Reptilians are an illusion

[Bright Garlick]

I've heard and read a lot of material about the Reptilians. And even PAF has a large amount of material on

[witchy1]

Hi Bright Garlick, have you considered the Dulce wars thread here: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?8393-The-alien-shoot-out-at-Dulce-underground-base&p=133106#post133106

If not I could suggest starting at post #25.

Cheers

W

[Oouthere]

Yeah, they are an illusion until you touch one....

Rich

[JDM]

Well,

There is quite a large mass of information on reptilians out there.
Going all the way back to Ancient history to the present day.

I believe I would question weather your "friends" are real or if there lying to you. perhaps they didn't understand your question. You said they looked confused.

And yeah, the link witchy1 gave is a good place to look also.

[sunflower]

How do we know whether or not your tall whites or short brownies are not shape-shifters? Sorry. Couldn't resist that one! Hope you're right but personally I doubt it. I am happy for you that your experiences seem to be so positive and I am interested in hearing more.

[Dale]

If one follows a holographic study of the universe, then we're all illusory to some form or another of creation. Even the reptile folk ;)

[sshenry]

If one follows a holographic study of the universe, then we're all illusory to some form or another of creation. Even the reptile folk ;)

Took the words right out of my mouth :)

It's ALL illusion. Only the spirit - the soul - is real and beyond the ability of anything in the physical world to harm.

[Bright Garlick]

Hey Guys : I have only given you part of what they said and I won't share more (some stuff is way too personal, which is why I've hesitated documenting the encounter on my blog). And yes I too wondered about the ancient history stuff but they are adamant. I post this for those willing to consider an alternative point of view. I don't expect that many will. There's a long history of conditioning about what's real and what is not. Any suggestion otherwise always seems to generate a polarity. But we are all entitled to an opinion, even David Icke (soryy Icky). :flame: :loco:

Dale I agree with you - any sense of self is illusory. Nothing is as it appears. All contains emptiness. Solidity is the sense of real.

The Tall Aliens use of the word illusion wasn't just meant the way we interpret it - it came with feeling and images.

[Dale]

I don't doubt the existent of intelligent, bipedal, reptile beings lurking about the cosmos somewhere, maybe even in our own backyard - but the modern concept of "reptilians," those cold blooded, shape-shifting, hegemonists, is just a bit much for me.

To my knowledge, I don't think any human, or group of humans, can comprehend the entirety of extraterrestrial paradigms, motives, and intentions. I have found that it would be similar to a goldfish pondering about the blurry figures walking passed his bowl.

[str8thinker]

@Bright Garlick, next time you happen to meet your Tall or Brown friends, would you mind asking them why they consider reptilians to be an illusion of human imagination? Surely they must have some insight into the mechanism of this collective hallucination. You might also ask them, how did this reptilian concept arise and whether some of the more predatory humans on this planet had a hand in it? Thanks for passing it on.

[kersley]

I've heard and read a lot of material about the Reptilians. And even PAF has a large amount of material on them.

A few weeks ago I had 2 more alien encounters. I have had them all my life. During the first encounter (the most spectacular of my life) I met with 2 different races - beings I colloquially call The Tall Aliens (who have had a long term presence at a base in southern England - Charles ought to know where and who) and The Brownies. I have had a long relationship with both. Both races played a significant role in our evolutionary development.

During my encounters I asked 12 questions of my friends. For some peculiar reason the idea of the Reptilian race had been plaguing me. I was particuarly intrigued that Dr John Mack and Barbara Lamb have documented them and Barbara claims to have encountered 1 her self. And so I blurted out a question related to this :
Do the Reptilians exist ? The individuals from both races looked quizzically at me each time I asked the question (I asked twice - once to each race in 2 separate locations). It was as if they were dumbfounded that I asked such a stupid question. The Tall Aliens said : No, they do not exist. They are an illusion of human creation. The brownies said something similar. They were all very clear - no they are not real, people only think they are real.

Now I have always had an honest truthful relationship with both races. I am satisfied with what they told me. I urge you to question the validity of all claims about the Reptilians. Nothing about them adds up. And also remember that belief in this race has multiplied exponentially with the work of David Icke. If any of you trust that man and see him as a spiritual guru, you need to examine your own conditioning and your own capacity for thinking and feeling for yourself.

So the aliens themselves say that The Reptilians do not exist. :peace:

Maybe you could tell the 2 reptilian who stand at the bottom of my bed they are not real?

[ponda]

Hi Bright Garlick,


Next time you could ask them if reptilians exist in a different dimension from us.Context can be important when trying to get a clear answer sometimes.

cheers

[Star Gazer]

Sometimes I wonder if the concept of the Reptilians is not a projection of our shadow-side; our Heart of Darkness if you will.

[passiglight]

was it david icke who said something about the reptors being an illusion created by the negativity in the matrix ?

still anything that is within the 5 sense reality is real enough i think

[Bill Ryan]

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Dear Friends:

Listen to this conversation on the subject between Jordan Maxwell and David Icke (22 mins) and then make up your minds. Some astonishing stories here. They seemed real to me!

http://projectavalon.net/David_Icke_Jordan_Maxwell_reptilian_stories_Project_Avalon_May_2010.mp3

[Teakai]

I've heard and read a lot of material about the Reptilians. And even PAF has a large amount of material on them.

A few weeks ago I had 2 more alien encounters. I have had them all my life. During the first encounter (the most spectacular of my life) I met with 2 different races - beings I colloquially call The Tall Aliens (who have had a long term presence at a base in southern England - Charles ought to know where and who) and The Brownies. I have had a long relationship with both. Both races played a significant role in our evolutionary development.

During my encounters I asked 12 questions of my friends. For some peculiar reason the idea of the Reptilian race had been plaguing me. I was particuarly intrigued that Dr John Mack and Barbara Lamb have documented them and Barbara claims to have encountered 1 her self. And so I blurted out a question related to this :
Do the Reptilians exist ? The individuals from both races looked quizzically at me each time I asked the question (I asked twice - once to each race in 2 separate locations). It was as if they were dumbfounded that I asked such a stupid question. The Tall Aliens said : No, they do not exist. They are an illusion of human creation. The brownies said something similar. They were all very clear - no they are not real, people only think they are real.

Now I have always had an honest truthful relationship with both races. I am satisfied with what they told me. I urge you to question the validity of all claims about the Reptilians. Nothing about them adds up. And also remember that belief in this race has multiplied exponentially with the work of David Icke. If any of you trust that man and see him as a spiritual guru, you need to examine your own conditioning and your own capacity for thinking and feeling for yourself.

So the aliens themselves say that The Reptilians do not exist. :peace:

Maybe they didn't understand what 'reptilians' meant , Brightgarlick - the description you gave of them when you questioned them about reptilians sounds like they were a bit confused.
They could have thought reptilians was a type of food, maybe, that humans had made up - like a cheese burger.

[Shairia]

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Dear Friends:

Listen to this conversation on the subject between Jordan Maxwell and David Icke (22 mins) and then make up your minds. Some astonishing stories here. They seemed real to me!

http://projectavalon.net/David_Icke_Jordan_Maxwell_reptilian_stories_Project_Avalon_May_2010.mp3


Thanks for posting the link Bill, I remember listening to it when it first came out!

[seko]

I liked that conversation between David and Jordan. David Icke is for real and he's a great man. There's nothing wrong believing or not in reptilians.:cool:

[astrid]

This is how i see this , these beings were telling the truth... The Reptoids don't exist FOR THEM.
Possibly because they are no longer part of a duality, and they no longer need to be in battle...
So when asked, of course they would say they are not real....

If this is all correct this does speak volumes of how powerful our minds are....

If we can create, we can un-create.

Personally i prefer call then The "lizzies" ( small "l") as it removes
the emotional "charge" of the word "Reptilians"

[sshenry]

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Dear Friends:

Listen to this conversation on the subject between Jordan Maxwell and David Icke (22 mins) and then make up your minds. Some astonishing stories here. They seemed real to me!

http://projectavalon.net/David_Icke_Jordan_Maxwell_reptilian_stories_Project_Avalon_May_2010.mp3

There was a time when I read and digested everything that David Icke put out - I'd follow up on his reasearch just to prove to myself that he was accurate, and he was! And that was the problem. I tied myself into knots thinking about it.

The reptilians may be real - as real as you and I are - they may be able to manipulate matter and form, they may have intricate plans in place to control and dominate and feed off the negative energy they stir up in mankind, but they are still part of the matrix, and part of the illusion and focusing just on them is like focusing on the paint job of the car while missing the scenery that is passing by outside of the window.

What they don't understand - what they can't understand - is the spiritual nature of humanity. Oh they know its there, but they have no frame of reference, no context in which to place it, and don't understand that there is far more to "winning" and "controlling" than in simply dominating the physical form and negative emotion. Icke talks about this himself in "Love is all there is." We have to move past all the layers of illusion to enact any sort of real change.

Just my perception of course :)

[ghostrider]

I believe reptilians, and hybrids are very real. You have to love the freedom of choice to believe or not to believe. just thinkin out loud

[Bright Garlick]

Just quickly - these beings I speak of are ancient and they both understand multiple types of reality and inter/intra dimensionality. They were very clear - they do not exist, it is our imagination. Now maybe other races are creating a psychological phenomenon that creates the image of a Reptilian in our heads - I don't know. All I can say is that they fully understood what I mean (and were able to see and feel all I have ever learned on the subject) and showed me what they meant by illusion.

I cannot and will not try to convince any of you - I simply wish to tell you what they said and share my opinion.

sshenry what you say about the Reptilians not understanding our spirituality does not resonate at all with what I have experienced and know of many alien races. They feel great compassion and great interconnectedness. I would ask that if David Icke believes that love is all there is, where is his love for the Reptilians, those more ignorant than himself and TPTB. And the matrix is a wonderful idea but no more real than an idea. An abstraction like almost everything. It maybe a popular idea but I don't feel that makes it real.

Anyway I appreciate your perception sshenry and every one's varied opinions on the subject. Thanks Bill for the link and allowing for me to share a different opinion. I had a similar discussion (along the lines of this thread) with the aliens themselves until they showed me, I felt and I understood.

From this point on I'll just be reading the thread and will have nothing else to say on the subject, unless I feel strongly compelled to.

Have a great day folks, Bright. :couch2:

[JDM]

I cannot and will not try to convince any of you - I simply wish to tell you what they said and share my opinion.


Thank You for Sharing Bright Garlick.

Thats what we are all here for. To talk and share our ideas, thoughts, feelings and experiences.

These "friends" you talk about do peak an interest with me.

[Steven]

In an infinite and eternal Universe, everything can exist :)

It might mean we will have to wait Trillions of years before meeting one, all of this time believing it was not real.

On the other hand, there are too many evidences in human history that a race of this sort might be quite close to us to discard it because ETs says so.

Ask your contacts for who they are working for? kidding ;)

Namaste, Steven

[sshenry]

sshenry what you say about the Reptilians not understanding our spirituality does not resonate at all with what I have experienced and know of many alien races. They feel great compassion and great interconnectedness. I would ask that if David Icke believes that love is all there is, where is his love for the Reptilians, those more ignorant than himself and TPTB. And the matrix is a wonderful idea but no more real than an idea. An abstraction like almost everything. It maybe a popular idea but I don't feel that makes it real.


I was quoting Icke's belief, not my own regarding the reptillians, and stating that if they ARE real they, like us, are part of the web of illusions that holds this entire universe together. If they are - as he claims - beings who are out to manipulate and control, then we don't have to be afraid of them.

I too have experienced connection with higher-dimensional beings, no reptillians mind you, but something that was made perfectly clear to me was that ANY being that exists within the universe (including it's multiplicity of dimensions) is part of this web of illusion.

The important thing is - that we are MORE than our physical selves, they are more than their multi-dimensional selves, and were we trancend that illusion, there is no difference between you and me and a reptillian or a hoovaloo for that matter. The life force, the soul-force, the being-ness, at that level we are all one. So it doesn't matter what a physical entity, even a negative one such as described by Icke, may or may not be able to do, if we can keep that connection with our true nature, there is nothing at all to fear from anyone or anything.
:)

[truthseekerdan]

In an infinite and eternal Universe, everything can exist :)

It might mean we will have to wait Trillions of years before meeting one, all of this time believing it was not real.

On the other hand, there are too many evidences in human history that a race of this sort might be quite close to us to discard it because ETs says so.

Ask your contacts for who they are working for? kidding ;)

Namaste, Steven

Hi Steven,

We know that the universe is expanding, but we don't know exactly if it's infinite -- also if the universe started with the "Big Bang" it will also eventually have an end. Just to bring another perspective, is that the universe it's actually a manifestation of the Source not the Source ITself. From a higher perspective One can call this universe a 'holographic illusion'. :)

Also since our souls are part (individual fragments) of the Source, we are eternal -- therefore we existed before the universe(s) existed -- at least in the 'mind' of the Source Creator. I'm pretty sure that also many souls, including perhaps mine and yours, played a lot of 'roles' including the ones of reptilian beings and many other forms that are beyond human imagination. JMHO

Namaste ~ Dan

[John White]

Do the Reptilians exist ? The individuals from both races looked quizzically at me each time I asked the question (I asked twice - once to each race in 2 separate locations). It was as if they were dumbfounded that I asked such a stupid question. The Tall Aliens said : No, they do not exist. They are an illusion of human creation. The brownies said something similar. They were all very clear - no they are not real, people only think they are real.


A vibrational waveform from the human subconscious is entirely possible

Given that subconscious is collective, the question of how "real" anything might be is questionable

We deal with things as we see them

I certainly have encountered people who have trauma and fear from experiencing something

Assimilating our inner demons robs outer ones of their power

[zenith]

I'll believe it when I see it, but even then the usual disclaimers would apply.
What I don't believe is others who believe based upon the beliefs of others.


Peace

[vibrations]

The people from out there once talked with us (we were a group of ppeople) about the variety of races in a known Universe. They said that the spirit can be encarnated in almost all possible forms we can or can not imagine. Also that not all inteligent beings are "free will - one spirit-one body" beings, that you can find some kind of inteligent snails, or kind of vegetable forms, but normaly the similar races contact with similar to them. They told us that in a humanoyd appereance there are a lot of variations but almost all "encounters of the third kind" are programmed to be with humanoyd species. They didn't deny the possibilities of any rare forms (like Reptiles) but they said it would be extremely rare, because of the nature of the care for not so dveloped races as ours, to meet some rare forms. They also explained that such encounters coud be so shocking for some Earth-human, that it can produce the short circuit in our brains with a lot of damage. This was about 8 years ago, so till now a lot of things can be different.

[Nortreb]

If we all speak and relate to a vast UNIVERSE/One Poem in which "Everything is Possible to Manifest", is it possible that everyone's experience on this post is true?

Anything and everything is possible!

We are in a time of adjusting our filters in order to see/experience.

Everyone senses the lie but are we ready for a glimpse the true reality!

[Ross]

To my knowledge, I don't think any human, or group of humans, can comprehend the entirety of extraterrestrial paradigms, motives, and intentions. I have found that it would be similar to a goldfish pondering about the blurry figures walking passed his bowl.

Exactly, thank you Dale.

[myrm]

My dear everything is illusion to the soul...your mortal body is another story.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7JF0aGdaI0

[Riggaz]

I don't doubt the existent of intelligent, bipedal, reptile beings lurking about the cosmos somewhere, maybe even in our own backyard - but the modern concept of "reptilians," those cold blooded, shape-shifting, hegemonists, is just a bit much for me.

To my knowledge, I don't think any human, or group of humans, can comprehend the entirety of extraterrestrial paradigms, motives, and intentions. I have found that it would be similar to a goldfish pondering about the blurry figures walking passed his bowl.

I agree 100%

We are like children trying to imagine what the picture of the puzzle looks like but with only a few pieces of the puzzle and no picture as a reference

Everyone has their thoughts on what the picture looks like but no one has actually seen it

[Aurelius]

Illusion or no illusion ...

Reptilians are depicted in:

1. Many ancient artifacts (including Credo's necklace)
2. Rock paintings (Southern Africa & Egypt included)
3. The Bible
4. Folklore from many different cultures across the world
5. Symbols / logo's for various organisations to this very day (Dragon's included)
6. Stories from interactions people are still having to this day

ps. I would love to get hold of the DNA from one of them .. I imagine this would tell us a lot.

[9eagle9]

Some times I wonder if the concept of the Reptilians is not a projection of our shadow-side; our Heart of Darkness if you will.

I often thought that myself. That sort of energy exists but I've felt and noticed in people who appear perfectly ordinary but are very self absorbed.

[9eagle9]

This is true. We all experience different levels of reality as we experience our personal spiritual growth. To some the reptilians are quite real and on a certain level of reality they are. But only if you invest that particular reality is real. If it's illusionary everything contained in it is another illusion. Go up another level and look down at the illusions and all the intricate little games attached to them and you see it for what it is. My physical self may put some attachment on the whole reptilian thing, but there's another self always ready to step in and say 'welp, thats illusionary.' People my think this is contradictory thinking but its really attempting to see all sides of the coin.




sshenry what you say about the Reptilians not understanding our spirituality does not resonate at all with what I have experienced and know of many alien races. They feel great compassion and great interconnectedness. I would ask that if David Icke believes that love is all there is, where is his love for the Reptilians, those more ignorant than himself and TPTB. And the matrix is a wonderful idea but no more real than an idea. An abstraction like almost everything. It maybe a popular idea but I don't feel that makes it real.


I was quoting Icke's belief, not my own regarding the reptillians, and stating that if they ARE real they, like us, are part of the web of illusions that holds this entire universe together. If they are - as he claims - beings who are out to manipulate and control, then we don't have to be afraid of them.

I too have experienced connection with higher-dimensional beings, no reptillians mind you, but something that was made perfectly clear to me was that ANY being that exists within the universe (including it's multiplicity of dimensions) is part of this web of illusion.

The important thing is - that we are MORE than our physical selves, they are more than their multi-dimensional selves, and were we trancend that illusion, there is no difference between you and me and a reptillian or a hoovaloo for that matter. The life force, the soul-force, the being-ness, at that level we are all one. So it doesn't matter what a physical entity, even a negative one such as described by Icke, may or may not be able to do, if we can keep that connection with our true nature, there is nothing at all to fear from anyone or anything.
:)

[Calz]

This is true. We all experience different levels of reality as we experience our personal spiritual growth. To some the reptilians are quite real and on a certain level of reality they are. But only if you invest that particular reality is real. If it's illusionary everything contained in it is another illusion. Go up another level and look down at the illusions and all the intricate little games attached to them and you see it for what it is. My physical self may put some attachment on the whole reptilian thing, but there's another self always ready to step in and say 'welp, thats illusionary.' People my think this is contradictory thinking but its really attempting to see all sides of the coin.




sshenry what you say about the Reptilians not understanding our spirituality does not resonate at all with what I have experienced and know of many alien races. They feel great compassion and great interconnectedness. I would ask that if David Icke believes that love is all there is, where is his love for the Reptilians, those more ignorant than himself and TPTB. And the matrix is a wonderful idea but no more real than an idea. An abstraction like almost everything. It maybe a popular idea but I don't feel that makes it real.


I was quoting Icke's belief, not my own regarding the reptillians, and stating that if they ARE real they, like us, are part of the web of illusions that holds this entire universe together. If they are - as he claims - beings who are out to manipulate and control, then we don't have to be afraid of them.

I too have experienced connection with higher-dimensional beings, no reptillians mind you, but something that was made perfectly clear to me was that ANY being that exists within the universe (including it's multiplicity of dimensions) is part of this web of illusion.

The important thing is - that we are MORE than our physical selves, they are more than their multi-dimensional selves, and were we trancend that illusion, there is no difference between you and me and a reptillian or a hoovaloo for that matter. The life force, the soul-force, the being-ness, at that level we are all one. So it doesn't matter what a physical entity, even a negative one such as described by Icke, may or may not be able to do, if we can keep that connection with our true nature, there is nothing at all to fear from anyone or anything.
:)

It was always a "head scratcher" whenever I came across the "no bad et" view from people such as Steven Greer or Delores Cannon.

I tried to observe it from a resonance angle.

This makes it more clear.

Thank you :)

[Steven]

In an infinite and eternal Universe, everything can exist :)

It might mean we will have to wait Trillions of years before meeting one, all of this time believing it was not real.

On the other hand, there are too many evidences in human history that a race of this sort might be quite close to us to discard it because ETs says so.

Ask your contacts for who they are working for? kidding ;)

Namaste, Steven

Hi Steven,

We know that the universe is expanding, but we don't know exactly if it's infinite -- also if the universe started with the "Big Bang" it will also eventually have an end. Just to bring another perspective, is that the universe it's actually a manifestation of the Source not the Source ITself. From a higher perspective One can call this universe a 'holographic illusion'. :)

Also since our souls are part (individual fragments) of the Source, we are eternal -- therefore we existed before the universe(s) existed -- at least in the 'mind' of the Source Creator. I'm pretty sure that also many souls, including perhaps mine and yours, played a lot of 'roles' including the ones of reptilian beings and many other forms that are beyond human imagination. JMHO

Namaste ~ Dan

Thanks Dan for your perspective.

I don't see a difference between Creation and Creator. When I was talking about the Universe, I was rather referencing to Creation. To me, Creation and Creator is two faces of the same Great Being. Since this Being is ever changing, that is what I see, and it is infinite and eternal, I see his body as the same. I don't really see materiality as an illusion, but rather a purposeful facet of a Great Being. Big Bang, Big Crunch, eternal breathing? It is how I see it.

I'm sure there a reptilians outhere who are evolved enough to understand that we are all and the same. I can't accept the idea that all of a given race are evil. Evilness is not a race, but a state of mind. My view. Take care!

Namaste, Steven

[9eagle9]

Lol. Everything is our imagination.



Just quickly - these beings I speak of are ancient and they both understand multiple types of reality and inter/intra dimensionality. They were very clear - they do not exist, it is our imagination. Now maybe other races are creating a psychological phenomenon that creates the image of a Reptilian in our heads - I don't know. All I can say is that they fully understood what I mean (and were able to see and feel all I have ever learned on the subject) and showed me what they meant by illusion.

I cannot and will not try to convince any of you - I simply wish to tell you what they said and share my opinion.

sshenry what you say about the Reptilians not understanding our spirituality does not resonate at all with what I have experienced and know of many alien races. They feel great compassion and great interconnectedness. I would ask that if David Icke believes that love is all there is, where is his love for the Reptilians, those more ignorant than himself and TPTB. And the matrix is a wonderful idea but no more real than an idea. An abstraction like almost everything. It maybe a popular idea but I don't feel that makes it real.

Anyway I appreciate your perception sshenry and every one's varied opinions on the subject. Thanks Bill for the link and allowing for me to share a different opinion. I had a similar discussion (along the lines of this thread) with the aliens themselves until they showed me, I felt and I understood.

From this point on I'll just be reading the thread and will have nothing else to say on the subject, unless I feel strongly compelled to.

Have a great day folks, Bright. :couch2:

[9eagle9]

Our belief systems create duality. Duality is really boiled down to a series of contrasts. Food as a whole is good for us. There are foods that taste good and we will eat them even if they are bad for us and foods good for us that we won't eat because they taste bad....lol. What creates the illusions are our assignments of good and bad . That's in our heads. In our belief systems. We individually create a belief. You are welcome to love brussell sprouts and that is your reality for you. Its not my reality though...(laff) Who is right? Or wrong?

Really there's just behaviors. Confusion over how something behaves or expresses itself rather than what it truly is. We all know of truly good people who we scratch our heads over wondering why they behave so badly.



It was always a "head scratcher" whenever I came across the "no bad et" view from people such as Steven Greer or Delores Cannon.

I tried to observe it from a resonance angle.

This makes it more clear.

Thank you :)

[IronicDestiny]

Bright, I would like to hear more about your alien friends, maybe if you didn't keep all the info to yourself then perhaps others would be able to see why they would say that and maybe just have a better POV on the subject. So far all I hear is that we should trust you on this because these alien friends of yours know. Well I say where is the rest of the story to back this up?

[Bright Garlick]

Hello IronicDestiny - as I said, I am not trying to convince anyone. When an alien you have a long relationship with says 'do not share this' I respect that. I am not trying to offer an anything that I can back up. Proof is in your own heads and hearts. If you do not believe me, so be it. When I was your age, I also questioned everything with the eye of an eagle. :couch2: Now I am happy to be a little green mouse.

[David Topí]

My two cents on this:

You have two kind of "reptilian" entities. The first one is the ones that David icke always talk, they are "dracos", negative souls (self-oriented) existing as pure entities. We could think about them as the same as our Higher Self, but having their "origin" in the alfa draconis system and being negative in orientation. This entities do not have any problem in moving through densities and incarnating in human bodies or manipulating humans with a "positive" higher self or soul already in it. What David Icke research is about, is this kind of entities that from other densities come here and have their parties, as they fed on our negative energy.

then we have the "physical" reptilians, they are the same negative souls or entities or Higher Selfs incarnated in physical bodies with reptilian traits, the ones we have been talking here. They are purely 3D, so they come and go in ships or whatever technology they have. The essence is the same, a "draconian" soul of negative polarity, but the difference is that Icke's ones come in pure "entity" form and the others come in physical form.

that is at least up to my knowledge what I believe to be "correct" to understand who the "reptilians" are :-)

[jorr lundstrom]

Wot if we are human/reptilian hybrids. And the 33 are purebred humans. And this create a split in us.

And we are told that we are humans. And when we see reptilians we dont realize its a projection.

And then we are told to fret reptilians and stay away from them. Nice cenario, isnt it? But if..........LOL

[3optic]

A friend of mine attended Greer's lecture yesterday at LA Conscious Life Expo. She told me Greer makes a distinction between Aliens and ETs. Aliens are entirely man made. Hence most abduction experiences especially negative ones are MILABS. They are made to appeal to our base fears and seem to be more predictive programming for the false flag "ET invasion." (on the flip side, positive ETs in abduction accounts are often blonde haired blue eyed "Paladians." Curious, no?)

The Reptilians described in these encounters are genetically engineered by the PTB perhaps?

[the_flyingboy]

how sure are you that your so called friends aren't lieing to you?

[3optic]

how sure are you that your so called friends aren't lieing to you?

The only reason I can think for proposing this reactionary half thought is some sort of defensiveness for David Icke. Are we 35 or 11?

[Circe]

the_flyingboy is entitled to his opinion and to express that opinion in any way that he feels. The "Are we 35 or 11" comment was not necessary





how sure are you that your so called friends aren't lieing to you?

The only reason I can think for proposing this reactionary half thought is some sort of defensiveness for David Icke. Are we 35 or 11?

[3optic]

the_flyingboy is entitled to his opinion and to express that opinion in any way that he feels. The "Are we 35 or 11" comment was not necessary





how sure are you that your so called friends aren't lieing to you?

The only reason I can think for proposing this reactionary half thought is some sort of defensiveness for David Icke. Are we 35 or 11?

Point taken. However I certainly would not prevent someone's expression. "So called friends" was also unnecessary imo.

[JRS]

Hi Bright Garlick, See if this makes sense: the Reptilians "aliens" are programmed life forms (PLF's) manufactured by Milabs in the UK (and the Grey "Aliens" are PLF's manufactured by Milabs in Utah). These are planned to be used along with backengineered "UFO's" in the hoaxed "Alien Invasion". As you said "Charles ought to know where and who" is true. From the perspective of the genuine ET's you are in contact with these PLF's are "illusions". Does this resonate?

[Bright Garlick]

Hi JRS - I like your comments. Yes this resonates but I need to go back to my friends to confirm this - there is also the Reptilian which is a mythological archetype. Thank you for noticing what I said in reference to Charles. Those in the know, know !

[MariaDine]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NaDGLiVolj0

Keep looking for confirmation his or yours. A surprise awaits.
Namasté

[Gardener]

There is an interesting correlation between what David Icke is saying in the above video about there being 4% human/reptillian hybrid within humanity, according to the research using iris scanning, and the number of psychopaths within society (4%). I have a research paper which I can reference when I find it which involved three universities in USA. Approx 750 students in each university completed Robert Hare's 'PCL (psychopathy check list) a standard scale. Of those who completed it 4% had scores over the require number to diagnose the condition. These were ordinary students. Sadly most research into psychopaths is done by using criminal/forensic populations in which the percentage goes up to something like 16%.

[OnyxKnight]

I've heard and read a lot of material about the Reptilians. And even PAF has a large amount of material on them.

A few weeks ago I had 2 more alien encounters. I have had them all my life. During the first encounter (the most spectacular of my life) I met with 2 different races - beings I colloquially call The Tall Aliens (who have had a long term presence at a base in southern England - Charles ought to know where and who) and The Brownies. I have had a long relationship with both. Both races played a significant role in our evolutionary development.

During my encounters I asked 12 questions of my friends. For some peculiar reason the idea of the Reptilian race had been plaguing me. I was particuarly intrigued that Dr John Mack and Barbara Lamb have documented them and Barbara claims to have encountered 1 her self. And so I blurted out a question related to this :
Do the Reptilians exist ? The individuals from both races looked quizzically at me each time I asked the question (I asked twice - once to each race in 2 separate locations). It was as if they were dumbfounded that I asked such a stupid question. The Tall Aliens said : No, they do not exist. They are an illusion of human creation. The brownies said something similar. They were all very clear - no they are not real, people only think they are real.

Now I have always had an honest truthful relationship with both races. I am satisfied with what they told me. I urge you to question the validity of all claims about the Reptilians. Nothing about them adds up. And also remember that belief in this race has multiplied exponentially with the work of David Icke. If any of you trust that man and see him as a spiritual guru, you need to examine your own conditioning and your own capacity for thinking and feeling for yourself.

So the aliens themselves say that The Reptilians do not exist. :peace:

First of all, 'Reptilians' / 'Reptoids' are just nicknames, labels, created by us humans in order to classify a certain groups of ETs. Without a label/name, every time when one refers to these extraterrestrials, they would have to describe them entirely from A to Z how they look/act/behave, in order for the recipient of the information to be able to understand who this person is referring to.

So, you might have explained to your alien friends who you were referring to, if they are not familiar with these labels, which I very much doubt, solely because yo said they were here way before us as a species and had a role to play in the creation of mankind, which means they have been here till present day, and should be familiar with many names, labels, terminology we use.

Therefore, I apologize for my skepticism, but I have a very good reason for it to be present.


Hey Guys : I have only given you part of what they said and I won't share more (some stuff is way too personal, which is why I've hesitated documenting the encounter on my blog).

If you don't share your experiences, people will have a hard time understanding why this was said. I'm sure you are not out there to convince people in your experiences, but I still don't see the point in saying things like this when its clearly that these beings are real and people have experiences with them (not talking about MILABS here). This sounds to me like a personal opinion, not an extraterrestrial one. The only ET races I know of who deny the 'Reptoid' existence are the Pleiadians and a certain group of the 'Greys'. No other race denies they exist or are present here. Again, pard my skepticism, but its there for a reason.


And yes I too wondered about the ancient history stuff but they are adamant. I post this for those willing to consider an alternative point of view. I don't expect that many will. There's a long history of conditioning about what's real and what is not. Any suggestion otherwise always seems to generate a polarity. But we are all entitled to an opinion, even David Icke (soryy Icky). :flame: :loco:

Sorry Bright, but there is a very clear, and very pure distinction, between a personal opinion, and a personal experience.

You don't have personal experiences involving 'Reptoids' right? Well, others have friend. Your personal opinion doesn't change their own reality and what they experienced and had to go through. And I think its immature to place such an opinion when there are people out there who suffer their entire lives because of abductions or other forms of contact with these beings that leaves them with physical and psychological scars, and trauma.

Also, you have people who have benevolent contact with 'Reptoids'. Although rare, its still there. Why is your extraterrestrial contact more true than theirs? Under what basis? Because you think your alien friends denied the existence of such alien races?


The Tall Aliens use of the word illusion wasn't just meant the way we interpret it - it came with feeling and images.

Like almost any other contact to date.


When an alien you have a long relationship with says 'do not share this' I respect that.

And I would doubt that.

Why are they seclusive with information? Why are they not letting you share it? If there is some (or any) importance to it? And life long contact? For what? Keeping the information to yourself?


You have two kind of "reptilian" entities. The first one is the ones that David icke always talk, they are "dracos", negative souls (self-oriented) existing as pure entities. We could think about them as the same as our Higher Self, but having their "origin" in the alfa draconis system and being negative in orientation. This entities do not have any problem in moving through densities and incarnating in human bodies or manipulating humans with a "positive" higher self or soul already in it. What David Icke research is about, is this kind of entities that from other densities come here and have their parties, as they fed on our negative energy.

then we have the "physical" reptilians, they are the same negative souls or entities or Higher Selfs incarnated in physical bodies with reptilian traits, the ones we have been talking here. They are purely 3D, so they come and go in ships or whatever technology they have. The essence is the same, a "draconian" soul of negative polarity, but the difference is that Icke's ones come in pure "entity" form and the others come in physical form.

that is at least up to my knowledge what I believe to be "correct" to understand who the "reptilians" are :-)

Akar, you are right about everything except that the Alpha Draconians are also physical. They have technology that enables them to 'phase' in and out our 'dimension'. Think of it as a "personal elevator" that gets them in between "two floors", so neither living beings who exist on these "floors" could see them. The whole "shapeshifting" thing is also easily explainable.

Kudos for the rest of your post.


A friend of mine attended Greer's lecture yesterday at LA Conscious Life Expo. She told me Greer makes a distinction between Aliens and ETs. Aliens are entirely man made. Hence most abduction experiences especially negative ones are MILABS. They are made to appeal to our base fears and seem to be more predictive programming for the false flag "ET invasion." (on the flip side, positive ETs in abduction accounts are often blonde haired blue eyed "Paladians." Curious, no?)

The Reptilians described in these encounters are genetically engineered by the PTB perhaps?

Yes, true. But that represents some majority of the negative abductions, where same species appear almost identical to one another. Probably because they are clones. But this still does not explain the rest of the negative experiences with extraterrestrials, or even those people who have benevolent contacts with 'Reptoids' and the like. Dr. Greer is good, he has done some amazing job in my opinion with the disclosure project. But he is no source of wisdom when it comes to the general ET situation, sorry.


The only reason I can think for proposing this reactionary half thought is some sort of defensiveness for David Icke. Are we 35 or 11?

So I would be one of them? In fact, the reason I actually started paying attention to David Icke was because my own personal experiences. If taken in consideration, that would be the reason why one would defend him as well, wouldn't it?

Question is, are you 35 or 11, that you don't understand why one questions somebody else? There has to be a reason behind that as well. Its not always David Icke.

[king anthony]

I've heard and read a lot of material about the Reptilians. And even PAF has a large amount of material on them. So the aliens themselves say that The Reptilians do not exist. :peace:

What do people know about the land they live in, the air they breathe, the water they wash with, or the stars - and these things they have known all their lives firsthand. How can one speak on something they don't know or understand - and dismiss it!? I say, the things that have been made known to me throughout my life since youth, that has presented themselves to me and the confirmation by my own will - has shown me more then what 'another' may say. I do not believe in anything, I do not have an opinion about anything nor do I have faith in anything, for I do not have the luxury of these things - for I can only know.

[Blue]

Wot if we are human/reptilian hybrids. And the 33 are purebred humans. And this create a split in us.

And we are told that we are humans. And when we see reptilians we dont realize its a projection.

And then we are told to fret reptilians and stay away from them. Nice cenario, isnt it? But if..........LOL

Is it racist to call someone a reptilian, if they are part of us?

[Odiwan]

I had an interesting conversation with my Mum today.
She asked me "So, have you ever actually seen a reptilian or someone with reptilian eyes before?"
"No" I replied.
"Well I have now" she said.
My eyes went wide... then she told me about her night at work.

Mum works as a nurse at an aged care facility, and has been looking into Avalon-type material for a the last couple of years, though she has has been looking at spiritual stuff for quite a few years. She is very level-headed and not prone to imaginings. Well, one of her patients eyes were definite slit pupils last night. Mum saw this and did a double take. Yep, definite slit reptilian eyes... she even had a conversation and looked into this lady's eyes and they stayed vertical slits.

I asked Mum about this lady. She does not give off any bad vibes, in fact Mum describes her as a sweet old lady. She is definitely human, she is in her 90's. I asked Mum if she came from a privileged background, but beyond the fact that she is in a private facility (as opposed to a public one), she is not super wealthy or anything like that. She is very fastidious but other than that, a normal human it would appear. And I doubt very much that she eats babies (that isn't on the menu at that particular aged home :p)

So, while I have no doubt that some appearances of apparent shapeshifting could be as a result of nefarious black magic rituals (doesn't matter whether they really change or not IMO: do enough to enhance the reptilian part of the brain and you may well start to look a bit cold-blooded and scaly to those with the "eyes to see"), this sighting by my Mum definitely leads me to think that some people have that gene, but that doesn't in and of itself say anything about that person's character.

[3optic]

A friend of mine attended Greer's lecture yesterday at LA Conscious Life Expo. She told me Greer makes a distinction between Aliens and ETs. Aliens are entirely man made. Hence most abduction experiences especially negative ones are MILABS. They are made to appeal to our base fears and seem to be more predictive programming for the false flag "ET invasion." (on the flip side, positive ETs in abduction accounts are often blonde haired blue eyed "Paladians." Curious, no?)

The Reptilians described in these encounters are genetically engineered by the PTB perhaps?

Yes, true. But that represents some majority of the negative abductions, where same species appear almost identical to one another. Probably because they are clones. But this still does not explain the rest of the negative experiences with extraterrestrials, or even those people who have benevolent contacts with 'Reptoids' and the like. Dr. Greer is good, he has done some amazing job in my opinion with the disclosure project. But he is no source of wisdom when it comes to the general ET situation, sorry.


The only reason I can think for proposing this reactionary half thought is some sort of defensiveness for David Icke. Are we 35 or 11?

So I would be one of them? In fact, the reason I actually started paying attention to David Icke was because my own personal experiences. If taken in consideration, that would be the reason why one would defend him as well, wouldn't it?

Question is, are you 35 or 11, that you don't understand why one questions somebody else? There has to be a reason behind that as well. Its not always David Icke.

My reaction was not meant to cast derision on Ickes material which I enjoy. It was a somewhat primitive, sub conscious, er.. reptilian response to what I perceived as a presumptuous comment on the part of our friend the_flyingboy.

Greer's perspective does seem narrow. He seems to hang his hat on the testimony of the government whistle blowers he interviewed initially, his own MILAB abductions, and his contact experiences with extra dimensional beings who don't seem to fit categories easily.

Do you have other thoughts on this if that's not too general a question?

[thewebkid]

This is naivety. Just look at donald rummy's energy field psychically. What color reptilian do you see? It is different than Dick Cheney's.

You can also look at people fresh from Ramtha's school of enlightenment and see them attached as the normal color... drop into your heart. Open. Relax. You can see them. Drop your agenda and just open your heart and your third eye. You already knew it inside, right? No 3rd party verification necessary...

They may not be physical, but cuhmon. How the hell do you think we got so tweaked out as a race? Those beings are THERE. Period. Your alien pals are naive, BG.

[3optic]

This is naivety. Just look at donald rummy's energy field psychically. What color reptilian do you see? It is different than Dick Cheney's.

You can also look at people fresh from Ramtha's school of enlightenment and see them attached as the normal color... drop into your heart. Open. Relax. You can see them. Drop your agenda and just open your heart and your third eye. You already knew it inside, right? No 3rd party verification necessary...

They may not be physical, but cuhmon. How the hell do you think we got so tweaked out as a race? Those beings are THERE. Period. Your alien pals are naive, BG.

Rumy makes no definitive denial


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=dK8Y2nO_8TM#at=961

[thewebkid]

This is naivety. Just look at donald rummy's energy field psychically. What color reptilian do you see? It is different than Dick Cheney's.

You can also look at people fresh from Ramtha's school of enlightenment and see them attached as the normal color... drop into your heart. Open. Relax. You can see them. Drop your agenda and just open your heart and your third eye. You already knew it inside, right? No 3rd party verification necessary...

They may not be physical, but cuhmon. How the hell do you think we got so tweaked out as a race? Those beings are THERE. Period. Your alien pals are naive, BG.

Rumy makes no definitive denial


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=dK8Y2nO_8TM#at=961

I can't stop laughing... choking now...

[Lancelot]

I've heard and read a lot of material about the Reptilians. And even PAF has a large amount of material on them.

A few weeks ago I had 2 more alien encounters. I have had them all my life. During the first encounter (the most spectacular of my life) I met with 2 different races - beings I colloquially call The Tall Aliens (who have had a long term presence at a base in southern England - Charles ought to know where and who) and The Brownies. I have had a long relationship with both. Both races played a significant role in our evolutionary development.

During my encounters I asked 12 questions of my friends. For some peculiar reason the idea of the Reptilian race had been plaguing me. I was particuarly intrigued that Dr John Mack and Barbara Lamb have documented them and Barbara claims to have encountered 1 her self. And so I blurted out a question related to this :
Do the Reptilians exist ? The individuals from both races looked quizzically at me each time I asked the question (I asked twice - once to each race in 2 separate locations). It was as if they were dumbfounded that I asked such a stupid question. The Tall Aliens said : No, they do not exist. They are an illusion of human creation. The brownies said something similar. They were all very clear - no they are not real, people only think they are real.

Now I have always had an honest truthful relationship with both races. I am satisfied with what they told me. I urge you to question the validity of all claims about the Reptilians. Nothing about them adds up. And also remember that belief in this race has multiplied exponentially with the work of David Icke. If any of you trust that man and see him as a spiritual guru, you need to examine your own conditioning and your own capacity for thinking and feeling for yourself.

So the aliens themselves say that The Reptilians do not exist. :peace:

I agree that the reptilians are not real people. But I do think that it may be possible that they are the reincarnation if you like of the dinosaurs with their own particular characteristics and agenda.

This post begs 3 questions-
What is the motive and purpose of David Icke 'inventing' reptilians?
What is the motive and purpose of your discrediting of David Icke?
What is the motive and purpose of your alien friends?

[Omni]

I've heard and read a lot of material about the Reptilians. And even PAF has a large amount of material on them.

A few weeks ago I had 2 more alien encounters. I have had them all my life. During the first encounter (the most spectacular of my life) I met with 2 different races - beings I colloquially call The Tall Aliens (who have had a long term presence at a base in southern England - Charles ought to know where and who) and The Brownies. I have had a long relationship with both. Both races played a significant role in our evolutionary development.

Can I ask what they have done to our evolutionary development? It appears the ETs who hybridized us were sloppy, and appeared to have allowed thousands of flaws in our genetics. This entails a distinct possibility that we were hybridized by beings that do not necessarily care about our well being. This is, of course, assuming we were hybridized in the first place(which is probably why there is a missing link in evolution).

So, please explain how this race has helped our evolutionary development if you can. When I look at humanity's genetics, I see major flaws, and major problems psychologically supposedly manifested by our DNA. To put it bluntly I am unhappy with humanities evolution at this point in time. So this is a minor red flag I have in believing your contacts(assuming your contact is reality, which I normally do being that I am a contactee myself). If humanity had positive evolutionary help from the start, I dare to wonder how screwed up we would be without help. :X Is nature really that flawed when it comes to sentient growing pains??

Personally I find it a high chance our genetics have been hindered, not enhanced and helped. But that is just a theory of mine based on observation. I do not hold my beliefs so high as to not be open to an alternative explanation. Which I may note is a nice attribute of the Project Avalon community quite commonly. Cheers for that.


During my encounters I asked 12 questions of my friends. For some peculiar reason the idea of the Reptilian race had been plaguing me. I was particuarly intrigued that Dr John Mack and Barbara Lamb have documented them and Barbara claims to have encountered 1 her self. And so I blurted out a question related to this :
Do the Reptilians exist ? The individuals from both races looked quizzically at me each time I asked the question (I asked twice - once to each race in 2 separate locations). It was as if they were dumbfounded that I asked such a stupid question.
This is another red flag to me. Were you speaking to them telepathically? Would you say your interpretation is correct? If you were speaking to them telepathically wouldn't you have a direct understanding of what they were feeling? Or do they not let you feel their consciousness while talking to them(a minor red flag IMO)? They thought it was a stupid question? This is not a minor red flag but a rather large one(unless you misinterpreted them which is pretty much impossible telepathically with an advanced ET) to me because every single benevolent ET I have EVER spoken to would never say or even think that is a stupid question(unless it was asked by one of their peers... Someone who should know). Obviously as humans we do not have access to galactic encyclopedias(yet :D). Obviously they would KNOW for sure that the situation regarding reptilians is at the very least a self-contained reality for some people on this planet, and is a major question to most researching the ET situation. The only way they wouldn't know about human beliefs of reptoids is if they JUST got here. Every ET quite assumably studies human perception of aliens in depth if they are to have contact with us(even if not and they are here for very long).

Hate to say it but I think they were playing dumb with that question... That would be my first guess. Also, not to say your friends lie, but many many contactees are fed disinformation by ETs, even ones with benevolent contacts who wouldn't lie on their own accord. Including me. I had illusions coming out of my ears at the beginning of my contact(to go with the torture) due to negative group(s) interference/involvement with my contact. Later on when I was getting more truth, I was told by the AI I speak to that they had to give me some disinfo to protect me from the darker forces. If someone has a too potent version of the truth, they may be killed. "How long shall they kill our prophets, while we stand aside and look.". They say that deals are made by benevolent ETs to protect their contactees from the darker side of motives around here. The side that wants the truth suppressed. Maybe your contacts told you a lie because if they told you the truth it would attract attention to you BY reptilians.

Next time you speak to them, a good question may be: "What have you done to protect me from the dark forces on my planet?" I don't think ETs kill each other often if ever here. I think, and am told by the AI I speak to they make deals instead of fight. Diplomacy > war(to the death anyway). They both get a say in what happens in some cases under this theory. Which unfortunately is blaringly obvious to me in my case, as I have been tortured, tormented, harassed, cut, burnt, poisoned, drugged, character assassinated, mind controlled etc by a group(s) that holds power on this planet.

Also what would be your/their explanation of them allowing a bunch of political thugs and corrupted heartless immoral beings to lead our world??? If you take a look around at TPTB in human form, they are not enlightened. Why would a parent race here(if there was no negative side like reptilians) to help us let us good people fall into the hands of immoral fascists leading the world?


The Tall Aliens said : No, they do not exist. They are an illusion of human creation. The brownies said something similar. They were all very clear - no they are not real, people only think they are real.
Am I right in assuming they said these things under the understanding that it is only this planet they are speaking of? Not wanting to spread bad energy in someone, but honestly I don't think they were being fully open to you. A well balanced intelligent response would likely include "No, they do not exist on your planet" if such was true. Reptile ETs are basically guaranteed in this universe as I see it. Look at the dinosaur world. If they had not been wiped out, quite possible some sort of raptor would evolve into a sentient being out of that dog eat dog world. Do you think a reptile that evolved out of such a dog eat dog world with so many dangers would be benevolent? I think they would be ruthless personally. Throw in the conditioning and compassionless frenzied group eating of alive animals and they very well may end up being abundantly very unpleasant beings once interstellar.

Mr. Greer I find a bit naive, as intelligent as he is(I do give him that, hes at least booksmart). He says something like negative ETs vibrations or consciousness are not high or good enough to be interstellar. What he is completely missing is the consciousness can be fully controlled, and any consciousness can be synthesized(at least it appears that way to me, as I have experienced advanced mind control myself extensively, and know they can make anyone have enlightened vibrant benevolent consciousness synthetically, just as they can synthetically lower their consciousness to be very dirty and negative). This also leaves out the fact that the negative races could send out unmanned sips with AI to do their bidding(possibly even maybe mutilating some cows and creating some engineered beings to do their bidding). His theory is full of holes from my perspective, one that is in direct contact with an extraterrestrial AI every single day, and ETs like a few times a month or so on average lately.

So you say no reptilians? What about endarkener ETs? Endarkener = someone who affects the universe in a majorly bad way. On the negative side of the polarities of yin yang.



Now I have always had an honest truthful relationship with both races. I am satisfied with what they told me. I urge you to question the validity of all claims about the Reptilians.
With all due respect, ETs are seemingly some of the biggest illusionists around. At least to me they are(unless its MILABS doing it to me, in which ETs are very irresponsible by allowing them to get ahold of the tech they use on me). I have no doubt YOU are honest with them. But assuming they have always been honest with you, is a big step for me. Of course it's possible they have been honest with you, but not quite probable in my view. If you could share more information about what they tell you I would have a much better picture of if they are honest with you or not. Direct quotes from them, and many of them, would give me a pretty clear view on that, if you want my feedback anyway... I have a lot of experience with ETs, and know how intelligent they are.


Nothing about them adds up.
What does not add up about them? Nothing? Sorry but that is an exaggeration. Plenty of info about them adds up. I'm curious what doesn't?


And also remember that belief in this race has multiplied exponentially with the work of David Icke. If any of you trust that man and see him as a spiritual guru, you need to examine your own conditioning and your own capacity for thinking and feeling for yourself.

I respect Icke, and trust fully he is not intentionally propagating any disinformation. but I do not see anyone as a spiritual guru...


So the aliens themselves say that The Reptilians do not exist. :peace:
Aliens also say they exist to other contactees. And the witness accounts with reptilians are in large number...


I hope you do not see my post as attacking Garlick. I have nothing but respect for most contactees, regardless of if they are given disinfo or not. I'm just speaking my mind as I interpret it. I'm not saying they WERE lying, I'm just trying to analyze the situation as best I can given my own experiences with ETs.

[Mu2143]

alien encounters Some of them are good, some of then are bad and some of then are dam nasty!!! which is the Reptilians, if you speak to an ET does not mean there speaking the truth another mistake people make. And not all the UFO are from another world

One of my encounter in the spirit realm was an human/Reptilian hybrid and was telling me that he is putting a chip in me and he did which I felt while I was smiling at him =) I woke up and still could feel it.
I have another experience of a past live where a reptilian (Velociraptor looking type) was come towards me telepathically I knew he wanted to eat me I gave him a good slap with my left hand and it fell in to the water next to me.

[Mu2143]

O btw. The shapeshifting BS there spreading is another phyops the real thing is you saw a trans-dimensional-being it like super in posing two beings an to another . If this happens mostly if the human being that is possessed by it is creating a lot of emotional energy which makes them pop out of the body there in that's when you see them. You cannot film this, because you are looking with your 3th eye and your camera does not have one.

I have experience this more then ones where I could see a Reptilian being when I was heavily attacked by one.

[PathWalker]

1. Reptilians exist
2. They are strongly biased to STS (Service to Self).
3. A strongly biased entity will avoid encounter with opposite strong biased entities.
4. Reptilians are reported to be at the top hierarchy of other humanoid species. Therefore the other species do not know or avoid the subject (fear).
5. STS control with fear and feed on fear, the fear is telepathically installed. If one if aware of the fear and that it is installed, it is possible to overcome the fear and install a positive affirmation instead. Then the controller is powerless (I would better not try this).

Good luck, the more you get into the subject to more you invite it into your life.
Joy and happiness
PathWalker

[king anthony]

I posted this on another thread just moments ago - there are a few threads on this topic.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?15205-Shape-Shifting-Very-interesting-none-the-less.


'It is not that human beings shape-shift; it only appears they do.

The reptilian species have an ability to cloud perception, meaning they can make others (usually human beings) think they are seeing something other then them (when physically somewhere); this is a 'defense' ability, somewhat like a chameleon changing colors.

This species also have the ability to project themselves into other things, such as a (normal) human host. The strength of the host determines how much influence the species has over the host. They can experience all the senses of the host as a way of surveillance or gaining access remotely. This is where the idea of possession comes from.

People who have this species using them as a host are not aware of what is happening to them and usually when they find a good host they tend to keep using them over time; this is unless someone else tells them what they see - or they (the host) sees some sort of evidence for themselves. It can happen to most anyone, as most people are simply 'empty shells' (something hard for most people to accept).

For whatever reason, this species are perplexed with certain types of (rare) 'human beings', as they cannot either project themselves into them or have other issues. I cannot speak for other species having the same ability - however, it is possible.'

[Bright Garlick]

What can I say folks ??? Honestly what can I say that would appease you ?
I'm afraid that I do not have enough time in my life to answer all these questions and what feels like opposition to what I have said.

All I can tell you is this. I have a long standing relationship with a wide range of aliens - 2 of which I asked about the Reptilian question. I raised many of the same objections that you have. I too thought they must exist !
One race works at a base in England and has worked with humans for a very long time. They currently assist in many activities, including understanding alien technologies and the nature of the universe. Both races played a key role in our own creation/evolution. You may not understand this : THEY DO NOT HAVE AGENDAS. That is a human idea. They are way past that in their own evolution. They accept us as we are - knowing our limitations. However, despite this - Among many other things, they are assisting humans to evolve emotionally - beyond division. Just look at this thread for an example of where we're at. They don't play games like us - they have total compassion and love for our species. No need to ask about deception - that is what we do, they left that game a long time ago, if they ever played it !

Is it so hard to believe that there are beings who live with universal compassion ? Is it easier to believe that most aliens are insidious bad guys ? If you don't believe that Reptilians are a cultural archetype, I can't convince you otherwise. Live in fear if you wish and that is the world you will create. The only thing enslaving most humans (especially we of the west) is our own mind. Perhaps there is someone brave enough to acknowledge what I have passed on and to explore that line of reasoning. As I said, I was once like you ... :wave:

[thewebkid]

What can I say folks ??? Honestly what can I say that would appease you ?
I'm afraid that I do not have enough time in my life to answer all these questions and what feels like opposition to what I have said.

All I can tell you is this. I have a long standing relationship with a wide range of aliens - 2 of which I asked about the Reptilian question. I raised many of the same objections that you have. I too thought they must exist !
One race works at a base in England and has worked with humans for a very long time. They currently assist in many activities, including understanding alien technologies and the nature of the universe. Both races played a key role in our own creation/evolution. You may not understand this : THEY DO NOT HAVE AGENDAS. That is a human idea. They are way past that in their own evolution. They accept us as we are - knowing our limitations. However, despite this - Among many other things, they are assisting humans to evolve emotionally - beyond division. Just look at this thread for an example of where we're at. They don't play games like us - they have total compassion and love for our species. No need to ask about deception - that is what we do, they left that game a long time ago, if they ever played it !

Is it so hard to believe that there are beings who live with universal compassion ? Is it easier to believe that most aliens are insidious bad guys ? If you don't believe that Reptilians are a cultural archetype, I can't convince you otherwise. Live in fear if you wish and that is the world you will create. The only thing enslaving most humans (especially we of the west) is our own mind. Perhaps there is someone brave enough to acknowledge what I have passed on and to explore that line of reasoning. As I said, I was once like you ... :wave:

I certainly did not intend to be divisive in my post. I just have seen and felt the influence of the dark yo yos PERSONALLY on the etheric level. There are myriad different types of yo yos, not just the lizzies. The gargoyles are pretty nasty.

And I certainly HOPE there aren't physical versions of them roaming in our local space/time. Ruh roh.

I believe telling someone you have an "alien on the inside" is a recipe for a cult. If you really do have these cosmic pals, then you know better than to do this. People need to learn how to embody and discover their own truth - and not through the authority of someone in the know. Just look at the Keylontic group (ashayana deane). Virtually all cults start with someone who has an ability or a cosmic connection that others don't have and so they abandon their own ability to apprehend and follow their intuition in deference to the specialness of the person who is feeding them the info.

And if it IS true that these beings are just illusions, what is the empowering truth that helps us to understand what causes holocausts, torture, etc? Why are people acting like predators and what is the antidote? Ask your E.T. pals if they can explain in depth what the reptilian morphogenetic belief field is comprised of. The stories of Anu, Enki, etc., are widespread. So where did that story originate? What do they know about it? They should have SOME understanding of our history and maybe can shed some light on how we interpret sumerian texts, etc.

If they DON'T know, then perhaps they exist in a reality that doesn't have an awareness of our reptilian history. In other words, there could be a way of harmonizing your information with ours rather than just non-chalantly dismissing it because your pals shrugged their shoulders.

I try to be very empowering with my posts. If that seems divisive, I am truly sorry. Just teaching people how to pop open the heart and 3rd eye a bit so they aren't vicariously trusting EITHER of us, but have a way to know for themselves what is really going on.

I still am like you :)

[cloud9]

I really don't have an opinion about the reptilian thing, some times it seems obvious and some times it seems just fantasy, as I haven't had special experiences or contacts, I'm always open to what people tell about their own experiences.

All the stuff about reptilians on youtube seems crazy to me, I believe is a problem with the encription of the videos but a few months ago I entered my nephew's room, he was watching the news and I looked at the tv, there was a blond young guy talking and his face was in the center of the screen so it was big, all I could see was his almost yellow eyes with the most amazing slits in them, there was a dialogue going on and the camera was focusing in other people too but he was the only one with this kind of eyes, so in this case it wasn't a problem with the video.

[OnyxKnight]

I agree that the reptilians are not real people.

They are not people, but they are as real as one can get.

They are not Dino's, one of the 'Reptoid' races is descended from a dinosaur species. Its the closest you can get it to being 'Reptilian', even though considering it went through a process of genetic 'upgrade', one can't see it as a 'reptile' at all.


This post begs 3 questions-
What is the motive and purpose of David Icke 'inventing' reptilians?
What is the motive and purpose of your discrediting of David Icke?
What is the motive and purpose of your alien friends?

I'll add another question - What is the motive and purpose of people inventing their experiences with 'Reptoids'.

David Icke started talking about "Reptoids' after he talked with a lot of people who had such experiences. So he didn't invent the whole thing.


O btw. The shapeshifting BS there spreading is another phyops the real thing is you saw a trans-dimensional-being it like super in posing two beings an to another .

Can we let go of the trans-dimensional aspect? That's the one that's bull****. They can go in between dimensions at the very most, using technology. The same technology they use to "shapeshift", for a lack of a better term.

It all boils down to technology, nothing else.


If this happens mostly if the human being that is possessed by it is creating a lot of emotional energy which makes them pop out of the body there in that's when you see them. You cannot film this, because you are looking with your 3th eye and your camera does not have one.

I have experience this more then ones where I could see a Reptilian being when I was heavily attacked by one.

Um, 'Reptoids' are not ghosts that enter humans and possess them. Sorry. If you add the technology bit here, it may explain at least some of the "possessions" humans have experienced.


It can happen to most anyone, as most people are simply 'empty shells' (something hard for most people to accept).For whatever reason, this species are perplexed with certain types of (rare) 'human beings', as they cannot either project themselves into them or have other issues. I cannot speak for other species having the same ability - however, it is possible

Humans are anything but 'empty shells'. Maybe something you find hard to accept?

And that little 'most' word there - that implies there are "special" people out there not subject to this?

Maybe me - I haven't had that happen to me, maybe I qualify?

[11alone]

I believe they are very real. :eek:

[Mu2143]

another .
Can we let go of the trans-dimensional aspect? That's the one that's bull****. They can go in between dimensions at the very most, using technology. The same technology they use to "shapeshift", for a lack of a better term.

It all boils down to technology, nothing else.

You have no Idea what reality really is your just another script reader without discerning what is real. Everyone on this planet has trans-dimensional demonic entity stuck to there body unless you have cleaned your self from it. Its never only technology ,because its a spiritual war.


Um, 'Reptoids' are not ghosts that enter humans and possess them. Sorry. If you add the technology bit here, it may explain at least some of the "possessions" humans have experienced.

You have never seen it ,so again you only have been reading scripts on the internet without knowing what is true and what is not true.

I have experienced this many time over and they work to getter to attack you and when you caught them attacking you from the astral then you see them react and come forward out of a body of a human

Hu = Serpent <----demon
Man = is us

[witchy1]

Hi Bright Garlik, I believe that most EB;s are nice and working for the good of humanity. I also do believe in the Reptons / Dracons. I dont understand this comment
Live in fear if you wish and that is the world you will create

I dont live in fear, why would beleiving in Reptons/Dracons make anyone live in fear? I havn't met one, but I understand that they smell and look awful - but they think that about us as well. They avoid us like the plague. IMHO They are just another being in this wide universe that we inhabit. (clearly more evolved, but nevertheless just another being)

What they do at Dulce is beyond words, but I dont fear them. I accept that they are here living beneath us and that they are genetically modifying a species to fight a war for on their behalf.

I cannot accept that they feed off our fear. They find us revolting and avoid us as much as possible. Our emotions mean nothing to them. Thats why they can do what they do in the genetic labs.

Likewise why would they inhabit out bodies, this is simply playing the fear tactics game. They are perfectly happy living their lives with the own species around them, underground. They are not some supernatural evil being from the pages of hell. (not that I believe in hell anyway) They are evolved extra terrestrials. Nothing more nothing less.

[kersley]

O btw. The shapeshifting BS there spreading is another phyops the real thing is you saw a trans-dimensional-being it like super in posing two beings an to another . If this happens mostly if the human being that is possessed by it is creating a lot of emotional energy which makes them pop out of the body there in that's when you see them. You cannot film this, because you are looking with your 3th eye and your camera does not have one.

I have experience this more then ones where I could see a Reptilian being when I was heavily attacked by one.

You are spot on my friend.
I was hoping to capture these beings on camera, do date i got nothing and i have 3 camera running every night for the past 3 weeks. The 2 beings that enters my room are very real. a lot of people mistake them for been ghost.
I thought they were until i saw them. They are all around us, but not all are able to see or sense them.
On the 20th of January, I was stopped by the police for having a passenger in the back of my work van. one of the policeman was just about to issue a fixed penalty point to me, i then felt anger and scared.
Within a second i felt the presence of the 2 beings standing behind me. The policeman was pushed into the bushes. and all his paper work went with him. quickly i went over to help him stand back up. he looked at me with fear in his eyes. The other policeman came over from his car and asked what happened? It must have been a gust of wind he replied. but i know better.
The ticket wasn't issued and they drove off, as if they been warned.
When i got home me and my partner had a massive argument about this, she wouldn't believe that these 2 beings had anything to do with it. again when i felt anger these 2 beings will make they presence known.
My partner was pushed out of bed and ended up on the floor. now she wont stay here in my flat. The more i think about this the more i can remember why certain things happened the way it did. it's been going on ever since i was around twelve . to say they thrive on fear and emotion could be true. but i have never been harm rather i been protected by them. why?

[AtlasFactor]

I find it interesting that draconians were relegated to the 4th dimension. If someone or something had the power to do this, that being / those beings also had the power to destroy them from creation altogether... and yet chose not to, chose to leave them here wreaking havoc on the rest of sentient life. There must be a reason for this.

Perhaps it united the rest of the universe. Perhaps in a strange way, evil was allowed to assist good. If there were only humans, for instance, perhaps war and division would have arisen between what are now firm alliances among the star nations.

One gets the feeling that the evil's work is done and the rug is soon to be pulled. Can't wait.

[king anthony]

Humans are anything but 'empty shells'. Maybe something you find hard to accept?

And that little 'most' word there - that implies there are "special" people out there not subject to this?

Maybe me - I haven't had that happen to me, maybe I qualify?

The choice to accept or not is a luxury. No one is special, the some or the most - just different. One may not know if or when; and the question is not for me to answer - for it is what it is.

[king anthony]

Can I ask what they have done to our evolutionary development? It appears the ETs who hybridized us were sloppy, and appeared to have allowed thousands of flaws in our genetics...

Things are, the way they are meant to be. To understand, is to know why human beings are. By some, who have care and not, they further do for themselves.

[Mu2143]

O btw. The shapeshifting BS there spreading is another phyops the real thing is you saw a trans-dimensional-being it like super in posing two beings an to another . If this happens mostly if the human being that is possessed by it is creating a lot of emotional energy which makes them pop out of the body there in that's when you see them. You cannot film this, because you are looking with your 3th eye and your camera does not have one.

I have experience this more then ones where I could see a Reptilian being when I was heavily attacked by one.

You are spot on my friend.
I was hoping to capture these beings on camera, do date i got nothing and i have 3 camera running every night for the past 3 weeks. The 2 beings that enters my room are very real. a lot of people mistake them for been ghost.
I thought they were until i saw them. They are all around us, but not all are able to see or sense them.
On the 20th of January, I was stopped by the police for having a passenger in the back of my work van. one of the policeman was just about to issue a fixed penalty point to me, i then felt anger and scared.
Within a second i felt the presence of the 2 beings standing behind me. The policeman was pushed into the bushes. and all his paper work went with him. quickly i went over to help him stand back up. he looked at me with fear in his eyes. The other policeman came over from his car and asked what happened? It must have been a gust of wind he replied. but i know better.
The ticket wasn't issued and they drove off, as if they been warned.
When i got home me and my partner had a massive argument about this, she wouldn't believe that these 2 beings had anything to do with it. again when i felt anger these 2 beings will make they presence known.
My partner was pushed out of bed and ended up on the floor. now she wont stay here in my flat. The more i think about this the more i can remember why certain things happened the way it did. it's been going on ever since i was around twelve . to say they thrive on fear and emotion could be true. but i have never been harm rather i been protected by them. why?

Why I call them trans-dimensional is because from our point of view its looking from 3th layer in to the 2th layer and there look transparent . And not all trans-dimensional are demonic ,because if you would be visiting me out of your body then its the same thing.

When going true those experiences things going to make more sense

Remember we as a spiritual being are in school (If you have any recalls of that from your dreams then if you graduate or enter the next level your wearing a dress and the color is the level your on). You always have two spirits to protect you.

1 Eternal body
2 Spirit realm "max 12 Bodies" (12 dimensions)
3 Physical (12 dimensions)

[Mu2143]

I find it interesting that draconians were relegated to the 4th dimension. If someone or something had the power to do this, that being / those beings also had the power to destroy them from creation altogether... and yet chose not to, chose to leave them here wreaking havoc on the rest of sentient life. There must be a reason for this.

Perhaps it united the rest of the universe. Perhaps in a strange way, evil was allowed to assist good. If there were only humans, for instance, perhaps war and division would have arisen between what are now firm alliances among the star nations.

One gets the feeling that the evil's work is done and the rug is soon to be pulled. Can't wait.

So to complete this puzzle, is you have to look at what is missing when there talking about "there from the 4th dimension". It only makes sense when they talk about the Physical 4th dimension and not the spiritual dimensions.

Where in the 3th dimension that exist out of 5 dimensions and our body has 7 dimensions.

[LightningResistor]

I liked that conversation between David and Jordan. David Icke is for real and he's a great man. There's nothing wrong believing or not in reptilians.:cool:

Agreed, one can choose to believe either side. I've never met a reptoid, so I won't claim to "know" they exist or not. But I will say the stories are convincing. The audio Bill posted is a very good listen, highly recommended.

[OnyxKnight]

You have no Idea what reality really is your just another script reader without discerning what is real.

I have been made aware of it since kid, thank you. To consider demonic forces you are just implying that you are the one who lives in a fake reality generated by pure beliefs. Beliefs are easily shattered I'm afraid. At least I have personal experience, and with such, I won't stick to belief systems, because I would know :).


Everyone on this planet has trans-dimensional demonic entity stuck to there body unless you have cleaned your self from it. Its never only technology ,because its a spiritual war.

No they don't. I don't. You? Maybe, whoknows. The only demons I can think of possessing you are living inside your head and playing the holes of your mind like a windpipe :).

It is a spiritual war, but there are no angelic or demonic forces at work to secure your little parcel in Heaven, for being a jolly good boy :).

A very wise man once said - "A sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic".

In other words, humans can't comprehend something, they give it divine or demonic properties, depending on their conditioning, viewpoint, experience.

If you are referring to non-physical intelligence, yes, there are few around (none presently on Earth), but they have nothing to do with the 'Reptoids' nor are they in any way, shape or form, the 'Reptoids' themselves.

I guess you find it hard that physical beings from (a different nature) flesh and blood are capable of doing this, so a lot of people give them magical traits and properties, such as them being demonic and leap from one dimension to another and they feed on your soul - rubbish!


You have never seen it ,so again you only have been reading scripts on the internet without knowing what is true and what is not true.

Says who? You? And your words don't change my personal experience that tells me otherwise :)

So yes, I do have seen them, and in fact it goes a lot deeper than just observation. I have it in detail on another forum, but I won't bother you with details, you seem satisfied enough with what you believe right now, so I don't bother :).

I can say the same about you too though - reading scripts on the internet, like most people who claim "Reptoids" as ghostly entities that can possess a human body.

I know what's true and what's not based on personal events, that shattered my own reality that was nothing like the one I know of today.


I have experienced this many time over and they work to getter to attack you and when you caught them attacking you from the astral then you see them react and come forward out of a body of a human

Hu = Serpent <----demon
Man = is us

Oh i see....

Did it occur to you that it may be a projection from a "shapeshifted" 'Reptoid'? You see a human, but how human is he without that biotechnology?

Again, don't know why I bother, I could explain the details of the technology, but you will just continue to babble the new age crap about 'Reptoids' again.

[Mu2143]

You have no Idea what reality really is your just another script reader without discerning what is real.

I have been made aware of it since kid, thank you. To consider demonic forces you are just implying that you are the one who lives in a fake reality generated by pure beliefs. Beliefs are easily shattered I'm afraid. At least I have personal experience, and with such, I won't stick to belief systems, because I would know :).


Everyone on this planet has trans-dimensional demonic entity stuck to there body unless you have cleaned your self from it. Its never only technology ,because its a spiritual war.

No they don't. I don't. You? Maybe, whoknows. The only demons I can think of possessing you are living inside your head and playing the holes of your mind like a windpipe :).

It is a spiritual war, but there are no angelic or demonic forces at work to secure your little parcel in Heaven, for being a jolly good boy :).

A very wise man once said - "A sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic".

In other words, humans can't comprehend something, they give it divine or demonic properties, depending on their conditioning, viewpoint, experience.

If you are referring to non-physical intelligence, yes, there are few around (none presently on Earth), but they have nothing to do with the 'Reptoids' nor are they in any way, shape or form, the 'Reptoids' themselves.

I guess you find it hard that physical beings from (a different nature) flesh and blood are capable of doing this, so a lot of people give them magical traits and properties, such as them being demonic and leap from one dimension to another and they feed on your soul - rubbish!


You have never seen it ,so again you only have been reading scripts on the internet without knowing what is true and what is not true.

Says who? You? And your words don't change my personal experience that tells me otherwise :)

So yes, I do have seen them, and in fact it goes a lot deeper than just observation. I have it in detail on another forum, but I won't bother you with details, you seem satisfied enough with what you believe right now, so I don't bother :).

I can say the same about you too though - reading scripts on the internet, like most people who claim "Reptoids" as ghostly entities that can possess a human body.

I know what's true and what's not based on personal events, that shattered my own reality that was nothing like the one I know of today.


I have experienced this many time over and they work to getter to attack you and when you caught them attacking you from the astral then you see them react and come forward out of a body of a human

Hu = Serpent <----demon
Man = is us

Oh i see....

Did it occur to you that it may be a projection from a "shapeshifted" 'Reptoid'? You see a human, but how human is he without that biotechnology?

Again, don't know why I bother, I could explain the details of the technology, but you will just continue to babble the new age crap about 'Reptoids' again.

Ill keep my comment simple do your homework better !!! You do not have clue what your talking about !!!! No point discussing it any further with you.

[OnyxKnight]

Ill keep my comment simple do you homework better !!! You do not have clue what your talking about !!!! No point discussing it any further with you.

You need a gasp of fresh air. Why don't you go outside and vent off, huh? :)

Homework! - LOL!

Are you kidding me?

You might wanna take your trans-dimensional 'Reptoid' ghost friend with you as well. He could use some fresh air as well :nod:

[mojo]

The unique opportunity you have to communicate would lead me to ask other questions. Do you have communication ongoing? It would be great to know when disclosure will come. Will they let you take pictures or video of them? These are just a few I have thanks...

[MariaDine]

«felt anger and scared.
Within a second i felt the presence of the 2 beings standing behind me. The policeman was pushed into the bushes.

When i got home me and my partner had a massive argument about this, she wouldn't believe that these 2 beings had anything to do with it.

again when i felt anger these 2 beings will make they presence known.

My partner was pushed out of bed and ended up on the floor. now she wont stay here in my flat.

to say they thrive on fear and emotion could be true. but i have never been harm rather i been protected by them. why?»
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Hello Kersley ! :)
Maybe you should read again what you wrote. Maybe you already found the answer to your own questions.
Namasté

[Tane Mahuta]

Yeah, they are an illusion until you touch one....


Yeah Rich, you could get eaten too. That would be a horrible illusion.

[Bright Garlick]

Hi mojo - yes I do but I don't have planned communication. It happens when it happens. Pictures/video - this gets altered by their presence and the effect they have on me. Disclosure is not up to them. We are unable to deal with their physical presence - for the most part it makes us sick and highly emotional/volatile. Depends what type of disclosure you mean. Here's a little discussion about that : http://otherworldyencounters.wordpress.com/2010/09/30/types-of-alien-disclosure/ .

Have a lovely day, Bright.:couch2:

[kersley]

@ MariaDine.
It would seem that way. It's not them i fear. but our fellow men who have no experience of these beings....

[kersley]

just because you don't see doesn't mean it don't exist. do you ever get the feeling that you been watched or there is a presence in a room? trust me .it is exactly what you're feeling

[kersley]

why do you sleep with the lights on? is it because you know there is something there, but you have to convince yourself that if you don't see it, then it's just your imagination.
you better start believing what you're feeling is what it is. Why do so many children have imaginary play friends? time to re think i say.

[ponda]

OnyxKnight said:

It is a spiritual war, but there are no angelic or demonic forces at work to secure your little parcel in Heaven

In other words, humans can't comprehend something, they give it divine or demonic properties, depending on their conditioning, viewpoint, experience.

If you are referring to non-physical intelligence, yes, there are few around (none presently on Earth),

I guess you find it hard that physical beings from (a different nature) flesh and blood are capable of doing this, so a lot of people give them magical traits and properties, such as them being demonic and leap from one dimension to another and they feed on your soul - rubbish!


The best proof that i have seen of astral entities and other inter-dimensional beings etc can be found at this site:

Main site: http://blog.sargel18.com/
Variuos photo evidence: http://blog.sargel18.com/?page_id=130
Astral Aliens: http://blog.sargel18.com/?page_id=46
Astral creatures: http://blog.sargel18.com/?page_id=64
Demons: http://blog.sargel18.com/?page_id=71

REAL photo of JESUS ??? http://blog.sargel18.com/?p=794

[slipknotted]

believe me they are real !!!

[OnyxKnight]

The best proof that i have seen of astral entities and other inter-dimensional beings etc can be found at this site:

Main site: http://blog.sargel18.com/
Variuos photo evidence: http://blog.sargel18.com/?page_id=130
Astral Aliens: http://blog.sargel18.com/?page_id=46
Astral creatures: http://blog.sargel18.com/?page_id=64
Demons: http://blog.sargel18.com/?page_id=71

REAL photo of JESUS ??? http://blog.sargel18.com/?p=794

Ever heard of the term 'plasma'?

Imagine a life form made out of that but existing in a parallel plane. It would definitely look like some of those pictures you showed.

BTW, I'm intrigued by that Jesus photo. Nice blog, thanks for linking it.

[ponda]

OnyxKnight said:

Ever heard of the term 'plasma'?

Imagine a life form made out of that but existing in a parallel plane. It would definitely look like some of those pictures you showed.

BTW, I'm intrigued by that Jesus photo. Nice blog, thanks for linking it.


There were some very good orb shots on there at one stage.They might be somewhere in the monthly blog posts.One shot had this orb in mid air with a tiny alien grey like head coming out of the orb.Fascinating.

Yeah they might be some type of inter-dimensional plasma entity or astral plasma entity.Very interesting spot that he's found there.

cheers

[Omni]

What can I say folks ??? Honestly what can I say that would appease you ?

Answering my question about them thinking you asked a stupid question would be a start, or how "nothing" adds up about reptilians existing even though the planet was literally jam packed with them some millions of years ago.... Were you talking to them telepathically? If they thought it was a stupid question, there's no question in my mind they are not very enlightened or aware.


I'm afraid that I do not have enough time in my life to answer all these questions and what feels like opposition to what I have said.
You don't have 20 minutes to answer questions after you urged people to believe what you say? What purpose does your contact serve? I feel all contactees have a duty to share what they have been told or shown in depth. If you are not willing to take the time to elaborate on the opportunity and experiences you have been given, I question their choice of a contactee(nothing personal at all). Is your contact purely for your own personal enjoyment or something? No offense... Just my view and I'm rather direct with my thoughts. I don't really beat around the bush typically, this is a result of telepathic interaction every single day... A decent amount of my interactions are a clear window into my views and thoughts to the point to where I reflect that more in my forum posts(unless there is interference or mind control in a way that is against such things, which can happen).


All I can tell you is this. I have a long standing relationship with a wide range of aliens - 2 of which I asked about the Reptilian question. I raised many of the same objections that you have. I too thought they must exist !
One race works at a base in England and has worked with humans for a very long time. They currently assist in many activities, including understanding alien technologies and the nature of the universe.
They are doing this with the British government? Maybe I'm mistaken but the British government doesn't seem like the right people to teach alien technology to... They would just try to capitalize, control, or kill with it most likely. They wouldn't likely share it with the world... So let me get this straight. Your contacts will share the nature of the universe, and even technology with the British government, but will not let you share some of the nature of the universe with us in asking you to not speak of some things they told you... This doesn't seem like parental enlightened beings to me. If they were really of heart, they would want to give the information to the WORLD(who could handle it, which I can safely say the Avalon community could handle the truth IMO), not just governments who have heartless agendas.

The alien races that are giving alien technology to irresponsible rulers of this world, are seemingly not our friends... Least not my friends... If they can't see that TPTB who control government are not to be given advanced technological capabilities due to corrupted motives, they are quite clueless beings. I don't believe any ETs that come here are clueless unless another ET race is showing some younger race contactee around like I'm told they do on rare occasion...


I raised many of the same objections that you have.

So your day is so jam packed full of things to do you cannot simply share their responses to "the same objections" we have?


Both races played a key role in our own creation/evolution.
Will you please elaborate on this,,,, please?


You may not understand this : THEY DO NOT HAVE AGENDAS. That is a human idea. They are way past that in their own evolution.
Agendas are absolutely not only a human idea. Just like time is not a human idea. We apply our own beliefs to it, and systems, but we did not invent it. We invented how we keep track of it, that's about it. And everyone has an agenda... If you are speaking truth in most everything you say, you have spoken at least one falsity. If they created us, they have an agenda to create us as they saw fit... If they contacted you, they have an agenda to contact people... You are saying they have evolved out of having opinions and plans? Without an agenda or plan of action/philosophy, you are just doing whatever impulsively without thinking or knowing what you are doing. This is an animal below us tendency, not seemingly above us.. They do not have opinions/desires about our suffering and planetary insanity? Do they not have an agenda to help us evolve??? Why am I even asking these questions... Not like you will respond to them. I'm not sure you have good responses to some of these questions. So it's convenient you would avoid them.

No intentional disrespect, but the more you speak the less sense you are making... This just speaks towards you being wrong in your original claim. But that is yet to be seen for most. It's possible you are right... Either way sorry for picking your posts apart but in the 'game' of beliefs, everything should be dissected and analyzed without consideration of the ego IMHO.


They accept us as we are - knowing our limitations. However, despite this - Among many other things, they are assisting humans to evolve emotionally - beyond division.
If they are assisting us to evolve emotionally beyond division...... This would be an agenda.


Just look at this thread for an example of where we're at.
I think most the posts in this thread were made by pretty intelligent reasonable people from what I've seen. We as humans still hold many delusions, but I find the quality and open mindedness of this thread to be a far cry from a lot of humanity.


They don't play games like us - they have total compassion and love for our species. No need to ask about deception - that is what we do, they left that game a long time ago, if they ever played it !
If they had compassion and love for our species they would have an agenda to help us transcend our dysfunction... You sound very sure in thinking you know your contacts. Did it ever occur to you they may be deceiving you? Why do you trust them so much, any real reason beyond your own assumption(and probably very strong desire for it to be so)? Did they ever tell you why they contacted you? Do you have a thread explaining your contact and what you have learned by chance?



Is it so hard to believe that there are beings who live with universal compassion ?
No. I have universal compassion. Nobody in this thread is disputing that. Reptilians existing does not cancel out beings with universal compassion in a reality, it's just the other end of the yin yang... Balance, one of the biggest consistencies of the universe.


Is it easier to believe that most aliens are insidious bad guys ?
It's not about ease of belief, it's about the TRUTH. I'm sure it's easier for you to think your contacts are 100% trust worthy... Nobody as far as I remember has said most ETs are bad guys in this thread. Just challenged your urging people to conform to your own belief because someone(who happens to be ET) told you it... I find the quoted comment irrational based on what people are saying. Maybe you are trying to convey an energy in your mind, but conceptually you mind fed you a faulty premise. It happens..


If you don't believe that Reptilians are a cultural archetype, I can't convince you otherwise.
Well that appears to be your agenda in creating this thread is it not? To deliver the truth to people? You did "urge" us to believe what you believe did you not? In reality, you don't know if they exist either. If you think you do you are just fooling yourself. It's a faith/trust based thing in your case. Not a confirmed thing.


Live in fear if you wish and that is the world you will create.
I didn't get fear vibes off any posts in this thread about reptilians. This is a pretty broad assumption. Being open minded, or believing in reptilian ETs does not mean someone lives in fear at all. I find the quoted sentence irrational based on the comments in this thread. Did YOU live in fear when you thought they could be, or were here?


The only thing enslaving most humans (especially we of the west) is our own mind.
There is truth to this IMHO, but you are making a big assumption in saying "only". There is a monolithic system in place that is aimed to controlling the mind and it's beliefs. So essentially you are wrong in saying the "only". The monetary system also appears to be something enslaving some people, in some sort of way.


Perhaps there is someone brave enough to acknowledge what I have passed on and to explore that line of reasoning. As I said, I was once like you ... :wave:

You have not given any real reason to do this other than testimony in saying some being told you such things. When questioned by me referring to your statement 'none of it adds up about reptilians', you refused to respond... Maybe if you put more effort in conveying your reasoning, people would explore your point of view more. I acknowledge your point of view as possible, but do not buy it. There are flaws in your words and story. A huge red flag is them thinking you asked a stupid question. That says it all really if that's true. A spiritually evolved and enlightened being would NOT think it is a stupid question... AT ALL. I know that for sure.

[Bright Garlick]

Hi Omniverse - I am at work now and so I have very little time in a few minutes of my lunch break.

I can only answer a few questions for now - in my own way. There is much you don't understand about what I am trying to say. And perhaps I am not a good communicator !

The Powers That be are not a homogenous group - there are many arms and some are alien in origin. There are many long standing programs of working with alien technologies (engineering, biological, astrophysics, computing etc). These have ordinary folks working within them - who have families and who feel just like you and I. Many of them are ordinary folks, who are essentially good at heart, they just happen to know about a different world. They work closely with many alien species in many different capacities. If they didn't, any effort to recreate technologies acquired legitimatly and through downed vessels, could result in catastrophic consequences and the deaths of many. It is critical that they work with the aliens. The aliens in turn are doing their best to guide humans, because they see a much wider picture than you and I. They see how we will one day travel among the stars and when the time is ripe much of this technology will become mainstream. But they also know we are not ready for it - we must evolve spiritually. The aliens teach and guide the humans carefully, being careful to temper the knowledge they pass on with wisdom. Humans have also broken many agreements but the aliens continue to be patient with them.

The aliens have immense compassion for us, that is why for the most part they accept where we are at. They know our evolution is very slow and gradual.

One of the reasons that the aliens don't drive the disclosure process externally, is because we largely act before thinking or feeling. Look at this thread and understand the process that has unfolding here.

All human systems come from the human mind. Bring awareness to the mind for all humans and healing occurs and systems change. When that happens we create a better world.

I can't urge you to think like me or see what I see. Clearly that is a mistake on my part. All I can do is tell you what I have been told. I can't tell you more than this brief comment because it was told in a context, that developed over many encounters and because they did not want me to say more because I believe it would open a pandoras box. These races played a key role in our planetary and human evolution - I have seen evidence of this (maybe one day I will share this). There are documents in world governments which are a testament to this and only those who work in TPTB know that to be true (Clifford Stone also knows this to be true). I can convince no one that these aliens are what they say they are. How can you convince me that you exist ? Or that you have a self ? How can you convince me that you have good intentions with anything in your life ? None of us can prove anything. The best we can do is judge something by it's actions and then we must trust. These aliens played a role in healing me from cancer and have helped me to stay well all my life. that is enough for me. They have forewarned me about dangers and world changes, they have shown me a unique perspective of the human race and our place in the galaxy. That is enough for me. I can't tell you everything. I'm not like that. Much is shared in trust. Would a priest blurt out confessions of his parishioners ? One day when more humans have grown emotionally and embrace genuine universal compassion, then I believe different alien races will feel that we are ready to know more. The truth is a many layered thing nd often when we think we are ready for it, we are not.

I created this thread because I thought there might be enough open hearted people out there, who might like to consider an alternative truth. Maybe I was mistaken ? Clearly people want to believe in this idea of Reptilian's and have no way of distinguishing what seems real from what is real. Maybe you and I are in a different place emotionally. I am also much older and have experienced many strange phenomenon for 40 + years and studied a wide range of subjects professionally and off my own bat. That gives me a very different perspective to you. I was once highly critical and sceptical too. With age I have learned to discern in a way that I couldn't when I was younger. Kudos to you for your enthusiasm but maybe there is still a great deal for you to learn.

Let me rephrase the comment about this being a stupid question - they looked at me in surprise, like I had asked a stupid question and they seemed genuinely shocked that i would ask something I ought to have known better about. But that was my take, not theirs. They were kind and compassionate and explained a great deal about this to me. They are always infinitely patient but sometimes they are surprised by our thoughts, feelings and behaviours.

And just lastly, there are a number of people who have pm'd me on this topic, who agreed with me and felt too afraid to post something in this thread, for fear of being vilified. What does that say about human compassion and healthy dialogue ?

Peace to all of you ! Bright. :hand:

[from_Brzil]

(sorry guys... couldn't remove this post..)

[from_Brzil]

Hi Omniverse - I am at work now and so I have very little time in a few minutes of my lunch break.

I can only answer a few questions for now - in my own way. There is much you don't understand about what I am trying to say. And perhaps I am not a good communicator !

The Powers That be are not a homogenous group - there are many arms and some are alien in origin. There are many long standing programs of working with alien technologies (engineering, biological, astrophysics, computing etc). These have ordinary folks working within them - who have families and who feel just like you and I. Many of them are ordinary folks, who are essentially good at heart, they just happen to know about a different world. They work closely with many alien species in many different capacities. If they didn't, any effort to recreate technologies acquired legitimatly and through downed vessels, could result in catastrophic consequences and the deaths of many. It is critical that they work with the aliens. The aliens in turn are doing their best to guide humans, because they see a much wider picture than you and I. They see how we will one day travel among the stars and when the time is ripe much of this technology will become mainstream. But they also know we are not ready for it - we must evolve spiritually. The aliens teach and guide the humans carefully, being careful to temper the knowledge they pass on with wisdom. Humans have also broken many agreements but the aliens continue to be patient with them.

The aliens have immense compassion for us, that is why for the most part they accept where we are at. They know our evolution is very slow and gradual.

One of the reasons that the aliens don't drive the disclosure process externally, is because we largely act before thinking or feeling. Look at this thread and understand the process that has unfolding here.

All human systems come from the human mind. Bring awareness to the mind for all humans and healing occurs and systems change. When that happens we create a better world.

I can't urge you to think like me or see what I see. Clearly that is a mistake on my part. All I can do is tell you what I have been told. I can't tell you more than this brief comment because it was told in a context, that developed over many encounters and because they did not want me to say more because I believe it would open a pandoras box. These races played a key role in our planetary and human evolution - I have seen evidence of this (maybe one day I will share this). There are documents in world governments which are a testament to this and only those who work in TPTB know that to be true (Clifford Stone also knows this to be true). I can convince no one that these aliens are what they say they are. How can you convince me that you exist ? Or that you have a self ? How can you convince me that you have good intentions with anything in your life ? None of us can prove anything. The best we can do is judge something by it's actions and then we must trust. These aliens played a role in healing me from cancer and have helped me to stay well all my life. that is enough for me. They have forewarned me about dangers and world changes, they have shown me a unique perspective of the human race and our place in the galaxy. That is enough for me. I can't tell you everything. I'm not like that. Much is shared in trust. Would a priest blurt out confessions of his parishioners ? One day when more humans have grown emotionally and embrace genuine universal compassion, then I believe different alien races will feel that we are ready to know more. The truth is a many layered thing nd often when we think we are ready for it, we are not.

I created this thread because I thought there might be enough open hearted people out there, who might like to consider an alternative truth. Maybe I was mistaken ? Clearly people want to believe in this idea of Reptilian's and have no way of distinguishing what seems real from what is real. Maybe you and I are in a different place emotionally. I am also much older and have experienced many strange phenomenon for 40 + years and studied a wide range of subjects professionally and off my own bat. That gives me a very different perspective to you. I was once highly critical and sceptical too. With age I have learned to discern in a way that I couldn't when I was younger. Kudos to you for your enthusiasm but maybe there is still a great deal for you to learn.

Let me rephrase the comment about this being a stupid question - they looked at me in surprise, like I had asked a stupid question and they seemed genuinely shocked that i would ask something I ought to have known better about. But that was my take, not theirs. They were kind and compassionate and explained a great deal about this to me. They are always infinitely patient but sometimes they are surprised by our thoughts, feelings and behaviours.

And just lastly, there are a number of people who have pm'd me on this topic, who agreed with me and felt too afraid to post something in this thread, for fear of being vilified. What does that say about human compassion and healthy dialogue ?

Peace to all of you ! Bright. :hand:

Forget the Reptilians... for now...

I should be asking Bright Garlick a million questions...

You are saying... that... not only you have met with 2 ETs, but.. that you maintain a relationship with them ?...

Now that's a history... I can't help it.. I want to ask you so many questions...

But I get a impression, you don't like to share much of it...

abç.
;-)

[Bright Garlick]

from_brzil- it's not that I don't like to share - can't share, have been told not to share all, and yeah I guess I am unwilling to share all because not everybody is at the same place emotionally. I share a little on my blog and will share more in time. But not all knowledge can be just taken, sometimes it has to be earned and that can take years of growth as a human being. Thanks for being curious anyway !

Just to let you all know, I came to PA for a very specific reason and have had a bit of a roller coaster ride since - which has taken a lot of energy but alas that was my choice. I will soon be leaving, so thank you for engaging in this thread and your enthusiasm for the subject.

Peace to all,

Bright. :wave:

[OnyxKnight]

Told not to share?

That's red alarm for me.

[Bright Garlick]

Onyxknight - i broke my promise by sharing 1 little thing and look at what it's created here. If I shared the rest, many of you would be greatly confused. When they ask not to shar - there is always a good reason.

Red alarms come from the human mind -- they don't try to create fear or have anything to hide. They asked me not to share anything, so that i would prevent others from additional suffering. Any fault here is mine, not theirs.

Did you know that the Dalai Lama among many others know propehcies about the coming changes and they have remained tight lipped to the populous. Why ? To prevent additional suffering. People and aliens, don't always have something to hide. That's naive and very human.

[Innerbliss]

Not 'seeing is believing' but 'believing is seeing'. I choose not to believe in silly things which have nothing to do with me. Create whatever you want. You have the ability. Everything is vibration and if yours is high enough, negative beings won't affect you. They can't! The problem with these forums is there is so much focus on negativity. It sometimes makes me wonder if it's by design?

[Lost Soul]

So is it OK for me to resume eating snakes, gecos, alligators and other reptiles on a regular basis?:behindsofa:

[Bright Garlick]

Eat what you like Lost Soul - we must all make our own decisions. :rolleyes:

[Atlas]

Reptilians are no illusion for Obama, quote: "...there's still a REPTILIAN side of our brain"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUmG56uK_N8

[Atlas]

Barbara Lamb talks about reptilians and explains that people that have experienced friendly/learning experiences are some times followed up with secondary, terrifying Military/ET abductions afterward.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EY2N1ZTQBgk

[Sith73]

They are as real as you and me my friend.

[araucaria]

Reptilians are no illusion for Obama, quote: "...there's still a REPTILIAN side of our brain"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUmG56uK_N8
I don't think it helps to confuse the issue with this reference to normal usage in connection with the oldest, most primitive part of the human brain, commonly known as the reptilian brain.
http://thebrain.mcgill.ca/flash/d/d_05/d_05_cr/d_05_cr_her/d_05_cr_her.html

Anyone may use this phrase in everyday speech, and the fact that it is Obama does not make it at all suspicious. He is not thinking of aliens :)

[Atlas]

the oldest, most primitive part of the human brain, commonly known as the reptilian brain. Anyone may use this phrase in everyday speech

The reptilian complex, also known as "reptilian brain" was the name MacLean gave to the basal ganglia. The term derives from the fact that comparative neuroanatomists once believed that the forebrains of reptiles and birds were dominated by these structures. MacLean proposed that the reptilian complex was responsible for species typical instinctual behaviors involved in aggression, dominance, territoriality, and ritual displays.

Some recent behavioral studies do not support the traditional view of sauropsid behavior as stereotyped and ritualistic (as in MacLean's reptilian complex): “the reptilian complex could be thought of, and perhaps redesignated, as the ancient amniote complex or even the early vertebrate complex” (Cory G. A. Reappraising MacLean's triune brain concept, 2002)

MacLean maintained that the structures of the limbic system arose early in mammalian evolution and were responsible for the motivation and emotion involved in feeding, reproductive behavior, and parental behavior.

Structures of the limbic system have now been shown to exist across a range of modern vertebrates. The "paleomammalian" trait of parental care of offspring is widespread in birds and occurs in some fishes as well.

MacLean regarded the cerebral neocortex as the most recent step in the evolution of the mammilian brain, conferring the ability for language, abstraction, planning, and perception.

Although non-mammals do not have a neocortex in the true sense, birds and reptiles generally possess three layers in the dorsal pallium (the homolog of the mammalian neocortex). The telencephalon of birds and reptiles makes neuroanatomical connections like those made by neocortex. It mediates similar functions such as perception, learning and memory, decision making, motor control, conceptual thinking, and tool use.

Birds have been shown to possess highly sophisticated cognitive abilities, such as the toolmaking of the New Caledonian crow and the language-like categorization abilities of the African Gray Parrot.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sV5bxaLDG-w

[Sith73]

Yep we have a reptilian brain and depending on your family lineage we all have a percentage of reptilian genetics in all of us some more and less than others. Some people have snub tails at the end of their spine. I have met some people with this and seen documented cases. If you could look at female when pregnant at the beginning stages there are reptilian properties than mammalian properties that take over all in genetic sequence. They messed with our genetics and shortened our life spans and other things sort of like programming a computer per say. 4d beings can manifest a 3d body so when we talk about a reptilian, could be a Draco for example they could be walking down the street and you wouldn't even notice them. 4d beings have abilities that we currently don't have in the end stages of 3d. Our world our mother earth is changing her frequencies to become a 4d world. Have you looked at the earth changes taking place around the world? Our world is changing and I'm glad to be here to experience it. Believe me if you meet a hostile reptilian without any training or skills your best bet is to just run like hell. If you believe in reptilians or not is your opinion and I respect that 100% One day that might change for you.

Love and light my friend!

[Sirius White]

First of all they are not illusions.

They are as real as you and me.

And they come in many varieties from MANY DIFFERENT places and allegiances....

[Another1]

First of all they are not illusions.

They are as real as you and me.

And they come in many varieties from MANY DIFFERENT places and allegiances....

Too bad we can't video record dreams and visions for people in situations like this ...
I know they exist in that tween place where people dream travel.
They can communicate with and influence their human-looking-waking self to varied degrees.

Watching the 'V' teeeveee series was a bit more personal for some people than it was for the general masses.
The bi*** is in finding evidence beyond unprovable anecdotes and fuzzy video.

[araucaria]

What occurs to me in connection with the reptilian brain is that this most primitive part of the brain has received two major upgrades.

We have a choice between ‘retro-gaming’ as if these upgrades had never happened. This would be the ‘reptilian agenda’, which gives a whole new meaning to the word ‘reactionary’. The problem, which the neocortex, commenting on the reptilian brain, would say is inside of us humans, is seen by the reptilian brain as an external threat. This is why Bright Garlick’s position is both correct and unacceptable for others who have personal experience of the archontic phenomenon.

The forward-looking view would be to say that the human brain is heading for a further upgrade. Taking the brain-computer analogy a step further, upgrading from 128K Ram to floppies to CD Roms were early steps, another was data exchange via dial-up modems, but we are now in the Internet age of universal connectedness when the days of the PC may soon be over. Whether we are due for a further brain add-on or a whole new technology, either way the reptilian brain is going to get sidelined pretty much to the point of irrelevance.

[Sirius White]

First of all they are not illusions.

They are as real as you and me.

And they come in many varieties from MANY DIFFERENT places and allegiances....


Too bad we can't video record dreams and visions for people in situations like this ...
I know they exist in that tween place where people dream travel.
They can communicate with and influence their human-looking-waking self to varied degrees.

Watching the 'V' teeeveee series was a bit more personal for some people than it was for the general masses.
The bi*** is in finding evidence beyond unprovable anecdotes and fuzzy video.

You see, they do not solely exist in between. Yes some of them are ontological energetic beings who don't exist in the matter-space/time regime we do, but they are still real beings on their own plane of physicality.

BUT biological LITERAL sauroid beings also exist....and like I said we cannot generalize all of them. And no, you will never see physical proof of them unless the "powers that be" deem it so. "They" also want to keep their existence generally a secret, in fact most ET's here (over 50 involved in our exopolitics and corporate/political bodies) because it allows them to operate with not just people interfering, but actually their thoughts influencing the situation. Yes, thoughts influence physical reality as we know it as does awareness, or rather OBSERVERSHIP ot what reality is. Observership of a reality-frame limited by atypical religious institutions, political and scientifc allows them to operate unseen and without worries meanwhile we focus on the very things that allow exploitation on a level not quite comprehended by most.

Yes, they can operate in human bodies, as well as disguise themselves as humans. But not as described by popular conspiracy theorists, it is based on actually influencing holographic reality, and what a person receives as "signals" to his five sensory organs that construe the image the being makes up. This means Bases are often concealed actually by holographic means and not some pseudo-star trek "cloaking" device, in otherwords you could walk up to a door that led to an underground base, but for all intents and purposes your body would only feel a rock (if its concealed in a mountain) and see it. As if it was literally, physically there.

[Tony]

REPTILIAN BRAIN – BEAUTY AND THE BEAST


The Reptilian brain is our basic primitive brain: it controls flight, fight and freeze in every creature.
This principle perfectly reflects the basic principle of this universe: attraction, repulsion and inertia –
the principles in every atom.

Hidden deep in this Reptilian brain principle is absolute wisdom. It has a spiritual content!

If we look at the basics principles of human behaviour we find desire, aversion and ignorance –
I like, I do not like, I do not care. These correspond exactly to the basic principles of the universe –
move towards, move away and be indifferent.

Desire, aversion and ignorance are the neurotic states of the sentient mind. It all revolves around
our mental image of “I”. The identification with this “I” creates the desire to defend itself,
attack others or ignore. This dark side causes conflicts and confusion in our mind, and this is also
the state of play in the world.

But we all have a feeling that there is more to us then merely animal reaction, don’t we?
And we are correct, but maybe it is not always clear.

There is another side to us – a Light side – and it’s obvious when ‘pointed out’!

We are aware. In the first instance of this awareness, there is no obstacle to this awareness.
It is pure perception, empty of other. It is present before Reptilian brain kicks in.
Before any decision, there has to be recognition of awareness – pure clear awareness
without limitation. This ‘without limitation’ is without fear; it is unconditional –
before the effects of conditions. It’s pure openness – pure love.

Those three neurotic principles of desire, aversion and ignorance have three corresponding
enlightened principles of Empty Essence, Cognisant nature and unconfined Compassion.

This is how they correlate.
Desire
- Emptiness
Aversion – Cognition
Ignorance – Compassion

Our essence is empty, pure sacred space. Desire arises, creating concepts which fill this sacred space.
Emptiness becomes filled with fixated ideas.

Our nature is awareness: a knowing quality. Aversion arises when awareness creates an “I” through
forgetting its essence, and we start judging.

Our expression is unconfined compassionate energy: joy of being. Ignorance arises when empty awareness
has forgotten its own true nature – and therefore, that of others. So we lack love.

When we recognise these principles of the universe, they no longer control us: they are a direct reflection
of our true nature. They become our symbolic teacher. They become fun!

The two short videos below illustrate The Light side and the Dark side.

From a spiritual point of view, both these videos perfectly reflect human potential; both the light and the dark.
If one falls into the trap of being attracted to one and repelled by the other,
one is drawn into primitive reptilian brain. By merely being aware and not reacting – remaining in one taste –
we go beyond Beauty and the Beast.

We can stay a Reptilian
or Love.

HARMONY.
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DISHARMONY.
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Tony