Bush fears arrest...

[Teakai]

I posted this elsewhere, but it's important enough to have its own thread, I think :)

Came across this story from the 6th February 2011.
George Bush cancels a trip to Switzerland for fear of being arrested.

http://video.theaustralian.com.au/1782304569/Arrest-threat-halts-Bush-Geneva-visit

[penn]

The link has been deleted. Can you believe that?

[slipknotted]

he shouldnt be the only one

[bluestflame]

similar story
http://www.guardian.co.uk/law/2011/feb/06/george-bush-trip-to-switzerland

[Teakai]

The link has been deleted. Can you believe that?

Sorry, Penn. I copied and pasted it from where I had it to start with - and it must have gone wrong there. It's all fixed now.

[Dennis Leahy]

Yes, we're coming to get you Georgie Pie!

Note that I do not want him to be tortured while in prison. Nor do we torture Dick Cheney when we have him in prison. Or Obama. Not even the type of torture they're doing to Bradley Manning right now.

Dennis

[silentghost80]

wel i thought he was the man but he's scared of Switzerland lmao

[steve_a]

Hi Teakai,

This is a very important story, perhaps more important than most people mght think. Be careful not to look at the action of the Human Rights groups, nor the fact that George Bush cancelled his trip to Switzerland. George Bush has effectively admitted he did something wrong.

Here in Brazil there is a saying, "Quem não deve, não teme" which means basically if you've done nothing wrong, you've nothing to be afraid of. If he's afraid of being arrested, it's because he knows he's done something to be arrested for! And he's just admitted the fact in plain sight for everyone to see.

I hope that other countries will pick this up and also Human Rights groups in those countries to restrict his movements even more until he lives in a world the size of a postage stamp. At least that way, we can all keep our eyes on him!

Best regards,

Steve

Update: Just found this on my travels: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/feb/07/george-bush-issued-travel-warning It's like they were listening to my words. :-)

[Teakai]

Hi Teakai,

This is a very important story, perhaps more important than most people mght think. Be careful not to look at the action of the Human Rights groups, nor the fact that George Bush cancelled his trip to Switzerland. George Bush has effectively admitted he did something wrong.

Here in Brazil there is a saying, "Quem não deve, não teme" which means basically if you've done nothing wrong, you've nothing to be afraid of. If he's afraid of being arrested, it's because he knows he's done something to be arrested for! And he's just admitted the fact in plain sight for everyone to see.

I hope that other countries will pick this up and also Human Rights groups in those countries to restrict his movements even more until he lives in a world the size of a postage stamp. At least that way, we can all keep our eyes on him!

Best regards,

Steve

Update: Just found this on my travels: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/feb/07/george-bush-issued-travel-warning It's like they were listening to my words. :-)

Hi Steve, I rather think it's more that the people of that country are pressuring their government to make moves - that they just may carry out - or the people may take matters into their own hands.

I don't think Bush cares if he has done anything wrong. What we consider to be wrong, may not be what he considers to be wrong. He's just playing it safe.

As Julian Assange didn't want to be sent to the US to answer charges - doesn't stand to reason that he is guilty.

I know George Bush is guilty of ordering torture - I'm just saying - not going is not necessarily an admission of his guilt so much as a fear of the outome.

[write4change]

On the major polictical sight from which I come, they have been putting up detailed issues of law about all this. This is going out to all the world that signed the Geneva Convention. They are also working top down to include a lot of the so called "Vulcans."

The difference with Julian Assange is that no legal case has been made. He is wanted for questioning. He has offered to do it publicly and on video. He has not been charged with anything for extradition.

On the other hand, Bush in his own book publicly discussed his choices and why he made them. The legal case for indictment is prepared, he had to be in a country where it could be served. No country's government wants to go there so they tipped him off. Now he will no longer accept invitations and they will have to find another way to feed him money.

[bluestflame]

it's not the arrest he fears , it's what happens after ....

[Teakai]

On the major polictical sight from which I come, they have been putting up detailed issues of law about all this. This is going out to all the world that signed the Geneva Convention. They are also working top down to include a lot of the so called "Vulcans."

The difference with Julian Assange is that no legal case has been made. He is wanted for questioning. He has offered to do it publicly and on video. He has not been charged with anything for extradition.

On the other hand, Bush in his own book publicly discussed his choices and why he made them. The legal case for indictment is prepared, he had to be in a country where it could be served. No country's government wants to go there so they tipped him off. Now he will no longer accept invitations and they will have to find another way to feed him money.

Hi Write4change - just to be clear - my comparison of Assange to Bush was simply to show that one's reason for not wishing to enter a particular country is not necessarily an admission of guilt.

I don't see any evidence that Assange has done anything wrong - even if he is working for the other side.

I need to google vulcans.
:)

[crosby]

it's not the arrest he fears , it's what happens after ....

indeed. i think you are correct. only time will tell what is really on the table for him. if it is at all true that tptb are becoming the tptw, he'll have it coming and going from all sides. evil begets evil.

[BrianEn]

The arrest and conviction of Bush would be a major blow to the why of the why they said went in there. It wouldn't be something they can afford. As long as they can keep up their sound bites, buzzwords and all out lies they can keep the masses in dreamland.

[DouglasDanger]

Do they need to arrest him in switzerland or can the arrest be made in any country that supports extradition for his crimes? I'd love to see him never be able to leave the US again for fear of arrest and outcome of his trial. heck put a bounty on his head for his arrest and see how many folks knock down his door to turn him in from his own country..( I know he would never be extradited from the states but hey one can dream)

[write4change]

See James Mann The Rise of the Vulcans The history of Bush's War Cabinet.

To arrest him, he must already be indicted by that country for war crimes and he must be present in that country to be served. The indictments await his presence to be served.

Pinochet essentially did 533 days in house arrest which broke him. The big wigs of the world are aware of what happened. Every room in the house had cameras including the bathroom. He could not go outside for a walk without an escort. He could give no orders whatsoever. This is crushing to a true dictator. He was even told when his meal times were. The house was beautiful and the food excellent but he had no freedom to be who he was at any time. This is really scary to the big wigs and the European countries cannot ignore the Geneva Convention without peril.

[observer]

I highly doubt 'W' and his family harbor many concerns regarding being arrested, either abroad, or in the U.S. A few years back he purchased 100,000 acres in Paraguay under the proxy of his daughter, Jenna:

http://www.trufax.org/general/bush_family_paraguay_hideaway_up.html

Since Paraguay is one of the countries the top Nazis fled to after the Second World War, I suspect the government down there will be more than sympathetic to W's past deeds. When the heat gets heavy, all he needs do is hop on a private jet, and he's home-free.

In fact, ol'W will be right at home with all those Nazis his grand pappy, Prescott, financed into power back in the 1920's.

[Lancelot]

About time :)

[Lost Soul]

He's only a pawn, but good anyway.

[Teakai]

Pinochet essentially did 533 days in house arrest which broke him. The big wigs of the world are aware of what happened. Every room in the house had cameras including the bathroom. He could not go outside for a walk without an escort. He could give no orders whatsoever. This is crushing to a true dictator. He was even told when his meal times were. The house was beautiful and the food excellent but he had no freedom to be who he was at any time. This is really scary to the big wigs and the European countries cannot ignore the Geneva Convention without peril.

*sigh*
Such hypocrisy.
They don't have any problem with the idea of us being monitored, controlled and dictated too - only in far less grandeur.