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Gwen
6th February 2011, 08:11
Has anyone listened to Mel Fabregas' Veritas Show this week? He plays a phone conversation with Barry King on air, it is so sad and frightening to hear Barry. He cannot even remember Mel but there is much more to it, he contacted Mel last year and told him this was likely to happen. He had some very important information he was going to send but sadly never did. Poor Barry.

I was reading the Eva thread and tried to let her know to contact him but couldn't post on there due to my status.:(

Helvetic
6th February 2011, 09:33
You can listen to this conversation here starting at 6:00 min.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7CJNgyg5jUA


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RrY3nPqyWQM

str8thinker
6th February 2011, 11:44
This is a most disturbing story. Anyone who is in any doubt about the abilities of the PTB to exact retribution for disclosure should listen to this.

Celine
6th February 2011, 13:09
This is more then sad...

and...

A reminder to us all, the sacrifices and consequences, MANY in this game face.

but..

Because of peoples strength and devotion to the cause (changing time line and taking power out of ptb's hands)...

The game has changed

His pain and suffering are testaments to what Bill, Charles... and you... do every day , here.

The man I know...the heart that I know very well as Barry, would not change one thing of the consequences (except for the pain his loved ones feel) he suffers, because he knows the game to well.

Eva is quite aware of all that goes on with Barry as they are very close.

I believe Barry was not to happy that Mel shared the phone call... for this reason (and others) I wont listen to it but please dont let that stop you from listening...all should hear.

With all my heart to his,
I love you Barry,
celine

Calz
6th February 2011, 14:31
This is more then sad...

and...

A reminder to us all, the sacrifices and consequences, MANY in this game face.

but..

Because of peoples strength and devotion to the cause (changing time line and taking power out of ptb's hands)...

The game has changed

His pain and suffering are testaments to what Bill, Charles... and you... do every day , here.

The man I know...the heart that I know very well as Barry, would not change one thing of the consequences (except for the pain his loved ones feel) he suffers, because he knows the game to well.

Eva is quite aware of all that goes on with Barry as they are very close.

I believe Barry was not to happy that Mel shared the phone call... for this reason (and others) I wont listen to it but please dont let that stop you from listening...all should hear.

With all my heart to his,
I love you Barry,
celine

Wow ... I have been debating for the last 30 minutes whether or not I should respond to this.

Those here for a long time don't recognize my "name" but I, like others here, have been on the outside looking in for quite some time. As a perceived "newbie" I do not wish to sound disrespectful. Have been a member of Veritas for many months (not yet in the forum) and listened to both Barry's interviews twice.

All I want to say is echoing Celine in that all should hear this.

Helvetic
6th February 2011, 16:20
This is more then sad...

and...

A reminder to us all, the sacrifices and consequences, MANY in this game face.

but..

Because of peoples strength and devotion to the cause (changing time line and taking power out of ptb's hands)...

The game has changed

His pain and suffering are testaments to what Bill, Charles... and you... do every day , here.

The man I know...the heart that I know very well as Barry, would not change one thing of the consequences (except for the pain his loved ones feel) he suffers, because he knows the game to well.

Eva is quite aware of all that goes on with Barry as they are very close.

I believe Barry was not to happy that Mel shared the phone call... for this reason (and others) I wont listen to it but please dont let that stop you from listening...all should hear.

With all my heart to his,
I love you Barry,
celine

So Céline, in this case you don't have a clue what's going on, so please stop writing your nonsense here. Thank you.

Calz
6th February 2011, 16:27
This is more then sad...

and...

A reminder to us all, the sacrifices and consequences, MANY in this game face.

but..

Because of peoples strength and devotion to the cause (changing time line and taking power out of ptb's hands)...

The game has changed

His pain and suffering are testaments to what Bill, Charles... and you... do every day , here.

The man I know...the heart that I know very well as Barry, would not change one thing of the consequences (except for the pain his loved ones feel) he suffers, because he knows the game to well.

Eva is quite aware of all that goes on with Barry as they are very close.

I believe Barry was not to happy that Mel shared the phone call... for this reason (and others) I wont listen to it but please dont let that stop you from listening...all should hear.

With all my heart to his,
I love you Barry,
celine

So Céline, in this case you don't have a clue what's going on, so please stop writing your nonsense here. Thank you.


Okay ... I'll bite as another obviously "clueless one" ... care to elaborate???

VERITAS
6th February 2011, 16:44
I believe Barry was not to happy that Mel shared the phone call... for this reason (and others) I wont listen to it but please dont let that stop you from listening...all should hear.

With all my heart to his,
I love you Barry,
celine

Hello Céline,

Let me chime in and say that I requested and received authorization from Barry before I released that telephone conversation to the public. As a matter of fact, I withheld it for over a month, and only shared it at my forum. I would not have shared it otherwise.

I just wanted to make sure everyone is clear on this. This was not done to sensationalize or exacerbate Barry's situation, but to share it with those who have followed his threads in the multiple forums for the past few years, and only after Barry agreed.

Would you care to elaborate as to where you're getting this information regarding Barry "not being happy" about its release?

Cheers,

Mel

Celine
6th February 2011, 16:56
All threads and posts have been remouved... I cannot find the quote for you.

You are correct, this is hearsay at this point..

I am sorry I did not mean to infer anything from your actions... Mel, I spoke from my heart...you and I do not talk but I am sure you are very aware of what I am.

My protective nature leads to to not want to be part of the deterioration of a man that most have no idea about..

The game has changed, and the seasoned players are also changing..some leaving.

The ones left on the board, are trying to do their best to be better.

Dont forget that please...

I am tired of wearing Cloaks...and can someone remove the daggers please.

From my heart to yours Mel,
love,
celine

¤=[Post Update]=¤



This is more then sad...

and...

A reminder to us all, the sacrifices and consequences, MANY in this game face.

but..

Because of peoples strength and devotion to the cause (changing time line and taking power out of ptb's hands)...

The game has changed

His pain and suffering are testaments to what Bill, Charles... and you... do every day , here.

The man I know...the heart that I know very well as Barry, would not change one thing of the consequences (except for the pain his loved ones feel) he suffers, because he knows the game to well.

Eva is quite aware of all that goes on with Barry as they are very close.

I believe Barry was not to happy that Mel shared the phone call... for this reason (and others) I wont listen to it but please dont let that stop you from listening...all should hear.

With all my heart to his,
I love you Barry,
celine

So Céline, in this case you don't have a clue what's going on, so please stop writing your nonsense here. Thank you.

You can dissagree without being Insulting helvetic.


I think i'll bite my tongue..instead of yours

anikohu
6th February 2011, 16:59
This is so so upsetting. I had to stopped several times.
Thank you Gwen and Helvetic for the post!!

VERITAS
6th February 2011, 17:04
I am sorry I did not mean to infer anything from your actions... Mel, I spoke from my heart...you and I do not talk but I am sure you are very aware of what I am.
No problem at all Céline. I was just curious to know if my authorization to release the telephone call, all of a sudden, had changed without my knowledge.

Very best wishes,

Mel

anikohu
6th February 2011, 17:05
Please CELINE ! THIS TREAD IS ABOUT BARRY. LET NOT START TO BE ABOUT YOU!
"WITH ALL DO RESPECT"

Calz
6th February 2011, 17:10
Please CELINE ! THIS TREAD IS ABOUT BERRY. LET NOT START TO BE ABOUT YOU!
"WITH ALL DO RESPECT"

Fine.

Might I request you "oldeez" take this pm or else provide a "oldeez to newbie" translator???

I mean ***NO*** disrespect to anyone ... but this is not helpful.

Barry's main thread was hidden here from non-members so regardless of how long I or any other "outsider" have been here you need to open up or take it private ... please???

Celine
6th February 2011, 17:13
Please CELINE ! THIS TREAD IS ABOUT BERRY. LET NOT START TO BE ABOUT YOU!
"WITH ALL DO RESPECT"

Absolutly , i agree...thank you for shoutin that so loudly..

hat is why i pm'ed the two people involved.. instead of talking about it here..

but if people would like to air their feelings about me..i suggest you do it in private.

No need o be rude.

Fredkc
6th February 2011, 17:15
I believe the topic of discussion is Barry King.

thank you,
Fred

PS: Celine was expressing concerns about Barry.
She considers him a friend, and after speaking to him off and on for 2 years, I do as well.

Barry is a good man, in a tough place. I wish him all the best.

Richard
6th February 2011, 17:32
Please CELINE ! THIS TREAD IS ABOUT BERRY. LET NOT START TO BE ABOUT YOU!
"WITH ALL DO RESPECT"

Why is it when someone utters the words "with all due respect" they stop showing any?
Respect is a mandatory guideline of this forum, if one wants to offer all due respect one should endeavor to show it.

Moemers
6th February 2011, 17:37
So, can someone please summarize in case people don't have the time to listen to this?

kudzy
6th February 2011, 17:44
Quote from Veritas:

.... As a matter of fact, I withheld it for over a month, and only shared it at my forum...

But Spiritwolf (aka Barry King) last posted here at PA on Jan 30th, when Bill gave him 7 days off the forum. http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?12285-Is-this-becoming-the-all-Charles-forum&p=115137#post115137

What's happening? This doesn't add up. I'm confused.

My heart goes out to Barry, I hope he is OK.

Calz
6th February 2011, 17:50
Quote from Veritas:

.... As a matter of fact, I withheld it for over a month, and only shared it at my forum...

But Spiritwolf (aka Barry King) last posted here at PA on Jan 30th, when Bill gave him 7 days off the forum. http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?12285-Is-this-becoming-the-all-Charles-forum&p=115137#post115137

What's happening? This doesn't add up. I'm confused.

My heart goes out to Barry, I hope he is OK.

Exactly :clock:

We come here in search of truth ... not more hidden paradox??? :help:

bashi
6th February 2011, 18:01
I think this post from Barry says it all:

"James, what I'M doing is wrong? No no. Let me put this openly for you and all here to see. Currently I am working with a very large group of individuals, professionals, credible, vetted whistleblowers whom are fed up waiting for Dr Greer to make a forwards move. As a group we are planning global full disclosure which will entail dragging the scientific and academic communities into the 21st century. We plan global media coverage. What has been voiced as a major concern to the group is a few individuals whose claims are not as credible, not verified or substantiated in any way. These claims can harm our movement and taint the picture for global media announcement. Since around 2008 your disclosures have veered off to levels that the group find impossible to comprehend and tolerate should global media begin showing disclosures. Another cause for grave concern is Aaron McCollom in the USA. You are both very similar. The group strongly feels that the information you keep stating you are being asked to disclose is coming from sources determined to undermine the disclosure movement. Your sources are seen as detrimental to truthful disclosure and need be checked. You can carry on by all means but you will not be called upon within the real disclosure movement and warnings from the group to global media given. From a friend I hope you take this advice on board. Implement or ignore, its your choice. There are debunkers and true skeptics out there that will tear your claims to shreds. From a father figure to a son, take care with what you are told to post by these 'sources'. Regards, Barry"

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?1676-Michael-Prince-James-Casbolt-Disclosures&p=52161&viewfull=1#post52161

It is all very sad, but this is the real state of affairs in respect of disclosure...

.

Celine
6th February 2011, 18:05
Good quote bashi..

definetly Barry has been on the ball for quite some time.

The support he needs comes from many directions..
including all the people expressing love and care for him

JDM
6th February 2011, 19:19
Can someone give me some background on Barry?

I know he is a member here, and was "Relieved" for a while. I have read bits and pieces over time, but can someone point me to thread or give me a quick summary of him or his story?

Thanks.

Helvetic
6th February 2011, 19:53
Thread Barry King (Camelot Forum) (http://camelotforum.com/index.php?option=com_kunena&func=view&catid=58&id=117&Itemid=147)

Questions for THEWATCHER (http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=4106) old Avalon Forum

JDM
6th February 2011, 19:56
Thread Barry King (Camelot Forum) (http://camelotforum.com/index.php?option=com_kunena&func=view&catid=58&id=117&Itemid=147)

Questions for THEWATCHER (http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=4106) old Avalon Forum


Ahh thanks for that.

I remember a little bit more now. I just needed a refresher.

Lita
6th February 2011, 23:52
A point to be made here... Barry is banned from Avalon for a week and maybe forever who knows.. Barry can't have his say...I think all of the Barry files have been removed..

I find it funny that people are now saying all of this when he was ripped apart earlier here on this forum...

I won't say with respect as I don't have any here.

JDM
7th February 2011, 02:37
A point to be made here... Barry is banned from Avalon for a week and maybe forever who knows.. Barry can't have his say...I think all of the Barry files have been removed..

I find it funny that people are now saying all of this when he was ripped apart earlier here on this forum...

I won't say with respect as I don't have any here.

Bill said he was welcome to come back anytime he wants or whenever he is ready now.

Star Gazer
7th February 2011, 02:51
I hope Barry (Spirit Wolf) comes back; he provides balance to this community.

Stargazer
7th February 2011, 03:23
Please CELINE ! THIS TREAD IS ABOUT BERRY. LET NOT START TO BE ABOUT YOU!
"WITH ALL DO RESPECT"

Why is it when someone utters the words "with all due respect" they stop showing any?
Respect is a mandatory guideline of this forum, if one wants to offer all due respect one should endeavor to show it.

You know Richard...That sounds like a veiled threat....Nice to see and read that some things don't change.

Your wife tends to hold the dove of love in one hand and a brier of thorns in the other.....

And we all know it's crap that Barry was banned...We are all still watching
With all respect......SG

Celine
7th February 2011, 03:31
Your wife tends to hold the dove of love in one hand and a brier of thorns in the other.....



Balance is everything.

If you have something to say to me...use the private message function...if you dont want to do that...perhaps it would be best not to air dirty laundry publicaly.


Insincere respect is wasted here.



Just my two cents...

Stargazer
7th February 2011, 03:38
Your wife tends to hold the dove of love in one hand and a brier of thorns in the other.....



Balance is everything.

If you have something to say to me...use the private message function...if you dont want to do that...perhaps it would be best not to air dirty laundry publicaly.


Insincere respect is wasted here.



Just my two cents...
It was worth my time to write the truth out in the open...

Well worth it...Peace Avalonians

Celine
7th February 2011, 03:44
What truth...that i have two sides to me?? please...


Can you get back on topic..

Barry is here...it would be great to here from him

Beth
7th February 2011, 03:47
Back on topic or this thread will be closed. If you have issues, use the PM feature as to not distract others from the issue at hand. Thank you.

Richard
7th February 2011, 03:55
We are all still watching
Got something to say? show some backbone and send me a PM.
Keep watching, you and your friends haven't seen anything yet.


As for Barry, His ban was for 7 days to cool off, it lifted several hours ago and is free to return. his threads are gone by his request.

Lita
7th February 2011, 04:16
A point to be made here... Barry is banned from Avalon for a week and maybe forever who knows.. Barry can't have his say...I think all of the Barry files have been removed..

I find it funny that people are now saying all of this when he was ripped apart earlier here on this forum...

I won't say with respect as I don't have any here.



Bill said he was welcome to come back anytime he wants or whenever he is ready now.

Ok so that is what Bill said...fine...now
How would you feel being a whistle blower contributing to this forum only to be treated like crap and then banned...hey even a week can you see that he just might not want to come back here... Barry is respected, he was beaten, had his-memory taken away... and the Spirit wolf material is no longer available here..I see they left the ..Watcher material up in the old archive...and now he is told he can come back here...would you in his position...edit...yes Barry requested his folder be taken down.

He might come back that is up to him.. but I think if somebody put their life on the line and then gets kicked in the teeth if it was me I would be back....but that is me.

If people on this forum are going to talk about respect then show some to all of the members and maybe stuff like this wouldn't happen.

Burke
7th February 2011, 04:28
You are all such wonderful, beautiful people and above this, do not let confusion become an excuse to vent the frustrations it brings onto those you love.

Open up to what you feel you are missing, own it to understand it.

Peace

Snowbird
7th February 2011, 04:50
Has anyone listened to Mel Fabregas' Veritas Show this week? He plays a phone conversation with Barry King on air, it is so sad and frightening to hear Barry. He cannot even remember Mel but there is much more to it, he contacted Mel last year and told him this was likely to happen. He had some very important information he was going to send but sadly never did. Poor Barry.

I was reading the Eva thread and tried to let her know to contact him but couldn't post on there due to my status.:(

Yes, I heard that phone conversation on Veritas this evening. I do hope that Spirit Wolf recovers fully and completely from this attack. My healing thoughts and prayers are going out to he and his family.

Gwen
7th February 2011, 08:04
Has anyone listened to Mel Fabregas' Veritas Show this week? He plays a phone conversation with Barry King on air, it is so sad and frightening to hear Barry. He cannot even remember Mel but there is much more to it, he contacted Mel last year and told him this was likely to happen. He had some very important information he was going to send but sadly never did. Poor Barry.

I was reading the Eva thread and tried to let her know to contact him but couldn't post on there due to my status.:(

Yes, I heard that phone conversation on Veritas this evening. I do hope that Spirit Wolf recovers fully and completely from this attack. My healing thoughts and prayers are going out to he and his family.

Mine too. I'm relatively new here but have always thought that Barry King was a likeable, feet-on-the-ground, ordinary people's person, and although the subject he was talking about was shocking and distressing to some, he is intensely believable. Mel was very sensitive and respectful and I had the impression of an kindly adult talking to a child...I think that's what I found most shocking.

I don't know anything about any bad feeling on this forum, I'm a bit surprised about that too and hope starting this thread didn't open any old wounds. If so I'm intensely sorry. We have to stick together, and put personal feelings aside sometimes. Can we send some pure, untainted healing energy to Barry, as Snowbird suggests? Nothing else is real but love, and love can move mountains.

ace
7th February 2011, 08:40
Quote from Veritas:

.... As a matter of fact, I withheld it for over a month, and only shared it at my forum...

But Spiritwolf (aka Barry King) last posted here at PA on Jan 30th, when Bill gave him 7 days off the forum. http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?12285-Is-this-becoming-the-all-Charles-forum&p=115137#post115137

What's happening? This doesn't add up. I'm confused.

My heart goes out to Barry, I hope he is OK.

Hello to all.

Please forgive me, I do not know Barry King, only picked up bits and peace's here and their. I to am a little confused by this. First I will say, I understand we should not talk about things we don't understand. so I will respect that and not go to deep in to this.

My observations are purely from the out side. no sentiment attached.

The first thing that raises a red flag for me is, how does a man who has lost his memory

agree to put his telephone conversation on the air? when earlier in the conversation

he says to Mel, i don't think i will give information to you like this, but rather by email.


Why would a man who has no idea who he is talking to on the phone i.e Mel,

then go and agree to publish it to the world?

My second point; as someone has pointed out, Barry Kind was in fine fettle here

before he was un subscribed.

I would like to reiterate, I am not here to be unsympathetic to Barry or anybody.

I am here for truth.

Something is not quite right here.

My gut intuition (and after all that is what we are all told to follow)
based on the content of Barry's last post, his words is
Their might be a little "attention seeking going on here"

I am aware that might up set Barry's following here.
So I will reiterate, take in to consideration, I do not know Barry and i am just
looking at the situation, the dates don't add up.

Ace

Whiskey_Mystic
7th February 2011, 09:12
This phone interview put a real chill in me.

It doesn't frighten me because I'm just not important enough for anyone to bother with. My own mission is a quiet and humble one or has been so far. But this is a reminder that there are risks and a reminder that those who have a high profile in our community deserve our respect; even the ones who make mistakes or whom we disagree with. This is not a game. Sometimes I see posts that make me think that the poster hasn't grasped that this is not some internet "let's pretend" roleplaying game. Like kids who have found a book of magic. I don't mean to sound negative. My heart goes out to Barry and his family. I hope his memory comes back.

Humble Janitor
7th February 2011, 09:14
Forgive me, but I thought that Barry King was dead?

Or did I read it wrong?

Timeline jump?

¤=[Post Update]=¤



This is more then sad...

and...

A reminder to us all, the sacrifices and consequences, MANY in this game face.

but..

Because of peoples strength and devotion to the cause (changing time line and taking power out of ptb's hands)...

The game has changed

His pain and suffering are testaments to what Bill, Charles... and you... do every day , here.

The man I know...the heart that I know very well as Barry, would not change one thing of the consequences (except for the pain his loved ones feel) he suffers, because he knows the game to well.

Eva is quite aware of all that goes on with Barry as they are very close.

I believe Barry was not to happy that Mel shared the phone call... for this reason (and others) I wont listen to it but please dont let that stop you from listening...all should hear.

With all my heart to his,
I love you Barry,
celine

Wow ... I have been debating for the last 30 minutes whether or not I should respond to this.

Those here for a long time don't recognize my "name" but I, like others here, have been on the outside looking in for quite some time. As a perceived "newbie" I do not wish to sound disrespectful. Have been a member of Veritas for many months (not yet in the forum) and listened to both Barry's interviews twice.

All I want to say is echoing Celine in that all should hear this.

I wish I could but unless there's subtitles or a transcript, I am left out once again.

Speaking of, I will save this point for a new thread.

Jean-Luc
7th February 2011, 11:02
I did take the time to listen to the 20 min or so interview of Barry King by Mel from the Veritas talkshow (Starting talking at 6:00 in the first audio). And I was moved.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=7CJNgyg5jUA#
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RrY3nPqyWQM&feature=player_embedded

Although I have just skimmed through the original Bary King's material on youtube (of which I had no prior knowledge) and then into some of his posts on both Avalon and Camelot forums, I found this telephone conversation most telling and I would encourage forum members to listen to it.

To me, the extent (and the speculative way) to which Barrys' memory seem to have been obliterated quite recently, deserves attention.

In any case, although this whole story is quite sad, it may casts a very peculiar light on the very value of Barry King's material, even though he seems to be saying today (if I understand well) he has had enough of all this and now wants to move on. Well he seems to have been helped to do so in quite a traumatic way.

The question then might be : why now ?

Agape
7th February 2011, 15:48
Has anyone listened to Mel Fabregas' Veritas Show this week? He plays a phone conversation with Barry King on air, it is so sad and frightening to hear Barry. He cannot even remember Mel but there is much more to it, he contacted Mel last year and told him this was likely to happen. He had some very important information he was going to send but sadly never did. Poor Barry.

I was reading the Eva thread and tried to let her know to contact him but couldn't post on there due to my status.:(

Thank you , thank you Gwen, Mel and everybody. Mel knows of me so if he needs to contact me he can. Eventhough there's not much I can say on the record without Barrys consent because there's official investigation to the events covering very large space of organisations, interests and parties and related information .


Barrys former deployments, public disclosures, my own data and what else . At the end what can you do here for anyone except releasing information and debating it.


There's an official investigation to the assault he's suffered on Jan 5th and it's in process .

SPIRIT WOLF
7th February 2011, 17:21
Its nice up here on the wall

Swami
7th February 2011, 18:07
Its nice up here on the wall

Hi Barry,

Hows life....?

Bill Ryan
7th February 2011, 18:20
Its nice up here on the wall

Barry, welcome back.


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SPIRIT WOLF
7th February 2011, 18:30
I have to make it perfectly clear, only here as support and assistance to my dear friends, not by choice but loyalty to those. I am silent as my pic states in all other respects.

Gajanana
7th February 2011, 18:40
Hiya Barry, I'm glad to see you well enough to rejoin the forum.

:yo:

Calz
7th February 2011, 18:43
I have to make it perfectly clear, only here as support and assistance to my dear friends, not by choice but loyalty to those. I am silent as my pic states in all other respects.

:welcome: :welcome: :welcome: :welcome: :welcome: :welcome: :welcome:

I really need to get this sticky key fixed on my damn keyboard!!!

Barry you don't know me.

I have followed what you have shared and simply want to say thank you and hope you are well.

Astra
7th February 2011, 18:44
Welcome back, Barry. :) Great to see you here again. I believe sometimes silence speaks louder than words.

Love to all! :)

Inelia
7th February 2011, 18:47
Barry, so glad to "meet" you. And that you are back! My hand extends in friendship.

Burke
7th February 2011, 18:49
I am very happy to see you back Barry

Agape
7th February 2011, 19:35
Much thanks and prayers that the situation has chance to improve ..

It looks like two very silent witnesses here then ;)


Wonder if some of the old threads on The Watchers board could be reinstalled unless that's against common sense and Barrys wishes ..

:hug:

Steven
7th February 2011, 20:03
Hi,

Well, do we have any proof, any sign, anything else than Barry's words to let us know that Barry did in fact loose his memory?

Up to now, the sequence of events are something like this:

1. He told Mel that he might loose his memory.
2. He loose his memory and talks with Mel.
3. He recovers his memory.

Is it another distraction, again? I am very skeptical on this one, again :)

Namaste, Steven

str8thinker
7th February 2011, 20:36
3. He recovers his memory.

I haven't seen any evidence of that yet, posted by Barry or anyone else. Has this happened?

Also, the "Part 2" of the videos posted in the 2nd post in this thread only appears to be the first hour, which is freely available. The 2nd hour of this talk is subscription-only. Anyone have a link to it, which appears to contain the real "meat" of Barry's disclosures?

Agape
7th February 2011, 21:01
Hi,

Well, do we have any proof, any sign, anything else than Barry's words to let us know that Barry did in fact loose his memory?

Up to now, the sequence of events are something like this:

1. He told Mel that he might loose his memory.
2. He loose his memory and talks with Mel.
3. He recovers his memory.

Is it another distraction, again? I am very skeptical on this one, again :)

Namaste, Steven



You can have a word from close friend if you wish .. proving an absence of something is usually difficult.

Likewise, if you 'lose your mind' profoundly , it will be difficult for you to describe what has happened ..
even if others will note that 'something has happened'.

I have to be thankful that Barry recalls something and is able to use his mind to endure the situation, very much not to his liking I can assure you.


In the meantime, how much do you know on what has happened...


Saying 'I don't know' is often the lesser evil. Sometimes not.


:angel:

Nenuphar
7th February 2011, 23:06
Welcome back, Barry :wave:

Gone001
7th February 2011, 23:09
.............

SPIRIT WOLF
7th February 2011, 23:12
Hi,

Well, do we have any proof, any sign, anything else than Barry's words to let us know that Barry did in fact loose his memory?

Up to now, the sequence of events are something like this:

1. He told Mel that he might loose his memory.
2. He loose his memory and talks with Mel.
3. He recovers his memory.

Is it another distraction, again? I am very skeptical on this one, again :)

Namaste, Steven
When you are in full receipt of facts and timeline please do say whats on your mind, never judge on half measures or half facts, thankyou

Steven
7th February 2011, 23:24
[QUOTE=Steven;127164]...In the meantime, how much do you know on what has happened...

Not much, but I am not a personal friend to Barry, so I rely on my own perception (which could well be wrong). But I have doubts.

Namaste, Steven

Steven
7th February 2011, 23:30
When you are in full receipt of facts and timeline please do say whats on your mind, never judge on half measures or half facts, thankyou

I judge all the time, I do not condemn. Do you have any medical records on what happen? Is Stewart Swerdlow your real name, mine is Steven Ouellet.

Namaste, Steven

SPIRIT WOLF
7th February 2011, 23:31
Please feel free to doubt, free country, so far, no agenda here, none of this was originally supposed to be made known outside of family, colleagues, it was unfortunate close friends allowed it out. Its been adequately stated around the forums, the where's and why's and I care not to continue answering questions. Be well.

Steven
7th February 2011, 23:33
Please feel free to doubt, free country, so far, no agenda here, none of this was originally supposed to be made known outside of family, colleagues, it was unfortunate close friends allowed it out. Its been adequately stated around the forums, the where's and why's and I care not to continue answering questions. Be well.

I respect it perfectly. Be well.

Namaste, Steven

SPIRIT WOLF
7th February 2011, 23:40
Thankyou Steven

aikya
7th February 2011, 23:42
Hi Barry,

I'm so pleased to see you back. :)

Thank you. And I do so hope your recovery is progressing well.


:welcome:

SPIRIT WOLF
7th February 2011, 23:44
Family, close friends and colleagues have me rushing thru a crash course of sorts, I'm doing ok thankyou

aikya
8th February 2011, 00:05
I'm glad you have such support.

My heart goes out to you and I truly, deeply wish you well.

slipknotted
8th February 2011, 00:08
man, i wish him well hope he is going to be ok.

modwiz
8th February 2011, 00:18
Welcome back Barry. I do hope this go around treats you better and the dialogue shifts to questions to you that people can learn from.

What light and deflection I might send your way is done with sincerity.

Snowbird
8th February 2011, 00:19
Barry King aka Spirit Wolf is hopefully alive and quite well at this writing. That is my wish and my intention for him.

Ace, I agree with your post up to the point where you mention "attention seeking" as I don't think that this would be his style. He appears to be beyond that. As chilling as that phone call is, to me, it is more a case of threats. But then, I don't know about this. I am guessing here.

Oh my heavens, Barry, I did not see your post. It is so good to see you here.

modwiz
8th February 2011, 00:46
Ye gods, the disrespect shown here by some posters makes me feel like I've fallen out of the thread into a proctologists office.

People have your back Barry and you seem to have your center now.

I hope a meaningful and useful dialogue for us will be forthcoming from you.

Not sharing your depth of knowledge and experience to those not fortunate enough to have exposure to it would be like having a tanker of water in the desert and not distributing its contents.

cowens66
8th February 2011, 01:31
Be Well Barry, ;)

I was unable to respond to your last pm before you left the forum. With your permission I would like to take that opportunity as soon as time permits me.

SPIRIT WOLF
8th February 2011, 02:12
When you are in full receipt of facts and timeline please do say whats on your mind, never judge on half measures or half facts, thankyou

I judge all the time, I do not condemn. Do you have any medical records on what happen? Is Stewart Swerdlow your real name, mine is Steven Ouellet.

Namaste, Steven

I am not Stewart no, as for medical records these are not a matter for general public, the investigation is in house by a security team and as the whole thing is deemed of no public concern unfortunately you and everyone else will not be privy to any details. Those that know of my past will realise what this means, re my past work and those that take care of me and my family. I have said too much already. Sure you will be curious but I cannot help you further. Drop it, with all due respects. Barry

MargueriteBee
8th February 2011, 02:48
Good to see ya Barry.

Calz
8th February 2011, 03:21
3. He recovers his memory.

I haven't seen any evidence of that yet, posted by Barry or anyone else. Has this happened?

Also, the "Part 2" of the videos posted in the 2nd post in this thread only appears to be the first hour, which is freely available. The 2nd hour of this talk is subscription-only. Anyone have a link to it, which appears to contain the real "meat" of Barry's disclosures?

Barry was not the "main guest" for this week's Veritas show. Mel just put up the phone call during the "news" portion so you did not miss anything regarding Barry in the 2nd hour.

aikya
8th February 2011, 03:35
Ye gods, the disrespect shown here by some posters makes me feel like I've fallen out of the thread into a proctologists office.



I couldn't agree more.

Gwen
8th February 2011, 08:13
3. He recovers his memory.

I haven't seen any evidence of that yet, posted by Barry or anyone else. Has this happened?

Also, the "Part 2" of the videos posted in the 2nd post in this thread only appears to be the first hour, which is freely available. The 2nd hour of this talk is subscription-only. Anyone have a link to it, which appears to contain the real "meat" of Barry's disclosures?

Barry was not the "main guest" for this week's Veritas show. Mel just put up the phone call during the "news" portion so you did not miss anything regarding Barry in the 2nd hour.

Well worth signing up as a member though if you possibly can, its cheap and definitely worth it. There is generally much more in the second hours in most cases and you get to hear the show a day early. Both Veritas and the Kevin Smith Show are run on listener sponsorship only, which means we get to hear much more than on the 'funded' shows and you can ask any topic-relevant question you like of the guests, they will both try to get as many in as possible. I wouldn't want to lose them and be stuck with some govt moderated lame 'alternative' show. I always remember the Steven Greer show on Coast. In one of the breaks a voice came on Dr Greer's phone telling him to change the direction of the conversation or the show would be stopped. Hmm. Mind you I like George!

I was listening to a recent Coast show on YT and a lady rang to say she'd found some documentation relating to all the earthquakes, droughts and flooding etc being caused by officialdom - she said she'd tried to tell several radio shows (mentions one in particular that you would think would jump on it) but they refused to go near it. You learn as you go I suppose.

However Barry has been on the Veritas show before, if you look through the past shows section you should be able to find him and even if you can only listen to the first hour, its really interesting.

ace
8th February 2011, 11:18
Barry King aka Spirit Wolf is hopefully alive and quite well at this writing. That is my wish and my intention for him.

Ace, I agree with your post up to the point where you mention "attention seeking" as I don't think that this would be his style. He appears to be beyond that. As chilling as that phone call is, to me, it is more a case of threats. But then, I don't know about this. I am guessing here.

Oh my heavens, Barry, I did not see your post. It is so good to see you here.

My opinion that Barry was "attention seeking" was based on all of his posts here on the 30th of January, why they caught my attention, Barry was very unhappy with the Charles material, even stating he felt "this forum could not accommodate 2 whistle blowers", lets call a spade a spade here, "he spat his dummy out" then proceeded to demand all his post were removed.

I distinctly remember that night thinking to my self, "wow this guy is coming across a little insecure", why is he acting like this.

Fortunately or unfortunately, depending on your view, I am a truth seeker,i don't take things on face value. I like to question, dig a little. A crime? not at all, a healthy way of living.

As is the catch fraise for Mel "we don't wont to believe, we wont to know"

Make of me what you will, I didn't sign up to deliberately go out of my way to attack, discredit or upset anybody, far from it, I signed up for the journey to expand and explore, debate, interact with like minded people who find some common ground with others through visions of creating a better way, for us all to live here.

Barry is now stating he did not go and report this to the police.
He is claiming their is no crime report or record.

I have Two members of my close circle who are longtime serving members of the police force, honest people who take their work seriously as a life mission.
(not all police are bad,)
IF this horrendous alleged attack took place then those responsible should be brought to justice. Absolutely.

Once again I will exercise my right to freedom of speech, in a respectable calm manner.
I don't think it's true. I have a strong feeling this was a contrived manipulated scenario by Barry King in order to draw more attention to himself.
I will be more than happy for Barry King to prove otherwise.

The truth will out, I have no doubt about that, it's always the way.

Regards
Ace

Gajanana
8th February 2011, 11:45
Barry King aka Spirit Wolf is hopefully alive and quite well at this writing. That is my wish and my intention for him.

Ace, I agree with your post up to the point where you mention "attention seeking" as I don't think that this would be his style. He appears to be beyond that. As chilling as that phone call is, to me, it is more a case of threats. But then, I don't know about this. I am guessing here.

Oh my heavens, Barry, I did not see your post. It is so good to see you here.

My opinion that Barry was "attention seeking" was based on all of his posts here on the 30th of January, why they caught my attention, Barry was very unhappy with the Charles material, even stating he felt "this forum could not accommodate 2 whistle blowers", lets call a spade a spade here, "he spat his dummy out" then proceeded to demand all his post were removed.

I distinctly remember that night thinking to my self, "wow this guy is coming across a little insecure", why is he acting like this.

Fortunately or unfortunately, depending on your view, I am a truth seeker,i don't take things on face value. I like to question, dig a little. A crime? not at all, a healthy way of living.

As is the catch fraise for Mel "we don't wont to believe, we wont to know"

Make of me what you will, I didn't sign up to deliberately go out of my way to attack, discredit or upset anybody, far from it, I signed up for the journey to expand and explore, debate, interact with like minded people who find some common ground with others through visions of creating a better way, for us all to live here.

Barry is now stating he did not go and report this to the police.
He is claiming their is no crime report or record.

I have Two members of my close circle who are longtime serving members of the police force, honest people who take their work seriously as a life mission.
(not all police are bad,)
IF this horrendous alleged attack took place then those responsible should be brought to justice. Absolutely.

Once again I will exercise my right to freedom of speech, in a respectable calm manner.
I don't think it's true. I have a strong feeling this was a contrived manipulated scenario by Barry King in order to draw more attention to himself.
I will be more than happy for Barry King to prove otherwise.

The truth will out, I have no doubt about that, it's always the way.

Regards
Ace

Jeez Ace! In a way I understand the healthy scepticism, but if you had read Barry's post as the watcher on the former avalon, plus other threads he has been involved in, you will see that thare is more to this than can be related in such a short post as this is going to be. I really dont think the police would be of the slightest help whatsoever and attention seeking is not how I would describe anything Barry has written - Charles on the other hand promises everything and tells very little, keeps them hanging on for more... that's attention seeking. I'm not disregarding charles, but he has a great take on P.R. Barry has just told stuff, plain and simple. I havnt made my mind up about anything, like you I love to learn. Barry's info goes back years, it ought to be read by anyone seeking information about disclosure etc...
Keep cool Ace :cool:

ace
8th February 2011, 12:32
Barry King aka Spirit Wolf is hopefully alive and quite well at this writing. That is my wish and my intention for him.

Ace, I agree with your post up to the point where you mention "attention seeking" as I don't think that this would be his style. He appears to be beyond that. As chilling as that phone call is, to me, it is more a case of threats. But then, I don't know about this. I am guessing here.

Oh my heavens, Barry, I did not see your post. It is so good to see you here.

My opinion that Barry was "attention seeking" was based on all of his posts here on the 30th of January, why they caught my attention, Barry was very unhappy with the Charles material, even stating he felt "this forum could not accommodate 2 whistle blowers", lets call a spade a spade here, "he spat his dummy out" then proceeded to demand all his post were removed.

I distinctly remember that night thinking to my self, "wow this guy is coming across a little insecure", why is he acting like this.

Fortunately or unfortunately, depending on your view, I am a truth seeker,i don't take things on face value. I like to question, dig a little. A crime? not at all, a healthy way of living.

As is the catch fraise for Mel "we don't wont to believe, we wont to know"

Make of me what you will, I didn't sign up to deliberately go out of my way to attack, discredit or upset anybody, far from it, I signed up for the journey to expand and explore, debate, interact with like minded people who find some common ground with others through visions of creating a better way, for us all to live here.

Barry is now stating he did not go and report this to the police.
He is claiming their is no crime report or record.

I have Two members of my close circle who are longtime serving members of the police force, honest people who take their work seriously as a life mission.
(not all police are bad,)
IF this horrendous alleged attack took place then those responsible should be brought to justice. Absolutely.

Once again I will exercise my right to freedom of speech, in a respectable calm manner.
I don't think it's true. I have a strong feeling this was a contrived manipulated scenario by Barry King in order to draw more attention to himself.
I will be more than happy for Barry King to prove otherwise.

The truth will out, I have no doubt about that, it's always the way.

Regards
Ace

Jeez Ace! In a way I understand the healthy scepticism, but if you had read Barry's post as the watcher on the former avalon, plus other threads he has been involved in, you will see that thare is more to this than can be related in such a short post as this is going to be. I really dont think the police would be of the slightest help whatsoever and attention seeking is not how I would describe anything Barry has written - Charles on the other hand promises everything and tells very little, keeps them hanging on for more... that's attention seeking. I'm not disregarding charles, but he has a great take on P.R. Barry has just told stuff, plain and simple. I havnt made my mind up about anything, like you I love to learn. Barry's info goes back years, it ought to be read by anyone seeking information about disclosure etc...
Keep cool Ace :cool:
Absolutely no problem with Barry"s work in the past.



don't know it, so will not comment.



A question for you, did you read Barry's post here on 30th January?



on ice

Ace

Sarlic
8th February 2011, 12:53
Really good to see you here Barry.

Im one of the newbies that have only recently started following your brilliant work
and i just want to say that its a honor and a privilege to able to read and listen to your materiel.

Im really sorry to hear what happened to you on the 5th but from what little i know of you (so far)
it wont be long before your fireing on all cylinders again.

It is stories like yours that have made the man on the street (me) step out of the shadows and want to change
and for that i cant thank you enough.

SPIRIT WOLF
8th February 2011, 12:56
I have been patient thus far but obviously even that can get strained. When one is not in possession of all the facts, the background, everything, your take can be coloured. Lets straighten this up for once and for all. In my work when an incident like the one from January 5th occurs we close ranks, its not for any outside sources to interfere as they are too limited to comprehend the nature, reasons involved. My colleagues, Intelligence services are more than capable of conducting an investigation, in my past line of work these are the beginning and end of it. Still showing patience but its being strained. I'm only here to support and assist close friends, and whilst I am here I'd hoped for a silent time. However I have been forced to comment, people just cannot leave things alone, cannot let sleeping dogs lie, keep it up and the dog will only turn round and BITE. Forget all about the events, its none of anyones business here, its a closed shop and as stated above we close ranks, its nothing to do with anyone else. I did not wish any of this to be made public. LEAVE IT please, let the team do their work. In answer to my posts at end of January, nothing to do with attention seeking, the only one here doing that is the one you refer to as Charles. I do not need any attention thankyou very much. Yes I disliked the way members here were being manipulated by that character and tried to open a few eyes, something I've been doing a very long time. As I have explained things more than once on forums I do not wish to repeat myself. I'm grateful for all the nice comments made here but to be honest I can well do without any such threads here, I requested my material to be deleted in order to complete a locking away of my past but some just cannot let it go. Kindly halt the insinuations based on hearsay, ask those whom have known me for years, I don't do ego, I don't do jealousy. Only one individual on this forum who is demanding attention in a subtle but clear way and you know whom that is. So, with that said, please go about your business but stop bringing me into conversations that quite frankly are none of your business and spend your time more wisely elsewhere on the forum. Leave this old guy in peace, I think he deserves that.

SPIRIT WOLF
8th February 2011, 13:07
And one last thing ACE, you would not believe half the things that my past has put me through, they can be verified by others, these are not your public arena experiences, these are covert hidden experiences that many would have no idea about. The military, the intel services have certain ways of doing things, unless you personally know about these you cannot imagine whats really going on out there and you end up putting your own civilian slant on things, just does not work that way. You carry on disbelieving, its your right, its none of your business but its free speech day and still a free country, well, for a while longer.

ace
8th February 2011, 14:01
I have been patient thus far but obviously even that can get strained. When one is not in possession of all the facts, the background, everything, your take can be coloured. Lets straighten this up for once and for all. In my work when an incident like the one from January 5th occurs we close ranks, its not for any outside sources to interfere as they are too limited to comprehend the nature, reasons involved. My colleagues, Intelligence services are more than capable of conducting an investigation, in my past line of work these are the beginning and end of it. Still showing patience but its being strained. I'm only here to support and assist close friends, and whilst I am here I'd hoped for a silent time. However I have been forced to comment, people just cannot leave things alone, cannot let sleeping dogs lie, keep it up and the dog will only turn round and BITE. Forget all about the events, its none of anyones business here, its a closed shop and as stated above we close ranks, its nothing to do with anyone else. I did not wish any of this to be made public. LEAVE IT please, let the team do their work. In answer to my posts at end of January, nothing to do with attention seeking, the only one here doing that is the one you refer to as Charles. I do not need any attention thankyou very much. Yes I disliked the way members here were being manipulated by that character and tried to open a few eyes, something I've been doing a very long time. As I have explained things more than once on forums I do not wish to repeat myself. I'm grateful for all the nice comments made here but to be honest I can well do without any such threads here, I requested my material to be deleted in order to complete a locking away of my past but some just cannot let it go. Kindly halt the insinuations based on hearsay, ask those whom have known me for years, I don't do ego, I don't do jealousy. Only one individual on this forum who is demanding attention in a subtle but clear way and you know whom that is. So, with that said, please go about your business but stop bringing me into conversations that quite frankly are none of your business and spend your time more wisely elsewhere on the forum. Leave this old guy in peace, I think he deserves that.

Hello Barry (welcome back)

I didn't think you could sit their and say nothing (old habits die hard)
I am truly happy (have a big smile on my face) you seem to be getting your brain and those happy typing fingers back in to action. (well done)

'When one is not in possession of all the facts, the background, everything, your take can be coloured. You are right Barry. I was only going on your posts here, and your radio interview with Mel.

writen word and spoken truth i would say, but "hay ho the wind and the rain"



please go about your business but stop bringing me into conversations that quite frankly are none of your business and spend your time more wisely elsewhere on the forum. Leave this old guy in peace


I respect your request

Ace

SPIRIT WOLF
8th February 2011, 14:08
Thankyou Ace, I see you are a very bright individual, all you need is the recipe in full and you can bake that cake. Old habits? when forced to respond I will, other than that I'm only here at Avalon to watch and support dear friends. Its nicer watching the ever changing scenary here.

parcival
8th February 2011, 14:22
Barry,

You have been a huge inspiration to me.

If ever I can assist you in your healing, please let me know...parcival

SPIRIT WOLF
8th February 2011, 14:28
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HagpLaM6vIw&feature=fvst
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pi02GvnzEWg

Peacelovinman
8th February 2011, 14:45
I have been patient thus far but obviously even that can get strained. When one is not in possession of all the facts, the background, everything, your take can be coloured. Lets straighten this up for once and for all. In my work when an incident like the one from January 5th occurs we close ranks, its not for any outside sources to interfere as they are too limited to comprehend the nature, reasons involved. My colleagues, Intelligence services are more than capable of conducting an investigation, in my past line of work these are the beginning and end of it. Still showing patience but its being strained. I'm only here to support and assist close friends, and whilst I am here I'd hoped for a silent time. However I have been forced to comment, people just cannot leave things alone, cannot let sleeping dogs lie, keep it up and the dog will only turn round and BITE. Forget all about the events, its none of anyones business here, its a closed shop and as stated above we close ranks, its nothing to do with anyone else. I did not wish any of this to be made public. LEAVE IT please, let the team do their work. In answer to my posts at end of January, nothing to do with attention seeking, the only one here doing that is the one you refer to as Charles. I do not need any attention thankyou very much. Yes I disliked the way members here were being manipulated by that character and tried to open a few eyes, something I've been doing a very long time. As I have explained things more than once on forums I do not wish to repeat myself. I'm grateful for all the nice comments made here but to be honest I can well do without any such threads here, I requested my material to be deleted in order to complete a locking away of my past but some just cannot let it go. Kindly halt the insinuations based on hearsay, ask those whom have known me for years, I don't do ego, I don't do jealousy. Only one individual on this forum who is demanding attention in a subtle but clear way and you know whom that is. So, with that said, please go about your business but stop bringing me into conversations that quite frankly are none of your business and spend your time more wisely elsewhere on the forum. Leave this old guy in peace, I think he deserves that.

Hey Barry

I have followed your story for some years. You have obviously suffered for your bravery in attempting to blow the whistle on what you have seen and I thank you for your courage in the service of your fellow man. You have, I believe, experienced some of the horrors that have made me ill by just reading about them!

Although new to this forum, I have followed Camelot and Avalon for some years and have come to trust Bill Ryan for his journalistic integrity. In my opinion, he lets people tell their story in full and this sometimes comes across as if he is endorsing a point of view when, in fact, he is just allowing the facts to come out. I do, however, fear that he has accepted what "Charles" is doing a little too quickly and it has made me a bit "tom and dick" to see many members toadying up to "Charles" just a quickly as they can.

Time will tell, I guess, as to the integrity of Charles intentions but, as of now, I tend to fall on your side of the fence.

Thanks for listening.

p.s. Are you a Kim Wilde fan, Barry, or did those videos make a point?

Sidney
8th February 2011, 14:55
And one last thing ACE, you would not believe half the things that my past has put me through, they can be verified by others, these are not your public arena experiences, these are covert hidden experiences that many would have no idea about. The military, the intel services have certain ways of doing things, unless you personally know about these you cannot imagine whats really going on out there and you end up putting your own civilian slant on things, just does not work that way. You carry on disbelieving, its your right, its none of your business but its free speech day and still a free country, well, for a while longer.


As a TI (targeted individul, for those that dont know) I understand. I CAN imagine what you have been through, as I can't believe what I have been through, and I'm a nobody.
"They" can be very successful at shutting people up. I know first hand. My thoughts are with you. Peace, to you and yours. :angel:

Caren
8th February 2011, 15:28
Always nice to see you Barry, even if you choose to remain 'silent'.
You are a true Avalon "Gem" .. a gentleman. :)
Many of us older members know we are blessed to have you here. You deserve our respect- you more than earned it.
Thank you for all you have done and continue to do for others, especially our dear Eva and also Kari.
Much love to you Barry,
Caren

Agape
8th February 2011, 16:11
Hello Barry and dear friends ,

pardon my intrusion at the moment, hope all is going fine here .. I'm indeed very happy that Barry is back on the board, surrounded by supportive and loving influences that can ease the recovery process, in my opinion .
It's one of the reasons why I thought it's helpful for him/us to be here, among friends .

Please try not to question him on his past at the moment, he may or may not answer you with sense but the level of questioning here is not designed for situations of very sensitive character such as this one.

In my honest , perhaps not objective but like-to-be prof opinion , person in such state would deserve more intensive care, daily therapy etc. I know Barry sais 'he's getting it' and it always depends on individual , and their situation as what is good and not,
also different medical systems handle such situations differently ( they tend to be very lax recently , all over, I've noticed ).

Pressing the buttons ( such as would be normal if he was fine ) to trigger a response about his past and details of life and experience may result in him feeling extremely unwell, frustrated , annoyed, angered. Not particularly at any of you but at himself and source of these very hurtful circumstances ..


Barry has said he's here to support close friend . I'm probably here to support Barry. :lol: We're both here to support Truth.


As fun as it may sound it isn't. I'd like wise need rather secluded environment and not interneting or huge forums to expand on the data.

There's a serious reality situation behind, in our hands only partially, and forgive me I don't have the guts to speak about myself even.

Many responses and 'touches' since the January events but beware the situation is simply forcibly prolonged and unassisted for me for several years,
with very little options..basically I follow what Barrys possibilities and choices allow us to do ,
made me cry and collapse under that even if they were meant good.

It's not about 'your forum' or 'whistleblowing' . Consider situations behind do not evolve the way how you imagine /orchestrate them in your mind.

I know well that 'having life' in ones hands, having controls, and knowing 'i'm the creator of my destiny' feels the best.

Even then, there are events we are not perfectly ready for ...not as an individuals , not as collective .



Barry and I are not debating 'forums' at the moment at all, we're not debating 'disclosure'.

For good few years we're trying to gain orientation and help from relevant places for ET data on human orginis I'm responsible to carry , debating life and where to continue .


Even if some parts of this posting or another postings ( I refer esp to my ET Origins of Mankinds sub ) sound like a sci-fi or something you could dream of at night to you,

unfortunatelly they are not . I'm bit ashamed , quite a lots at times, to be a part of people who can't get a grasp of it or believe 'all i'm saying' for one reason or another,

I have very strong sense of truth and it's why I' returned to Europe at all etc.


Facing this situation as I've said for good few years without much change, my initial optimism and also lots of emotional back up I enjoyed in the monastery and community where I lived in the mountains is diminishing.

Like a candle light it feels anxious in the strong winds and shruggled to itself .



We will reconsider the situation on the go..



Thanks


:angel:

SPIRIT WOLF
8th February 2011, 18:30
p.s. Are you a Kim Wilde fan, Barry, or did those videos make a point?

Actually both

Humble Janitor
8th February 2011, 18:48
@Ace:

Barry was here long before the Charles material showed up. I was an active participant in the Watcher thread.

Unlike the Charles material, people did not come here to fawn head over heels for his material. They did not start fan clubs. It was a way of asking Barry questions and him sharing his knowledge.

Much more "open" than the Charles material.

avid
8th February 2011, 18:50
I do hope this man gets well soon.
In the old forum as 'The Watcher', both he and Casbolt tried to hog the forum by continuously 'bumping' their own threads.
When challenged, 'The Watcher' became belligerent and quite insulting - provoking complaints by many regular and open-minded members.
They were relegated to their own area by public demand.
I believe this man had some odd experience, but to cause such ructions is divisive.....
Get well soon Barry

sandy
8th February 2011, 20:05
Dear Barry,

I don't know you but want you to know that I care deeply. My Father recently passed from Alzheimer's and it was agonizing to watch him try and retrieve memories, and even more so for him from what he shared during his journey. He was a strong man like you!! All the Best:)

SPIRIT WOLF
8th February 2011, 20:13
I do hope this man gets well soon.
In the old forum as 'The Watcher', both he and Casbolt tried to hog the forum by continuously 'bumping' their own threads.
When challenged, 'The Watcher' became belligerent and quite insulting - provoking complaints by many regular and open-minded members.
They were relegated to their own area by public demand.
I believe this man had some odd experience, but to cause such ructions is divisive.....
Get well soon Barry

Bumping threads? where? please show proof, can anyone else substantiate your claims? Ructions? sure I get irate when faced by trolls and the mentally challenged, who would not? were not relegated at all were actually assigned own witness sections apart from standard areas, do please get your facts right, and please always engage brain before opening mouth, otherwise it makes you look silly.

Agape
8th February 2011, 20:20
I do hope this man gets well soon.
In the old forum as 'The Watcher', both he and Casbolt tried to hog the forum by continuously 'bumping' their own threads.
When challenged, 'The Watcher' became belligerent and quite insulting - provoking complaints by many regular and open-minded members.
They were relegated to their own area by public demand.
I believe this man had some odd experience, but to cause such ructions is divisive.....
Get well soon Barry


MOD Hat on anybody ?


:yo:

Sarlic
8th February 2011, 20:23
Hi again Barry

I had the good fortune of meeting Kim Wilde and her dad Marty many years ago when i worked at a record company in Soho.
I used to work in the post room and my father was the office service manager.
One day my dad phoned and asked me to make a cheese sandwich and meet him in his office
I was quite suprised to see Kim and her dad sitting there as they were very big in the music industry at the time
The sandwich was for Kim and Marty was having a chat and a whiskey with my dad
I handed Kim the sarnie and was just about to leave but she insisted i sat down with them and had a chat.
Im very pleased to say that they were 2 of the nicest people you could ever meet.

SPIRIT WOLF
8th February 2011, 21:47
Wow, so you met Kim and Marty, that I could get envious of, she likes cheese sarnies too? cool

Sarlic
8th February 2011, 21:59
Wow, so you met Kim and Marty, that I could get envious of, she likes cheese sarnies too? cool

Very long time ago,1987 if i remember rightly
Good memories and above all really nice people.

sjkted
9th February 2011, 05:41
Is it possible Barry is suffering from multiple personality disorder and has just had a personality activated?

The Cambodia video seems to have some multiple imagery, but then again most music videos do...

--sjkted

cayman
9th February 2011, 11:43
Hi, barry.
I'm new here, don't know much about you(except the interview MP3). from what I'd learn, you are a straight-out person, I respect that
wish you all well

ace
9th February 2011, 11:48
@Ace:

Barry was here long before the Charles material showed up. I was an active participant in the Watcher thread.

Unlike the Charles material, people did not come here to fawn head over heels for his material. They did not start fan clubs. It was a way of asking Barry questions and him sharing his knowledge.

Much more "open" than the Charles material.

I Respect that. The world is a ocean of information, you can please some of the people some of the time, but not all, all of the time.

Each to their own. I took the time to watch a couple of Barry's video's last night on you tube. I can see his heart is in the right place. I have no doubt in that.

I wish you well Barry in your recovery. (that's only because you like cheesy buttes, like me)
Ace

mattymoto
9th February 2011, 12:49
I'm new around here , and not very educated when it comes to Barry. I just want to say that after listening to "disclosure from the inside" I wanted to thank Barry. "thank you Barry".

Sending you well wishes and love....

TWINNICK
9th February 2011, 14:51
G'day Barry.

I would like to wish you all the best for your recovery and into the future.

Its people like you who have helped me in my looooonnnnngggg search for the truth.

I thank you for all your work.

..Nick..

SPIRIT WOLF
9th February 2011, 17:45
Thankyou guys for your very kind words, its not all in vain then.

rosie
9th February 2011, 18:17
Hi Spirit Wolf, the search for truth is never in vain, your work has opened many hearts. :hug:

in love & light :luv:

sjkted
12th February 2011, 08:14
Spirit Wolf: how have you been doing? It seems like you have regained some of your memory from recent posts.

--sjkted