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shaberon
28th February 2026, 09:00
There is an obvious new problem to contend with.

This thread is not an attempt to post every tiny little detail, but to focus on a few things in the realistic face of the problem of ever starting a better way at all.


2026 was the end of America's participation in civilization as expressed in the Peace of Westphalia and the United Nations Charter.


It was already a walkout, but previous violations were cloaked and built over by long discussions. And so we might say the masks came off.

Everyone knows we went into the 1950s with the assassination of Mossadeq and a genocide in Korea, kept making excuses for doing it around the world, until we have a person who thinks they can do whatever they want with abuses of power.


As Revolutionaries and Anti-Federalists, we told you so in 1789, perhaps now more people are ready to deal with it.


To proceed, I'll make an example of what I am doing by the forum Guidelines (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/announcement.php?f=152):


When sharing external (non-forum) material with other members, please do it in the form of links with summary paragraphs. Posting very long passages of external text is discouraged.

The summary of the content of the link should ideally be in your own words and/or with a short extract from the text itself. If you are quoting external text, please always give a link to the source material, so we can all clearly see where something has come from. This makes it easy for others to dig deeper into the posted material if it interests them.


Like that. We need enough of the external material to form a basis for our reaction. Most of the articles I link are trimmed down; sometimes the order may be changed. The thing is not posted for its own sake, but so we mentally process it.

This is the ideal:



We’d strongly recommend directing your comments, questions and concerns to the forum as a whole, so that anyone may answer you. This simple guideline promotes community discussion, rather than individual confrontation.


It's posted publicly, is supposed to be a public discussion. If I question a post's author, it is really just "a question" in public view.

Also:


“Dead text” unnecessarily consumes bandwidth, as well as server space and (most importantly) reading time. When replying to a post, please quote only the previous text that’s essential to the reply. Just edit (trim down) the text in quotes that you’re replying to.


So, yes, by "forum", it has the intent of public discussion. This subject is heavily polarized; there is no interest in what the current regime may say to justify itself. The purpose here is how to purge and prevent it from existing.



If right now, we are heading for an American faux pas of the highest order as a judgment against Iran, I fully believe this is part of what I posted with respect to the forum's main concern, The Anglo-
Saxon Mission (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?355-The-Anglo-Saxon-Mission&p=1697067&viewfull=1#post1697067).


I find that the current moment is the outcome of previous events. There are efforts to discard this or twist it around. We have other threads that cover this extensively.

Our lives have been a failure to enact reason.

The cause for that is mostly a matter of Congress.


Well, of course my Representative does not represent me, so how do I replace them. I can't. I started trying to figure out who they even were, and discovered the area where I am has been gerrymandered (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerrymandering):



...defined in the contexts of representative electoral systems, is the political manipulation of electoral district boundaries to advantage a party, group, or socioeconomic class within the constituency.


And what that means is, you will always get the same Republican-majority Congress; they basically won't be challenged.

That extreme actually is grounds for a revolution. The only possible work-around is as in the thread Vote Them out in the Primaries (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?130849-Vote-Them-out-in-the-Primaries-2026-and-Beyond).


In order to realistically shape American policy, you have to field Primary candidates that hold radically different values. I found them. Someone can do this.


That is exactly what is missing through stacks of forum posts and the whole history of protest movements in general.

These may be "messages", but they are being sent to people who don't want to hear it. You have to change the people.

The crude method is simply to vote out all the incumbents, let no one sit in office who governed during some stupid period, but it would be better to fine-tune the results to a new political platform.




One of the most important ideas we want to bring up is the end of the "Cold War" mentality and Security State.

This would address issues such as Imperialism, Zionism, and ICE. Documents about Gaza and the Kurds are living proof of the distorted language used to overwhelm populations. They can speak clearly against it. We can use that as a parallel.


In general, we would like to reverse policies of aggression and greed, and come up with something that would be of local benefit. I don't know what that is yet. I don't think anyone has the silver bullet of the perfect things to do, but we can broadly agree on a few things to stop doing.

I've read about things like de-fund the courts, which I do not agree to. Repealing things that perhaps ought not be prosecuted is what we have in mind.


Repealing institutions is the bulk of this strategy:


Federal Police

The Truman Doctrine (force projection)

Zionism, NATO (undesirable partnerships)

Income tax, Property tax, Federal Reserve, corporatism

Insurance domination, unrepeal Glass-Steagall; FIRE sector, rentier economy

Abuse of food and medicine



None of that is "necessary", in the way that figuring bankers' profits into Gross Domestic Product does not actually represent any product.


Page one of Turmoil in the United States (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?130313-Turmoil-in-the-United-States&p=1698176&viewfull=1#post1698176) looks at going after the corporate sponsors of ICE. As per posts above it, these powerful lobby groups are effectively "in control"; they would not be if they went out of business.


If we are serious about an uphill struggle, items that have minor Congressional support today, would have to become the majority, i. e., pass. The records tell us who says what. And so we can track the fate of strong proposals such as:


HR 7138 (https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/house-bill/7138/text?s=1&r=8) against Wall Street Landlords places a 100% tax on a big company selling an individual house.

HRes 1030 (https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/house-resolution/1030/text?s=1&r=16) impeaches Kristi and defunds ICE.



There is a minority, maybe 80-100, of Congresspeople who are not that bad and give a strong voice on some of these issues. Yet we will also find weaker legislation, such as proposals Israel is not allowed to use American weapons except under "certain circumstances"; a better proposal is to abolish supplying them in the first place.


This week I did not notice anything about the military and Iran, perhaps indicating the momentum is not really there; the Vice President is against it, the President may even be against it, but actually working for Israeli and affiliated corporate interests. So, that's why he's going to have to be the figurehead of the fall.


Here is a description of a few protest movements:


Indivisible (https://indivisible.org/) is Anti-Administration with a list of grievances.

Dissenters (https://wearedissenters.org/) is a crowd of young people. There isn't really anything else on their home page. There might be a little more to it through the links, but it appears shapeless.

Dimantle the MIC (https://www.dismantlethemic.org/) is a "resource hub" themed on Eisenhower's farewell address. It seems vested towards education if you want to learn a lot of stuff about defense contractors and so forth.

Friends Committee on National Legislation (https://www.fcnl.org/) is the Quaker lobbyists since 1943. That's perfectly legitimate. I didn't specifically ask if they had ever gotten anything passed. That's seventy years of Quaker presence in DC and my first impression is that Federal behavior does not resemble the Society of Friends. I'm going to guess that very little of their main idea which is the same as mine, has been particularly welcomed.

ANSWER (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A.N.S.W.E.R.) is a NYC-based response to 9/11 which includes communists and is anti-Zionist enough to instead support Hezbollah. And so it is because of those tendencies or "connections" that most other groups shy away from them. Too strong. Too acerbic. These must be the ones that Trump was telling to leave the country and I am guilty by association.



What we found with punk is that vested interests watered it down to a feeling of rebelliousness. All of these sorts of things have the tendency to be defrayed and sandbagged. The popular wave of resistance does not become translated into Acts of Congress. This loose assembly needs to be tightened up and aimed at a handful of basic principles, which, to me, mainly appear to be negations.



The intermediate tactic between being ignored and actually having a Congress that functions in a civilized manner is Class Action Lawsuits. These will come in mostly because of ICE such as:



Hussen v. Noem (https://www.aclu.org/press-releases/aclu-sues-federal-government-to-end-ice-cbps-practice-of-suspicionless-stops-warrantless-arrests-and-racial-profiling-of-minnesotans)


2018 Juvenile to Adult Transfers (https://immigrantjustice.org/for-attorneys/cases/garcia-ramirez-et-al-v-ice-et-al/)

Domestic Terrorism (https://www.npr.org/2026/02/23/nx-s1-5722988/dhs-lawsuit-biometrics-domestic-terrorism) (meaningless and un-enforceable)

Warrantless Arrests (https://www.aclu.org/press-releases/five-individuals-launch-class-action-lawsuit-over-warrantless-immigration-arrests-in-north-carolina)

ThePythonicCow
28th February 2026, 11:03
2026 was the end of America's participation in civilization as expressed in the Peace of Westphalia and the United Nations Charter.
I would suggest not confusing:

human civilization with
the "rule of law" as determined primarily by a few most powerful families, centered in recent centuries in the City of London, Western Europe, and the British Commonwealth, and who have dominated U.S. political and corporate structures for at least the last century.

ThePythonicCow
1st March 2026, 21:22
2026 was the end of America's participation in civilization as expressed in the Peace of Westphalia and the United Nations Charter.
I would suggest not confusing:

human civilization with
the "rule of law" as determined primarily by a few most powerful families, centered in recent centuries in the City of London, Western Europe, and the British Commonwealth, and who have dominated U.S. political and corporate structures for at least the last century.


E.M. Burlingame, one of the more astute commentators of our time (in my view at least) provides a fine review of the history of the English speaking empire, going back to the Glorious Revolution of 1688, which replaced a monarchy with a financial empire as the dominant power in England.

His report The Genesis Event -- 1688 as the Hostile Takeover of the English People Through State Capture (Substack) (https://substack.com/app-link/post?publication_id=858260&post_id=189570098) begins with this opening:

=== Begin quote from Burlingame's Substack article ===


1688 as the Hostile Takeover of the English People Through State Capture

E.M. Burlingame, Mar 1

Article II of the 400-Year English Civil War Series

The previous article in this series, This Our Third English Civil War, argued that the conflicts consuming parts of the world, most evident in the Middle East—the strikes on Iran, the instability across the Levant—aren’t what they appear. They’re not primarily about Tehran, nor about the Middle East, nor even about the ostensible great-power competition with Russia or China. They’re the latest and most revealing theater in a war that’s been raging for 400 years: a war within the English-speaking peoples, now in its final, decisive phase.

My argument rests on a foundational claim: that the English-speaking world’s been engaged in a continuous civil conflict since the mid-seventeenth century, and that this conflict entered its current phase—English Civil War 3.0—with the post-1945 transfer of imperial power from London to Washington. But if this is a 400-year war, it must have a genesis event: a moment when the institutional DNA of the contending parties was first encoded, when the fundamental cleavage was first opened.

This article examines that moment. It argues that the Glorious Revolution of 1688—conventionally celebrated as a bloodless triumph of parliamentary liberty over royal absolutism—was in fact the critical juncture at which the English state was fundamentally reengineered to serve the interests of a new ruling class. That class, which I’ll define more precisely in Article III as the “Financialist” type, derived its power not from territorial sovereignty or productive capacity, but from the management of public debt and the extraction of financial rents. The institutional template created in London after 1688—a private central bank managing permanent public debt, a financial class fused with state power, a military repurposed for global commercial enforcement—proved remarkably durable and portable. It crossed the Atlantic with the American colonists, survived the Civil War and the Industrial Revolution, and was successfully relocated from London to Washington after World War II. Embroiling America in 80 years of debt enforcement conflicts and asset extraction and debt incurring wars Americans will be paying for across more than another century if Washington fails to prevail in the civil war against London.
...

=== End quote from Burlingame's Substack article ===

Burlingame's view of this history puts recent events in the Middle East (and elsewhere around the world) in a quite different light. Sometimes it might take someone acting more like a "King", to overthrow the tables of the debt masters in the temple.

When the "rule of law" places indebtedness at the root of financial, monetary, legal and military authority, then one might ask who has placed themselves as the primary creator of this debt, who has created the "world's reserve currency", aka the so-called "US Dollar", but which perhaps could more accurately be labeled, since the early 1900's, the "Banker's Dollar".

In prior civilizations, the King (or Pharaoh or whatever) could cancel debt if it became too oppressive of the people. Since the Glorious Revolution of 1688, this has no longer been allowed in the Empire that has grown out of the City of London. Whether it be for medical care, education, housing, transportation, roads, power, police, military, courts, ... we are all, from the poor to the wealthiest corporations and nations, in a constant struggle, whether within or to avoid, debt slavery ... all but a few powerful families and their (so long as they remain loyal) bankers and agents.

Perhaps the "real story" behind Epstein is more his role as a skilled financial agent of these families, than his role in the admittedly more horrific Satanic torture, murder and consumption of innocent children and babies.

The great wars and national divisions of our time, WWI, WWII, and the present wars, are instruments to inflame the emotions of us humans and thereby create and justify yet more debt.

Sometimes one must bring a gun to a gun fight. Sometimes it is not obvious (deliberately made so) who really started the fight (perhaps a third party, behind the curtain) and who is striving to end the killing, even when it takes killing to do so.

ThePythonicCow
1st March 2026, 21:58
An insightful quote from Burlingame's article posted above:

The Roman and Dutch-Venetian interests that sought to bring England back into the transnational fold understood a fundamental truth: before you can conquer a nation, you must first delegitimize its rulers.
I observe (admittedly more from the MAGA side of the aisle) a substantial effort, for the last decade and continuing, to delegitimize Trump. "They" know that must be accomplished, before they can fully reassert their dominance over the United States.