Comet Elenin, C/2010 X1

[spiritguide]

I guess the next best thing to the internet is to hang out at truck stops for the straight skinny..... If I demise so be it, if I don't I'll help wherever needed! Despair and fear are not my game and will never be. Universal law dictates...common sense provides and rumor is folly without knowledge. IMHO :peace:

[White Rabbit]

ghostrider, could you be a little more specific, please? Where did you get this info and what does it have to do with massive military movements in the US?

OK, found info on the Clilean power outage: http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/site/?pageid=event_desc&edis_id=PW-20110925-32435-CHL

4.8 mag EQ in Siberia, accounted for: http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/read/index.php?pageid=seism_read&rid=211625

Now what about the others in your list?

Adding my two cents here re the cell towers, http://www.ktla.com/news/landing/ktla-att-cellphone-outage-sept-24,0,3773807.story

There also was that "human error" issue that caused a part of the western US to be dark... that info has already been posted elsewhere. The 1000+ cell tower was labeled as another "oopsy".... yeah well there are too many "oopsies" lately.

[crosby]

[QUOTE=truthseekerdan;317349]Perhaps this is one of the many reasons why, Viking.

Tunnels to at least 13 underground bases being sealed off

"At least 13 very powerful underground explosions rocked the United States Midwest in the last 48 hours. They registered as small shallow earthquakes with the USGS. Many of the underground high explosive detonations registered as 2.6 magnitude earthquakes.

The U.S. military is said to be sealing off the tunnels so that the Globalists and the U.S. ghost government (Federal Reserve Bankers, FEMA, DHS, CIA) can’t run and hide from what is predicted to occur within 48 hours of September 27, 2011."

Source: http://dancingczars.wordpress.com/2011/09/23/tunnels-to-at-least-13-underground-bases-being-sealed-off/


i knew that i felt something weird going on the other night. i felt the same thing that i felt the day of the virginia "quake". only not so intense. i have a feeling that there may be something very evil about too occur. has anybody considered a coup d'etat? it is certainly possible. just an opinion though.
regards, corson

[Guest]

Hallo,

I live in Southern California. Yesterday, I was driving North on I-15 to the I-215 to the 60 East, all inland freeways. There was a large military, Army convoy driving North-East on those freeways, they had to pull over -there was too much traffic and they were slowing it way down. There has been a lot more military helicopter activity all hours of the day too in the SoCal region.

Also -on Sept. 8-9th there was massive black out affecting W. Arizona and all of SoCal from Orange county, San Diego Co. and parts of Mexico. There were major problems people panicked ran out of fuel stranded on the highways, lots of car accidents, people were going to the local EMS (EmergencySystems) and begging for diesel fuel, grocery stores were filled w/people and there was much civil unrest -shootouts in the cities. It was a mess -over an 8 hour blk out.

I know a lot of people in traditional circles here in the US and for quite a while now their prayers and ceremonys' for our earth and her people have become more frequent, intense, more depth to them much much more heart.

Also noticed while i was trying to post some relatively sticky stuff -that i got bumped off....

Nora

we are all related

[MorningSong]

I have been as nervous as crap-o-la today...... maybe the date and all the weirdo predictions for the next few days has something to do with it.

[Nanoo Nanoo]

Been looking around...many believe something is about to go ...big time!!

quote Bill

I may be wrong, but there are a lot of data points which suggest a major event, possibly on the west coast, before mid-October and maybe before the end of September.

Kerry met someone a couple of weeks ago, quite by accident, who was the admin assistant of a powerful woman in LA who was called by her insider husband elsewhere in the country telling her to get out of California by the end of September.

I myself had earlier rebooked my flight to leave California early in the morning of 30 September, based on nothing but very strong intuition. We also heard from Jake Simpson last night, present at Kerry's conference, who said that "there might be a little more time than that" - although he is NOT a reliable source of information.


The government is moving equipment, troops, and resources all across this country in large numbers. Is the USA planning for some type of coming event? Could it be Elenin? or the collapse of our economy? or a coming superquake? Who knows for sure, but one thing is for certain. They are moving and the public is seeing it. With the internet it's hard to not see the mass postings about it.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqB8_tWGGII

http://www.truthwinds.com/siterun_data/government/new_world_order/news.php?q=1316820186

What's cooking guys??

viking


If that was a real craft it was humanoid military craft.. true Alien craft does not fly linear in that config ..

[nearing]

Peace to you all.

This is the time we have been waiting for.

[Ernie Nemeth]

Do not give into the fear. Fear is the mind killer. Prepare, be aware, and trust your own instincts.
I am not going to die now, I promise you that.
You do not have to either.
Do what feels right.
Protect you and yours.
God speed Avalon!

[Calz]

I think I would be scared to death if I lived in the US now......:behindsofa:

I do and I have no fear at all.

Been waiting for this to surface for a long long time.

Have a couple months of food, water and basic supplies ... whatever will be will be.

[jagman]

tonight's show
1am - 5am ET
10pm - 2am PT
Spontaneous Human Combustion/ Comet Elenin
Tue 09-27
First Half: Researcher Larry Arnold will report on a new spontaneous human combustion case in Ireland.

2nd Half: Scientist, filmmaker, and mystic ecologist David Sereda talks about NASA and comet Elenin.
http://www.kfiam640.com/mediaplayer/
In case you want to listen tonight

[Bright Garlick]

Hello Agape - yes, yes and yes.

No sense of connectedness comes from further division and believing lies and delusion. Don't know mind has been squeezed out of existence for a mind full of fantasy.

Awake and aware comes in each moment, not via the conduits of the wayless who cannot see their own asses let alone what is in front of them.

The TRUTH is a many faceted chimera.

What is coming and has come starts with the heart. ET's (as you know)) wait patiently as they have done for all human time.

Light can only be seen through Darkness.

Peace to all, Bright. :tongue1:

[passiglight]

THEY manage,,,,it is their contract,,,,,,,

some do not adhere to the code of the contract,,,,,

cosmic love

[Agape]

Their abstract. Their contract . Their never-ending story ..Their beam of blue light , their supreme emptiness . Their truth, their enlightenment . They are you , you are them , they are us .

One day you know and there's but One Day . The night is over ..this is the Dawn of New Millenium .

And I'm here just for a while .



In the face of Truth human world might turn to ashes .



That's the power of the truth ,


and the powder of me




:plane:

[aviators]

OK Avalon update. This object is still there. No one here has had any more info on this large dark object. According to Mr Cometwatch it is in the position of Elenin on JPL model website. I still think it will probably turn out to be one of our neighboring planets. But nobody here seems to know?:confused: Hope someone here has more info.

Here is a video from today.

Stay tuned..


HBjPhelIbes

[Kamikaze]

Knew it was a messenger.. Only getting confirmation.

Take a look at this image

http://www.supertorchritual.com/underground/images/11b/Elenin-penta-orbit-code.gif

Read the article if you want to in-depth details of what is quite interesting things about all this clockwork..

http://www.goroadachi.com/etemenanki/elenin.htm

Following the patterns we can probably get a date when things are to get interesting.
I've been following and waiting for each time a new update from there. I'm surely not disappointed with their work.

[RMorgan]

Oh God....Lucifer´s comet...That one is new for me.

[Aryslan]

Isn't Elenin gone? Didn't it disintegrate a week ago, or something? Also, I think this forum has had quite enough of dates lately, no offense intended.

[Ammit]

We should stop thinking of or looking at dates now, look at the data and make up your own mind...

[modwiz]

Knew it was a messenger.. Only getting confirmation.

Take a look at this image

http://www.supertorchritual.com/underground/images/11b/Elenin-penta-orbit-code.gif



Read the article if you want to in-depth details of what is quite interesting things about all this clockwork..

http://www.goroadachi.com/etemenanki/elenin.htm

Following the patterns we can probably get a date when things are to get interesting.
I've been following and waiting for each time a new update from there. I'm surely not disappointed with their work.

Goroadachi has some of the best graphics on the web. A beauty to behold. Interesting reading too. I am not plunking any money down for it though. (Not buying it)

[lslimerick]

Kamikaze, what do you think it all means - I have looked through it but a little confussed as it talks about the birth of a royal child etc, what has that to do with it all or are the Occult using this for their game also?

[Kamikaze]

Well the occults usually like to tie their things in with something, we might have found the clock they use. Or just use this particular clock that was always there as it has a meaning going way back.

On another point the phoenix rising thing, birth quakes etc. Well there is gonna be a birth at one point.. and if Japan was the water going... And following the points we should be able to arrive at a date when we should get that birth if things follow through.

[the trojan]

that was great to read and hey,another date..29th of something or other....no seriously I was in a shop t'other day and i could not figure out the date and had to ask the girl and even though she stated that it was 2011 i insisted it was 2004 and wrote 2004 down,she calmly took the reciept from me and wrote the real date down.....one of those things eh?

[stegosaur]

Thanks for sharing. What I find to be very interesting is this: I know of two illuminati whistle blowers (1) Leo Zagami and (2) John Todd. I've read the transcript of PC's interview with Leo. One of the big things I came away with was how obsessed the vatican is with observing celestial alignments. According to Zagami they use their observatory in SW USA to look for various 'signs' or alignments and then manufacture events accordingly. The information I read about John Todd was about how obsessed with the occult every secret society is, that and their worship of Lucifer.

Now, we have this little gem which seems to unite both facets of the illuminati whistleblower testimony. Pentagrams galore in orbital patterns coincide with dates where announcements/occurrences took place. (Read the detailed explanation - it's quite amazing)

Personally I think there is too much coincidence to ignore here. I don't think we should expect an imminent disaster based upon any of these alignments. From a scientific POV the notion that Elenin could directly cause an EQ is pure rubbish. However, that doesn't mean Elenin isn't to be taken lightly in the sense it seems more and more likely that these orbital positions, combined with world events that those who are 'awake' understand aren't random occurrences but rather orchestrated events manipulated by the hidden power structure on this planet, are signals to those in the 'know' i.e. high level secret society/occult members. Personally I wouldn't be surprised if it's a message to somehow begin the world wide coordination it will take between all of the secret societies to begin their manufactured 'end times' scenario that's designed to bring about the NWO - one world government. Clearly these are my personal musings, and I'd love to hear what y'all think.

[Lord Sidious]

The pentagram only has a negative meaning because people put that on it.
Finding out what it really is might help.
I would say less harm has come from people with that on them than the cross.
No offense intended, but the pentagram is NOT a satanic symbol.

[BrianEn]

The right side up pentagram is a symbol of protection. I have one in my doorway.

[nearing]

Their abstract. Their contract . Their never-ending story ..Their beam of blue light , their supreme emptiness . Their truth, their enlightenment . They are you , you are them , they are us .

One day you know and there's but One Day . The night is over ..this is the Dawn of New Millenium .

And I'm here just for a while .



In the face of Truth human world might turn to ashes .



That's the power of the truth ,


and the powder of me




:plane:

Profound & sublime.

[conk]

The pentagram only has a negative meaning because people put that on it.
Finding out what it really is might help.
I would say less harm has come from people with that on them than the cross.
No offense intended, but the pentagram is NOT a satanic symbol.

Just like the symbol co-opted by the Nazis. We now ascribe a meaning to it that was not conceived until they began to use it.

[Agape]

Peace from inside, peace in outside ...your neverending story ..my supreme emptiness ..

The secret is ..you can only know truth in Peace . Not in mad state of mind , unless of course you claim to know the truth in all states of mind .

Truly , our essence is 'kuntu zangpo' . Our heart knows no evil ..

The rules are known to everyone but very few can really follow . So there's secrecy ..


Remember ? There are thousands and millions of things yet undiscovered in the depth of this Universe and beyond ..


There are messages sent between our worlds, yours and mine ..but not all fall to right places, seeds do not grow on baren grounds .



It's a madman talking or could be Guru Rimpoche



Could be a squirrel or a butterfly

what says we don't know, sorry

you may forget but do not die

in never ending story




:alien:

[Agape]

That's called time-travel you know ..i send information 4000 light years back to Guru Rimpoche . It makes only about , well, some 1500 earth years .
I get reply in no time is what you call time dilatation.

There's biological time, physical ( planetary, Star, Galaxy time ) and then there are alternative space-time fields.

I send an information plus neutrino beam and get reply .

You isolate 6 neutrinos in huge machine and think you know something better ..



;)

[Steve C]

Hi all,

Found a vid on 2012,this guy is very optimistic that there will be no catastrophies and he also states there is no Nibiru/planet X.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8g6llLf6Yw&feature=related

[onawah]

Say "Hi" to Padmasambhava for me, Agape! :patsak: I think I was one of his Yogini friends in that lifetime.


That's called time-travel you know ..i send information 4000 light years back to Guru Rimpoche . It makes only about , well, some 1500 earth years .
I get reply in no time is what you call time dilatation.

There's biological time, physical ( planetary, Star, Galaxy time ) and then there are alternative space-time fields.

I send an information plus neutrino beam and get reply .

You isolate 6 neutrinos in huge machine and think you know something better ..



;)

[Lord Sidious]

The pentagram only has a negative meaning because people put that on it.
Finding out what it really is might help.
I would say less harm has come from people with that on them than the cross.
No offense intended, but the pentagram is NOT a satanic symbol.

Just like the symbol co-opted by the Nazis. We now ascribe a meaning to it that was not conceived until they began to use it.

I can guarantee that no one on this site knows what that symbol meant to them, except me.
I am going to be talking about that too.
It isn't what you think and they never ''corrupted'' it or anything.

[Kamikaze]

I'm interested to know the details as well regarding that. So do share.

[Agape]

Do you remember your name that time Onawah ?

Khandro ...ehm..ehmmm...cough ..getting older ..




:angel:

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Please ignore that posting ...:haha:

[Agape]

These people are who basically, can you enlighten me please ?

Are they all watching parliament ? Sky news ?


;)

¤=[Post Update]=¤

I'm lost in time and who knows what's on the other side of the tunnel eh


:alien:

[Lord Sidious]

I'm interested to know the details as well regarding that. So do share.

Not yet, you will have to wait.

[Fred Steeves]

No offense intended, but the pentagram is NOT a satanic symbol.

True, so long as it's not inverted.

[Lord Sidious]

No offense intended, but the pentagram is NOT a satanic symbol.

True, so long as it's not inverted.

Think about the discussion we had the other day.
Do you really think it means anything what way up it is?
Or is it about the intent of the individual?

[Autumn]

More research. In some of the esoteric Lucifer is Venus and nothing to do with the christian devil. Maybe disinfo began more than 2000 years ago? The ecoteric says it did ... well, right now I'm trying to forget everything I was ever tought in order to learn all that I was never meant to know. When christianity (or any monotheistic religion) presents any part of a/the solution I back off and remind myself why my dad fought so hard to teach me to think for myself. Lucifers comet? And the pentagram (earth energy and reversed another energy or something unchristian like that) is just more disinfo from a shallow, jealous, petty and vengefull (but mercifull if you do as he says) God ... I'm back at square one = more research so that I may lay the foundation for a well based theory of my own - ready to change if better founded research point me in another direction.

[Fred Steeves]

No offense intended, but the pentagram is NOT a satanic symbol.

True, so long as it's not inverted.

Think about the discussion we had the other day.
Do you really think it means anything what way up it is?
Or is it about the intent of the individual?

Oh boy, what have I gotten meself into here...A deep conversation with shallow amounts of time...Getting ready to head out first thing tomorrow for a long road trip. My two quick answers would be yes, and yes. :) Both have a certain energetic resonance.

Cheers,
Fred

[BrianEn]

No offense intended, but the pentagram is NOT a satanic symbol.

True, so long as it's not inverted.


As far as I know that is true. By inverting you are in fact reversing its effect. I have kept an upright one in my doorway for many months now and have had no ill effects from it. I feel safer with it there.

[Omni]

I am doing research profiles on various people, and I happened to do one on Wernher von Braun tonight for my research forum profile section(in sig), and stumbled across some possibly pertinent info worthy of being discussed. I apologize if this has been discussed already. I have avoided ELEnin stuff since day numero uno... Given avalons general intelligence I could see it being mentioned already, but I have not seen a thread for it, and it's worth its own thread IMHO discussing it under this angle as on topic, rather than some other ones IMHO.

Profile: Former Nazi/USA Scientist Dr. Wernher von Braun (Prophetic WhistleBlower - and very historic figure in both the conspiracy world and the science world - read more about him far below for my profile of him that is a work in progress)

One of his claims was this:

A malicious transnational group that has oppressive plans to form a one world government by using these steps in the fear categories(for one reason drum up never ending funds for space weapons/the military industrial complex)

1. An Evil Russian fear monger ✔
2. A Terrorist fearmonger ✔
3. ASTEROIDS / METEOR fear monger. (first bell goes DING[for me anyway])

and the 4th most of us know... Alien threat fear monger(which I'm not sure they can pull off fully honestly).

As a student of NLP and subliminal programming it has opened doors to me, understandings of things I was missing before. Reality is like the matrix green coding screen in ways, yet we only see one code at a time(one dimensionally) quite frequently. NLP opened a new coding channel for me to be aware about and added correlative processes that are beneficial to me...

Anyway, add Wernhers awesome contribution to humanity, fear monger #3, an asteroid / meteor threat, and with NLP/subliminal programming in mind:

ELEnin

E.L.E = Extinction Level Event.

Wernher von Braun Asteroid fear monger agenda whistleblow + NLP awareness + ELE in ELEnin = something may be up here. :)

Honestly I hate to say it Avalon but usually when TPTB does something like a massive psy op, they succeed. They are not idiots they are the opposite. The are only spiritually bankrupt not intellectually.

These are the factors I witness for ELEnin.


1. Subliminal Programming and/or NLP - E.L.E(nin) Extinction Level Event- aka Fear Death subliminals with a correlative NLP tie to asteroids to fearing death, perhaps even tied to the genetic collective mind of mankind due to enough of a energetic rut in such(if it exists).

2. Discredits legitimate conspiracy to science heads when they see NASA trash uneducated opinions.

3. Creates a ton of hype and distractions. If the alternative/conspiracy community put the effort we apply to the latest hyped up engineered garbage distraction(not specifically saying that for ELEnin), into something productive, perhaps we'd accomplish some things worth being proud of.

4. Re-enforces the 3rd step of the fear monger ladder von Braun provided us with. Puts asteroids etc on people's mind. Every single asteroid that passes that is not like halle bopp, creates a fear in the public for armageddon(prob even Halle Bopp). I strongly suspect the US government zipping over to a belt of some sort and manufacturing events like ELEnin given how effective it is at distracting people perhaps even planting purposely placed conspiracy flags like what I heard about the guy Elenin not existing(makes sense to me but not something I'd say exists for sure). Avalon has/had it's ELEnin to distract, Nexus has it's atticus1 thread. And of course all the divisiveness in the past. All the while a lot of members boast about how TPTB is idiotic I see on these sites. lol. I dislike it more than anyone I've met but they are not idiotic... They if given enough time can fool anyone IMHO. Most don't like hearing that but we have physical brains and also have predictable NLP matrixes, also queriable programming from dreams mind surveillance, etc.

I will stop there. I may add more as I think of them(ELEnin tactics I can detect).

Similar to ELEnin to me a little: 2012 hype. It's multidimensional, but it's definitely a chance to do some societal engineering and TPTB don't pass opportunities like that up... And also been fear mongered a bit(2012). Also a tactic I detect is complacency in people who may be more motivated otherwise because "2012 will be my Jesus" type thing going on...... :confused: Oh and you have the Jesus believers who Jesus will save them, and don't need to do a dam thing 'cuz the sinners r goin ta hell'. Then you have the galactic federation of light who will save those people so they don't have to do jack to help shift the paradigm if they logically follow their belief and apply it to action :confused: , then you have others who don't give a dam... Then you have the rabid skeptics waiting for any discredit crumbs for the alphabet agencies to set up(but they dont know it they are on an ego charade)... Whos left? Well we aren't alone but I see through these tactics like I can see through air (with a natural mind) ... I don't think TPTB can win the bigger battle but I see them win all sorts of small ones all the time...

Anyway I'll end it at that. Here is my research profile so far on Wernher von Braun. If anyone has anything to add to the profile for him, I'd be happy to see it :)

Carol Rosin's testimony in video linked below(speaking of what von Braun told her).

Wanting the disillusionment and (relative)unity of mankind,
-Omni

________________________



Wernher von Braun Ph.D
Germany/USA
Inducted in 1976






Wernher von Braun was born in Wirsitz, Germany, (now Wyrzysk, Poland) on March 23, 1912. ... In 1920, his family moved to Berlin when their hometown became part of Poland after World War I. Wernher von Braun earned a Bachelor's Degree in Aeronautical Engineering in 1932 from the Berlin Institute of Technology. He received a Ph. D. in Physics two years later from the University of Berlin. Von Braun did not excell in school until he was thirteen, when he read The Rocket into Interplanetary Space by rocket pioneer Hermann Oberth. The next year his mother gave him his first telescope and he soon decided to devote his life to rocketry and the exploration of space.




By the 1930's, the German government became highly interested in the military development of rockets, and in pursuit of his dream to build rockets capable of taking man into space, Wernher von Braun began working for the army in 1932. Soon the Nazi government built a large facility for secret rocket development on the Baltic Sea at Peenemünde, a location chosen partly on von Braun's recommendation.
With the outbreak of World War II in 1939, he began to develop a long-range ballistic missile, the A-4 (later renamed the V-2 for "Retaliation/Vengeance Weapon 2"). As von Braun freely admitted after the war, much of the V-2 design was directly borrowed from the writings of the American rocket scientist Robert Goddard. On October 3, 1942, an experimental A-4 became the first manmade object to reach "technical" outer space, rocketing to an altitude of 50 miles.
Ironically, Wernher von Braun had been arrested by the Gestapo for "defeatism" in March 1944, and was imprisoned for two weeks until Hitler released him to continue producing V-2s. As Nazi Germany collapsed in the spring of 1945, von Braun was ordered to destroy all documents relating to the rocketry program. He disobeyed, hiding the papers in an abandoned mine in the Harz Mountains, where he later retrieved them.
In less than three years, Dr. von Braun's rocket team produced America's first ballistic missile, the Redstone, by expanding on the basic design of the V-2, and on August 1953, the first Redstone rocket was tested at Cape Canaveral, Florida.
On July 1, 1960, Dr. von Braun's Army team was transferred to the National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA), as the core of the new Marshall Space Center in Huntsville. As the center's first director, von Braun continued to oversee the development of ever-larger rockets for the Apollo program, America's mission to land a man on the moon. Beginning in 1961, his team built the Saturn I, the largest rocket ever built at the time, in 1966, the Saturn IB, the rocket that launched the Apollo spacecraft into earth orbit, and finally, the massive Saturn V, the rocket that in 1969 landed Apollo 11 on the Moon.
On March 13, 1970, Wernher von Braun became NASA's Deputy Associate Administrator for Planning. In June 1972, after NASA's budget had been greatly reduced, he retired to become vice-present of Fairchild Industries. In 1975 he helped establish the National Space Institute. The author of two popular books, Conquest of the Moon (1953), and Space Frontier (1967), Dr. Wernher von Braun died of cancer in Alexandria, Virginia on June 16, 1977. Though his important role in Hitler's war machine will forever cloud his legacy, many believe that, without Wernher von Braun, America would have landed men on the Moon much later, if at all. The von Braun crater on the moon is named for him.Source: http://www.nmspacemuseum.org/halloffame/detail.php?id=29


Von Braun did an interview with a colleague Carol Rosin where he spoke of a process by the military industrial complex to demonize extraterrestrials in a false flag invasion via space weapons, and in effect permeate a never ending fear based fudning of the military industrial complex in the process. That is just the end game of the plan. He described a oppressive one world government, the use of terrorists by the military industrial complex to milk as much money as possible and war and agendas etc, then asteroids, then aliens.

This rang a big bell when I uncovered it in my research because I have been impersonated supposed extraterrestrials(facades in this single case of contact type), and posed them as evil to me. Posed evil reptilians, posed evil greys, posed evil sirians, etc. Some could be real. That is very possible. But I have found large flaws in that mind controlled reality I was in for some time... So my own experiences directly with the groups with space weapons corroborates Carol Rosin's testimony. Reptilians are scapegoats quite possibly(not saying there are no bad ones in the universe or galactic region). I do believe humans decide the destiny of earth(not saying we all do at times)....

A (high quality I may add)video of Carol Rosin speaking of this(who seems like a credible witness):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CaTgOSHbBEI


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According to Dr. Rosin, von Braun then gave her one supreme assignment to thwart this plan: to stop the weaponization of space. Failure to do so would lead to calamity for the human race as a secretive trans-national power, already in existence, would move to permanently take control of this planet thru a hoaxed alien invasion from outer space. Plans change. This transnational power could have put off a staged alien invasion. In the 70's staged things were very easy to pull off. What are you going to do? Phone everyone this info in the USA? lol. But now with stuff like twitter.com, facebook.com, myspace.com, flickr.com, Google.com Yahoo.com. Scroogle.com, etcetc and all the other networking sites, hiding things got a whole lot harder. Perhaps enough people are totally ignorant and they can hide such big plans in plain site.

Given the current atmosphere and history, I do not think it's fully plausible to fake an alien invasion. Enough people know about it already, that there would be a HUGE social media outburst and a MASS organizing, and history like Wernher von Braun simply cannot be deleted from our society due to the internet in any event I can foresee(I don't think the sun will fry all our eelectronic personally in 2012)....

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According to von Braun, space based weapons, later known as the “Star Wars” program, were to be publicly promoted as our space “shield” against the evil Russians. Then they would be promoted as our defense against terrorists from Third World countries (‘rogue’ nations or ‘nations of concern’). Then their necessity would be justified as protection against asteroids and meteors, and the “last card,” the final justification according to von Braun, would be their installation in orbit against an extraterrestrial threat from outer space.So:

1. Evil Russians fear monger - ✔
2. Terrorists fear monger (and quite an agenda manifesting in this one I must say) ✔

3. Protection Against Asteroids or Meteors. On it's way. Hmmm Elenin? Correlation? Wouldn't be hard to grab a 4Km rock from the asteroid belt perhaps in a nice moon built UFO medium sized space craft. Just a random guess there not meant to be believed really, at least I don't. I don't have enough data on Elenin, I ignored the subject from day one. lol.

I do believe protection from asteroids or meteors is a great sell. If I didn't believe ETs had us covered there, I'd want to set up defenses for our solar system asap, or at least spend a ton on checking out space and making models to see if anything may hit us and see how much time we have. I mean if they can bug us and lock us in jail and have politicians try to get cannabis growers executed... And if the military is reallllly that interested in protecting life of their country, it makes sense to dedicate resources to protect earth from asteroids etc. But like anything, just about everything can be used for dark purposes.

And finally:

4. ET Threat.

More:

Von Braun told Dr. Rosin that she would begin to notice a certain “spin” on the news, which would illustrate the need to build space-based weaponry because our enemies “might” have these weapons, so our intelligence community would proceed on the assumption that they DO have these weapons. As we now know, this is exactly how the Star Wars program transpired ✔.(interesting):

More importantly, von Braun told Dr. Rosin in 1974 that we already had the technology to build anti gravity vehicles and entire transportation systems which did not require so-called ‘fossil’ fuels but instead used “beams” of energy, thereby eliminating all pollution from these sources permanently. Perhaps Dr. von Braun had seen anti gravity vehicles with his own eyes in Germany before the end of the war, as wel l as their continued development at other secret technology sites afterwards.
Von Braun further told Dr. Rosin that we had the ability to transform our “war” based military/industrial complex into a space and energy industry for the benefit of all of humanity, and that we had the capability of building entirely nonpolluting transportation technologies using this same limitless energy, while ending the arms race without dislocating the jobs associated with it. Mankind could transition to a new industrial paradigm and usher in an era of peace, plenty and prosperity for everyone on Earth.Such is the universal design of things. Nothing is unaccounted for. Primitive evolutionary steps in both society and genetics. Once transcending caveman alpha male war syndrome of nature's pits of evolutionary hells, a race ascends into a more enlightened space age where it enters a potent stage of disillusionment perhaps(in my estimates anyway). It' the next major step for us that has been neglected to us for decades...

More:


Even Dr. Greer, who had brought Dr. Rosin to Washington D. C. to publicly testify about Dr. von Braun’s warning and concern for the future of humanity based upon the nefarious plans he had uncovered during his tenure at NASA, admits that he was at first skeptical of the reality behind this proposal.
Dr. Greer writes: “Since 1992 I have seen this script unveiled to me by at least a dozen well-placed insiders. Of course, initially I laughed, thinking this just too absurd and far-fetched…. and yet others told me explicitly that things that looked like UFOs, but that are built and under the control of deeply secretive ´black´ projects, were being used to simulate – hoax – ET-appearing events, including some abductions and cattle mutilations, to sow the early seeds of cultural fear regarding life in outer space. And that at some point after global terrorism, events would unfold that would utilize the now-revealed Alien Reproduction Vehicles (ARVs, or reversed-engineered UFOs made by humans by studying actual ET craft) to hoax an attack on Earth.”
The goal of this hoaxed space alien invasion was simple: control thru fear, to drive governments of all nations to submit and unite under one central authority, a One World Government, and as Dr. Greer said: “…to justify eventually spending trillions on space weapons… th us uniting the world in fear, in militarism and war.”
Of course, we have been purposely conditioned over the years to view any space aliens as threatening and predatory. Such films as “Independence Day,” “Alien”, “War of the Worlds” and others produced by Hollywood studios have had their effect on the subconscious mind of the general public. As Dr. Greer states: “…this mental conditioning to fear ET has been subtly reinforced for decades, in preparation for future deceptions.”Ending the first post:


Dr. Carol Rosin revealed this information before the national press in Washington, D.C. where she also said that she was willing to make the exact same statement under oath to Congress. Of course, the official main stream media never saw fit to make mention of this startling pronouncement by Dr. Rosin.Source: http://uncensored.co.nz/2010/06/01/werner-von-braun-and-the-hoaxed-alien-invasion-from-space/

If you have any more on Wernher von Braun please post it :)

[jsb_swampfox]

Good job Omni...as usual

[Calz]

I have tried to call into focus the "deathbed confession" asteroid link in a couple places as it bears attention.

Nowhere *near* as thoroughly or elegantly as you just have Omni :thumb:

Some think the technology exists to "bring them in" from earth as a weapon ... a projectile. Sounds reasonable to me.

Thanks for your great OP.

[nomadguy]

I think this is all Shakepeare-like subliminal programming. ~ "the world as a stage" ~

for example,
On the same day as the Elenin-bologna sandwich.

on Tuesday, September 27th, 2011, at 7:09 AM EDT.
On Tuesday morning, a new cycle begins. The Virgo New Moon cycle ends and the Libra New Moon cycle begins.
ref: http://www.cafeastrology.com/thisweekinastrology.html

So the idea of secret ceremonies and using the people's aroused energy comes to mind...

[jackovesk]

'Doomsday Comet' Elenin to swing by earth today (well, 22 million miles away)

16th October 2011

The 'Doomsday Comet' Elenin will make its closest approach to earth today, something conspiracy theorists have long feared.

The comet started breaking up in August after being blasted by a huge solar storm so tomorrow, when it comes to within 22 million miles of earth, it will be a stream of debris rather than an intact comet.

Astronomer Don Yeomans of the Near-Earth Object Programme Office at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena, California, told Space.com: 'Folks are having trouble finding it, so I think it's probably dead and gone.'

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/10/15/article-2049612-0E63CD2200000578-8_468x286.jpg
Doomsday comet: Elenin will pass by the earth tomorrow but will mainly consist of debris

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/10/15/article-2049612-0E63CD8E00000578-202_468x286.jpg
Journey: NASA today stepped in to try to allay baseless fears that a comet heading into the solar system from deep space will trigger disaster on Earth

That means anyone who wants to get a glimpse of the comet on Sunday will have to have their binoculars or telescopes out.

Previous rumours about Elenin said the comet was going to be a major threat to earth and set off havoc by causing major earthquakes and tsunamis.

Others said that Elenin was not a comet at all, but in fact a rogue planet called Nibiru that would bring about the end times on Earth.

But Mr Yeomans said that all these theories were nonsense: 'Elenin was a second-rate, wimpy little comet that never should have been noted for anything, really. t was not even a bright one.'

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/10/15/article-2049612-0E63D17100000578-525_468x286.jpg
Asteroid: One day after the Elenin flyby, the small asteroid 2009 TM8 will zip close by but, like Elenin, it poses no risk of striking earth

According to Space.com, Elenin's remains will not be the only objects about to make their closest pass of Earth.

One day after the Elenin flyby, the small asteroid 2009 TM8 will zip close by. Like Elenin, it poses no risk of striking earth.

Elenin was discovered by Russian astronomer Leonid Elenin in December 2010.
It never posed any threat to life on Earth, Mr Yeomans said. It was far too small to exert any appreciable influence on our planet unless it managed to hit us.

'Just driving to work every day in my subcompact car is going to have far more of a gravitational effect on Earth than this comet ever will,' he said.

Elenin's supposed connection to earthquakes was just a correlation, and a weak one at that, he added. There is nothing to worry about.

'It's time to move on to the next Armageddon,' he said

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2049612/Doomsday-Comet-Elenin-swing-earth-tomorrow-22million-miles-away.html

[Arrowwind]

So much fear mongering for naught.

I expect the same will happen regarding 2012.

I wonder how this fear might keep people from moving forward in their spiritual growth
and from working constructively on their lives?

[RMorgan]

I just wonder how many precious hours some people just lost posting endless threads and replying to topics related to this matter...

I wonder how many people were ridicule by their community and family, while talking about this Elenin doom event, as an absolute truth...

I wonder how many "pro-elenin doom" alternative media characters will apologize for this hoax, which was completely unfounded since the beginning...

Events like this will keep happening, and will gradually discredit the alternative media, until the point that, if something actually real regarding a huge global event comes to our knowledge, no one will believe it.

[jackovesk]

I just wonder how many precious hours some people just lost posting endless threads and replying to topics related to this matter...

I wonder how many people were ridicule by their community and family, while talking about this Elenin doom event, as an absolute truth...

I wonder how many "pro-elenin doom" alternative media characters will apologize for this hoax, which was completely unfounded since the beginning...

Events like this will keep happening, and will gradually discredit the alternative media, until the point that, if something actually real regarding a huge global event comes to our knowledge, no one will believe it.

I hear you RMorgan,

But the 'Saga' is 'Not Over' yet, Richard C.Hoagland thinks its a Huge Alien Spaceship tracking towards planet earth..!

[RMorgan]

I just wonder how many precious hours some people just lost posting endless threads and replying to topics related to this matter...

I wonder how many people were ridicule by their community and family, while talking about this Elenin doom event, as an absolute truth...

I wonder how many "pro-elenin doom" alternative media characters will apologize for this hoax, which was completely unfounded since the beginning...

Events like this will keep happening, and will gradually discredit the alternative media, until the point that, if something actually real regarding a huge global event comes to our knowledge, no one will believe it.

I hear you RMorgan,

But the 'Saga' is 'Not Over' yet, Richard C.Hoagland thinks its a Huge Alien Spaceship tracking towards planet earth..!

Hoagland...He should change his name for Hoaxland. :)

[ulli]

I hear you RMorgan,

But the 'Saga' is 'Not Over' yet, Richard C.Hoagland thinks its a Huge Alien Spaceship tracking towards planet earth..!



Now Hoagland, too. Too much fame can make one infamous.
Considering how long he has been around, and each year adding more fans
one might ask if the real threat to a person's soul isn't a huge fan base.
There is a certain dynamic at work here.
When you are a legend you have to produce legendary material.
Maybe his ideas are now coming from his followers, transferred
via telepathy.
The greatest thinkers guarded their identity by dying before worldwide fame struck.

[jackovesk]

I just wonder how many precious hours some people just lost posting endless threads and replying to topics related to this matter...

I wonder how many people were ridicule by their community and family, while talking about this Elenin doom event, as an absolute truth...

I wonder how many "pro-elenin doom" alternative media characters will apologize for this hoax, which was completely unfounded since the beginning...

Events like this will keep happening, and will gradually discredit the alternative media, until the point that, if something actually real regarding a huge global event comes to our knowledge, no one will believe it.

I hear you RMorgan,

But the 'Saga' is 'Not Over' yet, Richard C.Hoagland thinks its a Huge Alien Spaceship tracking towards planet earth..!

Hoagland...He should change his name for Hoaxland. :)

Hang on second RMorgan, what if Hoagland is right..???

So the 'Merry-Go-Round' continues..!!!

http://media.bigoo.ws/content/gif/objects/objects_237.gif

This is one Conspiracy 'Merry-Go-Round' I jumped off before it even got started..!

[Eric J (Viking)]

Hang on second RMorgan, what if Hoagland is right..???

So the 'Merry-Go-Round' continues..!!!

http://media.bigoo.ws/content/gif/objects/objects_237.gif

This is one Conspiracy 'Merry-Go-Round' I jumped off before it even got started..

Ha ha ....just had a very funny vision!!

How many 'hats' has Bill got...?

viking

[avid]

There have been so many 'fear dates' lately, including a giant bank-run (which is happening digitally as I write), that I go into the garden, look up at the chemtrails and think "it will never be so bad again - unless we let it... Meanwhile, don't watch TV, be aware and carpe diem (seize the day). If you are still riding on the crest of fear - let go and just live! :-)

[GlassSteagallfan]

I just got a 4.5 inch reflecting telescope from a yard sale. If Elenin is visible, can anyone tell me where to look for it? I'm near Albany NY

Thanks in advance.

[math330]

^
It's gone. Long, long gone. Unless you listen to Richard Hoagland.

[fox.mulder]

So much fear mongering for naught.

I expect the same will happen regarding 2012.

I wonder how this fear might keep people from moving forward in their spiritual growth
and from working constructively on their lives?

Its not fear mongering.......its people expressing their "opinions" and people using their "intuition"............................ha

[Sirius White]

wtf?

I never thought elenin was a doomsday comet?? I always saw it as a symbol. When the mass mind pays attention to something they divert and influence probabilities. In the quantum sense, on some timeline it did hit us. But I was never once worried about it. I think we've "avoided" so many end-of-the-world scenarios and very few people are aware of how much our mind influences the manifestations. I hate these "labels" like conspiracy theorists. I mean honestly, anybody who mentions alternative information is labeled as such these days.

There was NEVER an Armageddon to begin with! That opinion comes from religious indoctrination, conditioning and hogwash. To me Elenin coincides with MANY of the changes going on in the world today. But everybody ignores that because they are so materially focused. "Signs" are holographic synchronicity, a butterfly effect of seemingly unrelated events. Elenin was one such sign, and NO it has nothing to do with the end of the world.

[Malachi]

you know, there were a big fuss about possible great earthquakes and pole shift, even here on Avalon forum. nothing happened, but it is okay, Elenin was just a small rock in the sky.

but something is coming, I can feel it, not in the physical world but in the "great beyond", in the human spirit, there will be a great change but not catastrophic. or maybe, to te evil forces. it is good, everything is good. :)

[Unified Serenity]

I feel change coming as well. I truly believe no man knows the day or hour, and those who do make specific predictions just show how little they do know. We will know the season, and there is too much to happen first before the big change comes. It's getting close, but no way of knowing just how close, and in the timeline scheme of things it could easily be 5 or 50 years at least. One bible scripture has always stuck with me, and that is about the people returning to the land of Israel. Jesus said, that generation would not pass until all was completed. Biblically a generation could be 40 years, as in a generation in the desert, it could be 70 years as those of a righteous man's life, it could be 120 years as in the length given to man to live or it could be anywhere along that line. We passed the 40 year mark in 1988. So the next marker is 2018 for the 70 years.

I told people for years that the Berlin wall had to come down for prophecy to be accurate, and when it came down I felt one more marker had been ticked off my list of things to watch for and to know the season. Another big marker is the real one world leader, not some symbolic person like head of the United Nations. Of course, I think what we are seeing now is the set up for the one world leader to take office. That is still not the big change to our time of true equality and freedom. It may seem like it for a time, but it will get ugly very fast just as in the book, "Animal Farm". So, I feel no extreme concerns. I do believe in having a means to take care of my family in a disaster, and that's just common sense.

[Calz]

I just wonder how many precious hours some people just lost posting endless threads and replying to topics related to this matter...

I wonder how many people were ridicule by their community and family, while talking about this Elenin doom event, as an absolute truth...

I wonder how many "pro-elenin doom" alternative media characters will apologize for this hoax, which was completely unfounded since the beginning...

Events like this will keep happening, and will gradually discredit the alternative media, until the point that, if something actually real regarding a huge global event comes to our knowledge, no one will believe it.

I hear you RMorgan,

But the 'Saga' is 'Not Over' yet, Richard C.Hoagland thinks its a Huge Alien Spaceship tracking towards planet earth..!

What? What!!! :faint:

OMG ... don't tell me his 200 kajillion to 1 odds were correct after all???

E-iN3Oapfqg

[aranuk]

I just wonder how many precious hours some people just lost posting endless threads and replying to topics related to this matter...

I wonder how many people were ridicule by their community and family, while talking about this Elenin doom event, as an absolute truth...

I wonder how many "pro-elenin doom" alternative media characters will apologize for this hoax, which was completely unfounded since the beginning...

Events like this will keep happening, and will gradually discredit the alternative media, until the point that, if something actually real regarding a huge global event comes to our knowledge, no one will believe it.

Yes, Cry wolf. nuf said

Stan

[Arrowwind]

So much fear mongering for naught.

I expect the same will happen regarding 2012.

I wonder how this fear might keep people from moving forward in their spiritual growth
and from working constructively on their lives?


Its not fear mongering.......its people expressing their "opinions" and people using their "intuition"............................ha

Welp then, so much for opinions and so much for intuition

[Cartomancer]

I think this should be a lesson to us all. Rarely have I seen the amount of hype that surrounded this comet passing. I'm glad it's over. Peace everyone.

[stardustaquarion]

Hoaxland is an excellent sumation....

There are other hoaxsters to be debunk...take Kerry Cassidy, who has behemently promoted hoaxland and Ashayana Deane. Do you know where is Kerry Cassidy today? with her chum Ashayana in a US$ 10,000 all paid trip to India. Who says that disinformation does not pay?

I wish Kerry never did the video with Ashayana Deane. Is only because of Kerry's endorsement that I got myself tangled on that one. Of course I should have known better but I left myself being lead by Kerry's endorsement of the material. Oh well it can not be helped, at least I have my eyes wide open now and I am free from all the keylontic nonsciences

:hurt:

[Bill Ryan]

-------

I did a calculation a little while ago, which was quite fun. If Planet Earth was a car bowling along a freeway, Elenin would be an extremely tiny fly -- 8 miles away. The idea that that distant fly (which has now died!) could ever have an effect on the car is pure fantasy. And if it were a messenger... it's not a very good one.

Other dates will come and go as well: Some folks in Vlcabamba are having an end-of-the-world party on 28 October, to which I suggested holding a wait-a-minute-it's-not-the-end-of-the-world-after-all party the day after. :)

And on 12 November, we'll all wake up realizing that the world's suffering population is all still here, and that nothing remarkable at all has occurred. One of these days we will learn... and then all get to work. What we've been witnessing is Elitist New Age Escapism, which is almost as damaging a distorted belief system as any other religion.

[jorr lundstrom]

Bill wrote:


I suggested holding a wait-a-minute-it's-not-the-end-of-the-world-after-all
party the day after.

I love this Bill, thats the spirit. LOL

http://i600.photobucket.com/albums/tt81/sakasvattaja/Babajimbge.jpg

[Seikou-Kishi]

Other dates will come and go as well: Some folks in Vlcabamba are having an end-of-the-world party on 28 October, to which I suggested holding a wait-a-minute-it's-not-the-end-of-the-world-after-all party the day after. :)


Good for them. Maybe they're just following that old maxim, "live like you'll die tomorrow, plan like you'll forever". How many of these people who are going to this end of the world party have had their electricity disconnected? lol

[cloud9]

Hoaxland is an excellent sumation....

There are other hoaxsters to be debunk...take Kerry Cassidy, who has behemently promoted hoaxland and Ashayana Deane. Do you know where is Kerry Cassidy today? with her chum Ashayana in a US$ 10,000 all paid trip to India. Who says that disinformation does not pay?

I wish Kerry never did the video with Ashayana Deane. Is only because of Kerry's endorsement that I got myself tangled on that one. Of course I should have known better but I left myself being lead by Kerry's endorsement of the material. Oh well it can not be helped, at least I have my eyes wide open now and I am free from all the keylontic nonsciences

:hurt:

Hi stardustaquarion,
I think there's something off with your post... I remember very well when the interview came out, you were already a great fan of Ashayana and one her best defenders, many people told you, including me that her stuff wasn't right etc. etc and you were very upset with everybody who questioned the material. Not that matters now but please don't say you were into it because of Kerry, you were into it way before that.

Now, as I understand, Kerry didn't endorsed the material then, she did an interview, on the other hand you endorsed the material giving links all the time to AD web site and talking about how her material had helped you, etc. etc.

You can argue that Kerry is endorsing AD now because of their trip together but it wasn't the case then.

Anyway, I feel all of us have been lead to many things because we want to believe and I'm not outside of it. When the Blossom Goodchild date came out I told many people about it because I really believed it was possible, after that I learned my lesson and now my position is "wait and see". Same with Elenin, I never believed a bit of it for the same reasons Bill explain.

Good day
cloud

[jcocks]

Even if things change after one of those dates mentioned - will we even notice?

I think part of our problem is that we're looking for the wrong things in the wrong directions....

[eric charles]

So much for Hoaglands Alien mothership theory hihihihi , man with People like Hoagland and Fullford and Willcock et al making stuff up like this , deals a severe blow to us in the alternative community trying to make sense of all that is going on , makes us look like a bunch of crackers !!

[NASA]

http://solarsystem.nasa.gov/multimedia/gallery/cometElenin_160X1201.jpg (http://solarsystem.nasa.gov/news/display.cfm?News_ID=38823)25 Oct 2011 - NASA Says Comet Elenin Gone and Should Be Forgotten
Comet Elenin is no more.


More... (http://solarsystem.nasa.gov/news/display.cfm?News_ID=38823)

[Ilie Pandia]

Read here: NASA Says Comet Elenin Gone and Should Be Forgotten (http://solarsystem.nasa.gov/news/display.cfm?News_ID=38823).

[gigha]

I guess that makes it official then!!! :p

[jorr lundstrom]

Wot a pity

[nearing]

If NASA says it, it must be true. LOL.

Anyway, it was only a sign, a signal of something greater coming behind according to certain legends, right? Go back to the tv and video games, folks, nothing to see here.

:whistle:

[Carmody]

quote from article:

"I cannot begin to guess why this little comet became such a big Internet sensation," said Yeomans. "The scientific reality is this modest-sized icy dirtball's influence upon our planet is so incredibly minuscule that my subcompact automobile exerts a greater gravitational influence on Earth than the comet ever would. That includes the date it came closest to Earth (Oct. 16), when the comet's remnants got no closer than about 22 million miles (35.4 million kilometers)."

But it disturbed the electric charge distribution of the solar system, in the ecliptic plane.

And the electrical charge is 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 times stronger than gravity. That's 1 trillion trillion trillion times stronger than gravity (39 magnitudes stronger).

like a weak spot in a balloon being the point that when the pressure is too high...that this weak spot is the place the hole on the balloon begins..in the same way the charge disturbance of the solar system, by this Elenin------- is now in line with the earth.

So if a CME were to decide to happen and be a strong one, then it could follow the debris path, this charge differential path. For it is the weak point - now. Like a shotgun barrel aimed right at us.

[Ilie Pandia]

Carmody,

If such a small object can create such a big electrical problem, this must hold true for all other small objects that pass through our solar system. Taking this into account... why would Elenin be special in any way?

[Carmody]

It is in the ecliptic, or the 'plane' of the solar system. It is a potential, nothing else.

This... the trail of debris, or charge change trail ....is right in line with us, between us and the sun. Like a big fat gas cloud of charge change differential, a long string for a 'lightning strike' to flow down.

The danger period is now, regarding peak conditions.

This, at the same time this other disturbance comes along, this other one the 2005 YU55.

http://neo.jpl.nasa.gov/images/2005_YU55_approach_movie.gif

I'm not saying anything will happen, it is just that...regarding potential or plausibility, the peak conditions are --now.

However, the interesting bit is that charge change can also change...frequency.

Or, carrier waves in a pressured state... a pressure differential, a change in frequency can be an aspect of change - an alteration- in a pressured system where change (forced) takes place.

Interesting, yes, regarding the end of this calendar ---and timing? Hhmmmm....

You might have Bill take a look at what I'm saying and then he can decide if he thinks that maybe Farrell and Hoagland might want to look at it too. Bill's done physics before and he might think it has merit as potentials go. I work in these areas, specifically. Not in astronomical aspect of plasma, but in the dimensional/atomic/quantum physics aspects, which translate directly to the universe at large. (to pun it, just a bit)

To be clear, I'm not saying it will amount to anything at all, but if anything is there..then this may be the shape it takes.

[Rantaak]

What the eff is NASA doing on project avalon?! I'm OUTTA HERE!

[TWINCANS]

Thank you Carmody for describing what some of us have been trying to say re Elenin. It is precisely at the forecast time (late Oct) that the effect of the tail 'might' (not 'will') be felt in earth disturbances particularly in the southern hemisphere between Western Australia and Africa because that is where it is aimed. It is the energetics that are the issue here, not the pieces of junk leftovers. Great post.

As to the fear porn issue which will undoubtedly be raised, facts are facts. So as Douglas Adams said 'Don't Panic'.

[TargeT]

like a weak spot in a balloon being the point that when the pressure is too high...that this weak spot is the place the hole on the balloon begins..in the same way the charge disturbance of the solar system, by this Elenin------- is now in line with the earth.

So if a CME were to decide to happen and be a strong one, then it could follow the debris path, this charge differential path. For it is the weak point - now. Like a shotgun barrel aimed right at us.

Impeedence reduction was always what I was worried about, espeicaly since solar cycle 23 "never ended" and we are seeing so much ativity from our star.

[Maia Gabrial]

On one of James Gilliland's emails, it said that Elenin was not a comet, but that it's a code word (Extinction Level Event notable something november) for the elites, the higher echelon of the military and a few others in the know. It's what's following it that they're focused on....

[Draco]

Comet Elenin was a bringer of enlightenment and got our brains and eyes to start looking at the seems tearing in this illusion, and Nasa wants everyone to forget about it , which will make us go back in the cage of illusion "Remember it" cause its roughly another 3600 years before we seen it again. The very fact the NASA wants us to forget about it makes me think what are their intentions.

[Sesan]

What the eff is NASA doing on project avalon?! I'm OUTTA HERE!

I agree. Who let NASA in the house?????

[ThePythonicCow]

What the eff is NASA doing on project avalon?! I'm OUTTA HERE!

NASA is what we (Richard, I suspect, previous admin) named the task that runs on the Project Avalon forum web server, polls http://solarsystem.nasa.gov/news/ for new articles, and automatically posts what it finds.

[Ilie Pandia]

It is in the ecliptic, or the 'plane' of the solar system. It is a potential, nothing else.

This... the trail of debris, or charge change trail ....is right in line with us, between us and the sun. Like a big fat gas cloud of charge change differential, a long string for a 'lightning strike' to flow down.

The danger period is now, regarding peak conditions.

Carmody, in your view is this analogy correct?

If we consider the Sun and the Earth like two points holding huge electrical potentials, then Elenin could be like a small graphite pen, drawing a line that almost bridges the space gap between those two points. In doing so, the small pen has no gravitational effect on the two points, but rather draws a path that may favor a huge electrical discharge between the Sun and Earth.

This is what you mean by the quote above?

[Seikou-Kishi]

Read here: NASA Says Comet Elenin Gone and Should Be Forgotten (http://solarsystem.nasa.gov/news/display.cfm?News_ID=38823).

NASA also say they don't edit UFOs out of photographs. I never paid much attention to Elenin at all, but if NASA is seeing fit to pontificate from on high, it raises questions for me.

[13th Warrior]

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