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Ernie Nemeth
3rd February 2011, 13:26
I'd like to start a conversation about something that came to me in a flash a few weeks ago.
What would it take to have true and lasting peace on this planet. What attitudes would have to change, what principles would we have to adopt to make it work.
Upon contemplation, this is what came to me:

THE CONSTITUTION FOR WORLD PEACE

All human beings are creations of One Source and thereby certain rights are bestowed upon them by virtue of birth alone. These rights shall be administered with the highest sense of honor and duty to ensure the equal, unbiased and fair treatment of all. To further ensure the granting of these rights it is declared that no individual, group, special interest lobby or any other sub-grouping, whether overt or covert, shall attain a proportion of any goods, property, chattel or contracts of any description greater than the sum of the individuals and their basic allotment would allow within those sub-groups until such time when all human beings have been allotted their basic needs according to the rights described herein.

All human beings by virtue of birth have a basic and fundamental right to happiness and freedom. To ensure the complete freedom to choose happiness: shelter, food, clothing, transportation, medical care, education, employment, and sundry items to facilitate the pursuit of entertainment, pastimes and hobbies that may be coveted from birth to death are deemed to be the right of every individual. All of the above shall be provided as best the human production capacity will allow.

All human beings have the right to total access to all information, without censure, restriction, exemption or omission.

All human beings have the right to the security of person and to whatever reasonable degree of privacy that person may wish to maintain.

All human beings have the right to dignity and respect at all times. No human being, for whatever reason, shall be held against their will, sanctioned in any way or otherwise subject to punitive measures.

All human beings are equal. No individual or sub-group shall have authority over any other individual or sub-group, without exception. All common decisions must be made by consensus, without exception.

All human beings have the right to anonymity. No human being or sub-group shall be singled out, distinguished, characterized, maligned or otherwise brought to the attention of others without their consent.

All human beings have the right to live, without exception.

All human beings are completely free to think, say or do whatever they wish, at any time, for any reason so long as the rights of all other individuals, as outlined above, are respected and upheld throughout.

All human beings have the right to come and go anywhere and everywhere at any time without restriction, provided all other rights discussed herein are observed.


I know it sounds naive. I know it seems impossible to implement. I know there seems to be no way to make a peaceful transition to such a radical ideology. But the point is that something like this has to be ready to be presented to the people when the collapse occurs or we will just pick up the pieces and continue on from where we left off. And that would only lead us right back to another catastrophe in the future.

9eagle9
3rd February 2011, 13:36
It's not Naive. A constitution serves a purpose of making an agreement to an ideal out of your own free will. No one forces you to abide by it. A constituition like the you posted avove should come naturally to us. If were ever allowed to be natural.

Consider it a sort of agreement. Even a sacred agreement. Anyone can volunteer to form the body of the constitution but one thing always remains the place. Here's the AGREED upon terms, either accept them or not. While the constitution may be fluid and open to negotiation if soemone really resists the precepts of it , forgetting THEY helped form the body of the agreement, they have the free will to go elsewhere.

In that way you are making the constitution and agreement with yourself. If one violates it they've violated their own precepts and no one else is to blame.

If people abided by the agreement they made out of their own free will, there would be no need for laws. Inevitably you will get someone who resents the agreement even though they helped to form it and that's fine. They are free to leave the agreement and the organization out of their own free will. And maybe that should be part of a constitution too.

Ernie Nemeth
3rd February 2011, 15:32
"In that way you are making the constitution and agreement with yourself. If one violates it they've violated their own precepts and no one else is to blame."

I really like how you put that. I was afraid that would not be recognized.

"If people abided by the agreement they made out of their own free will, there would be no need for laws"

exactly my view
Thanks

Ba-ba-Ra
7th February 2011, 22:23
I agree that we have to begin to think about these things, otherwise it will be the same thing with a different name or faces. Unfortunately, we have been brainwashed to believe that the idea of a Utopia is pollyanna and not realistic. So congratulations to you and Wade Frazier for beginning to put these ideas out there.

We are beginning to understand that in order to see it that you have to first believe it at a core level. I personally feel that we all need to begin to reprogram ourselves so that we can begin to believe that an honest, just and abundant society is possible.

I also truly believe that the Universe will be now supporting Unity consciousness, so it will be easier to let go of fear and lack.

Thanks Ernie and take off the glasses. This is such an open and heartfelt subject and the glasses make it appear you are hiding.

Lord Sidious
7th February 2011, 23:20
Hey guys, before you get too far with a constitution, go find the meaning of the word constitutor.

Ernie Nemeth
8th February 2011, 14:27
Hey guys, before you get too far with a constitution, go find the meaning of the word constitutor.

Hi, Oh Lord Sidius,
Constitution: The act of establishing, making or setting up; the mode in which a state or society is organized; the manner in which sovereign power is distributed; arrangement, composition, law, legislation, production, structure

Constitutor: individual or group that creates something, component of

I fail to see your point. However, if it is better to call it a declaration, a bill, a piece of legislation, or a hopeful or helpful suggestion, that is fine with me.
It is not its title that is important, it is the ideas and the articles it constitutes that does.

Thanks for the input.
Peace

Lord Sidious
8th February 2011, 15:19
Hey guys, before you get too far with a constitution, go find the meaning of the word constitutor.

Hi, Oh Lord Sidius,
Constitution: The act of establishing, making or setting up; the mode in which a state or society is organized; the manner in which sovereign power is distributed; arrangement, composition, law, legislation, production, structure

Constitutor: individual or group that creates something, component of

I fail to see your point. However, if it is better to call it a declaration, a bill, a piece of legislation, or a hopeful or helpful suggestion, that is fine with me.
It is not its title that is important, it is the ideas and the articles it constitutes that does.

Thanks for the input.
Peace

CONSTITUTOR, civil law. He who promised by a simple pact to pay the debt of another; and this is always a principal obligation. Inst. 4, 6, 9.

A Law Dictionary, Adapted to the Constitution and Laws of the United States. By John Bouvier. Published 1856.

http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Constitutor

Lost Soul
8th February 2011, 15:32
Selfishness kills all. Until we collectively eliminate it and substitute the universal will in its place, we'll always be in the same quandry.

Loki
8th February 2011, 16:51
I guess your theory is assuming the fact that we were put here with a good intention and not put here to be punished .. which has an equal possibility to be true ...

How do you know you haven't committed some kind of crime in a different form and this is the prison you have been sent to and the age you live to is your sentence.

Ernie Nemeth
8th February 2011, 18:39
Hi Loki,


I guess your theory is assuming the fact that we were put here with a good intention and not put here to be punished .. which has an equal possibility to be true ...

How do you know you haven't committed some kind of crime in a different form and this is the prison you have been sent to and the age you live to is your sentence.

I assume only one thing, really - that we are all of one source and so we all should share the same rights.
I can only know what my self feels. That I am in a prison? Perhaps, but if I am then it is of my own design.

Peace

Lord Sidious
9th February 2011, 02:16
I guess your theory is assuming the fact that we were put here with a good intention and not put here to be punished .. which has an equal possibility to be true ...

How do you know you haven't committed some kind of crime in a different form and this is the prison you have been sent to and the age you live to is your sentence.

That is a possibility that has crossed my mind on occasion.
But then you are the trickster, no?


Hi Loki,


I guess your theory is assuming the fact that we were put here with a good intention and not put here to be punished .. which has an equal possibility to be true ...

How do you know you haven't committed some kind of crime in a different form and this is the prison you have been sent to and the age you live to is your sentence.

I assume only one thing, really - that we are all of one source and so we all should share the same rights.
I can only know what my self feels. That I am in a prison? Perhaps, but if I am then it is of my own design.

Peace

An excellent answer Ernie.

Lefty Dave
9th February 2011, 04:16
Greetings Ernie,
enjoyed your post...and hope someday the ideals you shared will become reality here.

I wanna say 'don't hold your breath' , L O L, but I really don't want to spoil the moment...
they are such good thoughts...and everything begins with thought.
Thanks for yours.
Blessings

Ernie Nemeth
9th February 2011, 21:07
Hello Lefty Dave,

I'm turning blue in the face as we speak!

Please have a look at Wade Fraser's thread for an understanding of just how difficult it is even to concieve of such a lofty concept.
WADE FRAZIER : A Healed Planet (I was hoping that would show up as a link, but...)
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet

Given our present understandings in this society, of course such ideals are virtually impossible. But remember, the PTB are witholding a treasure trove of information that would in fact allow for us to expand our worldview to the point where it would be not only possible, but highly likely. Advanced humans already uphold many of these articles in their daily lives. I'm sure there are more than a few on this site alone.

Peace

Ernie Nemeth
9th February 2011, 21:11
Dear Ba ba ra,


Thanks Ernie and take off the glasses. This is such an open and heartfelt subject and the glasses make it appear you are hiding.

Took your advice. Thanks for the suggestion. I think you were right on with that one.

Peace

Ernie Nemeth
11th February 2011, 05:34
Hello Lost Soul,

You said:
Selfishness kills all. Until we collectively eliminate it and substitute the universal will in its place, we'll always be in the same quandry.

What if we turned that around: Selflessness uplifts all. Once we collectively create it and return to the universal will, we'll forever remain in peace and harmony.

How's that? Can you dream it, can you hold it your mind? Can you agree to share the idea with others? If you can, then we are well on our way to accomplishing what today seems like an impossibility. Not only is it possible, it is natural and it is normal. We have just been conditioned to believe otherwise.

Peace

9eagle9
11th February 2011, 12:58
Selfishness is a symptom of some sort of lack. Fear. Fear of not having needs fulfilled. Or needs have not been fulfilled. I really don't know that many truly selfish people. Granted the few I've encountered were self absorbed enough to be their own black hole..ha ha . But I'm not sure selfishness is to account for the worlds woes, as the people who express it are really just expressing the heart of the problem. Lack. Most of exhibit these symptoms seem to have basic needs fulfilled so there's a lack on an emotional level. So perhaps a plan of helping other peoples fear of lack. Helping cure the wounds they are carrying that gives them that perception can be cured. I know lots of people who want to help with that but are afraid to put themselves forward for fear of rejection or sounding polly anna.

Over generosity is not really an answer either. I've met far too many people who masked their self absorption with overt display of generosity to put people under obligation to them. A covert way of feeding the ego.

I like self centeredness myself.

9eagle9
11th February 2011, 13:10
I guess your theory is assuming the fact that we were put here with a good intention and not put here to be punished .. which has an equal possibility to be true ...

How do you know you haven't committed some kind of crime in a different form and this is the prison you have been sent to and the age you live to is your sentence.

If I thought that I'd have to wonder what sort of extreme woundedness is going on inside of me to make me think that I d need that sort of punishment. And if I were that wounded perhaps I'd attract that sort of punishment? People who carried buried guilt whether it was thier own or imposed on them walk through life expecting a punishment whether its deserved or not. Crime is a matter of judgment. Who gets to decide what is a crime and what isn't?

I'm curious how that perception rose that this is a prison and this time we live in is a punishment? And would that perception begin to generate a feeling of lack that would lead to the selfishness we spoke of. Me, personally, I couldn't veiw this point in time as a punishment unless I had an extreme attachment to the old order of things.

PHARAOH
11th February 2011, 13:12
Hey guys, before you get too far with a constitution, go find the meaning of the word constitutor.

Hi, Oh Lord Sidius,
Constitution: The act of establishing, making or setting up; the mode in which a state or society is organized; the manner in which sovereign power is distributed; arrangement, composition, law, legislation, production, structure

Constitutor: individual or group that creates something, component of

I fail to see your point. However, if it is better to call it a declaration, a bill, a piece of legislation, or a hopeful or helpful suggestion, that is fine with me.
It is not its title that is important, it is the ideas and the articles it constitutes that does.

Thanks for the input.
Peace

Ernie Nemeth, may want to consider aquiring a "Blacks Law Dictionary" remember when in a court room words have different meanings.

9eagle9
11th February 2011, 15:40
Lol. There's a certain truth to that . But since the courts don't use Black's Law terminology in its proper context, the general population is hard pressed to accept it. I'm thinking we need to become above the law. If you know what I mean.

Ba-ba-Ra
11th February 2011, 17:29
So, how to begin to visualize World Peace? ..... I think most of us on this forum understand how important "what we think and we say" are in our process of creating. But also, most of us forget this in our minute by minute experiences and exchanges with others.

For example: every time we say a utopian state is impossible - we are making that idea more concrete. On the other hand, it's been my experience that it's not enough to say "I believe in abundance for all and that world peace is possible" if you really don't believe it at a core level (because most of us now understand the 'biology of belief' and how it also effects our reality - see Bruce Liption videos). And it is difficult to believe in World Peace and abundance when the world we live in isn't reflecting that back to us. For example, it's hard to say I believe in abundance, and really believe it at a core level, when you've been struggling financially for most of your life and never getting ahead. Or it would be difficult for people living in 3rd World countries to even wrap their minds around those ideas when every day they are facing starvation and war.

I've played with this some and have found this thought works for many: If we can say in honesty "I want to get to the point where I believe and see that we all live in World Peace and abundance." So, if enough of us could think this and say this daily, perhaps this could have an effect. And eventually we could take it to the next level

We could dispute why we've been put here for a very long time. The important thing to me is not "why" we've been put here, but what we're going with that time. For example: Take a man in prison who was wrongly accused. He can spend that time hating the people and system that did this to him - or he can use that time reading, meditating and and trying to help shift the other inmates to make the place they are stuck in a more pleasant one.

9eagle9
11th February 2011, 17:40
Yepper, when we start feeling peace and unity within our selves we have something to draw and create and visualize from to project outwardly. How does one envision peace for others if they've never had it for themselves?


So, how to begin to visualize World Peace? ..... I think most of us on this forum understand how important "what we think and we say" are in our process of creating. But also, most of us forget this in our minute by minute experiences and exchanges with others.

For example: every time we say a utopian state is impossible - we are making that idea more concrete. On the other hand, it's been my experience that it's not enough to say "I believe in abundance for all and that world peace is possible" if you really don't believe it at a core level (because most of us now understand the 'biology of belief' and how it also effects our reality - see Bruce Liption videos). And it is difficult to believe in World Peace and abundance when the world we live in isn't reflecting that back to us. For example, it's hard to say I believe in abundance, and really believe it at a core level, when you've been struggling financially for most of your life and never getting ahead. Or it would be difficult for people living in 3rd World countries to even wrap their minds around those ideas when every day they are facing starvation and war.

I've played with this some and have found this thought works for many: If we can say in honesty "I want to get to the point where I believe and see that we all live in World Peace and abundance." So, if enough of us could think this and say this daily, perhaps this could have an effect. And eventually we could take it to the next level

We could dispute why we've been put here for a very long time. The important thing to me is not "why" we've been put here, but what we're going with that time. For example: Take a man in prison who was wrongly accused. He can spend that time hating the people and system that did this to him - or he can use that time reading, meditating and and trying to help shift the other inmates to make the place they are stuck in a more pleasant one.

Lord Sidious
11th February 2011, 19:45
Hey guys, before you get too far with a constitution, go find the meaning of the word constitutor.

Hi, Oh Lord Sidius,
Constitution: The act of establishing, making or setting up; the mode in which a state or society is organized; the manner in which sovereign power is distributed; arrangement, composition, law, legislation, production, structure

Constitutor: individual or group that creates something, component of

I fail to see your point. However, if it is better to call it a declaration, a bill, a piece of legislation, or a hopeful or helpful suggestion, that is fine with me.
It is not its title that is important, it is the ideas and the articles it constitutes that does.

Thanks for the input.
Peace

Ernie Nemeth, may want to consider aquiring a "Blacks Law Dictionary" remember when in a court room words have different meanings.

Thanks for that Pharaoh, most people don't realise there is such a language as legalese and that is what is used in law, not the local language.

Ernie Nemeth
12th February 2011, 16:57
Hi Pharoah,


Ernie Nemeth, may want to consider aquiring a "Blacks Law Dictionary" remember when in a court room words have different meanings.

I do not wish to contract with you. Maritine Law has no place here. There is only one law I recognize, and that is the law of the land. I am not a corporation, a company, or the strawman you want to engage and contract with.

Peace

Ernie Nemeth
12th February 2011, 21:54
Hi Lord Sidious,


He who promised by a simple pact to pay the debt of another

If, by a simple pact I could pay the debt of another (by another I guess in this context it would mean everybody on the planet) I most certainly would. Without hesitation. However, since there is no one else here that is a moot point.

If I had wanted to make sure that nobody could understand my words I could have used "legalese". But I did not want to confuse, I want to edify - to make clear. If anyone took these words into a court of law I would want nothing to do with it because they would then have no power over human beings.

I made certain to use the words "Human Beings" in every article for that very reason. These are not guidlines for "clever" people to find loopholes in - to turn it to their advantage. These are universal laws of the Heart.

Again, like above, I wish to make clear that I am not the Strawman that was invented by the PTB. I am a human being (notice the spelling of my name). If you want to capitalize my name and on my name then you are no longer talking to me.

Please, do not confuse my innocence and invulnerability with ignorance and weakness. That would be a mistake. And understand, I love you, the human being. I have absolutely no interest in your strawman.

Thank you.

Peace

Lord Sidious
12th February 2011, 22:06
Hi Lord Sidious,


He who promised by a simple pact to pay the debt of another

If, by a simple pact I could pay the debt of another (by another I guess in this context it would mean everybody on the planet) I most certainly would. Without hesitation. However, since there is no one else here that is a moot point.

If I had wanted to make sure that nobody could understand my words I could have used "legalese". But I did not want to confuse, I want to edify - to make clear. If anyone took these words into a court of law I would want nothing to do with it because they would then have no power over human beings.

I made certain to use the words "Human Beings" in every article for that very reason. These are not guidlines for "clever" people to find loopholes in - to turn it to their advantage. These are universal laws of the Heart.

Again, like above, I wish to make clear that I am not the Strawman that was invented by the PTB. I am a human being (notice the spelling of my name). If you want to capitalize my name and on my name then you are no longer talking to me.

Please, do not confuse my innocence and invulnerability with ignorance and weakness. That would be a mistake. And understand, I love you, the human being. I have absolutely no interest in your strawman.

Thank you.

Peace

Oh, I didn't assume you are stupid or don't know anything, but your post gave me an opportunity to raise an issue for the other readers.
Obviously, by your replies, you know more than the average man or woman on the subject and that pleases me.

trenairio
12th February 2011, 22:28
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9eagle9
12th February 2011, 22:44
Agreed. Ernie can come to court with me and defend me parking ticket. I'm rather tickled by his response myself.



Hi Lord Sidious,


He who promised by a simple pact to pay the debt of another

If, by a simple pact I could pay the debt of another (by another I guess in this context it would mean everybody on the planet) I most certainly would. Without hesitation. However, since there is no one else here that is a moot point.

If I had wanted to make sure that nobody could understand my words I could have used "legalese". But I did not want to confuse, I want to edify - to make clear. If anyone took these words into a court of law I would want nothing to do with it because they would then have no power over human beings.

I made certain to use the words "Human Beings" in every article for that very reason. These are not guidlines for "clever" people to find loopholes in - to turn it to their advantage. These are universal laws of the Heart.

Again, like above, I wish to make clear that I am not the Strawman that was invented by the PTB. I am a human being (notice the spelling of my name). If you want to capitalize my name and on my name then you are no longer talking to me.

Please, do not confuse my innocence and invulnerability with ignorance and weakness. That would be a mistake. And understand, I love you, the human being. I have absolutely no interest in your strawman.

Thank you.

Peace

Oh, I didn't assume you are stupid or don't know anything, but your post gave me an opportunity to raise an issue for the other readers.
Obviously, by your replies, you know more than the average man or woman on the subject and that pleases me.

Ernie Nemeth
13th February 2011, 18:37
9eagle9,
Tickle, tickle!

Seriously, Pharoah and Lord Sidious bring up a valid point. And maybe it needed to be addressed up front. For this I thank them. We do not want tricksters twisting our words around to mean something never intended. I take no offense at all. Although, I admit, at first I thought it was an attack. But after some contemplation and meditation I realized it was an opportunity to shed light on an area of discusion that most know virtually nothing about.

These articles I have listed here are only guidlines to illustrate how completely different a world at peace would be. In our present world our laws reflect our belief in differences, control and authority, revenge, hate, war, fear, pain, death... Notice that if the Constitution for World Peace were adopted these concepts would by neccessity vanish. As a matter of fact the articles focus on these negative ideas and shines the light of truth upon them.

Before they can be adopted, however, we must heal our ravaged minds and hearts. An important concept to this end is the idea of the Palladin or Light Warrior.

I believe, there is a person out there with the solution for every one of our problems and false beliefs. Each person has the key to heal a specific one. The idea of the Light Warior (I don't like that term because of its reference to WAR) is an ideal that each can aspire to. Unconditional Love is the guiding principal of such endeavors. One does not have to be a guru, floating above the ground in bliss to achieve moments of transcendence. It is in those moments (which everyone has experienced at one time or another) that such miracles of healing can occur.

I encourage everyone of good heart to find their areas of influence and reach for the highest principles they can imagine and just let it happen. Is it the dollar you can give to a street person? Is it a child that craves your attention? Is it a business practice you could alter? Is it your spouse? Whatever it is, let go and give! That is how we will heal the world - and ourselves.

And before we know it, these articles of the constitution will miraculously be upheld in our hearts without our even being aware of it. These principles, like I have already mentioned, are completely natural. We just need to deprogram ourselves, one kind act at a time.

Peace to All

9eagle9
13th February 2011, 19:54
No WAR is okay. Just flip the perception a little...

We
Are
Revolting

Take that as a verb or a adjective if you please (grin)

Lord Sidious
13th February 2011, 20:14
9eagle9,
Tickle, tickle!

Seriously, Pharoah and Lord Sidious bring up a valid point. And maybe it needed to be addressed up front. For this I thank them. We do not want tricksters twisting our words around to mean something never intended. I take no offense at all. Although, I admit, at first I thought it was an attack. But after some contemplation and meditation I realized it was an opportunity to shed light on an area of discusion that most know virtually nothing about.

These articles I have listed here are only guidlines to illustrate how completely different a world at peace would be. In our present world our laws reflect our belief in differences, control and authority, revenge, hate, war, fear, pain, death... Notice that if the Constitution for World Peace were adopted these concepts would by neccessity vanish. As a matter of fact the articles focus on these negative ideas and shines the light of truth upon them.

Before they can be adopted, however, we must heal our ravaged minds and hearts. An important concept to this end is the idea of the Palladin or Light Warrior.

I believe, there is a person out there with the solution for every one of our problems and false beliefs. Each person has the key to heal a specific one. The idea of the Light Warior (I don't like that term because of its reference to WAR) is an ideal that each can aspire to. Unconditional Love is the guiding principal of such endeavors. One does not have to be a guru, floating above the ground in bliss to achieve moments of transcendence. It is in those moments (which everyone has experienced at one time or another) that such miracles of healing can occur.

I encourage everyone of good heart to find their areas of influence and reach for the highest principles they can imagine and just let it happen. Is it the dollar you can give to a street person? Is it a child that craves your attention? Is it a business practice you could alter? Is it your spouse? Whatever it is, let go and give! That is how we will heal the world - and ourselves.

And before we know it, these articles of the constitution will miraculously be upheld in our hearts without our even being aware of it. These principles, like I have already mentioned, are completely natural. We just need to deprogram ourselves, one kind act at a time.

Peace to All

Speaking for myself, I wouldn't attack you or your posts Ernie, I like what you say.
Even if I didn't, I would prefer to question rather than attack, those are two different methods with very different outcomes.

9eagle9
13th February 2011, 20:32
The strawman, UCC, and Maritime statues that pose as constitutional law *thinly veiled only by our collective ignorance* would be a ground floor level for creating a platform of peace as our financial helplness I'm sure contributes to our collective anxiety. Or at least a form of prosperity until we get out of the nightmare of credit, money versus currency. UCC etc are not spiritual beliefs to be knocked around but a blurred perception in our commonly shared reality. We are all subject to it...until we decide not to be.

I have pretty much discharged all my imaginary debt in such a fashion and its rather amusing to pull the rug out from under the debt collectors. Stood me in good stead when they drug my car off under of a statue of 'new rules' and attempted to hold me hostage with it.

Ernie Nemeth
13th February 2011, 20:56
Lord Sidious,


Speaking for myself, I wouldn't attack you or your posts Ernie, I like what you say.
Even if I didn't, I would prefer to question rather than attack, those are two different methods with very different outcomes.

Yes, I agree. And your method has been highly effective. It was my false belief that lead me to judge you in the wrong light. For that I am sorry. That is why I took my time in answering. I wanted time to reflect on the truth, yours and mine. Thank you for the lesson.

Peace

Lord Sidious
13th February 2011, 21:01
Lord Sidious,


Speaking for myself, I wouldn't attack you or your posts Ernie, I like what you say.
Even if I didn't, I would prefer to question rather than attack, those are two different methods with very different outcomes.

Yes, I agree. And your method has been highly effective. It was my false belief that lead me to judge you in the wrong light. For that I am sorry. That is why I took my time in answering. I wanted time to reflect on the truth, yours and mine. Thank you for the lesson.

Peace

No need for apologies Ernie.

The Mad spirtualist
14th February 2011, 01:45
It is not the agreement that is usually the reason for pulling out of the agreement but the twisting of it for one's of gain or agenda. The US constitution is great we just don't abide by it. If everyone was truly held to it we would all have what we needed and wanted. Equality liberty freedom the whole nine yards.

9eagle9
14th February 2011, 01:56
Nope I don't think we've been entirely victimized. We had the choice to give up responsibility to our health to commercialized medicine, our choice to give up responsibility of our money and finances to banks. The responsibility of our souls to churches, and our choices period to advertising. We even went so far as to be anxiety rattled every April , anxious to pay our overseers for the privileged of being a slave. So no I don't blame externals sources without first examining the role I played in participating. Not to kick myself because you don't know until you know but to reaffirm that enough is enough. Once you know, then there's no reason to continue forward recklessly giving your power away.

Ernie Nemeth
14th February 2011, 18:17
The American constitution is an amazing piece of legislation, no doubt. Unfortunately, it is also based on the scarcity paradigm - with ownership and private property entrenched in its ideals - and equally unfortunate, the right to bear arms to protect these ideas. I drew heavily upon that constitution, so please do not get me wrong.

The Native Americans (not sure, I think the Iroquois especially) already had such a constitution in place and it was the model that Washington et al based their model on. Except the Native Americans did not even consider ownership as a precept. They believed in stewardship, which is an entirely different concept.

One further point. The American Constitution upholds the concept of Liberty. Although over the centuries liberty has become equated with freedom they are not the same thing at all. Liberty is granted by authority, freedom is upheld by the self, by the individual. Freedom is personal sovereignty, liberty is national sovereignty.

Autonomy of self is not possible in a scarcity based paradigm because one is always threatened by others who want what they have, for whatever reason.

Peace of Mind
14th February 2011, 18:32
If everyone went about their biz in a peaceful and respectful manner…”World Peace” would be easily obtainable. We can do what ever we want here…just don’t hurt anyone in the process. There are infinite ways to achieve what we individually desire; we just have to stop being lazy minded and selfish thinkers. With Love by your side…anything is possible, anything…

Peace

Ernie Nemeth
25th February 2011, 10:26
Hi
I would like to move this thread forward a little bit.
Peace of Mind: Everyone's business is Peace - they just do not know what that means, given the world we currently inhabit. For example: many people are working at jobs they do not like simply because it pays the most. I know so many folks in that predicament, as I'm sure you do as well. Now, it is impossible to be at peace if you are engaged in an activity you hate or would not otherwise do - if you felt you had a choice. But people feel forced into their jobs virtually against their wills. That is an untenable position and so it causes conflict and dis-ease. You cannot go through life with your head in the clouds, unmindful of your own plight and the plight of the world without disharmony in your soul/body interface - no matter how lofty your ideals may be. You cannot hide from the truth by burying your head in the sand, like an ostrich.
Work has to be expended in order for a goal to be achieved. And concerted effort is required for collective change to be realized. It is for this reason that a set of guidlines must be in place that all adhere to and freely agree with for a positive transformation to take place in our modern culture.
Today, our beliefs, the ones we all believe in, lead exactly to the world we see all around us. All the injustice, disproportionate wealth, poverty, starvation, war, political unrest, misery, pain, suffering, and death are caused by those collective beliefs. WE WANT THOSE THINGS BECAUSE WE BELIEVE THEM TO BE NECESSARY TO PERSONAL SURVIVAL. And so it is. If we did not want the aforementioned conditions we would change our beliefs. It really is that simple. Truth has a way of cutting through the BS, that is why it is often controversial. The truth to the uncouth is very often considered crass. All that means is, nobody wants to hear the truth when they want to believe a lie - that is what is called, yes ... self-serving interests. We all have them.
Somebody or a group of bodies must have designed this world to be this way long ago and sold it to the masses because the external world always only demonstrates the desired conditions of its constituents - our thoughts make this world.
So if we truly want a world of peace of love of equality of justice of ABUNDANCE we must change our thoughts, our beliefs. To do that we have to have the unadulterated information pertaining to our history and our ancient knowledge that has been hijacked by the PTB. Only then can we understand that we have been duped. Only then will we come to realize that our thoughts have imprisoned us and has made manifest this world of guilt and fear.

Ernie Nemeth
1st March 2011, 00:13
Hi,

Another point to fortify my contention that we manifest exactly what we want to experience:

Just look at how many pages have been devoted to CM - the crux of the divisiveness rending this forum apart.

Then look at the measely two pages of this forum devoted to peace.

There is no more to say.

Peace to all.

Ernie Nemeth
1st March 2011, 13:19
In fact there is much more to say - and the evil that is seeping through the cracks in this forum will not stop me from saying it.

Did you notice the sunrise this morning? Did you comtemplate the enormous ball of fire that spawned all life on this little speck in space we call Earth? Did you see the infinite sky last night and the tiny twinkles of light? Did you imagine how vast the universe must be for that perspective to be manifest? Did you pray last night as you fell asleep? Did you contact your gaurdian angel? Did you reach with your mind into the sky and feel the presence of the Watchers? Did you? Can you? Will you now?

Ineffable Hitchhiker
1st March 2011, 18:35
Hey Ernie,
thanks for the reminder. Loved your post!

Today I did notice
- that the sky was a deep azure that I hadn´t seen in a long while.
- the children on the playgrounds all yanked their "winter coats" off, as the temperature increased and had a ball in the sunshine.
- neighbours were outside, busy in their gardens.
- and best of all.....the birds...I heard a lot of singing and chirping! Had missed them over the winter.
It sounds and feels like spring is on it´s way back! Well, a hint of spring and it was, just simply....a wonderfu day!.
:)

Ernie Nemeth
4th March 2011, 01:19
Thanks for your post IH,

Yesterday, I took my own advice. I unhooked myself from this virtual world and actually went and connected with real people - in person.

They are a group of like-minded individuals, much like many members here in Avalon, who are searching for peace via personal truth. I dropped out of the group five years ago now.
Some of my experiences with them can be found on the site: Spiritual Oasis. They are such authentic souls.

My presence there last night caused quite a stir. I was welcomed back like the prodgical son. I invigorated their auras and fortified their commitment to their spiritual endevours. Each were moved to tears, each wanted to touch me, to hug me - and I them. Mind you, most were new comers I had never met. But in me they saw the strength of one who has done a great deal of work in cleansing and reconnecting with his spirit. The facilitator, an old friend and very powerful teacher, introduced me as an equal, a teacher in his own right! It was an incredibly cathartic experience.

I offer this account only as a reminder of what is true. Life is true. Love is true. Empathy is true. Peace is true! And truth is true. These are universal laws that cannot be assailed by fleeting concerns of body and ego. But they can be forgotten...

I, of late, had forgotten my own power - and the peace that is mine.

I cannot be attacked, unless I first attack myself. I urge others to find the truth in these words. Go out and spread the truth! Reconnect with others and share the truth that is yours. For you are The Truth, The Light and The Way! Do this in rememberance of your one true self. Teach the truth in order to learn the truth you teach.

Peace and Love to All!

Lord Sidious
4th March 2011, 01:25
Thanks for injecting some positivity into Avalon Ernie.

Ernie Nemeth
4th March 2011, 17:42
I wish the world was ready for peace. I wish I was ready. But I am not. Words are cheap. And for me they come easily. I know their Source but I am mocked for my efforts.
So be it.
This experiment now draws to a close.
Good luck to all.
And Peace

Ernie Nemeth
4th September 2011, 01:51
I must be honest, this post was the reason I came here in the first place. I was compelled.

Therefore, I wish to continue it, although I acknowledge there are other threads of a similar nature.

I have learned so much in the last six months here at Avalon - I am not the same person who first arrived on these shores with unabashed optimism and naivety. I have been tempered in the flames of public debate and scrutiny. I have felt the power of both sides. I have met my equals and learned there are those who surpass me. I have been humbled but my spirit has only grown in fortitude, strength and hope.

I do not care what anyone thinks of me anymore - but I am passionate about my point of view. I believe it is important. And I will not be silenced - especially not by my own hand.

I think that may be the true beginnings of peace - here in my heart and in my soul.
In my conviction.

Lord Sidious
4th September 2011, 01:57
I must be honest, this post was the reason I came here in the first place. I was compelled.

Therefore, I wish to continue it, although I acknowledge there are other threads of a similar nature.

I have learned so much in the last six months here at Avalon - I am not the same person who first arrived on these shores with unabashed optimism and naivety. I have been tempered in the flames of public debate and scrutiny. I have felt the power of both sides. I have met my equals and learned there are those who surpass me. I have been humbled but my spirit has only grown in fortitude, strength and hope.

I do not care what anyone thinks of me anymore - but I am passionate about my point of view. I believe it is important. And I will not be silenced - especially not by my own hand.

I think that may be the true beginnings of peace - here in my heart and in my soul.
In my conviction.

Me too Ernie.
The old me is back there somewhere, disappearing from view.
I too have learned a lot here, mostly good, some what not to do and say.
I too have found the road of peace and I am trying to negotiate it's twisting path now.
Good luck to you nugget.

Ernie Nemeth
4th September 2011, 21:01
Thanks m'Lord,

Yes, the twisting path of truth.
But is it the path that twists or is it our own understandings that lead us astray? And once we are lost, the path seems like it must must have veered away - not us, of course.
And so we see our otherwise straight path zig-zagging to keep up with the path of truth. Yet it is us who veer away in our uncertainty.

The path of truth is narrow and arrow straight.

Ernie Nemeth
14th September 2011, 23:36
There is a great thread on how to achieve world peace that I wish to link to here:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?30413-Your-In-Charge-Now-What-would-you-Do

Please have a view.

And Peace

David Hughes
14th June 2012, 05:20
Nice posts Ernie. Just stumbled upon your thread there now. Enjoyable reading.

In reply to your question in the first post;

"What would it take to have true and lasting peace on this planet?"

If that is the reality you want then you would start by recognizing that love is the law. Imagine if people currently living in vice, and dominated by hate, greed, fear, selfishness, anger etc, all started to live in virtue instead, and started practicing love, kindness, generosity, gratitude etc. The means become the end. Be the change you want to see in the world and all that.

Ernie Nemeth
17th June 2012, 02:51
Thanks, Tyler, for reviving my very first thread.
When I first came here I was sure this thread would sweep away all negativity and propel the way forward, uniting all Avalonians in a cause worthy of such a venerable bunch. Boy, was I wrong...
Yet, it was a necessary step in my evolution. There are many viewpoints and many rungs on the ladder of unfolding knowledge. Each rung has its merits, each has its pitfalls. None can be dispensed with, if one wants to reach the "goal" of everlasting truth - of absolute truth.
World peace is a big issue, with many branches of study.

One day I will reopen the discusion in earnest - when I have learned enough to give it the energy of certainty it deserves. That day perhaps others will be ready to come along for the ride.
For one thing is for sure, I cannot get there on my own - that much I have learned...
And the other is that almost everybody wants peace, yearns for peace, and knows in their hearts that their peace is dependant on WORLD PEACE.

markpierre
17th June 2012, 06:27
I guess your theory is assuming the fact that we were put here with a good intention and not put here to be punished .. which has an equal possibility to be true ...

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Punished by whom? Yourself? It has a zero possibility to be true.

David Hughes
18th June 2012, 04:06
Hey Ernie,

Yeah i saw the link for your thread when I was reading Wade's FE thread again there last week. I'm reading the whole thing again now from the start.

Love and virtue are the only ways out of this mess as far as i can see. How can we have peace if even some of the more 'intelligent' members on this forum are advocating violence and retribution towards bankers, the GC's, criminals and all the rest.

I'd be of the opinion that Universal karma takes very good care of evil doers without any humans having to intervene. Cause and effect is alive and well. What goes around comes around. You reap what you sow. If you were presented with lets say 10 of the highest ranking GC's, and were handed a gun, and you were told you could shoot them all and rid the planet of them once and for all, would you do it? I sure as hell wouldn't.

The first step to world peace as I see it is by committing acts of love on a regular basis, and by collectively living in virtue. When we as a species start doing that en mass and we might start getting somewhere.

Ernie Nemeth
19th June 2012, 00:03
Tyler, that is the most creative idea that has been posted in a long time, definitely the best on this thread, including my own!

Thank you so much. You might not believe it but it has made my day.

I've been wondering, why am I back at slaving for a buck? I had a little business but it just never seemed to go anywhere, never got off the ground. So I've been very poor for a long time now. But you know, it has been the most alive I've ever felt - I wish I had remembered to be happy more...

Now I'm at work and I ask my guides, my higher self, "Why am I here? What has made it my karma to endure another round of slavery?" And you know what I realized today? I am there to love those guys, to encourage them, to teach them by example. I laugh, I joke, I teach a little bit (not electrical, my trade, but about Life). And I keep my ears open, and my vision sharp for the telltale signs of fatigue or stress. When I see it, I go and lend a hand. Calm them, soothe them, humour them. Then I go back to my work...

Love is the only way forward, tempered by compassion and charity. God bless the lost and lonely, the confused and tired, the bewildered and ignorant. They give me a job to do!

You could hook up a hundred GCs to a thousand volts and hand me the switch and even if I wouldn't even have to watch them fry or smell their flesh burn, I still would refuse to throw the switch!

God bless you Tyler, my friend.
God bless us all!

David Hughes
22nd June 2012, 06:36
Good to hear Ernie.

I've 2 months left on my current work contract/prison sentence, and then the chains are cut loose and i'm off travelling again not knowing where or what my next ‘job’ will be. We'll see where the wind takes me.

I remember hearing David Wilcock and some other fella on with Kerry a few months ago, and he was imploring the listeners to commit one act of love a day. One act?? Why not raise the bar a bit higher? There are countless opportunities presented to us all in any given day or week in which we can practice virtue/love. Why not rinse and repeat those 'acts' until the point where you do them naturally with little or no conscious effort at all?

Consciously making the effort to commit 1 act of love a day is a great start, but we will really be getting somewhere when people have practiced it and mastered it to the point whereby you do it without even having to think about doing it. You then become it.

Limor Wolf
22nd June 2012, 08:33
I need to go to work, so I have no time to write, just to let you know Ernie and Tyler that you are beautiful people.
I have left my job three days ago, gave the notice, after nine full years of security in a place where I was appreciated .I need to do something else right now which I am not sure what it is... kind of a jumping and letting the universe catch me. I got the Q, and I feel at peace, I am going towords departing from the system more and more in my own slow step after step way.

Thanks for sharing the feelings of your heart, as you never know how it might hit a note with an anonymous reader... (me, for example :~)

Many blessings ~

David Hughes
25th June 2012, 03:38
Thanks for the kind words Limor! For me, if anything is worth practicing and trying to master in this lifetime on this planet, its virtue.

I've been in Asia 4 years and now Indochina is calling me - Vietnam, Cambodia, Laos and Thailand for starters. Ankor Wat and the jungles have been on my "to do" list for too long.

Oddly, the cheapest flights i can find from Bangkok back to Europe around the Christmas period have a layover in Cairo of all places, so i'm gonna stop off there for 3 days and check out the Pyramids. I'll be at or in the Great Pyramid on December 21st, 2012 by pure 'chance'. Happy days.

Have a good one.

Limor Wolf
27th June 2012, 16:40
Thanks Tyler, being in Cairo for the end of the year, a 'pure chance'... ye, right. Interesting since Kerry cassidy is organizing a trip to the Pyramids at that specific time as well, a friend and myself were thinking about going, but it's turning to be quite expensive.

You are a real wonderer, but I gues you know it. Your travels around the world have probably provided you with the kind of a 'street wise' wisdom and with the practical sense of knowing people. it sounds like you made 'the jump' many times, Trust is a main ingredient in this 'dish'. I am learning. I like to hermit at home and I learned up till now mainly from within, but times are changing and the requirements are to be more 'out'.

Enjoy your travels in Vietnam, Cambodia, Laos and Thailand. I am certain you will pick some 'diamond in the rough' experiences over there as well.


You take care!

Ernie Nemeth
17th November 2012, 18:43
And that's how World Peace is accomplished, one random act of kindness at a time...and by following your heart.

Robert J. Niewiadomski
17th November 2012, 21:38
Hi

Imagine everyone of 7 billions of Earth inhabitants do one random act of kindness today :) Would this be considered the World Peace? And after it everybody gets hooked :)

Ernie Nemeth
11th July 2013, 01:48
If any here have read any of my posts, besides my rants of course (I am only human), they might have noticed there is a certain theme to all my writing. They are all based on this list of rights:



THE CONSTITUTION FOR WORLD PEACE


All human beings are creations of One Source and thereby certain rights are bestowed upon them by virtue of birth alone. These rights shall be administered with the highest sense of honor and duty to ensure the equal, unbiased and fair treatment of all. To further ensure the granting of these rights it is declared that no individual, group, special interest lobby or any other sub-grouping, whether overt or covert, shall attain a proportion of any goods, property, chattel or contracts of any description greater than the sum of the individuals and their basic allotment would allow within those sub-groups until such time when all human beings have been allotted their basic needs according to the rights described herein.

All human beings by virtue of birth have a basic and fundamental right to happiness and freedom. To ensure the complete freedom to choose happiness: shelter, food, clothing, transportation, medical care, education, employment, and sundry items to facilitate the pursuit of entertainment, pastimes and hobbies that may be coveted from birth to death are deemed to be the right of every individual. All of the above shall be provided as best the human production capacity will allow.

All human beings have the right to total access to all information, without censure, restriction, exemption or omission.

All human beings have the right to the security of person and to whatever reasonable degree of privacy that person may wish to maintain.

All human beings have the right to dignity and respect at all times. No human being, for whatever reason, shall be held against their will, sanctioned in any way or otherwise subject to punitive measures.

All human beings are equal. No individual or sub-group shall have authority over any other individual or sub-group, without exception. All common decisions must be made by consensus, without exception.

All human beings have the right to anonymity. No human being or sub-group shall be singled out, distinguished, characterized, maligned or otherwise brought to the attention of others without their consent.

All human beings have the right to live, without exception.

All human beings are completely free to think, say or do whatever they wish, at any time, for any reason so long as the rights of all other individuals, as outlined above, are respected and upheld throughout.

All human beings have the right to come and go anywhere and everywhere at any time without restriction, provided all other rights discussed herein are observed.


I've stayed true to these priciples to the best of my abilities, in my writing, my thoughts and my interaction with others.
The reason I hold these ideas as sacred is that I observe how there is a push to have us believe we can:
a) reset this society from the inside and continue with business as usual
b) disseminate the truth despite the powerful forces that hoard knowledge for their own gain
c) solve our problems with technology; that human progress and evolution is all located on the physical plane
d) prosper only if we have leaders with authoritative and absolute control to implement whatever laws they deem necessary
e) and must let everybody live out their karma without interference - even if their lives are miserable (mostly an eastern concept)
f) wait for the aliens to land, clean up our mess and show us how to do better
g) ---------- (insert your own insight) -----------

Ernie Nemeth
12th July 2013, 18:31
The first thing we must realize is that this society is exactly where it intended to be. The society reflects the ideals of the individuals within it. It is not an accident we find ourselves more and more in a world that extends rights and privileges to corporations and considers them as super-individuals, usurping the needs of actual flesh and blood citizens.

Poverty and priviledge are bed buddies because that is what its citizens desire - it is not a mistake. Status and power require those without either. This should be obvious to anyone who can honestly reflect upon their own motivations.

The world is not helpless in the face of authoritarianism - it welcomes it. Those few who manage to make it to the top over the backs of those less fortunate become the wielder of the sword of despotism. And no one wants to rock the boat of priviledge in case they somehow manage to claw their own way to the top. They wish and dream to be in a position to enjoy the prestige of wealth. And so they put up with the abuse of power and hope they get a shot at lording it over others with mansions, servants, nannies, private jets and other perks of the rich.

Before we can advance to a stage where we might all enjoy the benefits of this society, we must change our overall beliefs and secret ambitions. We must stop pointing fingers at others, declaring they are the reason our society is heading towards decay. It is our deepest held fantasy of "success" as measured by wealth that propagates the inequities in the system we are all a part of. It is our fault, each of us are to blame. This society is not a game of monopoly, although the rich would have you believe it is.

The worst part of this mistaken belief is that by adhering to its principles we also agree to injustice (a highly corrupt judicial system), oppresion (the police state gaurding the property of the rich), and crime (as those with no hope resort to stealing, murder and organized gangs). Put another way, we believe the murder of our loved ones, world wars (and other more restricted wars), terrorism and inequality are but a small price to pay for the chance to be on the list of privilege; to have a shot at becoming rich and lording it over others we are willing to perpetuate atrocities on the rank and file.

This first principle is, therefore, only a transitional requirement to address the most fundamental flaw in the philosophy of our world. It will not be required further down the road when most will come to understand that peace and security comes with prosperity for all.


All human beings are creations of One Source and thereby certain rights are bestowed upon them by virtue of birth alone. These rights shall be administered with the highest sense of honor and duty to ensure the equal, unbiased and fair treatment of all. To further ensure the granting of these rights it is declared that no individual, group, special interest lobby or any other sub-grouping, whether overt or covert, shall attain a proportion of any goods, property, chattel or contracts of any description greater than the sum of the individuals and their basic allotment would allow within those sub-groups until such time when all human beings have been allotted their basic needs according to the rights described herein.


In another post I will address the notion of honor, duty, chivalry and responsibility in connection to the way we might advance beyond our primitive mindsets.

Ernie Nemeth
16th July 2013, 21:13
There is a word. It is a word that embodies almost exactly the mindset that settles upon someone in their time of service. Yes, it stems from a sense of higher purpose and responsibility and it is carried out with great conviction, seemingly in a state of profound knowing. It is that word that describes the quality of character that allows the recognition of the moment when one can and will intercede in exactly the perfect manner for the situation at hand. It is rather instinctual but it also contains a heavily weighted certainty of beneficence. It inspires the action of the chivalrous and the gallant, the hero. It is used a lot in fantasy novels of knights and dragons and wizards and their fearless deeds against impossible odds, and in many epic comic books. It is a word all would know but seldom use or hear in everyday conversation.

Is it the word ‘noble’? Possessing outstanding qualities, says Webster. A ‘noble gas’ is defined as: rare gasses that exhibit great stability and extremely low reaction rates. But the ‘noble savage’: innate natural simplicity and virtue, uncorrupted..., implies that these outstanding qualities are inherent in the noble savage but rather rare amongst his modern descendants. Should this not worry us? Should we not pause to consider? Where has the simplicity and virtue so natural to the noble savage gone? It seems the word noble is not quite the word but it does imply the existence of this insubstantial quality that we in the modern world have misplaced, for it cannot ever be entirely lost.

The noble savage says more about us than we of them. For if the savage is noble then civilization is pagan and complex while the natural is simple, innate and free.

What drives a person to lengths the average person would balk at and avoid? What strength of conviction would allow one to seemingly risk their own life, to pay no heed to their personal safety and to abandon ‘mere’ rational and ‘more’ reasonable alternatives? What makes one brave the most arduous task for the sake of some higher ideal, often beyond their ‘ken’?

Webster defines it as: strength of mind or spirit that enables a person to encounter danger with firmness. Mister Webster refers us to the word ‘wield’ to elaborate further: to deal successfully with, manage, control...to exert one’s authority by means of ---- valor.

Valor in its highest and only true sense is righteousness. Valor is purposeful, responsible, firm, knowing, beneficent, chivalrous, gallant, heroic, fearless, noble, rare, stable, active, natural, simple, strong, virtuous, pure, brave - morphed into a comprehensive whole, emanating from an unseen realm, originated by a largely unknown source, and wielded by the valorous.

Valor is to be wielded. To wield valor is to love and serve, not mindlessly adhering to rote and dogma but always with great reverence and heartfelt humility in peaceful action, in respectful harmony, in all creative expression.

Valor can only be wielded with certainty, or else it be only bravery. It is the conviction of purpose that guides valor straight and true. And there is no greater purpose than to set humanity free. Not free to elect your next president, free; not free to choose your future vacation destination, free; not free to pick your favorite brand of breakfast cereal, free. Real freedom to create and then recreate who you are: Free to come and go, free to speak or not speak, free from tyranny, freedom to associate, freedom to respect all life, free from restriction of any kind, free to define life and free to live that life. Freedom to imagine and manifest must stem from an equally comprehensive quality that ennobles and uplifts thereby transcending the all too frequent tendency toward egoism and its attendant bouquet of grotesqueries and depravities.

The double-edged sword of truth and the shield of valor are the companions of the noble of heart at their time of service. They are the weapons of the righteous. They are not creations of an individual mind but merely picked up and wielded in unique fashion for specific purpose. Truth and valor are all righteousness requires (almost, see below). The righteous just take up the cause. Often, the cause picks them. The cause of the righteous is always protected by the sword of truth and the shield of valor. Some serve for scant seconds, others for a lifetime, some but once and others many times. But none are ever without their companions while in service.

What need for weapons and shields unless there is a perceived villain? And that villain must have a hero in the form of a corrected vision without the villain’s interference. There must be a transition to something better. And that something better has to be protected. This is justice. The question, “What form of justice ensures peace?” will be the topic of the next post. A sneak peak at that future post might suggest that:

Justice is the armor of the valorous.

PurpleLama
16th July 2013, 21:18
Truth, valor, justice....

We are speaking of Honor, a forgotten element.

Ernie Nemeth
27th July 2015, 00:39
Honor, truly a forgotten element.

What use is valor without justice. And what is justice without honor?

Ernie Nemeth
29th October 2020, 13:36
Part II


It seems as though the ideas in this thread are perhaps a bit simplistic. This was intentional. It was meant to drive a discussion primarily about consensus. But the idea of consensus can easily be dismissed in this world of competition and victory. These are two concepts that would have died with the old order and as such are not compatible with the decrees in this article. Yet we must contend with how to get from here to there. For this purpose, there needs to be two things happen simultaneously.

First, resources have to be freed for redistribution. But it must be resources not needed for survival or basic subsistence. The only way to accomplish this redistribution is to establish inalienable rights to every person on the planet - equal rights. This in itself requires a reordering of priorities worldwide and a revaluing of wealth to replace GDP (gross domestic product). It would naturally start a discourse that might take a long time to sort through, yet it is the only way forward. And that way forward must begin with a bill of rights already in place that rights the intrinsic wrongs in our society in theory. Then the practical aspects can be reverse-engineered to suit the new charter of rights.

Second, in order to value correctly, a statement has to be made about the currency of wealth. If it were money, many would already be content and the world would be at peace. Obviously this is not what we observe around us. In fact, the correct currency is happiness because that is the measure of satisfaction for a sovereign. And we know what would make us happy in this world, so it might come as a surprise to learn that money does not confer happiness, freedom does.

If we did not know it before, we are learning right now that we are not at all free in this world as it stands today.

Once resources are freed and valuation corrected, the beginning of the transition can occur.

There are many considerations at this point, each with equal importance.
For instance there will be resistance by those who already have made this system work for themselves and they will feel cheated by the changes, after a lifetime of hard work and commitment. And rightly so.
There will be laws that violate the new charter and will have to be removed - actually all laws will have to be revisited, especially the punitive part, since there are provisions in the charter to protect individuals from prosecution, fines, and incarceration.
No one will have authority, and that can lead to chaos. It will be imperative to completely reorder education to focus on the new reality and to instill the new buzz words of the movement: truth, valor, justice, honor.

With this basic understanding in place and the transition raring to go there will be one very big problem that can only be alleviated by a new designation, a new profession: The Facilitator.

If the intention is to instill in each human being the dignity and status of sovereign, what means could be used to drive policies and implement strategies? If everyone is free, who runs the world?

The Facilitators. Common folk with integrity and common sense combined with fortitude and perseverance guided by the four components of such souls: truth, valor, justice, and honor. But primarily, these folks will be those that love life and have compassion for the suffering of others.

These facilitators will be bestowed with full authority over institutions and governments and will be able to implement policy changes in real time to help those in their charge attain sovereign status.

Such power cannot be wielded for long so a time period will have to be set before a reassessment must be made for each facilitator. Or perhaps a rotation might be the better option where facilitators serve for a term and then retire.

In any case, the facilitator has full power to accomplish any task set them. They can order institutions to follow their dictates and they can require government to act in support of any decision they might make. What they cannot do is violate any of the points in the bill of rights. This modifies their response parameters while allowing them wide leeway in modalities.

It is difficult to follow the convolutions and ramifications of the impact of this new class. It promises remarkable possibilities but that would depend on the quality of the facilitator. Most likely it would take a bit of time for the facilitator role to find its legs. But like in every other discipline, the cream would quickly rise to the top and serve as example for the rest.

The job qualifications of the facilitator are broad and cover every possible area of expertise. Certain types will be needed for various intractable situations, most likely taken from the ranks of those embroiled in the specific situation itself.

The idea of the facilitator comes from a simple observation. That there is always someone with the answer to every problem, it is just a matter of finding that often unassuming individual. Unassuming individuals often have no agenda and no ambition to rise through the ranks of mediocrity, preferring instead to help how they can in their unassuming roles. We will give them power to be a positive change for the better in the world.

And when the work nears completion, we will learn the final lesson of the transition: all sovereigns are facilitators, if they wish to remain free.


This thread is open for comments and discussion. Thank you.

Ernie Nemeth
10th October 2021, 17:02
Current affairs allows for a good contrast to underline how not to implement the required changes in our society.

The op listed ten articles of freedom. The articles sound communist in nature and perhaps they are. However, the articles are about freedom and happiness, with individualism as the cornerstone to its achievement.

It is impossible to dictate freedom, as current events highlight. And The Great Reset, if anything, is merely another means for the elite to gain more power and more money from the people. That is the opposite of freedom.

Let's just look at one article for clarity, shall we?


All human beings have the right to come and go anywhere and everywhere at any time without restriction, provided all other rights discussed herein are observed.

This statement is intended to illustrate how a free people should never be restricted in their movements because such restrictions limit freedom and can be used to leverage power, control, or privilege.

But if a peoples finds the need to emigrate en mass, that group is definitively not free to begin with.

The purpose of this thread was always about the deeper meaning behind the articles. The op was intended to shock a discussion that could move from the obvious to the more subtle by debate and sound observation.

Unfortunately, that discussion was derailed most likely because of the first two articles that sound exactly like a communist manifesto. Those two articles were always meant as the sounding board to that discussion that never happened.

It could have lead to the uncovering of the fact that a utopia on earth, where the people are free to live their lives as they please, requires a reallocation of resources and a dismantling of certain institutions that act as gatekeepers in many resource fields.

And from there it could have lead to deeper discussion. The articles were only meant as guidelines and there should be no emotional connection to them at all.

We have been taught that the political structure spans from communism on the one hand to fascism on the other, with democracy, libertarians and anarchists somewhere in the middle. This is so obviously skewed that it can make no sense in any meaningful way and so it disrupts rational thought - as it was intended.

The spectrum we have been taught is skewed so as to circle around back to the start without added comprehension. Without clarity the best that can be accomplished is circular reasoning, that establishes its own veracity by referencing its own existence.

This is why the articles seem to lean towards the left, in terms of the political spectrum. Yet nothing could be further from the truth.

Ernie Nemeth
23rd April 2022, 15:07
It could have lead to the uncovering of the fact that a utopia on earth, where the people are free to live their lives as they please, requires a reallocation of resources and a dismantling of certain institutions that act as gatekeepers in many resource fields.


Recent events and another thread has prompted a return interest in Peace and how to attain it.

The Green New Deal, Great Reset, Agenda 2030, Climate Change, are calling cards employed by various elite institutions and special interest groups such as the UN, WEF, Trilateral Commission, Davos Group, Bilderburg Group, and many others. They all agree on one thing: fundamental change is necessary.

Such an orchestrated planet-wide upheaval of society has never before been attempted, at least not as far as our sanctioned official knowledge would allow.

According to Wade Frazier, the trajectory of human society is primarily driven by available energy. The amount of energy reasonably accessible to each member of society is what drives change in what we would call a favourable direction. It impacts wealth, health, longevity, innovation, philanthropy, politics, social ethics, money, business, economic growth and many other areas of public and private concern.

The most abundant and cheap form of energy in this society, by orders of magnitude, is fossil fuels.

The plan of the global elites is to throttle global fossil fuel supplies in order to achieve parity with the cost of alternative, far less efficient, energy sources.

Manufactured scarcity is the corporate solution to most of its problems and consequently the source of many of society's most intractable woes.

By purposely dismantling the oil, gas, and coal sectors' transmission and logistical operations, the cost of every commodity is forced upwards. Yet it is not cost parity that enables alternative sources to compete with fossil fuels, it is availability that does.

In any case, the obvious tried-and-true method of manufactured scarcity is about to be implemented on a global scale, in full knowledge of the consequences.

Meanwhile, a manufactured media blitz has created an atmosphere of distrust and fear that has isolated, insulated, and divided society. This officially advocated unnatural bias is rooted in emotion and is fundamentally irrational. The resulting confusion and chaos is having a significant impact on our civil and social norms.

From an energetic viewpoint there would seem to be a connection between the available energy being drastically curtailed and the warping attitude of the individual in terms of civility; It's hard to be civil on an empty stomach.

The first step on the road to Peace is respect.
It should be and absolutely is obvious that any empty stomach is anathema to that first step.
Advocating hatred is also counter-productive.
Censure, of any kind, does not help.

Lying, colluding, planning, and executing global covert agendas without consent of the governed is tantamount to crimes against humanity and shows complete disrespect.

The rule of law must prevail. That has always been the way. It cannot be otherwise. An understanding of sovereignty is crucial to that end.

We are sovereign beings. It is from that fact alone that we derive our rights. It is from the fact that we are sovereign beings that we form alliances with other sovereigns in common bond, in solidarity. We form our bonds in agreement of our fundamental rights. In consensus we form sovereign territories and mark our borders. We defend our rights, we protect our rights, we acknowledge the right of all sovereigns to do likewise.

How can there be respect without an understanding of our fundamental nature?
These are the fundamentals of a new society.
The sovereign being has fundamental and inalienable rights.
Those rights are not negotiable, and never subject to change.

JackMcThorn
23rd April 2022, 15:49
I know it sounds naive. I know it seems impossible to implement. I know there seems to be no way to make a peaceful transition to such a radical ideology. But the point is that something like this has to be ready to be presented to the people when the collapse occurs or we will just pick up the pieces and continue on from where we left off. And that would only lead us right back to another catastrophe in the future.

"War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength." - George Orwell

Everything on this planet is cyclical over the short, medium, and long-term. That is not to say that everything is black and white in contrast, either. There are plenty of grey areas that indeed are cyclical as well.

When it comes to world problems, I think they are too enormous for each person. Even the leaders or representatives of people cannot get it right.

So I choose to have personal peace. I choose to pick my battles more carefully. I choose to be a contributor, if even in a very small way.

There is a slogan from decades ago; 'think global, act local'. I think this is sound advice. If your own house is in order, that indeed is a contribution. Recognizing what one can do and achieve is crucial to the whole. I cannot be consumed with anxiety by others who are learning to get their own house in order, but I can recognize the ones who are actually trying.

Ernie Nemeth
23rd December 2022, 18:24
To 'get one's house in order', depends on many variables and a whole lot of decision making. Those decisions will be based on the comprehensiveness of the data available. If the picture is big enough, the solution of 'think global, act local' looses its pertinence since the mechanism of everyday life, the rules we must all abide by and fall under, is entrenched and intractable. It is kind of like the native Americans maintaining that to win against the alien intruders it was merely necessary to wait them out and stay out of their way in the meantime. To 'just go about your own thing' is what has gotten us into this predicament, and it is what has always been the reason we suffer so.

To be sovereign requires constant vigilance.

JackMcThorn
23rd December 2022, 19:30
To 'get one's house in order', depends on many variables and a whole lot of decision making. Those decisions will be based on the comprehensiveness of the data available.

If one cannot get their house in order; how do you expect them to have any effect on world problems? Demonstrating peacefulness in the home and in your neighbourhood is certainly progress. Chaos in the home is not conducive to growth beyond the home. [america is riddled with chaos in the home.] If the many variables and decision-making are too much; this person has no business to be interested in world problems. I would also indicate that this person would be a hindrance in the larger scheme.


If the picture is big enough, the solution of 'think global, act local' looses its pertinence since the mechanism of everyday life, the rules we must all abide by and fall under, is entrenched and intractable. It is kind of like the native Americans maintaining that to win against the alien intruders it was merely necessary to wait them out and stay out of their way in the meantime.

I'm not advocating not to fight when it is time to fight. The native Americans had no chance. [See the Trail of Tears.] In some respects americans in general have no chance, even though they might have the numbers and that is because you cannot reach a consensus in due course the majority of the time. Getting people to agree is half the battle. If you cannot do that, the other half of the battle is pointless and will fail [which it does repeatedly]. The division in america is not as simple as only left v. right.

Regarding the fight: I visited Washington D.C. for a few weeks before I ended up leaving america. There are few restrooms available to the public [I drove around in a panic a couple of times]. Many gas stations do not have one, and if they do it may be broken. When a million people descend on D.C. for a protest, there is little to no facilities and I think this is by design. The people will have to leave at some point or it is going to get very uncomfortable. So my point is to get together and fight presents problems [some basic] that people are not willing to contend with in person. Even though a million is a lot, it is not enough in the scheme of 27o million adults.


To 'just go about your own thing' is what has gotten us into this predicament, and it is what has always been the reason we suffer so.

Convince the masses of the criteria by which to agree and plan in advance to take the action. [Iceland 2oo9, its been done quite nicely.] You will never get enough people to agree on the facts and deploy the required actions [mostly speaking from an american perspective but much of the turmoil in the world is still disorganized].


To be sovereign requires constant vigilance.

No one can be individually completely sovereign without an explanation of how to circumvent the law in the area in which they live, and provide for its legal and physical defence. The police won't listen to this person, the court will not listen to this person and the person stands no chance against a militarized police force or the military [but this really is a separate topic].

World peace really begins with a peaceful home. Millions of peaceful homes have their due effect on the global scheme. But you cannot show me millions of peaceful homes; mostly because of low EQ prevailing - even in america of all places.

Ernie Nemeth
25th December 2022, 06:09
America is the only place on earth with a government almost amenable to a sovereign. But instead of freedom, the more attainable goal of liberty was chosen as its model.

Liberty is about as good as it can get in this world at the present time.

Liberty is freedom, with certain restrictions.


Peace comes about in the presence of justice. This world is not at peace because it has no justice. The prejudicial treatment that passes as justice in today's world merely proves that there is rampant systemic corruption in most, if not all, of our institutions. Until this insidious systemic corruption is uncovered and brought into the public domain for serious consideration there can be no peace.

But in the meantime we can discuss the responsibilities of a sovereign being so that when the time comes we will be ready to defend our God given rights with the vim and vigor they deserve.

Ernie Nemeth
30th December 2022, 20:18
There is another way to look at the difference between liberty and freedom. It is also the reason why there cannot be sovereign beings so long as there are sovereign countries.

The politics in any country rides a line somewhere between the collective good and an individual's rights. This is the political spectrum, that ranges from communist to anarchist. The part of the spectrum that ranges from fascism to collectivism deals with the distribution of power between corporate and government control. So as one can see, the spectrum does not range from communism on the left to fascism on the right as we have been told. Communism and fascism always come as a pair, as corporations and governments vie for ultimate control. They lie on the same side of the spectrum. Their opposite is a form of government never before tried but the best we have as reference is something like the USA, a republic.

The Webster's dictionary has this definition of a republic:
- a government in which supreme power resides in a body of citizens entitled to vote and is exercised by elected officers and representatives responsible to them
- a government having a chief of state who is not a monarch
- a body of persons freely engaged in a specified activity

This is about as lax a definition as can be had. And there is a reason for that. The reason is that all forms of government impose a limit on freedom, therefore they are all practicing the same form of governance - dictatorship, a form of tyranny.

Some of these dictatorships in this world are time limited, others are not. But all are tyrannical at their core.

A republic has a special characteristic that makes it less tyrannical: the constitution and the bill of rights. Both are necessary elements of a government for the people - and not for the governing body or national business interests. The constitution outlines the sacrosanct areas of human activity that cannot be curtailed by governmental legislation or laws. The bill of rights outlines the god-given rights of all its citizens.

Yet with all its lofty ideals liberty is still anathema to freedom.

The ideal of liberty allows the state to form as the only sovereign, protected by arms and the threat of violence against any who would disagree. No person is free, but they do have inalienable rights. But those rights, even though acknowledged, are bestowed by the state, by dint of its claim of sovereignty.

Only a sovereign can bestow rights, no matter how lofty the ideal, no matter how pure the intent.

A sovereign claims rights, a libertarian has rights given them.

And so it is, in this world of semi-civilized beings only marginally beyond the label of barbarian.

The human condition is not refined enough to hold the obvious in mind. Instead, the human condition is still in survival mode for most. Their daily concerns are subsistence level, so their minds are filled with worry and fear.

This is not the mindset of a sovereign. But it does work well to perpetuate the sovereign status of the collective state.

Ernie Nemeth
6th April 2023, 19:12
This second part of the discussion about the constitution for World Peace is about specific examples illustrating how the articles have been violated and where the adoption of those rights would have led to different outcomes.

Even though the op states it is a constitution, it is more correctly called a bill of rights - The Sovereign Being Bill of Rights, or SoBBoR. The constitution would be derived from discussions about how to implement and protect the ten articles of SoBBoR.

Minus some pertinent but minor amendments, this World Peace document can be equated to the laws of Nature itself. In fact, it should be extended to include all life on Earth. There would have to be one small caveat added to protect all life: the sovereign beings of the planet must swear to the stewardship of all life on the planet. This is because only a sentient being can be sovereign and only a sovereign can bestow rights by extension of their own.



The first article is being violated in so many ways as the orchestrated dismantling of the 'free world' continues. Notice how certain groups are being allocated massive sums of money and resources well beyond what their collective allotment would allow. This is the most egregious afront of all because it disproportionately violates the rights of the least and the most vulnerable amongst us - the ones that cannot stand up for themselves, in many cases for many different reasons. It is a tragedy.

At the end of the second article there is a caveat that states: 'All the above shall be provided as best the human production capacity will allow'. The intention here is to highlight that production capacity must produce a surplus of those items, goods, and services that the sovereign (eventually, may desire, but at first) needs. This is the industry of a sovereign state: to supply and service the sovereign.
In the 'free world' today we see the exact opposite to this philosophy as supply chains are intentionally breaking down and oil production is brought to a screeching halt exasperating an already tettering economy.

Notice also that after the first two transitional articles #1 and #2, the very next article, #3, outlines the right to the access of information without impediment. Open access to information, via free speech, and to all debate on all topics without any restriction is vital to a sovereign because that is what they must base their decisions on, by themselves, free of entrainment.
It is the only way consensus can be achieved.

It is no wonder at all then, that the first three articles of the rights of a sovereign are under attack like never before.
Even without any rights actually having been proclaimed or claimed, the struggle over these vital necessities continues every day.
That is because those rights are fundamental whether they are used for the good of the state or for the good of the sovereign individual.

The commonsense rights of 'equal worth' and 'equal share' and 'equal access' are intrinsic values for any sovereign claim.
Whether those rights are upheld or withdrawn depends on which claim of sovereignty is accepted as valid.

It is truly solely up to the individual, whether they want to be classed as citizen or sovereign.

ozmirage
16th April 2023, 13:42
Based on the republican form of government, where all men have endowed rights (which include liberty and absolute ownership), it might be helpful to point out that liberty is not what you think.

WHICH LIBERTY?
According to American law, liberty has four types: natural, personal, civil and political. In general:
● Natural = absolute freedom (on one's own property or unclaimed land)
● Personal = right of locomotion (freedom to travel on public roads and waterways)
● Civil = permission from government (licenses, permits)
● Political = participation in government (voting, holding office)
The former two are endowed rights, the latter two are government privileges.

LIBERTY. 1. Freedom from restraint. The power of acting as one thinks fit, without any restraint or control, except from the laws of nature.
2. Liberty is divided into civil, natural, personal, and political.
- - - Bouvier’s Law Dictionary, 1856 ed.
...
NATURAL LIBERTY - The power of acting as one thinks fit, without any restraint or control, unless by the law of nature. The right which nature gives to all mankind of disposing of their persons and property after the manner in which they judge most consistent with their happiness, on condition of their acting within the limits of the law of nature, and so as not to interfere in the equal exercise of the same rights by other men. 1 Blackstone's Commentaries, 123,
- - - Black's Law Dictionary, Sixth edition, p. 919.

PERSONAL SECURITY: The legal and uninterrupted enjoyment by a man of his life, his body, his health and his reputation. 1 Bouv. Inst. n. 202.

PERSONAL LIBERTY - The right or power of locomotion; of changing situation, or moving one's person to whatsoever place one's own inclination may direct, without imprisonment or restraint, unless by due course of law. 1 Bl. Comm. 125.
- - - Black's Law Dictionary, Sixth Ed., p. 919

TRAVEL - Within the meaning of a constitutional right to travel, means migration with intent to settle and abide.
- - - Black's Law Dictionary, Sixth Ed., p.1500

"PERSONAL LIBERTY, or the Right to enjoyment of life and liberty, is one of the fundamental or natural Rights, which has been protected by its inclusion as a guarantee in the various constitutions, which is not derived from, or dependent on, the U.S. Constitution, which may not be submitted to a vote and may not depend on the outcome of an election. It is one of the most sacred and valuable Rights, as sacred as the Right to private property...and is regarded as inalienable."
- - - 16 Corpus Juris Secundum, Constitutional Law, Sect.202, p.987.

RIGHT TO LIFE : The right to life is a moral principle based on the belief that a human being has the right to live and, in particular, should not be killed by another human being.

"PRIVATE PROPERTY - As protected from being taken for public uses, is such property as belongs absolutely to an individual, and of which he has the exclusive right of disposition. Property of a specific, fixed and tangible nature, capable of being in possession and transmitted to another, such as houses, lands, and chattels."
- - - Black's Law dictionary, sixth ed., p.1217.

"OWNERSHIP - ... Ownership of property is either absolute or qualified. The ownership of property is absolute when a single person has the absolute dominion over it... The ownership is qualified when it is shared with one or more persons, when the time of enjoyment is deferred or limited, or when the use is restricted. "
- - -Black's Law dictionary, sixth ed., p. 1106

All men (in America) are born equal (before the law - none higher - thus at the highest status at law - sovereign), with Creator endowed rights that governments were instituted to secure. Among those rights are life, liberty (natural and personal), absolute ownership of private property, inherent powers, privileges and immunities.

Absent consent, American governments can only secure rights : adjudicate disputes, prosecute criminals, defend against all enemies, foreign or domestic.

Everything else is derived from consent of the governed.
- - - -
SUMMATION
Pursuant to the Declaration of Independence, all government instituted under its authority to secure the endowed rights of the people, have two jobs:
1) Secure Creator endowed rights, and
2) Govern those who consent.
Caveat - Consent waives job #1.
This is due to the citizen's pledge, spelled out in the Declaration, wherein the founders pledged their lives, their fortunes and their sacred honor (obedience) to the governments instituted to secure endowed rights of the sovereign people.

In short, no citizen has any endowed rights to life, liberty, nor property, since mandatory civic duties abrogate them.
The first generation of citizens were not pleased, and insisted on some guarantees which became the Bill of Rights. But in reality, it was a limitation on the government regarding privileges, that remained since all inherent rights were surrendered / waived.
Thus it is perfectly legal for government to order a citizen to train, fight, and die on command (militia duty), take a portion of his property (ad valorem taxes on qualified ownership of real estate), require his obedience to rules and regulations, and so on.


This may explain why the world's greatest propaganda ministry has erased any knowledge about the republican form of government, and replaced it with vile corruption like the UN Universal Declaration of Human Rights. That declaration is anathema to the Creator endowed rights of the republican form.

UN Universal Declaration of Human Rights only recognizes GOVERNMENT ENFORCED RIGHTS ("civil" rights) and imposes SOCIALISM (slavery and theft by government). And it does not recognize that individuals are sovereign over government, but can only be subject citizens of their sovereign governments.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Declaration_of_Human_Rights


https://www.un.org/en/about-us/universal-declaration-of-human-rights


The UNIVERSAL DECLARATION OF HUMAN RIGHTS is an Attack upon Sovereigns, Eradication of Endowed Rights, Abolition of Absolute Ownership of PRIVATE PROPERTY, Expropriation of Property and Imposition of Compulsory Labor for the Benefit of Others. Conversion of the privilege of Political liberty into an enforced “right.”

Ernie Nemeth
16th April 2023, 21:10
Thanks Ozmirage.

I'll have more to say about your post another time.

But for now:

Liberty is divided into civil, natural, personal, and political.
Freedom is not divided.
Liberty makes a mockery of a sovereign but that is not the point. In a world where freedom is unattainable, liberty is the only stand-in capable of at least paying lip service to freedom. And with but a few restrictions and slight of hand...replaces freedom.

Freedom stems from a state of mind. Liberty stems from the barrel of a gun.

And like always, the problem is one of justice...

Ernie Nemeth
28th October 2023, 16:47
Posted here: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?75297-Reform-the-United-Nations-&p=1583666&viewfull=1#post1583666


Yet maybe sentience is a shared condition.
Like a thought.

Maybe the thought of peace is only the beginning.
Maybe peace needs to be shared.

Maybe to share peace requires a dialog. The conditions for peace, the nature of peace, the results of peace must first be discussed.

And maybe peace needs to be taught by example to illustrate its effects.


Thought, word, deed.


Maybe you need these aligned to actually be sentient...
And maybe sentience does not come to the individual but to the collective.


Maybe peace must be shared in thought, in word, and in deed before sentience can arise.

bojancan
25th March 2024, 01:43
I am choosing this thread for this video... Yesterday I checked some work by Abby again and I found this video.. she did it a while ago... Excellent Abby! She is a courageous woman.. educated.. brilliant.. articulate.. fearless and principled!
I love and respect her for decades...

For centuries of suffering... I think it is time.. to end heartache and hatred....
Peace is the one and only option for the people... Enough means Enough.. suffering must end.. there are everywhere these moments we are living in....

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The original goal of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO), according to its first Secretary General, was "to keep the Soviets out, the Americans in, and the Germans down.”
Today, the Soviet Union is gone, the United States is dominant, and Germany is de-industrializing. Has NATO achieved its goals? If so, why does it still exist? And why did Fidel Castro call it “the most perfidious instrument of repression known to mankind”?

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shaberon
25th March 2024, 04:04
The original goal of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO), according to its first Secretary General, was "to keep the Soviets out, the Americans in, and the Germans down.”
Today, the Soviet Union is gone, the United States is dominant, and Germany is de-industrializing. Has NATO achieved its goals?


It has never not achieved this.

Germany has been stagnant since 1936.

You have to juggle some map re-draws to figure it out, but, the number of Germans living in a given area has not increased. Population growth is almost entirely been accountable by migrants.

It is in a kind of zero-sum game where they essentially trade German cars for Japanese ones.

American occupation has stunted it.

I would agree NATO is a tremendous obstacle to peace and should have been disbanded with the Iron Curtain.

Ernie Nemeth
5th June 2024, 19:31
Any war machine is an obstacle to peace.


The world is at war because the mind of man is at war. We see reflected back to us the same war that rages just behind our own eyes.
We are conflicted within, and so we see conflict without.

This topic cannot be proven from without. It can only be proven from within, for that is where the source of the conflict is.
No war needs to be fought, no bombs dropped, or bullets shot - just plain internal honesty. That is the hardest kind, and the easiest to ignore.

Some would argue, "that's easy to say, but I know people who will never be that honest with themselves".

Ultimately, that's not what scares people. In fact, that is merely transference because what truly scares them is not that someone else will become the obstacle to peace by refusing to be honest with themselves.
No, in fact, people are afraid of what they might find within themselves that serves as the true obstacle to peace.


The world our eyes see is the world of effects.
Everything outside must be reproduced inside to 'see' it - everything.
Without that mental picture, there is no outside world.

If the world is within as proposed above - who put it there?
Regardless of the content and how it got there, the perpetrator is personal.
We are the war we see, transferred and reflected back to us so that we can disown it.

Generalized:

Only you can bring peace, if peace is what you want to see.

ulli
5th June 2024, 19:41
Any war machine is an obstacle to peace.


The world is at war because the mind of man is at war. We see reflected back to us the same war that rages just behind our own eyes.
We are conflicted within, and so we see conflict without.

This topic cannot be proven from without. It can only be proven from within, for that is where the source of the conflict is.
No war needs to be fought, no bombs dropped, or bullets shot - just plain internal honesty. That is the hardest kind, and the easiest to ignore.

Some would argue, "that's easy to say, but I know people who will never be that honest with themselves".

Ultimately, that's not what scares people. In fact, that is merely transference because what truly scares them is not that someone else will become the obstacle to peace by refusing to be honest with themselves.
No, in fact, people are afraid of what they might find within themselves that serves as the true obstacle to peace.


The world our eyes see is the world of effects.
Everything outside must be reproduced inside to 'see' it - everything.
Without that mental picture, there is no outside world.

If the world is within as proposed above - who put it there?
Regardless of the content and how it got there, the perpetrator is personal.
We are the war we see, transferred and reflected back to us so that we can disown it.

Generalized:

Only you can bring peace, if peace is what you want to see.

It’s always a bit of both. That is the paradoxical part most people can’t get beyond.

However, most people do understand the rhythm of work and rest, and accept it.

Why not then also the ME and WE alternating?

Within and without.

BOTH

Ernie Nemeth
7th June 2024, 15:47
The post was directed at the prevailing philosophy of the Dadaists, Sartre, and Descartes, who were the main proponents of the materialist viewpoint - the viewpoint that advocates belief in science as god (the 'god' particle). It is a dead-end philosophy that dominates the 'intelligencia' of the world today.

My own understanding can be summed up in this recent excerpt from my free-style writing - just to keep up my writing skills.

"There is a resonant function hidden beneath the words that informs only through harmonious attenuation. These would include the syntax, the lexicon, the alphabet, as it relates to the specific language under consideration. In the broadest sense, a language is a set of rules for the intonation and assemblage of utterances such that it can facilitate commerce.

What is commerce but the exchange of information in a reliable fashion?



The world around us is a learned experience, taught to us in words. The language had to be learned. The experience had to be gained.

The world is a set of labels ingrained and hard-wired into our adult brains. It allows us to navigate the world in collective harmony, confident in our ability to catalogue and react efficiently to data in real time and equally confident that others do the same.

We would say we are all on the same page...



This resonant function is a standing brain wave probability transform; an integral biological algorithmic construct based on temporal experience. It provides the mental picture of the world. The beauty of this construct is that an update in experience in one area immediately collates and integrates the data globally due to the resonant function. Its drawback is that it is based on the past, therefore it relies on data that is always out of date and predictably incomplete."

and on the paradox:

"There is a necessary lag time between the tasks of collection, collation, and cognition of experience.

This lag time is the gap between outside and inside. It is merely a membrane, a gray area, a frontier, or neutral zone. It is where the opposites coexist, where the possible meets the impossible, and where logic and reason go to die. This is the realm of paradox.

It is in this undefinable space where identity resides. Being neither inside nor outside does not convey immunity from cause and effect, but due to the consequent confusion of authority it is the perfect environment in which perception can arise. Perception replaces reality in one principal factor, it misplaces authority.


Having misplaced authority, the chain of cause and effect is not broken in truth, but it must be broken and only seem intact if authorship is not recognized. It is to cover this paradoxical predicament that the relative becomes a substantive quantity with not only a philosophically established position, but actual relative physical coordinates fixed within a perceived frame of reference.

Perception is vision without insight, but without insight what is seen is open to interpretation by any relative authority."

Ernie Nemeth
11th September 2024, 17:51
Let's see if we can find some of the violations against the Ten Precepts to World Peace, that are ongoing in the world today.


Ignoring the incorrect usage of the first and second precepts, that violated the spirit of the precepts in general by elevating certain marginalized groups over others without care and forethought, thereby violating the rights of all.


It is quite apparent how the third precept, involving information and its dissemination, began the entire fiasco. Without the check the 'press' represents on the unbridled misrepresentation of the available facts, any crazy idea can gain credibility. Crazy ideas abound in today's world...


The fourth precept concerns security and privacy. Again, current events leaves no doubt that the public is far less safe and their privacy is virtually a thing of the past (especially with so many millions inviting Alexa and equivalents into their homes).


The fifth precept is about dignity and respect. It should have had a robust discussion to truly grasp its significance. Because it is the definition of those concepts and their acceptable limits that firmly establishes the fact that what we have today is a grotesque violation of its tenets. What are the limits of respect? When is personal dignity overruled by the common good? The results of this violation is obvious and in our face all over the western world.


The sixth precept is the concept of equality. But not the veneer of DEI equality. True equality, that is tempered by all the other precepts in equal balance. In true equality, consensus is not only possible but probable.


The seventh precept is perhaps the most violated of all, in today's world. Look at how many distinctions there are to mark one person from another. The labels are endless and always divisive. the world is burning down over this one!


The eighth precept, the right to life, is self-explanatory.


The ninth precept is about freedom in general and free speech specifically. How many times has free speech been violated in today's world? How many times has the rights of others been violated by unsubstantiated libellous remarks?


The tenth precept could surely have benefited from a discussion years ago, to clarify its immense importance: unrestricted movement anywhere on the planet. There cannot be such unrestricted movement without strict adherence to the other precepts - that's why this one was put at the bottom of the list.



Had there been such discussions then, in 2011, we could have had a framework from which to implement the changes the globalist wanted, but without their control network. We could have clarified the reason these ten precepts work so well together, if in harmony.

The solutions are not these universal rights, but they lead there. However, if there is no discussion, there cannot be solutions. The solutions come from open debate, that the ten rights allow a template for the parameters of that debate. One tempers the other. There is overlap. There is a give and take, But there is also, consensus.

The solutions are the consensus, by definition - if the dictionary referenced is from a higher, peaceful, civilized society.


I submit it was a wasted opportunity. It was certainly not the intended route those in power wanted to pursue. Perhaps that is why the importance of this thread was not realized.

IT PREDICTED EXACTLY, POINT FOR POINT, WHAT IS HAPPENING TODAY!
13 years ago...