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giovonni
9th February 2011, 19:11
This is becoming a major health problem...especially for young children :(

California Researchers Raise Concerns About ‘Thirdhand Smoke’

February 8, 2011 11:50 PM

“What we have found is that residues of tobacco smoke will get more toxic with time...”
Video and story here;
http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2011/02/08/researchers-raise-concerns-about-%E2%80%98thirdhand-smoke%E2%80%99/

JDM
9th February 2011, 19:17
True,
Smoke does leave residue everywhere.

I know because I smoke.

You can really notice it on the walls, windows and curtains if you don't clean them for a while.

So I guess Im actually smoking my cigarettes 3 times for everyone now.

write4change
9th February 2011, 19:30
Same thing with coal dust. I watched a documentary of the BBC following people living like 1870 and the most dirt came from heating coal and using it for heat and cooking. Dust constantly everywhere. Probably why TB or consumption was so prevalent then. And there is no such thing as clean coal.

peterstein
9th February 2011, 19:46
Junk science at its best......

Shairia
9th February 2011, 19:49
Before I read any "studies" I also look to see who funds them and what their potential agenda might be.

giovonni
9th February 2011, 19:56
Before I read any "studies" I also look to see who funds them and what their potential agenda might be.

agenda? To stop smoking around children? Or better still > to stop smoking for your own health ? :doh:

Shairia
9th February 2011, 19:58
Giovanni I'm not convinced it is as dangerous as they make it out to be, especially in it's natural form (without additives). I know many disagree with this position but it comes from smelling a rat in the machine.

giovonni
9th February 2011, 20:04
Giovanni I'm not convinced it is as dangerous as they make it out to be, especially in it's natural form (without additives). I know many disagree with this position but it comes from smelling a rat in the machine.

this was not posted to create an argument about smoking - to each their own, i believe the evidence weighs heavily in favor of this report.

What is third-hand smoke? Is it hazardous?
Researchers warn cigarette dangers may be even more far-reaching
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=what-is-third-hand-smoke

Shairia
9th February 2011, 20:11
I respect your position and do not wish to disrupt your thread so I will respectfully exit.

giovonni
9th February 2011, 20:28
Thank you Shairia
i admire you spunk and respectful way :yo:
i know many enlighten ones that smoke non- additive tobacco. My concerns are with the manufactured additives in tobacco products > mostly poisonous substances.

The purpose of posting this story, was to help prompt anyone (especially) with children, to reevaluate smoking around those who are passive to the ill affects of this very addictive substance.

Shairia
9th February 2011, 20:33
An admirable cause and my pupose was to make people think before they blindly accept any paid studies. We have been conditioned at every level and need to get in touch with our own instincts once again. I do not doubt the harmful effects of the additives and close proximity of smoke on children, I am a mother and am very cautious about these things.

Koyaanisqatsi
9th February 2011, 20:36
Giovanni I'm not convinced it is as dangerous as they make it out to be, especially in it's natural form (without additives). I know many disagree with this position but it comes from smelling a rat in the machine.

Only problem is most smokers buy packaged tobacco like Marlboro or Camel or some other crap. ROLL YOUR OWN, imported if possible, I prefer Peter Stokeby.

giovonni
9th February 2011, 21:11
Note ~ white vinagar is good for cleaning in these situations ~ remember to also (lightly) sponge rinse the area afterwards :thumb:

http://activerain.com/image_store/uploads/6/6/1/4/8/ar120156718984166.jpg

"Cigarette Anyone?"

"I think this is the worst example of excessive smoking/deferred maintenance I have ever seen. This discoloration may represent hundreds, if not thousands, of packs of cigarettes and one has to wonder how much nicotine might actually be present. Should this be considered a hazardous waste site? Who is going to clean up this mess. Can it be painted over? Should it be painted over? According to "How Stuff Works," Sixty milligrams of nicotine (about the amount in three or four cigarettes if all of the nicotine were absorbed) will kill an adult, but consuming only one cigarette's worth of nicotine is enough to make a toddler severely ill!

This is one of those instances where I am not willing to recommend that the buyer just get out the paint roller and "have at it." I think cleaning/removal by trained professionals is called for. Do you think my recommendation is:

A, Not strong enough (the house should be demolished);

B, Over the top (what are you smoking?);

C, Way over the top (I'd let my kids clean and/or paint);

D, No problem, I'll clean it up for the buyer myself; or,

E, Accurate?"

http://activerain.com/blogsview/356650/cigarette-anyone-

giovonni
9th February 2011, 21:41
i am a libra, and embrace balance always in my life ~ here are two videos (perspectives) in regards to this subject matter


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBRGEJrv6Jg



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOJiP-itzck&feature=related

Teakai
9th February 2011, 21:44
I wonder how that fares alongside exhaust smoke and whether one would be worse than the other.

giovonni
9th February 2011, 22:06
I wonder how that fares alongside exhaust smoke and whether one would be worse than the other.


Were talking about exposure in a very closed area here, which is for all individuals to decide upon? Air pollution is what it is ~ one way or another Mother Earth will take care of that problem.

i believe a simple rule of thumb applies here - "the nose knows'

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_a0swvUsbmrs/SrpowIEOaXI/AAAAAAAAAwQ/FFMJRNZf2OI/s400/TheNoseKnowsCOLOUR.jpg