Comet Elenin, C/2010 X1

[Cidersomerset]

Thanks D=Day this is scary ....Maybe 7/7 another of those masonic PTB dates is approaching ....Coincidence not on your 'Nelly'.......

These nuclear plants being put in danger can't be coincidence , Jellyfish in Scotland surely they could make some sort of filter....

I know it is far fetched to those who have not been listening to ION , he's been saying the release of radiation is part of our 'Accending' proccess and we will not notice it.........
Unless he means we are all going out together and accending on another plane !!!!

All I know in this weird and wonderfull subject , were on the 'Cusp' of something BIG!!! Lets Keep our Eyes & Ears wide open..

Cheers Steve...

[Rocky_Shorz]

Bumped to the top...

should we post all the links related to this topic for visitors?

Elenin or Nibiru? (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?16101-Proof-that-Comet-Elenin-doesn-t-exists--We-have-Nibiru-instead-&highlight=elenin)

[SkepticSoul]

I saw a post which adresses also the 'comet' elenin

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?16101-Proof-that-Comet-Elenin-doesn-t-exists--We-have-Nibiru-instead-

Here's something to get your mind open and clear about the situation and away from all disinfo going on around this subject on the internet!!

Here's the camelot round table conference with lots of food for tought.
ENJOY!


http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/75041/Elenin_Comet__A_Camelot_Roundtable_Vid_Confrence_1/

Greetz

[Calz]

Don't bite the hand that feeds you???

This is (was) still available for those wishing to "give back" and support the flow of information going forward.

[nearing]

I saw a post which adresses 'proof' that comet elenin doesnt exist...

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?16101-Proof-that-Comet-Elenin-doesn-t-exists--We-have-Nibiru-instead-

Here's something to get your mind open and clear about the situation and away from all disinfo going on around this subject!!

Here's the camelot round table conference with lots of food for tought.
ENJOY!


http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/75041/Elenin_Comet__A_Camelot_Roundtable_Vid_Confrence_1/

Greetz

Skeptic, the thread you cite is very long. If you read all of the posts, you can see the evolution of the discussion and toward the end you can see an argument that there is a Dwarf Star (only seen in infrared) that is surrounded by a few satellites, one of which is the comet Elenin. So they are not one and the same but are in close approximation and therefore, in the same orbit around our sun. (every 3600 years) They are incoming soon.

This explains why it seems as though Elenin causes these earth changes when it aligns with the Earth and the Sun and some of the other planets (causing an increase in the gravitational and magnetic pull) when in reality it is the Dwarf Star causing it.

We have been warned by ancient peoples about this cyclical event. Our system being a binary system explains the cyclical nature of the extinctions of the past.

I heard that the conference was not so great as some of the speakers who were known to have good info were not allowed to speak so much. Sad.

[Rocky_Shorz]

http://stereo-ssc.nascom.nasa.gov/where/where_is_stereo.gif

notice positions of Stereo looking outward...

none of them point to Elenin which is behind earth

it is just to the left of what Stereo A is showing

http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/images/comet/20110504/comet20110504-640.jpg

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http://stereo.gsfc.nasa.gov/browse/2011/07/04/ahead/cor2/1024/20110704_010935_n7c2A.jpg

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misses earth on current trajectory, but not Mercury... That looks like where our attention should be watching...

[SkepticSoul]

i'm srry, maybe i wasnt specific enough... i'm not sayin the thread is disinfo... srry if i implied this!
i'm sayin there's alot of disinfo about this on the net i just copy the link of the thread to go up on it.

I have edited the first post as to not be disincouraged by what is said...

[Carolin]

Of course we know it's real.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_nLjpxo5IA

[SkepticSoul]

Am I missing something or is no1 intrested in this video??????

[Draco]

yes but to see full conference i needed to pay 35 dollars , this only part of it , looks good from what i saw on you tube and was ready to watch th e rest but was removed then i thought fair enough they want the traffic thru there site but when i looked i need to pay to view . im ok with paying a bit to view this cool video but 35 dollars a bit steep . im currently struggling to make ends meat and to find 35dollars is a bit much.

[ktlight]

FYI:

"The Project Camelot: Elenin conference provided a number of important insights into Comet Elenin - the most important being its artificiality, the torsion field effects it was exerting, and the possibility that it is some kind of spacecraft."

Comet Elenin is an incoming spacecraft or intelligently controlled object according to a number of presenters at a recently completed conference hosted online by the popular whistleblower website - Project Camelot. Several presenters agreed that Elenin will approach its closest points near the Sun and Earth at a time of extraordinary planetary and societal changes coinciding with the end of the Mayan Calendar. A number of anonymous whistleblowers were cited in support of the view that Elenin was an artificially controlled object responsible for widespread planetary changes in the solar system. The conference broke important ground in uncovering some of the mystery surrounding Comet Elenin, and revealing expert opinions and whistleblower testimonies describing its artificial design and the significance of its orbit. In a surprising omission, the conference organizers did not feature ground breaking scientific literature detailing the seismic impact of Elenin on Earth. Combining insights from the overlooked scientific data and the conference proceedings points to an extraordinary conclusion - Comet Elenin is generating powerful gravity disruption technologies indicative of one or more interstellar spacecraft travelling towards Earth.

The Conference: Elenin was hosted by Kerry Cassidy and featured five presenters who discussed their research data and insights on Comet Elenin. Richard Hoagland, Dr Joseph Farrell, Keith Hunter, Dr Carl Johan Calleman, and Andy Lloyd. Hoagland began the conference with a succinct presentation on the significance of Elenin's orbit, and why this pointed to it being either an artificial object under intelligent control (an ancient spacecraft) or a natural body (a comet) that has been deliberately launched on an artificial orbit. He placed special emphasis on Elenin's perihelion (closest point to the sun) on September 11, 2011 as evidence that this was a result of artificial design to draw attention to the profound geopolitical events that occurred ten years earlier. Hoagland also pointed out that around the time Elenin would be passing by the Earth's orbit on its outbound leg, that another celestial object Asteroid 2005YU55 would pass only 200,000 miles from the Earth on November 9. This was 'coincidentally', when FEMA had scheduled a FEMA Homeland Security Test where many television and radio networks would relinquish air time for some security drill - coincidence or did national security leaders know something of major significance was about to happen?

The next presenter was Keith Hunter who claimed that planets radiate harmonic signatures that influence orbits and seismic activity. Hunter clamed that Elenin is a small mass that could do something unusual if caught up in powerful harmonic configurations. Hunter's most important contribution was to point out the relationship between seismic activity and planetary configurations. Sadly, he was not aware of the work conducted by Dr Mensur Omerbashich who had put together an exhaustive study of Elenin's alignments with a number of planetary bodies during powerful seismic events on Earth. Dr Omerbashich claims that since 2006, comet Elenin has had a measurable impact on the Earth's seismic activity. Dr Omerbashich's paper was released on April 11, 2011 and is titled "Astronomical Alignments as the cause of ~M6 + seismicity."His basic idea is that as planetary bodies align with the Earth, seismic activity increases. He provides historic data on large earthquakes, greater than magnitude 6, and how these have occurred during planetary alignments.

The Mayan Calendar according to the next conference presenter, Dr Carl Calleman, operates in 9 distinct levels or waves. The ninth wave, coinciding with the End of the Mayan Calendar, occurs on October 28, 2011. Calleman believes that the world will enter a New Age based on an expanding "unity consciousness." While the precise ending of the Mayan Calendar is disputed by others advocating a December 21, 2012 end date, Calleman has produced cogent arguments for the October 2011 end date. He noted that the date coincides with Elenin's crossing of Earth's orbit suggesting it may have far more significance than generally attributed to it.

The main conference organizer, Kerry Cassidy, revealed that a number of anonymous whistleblowers had revealed that Elenin is a piloted spacecraft, and in fact was being trailed by a fleet of spacecraft. Hoagland claims that he has been confidentially told similarly by other whistleblowers of the artificial nature of Elenin. Dr Joseph Farrell agreed and claimed that Elenin was either an artificial object (controlled spacecraft) or a natural object placed in an artificial orbit. In probably the most significant observation of the conference, Hoagland claimed that Elenin was likely an active torsion field generator.

source
http://beforeitsnews.com/story/783/312/Is_Elenin_Intelligently_Controlled.html=

[Etherios]

did Hogland say that elenin is guided by someone cause there is no way that all these dates - alignments can be possible ... and also that there is a "weird" asteroid that will pass VERY VERY close to Earth and that "asteroid" is round and almost not rotating which is 100% unnatural...

So 2 "objects" are comign our way the next 2 - 3 months and they are both unnatural compared to other similar asteroids. Why does this reminds me of "Independence Day" movie??? Also of "Battle of LA" movie ...

[Calz]

did Hogland say that elenin is guided by someone cause there is no way that all these dates - alignments can be possible ... and also that there is a "weird" asteroid that will pass VERY VERY close to Earth and that "asteroid" is round and almost not rotating which is 100% unnatural...

So 2 "objects" are comign our way the next 2 - 3 months and they are both unnatural compared to other similar asteroids. Why does this reminds me of "Independence Day" movie??? Also of "Battle of LA" movie ...

Elenin alignments make for a "mathematical odds" sort of argument.

The following comet has several abnormalities (shape, rotation etc) and is supposedly going to come between the earth and moon (if it continues on it's path).

I expect there was more ... but that is the jist.

[Tommy]

Hi,

I posted this in a thread where the OP was asking about post-recordings of Awake and Aware and comments about charging for online conferences.

I thought my answer fits in here too:


Hi,

The Awake and Aware conference will be streamed live and it will also be recorded. If we are going to charge or not for the stream\recording is still to be determined. We have had our costs shooting through the roof lately due to higher demand on our websites (aka. more traffic), livestream charges us sick amounts of money for a "Network" account just so we can stream the conference to everyone (I think the figure was around 2000 USD all together just for that).

I can tell you this straight though: If we cover all expenses well on the actual event chances are we might be able to release it for free, I know this is what Kerry really wants and also myself.

It is also no secret that we are trying to live our life while working. We need to pay rent, eat food and upgrade\repair our computers like everyone else. With Project Camelot consuming more time than any ordinary day-job it is certainly hard too work two jobs to support ones expenses.

We do the absolute best we can under the circumstances, we are also trying to do this without putting our self's in debt.

Surely you can all appreciate that if we live on the streets we cant provide anything at all

Our goal is to have material free, in fact 99% still is and always will be.

The conferences is about giving something special to those interested while the ones interested can also support us by buying a ticket.

PS: The 33 USD was Hoaglands idea It was just to have some fun with symbolism (he is really into symbolic dates, numbers etc). Nothing sinister, something related to a Elenin date

[Etherios]

others think that these comets are ... weird..

Is Elenin Intelligently Controlled? (http://beforeitsnews.com/story/783/312/Is_Elenin_Intelligently_Controlled.html=)

[Calz]

others think that these comets are ... weird..

Is Elenin Intelligently Controlled? (http://beforeitsnews.com/story/783/312/Is_Elenin_Intelligently_Controlled.html=)

I will get back to you in about 3 months on that one :)

[Andrew]

Hi,

I posted this in a thread where the OP was asking about post-recordings of Awake and Aware and comments about charging for online conferences.

I thought my answer fits in here too:


Hi,

The Awake and Aware conference will be streamed live and it will also be recorded. If we are going to charge or not for the stream\recording is still to be determined. We have had our costs shooting through the roof lately due to higher demand on our websites (aka. more traffic), livestream charges us sick amounts of money for a "Network" account just so we can stream the conference to everyone (I think the figure was around 2000 USD all together just for that).

I can tell you this straight though: If we cover all expenses well on the actual event chances are we might be able to release it for free, I know this is what Kerry really wants and also myself.

It is also no secret that we are trying to live our life while working. We need to pay rent, eat food and upgrade\repair our computers like everyone else. With Project Camelot consuming more time than any ordinary day-job it is certainly hard too work two jobs to support ones expenses.

We do the absolute best we can under the circumstances, we are also trying to do this without putting our self's in debt.

Surely you can all appreciate that if we live on the streets we cant provide anything at all

Our goal is to have material free, in fact 99% still is and always will be.

The conferences is about giving something special to those interested while the ones interested can also support us by buying a ticket.

PS: The 33 USD was Hoaglands idea It was just to have some fun with symbolism (he is really into symbolic dates, numbers etc). Nothing sinister, something related to a Elenin date

Well considering it was such a fail, I would not of bothered and kept your 2000 dollars, maybe next time when you have months to prepare you should do just that and prepare the conference so that everyone is organized. Sorry but next time you have the cheek to charge people 33 dollars to watch that crap I'd do some free runs first and maybe use the donations to help with that.

[SkepticSoul]

about the anomolous asteroid

Hoagland also pointed out that around the time Elenin would be passing by the Earth's orbit on its outbound leg, that another celestial object Asteroid 2005YU55 would pass only 200,000 miles from the Earth on November 9. This was 'coincidentally', when FEMA had scheduled a FEMA Homeland Security Test where many television and radio networks would relinquish air time for some security drill - coincidence or did national security leaders know something of major significance was about to happen?

[Operator]

Is Elenin Intelligently Controlled? (http://beforeitsnews.com/story/783/312/Is_Elenin_Intelligently_Controlled.html=)

Well at least the (dis)info on it is .... sort of ... ;)

[Etherios]

Is Elenin Intelligently Controlled? (http://beforeitsnews.com/story/783/312/Is_Elenin_Intelligently_Controlled.html=)

Well at least the (dis)info on it is .... sort of ... ;)

What you refering to? there are a ton of info ... what is disinfo for you?

[Operator]

Is Elenin Intelligently Controlled? (http://beforeitsnews.com/story/783/312/Is_Elenin_Intelligently_Controlled.html=)

Well at least the (dis)info on it is .... sort of ... ;)

What you refering to? there are a ton of info ... what is disinfo for you?

It was joke ...
Now there is a lot of contradicting material on it ... so there has to be a lot of disinfo between all the good and serious stuff.
Problem with the world wide web today is that we have too many self proclaimed experts. It's true, we are a lot smarter
nowadays since we can learn more and more. But we should not pretend that we know it all now.

We're fed a lot of stuff via several channels ... all we can do is a simple smell test (validation and verification of presented data).
But we should realize most of us are still laymen on the vast number of topics fired at us daily ... so smell twice before eating
what's fed to us (until we learn how to feed ourselves !).

[Etherios]

Well i agree with you ... too much info there has to be alot disinfo :-(

[Tommy]

Andrew: Not a failure at all. Demand was high for a new one, so one is scheduled for the 22nd of July.
I don't see you running a high demand website and outlet, and that is fine. But like I won't tell you how to do your job (whatever it is) I think it would be wise to not state too much about "how to run things" on us (especially in the way you did it).

However, if someone has a good idea on how to do both things and paying for expenses at the same time (without plastering ads all over the place and etc) please write us! :)
It is nothing we appreciate more than good input!

As for the comet or whatever it is.. Well, after scientists in China reported "artificial radio-signals" behind the main "Elenin" object early in May (or end of April) I got attention turned towards it, more seriously. I am not sure what to make of it myself (yet), but I am expecting events centered around the key-dates presented, directly or indirectly.
This has also matched with other reports we have gotten.

Certainly interesting, I am still collecting data myself :)

[ghostrider]

wish we could unite and give the dwarf star a galactic push away from our neck of the woods. anyone that can OBE please help, go take a look, and see if you can influence the objects path. call me crazy but, I think there are folks here at PA that can do this. if hoagland is right, and it's under intelligent control, the annunaki need a spank on the behind for coming so close to tilt our planet, and heat up our sun and kill birds, and make sinkholes, and earthquakes, not to mention make humanity and nasa very uneasy. yes I know I'm weird, but it's the way I am. I'm comfortable with me, forgive me if I offend anyone.

[Etherios]

Well one thing is for sure these 2 comets are not Dwarf Stars ... if a star was inside the planetary system we would had seen changes in the orbits of ALL the planets. Not only Earth will be effected by a huge object like that. And so far we havent seen any change ... so that rules out anything big like a star or a huge planet.

So i am almost 100% sure that there are 2 comet sized objects that are coming towards Earth and what the real questions are :

1st Are these 2 object natural ?
2nd If not natural are they put in this trajectory by someone?
3rd Are they crafts of some kind? If yes are there any pilots onboard :-)

All these Questions will be answered very soon :-) Just 2-3 months more maybe less.

[jack]

Andrew: Not a failure at all. Demand was high for a new one, so one is scheduled for the 22nd of July.
I don't see you running a high demand website and outlet, and that is fine. But like I won't tell you how to do your job (whatever it is) I think it would be wise to not state too much about "how to run things" on us (especially in the way you did it).

However, if someone has a good idea on how to do both things and paying for expenses at the same time (without plastering ads all over the place and etc) please write us! :)
It is nothing we appreciate more than good input!

As for the comet or whatever it is.. Well, after scientists in China reported "artificial radio-signals" behind the main "Elenin" object early in May (or end of April) I got attention turned towards it, more seriously. I am not sure what to make of it myself (yet), but I am expecting events centered around the key-dates presented, directly or indirectly.
This has also matched with other reports we have gotten.

Certainly interesting, I am still collecting data myself :)


Advertisements would be a wonderful idea.

If someone is looking to make some money on youtube they upload some good content and apply for or be offered partnership. I dont see there being any major inconvenience to have a few adds knocking about plus its almost impossible to avoid them if your a regular user of the internet. Its just another fact of life. They would not deter me from visiting a website if the content was intriguing.

Asking for money in exchange for information seems a very orwellian concept and considering the nature of the information this site deals with.. people here are as about as anti-orwellian 1984 as you can get.

[Lord Sidious]

wish we could unite and give the dwarf star a galactic push away from our neck of the woods. anyone that can OBE please help, go take a look, and see if you can influence the objects path. call me crazy but, I think there are folks here at PA that can do this. if hoagland is right, and it's under intelligent control, the annunaki need a spank on the behind for coming so close to tilt our planet, and heat up our sun and kill birds, and make sinkholes, and earthquakes, not to mention make humanity and nasa very uneasy. yes I know I'm weird, but it's the way I am. I'm comfortable with me, forgive me if I offend anyone.

Why do you assume they mean to cause harm?
What if they come to help?

[astrid]

You missed the 4th option, they can be BOTH natural and under intelligent control.

GIven that these beings are tens of thousands of years ahead of us in technology,

its not hard to see that this is also possible....

And why not? Easier to manipulate something that is already built/ created, than start from scratch....

The Annunaki had been given permission by the Council to return and retrieve mining equipment,
mostly this is on Saturn , in the rings.

BUT... they are not exactly a trust worthy lot, not known much for keeping their word.
So this arrival is being carefully watched by the other groups that work hard to keep the peace in the cosmos,
hence all the ships that are escorting this object.

Going to be an interesting year no question.....

[Operator]

You missed the 4th option, they can be BOTH natural and under intelligent control.

GIven that these beings are tens of thousands of years ahead of us in technology,

its not hard to see that this is also possible....

And why not? Easier to manipulate something that is already built/ created, than start from scratch....

The Annunaki had been given permission by the Council to return and retrieve mining equipment,
mostly this is on Saturn , in the rings.

BUT... they are not exactly a trust worthy lot, not known much for keeping their word.
So this arrival is being carefully watched by the other groups that work hard to keep the peace in the cosmos,
hence all the ships that are escorting this object.

Going to be an interesting year no question.....

Interesting post ...
In one thread the existence of Annunaki are questioned and in another (this one) we have scenarios sketching out current events.
I haven't heard of this scenario (yet). And it certainly is an intriguing thought.

But if they are so advanced (tens of thousands of years ahead of us) then I doubt that they are traveling with the speed of a comet
and live on something limited like a comet.


The Annunaki had been given permission by the Council to return and retrieve mining equipment,
mostly this is on Saturn , in the rings.

What's the source of this information ?

I have no doubt we live in interesting times and we probably have spectacular events ahead.

[Calz]

wish we could unite and give the dwarf star a galactic push away from our neck of the woods. anyone that can OBE please help, go take a look, and see if you can influence the objects path. call me crazy but, I think there are folks here at PA that can do this. if hoagland is right, and it's under intelligent control, the annunaki need a spank on the behind for coming so close to tilt our planet, and heat up our sun and kill birds, and make sinkholes, and earthquakes, not to mention make humanity and nasa very uneasy. yes I know I'm weird, but it's the way I am. I'm comfortable with me, forgive me if I offend anyone.

Why do you assume they mean to cause harm?
What if they come to help?

Hoagland, although not specifying Annunaki (unless I missed it), suggests this may be a positive event as well.

[Calz]

Hi,

I posted this in a thread where the OP was asking about post-recordings of Awake and Aware and comments about charging for online conferences.

I thought my answer fits in here too:


Hi,

The Awake and Aware conference will be streamed live and it will also be recorded. If we are going to charge or not for the stream\recording is still to be determined. We have had our costs shooting through the roof lately due to higher demand on our websites (aka. more traffic), livestream charges us sick amounts of money for a "Network" account just so we can stream the conference to everyone (I think the figure was around 2000 USD all together just for that).

I can tell you this straight though: If we cover all expenses well on the actual event chances are we might be able to release it for free, I know this is what Kerry really wants and also myself.

It is also no secret that we are trying to live our life while working. We need to pay rent, eat food and upgrade\repair our computers like everyone else. With Project Camelot consuming more time than any ordinary day-job it is certainly hard too work two jobs to support ones expenses.

We do the absolute best we can under the circumstances, we are also trying to do this without putting our self's in debt.

Surely you can all appreciate that if we live on the streets we cant provide anything at all

Our goal is to have material free, in fact 99% still is and always will be.

The conferences is about giving something special to those interested while the ones interested can also support us by buying a ticket.

PS: The 33 USD was Hoaglands idea It was just to have some fun with symbolism (he is really into symbolic dates, numbers etc). Nothing sinister, something related to a Elenin date

Well considering it was such a fail, I would not of bothered and kept your 2000 dollars, maybe next time when you have months to prepare you should do just that and prepare the conference so that everyone is organized. Sorry but next time you have the cheek to charge people 33 dollars to watch that crap I'd do some free runs first and maybe use the donations to help with that.

To be fair ... remember Camelot was under a *serious* sustained DOS attack.

[Robstar]

For anyone who is interested here is the latest trajectory outlook as it passes by STEREO-B satellite. We are getting close and of course no one knows what will happen. Maybe it will pass by safely with minimal effects or we bite the big one.
Anyone who says they know do not.
Stay vigilant.
Remain calm, enjoy life and love one another, whatever will be will be. :cool:

http://secchi.nrl.navy.mil/STEREOorbit/C2010_X1.html

[astrid]

You missed the 4th option, they can be BOTH natural and under intelligent control.

GIven that these beings are tens of thousands of years ahead of us in technology,

its not hard to see that this is also possible....

And why not? Easier to manipulate something that is already built/ created, than start from scratch....

The Annunaki had been given permission by the Council to return and retrieve mining equipment,
mostly this is on Saturn , in the rings.

BUT... they are not exactly a trust worthy lot, not known much for keeping their word.
So this arrival is being carefully watched by the other groups that work hard to keep the peace in the cosmos,
hence all the ships that are escorting this object.

Going to be an interesting year no question.....

Interesting post ...
In one thread the existence of Annunaki are questioned and in another (this one) we have scenarios sketching out current events.
I haven't heard of this scenario (yet). And it certainly is an intriguing thought.

But if they are so advanced (tens of thousands of years ahead of us) then I doubt that they are traveling with the speed of a comet
and live on something limited like a comet.


The Annunaki had been given permission by the Council to return and retrieve mining equipment,
mostly this is on Saturn , in the rings.

What's the source of this information ?

I have no doubt we live in interesting times and we probably have spectacular events ahead.

If they are coming back to pick up equipment, they need to have a means to retrieve and take it back with them said equipment.. these machines are miles long,
hence the "object"/ vessel.

My "source", a combination of my own guidance and also research, take of it what u will, as with anything of course,
i just thought i would throw it into the mix of possible scenarios.

[Etherios]

For anyone who is interested here is the latest trajectory outlook as it passes by STEREO-B satellite. We are getting close and of course no one knows what will happen. Maybe it will pass by safely with minimal effects or we bite the big one.
Anyone who says they know do not.
Stay vigilant.
Remain calm, enjoy life and love one another, whatever will be will be. :cool:

http://secchi.nrl.navy.mil/STEREOorbit/C2010_X1.html

If they are under control ... they can even come and orbit earth or the moon ... we might see them slow down and eventually orbit us. Who knows :-P (Independence day lol)

[Operator]

For anyone who is interested here is the latest trajectory outlook as it passes by STEREO-B satellite. We are getting close and of course no one knows what will happen. Maybe it will pass by safely with minimal effects or we bite the big one.
Anyone who says they know do not.
Stay vigilant.
Remain calm, enjoy life and love one another, whatever will be will be. :cool:

http://secchi.nrl.navy.mil/STEREOorbit/C2010_X1.html

I zoomed in as much as possible to get to the most accurate date where Elenin crosses the orbit of STEREO-B
That will be on August 7 and it will pass by very close !

I don't know if I interpreted your post correctly. Did you suggest it is passing now or just that this is the trajectory?
If I am not mistaken it can only be visible on STEREO-B when it crossed it's orbit ...

And yes, good advice ... let's all stay calm and enjoy life ! :thumb:

[jcocks]

wish we could unite and give the dwarf star a galactic push away from our neck of the woods. anyone that can OBE please help, go take a look, and see if you can influence the objects path. call me crazy but, I think there are folks here at PA that can do this. if hoagland is right, and it's under intelligent control, the annunaki need a spank on the behind for coming so close to tilt our planet, and heat up our sun and kill birds, and make sinkholes, and earthquakes, not to mention make humanity and nasa very uneasy. yes I know I'm weird, but it's the way I am. I'm comfortable with me, forgive me if I offend anyone.

You know what? I say let 'em come. Humanity needs a wake-up call. But if they so much as lay a finger on us in anger, they'd better watch out because all hell will break loose and I think we'll learn that we have many friends up there who would protect us if push came to shove, and we'll also learn that we have latent abilities that, if we were to be put into a life-or-death situation as a planet, would be awoken with grave consequences for the attackers...

[SkepticSoul]

The man named Keith suggest that when cosmic bodies aline torsion field(s) is created.
Elinin alines a couple of times with earth including elinin/sun/earth.
What does a torsion field do? Can it be manipulated/controlled? What (after)effects does it have? ..?

[Rocky_Shorz]

As I wrote earlier, NASA is interested in observing Comet C/2010 X1 (Elenin) with the space coronagraphs SOHO and STEREO. Not long ago I received a reply from Joseph B. Gurman to the effect that starting July 17 they will be running pointing tests on the space telescope STEREO-B. The spacecraft will be rotated as will be necessary to do in the future to observe the comet. If all the tests are successful, of which the STEREO team has no doubt, they will observe Comet Elenin from July 31 to August 12, two hours a day. The minimal distance (July 31 2011, 12:40 UT) between comet and spacecraft will be 7.4 million km (0.049 AU). Plans to observe the comet using SOHO with different fliters are also in the works...story link (http://spaceobs.org/en/2011/07/04/space-observations-of-comet-elenin-may-take-place-by-july-31st/)

they are going to point Stereo-B at Elenin soon...

[Solace]

http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/images/comet/20110504/comet20110504-640.jpg

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http://stereo.gsfc.nasa.gov/browse/2011/07/04/ahead/cor2/1024/20110704_010935_n7c2A.jpg

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misses earth on current trajectory, but not Mercury... That looks like where our attention should be watching...

What?!!! Mercury isnt a sitting rock, its orbiting around the sun! Elenin misses it, sir.
http://neo.jpl.nasa.gov/orbits/images/test6476.gif

Hoaxland is full of BS. "oh my, oh my, phobos is a spacestation! artifacts everywhere! look at this pixel! this is darth vader's helmet! 2010 FULL disclosure!"
Now the same with Elenin...

I'd rather believe to hundreds of astronomers, physicists than youtube videos, and well known hoaxers.

[Rocky_Shorz]

I was just having fun, that was a current position map from NASA...

I wonder if all the quakes around New Zealand are related in some way since it is coming towards us from that direction?

[Carolin]

I have to admit I couldn't listen to the whole thing.....it was just too frustrating for me. I don't know why people would rather believe in alien and government conspiracies than a cyclical catastrophy that has happened on earth over and over again.

I ask again, how many times does a coincidence have to be a coincidence until it's no longer a coincidence???
-we experienced the biggest earthqake in known history right after the 9th wave in the Mayan calendar started on March 7th
-the end of the 9th wave or the mayan calander is October 28, 2011 that's 11 days after Elenin comes closest to Earth

There have been 54 earthquakes over 5 and 3 over 7 in the last week alone!! And apparently they changed the richter scale in 1985 so those 5's used to be 6's. It's only going to get worse. Please don't let the above information stop you from seeing what's going on around you!!!

:lalala:

[Hervé]

This is posted in the "M 7.8 Kermadec..." thread but warrants some repeat here as well as it happened to be in the ballpark...




I went back to Ski's initial posting of past and future alignments and it did not include 7/7/11.



I got one of those (alignments) by just eye-balling the JPL small body diagrams:



[...]
ETA:

Looking at that JPL Elenin orbit, it seems there's an alignment Saturn-Elenin-Mercury-Sun-Jupiter square Earth around July 6-9... good days for healers and lightworkers to practice...

That's from a rough application of John H. Nelson work (Planetary Alignments and the Solar Capacitor - Things are heatin' up! (http://www.sott.net/articles/show/229308-Planetary-Alignments-and-the-Solar-Capacitor-Things-are-heatin-up-)).

ETA:


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And:


In that same vein, just eye-balling for a rough estimate, here are other "alignments" I noticed:

Aug. 13-17: Venus-Sun-Mercury-Earth square Elenin

Sept. 27 : Mercury-Sun-Elenin-Earth-Uranus square Mars

Oct. 2-6 : Saturn-Venus-Mercury-Sun-Elenin-Earth-Jupiter square Mars-(Sun)-Pluto

Nov. 8 : Venus-Mecury-Earth-Elenin square Mars-Sun-Neptune

Nov. 30 - Dec. 2 : Sun-Mercury-Eath-Elenin square Venus

Feb. 11-17: Sun-Venus-Elenin square Mars-Earth-(Sun)-Mercury-Neptune

The thing to remember is that J.H. Nelson worked with heliocentric coordinates.

Refer to: http://www.sott.net/articles/show/229308-Planetary-Alignments-and-the-Solar-Capacitor-Things-are-heatin-up- (http://www.sott.net/articles/show/229308-Planetary-Alignments-and-the-Solar-Capacitor-Things-are-heatin-up)

[Rocky_Shorz]

I have to admit I couldn't listen to the whole thing.....it was just too frustrating for me. I don't know why people would rather believe in alien and government conspiracies than a cyclical catastrophe that has happened on earth over and over again.

I ask again, how many times does a coincidence have to be a coincidence until it's no longer a coincidence???
-we experienced the biggest earthqake in known history right after the 9th wave in the Mayan calendar started on March 7th
-the end of the 9th wave or the mayan calander is October 28, 2011 that's 11 days after Elenin comes closest to Earth

There have been 54 earthquakes over 5 and 3 over 7 in the last week alone!! And apparently they changed the richter scale in 1985 so those 5's used to be 6's. It's only going to get worse. Please don't let the above information stop you from seeing what's going on around you!!!

:lalala:

well I have seen very few conspiracy discussions, Haarp/underwater nuke mentioned but a majority of our members aren't lost in conspiracy spins, more like quiet anticipation of the next disaster...

we on one hand don't want disclosure, having real ships appear, because when they do, it will mean something Catastrophic is about to hit.

we aren't worried about being attacked, they would have done it long ago if they wanted and are so far advanced would brush our technology away in a thought...

it's like a child attacking an adults shin, the adult looks down chuckling at the attempt...

now for those in New Zealand, be ready, there is a lot going on above you, imagine all that energy from the sun, push it outward to clean the ocean... The ground has enough...

[Rocky_Shorz]

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it looks pretty bright on the Stereo shots already taken, should be excellent with it passing so close to the Satellite these next few months.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8zQTm-dous&feature=player_embedded

[ktlight]

FYI:
"Lately there has been a lot of talk about ‘ELEnin’ and the upcoming disaster which will strike Earth.. Not to mention the crazy weather we have been having… Earthquakes, Flooding and Volcanoes are only the beginning.. Below I’m going to include some undeniable evidence about a pending global meltdown and the end of the world; as we know it.. Read our other posts below before you read the ELEnin information… All these links below connect the dots to this ElEnin theory and it also suggests that ‘something’ is about to happen soon…

http://usahitman.com/nasa-memo/
http://usahitman.com/pole-shift/
http://usahitman.com/extreme-weather/
http://usahitman.com/black-out-11/
http://usahitman.com/calhoun-disaster/
http://usahitman.com/madrid-haarp/
http://usahitman.com/nofly-zones/
http://usahitman.com/flooding-2011/
http://usahitman.com/die-offs-2010/
http://usahitman.com/die-offs-2011/

Alignments Can Cause Earthquakes….

Past Alignments

Date Location Magnitude
Elenin – Earth – Sun Feb 20 2008 Indonesia 7.4
Elenin – Earth – Sun Feb 25 2008 Indonesia 7.2
Elenin – Earth–Neptune May 12 2008 China 7.9
Elenin – Earth – Sun Feb 18 2009 Kermadec Islands 7
Elenin – Earth -Jupiter May 18 2009 Los Angeles, US 4.7
Elenin – Mercury-Earth July 15 2009 New Zealand 7.8
Elenin – Mercury–Earth Aug 09 2009 Japan 7.1
Elenin – Sun – Earth Sept 09 2009 Sunola islands 8.1
Elenin – Earth – Venus Feb 18 2010 China/RU/N.Korea 6.9
Elenin – Earth-Sun Feb 25 2010 China 5.2
Elenin – Earth-Sun Feb 26 2010 Japan 7
Elenin – Earth- Sun Feb 27 2010 Chile 8.8 [Earth knocked off axis]
Elenin – Earth- Sun Feb 27 2010 Argentina 6.3
Elenin – Earth–Mercury Mar 04 2010 Taiwan 6.3
Elenin – Earth–Mercury Mar 04 2010 Vanuatu 6.5
Elenin – Earth–Mercury Mar 05 2010 Chile 6.6
Elenin – Earth–Mercury Mar 05 2010 Indonesia 6.3
Elenin – Earth–Mercury Mar 08 2010 Turkey 6.1
Elenin – Earth–Neptune May 05 2010 Indonesia 6.6
Elenin – Earth–Neptune May 06 2010 Chile 6.2
Elenin – Earth–Neptune May 09 2010 Indonesia 7.2
Elenin – Earth–Neptune May 14 2010 Algeria 5.2
Elenin – Earth–Jupiter Jan 03 2011 Chile 7
Elenin – Earth – Sun March 11 2011 Japan 9.0 [Earth knocked off axis]

Future Elenin Alignments:

Future Alignments Date Note
Aug 31 2011 Comet Elenin will become visible by the naked eye
Elenin-Mercury–Mars–Earth Sept 06 2011
Sept 10 2011 Comet Elenin will come to closest to the Sun
Mercury–Sun–Elenin Sept 25 2011
Sept 26 2011 Elenin’s minimum angle to the Sun will be 1.9º.
Oct 8 2011 Elenin will make its closest apparent pass in the night sky to Comet 45P/Honda
Oct 11 2011 Elenin 0.246au from Earth; that’s a quarter of the distance to the sun.
Oct 17 2011 Elenin closet to earth 0.232au
Oct 20 2011 Elenin will enter Earth orbit and we will experience a gravitational pull.
Nov 02 2011 Earth will enter Elenins tail/ previous path
Venus–Earth-Elenin–Mercury Nov 11 2011
Sun–Mercury–Earth–Elenin Dec 04 2011
Mars–Elenin–Jupiter Dec 25 2011

Last Alignment

Elenin – Earth – Sun Dec 21 2012

Here http://lanl.arxiv.org/abs/1104.2036 is a Scientific Paper on it which is written by Mensur Omerbashich.. He really is the only one that has researched comet C/2010 X1 (Elenin).. I highlighted something that caught my interest.. I guess well just wait to see if that’s true.. So far it’s been right.. Read This Post About The Increase in Earthquakes.. Below is an abstract of his research!

I here demonstrate empirically my georesonator concept in which tidally induced magnification of Earth masses’ resonance causes seismicity. To that end, I show that all strong (~M6+) earthquakes of 2010 occurred during the Earth’s long (t>3 day) astronomical alignments within our solar system. I then show that the same holds true for all very strong (~M8+) earthquakes of the decade of 2000s. Finally, the strongest (M8.6+) earthquakes of the past century are shown to have occurred during the Earth’s multiple long alignments, whereas half of the high-strongest (M9+) ones occurred during the Full Moon. I used the comet C/2010 X1 (Elenin), as it has been adding to robustness in terms of very strong seismicity since 2007 (in terms of strongest seismicity: since 1965). The Elenin will continue intensifying the Earth’s very strong seismicity until August-October, 2011. Approximate forecast of earthquakes based on my discoveries is feasible. This demonstration proves my hyperresonator concept, arrived at earlier as a mathematical-physical solution to the most general extension of the georesonator concept possible."

source to read more
http://usahitman.com/elenin-event/

[Eric J (Viking)]

Thanks again KT ... excellent research by usahitman ... I see one of the conferances was hosted by Kerry ... wonder if she has further feedback on this...

quote...
The Conference: Elenin was hosted by Kerry Cassidy and featured five presenters who discussed their research data and insights on Comet Elenin. Richard Hoagland, Dr Joseph Farrell, Keith Hunter, Dr Carl Johan Calleman, and Andy Lloyd. Hoagland began the conference with a succinct presentation on the significance of Elenin’s orbit, and why this pointed to it being either an artificial object under intelligent control (an ancient spacecraft) or a natural body (a comet) that has been deliberately launched on an artificial orbit. He placed special emphasis on Elenin’s perihelion (closest point to the sun) on September 11, 2011 as evidence that this was a result of artificial design to draw attention to the profound geopolitical events that occurred ten years earlier. Hoagland also pointed out that around the time Elenin would be passing by the Earth’s orbit on its outbound leg, that another celestial object Asteroid 2005YU55 would pass only 200,000 miles from the Earth on November 9. This was ‘coincidentally’, when FEMA had scheduled a FEMA Homeland Security Test where many television and radio networks would relinquish air time for some security drill – coincidence or did national security leaders know something of major significance was about to happen?

I personally don't think this will be a ELE event....interesting times to say the least...

http://www.whiteowlconspiracy.com/ufo/is-elenin-intelligently-controlled/

viking

[Tommy]

Reg. Joseph Ferrell:

We wanted the speakers to come from different standpoints so we could get a proper discussion going, however (as I mentioned in a short other public reply) he did not in fact do what he is getting paid for.
I said if the case was (as we kinda knew) that he disagreed with the other speakers (with differing opinions) he SHOULD have spoken up and said so and in that way be TRUTHFUL with our audience.
Instead he simply stated more-or-less nothing at all and later came out and said the above. I think he acted cowardly towards our audience, I expected him to at least be truthful with the audience.

I respect Joseph for his work in the field but this time he did not really impress me, at all.

To bad, I had hopes for his input :(

And if you bought into the dis-info "doom-and-gloom" reviews you were wrong, the conference did not even go into that direction at all.

At least read a review before judging ;)

[Ilie Pandia]

Hello,

I have updated the title of this thread to present what it actually is. I personally don't believe Elenin is an Extinsion Level Even and we should be careful not to present it as such.

Trouble causing event? Major distraction event? Maybe. But not extinction level event.

PS:

I can pick for example the Moon - Earth pair and find alignments with other celestial bodies in the exact same dates, so should I conclude that the Moon will cause an Extinction Level Event? Of course not.

Not to mention that the earthquake in Japan may not have had "natural causes".

[Fred Steeves]

Hello,

I have updated the title of this thread to present what it actually is. I personally don't believe Elenin is an Extinsion Level Even and we should be careful not to present it as such.

Trouble causing event? Major distraction event? Maybe. But not extinction level event.



Hi Ilie, I've a small bone to pick with you there my brother. I don't personally believe it to be an extinction level event either, but hell, couldn't we both possibly be wrong? If you believe Sitchin's translation of the Sumerian creation story, (Earth being cracked in half) then this event certainly could be extinction level. What I would like to know is, is it the mod's job to edit thread titles based on personal beliefs, or possible fear generation from a scary title?

I haven't noticed that Avalonians scare easily.


Cheers,
Fred

[Hervé]

All right, let's see what can be done here...

From the discoverer himself:



The panic on the Internet began with a genuine snapshot, published by one of the Argentine astronomers, and few people bothered to pay attention to the date - April 1st. In the center - a comet with a symbol C 2010 X1 Elenin, and on each side, wrote the scientist, - something that looks very much like two alien spacecraft. They are on their way! - the Internet exploded and started to await the end of the world.

[...]

Leonid Elenin, researcher in the Institute of Applied Mathematics says: "I receive letters that ask me to present a passport."

Interviewer: "Where the letters are coming from?"

Leonid Elenin: "Well, most of them come from the U.S.. Right now, during the last week, I was 'buried' by letters from Russia. From U.S. also came: 'We don't believe you. Show your passport.' To which I replied: Why do I have to show you anything?"

[...]

Leonid Elenin: "These are actually stars. What happens is, that during a certain process of adding several frames in relation to the velocity of the comet, these stars stretch into tracks. In principle, any astronomer should know this."

[...]

Interviewer: "It is similar to a bright spot being smeared on the picture taken at night."

Leonid Elenin: "Yes, of course. And the discovery of a comet was my dream, a childhood dream. And it was accomplished. Of course, I was happy and so on. But now, all this is happening around my comet. There are, for example, the following letters: 'Leonid, tell us the truth. I am selling my house. And my family and I are heading for the mountains.' It's nothing but hysteria. More so, the comet is absolutely safe for the Earth. It will pass at a distance of 34 million kilometers from the planet."
[...]


Full article, click: here (http://www.sott.net/articles/show/231479-Interview-with-Russian-astronomer-Leonid-Elenin-The-discoverer-of-comet-Elenin)

[Hervé]

As far as Sitchin goes:



Maybe the question we should be asking ourselves isn't whether or not Sitchin was wrong (or right), but why will it concern so many if he is (or isn't)?

Here are some of the reasons from archeologist and author Jonathan Gray and his direct enquiry to Mr. Sitchin when still alive:

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With Mr. Sitchin’s help, this bothersome matter could surely be resolved.

I waited… and waited… Seven weeks passed…

I recall vividly that Tuesday morning at the Thames post office. My heart was thumping heavily as I tore open the envelope. And there, inside, was a photocopy of my letter, with Mr. Sitchin’s few brief notes scribbled over it.

Now all would be clarified. I read on:

MY QUESTION NUMBER 1 WAS: I notice you translate “nephilim” as “people of the fiery rockets” and also “those who came down from heaven” (as closely as I remember the wording) Could you please explain how this is arrived at, using the rules of Hebrew morphology? Where do you get your understanding that "naphal" has to do with fire or rockets? In what ancient text does naphal have to do with fire or rockets?

SITCHIN’S COMPLETE RESPONSE: The Sumerian terms DIN and GUR - “people of the fiery rockets”; Anunnaki - “those who came down from heaven”. Full stop.

MY COMMENT: But, Mr S, did you see my question, which ancient text?

MY QUESTION 2: Which Sumerian text says that the Anunnaki come from the planet Nibiru - or have a connection to Nibiru, a 12th planet, or some other planet? Also that Nibiru is a planet beyond Pluto?

SITCHIN’S RESPONSE: Have you not read my books?? Stop.


COMMENT: Indeed, I had read his books. But my question was: where is the ancient text that says these things?
Okay, I had to be totally fair, so I referred Sitchin’s response to linguistic expert Michael S. Heiser, who earned his M.A. and Ph.D. in Hebrew Bible and Semitic Languages at the University of Wisconsin-Madison.

DR HEISER’S RESPONSE: “Nice answer: ‘it's in my books.’ My point precisely. It’s in his books, but not in the Sumerian texts.”

MY QUESTION 3 TO MR SITCHIN WAS: Why do many of your important word meanings or translations of Sumerian and Mesopotamian words, differ so much from Mesopotamian cuneiform bilingual dictionaries?

SITCHIN’S RESPONSE: They do? Give a couple of examples!

Our friend Mr. S sounded surprised. But he had thrown down the challenge. So that was the direction now to go.
You ask, why must I pursue this? Two reasons:

1. Millions of well-meaning people had taken his theory on board. Whole lots of people were staking their lives – and even basing their whole world view - on Mr. S’s integrity.

2. I was responsible for having quoted this dear man as a source. In my book Dead Men’s Secrets I had cited Sitchin as a knowledgeable authority concerning the Sumerians.


Excerpts from J. Gray's "Is this really Sitchin Fiction?" (http://www.beforeus.com/sitchin-fiction.pdf) (PDF file)

Sitchin didn't get a better review from Bailey, Clube and Napier in their "The Origin of Comets" either... so, right, it boils down to belief.

[Ilie Pandia]

Hi Ilie, I've a small bone to pick with you there my brother. I don't personally believe it to be an extinction level event either, but hell, couldn't we both possibly be wrong? If you believe Sitchin's translation of the Sumerian creation story, (Earth being cracked in half) then this event certainly could be extinction level. What I would like to know is, is it the mod's job to edit thread titles based on personal beliefs, or possible fear generation from a scary title?

I haven't noticed that Avalonians scare easily.


Cheers,
Fred

Hello Fred,

I get your point.

But look at how you have used your own words: "this event certainly could be extinction level". That in my view is very different from the original title of this thread.

I did not change the title because of my personal opinion, but because I think is best to keep neutral about this until there is conclusive proof about it. And I've seen no such proof.

I also did not put in the title my personal view, but rather kept my personal view as forum post. Don't you agree than the new title is more accurate? That it represents the opinion of a different site (UsaHitman.com) that Ktlight is only reporting on?

Before joining Avalon, I used this forum as source of reported information, and if Google would return a page from the Avalon Forum as a search result I would study that more carefully than from any other site, because I consider Avalon to be high quality content.

If you feel the new title is misleading, then suggest a new one (less misleading) and I promise I'll change it :)

- Ilie

[Fred Steeves]

If you feel the new title is misleading, then suggest a new one (less misleading) and I promise I'll change it :)



Nah, no biggie Ilie, just keeping you on your toes. :thumb:


Cheers,
Fred

[Carmody]

as well, nothing personal KT light, but there were 40 pages of great video and book links in that specific forum before you came along and buried them with.........what exactly? 40 pages of what????

I am particularly bothered by this.


FYI, everyone, in the next few days:

Venus square Saturn July 13 Venus Cancer, Saturn Libra

The great mother and emotions....squares off against the hard limits of justice.

[ghostrider]

the affect of a second iron oxide sun dragging thousands of pieces of space debris/junk pulling energy out of the sun, can't be hidden much longer.

[Robstar]

Rocky_Shorzit looks pretty bright on the Stereo shots already taken, should be excellent with it passing so close to the Satellite these next few months.

Uhmm..... Sorry but by the description of the video ,that the creators of the video wrote. Have explained they made a mistake and were looking at Saturn.

"IMPORTANT - AFTER MORE RESEARCH WE ARE IN AGREEMENT THAT THIS OBJECT IS PROBABLY SATURN. WE ARE WORKING ON A NEW VIDEO TO SHOW WHY WE THINK THIS AND WHERE WE THINK ELENIN SHOULD BE. WE ARE VERY SORRY FOR THE CONFUSION. THE PROBLEM WAS CAUSED BY MISCALCULATING THE FIELD OF VIEW FOR STEREO AHEAD. AFTER A LOT OF RESEARCH AND EXPERIMENTATION WE HAVE ADJUSTED THE FIELD OF VIEW AND IT SEEMS AS IF THIS IS SATURN NOT ELENIN. WE ARE VERY SORRY. PLEASE READ VIDEO DESCRIPTION FOR THE REST OF THIS COMMENT"

Very interesting situation with Elinin but lets keep searching for it and heads up! :nod:

[Rocky_Shorz]

thanks for catching that, with all the shots I've seen, it is so faint it can hardly be noticed so this video showing an incoming ball of light didn't seem right. That is the stereo that could swing to see it right now, but 2 more weeks and they will be giving us a daily glimpse of its approach from the other.

[Camilo]

An Internet search of the term, "Elenin" yields almost
100% disinformational results.

Thousands of videos and articles, posted by willfully
deceptive or woefully uneducated people claim that the
small-mass, long-period Comet Elenin, that is currently
entering the Inner Solar System will have unfathomably
apocalyptic effects on Earth.

Don't let these people lie to you!

Comet Elenin/"Nibiru"/Brown Dwarf Twin PsyOp: Elenin/"Nibiru"
www.forbiddenknowledgetv.com

[Calz]

As if elenin was not "interesting" enough ... let the battle lines be drawn.

Kerry/Camelot vs Laura Knight J/Sott.net

Will wipe the tabloid slime off as I put this together (joking). Posting from Kerry's blog then the Sott site ... then linking to older material that could actually offer a new theory on why the heck a small comet could possibly be causing massive quakes here on gaia.

Regular "don't shoot the messenger disclosure applies". Food fight is in fun ... the last portion *may* have something to offer to the mix???


Camelot Roundtable Discussions attacked by SOTT.net

Hi all,

It has been brought to my attention that Laura Knight-Jadczyk and company are making claims in regard to Richard C. Hoagland's statements during our Elenin conference... without having watched it and checking their facts or context of statements being made. Not the sign of good research.

Ryan X of SOTT.NET wrote the following..."What Cassidy, Hoagland and others have started here is most shameful. Presenting Comet Elenin as a spacecraft sent to "usher in a New Age" is just plain irresponsible considering the recent history of such claims. The UFO and contactee community tends to house some of the more mentally unstable individuals. These claims by Hoagland as promoted by Cassidy seemingly amount to shouting "Fire!" in a crowded theater."

Wow. Let's take a look at this. First of all, our conference if you have bothered to listen is a rather sober affair and costs money to view.... so whoever does so is not in a crowded theater but at home presumably watching on their computer screen. It's a calm and scientific discussion with many points of view about Elenin and other incoming bodies... And Hoagland's claim that Elenin may be a controlled body/comet sent to "usher in a new age" is simply his current hypothesis based on his current research.

For the record I don't agree with him about that part of his analysis but he has a right to voice his opinion in the Camelot Roundtable discussion format that we are pioneering on the web at this time.

What seems to be the problem with having serious researchers get together and exchange their views with whatever supporting evidence and logic they have to bring forward? Does Laura and team have a problem with open discussion in a public forum? It would seem so.

And what is she so frightened about? Actually if this is a controlled or piloted craft it has a lot more to do with who is doing the piloting rather than a "doomsday scenario". In fact, what was stressed by several of the speakers in our conference is that this is not, Nibiru or Planet X and that there is no catastrophic scenario associated with it according to our evidence.

And yes, whistleblower testimony... Way back when I interviewed her, Laura could be classified as one herself as I recall. Don't knock it. You may find yourself in that role sometime in the future...

Take it for what you will... We put out our views and information.. how it all works together is still to be determined. The primary conclusion of our conference, if you want to call it that is that we need more information.

What people won't be aware of is I asked Laura if she wanted to join us on the discussion because she wrote to me before it happened saying we would have "blood on our hands".. obviously making an assumption about conclusions she expected us to reach before we had even had the discussion!

I replied that the last time I looked free speech was alive and well on the net.

Let's hope it stays that way.

Kerry Cassidy
Project Camelot


http://projectcamelotproductions.com/blog-hp.html



Elenin, Nibiru, Planet-X - Time for a Sanity Check


Oy! Where to start?

It seems there is a veritable fever going around at the moment, all centered on Comet C/2010 X1 (Elenin) and the possible connection it may have to Nibiru - or Planet-X as it's known in some circles. This is the supposed "12th planet" that's been prophesied to come plowing through the Solar System causing a doomsday scenario for us earth-dwellers. Right now, YouTube is awash with videos on Comet Elenin, making this and that claim. Last I checked, a search for "Comet Elenin" returned over 5,000 results on YouTube alone (and that says nothing about what's going on in the blogosphere).

As we've noted here on SOTT over the years, when the noise starts to overpower the signal, that's when there's usually something brewing behind the scenes. The Powers That Be don't just put resources into obscuring certain topics for nothing; and it seems that their disinfo machine is cranked into high gear for this one. Due to all this noise surrounding these topics many questions abound: Is there something special about Comet Elenin? Does Elenin have anything to do with Nibiru/Planet-X? Is Elenin related to the chaotic weather we've experienced lately? Is Comet Elenin really a spaceship from another galaxy? Is all of this somehow related to the end of the Mayan Calendar and the 2012 doomsday prophecies? These questions are understandable given all the lies we're swimming in and the frantic nature of the material we're dealing with. Hopefully a lot of these questions will clear up towards the end of this article.

To summarize the situation, it seems that we have certain folks claiming that Comet Elenin is everything from an elaborate hoax, to a piloted alien spacecraft, to a stray neutron star, to Planet-X itself, and on and on... All the while, NASA and friends seem to be sitting back comfortably in their chairs saying, "nothing to see here, folks!" So who's figured it out? Or hasn't anyone really put all the pieces together yet? Clearly, there's a lot of truth being mixed with lies - that is for certain. The hope here is to dissect some of the noise and inject a little sanity into what is otherwise an insane discussion.

Let's go back to when this all started earlier this year and see if we can make some sense out of these claims about Elenin, Nibiru and Planet-X.

Opening a Can of Worms

Earlier this year SOTT published Laura Knight-Jadczyk's article on Comet Elenin titled "Comet Elenin is Coming!" There she discussed some of James McCanney's theories and made some rough predictions about Earth Changes due to certain alignments between the Earth, Comet Elenin and the Sun. The key to understanding this process is that these alignments have the ability to 'discharge' the solar capacitor (an area which encompasses the entire Solar System), using McCanney's terminology. When this happens, there's a much greater potential for geomagnetic effects on Earth which, as we're beginning to see, are also tied to earthquakes, volcanoes, large storms and other atmospheric anomalies. And we sure have seen a lot of this these types of events this year! However, correlation does not imply causation and there may be other factors to consider too. But it was shortly after we published Laura's article that the disinfo machine began to kick into high gear.


http://www.sott.net/articles/show/231434-Elenin-Nibiru-Planet-X-Time-for-a-Sanity-Check


Comet Elenin is Coming! Laura Knight-Jadczyk

Sott.net
Sun, 16 Jan 2011 12:57 CST

One of the members of our research team is an astronomer at a large observatory. We've been having a number of exchanges about the theories of James McCanney. Unfortunately, I can't find any really good videos of McCanney talking about his ideas. I did find the following which are basically just audio with minimal graphics. They do explain his ideas so have a listen before you continue on. If anybody has links to better videos, please let me know!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0NEHZS3IcAA&feature=player_embedded


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTylo5g0aHQ&feature=player_embedded


http://www.sott.net/articles/show/221672-Comet-Elenin-is-Coming-

[Bryn ap Gwilym]

Here is an interesting article. I also noticed the the Camelot conference video is also taking a right bashing.

Elenin, Nibiru, Planet-X - Time for a Sanity Check
http://www.sott.net/articles/show/231434-Elenin-Nibiru-Planet-X-Time-for-a-Sanity-Check

[Ba-ba-Ra]

Slightly off subject, but has anyone, besides me, noticed how many comets have been discovered by "amateur" astronomers. Elenin by an amateur Russian astronomer ~ but through the years I have noticed this many times. Just seems strange, that's all. I mean with all the big telescopes around the world and all the trained astronomers.

[Rocky_Shorz]

they have the ability to take daily images of the 360 view, run it through the computer to watch what moves, so it is really hard to believe they aren't all seen long before an amateur photographer can catch it.

[manny]

slightly off off topic...
do you think GOD is playing marbles;)

[Mandala]

Why would Laura make the comment about blood on their hands? What conclusions was she ex[ecting them to reach?

[Darla Ken Pearce]

Anyone who attacks Kerry's work for the sake of negativity is not offering us anything of value. Let her offer her own ideas instead of attacking the work and activities of others. Whether she wants to spin her wheels like this for nothing is a choice she's making but it's not productive nor fair use of our time. I noticed that she threw in a cheap shot about all UFO and Contactees being mentally unstable. Such blanket statements show a lack of respect and consideration for the legitimate experiences of others and is without basis in fact. To offer such judgments is not helpful nor fair play either. Shame on what's her name.

[EileenCookies]

I wonder if this is Kerry's first attempt to hold a private conference and charge people on-line to watch it?

It sure feels that way. Mistakes and all included. And we get to watch (oh what fun....not laughing).

Since it is a private conference (not free and open to the general public), it wasn't made available to the general readers nor is it ever scheduled to be.

So, on the one hand, Kerry found another revenue generator (fine) and on the other, we are now being ask to take sides on said conference, even though we are not even (as 'general public') allowed to see it or even comment on it (she asked people who watched it to not discuss it, at least not in a way that would interupt her revenue flow).

Sounds like this revenue streaming idea isn't so great.

I can't comment, I didn't feel I had the income available to just watch it for fun (not really into this particular discovery....for the moment) and I figured that eventually, the material would be disseminated freely.

Perhaps, it will generate her even more income, as people pay her to go back and watch it (now that there is a controversy).

Glad I am not taking sides on this issue (Laura Knight), or Kerry's new form of income (private only conferences).

eileen l.

[crosby]

hi EileenCookies, i do believe that somebody did post the interview on one of the other threads regarding this issue. or perhaps it was just parts of the interview. but i know it is out there. the participants had many interesting things to say regarding what is out there. and Darla, i agree with you, LKJ's statements are indeed a bit on the insidious side. but it makes me wonder what her motivation is to attack Kerry in such a manner. perhaps this 'food fight' will play itself out a bit more in the near future.
warmest regards, corson

[Calz]

Okay. For those that did not follow the link ... here is the "pie in the face" stuff.

Interesting that (for those not aware) Laura was interviewed by Kerry.

(note: the "blood on our hands" is anyone's guess ... but perhaps is related to the Heaven's Gate cult suicide mentioned regarding the Hale-Bopp comet mentioned)


The Ugly


Recently Kerry Cassidy of Project Camelot completed filming a "roundtable video conference" on Comet Elenin which included the likes of Richard Hoagland, Dr Joseph Farrell, Keith Hunter, Dr Carl Johan Calleman, and Andy Lloyd. At this moment, the conference in its entirety has not been released. However, selected portions have been released to the public. Most notable in this roundtable group is Richard Hoagland, of Cydonia fame (the 'face' on Mars) and his thesis that Elenin is actually a "controlled spacecraft" which is beaming Earth with gravitational torsion waves causing this increase in earthquakes. As Michael Salla of the Exopolitics Examiner reports: The main conference organizer, Kerry Cassidy, revealed that a number of anonymous whistleblowers had revealed that Elenin is a piloted spacecraft, and in fact was being trailed by a fleet of spacecraft. Hoagland claims that he has been confidentially told similarly by other whistleblowers of the artificial nature of Elenin. Dr Joseph Farrell agreed and claimed that Elenin was either an artificial object (controlled spacecraft) or a natural object placed in an artificial orbit. In probably the most significant observation of the conference, Hoagland claimed that Elenin was likely an active torsion field generator. Anonymous whistleblowers, huh?

Professor Nikolai Kozyrev, a Russian scientist was the originator of the idea of torsion waves. He developed an extremely sensitive apparatus to detect these waves, which he found occurred from any irreversible process. Due to this, his torsion waves were also denoted as "time waves" by some. He was certainly involved in some exotic physics, but the main point to understand here is that these torsion waves supposedly interact with matter in such a weak way that only the most sensitive devices could detect them. This has caused many scientists to wonder if what Kozyrev observed was even a real phenomenon at all. In any event, Hoagland doesn't appear to have grasped this concept (along with many others) if he truly believes that Elenin is emitting torsion waves which are somehow strong enough to cause earthquakes.

But really?... Elenin?... a piloted spacecraft?.. As in, UFO or 'alien' spacecraft? Forgive me for stating the obvious, but UFOs tend to be extremely elusive objects, popping in and out of reality with uncanny, synchronistic timing. We've been tracking the more notable sightings for years here on SOTT, so we have a pretty good idea what to expect from the UFO phenomenon overall. If UFOs are such slippery entities, why would they suddenly choose the form of a plainly visible comet to zip past the planets, when they typically can't even stay in our reality long enough for people to photograph them? Frankly, the assertion that Elenin is a "controlled spacecraft" isn't falsifiable, so there's little we can say about the matter. In other words, like much of what Hoagland claims, it's not even wrong.

What's unfortunate about relating Elenin to UFOs is that Kerry Cassidy, Richard Hoagland and the other folks involved with this Project Camelot "roundtable video conference" are setting up another scenario similar to what occurred with Comet Hale-Bopp in the late 90's. Back then some astronomers photographed a body trailing Comet Hale-Bopp, causing many to openly speculate that it might be a UFO. This ultimately led to the Heaven's Gate mass suicide. According to the Hale-Bopp entry on Wikipedia: In November 1996 amateur astronomer Chuck Shramek of Houston, Texas took a CCD image of the comet, which showed a fuzzy, slightly elongated object nearby. When his computer sky-viewing program did not identify the star, Shramek called the Art Bell radio program Coast to Coast AM to announce that he had discovered a "Saturn-like object" following Hale - Bopp. UFO enthusiasts, such as remote viewing proponent Courtney Brown, soon concluded that there was an alien spacecraft following the comet.[51] Several astronomers, including Alan Hale,[52] claimed the object was simply an 8.5-magnitude star, SAO141894, which did not appear on Shramek's computer program because the user preferences were set incorrectly.[53]

Later, Art Bell even claimed to have obtained an image of the object from an anonymous astrophysicist who was about to confirm its discovery. However, astronomers Olivier Hainaut and David J. Tholen of the University of Hawaii stated that the alleged photo was an altered copy of one of their own comet images.[54]

A few months later, in March 1997, the Heaven's Gate cult chose the appearance of the comet as a signal for their mass cult suicide. They claimed they were leaving their earthly bodies to travel to the spaceship following the comet.[55]
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Richard Hoagland claims Comet Elenin is a "controlled spacecraft"It should be noted that Art Bell and Richard Hoagland had a long-standing relationship for many years. It seems awfully fishy that Hoagland is now promoting a similar story about Comet Elenin given what transpired with Heaven's Gate over a decade ago. What Cassidy, Hoagland and others have started here is most shameful. Presenting Comet Elenin as a spacecraft sent to "usher in a New Age" is just plain irresponsible considering the recent history of such claims. The UFO and contactee community tends to house some of the more mentally unstable individuals. These claims by Hoagland as promoted by Cassidy seemingly amount to shouting "Fire!" in a crowded theater.

But you can't really count something as a total disinfo job until Sorcha Faal (a.k.a. David Booth) gets in on the action. In a recent article titled "Top US Space Expert Issues Catastrophic Warning On Comet Elenin" published on the whatdoesitmean.com website, Booth highlights Hoagland's claim by emphasizing this so-called "secret code" which agents unknown have apparently embedded in the JPL data on Comet Elenin. (Just a note, it should be obvious by now that Richard Hoagland should never be considered an "expert" on anything other than COINTELPRO activities.) The 'secret coding' referred to by Hoagland contained on the JPL website falls under the "Orbit Determination Parameters" statistics information block that lists the producer of the data as being "Otto Matic."

According to Hoagland's report, the significance of the name "Otto Matic" being associated with Comet Elenin lies with it only being able to be associated with a video game developed by Pangea Software, published by Aspyr Media and then released to the public on 11 September 2001, the same day the United States suffered a crippling attack.

Hoagland further asserts in his report that is "beyond coincidence" that Comet Elenin is scheduled make its closest approach to the Sun on the 10th anniversary of the 9/11 attacks, 11 September 2011, and that on 11 November 2011 (11-11-11) its orbit will carry it into a "grand alignment" between itself, the Earth and other planets in our Solar System. Seriously?!? Keep in mind this is whatdoesitmean.com, which tends to take the looniest of the loony claims, then wrap them up in a nice package with a few credible side stories. I mean, I'd like to think that most people can see right though this stuff for the lies, half-truths and psuedo-logic that it is, but I'm afraid that there are probably some people that will fall for stuff like this. Hoagland, by way of David Booth and Kerry Cassidy, appears to be leading a bunch of folks along on a wild goose chase! Needless to say, the disinfo machine appears to be running on all four-cylinders at this point!

[P.S. - The above appears to come from Elenin, Nibiru, Planet-X - Time for a Sanity Check (sott.net) (http://www.sott.net/articles/show/231434-Elenin-Nibiru-Planet-X-Time-for-a-Sanity-Check). -- Paul, Aug 16, 2011]

[loveandgratitude]

Truth Quest
with Melodee Hallett
Her guest is Alfred Webre............ www.exopolitics.com

http://mp3.oraclebroadcasting.com/truthquest/truthquest.2011-07-09_16k.mp3

TALKS ABOUT COMET ELENIN BEING A FALSE FLAG EVENT PLUS MANY OTHER INTERESTING TOPICS

[onawah]

Elenin being a false flag event makes a lot of sense to me, and the idea that TPTB have created it to target Conspiracy Theorists especially. Their tactics are so obvious and reek of desperation, but there sure are a lot of people falling for it. So much hysteria over something which, IMHO, will prove to have been just another tempest in a teapot. Sad.

[Calz]

Who knows???

If that is the case then "they" would need to be doing the haarp/scalar/whatever thing on the last 4 alignments to cause the major quakes.

[loveandgratitude]

Comet Elenin is real. It does exist. But it seems that TPTB are going to use it, just as in the Japan Quake to their advantage and blame Comet Elenin for eathquakes etc. This means using HAARP and scalar weapons. We can use timelines to prevent this.

[Calz]

Comet Elenin is real. It does exist. But it seems that TPTB are going to use it, just as in the Japan Quake to their advantage and blame Comet Elenin for eathquakes etc. This means using HAARP and scalar weapons. We can use timelines to prevent this.

Okay ... I'll bite :croc:

For the benefit of those here who *DO* understand timelines ... what are you suggesting???

:bolt:

[loveandgratitude]

Russian astronomer LEONID ELENIN comes out to debunk the "Extinction Level Event" psy-op.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MD-V6KmiB78&feature=player_embedded

That's a historic moment. The discoverer of the comet named after his own name, LEONID ELENIN, shows up in an interview for Russian HTB NTV to give his version of the scientific facts about the cosmic object and debunk the conspiracy theories that claim that he doesn't exists, that the comet is actually a brown dwarf, that an alien armada is coming behind it and that the name ELENIN is a code for "Extinction Level Event Nibiru In November". Is Leonid Elenin authentic and truthful or is he covering up sensitive details kept in secret by TPTB???

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Comet Elenin is real. It does exist. But it seems that TPTB are going to use it, just as in the Japan Quake to their advantage and blame Comet Elenin for eathquakes etc. This means using HAARP and scalar weapons. We can use timelines to prevent this.

Okay ... I'll bite :croc:

For the benefit of those here who *DO* understand timelines ... what are you suggesting???

:bolt:

LISTEN TO THE INTERVIEW WITH ALFRED WEBRE
http://mp3.oraclebroadcasting.com/tr...-07-09_16k.mp3

[stardustaquarion]

There is panic folks and it is unjustified. Hoagland himself says Elenin is tiny. As for the rest of his claims, ejemmm...I think it is just speculation. Dates are interesting but let us not forget that the gregorian calendar was created by the illuminati and that they have in their hands the real history of humanity. It is entirely possible that this is not the first time for Elenin

As for blood in Kerry's hands...well, I believe in self responsibility so if anyone decides to believe in all the nonsense said in the video conference, it is a choice

It is good old sensationalism, the kind of News of the World style...a lot of noise and no bananas

Why is Kerry doing this, who knows, brain control? it can happen to anyone...:flame:

[Hervé]

Russian astronomer LEONID ELENIN comes out to debunk the "Extinction Level Event" psy-op.



These are excerpt translations of the interview:


All right, let's see what can be done here...

From the discoverer himself:



The panic on the Internet began with a genuine snapshot, published by one of the Argentine astronomers, and few people bothered to pay attention to the date - April 1st. In the center - a comet with a symbol C 2010 X1 Elenin, and on each side, wrote the scientist, - something that looks very much like two alien spacecraft. They are on their way! - the Internet exploded and started to await the end of the world.

[...]

Leonid Elenin, researcher in the Institute of Applied Mathematics says: "I receive letters that ask me to present a passport."

Interviewer: "Where the letters are coming from?"

Leonid Elenin: "Well, most of them come from the U.S.. Right now, during the last week, I was 'buried' by letters from Russia. From U.S. also came: 'We don't believe you. Show your passport.' To which I replied: Why do I have to show you anything?"

[...]

Leonid Elenin: "These are actually stars. What happens is, that during a certain process of adding several frames in relation to the velocity of the comet, these stars stretch into tracks. In principle, any astronomer should know this."

[...]

Interviewer: "It is similar to a bright spot being smeared on the picture taken at night."

Leonid Elenin: "Yes, of course. And the discovery of a comet was my dream, a childhood dream. And it was accomplished. Of course, I was happy and so on. But now, all this is happening around my comet. There are, for example, the following letters: 'Leonid, tell us the truth. I am selling my house. And my family and I are heading for the mountains.' It's nothing but hysteria. More so, the comet is absolutely safe for the Earth. It will pass at a distance of 34 million kilometers from the planet."
[...]


Full article, click: here (http://www.sott.net/articles/show/231479-Interview-with-Russian-astronomer-Leonid-Elenin-The-discoverer-of-comet-Elenin)

[Rocky_Shorz]

hope not, he wouldn't miss...

[The One]

Source http://beforeitsnews.com/story/845/104/PPE-_Psyops_Project_Elenin.html

PPE- Psyops Project Elenin

The Psyops Project Elenin: Has been linked to a psychological warfare operation – intended to engage public fear using The Near Earth Orbit Comets Elenin, Levy and Honda (which will pass near Earth in the Fall of 2011) the project is part of a up and coming test and environmental attack on specific human settlements and populations using the HAARP Weather Warfare System.

You know that's the one that uses radio waves to heat the ionosphere and change weather patterns, the system is so backed that they made everyone change the frequencies of the television stations so they have no potential interference in their applications.



OH YEAH IT GETS BETTER

Is The White House Letter A Smoking Gun that Elenin is a threat or is it a Psyops Promoter?

On Oct 15, 2010, the White House issued a letter highlighting the hazards of near earth objects including comets. One fair interpretation of the White House letter is that it’s timing may be part of the Comet Elenin Psyops.

This 10-page letter has been out on the web since October 2010, which proves that US NASA and the White House know about ELENIN and consider it “a real threat”

"The terminology used in this letter, will lead one to believe that our 'shadow' government and elements within NASA have long known that anticipated effects of the arrival of Comet Elenin would indeed be much greater than they are telling the public.

Gentlemen start your engines…

The time is now…With Elenin, Levy, Honda and “Bart Simpson Gordon” coming to a planet near you, these signs and wonders in the skies, will be fuel for the drum beating propaganda screaming pickpockets to point their fingers up to the sky, and have everyone look up while they smilingly fleece your wallet.

This “Wag the Dog” effect has been working so well for so long, it is a mainstay in the bag of tricks, the political magicians constantly use…

Re-election time…= weapons of mass destruction, or oh we are at war you shouldn’t change the pretzel-dent during war, ETC.

Now through shadow government Psyops Blogger’s under the guise of freedom of speech, or informing the public, and you have the perfect storm, with these blogger’s misinformation being used to bug out people and get then to trust the local bully for protection.

Seriously if a comet is going to hit the earth, then there is noting anyone can do but get right with GOD.

BUT no such thing is going to happen, DON’T PANIC, be wise in knowledge and faith.
With the threat of increasing our taxes trillions of dollars, the EU dropping like a dead bird, wars and rumors of wars throughout the middle east, now is NOT the time to be looking to the skies, now is the time to be putting the corrupt government officials in jail.

If YOU cheat on your taxes what will happen? YET… the government is talking about no tax returns, cutting the governments social security bank account, YES the governments, all that money we have all put in, since 1935, every working American every week for 76 years. GONE…and what about those that died before they got to collect, where is their money?

They are just going to take it all; they are not satisfied with the double dipping for 76 years the greedy want it all.

Now is NOT the time to be looking up, unless its in prayer, this is the time for the capital hill crooks to be put in jail…

Watch what’s next…when you voice your constitutional free voice you will be considered an extremist or enemy or the state and stuck or “detained” in the brand new FEMA interment camps that are going up all over the country.

Here is the 10 page White House Letter’s link, read it for yourself…

And the next time you read some pseudo-science wannabe’s comments, or some other joker’s misdirection.

Question what their agenda really is?

Is it to gain knowledge?

Or to cause mass confusion, and even the deaths of the weaker minded?

This is more like an attempt to derail the train of thought, and stop the movement forward?

Speaking of which here is the White House Near Earth Object Letter LINK http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/microsites/ostp/ostp-letter-neos-house.pdf

[steveofengland]

I think if the powers that be were going to use elenin for this purpose it would have made big mainstream news long ago. It does make one wonder what is disinformation and what is not? it does confuse things somewhat.

[TargeT]

the patterns are there and this does not fit.

if ELENIN was a psyops it would be splashed ALL over the news like the murdoc distraction..

No, there is far too much evidence that elenin is a visitor that has been near our planet before (the statue of liberty is a representation of Virgo (the virgin) holding the Destroyer (ELEnin) in her out stretched hand, which is exactly where elenin will line up this fall (with the constellation virgo's hand...)

Virgo (justice, ISIS, what ever aspect of that "god" you want to name) is represented all over the place with the flaming torch, or light in her outstretched hand.. this systemic symbolism cannot be ignored!

[dddanieljjjamesss]

This thread is on the money.



I question all this youtube driven hysteria in its entirety.
Who are these people, do they have the scientific background, and what are their motives?

I am pushing this idea in the other Elenin thread, but I think it would be wise to question people like UrsuAdams or Terral03... perhaps now I am suspicious also of people like DutchSinse... especially since he wants you to buy an underground bunker...

[ghostrider]

I think our biggest obstacle is passing thru the tail of elenin, could rain meteors of fire across the globe. lightworkers time to push this comet away from planet earth together we can change the future....believe or don't just meditate or pray in your own way what works for you push this thing away from earth- time to show our power is now.....

[lindabaker]

This thread is on the money.



I question all this youtube driven hysteria in its entirety.
Who are these people, do they have the scientific background, and what are their motives?

I am pushing this idea in the other Elenin thread, but I think it would be wise to question people like UrsuAdams or Terral03... perhaps now I am suspicious also of people like DutchSinse... especially since he wants you to buy an underground bunker...

Dutch is saying to stay away from the bunkers. Earthquake activity. Check it out in his list of videos, about four days back or so. He is not selling bunkers...are you seeing advertising or something?

[Hervé]

I think our biggest obstacle is passing thru the tail of elenin, could rain meteors of fire across the globe. lightworkers time to push this comet away from planet earth together we can change the future....believe or don't just meditate or pray in your own way what works for you push this thing away from earth- time to show our power is now.....

You are onto someting ghost... very close to another False Flag being prepared... here's how it could go as it has been being prepared over the last few years, here's how it's been run:


*_Various experiment in crowd reactions over pandemics: SAAR, West Nile Virus, H5N1, H1N1

*_Pandemic declaration over H1N1

*_Vaccines scam

*_Food nutrients brought down to zero while getting rid of food supplements, vitamins, CS, MMS, etc...

*_"Poisonning of the wells" through fluoridation and fracking

*_ NASA and various organisations "discovering" that viruses, bacteria and other nasty organisms survive for millions of years in space inside asteroids, meteors, COMETs, etc... and even survive a firy crash on Earth!

*_Elenin hype and accompanying doom and gloom, i.e. lowering of imune system efficiency.


*_Elenin's tail blamed for bringing in new kinds of lethal super bugs while:

*_Biological WMDs released world wide courtesy of those accusing the vast majority of the planet's population of being "useles eaters!"

Neat, eh?

[loveandgratitude]

LOL...........that was funny.............LOOK UP, LOOK OVER THERE............... WHILE THEY STEAL YOUR WALLETS.
Old games still works well.

[The Truth Is In There]

You are onto someting ghost... very close to another False Flag being prepared... here's how it could go as it has been being prepared over the last few years, here's how it's been run:


*_Various experiment in crowd reactions over pandemics: SAAR, West Nile Virus, H5N1, H1N1

*_Pandemic declaration over H1N1

*_Vaccines scam

*_Food nutrients brought down to zero while getting rid of food supplements, vitamins, CS, MMS, etc...

*_"Poisonning of the wells" through fluoridation and fracking

*_ NASA and various organisations "discovering" that viruses, bacteria and other nasty organisms survive for millions of years in space inside asteroids, meteors, COMETs, etc... and even survive a firy crash on Earth!

*_Elenin hype and accompanying doom and gloom, i.e. lowering of imune system efficiency.


*_Elenin's tail blamed for bringing in new kinds of lethal super bugs while:

*_Biological WMDs released world wide courtesy of those accusing the vast majority of the planet's population of being "useles eaters!"

Neat, eh?

http://www.trueknowledge.com/images/thumbs/180/250/World_War_Z_book_cover.jpg

[astrid]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UwOTp_ZYJeo

I'm not sure if that has been posted yet, but for sure some freaky parallels.....

[Ammit]

It seems very close to the nuckle, it does seem this film, like others are telling us what is happening to our planet.

[crosby]

astrid, thank you for posting this. i'm going to get this movie and watch it. and you're correct, there are an awful lot of parallels in this. thanks so much.
regards, corson

[astrid]

Same here, i'm going to watch the full movie myself this weekend, it has me intrigued....

[astrid]

http://www.ufo-blogger.com/2011/07/deep-impact-turning-into-reality-comet.html

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-6aIXaXatskA/TifnVeDv5sI/AAAAAAAACME/r7tEWDW7SEQ/s640/Elenin-deepimpact.jpg

"IT HAS LONG BEEN KNOWN that Hollywood’s movie scheduling is, in reality, more like ‘predictive programming’. For instance, the Internet is humming with speculation that recent, seemingly unrelated events (and much covert planning), are in fact preparations for the imminent arrival of Comet Elenin—a scenario that precisely mirrors the storyline of the 1998 movie “Deep Impact”.

We have been watching Deep Impact (Here) movie has some very strange parallels to what is happening now. It remarkably mirrors our current situation with comet elenin. In the movie the comet is called elle and it stands for extinction level event. The name elle was used as sort of a cover or subliminal message. Elijah Woods's character is named Leo and he was the first to discover the comet.

In real life Leonid Elenin discovers Elenin with small 18” telescope Comet discovered in Leo. Leonid is also the name of a meteor shower and where do most meteors come from?(Some doubt Leonid Elenin actually exists, and that his name is code for the upcoming event)

The other discovers died in a car crash. The president is black.

About 1 hour into the movie we have two comets, one over a mile wide and one 6 miles wide. We also have two comets coming in comet Honda(7m) is 1 mile wide and 6 miles wide is as good a guess as any for Elenin(21m). Both these comets will come close to Earth and should be seen in the sky at the same time as they pass between the Earth and Sun.

In the movie they developed a new rocket that contains a nuclear reactor called Orion.

NASA has been testing one such rocket already called Ares. One of it's main purposes is to make it easier for us to get to Mars...the name of that "Mars" mission is Orion. Once the Ares rocket couples with the Orion capsule the mission will be referred to simply as Orion. The rocket from movie also has six burners that they use after the first stage rocket has been used, just like Ares.

Keep in mind that in the movie the larger Comet/ELE did not hit the the Earth, but the smaller Comet/YU 55/Honda/Levy did.

As far as we know, the calculations are still being made to see how close it will come to Earth.

Here are just a few more similarities:

The launch of the space shuttle Atlantis, meeting the Russians on the ISS.
Obama bringing home 33,000 troops.

Two weeks till USA budget solved. Obama and Congress fighting over it now.

The resignation of the “Secretary of Treasury” in August.

“The Messiah is the largest space vehicle ever constructed”—So is the ISS (Issa is Arabic for Jesus/Messiah).

August 16th: the date that Earth crosses Comet Honda’s orbital path, 0.082AU.

Wall clock set to 911 on September 11, 2011—Elenin closest point to the sun. This is the day that Elenin(tail may touch Earth) will pass between the Earth and Sun. It is interesting to note here that on 9/11/2011 Elenin will be closest to the Sun and passing though the solar plane on the same day. The 10th anniversary off the 911 disaster.

Down below is captured frame matches, JPL Orbital sim., from June 23rd 2011. Elenin’s orbital path similar to comet in movie.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-9Ni0CCRTVZU/TifWQIg3aEI/AAAAAAAACMA/yFte3T3ISsw/s640/Elenin-Deepimpact.gif

"More facts to consider:

We have two celestial objects heading toward Earth, that will come very close to us.

The governments of the world have been building 1000s of deep underground bunkers (D.U.M.B.s) for many years.

FEMA has been very busy, building ‘camps’ and has acquired millions of body bags. They are preparing for some big event. They are also stockpiling millions of tons of dried food.

There is growing evidence (see Carl Johan Calleman) that the 2012 Mayan calendar endpoint may actually be October 28th 2011—very close to the time we pass though Elenin’s debris field.

The Hopi ‘End of the World prophecy’ talks about two celestial objects, “Red Kachina” and “Blue Kachina“. Two events, one messes us up and the next ends us. (Kachina=Star or comet)"

[pharoah21]

This is truly amazing.........

[ghostrider]

check out morgan freeman's press brief ( the space shuttle ATLANTIS has lifted off to meet with the messiah) . did't atlantis just launch last week? a black president in the movie. a black president now? hmmmmm?

[kevlar]

Hi
I watched this film the other day and I was shocked at all the "coincidences".
I do think this is significant.

love kevlar

(starring tea LEONI d elenin)

[kathymarie]

I remember when the movie came out and I wondered then if we were being prepared for something...but so much time has passed since '98 I guess I just forgot. Hearing "ellie"...."ele"...for extinction level event during the movie really struck a chord with me. I guess we all should start preparing. Any ideas about what to do other than the obvious of food, water, meds?

[kathymarie]

Also interesting....I just learned that FEMA is launching a nationwide alert emergency disaster test on November 9, 2011. Wonder if the government would deny anything is actually happening right in the midst of a cataclysm? Would they launch a "test" in order to fool people into thinking it was JUST A TEST? I think I know the answer.

[Siegfried The 7]

Movies that mirror real life events usually seem to come long before events take place.

Sometimes I wonder if this is done so that we forget and when we are given a similar scenario, subconsciously we will act out what we have seen in the corresponding movie.

Another form of programming or directing the flow of the herd.

With that being said, some situations are not to be taken likely and anything thats an ELE is not to be played with. IMO




On another note, often I look up past movies and watch them.

You can find many scenarios that we have played out long after they were introduced.

Some have yet to take place.

Its very interesting to see how we are influenced to think and behave.

[Aurvandil]

Phew, all of this is really scary! There are so many coincidences for it to be a mere... coincindence. Especially the orbital paths are freaking me out. Deep impact has always been my favourite among these catastrophe movies since it seems almost real and certainly not tongue-in-cheek like Independence day or Armageddon. Must look into the background of it a bit...

And yes - the fact that Tea LEONI, as pointed out by Kevlar, is leading lady in the movie says it all...:shocked::shocked:

[Lazlo]

I have been really busy and have not been posting much. I just decided to check in today and see what was going on. Now I am going to have to find time to watch this movie again!

If I remember correctly, someone in the movie was stocking up and had pallets of Ensure nutrition drinks. Stock up now before the rush ;)

Anyone else notice that Obama's hair has started going white lately...looks a bit like Morgan Freeman's.

[toothpick]

Great thread astrid.
The parallels are just incredible, and a little concernng as well.

toothpick

[astrid]

me think this thread is a

:bump:

[dddanieljjjamesss]

This is more reason to believe in the psyop possibility than the 'reality' of elenin.
This is your trauma based mind control, and many here are falling into that fear program and accepting the disinfo being spun.

Remember, this is your experience! You are in charge of it!

[astrid]

@ danieljames, EXACTLY

[Maia Gabrial]

Amazing, isn't it? That the US has a law that says they don't have to tell us anthing they think we'll panic over...And YET when they have no more options to deceive us, they finally come clean. Never mind that if all of us had had enough time to prepare, we could have done something. But TPTB being who they are, wouldn't allow that. That lottery is for the pions because TPTB already have their security assured in those tax funded underground bases....Sad that not everyone who paid into it will get to use it....Ironic, isn't it?
Bravo, jerks!
You connected the dots pretty well, astrid. Thanks.

[Camilo]

It has been said we can change this from happening with our united/collective intention, so let's do it!

[Hervé]

Interesting that the FEMA "drill" is set for November...

... because of this possible scenario:



I think our biggest obstacle is passing thru the tail of elenin, could rain meteors of fire across the globe. lightworkers time to push this comet away from planet earth together we can change the future....believe or don't just meditate or pray in your own way what works for you push this thing away from earth- time to show our power is now.....

You are onto someting ghost... very close to another False Flag being prepared... here's how it could go as it has been being prepared over the last few years, here's how it's been run:


*_Various experiment in crowd reactions over pandemics: SAAR, West Nile Virus, H5N1, H1N1

*_Pandemic declaration over H1N1

*_Vaccines scam

*_Food nutrients brought down to zero while getting rid of food supplements, vitamins, CS, MMS, etc...

*_"Poisonning of the wells" through fluoridation and fracking

*_ NASA and various organisations "discovering" that viruses, bacteria and other nasty organisms survive for millions of years in space inside asteroids, meteors, COMETs, etc... and even survive a firy crash on Earth!

*_Elenin hype and accompanying doom and gloom, i.e. lowering of imune system efficiency.


*_Elenin's tail blamed for bringing in new kinds of lethal super bugs while:

*_Biological WMDs released world wide courtesy of those accusing the vast majority of the planet's population of being "useles eaters!"

Neat, eh?

Everything set up for "plausible deniability"...

[Lancelot]

I never have liked trashy explosion films and Im even less inclined to watch this one given the nature of message it seems to be giving.

Focus on the real, not the invented. Create the positive, not focus on the negative.

See you in December! :)

[dddanieljjjamesss]

Check out this video
Pics at the end

http://www.youtube.com/F4HHTH1lrD8

whatever may be happening, I find this beautiful

[GlassSteagallfan]

Lets assume the following:

1. ET's are the creators of this wonderful genetic experiment called the human being (per Charles interview)
2. ET's are presently here watching the course of human history unfold (including disabling of nuclear facilities) per David Wilcock
3. Although a holocost may happen, it will not be allowed to end the experiment.

Then I suggest this to you:

If you were [one of] the creator(s), would you let a damn rock end your million year experiment?

P.S. Fear and violence is the bread maker of Hollywood

[SkepticSoul]

Lets assume the following:

1. ET's are the creators of this wonderful genetic experiment called the human being (per Charles interview)
2. ET's are presently here watching the course of human history unfold (including disabling of nuclear facilities) per David Wilcock
3. Although a holocost may happen, it will not be allowed to end the experiment.

Then I suggest this to you:

If you were [one of] the creator(s), would you let a damn rock end your million year experiment?

P.S. Fear and violence is the bread maker of Hollywood

Weren't there extinction level events before...?
Like euhm.. the flood from the bible.. atlantis... etc...
it's not so difficult to imagine it's possible that it could happen...
The universe is all powerful and very mysterious, it is very creative but very destructive at the same time.

[Eric J (Viking)]

Most of you know about the Swiss bank note with Elenin/Nibiru/Dwarf Star/Wormwood...well whatever you want to call it!!

Anyway this chap has done some research on the Swiss Bank Note with some interesting info...

~~~~~~~~

Elenin is a very dangerous cosmic object. Sometimes we need to watch what an object does as well as watching the object while looking for clues. Elenin is not visible to the naked eye, but does appear to have an EM effect on our solar system at distances of 14+ AUs. Elenin is also dangerous because it is a long period (10000+ years) comet whose tail the Earth passes through. Comets are not balls of ice and dust like Nasa states. Nasa will not release this information because there is absolutely nothing anyone can do about it except panic. Sit back and enjoy the ride and be thankful to be alive in this time to bear witness to this event.

http://endgametime.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/img_34361.jpg?w=640&h=608

Further reading and pictures of Bank Notes>>>>
http://endgametime.wordpress.com/comet-elenin-let-their-be-light/

"The drawing by Leonhard Euller constructed over 330 years ago signifies an event occurring on September 26, 2011 "



~~~~~~~~

viking

[dddanieljjjamesss]

The banknote thing has been debunked... its not elenin's orbit, but the orbit of the comet that Euller discovered
if you dig through the 30 page elenin thread someone from that region will tell you this..

[dddanieljjjamesss]

I saw a video where he went to a production facility that was making DIY bunkers.
Unless it was just a 'related video' I'm pretty sure it was one of his uploads from last week or so.

[Operator]

I think our biggest obstacle is passing thru the tail of elenin, could rain meteors of fire across the globe.

Kevlar overhead shielding on Denver airport ... ?

http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcS4UsxhDWcLiCAVkcxbwQAZcKIe4KyGhDpJN-32UvV6t3C5RVyJ

[Kamikaze]

Everything is being served as per the menu we were given.

...So we finally see the part about the asteroids/comets playing out as terrorists have played their part?
(the middle east kind at least, now it's domestic far right etc... it's a new focus coming and set on stage)

I wonder how quickly we get served the main course after all these appetizers. And what's finally for dessert? It's still a surprise to be seen, I've seen no mention of it yet.
"Chefs surprise" it says.

Who is the chef and how did he come up with this exquisite menu?
It's been a eye popping wonder in execution thus far. I wonder where he found the ingredients to play so well together, what's the secret?

Will we be sitting around waiting in anticipation out of wonder for the next meal or will we find out at all before we've eaten it all?

I really wonder what secret lies behind.
Will he present himself and his secrets in the end, or are we by then to full to pay attention on whats really going on? ...

--------------------------------------
But really... things seem to come to main course quite quickly. Asteroids just coming up to the table.
Do you remember all will be fine even though a little upsetting about the asteroid? It's the next event that's what we are waiting for.
But that dessert sure must be something to match the rest when we finally come through the main dish after all.

[Etherios]

LOL...........that was funny.............LOOK UP, LOOK OVER THERE............... WHILE THEY STEAL YOUR WALLETS.
Old games still works well.

WoW you still think this is about money? They make the money they dont care about yours. The more you have the more they CONTROL you, or the less you have the more the OWN you. There is no middle ground for them either you are one of them (lower status ofc) and they control you OR you are one of the rest of us they they think they own you and your life.

This has stopped being about your wallet for many many decades.

[steveofengland]

Releasing info on you tube is a non starter for tptb, only a tiny minority of the population look at them. If they wanted sheeple to to know anything about this event it would be mainstream already.

[Etherios]

Releasing info on you tube is a non starter for tptb, only a tiny minority of the population look at them. If they wanted sheeple to to know anything about this event it would be mainstream already.

maybe if they over expose it few days maybe 2 weeks before the events ... the shock will be greater as there wont be time to research about it and no time to think about it. So they will just beg for a savior....

[steveofengland]

What do view have to gain from destroying their own worker bees? Sure the world is overcrowded sn it would make sense for them to wipe out any unproductive third world "nests"
But the disasters we are witnessing are happening all over the globe. they need us.
They are in a state of panic. Are they letting things go to pot because they know it will all be over soon?

[Operator]

It's actually not that complicated ... when you want to push people in a certain direction you first tire them to the bone, get them into uncertainty and fear.
After that process is done you can start build them up again anyway way you like. It's an old trick they e.g. also use for training military officers.

People appear so tough nowadays but I can guarantee you that can be very quickly done and over with. We might be more vulnerable than we think.
Most of us are so tough because we have not that much uncertainty, feel secure and safe. But if at one moment there is no radio, no television, no internet.
no more mobile phones, no electricity etc. etc. (or just a few items of this list). The false secure feeling of society disappears as snow in the sun and then
it will come down to US ... how much we learnt, how tough we really are. The ones that prepared will still feel safe and secure.

[Snowbird]

This Elenin/Nibiru/YU55 issue has as many varied opinions as does how Princess Diana died.

When I'm looking for answers, I investigate all over the map. Some of the sources appear valid....until they don't.

There are some pretty reputable and not so reputable sources saying different things...for whatever reasons.

Let's start with the Project Camelot Elenin conference which I recently tapped into. They talk a lot about Elenin and a little about YU55, but I don't even recall any of these which include Richard Hoagland, talking about Nibiru.

One of these sources below, is James Gilliland who has always been, IMO, a reputable source. You can read for yourself what he has to say on a PA thread that Giovanni has going.

Another of these sources is from a thread that Marikins started yesterday. This is a very interesting video series about an Andromedan by the name of Mythi who answers questions on line. According to Mythi, (around the 8-minute mark) Elenin precedes Nibiru which, according to Mythi will cause global havoc.

These events, btw, are coming up Really soon.

When we speak of psyops, how do we define psyops? Just asking.

Up At The Ranch (James Gilliland and Trout Lake)
Greetings,

i sense this will resonate with many who follow this thread...what will be will be...

From James ~

# 6082 Elenin is Nibiru Elenin is Nibiru

"I was in deep meditation and was given two dates. I was told Nibiru is real and
it will be coming in September where its influences will be undeniably felt. I
was also told it is already perturbing the Earth and all the other planets in
the solar system. I was also told after November it will be over. The next thing
they said was a slow moving ship of massive proportions will be here in
November. They are ancient ancestors, extremely evolved beings; which are here
to help. There are many prophecies about this in many indigenous cultures. There
are days of darkness and days of light with many upheavals such as quakes,
volcanoes, and tsunamis. This link just may put all the pieces together and the
science behind this event. I would caution not to get into fear as Baba Ji says
it is time to lovingly and joyously prepare and don't blame the messenger. I
hope I am wrong about this but not saying anything would weigh heavy on my soul.
Lets ask for some major divine intervention on this."

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?3596-Up-At-The-Ranch--James-Gilliland-and-Trout-Lake-&p=181965&highlight=nibiru+elenin#post181965



21º - ANSWERS OF AN ALIEN FROM ANDROMEDA - NIBIRU and EVENTS

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_iiqQyG3qw

[The One]

Source http://beforeitsnews.com/story/857/276/Bad_News_from_NASA:_Proof_That_Comet_Elenin_Is_Affecting_Earth.html

This is going to be the most extraordinary communication so fasten your seatbelts; we are in for a rough ride. I have known in my heart for months that I would have to make a communication like this but had no idea it would be this soon. Back in January, while investigating the underground city that is alleged to have been built under the new Denver Airport, reported on by the former governor Jesse Ventura, I put the puzzle together and came to the conclusion that a planetary event was in store for us in 2012.

Today I am presenting rock solid information; it does not get any better when NASA is your source. What you are about to read and see is happening. Last night, looking at a NASA mathematical model of comet Elenin http://ssd.jpl.nasa.gov/sbdb.cgi?sstr=elenin;orb=1;cov=0;log=0;cad=0#orb, I found out that a large celestial body has already penetrated the solar system and is on course for a near and possibly horrific encounter with the earth in the fall of 2011. What we do not know is the size and mass of comet Elenin though I have no doubt that it is known by the authorities.

Elenin is presently being tracked as it goes through the asteroid belt on its way into the inner solar system. I am truly sorry to have to be the bearer of such grave and threatening news but the source, NASA, is impeccable. We have an incoming mass (what might possibly be a neutron star) coming in and it will do a hard turn around the sun like any comet would, crossing and coming in between Mercury and Venus before starting its journey back out. On its way out it will cross our bow, meaning it will pass very close to the earth and the earth will pass behind it, plowing into its tail.

In the video below you will see this explained graphically. What you will see with mathematical precision is that every time this celestial body comes into alignment with the earth and sun we have a huge earthquake. The last three alignments produced the Japanese 9.0 quake, the one in New Zealand and before that the one in Chile. On March 11th Elenin was much farther out. When the next alignment happens it will be devastatingly close. The main point to understand is that if Elenin was just a normal comet it would not have the mass to generate a gravity pull that would affect the earth when the earth swings around into alignment

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David Morrison, Astrobiology Senior Scientist at NASA, in an official communication on March 1st acknowledged no threat from Elenin. Ten days later Elenin came into alignment with the earth and the sun . . . and Japan was almost destroyed.

Morrison confirmed that Elenin’s perihelion (closest to the sun) is in early September 2011 at a distance from the sun of 40-45 million miles. He said it will be closest to the earth on about October 16, at a distance of about 21 million miles, but he believes there is no reason to think Elenin is any different from a normal comet. I wonder if he changed his mind after March 11th. He dismisses everything alarming as pure fiction.

This is the real deal though—that alignment did happen as we can clearly see from the NASA simulation. Now we have to live with increasing radiation spreading around the northern hemisphere. We know how easy it is for people in authority to cover up information and lie with a straight face. The Japanese government admitted it kept in secret at least 5000 radiation measurements and assessments after the nuclear event that struck the Fukushima Daiichi NPP in March http://www.novinite.com/view_news.php?id=127874. This was done in order to not induce panic in the population, a representative of the staff dealing with the nuclear emergency told ITAR-TASS.

We have to acknowledge and accept that there is a danger and a possibility that part of our civilization and the people in it will be lost. This is not a time to deny anything or a time to hold back the tears. I hope to God I am wrong but the evidence cannot be dismissed casually, though of course it will be. One picture is worth a thousand words and NASA has given us visible proof to suggest Elenin is playing a role in events down here on our planet even from a long distance. It is not a time for fear; rather it is a time for love and cooperation in the context of preparation on all levels for what is to come.

There is a history to Elenin that has been visible for years but now she is upon us and there is nothing we can do but prepare and pray—and love like we have never loved before. We have to acknowledge and accept that there is a danger and there is a possibility that part of our civilization and the people in it will be lost. The below video displays what has been known by NASA for decades

The whole solar system seems to be heating up, the sun is becoming active and earth-changing events are becoming more frequent and intense with beyond-worst-case-scenario climate changes hitting around the globe. We have increasing geo-activity, volcanoes, earthquakes, rogue tides, sinking islands, magnetic pole migration, mass animal deaths, huge unexplained whirlpools in the Atlantic and so much more it would make anyone’s head spin.

We were tipped off to something unusual happening when Greenland experienced sunrise two days early http://www.accuweather.com/blogs/astronomy/story/44335/sunrise-two-days-early-in-greenland.asp, which was a strong sign that something was off with Earth’s orbit. On January 25th I said:

There is a lot of information (except in the mainstream press) about 2012 and the end of the Mayan Calendar that many are obsessing over but there is more than enough in 2011 to worry about and act on. Last week I was knocked off my chair with the report from the Arctic Circle in Greenland that the sun came back over the horizontwo days early. That’s no small occurrence, is not something easy to make up, is not being reported as expected in the mainstream press, and only wild and stupid theories like global warming (since we really have rapid cooling) are being blamed for the event.

Next Few Months

August 3, 2011 marks the time that the earth passes through the brown dwarf perigee position, while the brown dwarf is crossing the earth orbit location. About two weeks pass and on August 18 the brown dwarf crosses the Venus orbit some 67 million miles from the sun. Then 24 days pass to when the brown dwarf reaches the nearest point to the sun at 44.73 million miles. September 25, 2011 marks the time that the earth passes through the second conjunction with the sun, brown dwarf, Mercury, Saturn and Uranus in line for another gravitational alignment.

This video from the top of a mountain in Japan seems to have caught Elenin on camera.

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October 2 is the day that the brown dwarf crosses Venus’ orbit again to begin trekking in the direction of earth. Two weeks go by and the brown dwarf crosses the earth orbit line to pass directly in front of our planet at just 22.3 million miles away, which is the nearest point in our encounter. The brown dwarf crosses the Mars orbit line on November 14, 2011 on the way to thethird conjunction on November 22 where the earth once again passes directly between the two like on March 15.

Conclusion

An approaching brown dwarf star answers a lot of questions about what is happening all around us that others simply cannot begin to answer. No one really knows what will happen in the fall of this year as this incoming celestial body gets between us and the sun and then rebounds out again and heading directly into earth’s neighborhood. One person has speculated that it could rip our moon loose. It could hit us if its flight plan is changed by hitting an asteroid in the next few days. That could be possible if it really were a comet, but if it is a neutron star with a large mass, nothing will deflect its ordained path.

If we are lucky, nothing will happen but humanity is not looking or feeling lucky these days.

What seems likely is what most of the ancient cultures and religions remember—huge floods that pass the world over. The only way the world can have a global flood is if there is some event like an asteroid impact, polar shift, or a very dense object passing close by earth that causes a massive tsunami tide. The gravitational pull would grab the water and pull it over the land on a massive scale, much like the moon does today on a smaller scale in the form of tides.

Safe Zones:
1. Move 150+ miles from the coasts.
2. Move 600 feet above sea level.
3. Move away from volcanoes and super volcanoes like Yellowstone in northwestern USA.
4. Move away from earthquake/seismic/avalanche/fault zones like the New Madrid Fault Zone in central USA.
5. Move away from dams that will break.
6. Move away from nuclear power plants that could become compromised.
7. Move away from high elevations where radiation levels will be highest.
8. Move away from large population areas where food riots will escalate into chaos and mayhem.
9. Join into survival groups with people of like mind that have survival supplies, gear and guns to protect them.

There is no shortage of flood legends http://rabbithole2.com/presentation/mythology/over_600_flood_myths_from_around_world.htm. The earliest extant flood legend is contained in the fragmentary Sumerian Eridu Genesis, datable by its script to the 17th century BCE. In the Babylonian Epic of Gilgamesh there are references to the Great Flood (tablet 11). The best-known version of the Jewish deluge legend is contained in the Book of Genesis (Genesis 6-9). God selects Noah, a man who “found favor in the eyes of the Lord” and commands him to build an ark to save Noah, his family, and the earth’s animals and birds. After Noah builds the ark, “All the fountains of the great deep burst open, and the floodgates of the sky were opened.”

There are many sources of flood legends in ancient Chinese literature. The Shujing, or “Book of History,” probably written around 500 BCE or earlier, states in the opening chapters that Emperor Yao is facing the problem of flood waters that “reach to the heavens.” According to the Australian aborigines the water covered the land. Only the highest mountain peaks were visible, like islands in the sea.

Dr. Mark Sircus is a natural health expert and self-sufficiency advocate. He is the author ofseveral must-read books including titles such as Survival Medicine For the 21st Century,Winning the War on Cancer, and Humane Pediatrics. You can find all of Mark's informative articles at his website

[Humble Janitor]

This is from NASA...Never A Straight Answer!!!!

I can't deal with this. Sept 25th is my birthday.

This is too much.

[pharoah21]

It's hard to tell when anything will happen, if anything will happen, there are unlimited variables with these predictions.

I think it's best if we all just find peace with ourselves, and be content with today, more so than being expectant of tomorrow.

Enjoy now.

[The One]

This is from NASA...Never A Straight Answer!!!!

I can't deal with this. Sept 25th is my birthday.

This is too much.

Dont worry to much Humble Janitor i put this in the conspiracy research section,i am on the fence with this my friend.You are right though Never A Straight Answer.

I am just going to go with the flow

[Hervé]

So much confusion added to the soup of muddy waters...

If there were such a body within the solar system, there wouldn't be any solar system anymore!

Who the hell is this Circus guy!?

[Humble Janitor]

Should have read more carefully.

Sorcha Faal.....Sucha Fool.

Oh why do I allow myself to become worked up by such nonsense?

Honestly, I have no idea what we're in for and I'm quietly working on wrapping up loose ends for the next several months.

[Operator]

Source http://beforeitsnews.com/story/857/276/Bad_News_from_NASA:_Proof_That_Comet_Elenin_Is_Affecting_Earth.html

This is going to be the most extraordinary communication so fasten your seatbelts; we are in for a rough ride. I have known in my heart for months that I would have to make a communication like this but had no idea it would be this soon. Back in January, while investigating the underground city that is alleged to have been built under the new Denver Airport, reported on by the former governor Jesse Ventura, I put the puzzle together and came to the conclusion that a planetary event was in store for us in 2012.

Today I am presenting rock solid information; it does not get any better when NASA is your source. What you are about to read and see is happening. Last night, looking at a NASA mathematical model of comet Elenin http://ssd.jpl.nasa.gov/sbdb.cgi?sstr=elenin;orb=1;cov=0;log=0;cad=0#orb, I found out that a large celestial body has already penetrated the solar system and is on course for a near and possibly horrific encounter with the earth in the fall of 2011. What we do not know is the size and mass of comet Elenin though I have no doubt that it is known by the authorities.

Elenin is presently being tracked as it goes through the asteroid belt on its way into the inner solar system. I am truly sorry to have to be the bearer of such grave and threatening news but the source, NASA, is impeccable. We have an incoming mass (what might possibly be a neutron star) coming in and it will do a hard turn around the sun like any comet would, crossing and coming in between Mercury and Venus before starting its journey back out. On its way out it will cross our bow, meaning it will pass very close to the earth and the earth will pass behind it, plowing into its tail.

In the video below you will see this explained graphically. What you will see with mathematical precision is that every time this celestial body comes into alignment with the earth and sun we have a huge earthquake. The last three alignments produced the Japanese 9.0 quake, the one in New Zealand and before that the one in Chile. On March 11th Elenin was much farther out. When the next alignment happens it will be devastatingly close. The main point to understand is that if Elenin was just a normal comet it would not have the mass to generate a gravity pull that would affect the earth when the earth swings around into alignment

0Bv1rQxgMbA

David Morrison, Astrobiology Senior Scientist at NASA, in an official communication on March 1st acknowledged no threat from Elenin. Ten days later Elenin came into alignment with the earth and the sun . . . and Japan was almost destroyed.

Morrison confirmed that Elenin’s perihelion (closest to the sun) is in early September 2011 at a distance from the sun of 40-45 million miles. He said it will be closest to the earth on about October 16, at a distance of about 21 million miles, but he believes there is no reason to think Elenin is any different from a normal comet. I wonder if he changed his mind after March 11th. He dismisses everything alarming as pure fiction.

This is the real deal though—that alignment did happen as we can clearly see from the NASA simulation. Now we have to live with increasing radiation spreading around the northern hemisphere. We know how easy it is for people in authority to cover up information and lie with a straight face. The Japanese government admitted it kept in secret at least 5000 radiation measurements and assessments after the nuclear event that struck the Fukushima Daiichi NPP in March http://www.novinite.com/view_news.php?id=127874. This was done in order to not induce panic in the population, a representative of the staff dealing with the nuclear emergency told ITAR-TASS.

We have to acknowledge and accept that there is a danger and a possibility that part of our civilization and the people in it will be lost. This is not a time to deny anything or a time to hold back the tears. I hope to God I am wrong but the evidence cannot be dismissed casually, though of course it will be. One picture is worth a thousand words and NASA has given us visible proof to suggest Elenin is playing a role in events down here on our planet even from a long distance. It is not a time for fear; rather it is a time for love and cooperation in the context of preparation on all levels for what is to come.

There is a history to Elenin that has been visible for years but now she is upon us and there is nothing we can do but prepare and pray—and love like we have never loved before. We have to acknowledge and accept that there is a danger and there is a possibility that part of our civilization and the people in it will be lost. The below video displays what has been known by NASA for decades

The whole solar system seems to be heating up, the sun is becoming active and earth-changing events are becoming more frequent and intense with beyond-worst-case-scenario climate changes hitting around the globe. We have increasing geo-activity, volcanoes, earthquakes, rogue tides, sinking islands, magnetic pole migration, mass animal deaths, huge unexplained whirlpools in the Atlantic and so much more it would make anyone’s head spin.

We were tipped off to something unusual happening when Greenland experienced sunrise two days early http://www.accuweather.com/blogs/astronomy/story/44335/sunrise-two-days-early-in-greenland.asp, which was a strong sign that something was off with Earth’s orbit. On January 25th I said:

There is a lot of information (except in the mainstream press) about 2012 and the end of the Mayan Calendar that many are obsessing over but there is more than enough in 2011 to worry about and act on. Last week I was knocked off my chair with the report from the Arctic Circle in Greenland that the sun came back over the horizontwo days early. That’s no small occurrence, is not something easy to make up, is not being reported as expected in the mainstream press, and only wild and stupid theories like global warming (since we really have rapid cooling) are being blamed for the event.

Next Few Months

August 3, 2011 marks the time that the earth passes through the brown dwarf perigee position, while the brown dwarf is crossing the earth orbit location. About two weeks pass and on August 18 the brown dwarf crosses the Venus orbit some 67 million miles from the sun. Then 24 days pass to when the brown dwarf reaches the nearest point to the sun at 44.73 million miles. September 25, 2011 marks the time that the earth passes through the second conjunction with the sun, brown dwarf, Mercury, Saturn and Uranus in line for another gravitational alignment.

This video from the top of a mountain in Japan seems to have caught Elenin on camera.

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October 2 is the day that the brown dwarf crosses Venus’ orbit again to begin trekking in the direction of earth. Two weeks go by and the brown dwarf crosses the earth orbit line to pass directly in front of our planet at just 22.3 million miles away, which is the nearest point in our encounter. The brown dwarf crosses the Mars orbit line on November 14, 2011 on the way to thethird conjunction on November 22 where the earth once again passes directly between the two like on March 15.

Conclusion

An approaching brown dwarf star answers a lot of questions about what is happening all around us that others simply cannot begin to answer. No one really knows what will happen in the fall of this year as this incoming celestial body gets between us and the sun and then rebounds out again and heading directly into earth’s neighborhood. One person has speculated that it could rip our moon loose. It could hit us if its flight plan is changed by hitting an asteroid in the next few days. That could be possible if it really were a comet, but if it is a neutron star with a large mass, nothing will deflect its ordained path.

If we are lucky, nothing will happen but humanity is not looking or feeling lucky these days.

What seems likely is what most of the ancient cultures and religions remember—huge floods that pass the world over. The only way the world can have a global flood is if there is some event like an asteroid impact, polar shift, or a very dense object passing close by earth that causes a massive tsunami tide. The gravitational pull would grab the water and pull it over the land on a massive scale, much like the moon does today on a smaller scale in the form of tides.

Safe Zones:
1. Move 150+ miles from the coasts.
2. Move 600 feet above sea level.
3. Move away from volcanoes and super volcanoes like Yellowstone in northwestern USA.
4. Move away from earthquake/seismic/avalanche/fault zones like the New Madrid Fault Zone in central USA.
5. Move away from dams that will break.
6. Move away from nuclear power plants that could become compromised.
7. Move away from high elevations where radiation levels will be highest.
8. Move away from large population areas where food riots will escalate into chaos and mayhem.
9. Join into survival groups with people of like mind that have survival supplies, gear and guns to protect them.

There is no shortage of flood legends http://rabbithole2.com/presentation/mythology/over_600_flood_myths_from_around_world.htm. The earliest extant flood legend is contained in the fragmentary Sumerian Eridu Genesis, datable by its script to the 17th century BCE. In the Babylonian Epic of Gilgamesh there are references to the Great Flood (tablet 11). The best-known version of the Jewish deluge legend is contained in the Book of Genesis (Genesis 6-9). God selects Noah, a man who “found favor in the eyes of the Lord” and commands him to build an ark to save Noah, his family, and the earth’s animals and birds. After Noah builds the ark, “All the fountains of the great deep burst open, and the floodgates of the sky were opened.”

There are many sources of flood legends in ancient Chinese literature. The Shujing, or “Book of History,” probably written around 500 BCE or earlier, states in the opening chapters that Emperor Yao is facing the problem of flood waters that “reach to the heavens.” According to the Australian aborigines the water covered the land. Only the highest mountain peaks were visible, like islands in the sea.

Dr. Mark Sircus is a natural health expert and self-sufficiency advocate. He is the author ofseveral must-read books including titles such as Survival Medicine For the 21st Century,Winning the War on Cancer, and Humane Pediatrics. You can find all of Mark's informative articles at his website

The article is timestamped: Sun Jul 24 2011 17:11

But I've seen this heading already weeks ago ... this is just a perpetuation of a 'wave' ... it made it only less reliable, not more.

[Humble Janitor]

I'm tired of FULLA **** and his nonsense.

What happens, will happen.

If I'm not mistaken, each and every one of us will be ready in our own way.

I don't know what I'm going to do.

But I know how much effort I'm going to put in it.

[Hervé]

Should have read more carefully.

Sorcha Faal.....Sucha Fool.

Oh why do I allow myself to become worked up by such nonsense?

Honestly, I have no idea what we're in for and I'm quietly working on wrapping up loose ends for the next several months.

Now, THAT makes sense as to why it's complete nonsense!

[daledo]

This is from NASA...Never A Straight Answer!!!!

I can't deal with this. Sept 25th is my birthday.

This is too much.

Mine is on oct. 16th... I will see how your birthday is before mine. Uggg

[The Truth Is In There]

i'm posting this again in a new thread because i think it's an important theory of what could happen in september and it shouldn't be missed by anyone.

check out the following. this article blew me away to say the least because it connects a lot of dots and explains stuff that didn't make sense before (like how can a comet cause earthquakes or that recent storm on saturn).

what's even more strange is that it fits the bible prophecy of the rapture. i've never given much credence to accurateness where prophecies are concerned but i've changed my mind after i watched some of the youtube clips where people explained that the planetary alignments of sep 29th are 100% identical to the ones described in rev 12.1 (written/predicted hundreds of years ago)

if you also take into account other prophecies (three days of darkness etc.), the closeness to the end of the mayan calendar according to calleman (28.10.2011), what people such as george kavassilas say about portals opening and what we know about ascension and the influence of electromagnetism on consciousness and dna it looks like elenin will be the reason why all this might very well happen just two months hence.

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source: http://endgametime.wordpress.com/com...heir-be-light/
- go to the website to view the article incl. images

Elenin is a very dangerous cosmic object. Sometimes we need to watch what an object does as well as watching the object while looking for clues. Elenin is not visible to the naked eye, but does appear to have an EM effect on our solar system at distances of 14+ AUs. Elenin is also dangerous because it is a long period (10000+ years) comet whose tail the Earth passes through. Comets are not balls of ice and dust like Nasa states. Nasa will not release this information because there is absolutely nothing anyone can do about it except panic. Sit back and enjoy the ride and be thankful to be alive in this time to bear witness to this event.

A capacitor is a device for storing electric charge. Comets are electric cosmic capacitors that gather and store energy as they pass through space. Comets are electromagnetically connected to the sun and planets by EM ropes (JPL, 2005). Extreme EM fields can cause earthquakes. Elenin’s line up position with the Earth and sun correlates Earth seismicity. This is what HAARP research is based upon. EM energy lubricates fault lines and can cause fault slippage. The reason Elenin is causing quakes when other comets do not is because Elenin has been in deep space a long time gathering electrons and storing energy for discharging to the sun at perigee.

The EM field that results from the storage of such a large amount of electricity is connected to the Earth and influences geological activities as well as weather and more. A comets positively charged metallic core is ideal for storing and attracting electrons. Comets pick up electrons as they fly through space because the electrons are attracted to the metallic comet nucleus. The larger the comet and longer the comet travels through space without discharging, the more electricity is stored in the comet. When the comet approaches the sun, it begins to glow because the electron cloud is energized by the sun’s proton wind. The hydrogen protons combine with the oxygen in the solar wind to produce water in the comet’s tail; which is comprised of visible photons (coma) generated by the comet’s electric circuit. The sun provides the positive charge and the stored electrons provide the negative charge to complete the electrical circuit with the sun.

The metal comet nucleus behaves similar to the filament on a lightbulb. When positive and negative wires are attached, the filament of a lightbulb produces a photon glow. The intensity of photon emission is proportional to the amount of current applied to the circuit. Comets do the same thing when the comet encounters the solar wind. Comets glow proportional to the amount of protons and electrons interacting within the circuit. On occasion a comet will release its stored energy in a burst of photons when the EM ropes provide a surge in protons. The luminosity can increase by million of times when the comet discharges its capacitance to the sun. Most don’t have enough charge or do not get close enough to the sun to explosively discharge their energy and just pass through the solar system gathering energy for the next opportunity to erupt.

The infrared signature for comet Elenin suggests the electrical charge Elenin is carrying is so large that when the comet dumps its capacitance, the resulting photon flare up will engulf the Earth as the Earth passes through the tail. The evidence is in Nasa’s google sky infrared image of Elenin. When Elenin was 14 AUs away on June 14, 2007, Nasa photographed the comet when they took the infrared image for google sky. The infrared image indicates Elenin’s infrared electrical signature is 17 million miles across with xray jets extending over 100 million miles from Elenin. Elenin will pass the Earth at 21 million miles. When Elenin flares and dumps its electron load (electricity) to the sun, the photon flash will be so great that it will instantly turn everything on the Earth’s surface into light. Don’t worry though. There is a lot more action before we evaporate.

Elenin’s enormous EM field produced from its electron pillaging throughout deep space should cause earthquakes with magnitudes of 10 or greater so that the Earth will ring with seismicity prior to photon bombardment. As you can see, Elenin is quite different than any other object ever encountered and publicly acknowledged by Nasa. There is no other object in space that humans have identified that has an electric signature like Elenin. This is why the governments of the world are building bunkers deep within the Earth. This is why the seed vault was built in Greenland. This is why the US government is spending like there is no tomorrow. This is why our weather is changing now. This is why we have civil unrest around the world. If you are still not convinced.

Take a look at this evidence.

Look at the circles. The bluegreen circles represent the orbits of the planets in our solar system. The red dot in each orbit is the location of a planet. The red dot in the center is the sun. The first circle is Mercury’s orbit. The second is Venus. The third is Earth. Notice the moon circling Earth and its position. This is important. Note the next circle. This represents a planet with five moons. This planet no longer exists. The asteroid belt is located there now. The final circle is Jupiter. Note the position of Jupiter. The red circle is the orbit of a long period object like a comet. Note the object and its tail.

What does this mean? This arrangement points to a specific point in time. There is only one short period in time that our planets in our solar system line up in this configuration. This drawing signifies a specific date. To determine what date this drawing represents, I used the Jet Propulsion laboratories ELENIN ORBITAL DIAGRAM. This diagram shows the location of all our planets and comet ELENIN. If one uses the controls on the model and moves the model forward in time to 9/26/11, the following diagram results.

Look at the position of each planet. Each planet matches the location of the same planet on the 10 Franc Bill. Mercury is in the same location. Venus matches the location on the bill. Mars is at the 12 o’clock position and matches the drawing. Jupiter is in the 2 o’clock position and matches the bill. I looked up the moon’s position on 9/26/11.

CONCLUSION: The drawing by Leonhard Euller constructed over 230 years ago signifies an event occurring on September 26, 2011 that is so significant that the date has been placed on currency and no one can be told about it. The only people who know are the descendants of the Illuminati who have placed these hints in perfect clear view to give their people the chance for survival. Still not satisfied? Do you still believe in staggering coincidence.

IF you are not sold that this is the real deal. Keep on reading.

This is the new 10 swiss franc. See the polarized light waves of all frequencies?

See the waves of light propagating across the page from high to low frequency. The light appears polarized and includes all wavelengths. This is what ELE brings us, high intensity polarized light that is out of phase with our space-time dimension. The blue wave represents the light of all wavelengths in phase with the earth. The red wave represents light from ELE. The light from ELE is about 30 degrees out of phase as shown on the bill. Matter 30 degrees out of phase is not visible in our space-time dimension. Only matter vibrating at the same frequency can occupy space in our perception of the universe.

Now look at the person in the window. This presents a person between worlds, not specifically in either one at this time.

Did you see the comet on this bill? I bet you overlooked it. It is very subtle. Look to the immediate left of the point where the light waves begin. There is an orange and yellow asteroid looking figure. The orange dots represent photons being emitted from the object. One is expanded into the light wave drawing to indicate what these dots represent. The light waves start close to the edge of the comet.

Now lets take a look at the 50. Note the red and blue broken circular lines. These lines represent broken chromosomes. The out of phase energy reboots the body by tearing down the DNA and restructuring.

Take a look at the 100.

The white human appears to mutate into a 10 feet tall alien that resembles the creatures from the movie CLose Encounters of the Third Kind. These are us as we ascend into timespace, not space-time.

Now take a look at the 200 franc. Can you see the object streaking through the sky where the 200 is located. The object plunges into the ocean and makes huge waves that destroy the cities’ sky scrapers. This happens when the earth passes through the wake of the ELE in November.

Now the finale. The 1000 franc bill.

Turn the bill so you can read the 1000. Note the God like figure looking down on the new Earth. Notice the pairs of chromosomes that have been straightened out and are no longer broken.

Now if this evidence isn’t good enough for you to acknowledge, then there is probably no evidence short of the actual event that will convince you.

VIA CON DIOS.

GOD is light. You are light. See you very, very soon.

(first published July 1, 2011)

Edit added July 23, 2011

There is a lot more. Here is what ELEnin has been doing to Saturn on its approach. These electrical storms produce lightening bolts that are 10,000 times as strong as the strongest bolts of lightening on earth.

Here is the link to the article. Nasa has some info on this, and there are others. This storm has been kept really quiet and not many seem to connect the dots.. but here it is.

http://www.universetoday.com/87269/t...s-super-storm/

You can see the electrical storms in this photo. These are the contact points for the EM ropes that connect to the planet. We can’t see the EM ropes…. yet, but if you go to SOHO you can see the EM ropes coming off of venus on the left hand side of the their photo directly into the sun. I will try to get these out tomorrow.

Take a look at Saturn. Hundreds of earths will fit inside this storm. It’s a monster. It happens every year on saturn which is about 30 earth years. However, its not supposed to be happening now. Its over 10 years early and very unexpected. This is like having a hurricane in January in the Gulf of Mexico. It doesn’t happen.

There’s more….but you will have to wait until I can present it to you. In the mean time look up “time cloak” and review the article by MIT that came out a few days ago on google and ask yourself, where does the particle go when it is time cloaked?

Here’s the link.

http://www.technologyreview.com/blog/arxiv/26992/

Remember, to be in our universe, an object must have an x,y,z coordinate and a time. Without these, the object does not exist in our perception of reality and our senses can’t observe it.

If Elenin’s EM field creates a time cloak for the earth similar to how the physicist in this article time cloak a quantum particle, where does the earth go? It can’t be in space-time.

Could it go to the same place that quantum particles appear to reside…….called superposition? Where space-time is inverted. The second dimension of time. What is that you ask? What is the second dimension of time? It’s the real reality, the non-material world. The place that existed before our universe.

Quantum particles are EM energy. As such, these particles have large EM signatures/mass. The EM field places the quantum particle in superposition. ELE could theoretically do the same thing if the charge/mass ratio is similar to that of certain quantum particles.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superposition

And right when CERN is about to discover the God particle.

http://www.redorbit.com/news/science..._god_particle/

Makes me go hmmm.

Also, the last alignment for ELEnin, earth, and sun is……..wait for it….. December 21, 2012. This is ELEnin’s final earthquake alignment day. After this, no more ELEnin for thousands of years. This date doesn’t mark the end, but a new beginning after the EVENT. Life in superposition. Here is the link to the JPL Orbital Diagram. You can play with it and advance it to any date you desire.

http://ssd.jpl.nasa.gov/sbdb.cgi?sst...og=0;cad=1#orb

[Eric J (Viking)]

Hi Truth...yes I picked up this story here>>>>

If it has been de-bunked I would like to see some links please...

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?25958-Elenin-here-on-the-9-26-11

viking

[Eric J (Viking)]

Mmmm that September date pops up again...

Watch till the end...some interesting facts!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-OD1FZ7293E

viking

[<8>]

Sorry i dont belive in this any more. I think it is a fear thing, and if there was somthing passing us by.
I am 100% sure the goverments around the world are gonna use there haarp things to make us feel we are about to die.

Sorry OldWorldOrder....I am going under wid a smile if i have to!

[Teresa]

Don't know if the writer of that article is onto something or not, but I do find the pictures on the banknotes pretty interesting. Wonder if the Swiss people themselves have been told of their meaning, especially that 100 Franc note.

[dourpil]

This thread relates to the earthquake in Japan. I read somewhere in this forum that the earthquake was maybe intentionally provoked (or maybe I misread or misunderstood), and that it was actually too weak to make the tsunami that hit the coasts. It was on the website of an independant journalist who claimed that the damage caused by the earthquake should have been more important than it actually was. I don't remember if it said that only the tsunami was "man made", but it surely said that the earthquake was not so strong than we were told.

[Floor]

Why would they want to make us feel we are going to die?
What is the benefit of that?

If I try to tell people about these subjects, they usually think I lost it. I find it almost impossible to reach people.
So the effect of that "making us feel we are going to die", is not so effective.

When they do not have benefits of it... perhaps there really is something going on..

I do believe they use Haarp and so on. I also see the chemtrails en other weather-modification signs and feelings. But for me: this only tells me they are manipulating. But why?

For me it is still possible there is something serious in the coincidences around Elenin.
And I do not use these to be afraid and think we all are going to die, but I use this to prepare.
And what is the benefit of that for them :)

[goldmother]

Do you know what we all agreed to be here on this planet at this time and if we couldn't handle it we wouldn't be here, so there seems little point in stressing about being in the right place or having the right things packed and ready, just know in your hearts you will be were you are supposed to be love is all there is any way, all is as it should be never forget we are eternal beings

:luv:

[Floor]

Do you know what we all agreed to be here on this planet at this time and if we couldn't handle it we wouldn't be here, so there seems little point in stressing about being in the right place or having the right things packed and ready, just know in your hearts you will be were you are supposed to be love is all there is any way, all is as it should be never forget we are eternal beings

:luv:

Of course we are eternal beings. Is everyone where he is supposed to be? Love is all there is, but if you were in Japan, for instance near Fukushima, I wonder if that love is easy to dwell on. If they were there "supposed to be"...
And does everyone listen to his soul? Do we learn to listen to our soul? If you listen to your soul, ok then you can say in a way you are were you are supposed to be. Especially when you feel that in your heart :)

My soul maked me move away from our cost, this year. And we felt the "go away" signals before we knew anything about Elenin and so on. And I feel the urge to store food and water and such since last autumn. So we are doing that. Cannot harm anything when it appears we did it for no reason. But the other way round..we wil be very happy with it!

[goldmother]

Do you know what we all agreed to be here on this planet at this time and if we couldn't handle it we wouldn't be here, so there seems little point in stressing about being in the right place or having the right things packed and ready, just know in your hearts you will be were you are supposed to be love is all there is any way, all is as it should be never forget we are eternal beings


:luv:

Of course we are eternal beings. Is everyone where he is supposed to be? Love is all there is, but if you were in Japan, for instance near Fukushima, I wonder if that love is easy to dwell on. If they were there "supposed to be"...
And does everyone listen to his soul? Do we learn to listen to our soul? If you listen to your soul, ok then you can say in a way you are were you are supposed to be. Especially when you feel that in your heart :)

My soul maked me move away from our cost, this year. And we felt the "go away" signals before we knew anything about Elenin and so on. And I feel the urge to store food and water and such since last autumn. So we are doing that. Cannot harm anything when it appears we did it for no reason. But the other way round..we wil be very happy with it!

None of us knows the life lessons another being has chosen to experience when they chose to be here at this time, and yes being in Japan right now would take extreme faith and courage and I am humbled by those souls for they are more courageous than I

:grouphug:

[Bryn ap Gwilym]

Could it be nothing more than scaremongering with a huge dollop of New Age? After all, New Age is the product of the establishment.

It wouldn't be the first time that NASA or any govt has lied to the people to create fear.

[Snowbird]

Snowbird - Another of these sources is from a thread that Marikins started yesterday. This is a very interesting video series about an Andromedan by the name of Mythi who answers questions on line. According to Mythi, (around the 8-minute mark) Elenin precedes Nibiru which, according to Mythi will cause global havoc.

I'm quoting myself above, because I have gone further into these Q&A videos and have learned a bit more about Nibiru and Elenin.

Most people will automatically ditch information of this type. Many would probably call it psyop. I'm not claiming that this is truth or otherwise at this point because this type of information is impossible to verify. All I can do is watch and wait. A lot of the answers to the questions asked, appear to be genuine. This Mythi doesn't at all support the governments and in particular, the U.S. government.

I am merely a messenger.

What I wanted to point out, is that in communications 29 and 30, Mythi talks about the possibility of a huge community called the Krulians who have been doing research on the Sun. Mythi says that these Krulians comprise a societal space crew of 80 million and their ship is simply mammoth beyond belief. It is said that they will reduce the speed of Nibiru, put it in the correct orbit and accelerate it again. In section 40, Mythi states that Elenin is a small dwarf star and in section 32, there is the possibility that two Pleiadian ships will try an emergency operation to destroy it. If they can't, satellites will be permanently lost. It is said that Elenin's interaction of gravity can move oceans and tectonic plates.

[toothpick]

The problem for me is that I don,t believe NASA is telling us the truth.
They have a reputation of not always being honest with thier very expensive information.
It,s hard to fathom just how much, publicly funded information, they are withholding from us .

toothpick

[The One]

None of us knows the life lessons another being has chosen to experience when they chose to be here at this time, and yes being in Japan right now would take extreme faith and courage and I am humbled by those souls for they are more courageous than I

More courageous than me any day.

What i don’t get is this reincarnation thing, why would you want to be reincarnated on this planet time and time again. With all the suffering famine etc etc why on earth would you want to reincarnate onto this planet, Totally off topic but are we forced to keep living on this planet time and time again or do we move onto better things. If so great

[JDM]

Before its news is not a very credible source of information.

It just looks like the same old conspiracies thats been going around for some time now. Just repackaged and sold as new information. It creates hype and interest for those wanting to read and believe it, like a good thriller or sci-fi novel.

No doubt that celestial bodies in our solar system do effect earth, but I think some have just blown this whole thing way out of proportion.

[Ian Gordon]

Before its news is not a very credible source of information.

It just looks like the same old conspiracies thats been going around for some time now. Just repackaged and sold as new information. It creates hype and interest for those wanting to read and believe it, like a good thriller or sci-fi novel.

No doubt that celestial bodies in our solar system do effect earth, but I think some have just blown this whole thing way out of proportion.

Totally agree, to a lot of the ancient people comets etc were messengers and indications of forthcoming events as such I dont expect the comet Elenin to be anything else but a sign.
The fact there will be two comets and a visiting Asteriod however is more interesting, a sign imho of incomming change. The interesting point (and I believe a Mayan belief please correct me if I am wrong) will be the alignment of the sun and Earth to the centre of the milky way/Galaxy.
I appreciate this doesnt explain alignment of Elenin and the Earthquakes but I am not convienced of the facts of that as the sole cause, maybe a contributing factor, but many forces we dont understand are at play.

[dddanieljjjamesss]

Ugh.
Even if something cosmic is happening, (which it always is, only now it may be more directly related to our current way of life on Earth)
the thing that is going to save Earth from a COSMIC phenomena is to accelerate the awareness of the humans to collectively steer the Earth's energy away from negative outcomes

remember everything in the universe is precisely coordinated, if something 'nibiru'-esque is happening, it has been happening to us this entire time whether we noticed it or not, we were always under the effect of the energy of everything else around us... so if we learn to turn on and receive this energy we can protect our beautiful planet!

[Heather2017]

...What i don’t get is this reincarnation thing, why would you want to be reincarnated on this planet time and time again. With all the suffering famine etc etc why on earth would you want to reincarnate onto this planet, Totally off topic but are we forced to keep living on this planet time and time again or do we move onto better things. If so great

Perhaps we've been trapped in reincarnation cycles by higher-dimensional beings who use us for various purposes, and now we have an opportunity to end this enslavement.

Clearly major changes are happening, and each us has to follow his/her unique soul path. For some it means staying where they are. For others it means relocating.

I agree "it is not a time for fear; rather it is a time for love and cooperation in the context of preparation on all levels for what is to come."

Personally I resonate with what Lisa Renee, George Kavassilas and Inelia Benz have to say (among others). They emphasize the value of the human soul and using our unique talents and energies to raise the planet's vibration.

Of course our bodies fear pain and destruction as they were designed to do. But we can move beyond the fear, recognize the eternal nature of our true selves and work toward something greater than physical survival.

[The One]

Before its news is not a very credible source of information.

It just looks like the same old conspiracies thats been going around for some time now. Just repackaged and sold as new information. It creates hype and interest for those wanting to read and believe it, like a good thriller or sci-fi novel.

No doubt that celestial bodies in our solar system do effect earth, but I think some have just blown this whole thing way out of proportion.


Before its news is not a very credible source of information

Even though a lot of the stuff on beforeitsnews is bollocks some of the stuff does go on before it becomes news mmmmmmm thats why it must be called before its news lol.Thats why this post is in the conspiracy section and not general

Welcome back JDM

[rufus7]

shh it's okay

[The One]

shh it's okay

rufus rufus rufus7 mmmmmmmmmmmm

Your welcome

[Eric J (Viking)]

Please take note not all the info here is from the Sorcha site ... !

In my opinion we have something huge heading this way...its up to you what you call it, but its coming.

We have had many disasters in the past as stated by 'The Rabbit Hole' and various other outlets which would appear to be cyclical ... thats not to say that I believe we will be experiencing the same magnitude as has happened in the past. But, we will experience more upheavals on planet Earth as well as great things of huge significance for evolvement of mankind.

viking

[jsb_swampfox]

I just listen to this guy. It is a radio interview. I have no idea who this guy is. I would like to find out. What he has to say doesn't sound good.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=icLM3W2xzvg&feature=feedf

[ghostrider]

Before its news is not a very credible source of information.

It just looks like the same old conspiracies thats been going around for some time now. Just repackaged and sold as new information. It creates hype and interest for those wanting to read and believe it, like a good thriller or sci-fi novel.

No doubt that celestial bodies in our solar system do effect earth, but I think some have just blown this whole thing way out of proportion.

tell that to the dinosaurs- tell that to noah- tell that to the ice age victms- tell that to the sumerians- tell that to the myans- tell that to the annunaki who foretold it would happen again and again- tell that to the pleadians who told of the destroyer comet to billy meir- why is the moon tilted? why is the earth tilted? why is the entire solar system heating up? could it be another sun in our solar system? nibiru/elenin/planet x/ give it any name you want. whats that large object on the soho site? whats that large second sun rising at night in the south pole? the sun rises in the north east and set in the north west- something is tipping earth over-- blown out of proportion? it's even biblical told in revelations. how much more does an awake mind need? nsa moved it's headquarters to utah/ mountains. cia moved it's headquarters to denver mountains- alot of retired military are moving to the ozark mountains. they know- a great flood is coming...... over 30 countries are involved in over 70 bases in antartica since the 50's to view the approach of nibiru... blown out of proportion? nothing else on the planet matters..but where is it and how close will it pass this time...... hence the term planet of the crossing......

[The One]

before its news is not a very credible source of information.

It just looks like the same old conspiracies thats been going around for some time now. Just repackaged and sold as new information. It creates hype and interest for those wanting to read and believe it, like a good thriller or sci-fi novel.

No doubt that celestial bodies in our solar system do effect earth, but i think some have just blown this whole thing way out of proportion.

tell that to the dinosaurs- tell that to noah- tell that to the ice age victms- tell that to the sumerians- tell that to the myans- tell that to the annunaki who foretold it would happen again and again- tell that to the pleadians who told of the destroyer comet to billy meir- why is the moon tilted? Why is the earth tilted? Why is the entire solar system heating up? Could it be another sun in our solar system? Nibiru/elenin/planet x/ give it any name you want. Whats that large object on the soho site? Whats that large second sun rising at night in the south pole? The sun rises in the north east and set in the north west- something is tipping earth over-- blown out of proportion? It's even biblical told in revelations. How much more does an awake mind need? Nsa moved it's headquarters to utah/ mountains. Cia moved it's headquarters to denver mountains- alot of retired military are moving to the ozark mountains. They know- a great flood is coming...... Over 30 countries are involved in over 70 bases in antartica since the 50's to view the approach of nibiru... Blown out of proportion? Nothing else on the planet matters..but where is it and how close will it pass this time...... Hence the term planet of the crossing......

spot on my friend

[Anno]

I recently finished reading The Devil's Party by Colin Wilson. It's a study of messiah/guru/cult leaders. When you look back in time, there have always been prophets of doom saying the world will end next week. It doesn't matter how far back you go. The Abrahamic religions are an apocalyptic cult, waiting for the day of judgement. And yet we're still here.

I think it's good to get some perspective because sometimes we get sucked in to thinking we're in this exciting awesome time but it's just not true. The only difference is that we have the internet so people can speak to the world so it all seems so much more... ...intense?

I can't be doing with doom and gloom.

And that article is very slyly written. The early part bigs up NASA twice even though most of us know that's like taking history advice from the Smithsonian and he goes on at the end to start refering to Elenin as the dwarf star like it's accepted fact.

The guy makes money from the survivalist market. It's nothing but propoganda.

I can't wait til 2013 when all this nonesense will be over. Ofcourse, then some new people will come up with some other reason for us to buy gold and seeds and dvds and whatnot.

[The One]

I can't wait til 2013 when all this nonesense will be over. Ofcourse, then some new people will come up with some other reason for us to buy gold and seeds and dvds and whatnot.

And thats why Anno this is in the conspiracy Research thread

[Anno]

And thats why Anno this is in the conspiracy Research thread

I'm one of those lazy types that just looks at today's posts and searches for specific data when I need it. I like your threads though so I tend to check them all out.

[crosby]

jsb, is there a follow up video to the one you posted that continues? if so, could you please post the link? thank you.

The One, thanks so much for the info. seems to me that something is going on. i remember last fall that lyndsey williams told alex jones that a woman he knows from arizona was told by j. napolitano to stock up on food and find a safe place to be because something bad was going to happen. i do not know the time line, but i know what was reported by a. jones. and lyndsey williams has been right about everything he told alex to date. i wouldn't be at all surprised if nasa is purposely leaking information to get the attention needed for the gov., to bring it too the publics' attention.
regards, corson

[Bryn ap Gwilym]

The latest data with some pretty pics.

http://www.aerith.net/comet/weekly/current.html
http://cometography.com/current_comets.html

[jsb_swampfox]

Corson:

I looked on the youtube channel and I didnt see another part to this video....here is the channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/mankindmatrix#p/u

[The One]

So many possabilities the video below Sheilaaliens analysis about different unknown objects near the sun.

The different objects that appear in the stero images is not Nibiru because it is not a planet and they comes and goes as it wants.

It is not a second Sun, because it is not a Sun.

If the legend of Nibiru was referring to a giant UFO that was acting as a planet to bring Aliens to here, then I suppose it could be that.

There could still be some unseen (or seen) legitimate planet with inhabitants coming our way out of nowhere. Or the legend of Nibiru could have been referring to the comet (asteroid) Elenin. Time will tell.

hqFGwHGOB1o

[christian]

In the latest Camelot Whistleblower Radio (right click > save) (http://www.americanfreedomradio.com/archive/Project-Camelot-32k-071311.mp3) Kerry talks about this with Sean Morton and Miriam Delicado in the first hour, they got interesting insights on Elenin, I cannot quote them accurately from memory, but appearantly some of what they say correlates with the article here and some doesn't, neither of them referred to NASA.


the source, NASA, is impeccable

:flypig:

[Liquid]

However scary it sounds, it fits in with the 3 days of darkness prophecy, and the reason why countries have built hundreds of underground bases. It also explains why the Vatican has telescopes watching the skies - they obviously had access to texts not in the public domain.

[truth4me]

Do you know what we all agreed to be here on this planet at this time and if we couldn't handle it we wouldn't be here, so there seems little point in stressing about being in the right place or having the right things packed and ready, just know in your hearts you will be were you are supposed to be love is all there is any way, all is as it should be never forget we are eternal beings

:luv:couldn't have said it better....

[loveandgratitude]

Comet Elenin Becoming A Disappointment to Astronomers

The size and brightness of comet elenin is becoming a disappointment to more astronomers who are now beginning to lose interest in the comet. Sydneystargazers also predicted this a month or so ago that Elenin may end up a fizzer like the last visit of Halley’s comet. We will still document it here but don’t expect too much fuss about Elenin in the scientific community.

Comet Elenin is currently south of the ecliptic plane but will move north of the ecliptic plane on the 14th of September at a distance of 0.6 AU from Earth or 89,758,800 km ( 233 times further away than our Moon).

When comet Elenin passes Earth at it’s closest distance on October 16 it will be 0.03 AU or 4.5 million km north of the ecliptic plane.

According to the latest orbital data on Elenin updated 3 days ago, when comet elenin passes Earth not only will it be well above the Earth’s orbit but it will also be 0.233 AU (34.8 million km away from Earth or 90 times further away than our Moon.

And since the comet will be north of the ecliptic plane, so will it’s tail. This most likely means we will not even see any meteor showers when Elenin passes.

For those who don’t know, the ecliptic plane is the plane of the Earth’s orbit around the Sun.

So to summarize…..

When it passes Earth October 16, comet Elenin will be well north of the ecliptic plane and 34.8 million km away.

Not exactly close since the minimum distance Venus gets to Earth every 1.5 years is 38 million km.

Data on Elenin suggests that the comet is only about 3 or 4km in size which makes it rather a small sized comet. Hopefully it will be still visible in the sky later this year but it certainly is not going to live up to the expectations of it currently circulating around the Internet.

http://sydneystargazers.com/2011/07/05/comet-elenin-becoming-a-disappointment-to-astronomers/

[crosby]

here is a link to part 2 of the vid., that jsb_swampfox posted.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9V3DFr-61U&feature=related (first vid.)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SI4QFDXGsms&feature=related (prequel)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KM6F-Vv35j0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzF3zgZIu7g&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6Zyw-R8qbg&feature=related

i'm listening to it now. this man does seem to know a lot of information.
regards, corson

[Snoweagle]

Well, now we have a potential reason for the globe being chem-trailed.

From the previous videos and the radio interview and lets assume for arguments sake that Elenin and Nibiru are one and the same thing which has been foretold in countless prophecies which we can expect within the next few months then I think I may have a relationship between Elenins approach and the global chem-trail nightmare.

The impact on Gaia and humanity of Elenins crossing proposes to be profound from the historical evidence and from the vague and sketchy scientific evidence gleaned so far by conspiracy researchers.

However, lets look at the evidence.
Nations rapidly building underground shelters.
Rise of the global police states.
Massive storage of the worlds fauna and flora seed stock.
Elite investors buying up everything that is available.
The fiction of global warming driving the new tax debt regime
False flag events affecting country after country
etc, etc, etc . . .
So who is or how many people can be arsed with speculative rumors of a potential extinction event possibly happening "next month", when everybody is deadlocked with fear and debt with the world they perceive they see? Especially on the telly, which I do not have.

The chemtrail crisis has the world talking yet authorities turn a deaf ear. Why? Is the world of Freemasonry that powerful, that they can influence silence across the globe to such great affect? I do not think so personally. The conscience of even the hardest amongst us has limits too.

Elenin, as reported within the earlier radio interview, will impact our electromagnetic regime on Earth to devastating effect on all living things. Earths Schumann resonance, our brain pump, is gonna go off the scale. Have no idea in what manner yet. It cannot be good.

Elenin is described as a "brown dwarf", "neutron" and hot iron star all of which are really bad news if it comes as close as 0.2Au for us. Huge Gravity pulls, earth pole flipping, massive earthquakes and mile high floods. Not much scarier then.

Elenin is also trailing debris, trillions of asteroids, comets and stuff which the Earth will cruise through, upside down by then, just to torment us once again before it makes it's bumpy ride out of the Solar System once again. Woopee do.

Not really looking to good for Gaia or humanity.

So what has this to do with chem-trails. Well, the chemistry of chem-trails is predominantly Barium, Strontium and Aluminum. Both Barium and Strontium are integral to superconductivity research along with normally Copper (amongst others too). But Copper is not as abundant as Aluminum which happens to be the third most abundant element on the planet, so it is not unreasonable to consider Aluminum's choice over Copper for the global chem-trail project.

This then provides our mother Gaia with a "sorta" shield not dissimilar to that described by Zacharia Sitchins description of the Annunaki requiring Gold for their own planet protective shield. So how does this protect us? Well both, Barium and Strontium have properties which when in suitable mixtures, mole equivalent relations, they block or diminish electromagnetic frequencies within the X ray region. There are clearly other ingredients to chemically enforce this bond relationship within the atmosphere though currently beyond me here to explain.

The Aluminum component will clearly act as the prime conductor and the neutron element absorbed by the charged reactive chem-trailed particles will be scooted off to the North Pole, to pass through the Earth and expelled through the new Mass Neutron Detector built at the South Pole. (Alongside the infra red telescope built to monitor Elenins approach). By the way, this South Pole Neutron detector, built be US taxpayers is now "losing money" and is now being sold off the the US government to private owners. The elite just do not stop do they?

Anyways, that's how I see things at the moment and it adds clarity to all the UFO sitings being seen worldwide as not to invade our world but to render assistance as this passing of Elenin is so close it will be a global extinction event by those on the surface.

Consider the impact of a full moon on our tides. Coincident with a storm. All hell breaks out. Elenin will be magnitudes greater than we can possibly imagine. So if any aliens wanna come pick me up, am packed and ready to go and I wanna planet that grows hashish in abundance:-)

Sorry for length of article, am tired and wanted to crash something out before I hit the sack. Take care and good luck to us all.

[Sloppyjoe]

I read the OP's article 3 times and I didn't see where NASA confirmed Elenin is affecting earth? I believe this is a fear mongering thing just like any other event that never ends up happening. It may not end up happening for two reasons, 1. the info is bogus, 2. E.T. that wish to see us develop prevent it from happening (ex: the theory that aliens took care of nibiru in 2003) I like to believe that both 1 & 2 are relevant in everyday topics.

[ghostrider]

Do you know what we all agreed to be here on this planet at this time and if we couldn't handle it we wouldn't be here, so there seems little point in stressing about being in the right place or having the right things packed and ready, just know in your hearts you will be were you are supposed to be love is all there is any way, all is as it should be never forget we are eternal beings

:luv:couldn't have said it better.... agreed- we will soon return to spirit form....

[naranger]

This same info is found in the the Zetas webpage. We have to help wake up as much people as possible fot the ascension. I wish you all much love. Namaste George Naranjo-Ecuador

[loveandgratitude]

FEAR IS THEIR OPERATIONAL FORCE..........It keeps you in the lower mind state. Do not give up your freedom for safety. Freedom takes courage.

[Draco]

wow cool stuff thks for the heads up with be watching the skyies with my teleascope, an interesting side note i check out jpl on nasa website, and looking at the dates for september 26,27 the alinment with mercury sun and earth looks interesting given the track record on alignments so far , i was looking at a few othe sites and saw something about elenin being a smoke screen for the bigger 2005 yu55 metorite so i type that in to jpl and there it was so i started to watch its path and its even closer than elenin . As i watched i quickly went back to elenin path and wow some interesting alignments , speptember 26,27 2005 yu55 aligns with both elenin and Venus while earth and elenin and 2005 Yu55 align to make a triangle, very interesting stuff. From October 31 thru to nov 9 looks very close all three , 2005 Yu55 is the closest only 0.0023AU on Nov 9. http://ssd.jpl.nasa.gov/sbdb.cgi?sstr=2005%20YU55;orb=1;cov=0;log=0;cad=1#cad, http://ssd.jpl.nasa.gov/sbdb.cgi?sstr=elenin;orb=1;cov=0;log=0;cad=0#orb this dates is also interestng cause from what ive herd from the project camalot conference that some sort of secruity event will take place with homeland taken over all broad cast stations and having a so called training exercise from the 4th of november. This to me feels like the earth will be still in some way intact but broken at the same time. And as we are busy cleaning up after the rough parts, they will be planing to check out the object or what ever it is. All we can do now is have more awareness, be vigilent and be prepared have a plan A and B , plan for both senarios , dont let it get u down just have back up ready just incase then go on with ur life spreeding the good feeling for us all, and when and where it happens you will know that you have at least prepared your mind to go forward with these changes .

[Sloppyjoe]

FEAR IS THEIR OPERATIONAL FORCE..........It keeps you in the lower mind state. Do not give up your freedom for safety. Freedom takes courage.

Yes, greg braden's DNA video really opened my mind. How fear essentially equals less potential and love opens up more potential.

[The One]

Elenin Warning Video - Sept. 26 Crisis
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http://planetxtownhall.com/index.php?topic=2210.msg29033#msg29033

check out this radio interview http://www.blogtalkradio.com/yowradio/2011/05/04/is-elenin-just-a-great-comet-or-is-it-more

[nomadguy]

Elenin is a mere 3-4 miles in size. It would appear very small and would have a tale.
I think it may be possible that our solar system is indeed a binary system. And that our binary star is going to come into alignment where it is viewable from Earth and perhaps it will stay this way for whatever thousands of years. There is quite a bit of evidence now that a second sun is now visible. And it is not brown. -

http://www.cfht.hawaii.edu/en/gallery/cloudcams/index.php?opts=movies&moviefile=data/movies/Jul24.mp4

[GlassSteagallfan]

i try to wear the elite hat once in a while

if elenin is a non-event, which i partially believe, as an elite i would coincide my man-made disasters with the comet so i could point the finger elsewhere

keep in mind, they want to kill at least 5 billion quickly

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[Eric J (Viking)]

Found this on my travels>>> Interesting statement which I have highlighted...

Friends, this short video shows the changes that are happening in our solar system, to refute those who claim that there is no trace of a massive celestial body invading our system. For these facts, there is no scientific explanation because until scientists are open-mouthed with the facts. They are also announcing a possible and imminent explosion of the sun Betelgeuse supernova in the constellation of Orion to justify the "appearance" of two suns in our skies at any time. Increase the video, read news and see these symptoms by yourself. Do not be fooled again without having the chance to form your own opinions.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhOG85fJ7IM&feature=uploademail

viking

[JoshERTW]

Elenin's mass and dimensions are shown on the JPL trajectory site, its so small that it will have about the same effect on the earth gravitationally as a fly buzzing around your head...

Fear porn

That said I acknowledge the evidence galactic climate chance, its undeniable, but I would guess this is more likely due to a) Solar Changes or b) our solar sytem entering an area of higher energy, but No way Elenin is the cause.

As for the earquakes happening during alignments, HAARP anyone?

[The Truth Is In There]

small correction in the light of new evidence :o

please ignore the conclusions drawn in the above file. the electromagnetism thing is correct but it's the magnetism of nibiru/planet x and not elenin. elenin is just the precursor.

check out the following file, it explains everything in detail incl. scientific proof (and lots of calculations, my head's still spinning) and it gives a timeline. the conclusion is that october 2012 is the most probable date for the pole shift (give or take two months depending on the acceleration of planet x as it comes closer to the sun) and that there will be much more severe earth changes beginning in september this year with another peak around march 11, 2012. it's all there, this does it for me, now i'm 100% convinced. :amen:

http://www.scribd.com/fullscreen/60725711

[Eric J (Viking)]

small correction in the light of new evidence :o

please ignore the conclusions drawn in the above file. the electromagnetism thing is correct but it's the magnetism of nibiru/planet x and not elenin. elenin is just the precursor.

check out the following file, it explains everything in detail incl. scientific proof (and lots of calculations, my head's still spinning) and it gives a timeline. the conclusion is that october 2012 is the most probable date for the pole shift (give or take two months depending on the acceleration of planet x as it comes closer to the sun) and that there will be much more serious earth changes beginning in september this year with another peak around march 11, 2012. it's all there, this does it for me, now i'm 100% convinced. :amen:

http://www.scribd.com/fullscreen/60725711

Hi Truth ...

I've had a quick scan (proper read later) through the 'scribe document'...excellent data and information >>>

I recommend all to read...

Thanks again.

viking

[JDM]

Before its news is not a very credible source of information.

It just looks like the same old conspiracies thats been going around for some time now. Just repackaged and sold as new information. It creates hype and interest for those wanting to read and believe it, like a good thriller or sci-fi novel.

No doubt that celestial bodies in our solar system do effect earth, but I think some have just blown this whole thing way out of proportion.

tell that to the dinosaurs- tell that to noah- tell that to the ice age victms- tell that to the sumerians- tell that to the myans- tell that to the annunaki who foretold it would happen again and again- tell that to the pleadians who told of the destroyer comet to billy meir- why is the moon tilted? why is the earth tilted? why is the entire solar system heating up? could it be another sun in our solar system? nibiru/elenin/planet x/ give it any name you want. whats that large object on the soho site? whats that large second sun rising at night in the south pole? the sun rises in the north east and set in the north west- something is tipping earth over-- blown out of proportion? it's even biblical told in revelations. how much more does an awake mind need? nsa moved it's headquarters to utah/ mountains. cia moved it's headquarters to denver mountains- alot of retired military are moving to the ozark mountains. they know- a great flood is coming...... over 30 countries are involved in over 70 bases in antartica since the 50's to view the approach of nibiru... blown out of proportion? nothing else on the planet matters..but where is it and how close will it pass this time...... hence the term planet of the crossing......

I never said It couldnt happen or that it has never happened before. We know for a fact that it happens and that its going to happen again.

Its MY opinion (and I could be wrong just like everybody else here) that this Eleinin thing is just people creating hype and trying there best to connect dots to other happenings even though they could be truly unrelated. Ill be the first to say theres nothing wrong with research and investigating information. But Ill also be skeptical of alot of information out there. especially on sites that thrive on conspiracies, ATS, GLP, OMF etc...

I never meet the ancients. I only know what other people have told me about them.
I never meet the annunaki or the pleadians either. I cant tell them anything.
The solar system could be heating up because everything goes in cycles in nature, the sun, ice ages, etc.. or could be a celestial body.
Soho website? Probably the sun. or a spaceship or a planet or comet.
whats that large second sun rising at night in the south pole? What?
NSA opened a new "Data facility" in utah, not there headquarters.
CIA moved to Colorado. Nice place. I would go live there if I could its a beautiful state. away from everything and you can survive a global disaster there. maybe..
DUMB's are a great idea. continuity of government plans. save the best and brightest. I would. It would be just stupid not to be prepared for any disaster.

Nothing else on this planet matters? What?
If this is going to be an ELE then theres nothing you or me or anybody else can do about it anyway. Im not going to waste to much time worrying about it because I cant control whats going to happen. Anyone of us could go out an have an accident and die today. or we might just live another 80 years an die then, and that will still only seem like the blink of an eye.

I think something BIG will happen in the coming years.
But its just my opinion that this BIG event has nothing to do with this comet.

[Carolin]

This guy on utube somethingintheclouds wraps up the weeks events and puts a bow on it.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCPsPsWPCYE

[Tony]

I am now convinced it is all a total hoax! Why, because the BBC is in on it!
Thank you for that.

[Rocky_Shorz]

wake up people... http://keepamericaatwork.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/gop-sucks-big-time.jpg

12 million are starving in Africa and they are arguing over money made from air?

get the vertical farms rolling...


what aren't they talking about?

[Rocky_Shorz]

small correction in the light of new evidence :o

please ignore the conclusions drawn in the above file. the electromagnetism thing is correct but it's the magnetism of nibiru/planet x and not elenin. elenin is just the precursor.

check out the following file, it explains everything in detail incl. scientific proof (and lots of calculations, my head's still spinning) and it gives a timeline. the conclusion is that october 2012 is the most probable date for the pole shift (give or take two months depending on the acceleration of planet x as it comes closer to the sun) and that there will be much more severe earth changes beginning in september this year with another peak around march 11, 2012. it's all there, this does it for me, now i'm 100% convinced. :amen:

http://www.scribd.com/fullscreen/60725711

anyone ever notice how every time we approach a terror date a new one appears, in case nothing happens...

guess someone likes us on the edge of our seats... lol

[ghostrider]

it was 113 here in tulsa sunday july 24th. it's been over 100 for 44 straight days. we are finding dead animals here and there, and water mains are breaking and they don't know why. plant life and trees think it's october leaves falling trees dead, grass dead, it's 92 at 730 in the morning. this haox is really crushing us.

[beyondmyctrl]

it was 113 here in tulsa sunday july 24th. it's been over 100 for 44 straight days. we are finding dead animals here and there, and water mains are breaking and they don't know why. plant life and trees think it's october leaves falling trees dead, grass dead, it's 92 at 730 in the morning. this haox is really crushing us.

Vancouver BC here, and although we are used to havin' crappy weather, we usually have beautiful summers blue skies and all, so far this year we've seen the sun about 3 times since the summer season started , it's been cloudy everyday, it's crazy, I mean it's almost august. I don't care what anybody says , there's definitely something goin' on with the weather on this planet......

[dddanieljjjamesss]

I believe Elenin is a psy-op.

That being said, at some point in any planet's history, something cosmic will always have a close encounter.

It may even be a necessary precursor to an intelligent beings ability to leave their planet.

[HORIZONS]

it was 113 here in tulsa sunday july 24th. it's been over 100 for 44 straight days. we are finding dead animals here and there, and water mains are breaking and they don't know why. plant life and trees think it's october leaves falling trees dead, grass dead, it's 92 at 730 in the morning. this haox is really crushing us.

Vancouver BC here, and although we are used to havin' crappy weather, we usually have beautiful summers blue skies and all, so far this year we've seen the sun about 3 times since the summer season started , it's been cloudy everyday, it's crazy, I mean it's almost august. I don't care what anybody says , there's definitely something goin' on with the weather on this planet......

Could be that all those chemtrails are wrecking havoc on our weather patterns - and who knows what else. Spraying all that crap for all these years has to have some effect on weather patterns - at least that's what I think.

[HORIZONS]

I believe Elenin is a psy-op.

That being said, at some point in any planet's history, something cosmic will always have a close encounter.

It may even be a necessary precursor to an intelligent beings ability to leave their planet.

That could very well be true - it sure can - and is - creating fear, and fear is the only weapon that can be used against us - if we allow it to be that is.

[Eric J (Viking)]

I am now convinced it is all a total hoax! Why, because the BBC is in on it!
Thank you for that.

BBC has nowt to do with this video...the video maker has put the logo for effect!!

That is not to say any of the information is untruth...on the contrary it's all happening now...the question you need to ask yourself is why??

All information from the vid has been obtained from here...
http://www.sott.net/signs/list_by_category/4-Earth-Changes

Mainstream haven't picked up on this yet .................. soon.

ps edit ...in fact the BBC logo is only shown when the volcanoes are erupting, so obviously he's taken the clip from a BBC volcanic eruption somewhere ... perhaps the Iceland eruption??

viking

[HORIZONS]

This guy on utube somethingintheclouds wraps up the weeks events and puts a bow on it.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCPsPsWPCYE

It is very difficult for me to trust any photo's or movie film that I see anywhere nowadays, as it is so easy to manipulate film in any fashion with modern computer programs.

[ghostrider]

it was 113 here in tulsa sunday july 24th. it's been over 100 for 44 straight days. we are finding dead animals here and there, and water mains are breaking and they don't know why. plant life and trees think it's october leaves falling trees dead, grass dead, it's 92 at 730 in the morning. this haox is really crushing us.

Vancouver BC here, and although we are used to havin' crappy weather, we usually have beautiful summers blue skies and all, so far this year we've seen the sun about 3 times since the summer season started , it's been cloudy everyday, it's crazy, I mean it's almost august. I don't care what anybody says , there's definitely something goin' on with the weather on this planet...... we normally don't get 100 till the last two weeks of august then in september in just drops boom 65 70 degrees.

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it was 113 here in tulsa sunday july 24th. it's been over 100 for 44 straight days. we are finding dead animals here and there, and water mains are breaking and they don't know why. plant life and trees think it's october leaves falling trees dead, grass dead, it's 92 at 730 in the morning. this haox is really crushing us.

Vancouver BC here, and although we are used to havin' crappy weather, we usually have beautiful summers blue skies and all, so far this year we've seen the sun about 3 times since the summer season started , it's been cloudy everyday, it's crazy, I mean it's almost august. I don't care what anybody says , there's definitely something goin' on with the weather on this planet......

Could be that all those chemtrails are wrecking havoc on our weather patterns - and who knows what else. Spraying all that crap for all these years has to have some effect on weather patterns - at least that's what I think.
chemtrails were to shield us from photons and radiation from nibiru. slight cloud cover also cuts the temp down...

[HORIZONS]

it was 113 here in tulsa sunday july 24th. it's been over 100 for 44 straight days. we are finding dead animals here and there, and water mains are breaking and they don't know why. plant life and trees think it's october leaves falling trees dead, grass dead, it's 92 at 730 in the morning. this haox is really crushing us.

Vancouver BC here, and although we are used to havin' crappy weather, we usually have beautiful summers blue skies and all, so far this year we've seen the sun about 3 times since the summer season started , it's been cloudy everyday, it's crazy, I mean it's almost august. I don't care what anybody says , there's definitely something goin' on with the weather on this planet...... we normally don't get 100 till the last two weeks of august then in september in just drops boom 65 70 degrees.

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it was 113 here in tulsa sunday july 24th. it's been over 100 for 44 straight days. we are finding dead animals here and there, and water mains are breaking and they don't know why. plant life and trees think it's october leaves falling trees dead, grass dead, it's 92 at 730 in the morning. this haox is really crushing us.

Vancouver BC here, and although we are used to havin' crappy weather, we usually have beautiful summers blue skies and all, so far this year we've seen the sun about 3 times since the summer season started , it's been cloudy everyday, it's crazy, I mean it's almost august. I don't care what anybody says , there's definitely something goin' on with the weather on this planet......

Could be that all those chemtrails are wrecking havoc on our weather patterns - and who knows what else. Spraying all that crap for all these years has to have some effect on weather patterns - at least that's what I think.
chemtrails were to shield us from photons and radiation from nibiru. slight cloud cover also cuts the temp down...

Not if it is trapping the suns radiation in our atmosphere, and not letting it reflect back out into space.

[dddanieljjjamesss]

it was 113 here in tulsa sunday july 24th. it's been over 100 for 44 straight days. we are finding dead animals here and there, and water mains are breaking and they don't know why. plant life and trees think it's october leaves falling trees dead, grass dead, it's 92 at 730 in the morning. this haox is really crushing us.

Vancouver BC here, and although we are used to havin' crappy weather, we usually have beautiful summers blue skies and all, so far this year we've seen the sun about 3 times since the summer season started , it's been cloudy everyday, it's crazy, I mean it's almost august. I don't care what anybody says , there's definitely something goin' on with the weather on this planet...... we normally don't get 100 till the last two weeks of august then in september in just drops boom 65 70 degrees.

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it was 113 here in tulsa sunday july 24th. it's been over 100 for 44 straight days. we are finding dead animals here and there, and water mains are breaking and they don't know why. plant life and trees think it's october leaves falling trees dead, grass dead, it's 92 at 730 in the morning. this haox is really crushing us.

Vancouver BC here, and although we are used to havin' crappy weather, we usually have beautiful summers blue skies and all, so far this year we've seen the sun about 3 times since the summer season started , it's been cloudy everyday, it's crazy, I mean it's almost august. I don't care what anybody says , there's definitely something goin' on with the weather on this planet......

Could be that all those chemtrails are wrecking havoc on our weather patterns - and who knows what else. Spraying all that crap for all these years has to have some effect on weather patterns - at least that's what I think.
chemtrails were to shield us from photons and radiation from nibiru. slight cloud cover also cuts the temp down...

this statement needs sauce

[ghostrider]

thin clouds can decrease the suns tempature reaching earth by more than you think. I work outside every day, the slightest cloud cover gives instant relief when it's over 100. By the chemtrailers thinly layering clouds it hides the fact that it doesn't take high temps for the suns radiation to crispy our skin. on clear days with 110 degrees if you stand still in sunlight you can feel the burn. I'm used to the sun and this summer doing my normal duties sunlight microwaves my flesh and I'm beet red not brown anymore - red. I've noticed with cloud cover it's hot but it doesn't burn like direct sunlight. I got a private message last year while I stumbled on to something and this source that lives near an airfield confirmed my theory. pilots are arrogant and have BIG egos. cause they fly everyone else doesn't so they know everything and are quick to speak their entire mind, especially when it's cold beer time and bar flies are present. is that enough sauce?

[toothpick]

Great video Caroline, very interesting.
The weather seems to be crazy all over the world.
We get alot of snow in the winter here, we are right in a snow belt.
Usually it,s pretty bad and I,ve seen it so bad that i,d have to plough my 1/4 mile laneway,
up to three times in one day just to keep it open, because my 82 yr old mom lives here.
Anyway, last winter, 2010, I only had to plough my laneway 3 times all winter.
Built this house 35 years ago and have never seen such odd weather before.
There is absolutely something going on with our home planet.

toothpick

[The Truth Is In There]

anyone ever notice how every time we approach a terror date a new one appears, in case nothing happens...

guess someone likes us on the edge of our seats... lol

that's why this file is so important. it gives an exact timeline with proof. no mere theory and hearsay like all those others.

[Carolin]

I like his videos because he just states the facts and the facts are speakaing volumes!!! Last week we had 6 earthquakes over 6. That is huge! On the USGS website they list the years average for 6 to 6.9 earthquakes worldwide is 134 and we've already had 130 so far this year. And that's with their efforts to dumb it down. An earthquake struck parts of Metro Manila and Central Luzon on Tuesday at 1:15 a.m., magnitude 6.2, according to the Philippine Volcanology and Seismology Institute (Phivolcs); but the US Geological Service (USGS) recorded it at magnitude 5.9. Here is "Elenin News" from last week.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQlaBPFLurY&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL

[SEAM]

The part about sinkholes did it for me in your article Truth... Read what Florida is doing to get ready: http://www2.tbo.com/news/politics/2011/jul/27/5/citizens-proposes-massive-sinkhole-rate-hike-ar-246651/

[Houman]

See attached files

radius of the magnetic field: 8.16 AU

Mass: 3.3 Jupiter Masses

Magnetic Strength 1/6 of that of the sun

(estimated) 27 September 2012: will eclipse the sun

Elenin is pushed by its magnetic field

[Calz]

What is the source of the images?

[Houman]

For the second one...
http://space.skyrocket.de/doc_sdat/astro-f.htm

[Zepheriah]

What is the source of the information?

[Malachi]

a bit more info about these pictures would be great. the second one is from 2003?

[TheSwede]

(estimated) 27 September 2012: will eclipse the sun



That is incorrect, it will potentially eclipse the sun this year and not 2012. So 2011-08-27 its between earth and the sun.

[Calz]

(estimated) 27 September 2012: will eclipse the sun



That is incorrect, it will potentially eclipse the sun this year and not 2012. So 2011-08-27 its between earth and the sun.

Going by the title of the thread it is not elenin being referred to so the date might be correct ... but we await details/links ...

[The Truth Is In There]

this topic is discussed in detail here (page 31f):
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?16101-Proof-that-Comet-Elenin-doesn-t-exists--We-have-Nibiru-instead-/page31

the file can be found here:
http://www.scribd.com/fullscreen/60725711

[Malachi]

For the second one...
http://space.skyrocket.de/doc_sdat/astro-f.htm

this satellite was launched in 2006. the date on the picture is 21.10.2003.

[Houman]

Not sure about the source of this document, I can't confirm its validity at this stage but someone spent a lot of time on it...

[The Truth Is In There]

it's identical to the file we talked about in the other elenin thread. i'd like to get my hands on the original file in which the links work. if anyone finds it please post a link.

[InTheBackground]

After a little bit of googling:

There is a post on Godlike Productions that says the report/file relates back to Astrolpatriot. ( http://204.74.214.194/forum1/message1574871/pg29 ) It states that the Cru4t person being referenced is supposedly Dr. Byron Glen from Missouri who has since separated himself from being connected with Astrolpatriot and Terral Croft. On one of the pages of the report it says "comparison's were done by Dr. Glenn's son, Ghaffar, using Starry Night."

Cru4t did, however, phone into a radio show about something he saw and photographed back in May. You can listen to that here on youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0enHKCET1s

The plot thickens, always. :)

[The One]

Whatever is going on the government will pretend what's approaching is hostile so that they can keep us under their thumb

cSGiMVgaoGs

[truth4me]

Our government? No way our government would do that. They are totally up standing people......:pound:

[Houman]

The following paper doesn't confirm the Niburu story but it does confirm the high energy ribbon story that Pane Andov was talking about
http://iopscience.iop.org/0004-637X/731/1/56
apparently we are already in it but the wave has not hit us yet...
http://www.unh.edu/news/cj_nr/2011/mar/ds30ribbon.cfm

[<8>]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mbBbFH9fAg&ob=av3e
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mbBbFH9fAg&ob=av3e

[Houman]

It would have been interesting to check the credentials of that guy...
http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1574554/pg1

[crosby]

hi the one, i just found this article that was posted on the 27th. i thought it was rather interesting, since i really haven't seen anything of any real measure in the news. enjoy.
regards, corson

http://www.space.com/12450-unknown-comet-earth-threat-meteor-shower-evidence.html


let me know what you think. i thought it was provocative because of the wording. is it? or isn't it? will it? or won't it? because of the controversy regarding the incoming comet agenda, i'd say this might be worth investigating a little more closely.

[loveandgratitude]

Interesting video. This guy (he sounds like George Bush) brings up some interesting polints of view regarding Elenin and what is being released to us. We live in interesting times. Not long now to find out.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6D-taa-IqCw


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6D-taa-IqCw

[MargueriteBee]

Can I have a link as my iPad does not show me embeds?

[loveandgratitude]

MargueriteBee
This is the link to this video................
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6D-taa-IqCw

[Providence]

I attribute this information to YouTuber Dutchsinse who acts as a dissemination point for alternative news reported to him from people like you and me.

Just had to share...

CNN - iReport
Comet ELENIN, Earthquakes and you (published JUly 25th, 2011)
http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-640370

[crosby]

thank you Providence for your thread. this is the first main stream media report that has been uncovered. what i find most interesting is that the name Elenin has a very distinct meaning. Extinction Level Event Notable Impact November. i for one, do not believe in a russian scientist who just happens to have that name. what are the chances of that?

i also found the fact that 2 major news papers covered the story 25 years ago. this is very valuable information. this should definitely be a must read thread.
regards, corson

[Pete]

in the same vein i share the following
http://www.timesfinalrose.org/
would be interested in your thoughts
pete

[crosby]

in the same vein i share the following
http://www.timesfinalrose.org/
would be interested in your thoughts
pete


thanks Pete, and welcome to avalon.
regards, corson

[Providence]

I have to admit that I felt like this was a significant level of disclosure, since it appears to be sanctioned by CNN for publishing.

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in the same vein i share the following
http://www.timesfinalrose.org/
would be interested in your thoughts
pete

Going to look into it, thanks for sharing and also, welcome to Avalon!

[Rocky_Shorz]

iReport isn't the same as "sanctioned by CNN"...

welcome to the edge of your seats everyone...

once everyone sees it is CNN, it is already confirmed as truths in their minds...

it will start as a compilation and then become a source for "Facts"

We get front row seats...


Welcome to Avalon, just having some fun...

[seko]

in the same vein i share the following
http://www.timesfinalrose.org/
would be interested in your thoughts
pete

Hi Pete,

Welcome to P.A.

Can you give us your comments on the link you provided. I'm reading it right now.

Thanks you.

Seko

[Providence]

iReport isn't the same as "sanctioned by CNN"...

welcome to the edge of your seats everyone...

once everyone sees it is CNN, it is already confirmed as truths in their minds...

it will start as a compilation and then become a source for "Facts"

We get front row seats...




I agree, still skeptical as to why this appears on the CNN website. Maybe officially we can't consider it sanctioned by CNN, but at least I can 'con' my friends and family into reading an article on ELENIN if it appears to be from a network news source.
B-)

[Bryn ap Gwilym]

This should give folk a better insight into what an iReport (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IReport) is.

I would imagine that someone from CNN has given the story a once over & has rubber stamped it with their indorsement / endorsement?

[Billy]

Thank you for the links, looking now. In the meantime
A Gnostic take on what they name the Herconubus situation.

http://home.earthlink.net/~gnosisla/March5.html

Part Quote:

A very important cosmic event takes place each time the Earth enters the zodiacal constellation of Aquarius. This event causes great natural disasters to occur, and has been responsible for the end of every root race that existed upon the Earth. At the end of every sidereal year, after moving from Pisces to Aquarius, the orbit of the Earth approaches the orbit of a planet found in the Tyler Solar System. In Gnosis this planet is known as "Hercolubus". In the Bible this planet is referred to as "Wormwood", while modern astronomers have named it "Barnard I". Hercolubus is about 600 times the size of the Earth, and so as the orbits of the two planets get closer their gravitational and magnetic fields exert forces on one another.

Hercolubus never comes close enough to physically collide with the Earth, but due to its size exerts very strong gravitational and electromagnetic forces. These forces cause great natural catastrophes to occur on the Earth, such as volcanic eruptions, earthquakes, tidal waves, hurricanes, etc. In addition, Hercolubus' gravitational fields cause the Earth's axis of rotation to tilt. Currently it is tilted about 23 degrees from its original position, and as Hercolubus comes closer and closer the tilting will accelerate. This will result in the poles becoming the equator and vice versa. Currently we are in the 37th year of the Age of Aquarius. Hercolubus and the Earth reach their closest distance during the beginning of the Aquarian Age; the natural catastrophes that have resulted have been responsible for the end of the previous four root races, and will be responsible for the end of our present civilization. We are already seeing more natural disasters throughout the world than in the past. As Hercolubus approaches these disasters will accelerate exponentially.

The encounter of the Earth with Hercolubus takes place every sidereal year, and is thus a natural cosmic event. The first few races were not afraid of the disasters since they had not degenerated. They still had extraordinary powers, and used them to escape the catastrophes. The Protoplasmatic and Hyperborean races, for example, simply submerged themselves into the 4th dimension when the catastrophes began multiplying. The portion of the Lemurian civilization that had not degenerated did the same, while the rest perished. The vast majority of the Atlanteans died during the submersion of Atlantis, but a small minority was able to escape. Unfortunately, due to the extreme degeneration of the Arian race, there will be few who will survive the upcoming cataclysms.

Master Samael Aun Weor openly declares in his writings that we are at the times of the end. He states that when the disasters begin occurring , those who have eliminated 50% of their psychological ego will be taken to a place where they will be safe from the catastrophes. They will watch, in safety, the cataclysms that will take placed on the rest of the planet, while continuing to work on themselves in order to eliminate the rest of their ego. This group of people will provide the seed for the sixth root race, and no one with ego will be allowed to inhabit the Earth during the Golden Age of that race. This is why the Gnostic teachings, which were taught in secrecy only in authentic mystery schools, are now being made freely available to the public - in order for whoever genuinely works on himself or herself to be able to escape the upcoming disasters.

In order to eliminate the psychological ego and to awaken consciousness we must practice the Three Factors for the Revolution of Consciousness. The Three Factors are the foundation and the essence of the Gnostic Esoteric Work. By practicing the Three Factors we will be able to study Gnostic anthropology in an experiential manner, and to verify its validity through direct, personal, and conscious experience. In this way we will not naively believe or disbelieve, but rather we will know the truth for ourselves.

[RMorgan]

This is not a CNN report. Just read the popup:

"Welcome to iReport, where people take part in the news with CNN. Your voice, together with other iReporters, helps shape how and what CNN covers every day.
So you know: iReport is the way people like you report the news. The stories in this section are not edited, fact-checked or screened before they post. Only ones marked 'CNN iReport' have been vetted by CNN."

[Providence]

what i find most interesting is that the name Elenin has a very distinct meaning. Extinction Level Event Notable Impact November. i for one, do not believe in a russian scientist who just happens to have that name. what are the chances of that?

I found that intriguing as well, and I am with you, I think the Russian scientist story is just that, a story!

[Providence]

This is not a CNN report. Just read the popup:

"Welcome to iReport, where people take part in the news with CNN. Your voice, together with other iReporters, helps shape how and what CNN covers every day.
So you know: iReport is the way people like you report the news. The stories in this section are not edited, fact-checked or screened before they post. Only ones marked 'CNN iReport' have been vetted by CNN."

That's probably right, but just surprised that they wouldn't delete the post, much less allow it to be published on their site, even with the disclaimers.

[yiolas]

iReport isn't the same as "sanctioned by CNN"...

welcome to the edge of your seats everyone...

once everyone sees it is CNN, it is already confirmed as truths in their minds...

it will start as a compilation and then become a source for "Facts"

We get front row seats...




I agree, still skeptical as to why this appears on the CNN website. Maybe officially we can't consider it sanctioned by CNN, but at least I can 'con' my friends and family into reading an article on ELENIN if it appears to be from a network news source.
B-)

Hi Providence, my feelings exactly. I've been searching for something just like this to show my still asleep friends and family.

[Billy]

Russian astronomer LEONID ELENIN comes out to debunk the "Extinction Level Event" psy-op.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MD-V6KmiB78

[beyondmyctrl]

This should give folk a better insight into what an iReport (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IReport) is.

I would imagine that someone from CNN has given the story a once over & has rubber stamped it with their indorsement / endorsement?

did you not read your own link ? Submissions are not edited, fact-checked, or screened.[1]

[Providence]

I hope you're right, but there appears to be a lot of evidence indicating that something, such as a large celestial body, is affecting the seismicity of the earth among other measurable and plausible affects on the earth and our system. I don't think it's fear mongering to be aware of the changing environment and to and explore in all of the possibilities.
Peace

[Billy]

I hope you're right, but there appears to be a lot of evidence indicating that something, such as a large celestial body, is affecting the seismicity of the earth among other measurable and plausible affects on the earth and our system. I don't think it's fear mongering to be aware of the changing environment and to and explore in all of the possibilities.
Peace

As they say, Have no fear be prepared ;)

[crosby]

just an aside here: all of us here at avalon know that a report does not need to be sanctioned by the mainstream media to be valid. some of us embrace the msm for the reports that they create because it helps us with our sleeping loved and dear ones. this is just a reminder for all of you that think we're only believers if we read it or hear it in the msm.

in this case, it states obviously that this is shared information from people across the globe. it also states that "the best iReports get vetted and used on CNN platforms". in my opinion, this is an excellent way to get the information out across the board. if enough people generate responses and like the thread, it can be used as an excellent resource tool to help wake people up.
regards, corson

[Billy]

I thought this article was quite informative.

http://truthfrequencynews.com/?p=6449

[Bryn ap Gwilym]

This should give folk a better insight into what an iReport (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IReport) is.

I would imagine that someone from CNN has given the story a once over & has rubber stamped it with their indorsement / endorsement?

did you not read your own link ? Submissions are not edited, fact-checked, or screened.[1]

Yes I read it.

The chances are that after 5+ days it would have been checked.
Guaranteed someone would have reported it.

[RMorgan]

I thought this article was quite informative.

http://truthfrequencynews.com/?p=6449

Excellent information. Thank you Billy. :)

[beyondmyctrl]

This should give folk a better insight into what an iReport (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IReport) is.

I would imagine that someone from CNN has given the story a once over & has rubber stamped it with their indorsement / endorsement?

did you not read your own link ? Submissions are not edited, fact-checked, or screened.[1]

Yes I read it.

The chances are that after 5+ days it would have been checked.
Guaranteed someone would have reported it.

Perhaps, but then if they did they certainly couldn't take it off the website because could you Imagine all the conspiracy theories that would've poppep up over that one :)

[Rocky_Shorz]

waking someone up needs to be done a little more gently...

you don't want your family looking around for tall buildings to jump from...

before they start, prepare them that it is fictional... Disclaimer... don't believe one word on this page...

enough to keep them on the ground, but will get them past the point of wonder and into the want to know more...


some people don't react to well when alarm clocks start going off in their heads... lol

[Providence]

waking someone up needs to be done a little more gently...

you don't want your family looking around for tall buildings to jump from...

before they start, prepare them that it is fictional... Disclaimer... don't believe one word on this page...

enough to keep them on the ground, but will get them past the point of wonder and into the want to know more...


some people don't react to well when alarm clocks start going off in their heads... lol

I appreciate what your saying, and every person/circumstance must be judged accordingly, but I don't think that people/sheeple in general are that fragile. If they were, I would have lost a lot of my family and friends already...

;)

[Thefrenzy1978]

Elenin has just flown by stereo b and its still working it was a very close pass i for one don't think there's nothing to worry about yet but still keeping a watchful eye on it.

[thunder24]

Their are no Sheeple. Uneducated maybe, not sheeple. All are needed.

peace