now I’m pulling out Krishnamurti.
Huge Enoch fan but have never explored the thoughts of my favorites on this subject. I may have to continue later with him afterwards, or not as I fear going off topic as my fascination and interests lead me astray.
😂

[Johnnycomelately]

Being a Carl Jung fanboy, I couldn’t help but be curious as to what he thought of the “Watchers” in Enoch.
Late in his life he wrote a book “Flying Saucers: A modern myth of things seen in the Skies”…
(I can’t help but find some subtle humor in that title 😂)

His conclusion was subtle and brilliant:
• UFOs may or may not be physical
• But their psychological meaning is far more important

He believed:
• Humanity projects deep archetypes into the sky
• At moments of anxiety and transition
• The unconscious generates “technological angels”

Not because aliens are invading —
but because the psyche needs symbols to orient itself.

Jung didn’t see angels or non-human beings primarily as extraterrestrials, but as archetypal intelligences arising from the collective unconscious — forces of consciousness that feel “external” because they originate deeper than the ego.

In that sense, the Watchers giving forbidden knowledge maps closely to what Jung called “inflation”: consciousness expanding faster than moral or psychological integration. The danger is not the beings themselves, but premature access to power or insight before wisdom has developed.

Interestingly, Jung suggested these phenomena function psychologically as modern “angels” — symbols emerging during periods of collective anxiety and transformation. Whether physical or not, their meaning may be more about the state of human consciousness than visitors from elsewhere.

Enoch, Jung, and modern reports all seem to circle the same warning: knowledge without integration destabilizes both individuals and civilizations.

Oh dear now I’m pulling out Krishnamurti.
Huge Enoch fan but have never explored the thoughts of my favorites on this subject. I may have to continue later with him afterwards, or not as I fear going off topic as my fascination and interests lead me astray.
😂

Jung was crippled by his intellect. He based all his pronouncements about “life” on the academic framework of his day. Guy was an Ivory Tower hobo, same as all the Dark Matter prognosticators of today.

[Chip]

Being a Carl Jung fanboy, I couldn’t help but be curious as to what he thought of the “Watchers” in Enoch.
Late in his life he wrote a book “Flying Saucers: A modern myth of things seen in the Skies”…
(I can’t help but find some subtle humor in that title 😂)

His conclusion was subtle and brilliant:
• UFOs may or may not be physical
• But their psychological meaning is far more important

He believed:
• Humanity projects deep archetypes into the sky
• At moments of anxiety and transition
• The unconscious generates “technological angels”

Not because aliens are invading —
but because the psyche needs symbols to orient itself.

Jung didn’t see angels or non-human beings primarily as extraterrestrials, but as archetypal intelligences arising from the collective unconscious — forces of consciousness that feel “external” because they originate deeper than the ego.

In that sense, the Watchers giving forbidden knowledge maps closely to what Jung called “inflation”: consciousness expanding faster than moral or psychological integration. The danger is not the beings themselves, but premature access to power or insight before wisdom has developed.

Interestingly, Jung suggested these phenomena function psychologically as modern “angels” — symbols emerging during periods of collective anxiety and transformation. Whether physical or not, their meaning may be more about the state of human consciousness than visitors from elsewhere.

Enoch, Jung, and modern reports all seem to circle the same warning: knowledge without integration destabilizes both individuals and civilizations.

Oh dear now I’m pulling out Krishnamurti.
Huge Enoch fan but have never explored the thoughts of my favorites on this subject. I may have to continue later with him afterwards, or not as I fear going off topic as my fascination and interests lead me astray.
😂

Jung was crippled by his intellect. He based all his pronouncements about “life” on the academic framework of his day. Guy was an Ivory Tower hobo, same as all the Dark Matter prognosticators of today.

“Thinking is difficult, that is why most people judge.”
-Jung

[Irminsül]

His conclusion was subtle and brilliant:
• UFOs may or may not be physical
• But their psychological meaning is far more important



I believe that Carl Jung made several positive and very beneficial contributions to culture and to the study of the inner world of human beings. He developed concepts such as the collective unconscious, archetypes, synchronicity, and individuation: all of which are very useful and have helped to create a more comprehensive understanding of ourselves and our experience as living beings and carriers of consciousness.

However, whether the psychological effect that UFOs generate is more important than their very existence is highly debatable. It is undeniable that the mere idea that beings from other planets or dimensions exist and that they occasionally visit and interact with us is something that can greatly change how a person perceives their reality.


For some, it may be terrifying to know that there are races (or factions within them) such as the Greys or Reptilians, who are engaged in forced experiments on humans, sometimes even rape, or who have a dark agenda against humanity.

For others, it may be a great relief and give them a feeling of protection to know that there are Cosmic Brothers (Pleiadians, Venusians, etc.) who form a Galactic Confederation that, among other things, is dedicated to protecting Earth and caring for us humans.


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And with that, we return to the original debate of this thread. Why is it that now, of all times, the US government is dedicated to letting the world know that extraterrestrials (or ultraterrestrials) are real? Everything indicates to me that their machinations are perverse. Because, as I said at the beginning, they are presenting beings from the cosmos as dangerous invaders. And that is largely false.

[Bill Ryan]

“Thinking is difficult, that is why most people judge.”
-JungOne of the best replies to a post I've ever seen! :ROFL:

:focus:

[Vicus]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DjiwB57D20U

There you have it: The Elohim worshipers (we know who they are... ) :sherlock: vs Jesus

[jaybee]

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If Anna Paulina Luna was hinting at the 'Anunnaki' with her veiled comments about the Book of Enoch then we're back to the Nibiru question - Planet x -

Way back - I think it was around 2012 - there was some footage on Youtube that was said to be leaked from the South Pole Telescope and was said to be Nibiru and a few moons (think they were moons) - it was a few little smudgy red dots - (from an infrared telescope) one of which appeared to have the look of wings like the wings on Assyrian stele...... (if I remember right)..... it wasn't very spectacular but I think that was something in it's favour to be genuine - it all got turned around and the person who put them up seemed to disappear and someone else pretended to be them and said it was all a hoax and then they (the 2 short video)s disappeared -

They said that Nibiru was approaching from the South - deep in the Southern sky direction - and that's why it wasn't easy to see but the South Pole Telescope could track it in the infrared spectrum...

Although it's orbit around the sun is said to be 3600 years - it might not be that long from their point of view just from OUR point of view - and that could explain the crazy life span of some of the characters in the Bible....??

[Irminsül]

Regarding the study of linguistic terms and concepts such as “Elohim” and “Anunnaki”, one could undertake an incredibly extensive and profound investigation that would take years. If one were to conduct a rigorous and academic study, consulting the original texts, it would be necessary to learn: Sumerian, Akkadian, Ugaritic, Hebrew, and Hittite (at the very least).

In the meantime, we have to make do with what others have already investigated regarding this matter haha. It is true that parallels can be found between the myths and cultural heritage encompassing both groups of beings (since both are plural terms).

Now I will proceed to comment on some of these similarities:



Anunnaki: In the Enuma Elish and the Atrahasis, the lesser gods (Igigi) rebel because they are tired of working. Enki suggests creating humans so they can bear the burden of physical labor (farming, maintaining the canals).

Elohim: In Genesis, man is placed in Eden to "till it and keep it." Although the tone is more spiritual, the idea of the human as an administrator of divine creation is a direct echo of Sumerian cosmogony.


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In the Bible: It mentions the B'ne Elohim (Sons of the Gods) who saw that the daughters of men were beautiful and took wives for themselves, begetting the Nephilim. In the Book of Enoch, which expands on the narrative of the B'ne Elohim, these beings are 200 "Watchers" who descend onto Mount Hermon to impart knowledge to humans.

In the Sumerian/Akkadian tradition: It speaks of the Apkallu or beings linked to the Anunnaki who descended to bring knowledge.


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In the Bible: Elohim decides to confuse the languages at Babel so that men cannot understand each other and stop building a tower that reaches the heavens.

In Sumeria: The text Enmerkar and the Lord of Aratta describes a time when "all mankind spoke a single language," but the god Enki "confused" their languages so they could not cooperate.


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Melammu (Anunnaki): It is a mask of radiance or a terrifying aura worn by the gods. It is a physical substance that can be "put on" or "taken off." If a god loses his Melammu, he loses his authority.

Kavod (Elohim): Translated as "Glory," but its Hebrew root K-V-D means "heaviness" or "mass." In Exodus, the Kavod of Elohim is something that "descends," that burns like a devouring fire, and that Moses cannot look at directly without protection (the veil).


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In the Sumerian/Akkadian tradition: In the myth of Atrahasis, man is created by mixing clay with the blood and flesh of a sacrificed god named We-ilu (or Geshtu-e).

In the Bible: In Hebrew, the word for "blood" is Dam. The word for "man" is Adam. The word for "earth/clay" is Adamah.


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In the Bible: In Psalm 82, where God (Elohim) is described as presiding in the "assembly of the gods" (Adat-El). The text says: "God stands in the meeting of the gods; in the midst of the gods he judges."

In the Sumerian/Akkadian tradition: The deity does not act alone but is accountable to an administrative council. The gods operated under a hierarchy presided over by Anu, Enlil, and Enki.


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Lastly: When the Elohim say "Let us make man in our image," they use the Hebrew word Tselem. This term has the same root as the Akkadian Salmu. In Mesopotamia, a Salmu was a physical statue of a king or a god placed in a conquered territory to mark sovereignty. It follows from this that human beings are not created to "physically resemble" God in a metaphysical sense, but to be a physical avatar or a "living statue" of the Elohim on Earth. It is a concept of colonial administration: the Anunnaki/Elohim place "copies" of themselves to maintain order in their absence.

One could keep talking much more about the relationships that exist between these groups of beings. And one could also write extensively about what the Hebrew people expressed in the Torah and what they took from Mesopotamian myths. This correlation is due to the fact that the Hebrew people shared a cultural, linguistic, and geographical substrate with these millenary civilizations of the Ancient Near East. Anyway, in my opinion, this does not rule out the possibility that there were visitors from the cosmos influencing the peoples of this area. In fact, I am inclined to think that such was the case.



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[jaybee]

Regarding the study of linguistic terms and concepts such as “Elohim” and “Anunnaki”, one could undertake an incredibly extensive and profound investigation that would take years. If one were to conduct a rigorous and academic study, consulting the original texts, it would be necessary to learn: Sumerian, Akkadian, Ugaritic, Hebrew, and Hittite (at the very least).

In the meantime, we have to make do with what others have already investigated regarding this matter haha. It is true that parallels can be found between the myths and cultural heritage encompassing both groups of beings (since both are plural terms).

{snipped see #19}



Indeed - haha - yes....

One such investigator is Mauro Biglino - 'distinguished scholar and author who translated official Vatican-approved interlinear Bibles for Rome’s Saint Paul Press,'

Here he speaks about such matters in one of The 5th Kind Channel videos (https://www.youtube.com/@The5thKind)

The Book of the Secrets of Enoch | Mauro Biglino - The Bible, Anunnaki Gods , Elohim & The Nephilim (35:45)

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[Denise/Dizi]

I feel the ptb are drip-feeding us so as when it DOES come out many people might respond “meh” and not “WTF??”

Re the method of travel, ie inter or extra terrestrial (and hey, I thought there’s a race living deep in our oceans, who would regard US as the aliens) made me wonder whether they use portals or co-ordinates, ie. with lat/longtitude equivalents they could potentially appear in our living rooms.

Also wonder why the USA is still the only country to be actively releasing semi-official information and not other countries and whether there’s been some kind of international agreement about Disclosure, the who, how, what, where and when of it.


It seems to me that America is one of the last to actually slowly trickle out information about such things, while Europe and Canada, and South American sources have been sharing a lot more than the US... Not the first...

Why the USA? Control and dominance. The entire world, but especially Americans have been programmed, decade after decade, to ignore reality and truth, and to accept, be divided by and distracted by falsehoods, narratives, manufactured threats, etc.

All nations that have a large population have intelligence operations in play, this is nothing new, and not unique to America... The US is not unique in this, and the populations around the world have been surveilled forever... The BEST surveillance has been hidden for generations within the Catholic church, where everyone is promised redemption if only they share their "Sins" and get "Saved" after doing so... That is a brilliant strategy for population recon, as you learn the worst of the worst... It's brilliant actually... The first spy agency, continuing to this day. And the world thrives on disinformation... I am sure this started long before America ever became the country it is now...

I suspect that Musk may not bending the knee in adoring supplication to Trump but in order to stay close to power and implement the multi-layered systems for global control. When Musk declares that ETs and UFOs are real, and that the USA has their technology etc., everyone will believe him, even if it is not real, partly because he has the systems and technology in place to manipulate and control. (But maybe he is a naive manipulated fool?!)

So, yes, I do have the feeling that 'disclosure' is going to happen soon. Remember, a lie is easier to sell if part of the materials used to build that lie are the truth. What I am most concerned about is the truth being buried in the massive psyops looming in the near future. However, I am not completely without hope. China is working steadily and surely on Moon and Mars missions. Therin lies the possibility that the actual truth will also be available to counter the psyops run by Musk and the 'global elite' from the USA

It is difficult, but not impossible, to find testimony from Russia and China about what the heck is going on in space and who is out there. If those two countries are actually part of the global psyops, mostly but not exclusively, being driven by Musk, we are 'you know what' and we will have to rely on our own curiosity and sceptisism and research.

Included in my beliefs are that there is not only one ET race 'out there', but even one ET race may consist of differences in opinions and actions. The Annunaki (or whatever you want to call them) consisted of different types of beings, and even among the Elohim, there were differences and, for example clashes between Yahweh and other Elohim.

It is my opinion here, but I believe that all of those in space are coordinating their efforts at this point. The materials needed to get there, to remain there, and to thrive are scattered all over the planet... Some resources needed, located in areas that require such a commitment... (To work together or not share)... While we are all led to believe none of the larger countries can get along, I am sure there are parts of those countries that indeed work together... For a larger goal... Sort of a truce for the advancement of human kind, while we may still be fighting those same countries when it comes to Earthly matters...