Comet Elenin, C/2010 X1

[olgraybear]

From this report and information from:

http://ssd.jpl.nasa.gov/sbdb.cgi?sstr=elenin&orb=1

If I understand it right, It shows its trajectory to be closest to earth on 16th and 17 of October 2011 at 0.24 AU


Physical Parameter Table
Parameter Symbol Value Units Sigma Reference Notes
comet total magnitude M1 10.2 mag 0.4 12 from 56 observations, assumed slope, autocmod 2.4c
comet total magnitude slope K1 10. n/a 12 autocmod 2.4c
comet nuclear magnitude M2 13.6 mag 0.4 12 from 131 observations, autocmod 2.4c
comet nuclear magnitude slope K2 5. n/a 12 autocmod 2.4c
comet nuclear phase coefficient PC 0.03 n/a 12 autocmod 2.4c

[NoTingles]

The following images are screen shots from JPL's Small Object Database Browser. This first image shows the relative locations of the planets in a birdseye view of the solar system from above the Ecliptic. On March 15, Elenin will be perpendicular to our horizon, rising in the morning in the southern Hemisphere. On its inbound trajectory, it approaches the inner solar system from below the ecliptic.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=4537&thumb=1&d=1297559358
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The second image shows the relative positions of the planets and Elenin on Sept 9, when it passes through the ecliptic. Although within 1 AU distance, its position relative to the sun will probably make it difficult to see during the day, until around sundown.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=4538&thumb=1&d=1297559334
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In this last image, we see the relative positions of the planets on Oct 17, when Elenin will be at its closest position to Earth, less than 1/4 AU, and it should be the dominant celestial body in the sky besides our moon and sun; it will rise about midnight and set at dawn in our point of view. It will grow smaller each day as it follows its outbound trajectory.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=4536&thumb=1&d=1297559380
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[Kano]

Very interesting! Thanks for sharing, Olgraybear.

Kano

[irishspirit]

http://reinep.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/comet-elenin1.jpg?w=555&h=305 (http://reinep.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/comet-elenin1.jpg)
Comet Elenin was just discovered this past Dec. 2010 by a Russian Astronomer Leonid Elenin. The question is why media hasn’t said anything about it? They have always made a big fuzz in the past about found comets. Is it because it is going to be coming a little too close for comfort and they don’t want people freaking out?



Comet Elenin Could Hit Earth. This is a possibility because of the very unstable predictions of the Comet. Preliminary predictions have Comet Elenin coming within 42 million miles of the Earth with a very favorable comet sun angle for observers in the northern hemisphere. This is likely to change somewhat as additional data will tweak the orbit, but as it stands now we will see a spectacular comet in late October or early November 2011. When Comet Elenin first was discovered in December last 2010 it was calculated to pass 8.8 Au (8.8 times the distance of the Sun form us) away.



But now these calculations has once changed again. Today the orbital calculation is down to 0.24 Au with a minimum as low as 0.15. But these data is being recalculated all the time and it could get even closer but that depends what it encounters in the Oort belt. Just so you know the Moon is 0.00256 away from us to give you a comparison. We must be aware the this comet could bring enormous amount of debris with it and Earth will pass through the debris trail. This will probably take place around the 6th November 2011 or later. Could this new long period comet be the original story of Nibiru?


http://www.xnewsarchive.com/2011/02/comet-elenin-could-hit-earth/

[Swami]

There's a lot of fuzz going on on the net about this one.


This video covers a period of June 1, 2011 to November 1, 2011, illustrating the orbit of the comet Elenin in relation to the inner planets. The inset shows a view directly perpendicular to the Earth's orbit, illustrating how Elenin will be well above the plane of the Earth's orbit during its period of closest approach to the Earth. The inset covers the period of September 22, 2011 to October 24, 2011. Orbital elements are correct as of February 23, 2011.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbXlMFHYd0A


Urgent Message about whats going to happen on and around March 15 !! Clear explanation of the comming pole shift from the approach of commet Elenin! This could be the reason FEMA has ordered all the MRE's, underwater bodybags, blakets. Something drastic is going to happen with this commet approching. Could this be what the Mayans, and the many others were predicting with 2012? For them predicting so many 1,000s of years ahead, to be off by only 1 year is extreamy accuate!
All I can say is get ready! Its better safe then sorry! I am stocked up on food, water, medical supplies...etc God Bless!! Stay Safe!!

http://www.xnewsarchive.com/2011/02/e...

"Deep Impact" which came out in '98. In this movie, the comet that ends up striking the earth is the very same comet mentioned in Laura's article, comet "Elenin" which (according to the movie) is named after two people, combining their names---a astronomer/scientist in Virginia Beach who died in a 'car crash' on his way to the ''proper authorities" with the information about the comet on its way to the earth (3 years before it happens) and also named after the young man who first spotted the comet in a telescope in Virginia Beach, and who told the scientist about it.
The movie is, of course, filled with disinformation mainly designed to make us think that the PTB (a black president no less!) really care about the general masses, and have a plan for us all, and are all set to annihilate the comet with nuclear reactors, which fail and only cause the comet to split in 2 pieces--a huge one and a small one--the small one hits the Atlantic ocean and sends a Tsunami 700 miles inland--east coast of US, and the big one eventually gets blown up by the crew sacrificing their lives, flying into it with the remaining detonation of 4 nukes,

here is a link to view Comet elenin path.. http://ssd.jpl.nasa.gov/sbdb.cgi?sstr...
What is interesting here, is that the perihelion falls on September 11, 2011. 9/11. What is really weird is that in Jewish Gematria, the word "ELENIN" is equal to 119, the reverse of 911 , where E=5, L=20, E=5, N=40, I=9, and N=40. In addition, ELENIN is an clear fractal for NINE and ELEVIN.
Additionally, Elenin's orbit resembles that of the purported theories of Planet X or Nibiru, a planet-sized object that cyclically enters our Solar System on a elliptical orbit, eventually bringing about a doomsday scenario on Earth and the inner parts of the Solar System. I personally, don't subscribe to this theory, but it must make you wonder about NASA's obvious silence on the matter and the recently released story about the star Betelgeuse becoming a Supernova this year and the creation of a second sun in our skies, especially considering the symbolism from Arthur C. Clarke's classic novel "2010: Odyssey Two," and film adaptation "2010: The Year We Make Contact" where our Sun, Sol, is accompanied by a new Sun, Lucifer, following the explosion of the planet Jupiter by an alien technology.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Hfo0RLxMrA

[loc333]

This seems to be very important information, my governer has left town for two weeks. Kerry and Bill are in the four corners part of America, a very safe area. March 15 is approaching, along with Elenin. I'm a little nervous. Should I be?

[bluestflame]

be interesting to find out who else has left town for a few weeks ,

[jjl]

ya know...the meditation some of us did with Charles required all of us to concentrate on a big E.

[loc333]

head for Z hills

[Champion the Wonderhorse]

ya know...the meditation some of us did with Charles required all of us to concentrate on a big E.

jjl interesting and also worrying :shocked:

How exactly did this meditation go?

[jjl]

I thought it went great. I am wondering if we were to push it a smidge like blowing at an object hard! maybe we changed it's trajectory. Who knows? I get the feeling around here that a bunch of people are sitting on big news.

[jjl]

Just reread your post. We: held something negative to us in our "negative hand" ie the one we don't use as much. Something we love, in another hand, (Note, nothing including persons or live creatures.) in the middle we concentrated on a 6 inch letter E for I think two minutes.

[greybeard]

Just reread your post. We: held something negative to us in our "negative hand" ie theone we don't use as much. Something we love, in another hand, (Note, nothing including persons or live creatures.) in the middle we concentrated on a 6 inch letter E for I think two minutes.

The left hand is the heart hand and the one that the healing energy tends to go out of.

Back on topic.

There is an enormous amount of information on what is out there on this video by Astral Walker


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZRrKi99mno&feature=player_embedded

[Snowbird]

This seems to be very important information, my governer has left town for two weeks. Kerry and Bill are in the four corners part of America, a very safe area. March 15 is approaching, along with Elenin. I'm a little nervous. Should I be?

I don't think that you should be any more nervous about this than about anything else that is happening and will happen, at this time period. We know that we are in for a rocky ride. The simple fact of the knowing helps to alleviate much of the stress.

I do however, find it very interesting that the very recent interviews that have come out don't mention comet Elenin. Mel Fabrigas interviewed Stewart Swerdlow early this month and Stewart did say that Nibiru had been destroyed by weaponry but he didn't say anything at all about Elenin. I posted an interview with Drunvalo Melchizedek on another thread in Spirtuality, and he does mention the Mayans belief that there will be a pole shift, but he does not mention anything about a comet affecting Earth. Drunvalo is very excited about the future....which, according to him, is a vastly different scenario from what we have been told or what the controllers would have us believe.

It is possible that this comet will be what causes a pole shift as it did previously, according to the video above. And then again, it may do nothing.

[Champion the Wonderhorse]

I thought it went great. I am wondering if we were to push it a smide like blowing at an object hard! maybe we changed it's trajectory. Who knows? I get the feeling around here that a bunch of people are sitting on big news.

jjl I really hope that is the case and not my suspicious mind getting the better of me.
Thanks

[ghostrider]

isn't there a movie do out around 3-11-11 about the battle for earth/california?

[Champion the Wonderhorse]

This seems to be very important information, my governer has left town for two weeks. Kerry and Bill are in the four corners part of America, a very safe area. March 15 is approaching, along with Elenin. I'm a little nervous. Should I be?

I don't think that you should be any more nervous about this than about anything else that is happening and will happen, at this time period. We know that we are in for a rocky ride. The simple fact of the knowing helps to alleviate much of the stress.

I do however, find it very interesting that the very recent interviews that have come out don't mention comet Elenin. Mel Fabrigas interviewed Stewart Swerdlow early this month and Stewart did say that Nibiru had been destroyed by weaponry but he didn't say anything at all about Elenin. I posted an interview with Drunvalo Melchizedek on another thread in Spirtuality, and he does mention the Mayans belief that there will be a pole shift, but he does not mention anything about a comet affecting Earth. Drunvalo is very excited about the future....which, according to him, is a vastly different scenario from what we have been told or what the controllers would have us believe.

It is possible that this comet will be what causes a pole shift as it did previously, according to the video above. And then again, it may do nothing.

Thanks Snowbird

I've had mixed feelings about Drunvalo in the past.
But I do know that anything can happen, whatever we put our minds to. Its a question of choice.

[jjl]

Just reread your post. We: held something negative to us in our "negative hand" ie theone we don't use as much. Something we love, in another hand, (Note, nothing including persons or live creatures.) in the middle we concentrated on a 6 inch letter E for I think two minutes.

The left hand is the heart hand and the one that the healing energy tends to go out of.

Back on topic.

There is an enormous amount of information on what is out there on this video by Astral Walker


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZRrKi99mno&feature=player_embedded

Thanks for the post. In my belief system, this is too narrow a definition. I am left handed and grew up with all kinds of preconceived notions of how being left handed applied to me. To me, my left will always be to me "predominant " and nothing else. I hope I don't sound testy...I am emotional in my response when I feel judged. I am in no way accusing you of judging me, my heartfelt response is a reaction to my past. Much heart your way GreyBeard, with respect jj

[jjl]

head for Z hills

:pound:*****************ahh levity THANK YOU loc333!!!

[Fredkc]

This will probably take place around the 6th November 2011 or later.
Good morning Irish! Glad to see you have time for us, once again.

People keep predicting stuff within a few days of my birthday. I am beginning to have delusions of adequacy re. doom and gloom. Am I a target? or just a magnet?


Clear explanation of the coming pole shift from the approach of comet Elenin!
Um... relax.
Anything designated a "comet" has all the gravitational, or electro-magnetic affect on earth, a fly has circling your dinner. If that is a real worry then the moon should have us in constant turmoil. :)

No, the worry is, or should be whether it actually hits the planet. To wit:


http://fredsitelive.com/images/post/anotherbeer.jpg
"and then I heard it, plain as day!
"Jethro! Get up and go get your self another beer! Right now!"

Fred

[Carmody]

particle streams off the comet can alter the electrostatic charge envelope around the earth. if the stream is dense enough and close enough.

Back to the 'electric universe' model.

So..if the charge differential or polarity/pressure differential is critical to the earth's stability, who knows. Ie, the gravitational model has been thoroughly trashed with regard to observation and 'facts', in the minds of some (and even many, depends).

Thus if it is an electric universe model..and then spraying large clouds of 'materiel' as a vapor in this intense voltage pressure differential zone can cause either a channel for CME arcing or even provide an upset in electrostatic balance of the earth's fields.

Maybe even a physical shift.

Or maybe get on the spiritual bandwagon and get my nike runners and purple outfit laid out on the bed.

This part is interesting as the charge particle insertions into the earth's fields from the X (flare) sized CME's off of the sun set my kundalini crazy when it happens. When the aurora appears (2-3 days later) with the huge change in charged particle level and distribution in the earth's fields.....I can BARELY stay in my body (when sleeping), regarding dimensional overlay in my particular avatar/spirit combo.

to clarify:

if you have a large area of charge differential, or 'voltage pressure' and you introduce particles into that relatively clean vacuum area, then you can cause a change in 'conductivity' and then things can shift or arc. This is the exact tale of lightening. Or arcing, as it is known. When the difference in voltage between two points becomes great enough then an arc occurs. It depends on the conductivity of the space between them. Conductivity is the ability for electricity to flow between two given points, measured as a value, between those two points. 'pressure differential' or 'voltage differential' is the measurement of the level or 'pressure' of charged particles as a difference, from one spot to the next. "Conductivity" is the measurement of the ability to flow from one point or the next, and the voltage measurement is the difference in pressure between the two points.

In the winter when the conductivity of air is down due to decreased humidity..we get electrostatic change build up and we get those static shocks. You might notice that it can also make you feel 'not so good'. The very reason why some people need those conductivity straps on their cars. For they build up too much charge while driving their car, and they don't like the feel of it. So they get the strap for their car and others with low sensitivity to these things ridicule them for it.

In space, the vacuum is fairly clean, and bringing in different particles or a thicker stew can upset that balance. It changes the conductivity of the vacuum of space, in that area. Increases conductivity, like the humidity going up in your house... and thus increases particle flow in a given area-and drops the charge potential. Or it can provide the channel for an arc strike, if the potential field differentials remain high enough.

Electrostatic charge can levitate things, this is the works of "T. Townshend Brown", of the Philadelphia Experiment fame. This is also to a degree, considered to be the basis of the current man-made UFO's. See the "Stan Deyo" video links here on the forum.


The earth in this system has a HUGE electrostatic charge field, as does the sun. We are in a sort of balance of fields.

My conclusions are that in a perfect arc with no resistive loss, there is no time. Therefore, in a perfectly resistive environment, one of separation..there exists some facet or aspect of time. If it is time, there is gravity. They are linked at the hip. Suddenly the Philadelphia experiment makes sense.

Go to the Maxwell's equations listed in the video/book area and note that he says that the electrodynamic vortex model he came up with (that JP Morgan paid to have gutted) is asymmetrical (goes in one direction, thus-linear time, future and history)..and he also says one key word. ELASTIC. Thus, when you add in relativity and modulate via high level potential fields of AC, you get dimensional shifting. (High frequency is the same as acceleration--delta, remember?)

Voila! The Philadelphia experiment unfolds itself in front of your eyes.

And a potentially messy (or interesting) scenario for the earth, in this case. Depends on the output from the comet and how close. We shall see, obviously.

Coming from the greater reaches of space, the Oort cloud, the voltage charge differential is VERY high, compared to this space the earth is in, and that of the Sun. Comets have been known to show evidence of breaking apart from the differentials. Arcs on their surfaces, all kinds of things. See the 'thunderbolts of the gods' website.

http://www.thunderbolts.info/

[Richard]

The two images below clearly show the comet will not be anywhere near us on Sept 11 2011 and its closest approach to Earth still has it more than 21 million miles from us.
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/images/Screenshot.png
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/images/Screenshot-1.png

Oh but just as a side note, ELEnin could be a reference to ELE or Extinction Level Event.. just a thought.

Cheers :)

[Snowbird]

greybeard: The left hand is the heart hand and the one that the healing energy tends to go out of.

Back on topic.

There is an enormous amount of information on what is out there on this video by Astral Walker

greybeard, I just now finished watching this very important video series. This is hard-hitting information, but it also appears to be genuine.

I'm hoping that everyone takes the time to watch this.

[Carmody]

How many planets go through the comet ejecta tail? How many planets have their electrostatic charge field interacted with? Or, Altered?

In the idea of a holographic multidimensional universe, where waves of such are passing through us at all times and are also interfered with by the planets and also emitted by the sun..then we get into an 'effect change' if the fields are altered or interacted with by this ejecta from the given comet.

See the Stan Deyo videos on UFO propulsion, as he explains this aspect of astrology interactives and oscillating dimensional fields --in one single shot, with active live examples. Ie video of an example/test.

Stan explains the dimensional ones and IMO, accidentally explains astrology and fractal holographic interactive models at the same time.

[loc333]

Thanks greybeard, never seen astralwalker video,watched the whole thing...it answers a lot of things for me thank you.

[jjl]

thanks Carmody, too bad for me that my legs have so much metal in them, if I am to understand correctly.

[Carmody]

This all depends on the planets being in the ejecta path and my extended hypothesis being correct, on all fronts. So don't run off trying to find some sandwich signs so you can strut up and down the street, based on this... that I'm presenting, here. :)


How many planets go through the comet ejecta tail? How many planets have their electrostatic charge field interacted with? Or, Altered?

In the idea of a holographic multidimensional universe, where waves of such are passing through us at all times and are also interfered with by the planets and also emitted by the sun..then we get into an 'effect change' if the fields are altered or interacted with by this ejecta from the given comet.

See the Stan Deyo videos on UFO propulsion, as he explains this aspect of astrology interactives and oscillating dimensional fields --in one single shot, with active live examples. Ie video of an example/test.

Well, my point is that if the fields are disturbed, we get some sort of collapse (or change) of their fields, possibly.

If the electrostatic fields drop off, so does their influences in your astrology, or EGO FUNCTION. (the patterned dance of the ego and 'life'----astrology)(specifically that of the inner planets. Mars, Venus, Mercury and the Moon)

To 'ascend', mentally, as an avatar/spirit duality system, you'd need to have those ego influences gone, or lessened --possibly.

If the comet interacts with all the inner planets, then ego function effects/disturbances could drop off dramatically, at that time.

Do you folks see what I'm getting at?

Some of you have done OBE's on a regular basis. If you do it right (IMO), then your ego function is almost gone in those spaces. The relief (that is felt) you hear about when people die and leave their bodies. Love remains and so do other aspects, but the extremes of emotions are virtually gone, and the spiritual mind becomes incredibly clear.

Just a thought, but the timing of it does not escape me.

The order of the interactions would also be interesting to know. It would be best to dump mars first, IMO. Mars, Mercury, Venus, then the moon?

http://ssd.jpl.nasa.gov/sbdb.cgi?sstr=C%2F2010%20X1;orb=1;cov=0;log=0;cad=0#orb


I just grabbed the first thing off the net for this... nothing 'intended' by supplying the given particular link. Just trying to show where my mind is going with this one.

According to Swedish Biologist and Mayan Scholar Carl Johan Calleman’s calculations, on November 3, 2010, we entered the last day of the Galactic Underworld. In March we are scheduled to enter the Universal Underworld. This is the ninth and final underworld of the Mayan Calendar. These underworlds can also be called levels of evolution or levels of creation.

Following Calleman’s theory, the Galactic Underworld started on January 5, 1999. The last day, day 7, is the time of fruition of all that has come to be born in this underworld. It is important to note that Calleman ends the calendar on October 28, 2011 rather than the more popular December 21, 2012 date.

http://www.ritualgoddess.com/the2012vortex/?tag=mayan-calendar

[aikya]

Carmody, in that case, would I be right in thinking the magnetic field would collapse as well?

Some who are expecting a polar shift to happen in the not too distant future say that for such a shift to happen, the magnetic field would need to collapse to zero.

Your post made me think of this.

[passiglight]

Hi Greybeard, i want to thank you from my heart for posting this video..

I'm sure actually that i've seen you post this before, but for some reason i have mistakenly overlooked it..

This is the last piece of the Jigsaw that i have been looking for,, i feel absolutely elated.

I deeply respect your wisdom and your great intellect and wonderful humility.

You are a truly amazing and inspiring human being,,,,,,i will pm you to explain more, but,,

thank you most deeply namaste and cosmic love to you




Just reread your post. We: held something negative to us in our "negative hand" ie theone we don't use as much. Something we love, in another hand, (Note, nothing including persons or live creatures.) in the middle we concentrated on a 6 inch letter E for I think two minutes.

The left hand is the heart hand and the one that the healing energy tends to go out of.

Back on topic.

There is an enormous amount of information on what is out there on this video by Astral Walker


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZRrKi99mno&feature=player_embedded

[Wings]

I have watched that particular video by Astral Walker - Parts 1 to 8.

In Part 8 he shows quite a number of crop circles when he is talking about the merkaba. He obviously believes most crop circles are made by aliens, but 2 that he includes in this video were, as far as I am aware, man-made. The elaborate key crop circle I heard was commissioned by a music band. The simple and very crude crop circle showing 2 small interconnecting circles was man made by one crop circle enthusiast (again as far as I am aware).

[greybeard]

I dont think anyone has more than part of the story so cross check cross check.

Certainly we are going through a period of earth changes and climate changes.

Just a question of a balanced perspective.

Chris

[Wings]

Hi greybeard, indeed no-one has all the answers and yes we're experiencing major change. Astral Walker has some thought provoking things to say in those videos, and I wasn't completely dismissing him. Apologies if this is how I came across.

By the way the name of the band associated with the 'key' crop circle was Gyroscope, for anyone interested.

[loc333]

I was trying to point out, that when Elenin passed at this time last year it caused the 8.something in chili which then changed the pole to move three inches......not the end of the world....but a pretty big earth change......to bad we cant.....blow it up.

[Helvetic]

http://www.curtrenz.com/Comet.gif

[Snowbird]

And yet, another look at this orbit...

Comet C/2010 X1 (Elenin) pass near from the NASA STEREO-B spacecraft

LLIvMwxLZUQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=LLIvMwxLZUQ

Passage of comet C/2010 X1 (Elenin) through the interior part of the Solar System

At the moment the comet’s orbit has been calculated well enough that there will be no serious changes.

Closest approach to the Earth will be October 16th

http://spaceobs.org/en/tag/comet-elenin/

[Jean-Marie]

Comet Elelin Debunked.....

I have watched several of thebarcaroller's u-tube videos. He is pretty good. Here is the link to his video Comet Elenin Debunked!

[vid eo][/vid eo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-V-xvN9ldhc[vid eo][/vid eo]

-jean-marie

[Lord Sidious]

Comet Elelin Debunked.....

I have watched several of thebarcaroller's u-tube videos. He is pretty good. Here is the link to his video Comet Elenin Debunked!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-V-xvN9ldhc


-jean-marie

There ya go.

[Bill Ryan]

Today the orbital calculation is down to 0.24 Au with a minimum as low as 0.15. But these data is being recalculated all the time and it could get even closer but that depends what it encounters in the Oort belt. Just so you know the Moon is 0.00256 away from us to give you a comparison.


That's a useful calculation. With a calculator, you can divide 0.15 by 0.00256 and immediately see that the minimum approach is over 58 times the moon's distance from us.

I'm amending the thread title from Comet Elenin Could Hit Earth!! to Comet Elenin will not hit Earth. :)




I'm a little nervous. Should I be?

Absolutely not. :)

[irishspirit]

Today the orbital calculation is down to 0.24 Au with a minimum as low as 0.15. But these data is being recalculated all the time and it could get even closer but that depends what it encounters in the Oort belt. Just so you know the Moon is 0.00256 away from us to give you a comparison.


That's a useful calculation. With a calculator, you can divide 0.15 by 0.00256 and immediately see that the minimum approach is over 58 times the moon's distance from us.

I'm amending the thread title from Comet Elenin Could Hit Earth!! to Comet Elenin will not hit Earth. :)




I'm a little nervous. Should I be?

Absolutely not. :)

Thankyou bill.

Not my title at all, just copying what the author had published.

Be Safe

Irish

[johnf]

This information is mainly based on hunches I have been getting, as well as serendipitous postings of videos. Could be there is something to it, maybe I spent way too much time on the Avalon forum.

There seem to be two objects that will come... close to the planet in the up coming 9 month (gestation period) of this year. The interpretations of the Mayan calendar call this the ninth wave, and it seems to be about breaking up this opposition, and facilatating the birthing of unity consciousness. The dates for this period are given as march 9th to octoober28th.
The passing object that comes first is set to come closest to us on October 15th, the famous Ides of march. In Roman times, this was a festive day that honored Mars. The god of war, usually associated with the male principle and when overdone leads to abuse and paranoid patriarchies. Also the assasination of Julius Ceasar the end of a dictators rule. There seems to be a lot of that going around eh folks? Also I think that balancing calming etc on the lower 3rd chakras will be easier during the beginning of this period.
It's funny how the gestation thing didn't occur till I started writing this, but I think it is a good metaphor to describe this period.
As for the end of this period, i haven't seen any meaningful associations come up, but would love to hear anything that others see. Of course there is the obvious, later in the pregnancy the baby starts kicking, and the actual birth is a bit of an upheaval to say the least but with huge rewards!
Just a sampling of my more cosmically focussed babling.

[robert]

Just reread your post. We: held something negative to us in our "negative hand" ie theone we don't use as much. Something we love, in another hand, (Note, nothing including persons or live creatures.) in the middle we concentrated on a 6 inch letter E for I think two minutes.

The left hand is the heart hand and the one that the healing energy tends to go out of.

Back on topic.

There is an enormous amount of information on what is out there on this video by Astral Walker


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZRrKi99mno&feature=player_embedded

Thank you Greybeard
this is much appreciated.

best regards

Robert

[Lumial8]

No, the worry is, or should be whether it actually hits the planet. To wit:


http://fredsitelive.com/images/post/anotherbeer.jpg
"and then I heard it, plain as day!
"Jethro! Get up and go get your self another beer! Right now!"

Fred

Hi Fred

I love your sense of humour, you had me smiling out loud! I really needed that...:kiss:

[irishspirit]

Very interesting that this is now on the NASA website. Moreover, you will note in the Video that NASA say: Because of the possibly that the comets orbit's slightly deviate from, their is no Guarantee that Earth will be missed. Pretty interesting if you ask me.

http://buzzroom.nasa.gov/multimedia/videos/983/

You might have to click the image to start the video.

[Gaia]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqxUsr8xfps

[Zepheriah]

Whatever it is, it's lovely to look at

[king anthony]

Good capture - more to come.

[Spartacus]

That is sunlight from below the earth's horizon illuminating the contrails from a high altitude aircraft.

Case closed. Next...

[truthseekerdan]

That is sunlight from below the earth's horizon illuminating the contrails from a high altitude aircraft.

Case closed. Next...

That was an easy to the point explanation, isn't it? :rolleyes:

[Gaia]

Good capture - more to come.

Comet Elenin? A UFO Over Melbourne Sky? 30/03/2011 7:23:36 PM Part 1/4 Couldn't find the others sorry:(

[king anthony]

Good capture - more to come.

Comet Elenin? A UFO Over Melbourne Sky? 30/03/2011 7:23:36 PM Part 1/4 Couldn't find find the others sorry:(

Sorry, I was not clear; my meaning was, there will be more of these types of "events" to come - the skies will tell of things to be.

[ngogly]

e-book, e-mail, e-Lenin

[HURRITT ENYETO]

Good capture - more to come.

Comet Elenin? A UFO Over Melbourne Sky? 30/03/2011 7:23:36 PM Part 1/4 Couldn't find find the others sorry:(

Sorry, I was not clear; my meaning was, there will be more of these types of "events" to come - the skies will tell of things to be.

Hi King Anthony :)
What makes you think that?
Do you believe there is an incoming body?
Could you please elaborate a bit.

Cheers in advance

Hurritt

[truthseekerdan]

Do you believe there is an incoming body?
Could you please elaborate a bit.

H.E. you may want to check the thread below with more info on Elenin... Hope is elaborated enough. ;)

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?16101-Proof-that-Comet-Elenin-doesn-t-exists%21-We-have-Nibiru-instead

[str8thinker]

Duplicate thread:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?17494

[ThePythonicCow]

Duplicate thread:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?17494

True. Though I am not going to merge them, as both threads were active in the same time period, so merging would intermingle the posts of one thread with the other, confusing both threads.

[Gaia]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLe9rD17L08

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VpekqIDx99U

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHjw02CX60s

[The Truth Is In There]

here's an interview i recently came across featuring augusto perez, some kind of christian prophet. he talks about what's coming in 2011/12, what "god" told him, what a friend of his confirmed regarding comet elenin, a few things about the nwo and more. ignore the religious flavour if it's not for you but the information is very interesting and for me it confirmed a couple things, especially re comet elenin, the prophesied three days of darkness (when & why) and coming earth changes. it's quite long but well worth your time i think.

http://www.thebyteshow.com/Audio/AugustoPerez/AugustoPerez_TheEndOfTime20_17Mar2011_TBS.mp3

here's more stuff from him (i haven't checked out the other interviews yet)
http://www.thebyteshow.com/AugustoPerez.html


and here's some info about another prophet, siener van rensburg, who predicted the destruction of japan through earthquakes, among other things that have already come to pass. also quite interesting. not sure if any of this has been posted already.

http://heavenawaits.wordpress.com/siener-van-rensburg-visions-of-the-future/

[Nasu]

I think buried deep inside the fervor are some very interesting truths. The lady interviewing him ads some amusing and comic noises of concern, but overall a good interview.

Regarding his religious comments and visions, my personal belief is that we describe things as we can understand them, if his frame of reference is Christianity, then fine, we all define our experience differently. A rose by any other name would still smell as sweet.

Keep on digging. Good find. Thanks.

[charlesfrith]

Blimey I couldn't hack the religious bent. God running around with a measuring ruler. Thanks for posting anyway. It's always good to have an opportunity to hear different people. I'm convinced nobody has the full picture and it wouldn't be sporting if someone did.

[charlesfrith]

Ha. Yes. I noticed those oh dears and good lords by the interviewer were sprinkled liberally.

[ponda]

Hi The Truth Is In There,

Interesting interview.I didn't know that comet Elenin was aligned when the Chile quake occurred as well as the Japan quake.I put the below info in another thread but it might be useful here as well.

Here's a date adjustable solar system illustrator that tracks comet Elenin as it approaches the inner solar system.You can see when the comet has earth alignments and also planet alignments that are coming up soon.

Here:
http://ssd.jpl.nasa.gov/sbdb.cgi?sst...=0;log=0;cad=0

or here:
http://ssd.jpl.nasa.gov/sbdb.cgi?sstr=elenin;orb=1;cov=0;log=0;cad=0#orb


Here's some key alignment dates(rough approximates):

3/15/2011 alignment—sun earth comet (2.099)

April 8-12th 2011 alignment Elenin - Earth - Venus only ( Elenin is only 1.8 au from earth at this point)

06 September 2011 Elenin - Mercury - Mars - Earth align

9/26/2011 alignment—sun comet earth (.392)

11 October 2011 (Elenin is 0.246au from us) Thats a quater of the distance to the sun.
aligning Sun - Elenin - Jupiter - Earth this is a six day alignment!!!

10/16/2011 closest (.24)

20th October 2011- Elenin enters our orbit and we will experiance a gravitational pull.

11/6/2011 possible debris field interaction

11 November 2011- Venus - Earth- Elenin - mercury align

11/22/2011 alignment—sun earth comet (.586) possible tail interaction

04 December 2011- Sun - mercury - Earth- Elenin align as Elenin moves away

25 December 2011-Mars- Elenin - jupiter align

4/21/2012 possible debris field interaction

12/25/2012 alignment—sun earth comet (5.242)

[sangstar1]

Hi everyone,

I appreciate very much the interest that you all have had in this topic and thank you very much for bringing this to the avalon forum. I just wish to add that there will be a story done in our local Hume Leader regarding this object which I may add was also seen in Argentina.

Thanks again to everyone.

Kind regards,

Sergio

[Billy]

Share this, download this. It may be taken down




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9B948pU-Spk


http://lanl.arxiv.org/find/all/1/all:+elenin/0/1/0/all/0/1

http://sites.google.com/site/omerbashich/

[Billy]

THE CAUSE OF STRONG EARTHQUAKES

THE PROOF THAT STRONG SEISMICITY ARISES DUE TO MAGNIFICATION OF MASS RESONANCE DURING EARTH'S ALIGNMENTS TO CELESTIAL OBJECTS - 12 April 2011

Empirical proof (2011) of the georesonator concept (the Earth thought of as a forced mechanical oscillator) is now available as a preprint. Strong (~M6+) seismicity on Earth occurs due to magnification of Earth masses' (mostly the mantle's) resonance during the Earth's long (>3 days) astronomical alignments with astronomical objects in our solar system. The concept is akin to a bridge eventually collapsing due to soldiers step-marching across it. Thus earthquake precursors such as atmospheric or Sun activity ones are not due to some mysterious "outgoing radiation", but are a part of the same outer forcing that acts naturally along the forcing towards the Earth.

Instrumentation-data proof (2007), by successfully matching world's most accurate gravity field records (decadal, 1Hz accelerations from the Canadian superconducting gravimeter) to decadal M7+ seismicity at or up to 3 days before luni-solar alignments only. This is now extended to the solar system as a whole.

Theoretical proof (2008), by showing that absolute generalization - so to apply to all universes at all times - of georesonator to hyperresonator (our Universe thought of as a mechanical oscillator tidally forced by outer universes), results in a first-ever analytical expression for a physical constant: the Newtonian gravitational constant, G. Gravitation, and not physics, is scalable along a scale, s, so that: G = s e^2, thus disproving both Einstein's and Planck's assumptions on modifiable physics along largest and smallest scales respectively, as being fundamentally flawed.


http://sites.google.com/site/omerbashich/

[Billy]

Physics > General Physics
Title: Astronomical alignments as the cause of ~M6+ seismicity
Authors: Mensur Omerbashich
(Submitted on 11 Apr 2011)

Abstract: I here demonstrate empirically my georesonator concept in which tidally induced magnification of Earth masses' resonance causes seismicity. To that end, I show that all strong (~M6+) earthquakes of 2010 occurred during the Earth's long (t>3 day) astronomical alignments within our solar system. I then show that the same holds true for all very strong (~M8+) earthquakes of the decade of 2000s. Finally, the strongest (M8.6+) earthquakes of the past century are shown to have occurred during the Earth's multiple long alignments, whereas half of the high-strongest (M9+) ones occurred during the Full Moon. I used the comet C/2010 X1 (Elenin), as it has been adding to robustness in terms of very strong seismicity since 2007 (in terms of strongest seismicity: since 1965). The Elenin will continue intensifying the Earth's very strong seismicity until August-October, 2011. Approximate forecast of earthquakes based on my discoveries is feasible. This demonstration proves my hyperresonator concept, arrived at earlier as a mathematical-physical solution to the most general extension of the georesonator concept possible.

http://lanl.arxiv.org/abs/1104.2036

http://lanl.arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/1104/1104.2036.pdf

[SKIBADABOMSKI]

I find this very accurate and very informative, thanks. I was looking for more info on this and you just saved me heaps of time.

[Steven]

That is very interesting. Thanks a lot to bring it here.

Reading and researching more in depth, I found this here on the site you already provided: http://sites.google.com/site/omerbashich/

Where the author has placed an interesting public note.

Quotes: '

PUBLIC NOTICE: The US Government stole this multibillion idea from me, and protected it under its name in a record-breaking time, within a year since I published the idea in my PhD thesis. They played dirty afterwords too: USPTO dragged my patent application for nearly five years, "lost" my filings/amendments a dozen times, provided wrong instructions at least four times, etc. Even prior to the theft, my PhD thesis final draft "got lost" in the US mail, thus extending my defense for more than half a year. Two PhD committees had resigned, and many other "nuisances" occurred along the way as well. Those included harassment by Canadian & US police, SWAT team with dogs and automatic weapons breaking in my apartment at 4 am, cops pulling me over and searching the vehicle and me (often at gunpoint with hands up, sometimes twice in a same day) over a hundred times during the last two years of my PhD, and other forms of pressure to leave my studies. In late Fall of 2010, USPTO has admitted that my PhD thesis idea is identical to what the Government had patented soon after my oral exam. (See this blog post (http://bosniafordummies.blogspot.com/index.html#619540563587490963)for more info; the updates are here (http://bosniafordummies.blogspot.com/index.html#4598271341836609518) and here (http://bosniafordummies.blogspot.com/index.html#3467252794606693674) and here (http://bosniafordummies.blogspot.com/index.html#1213339483316270180))
' end of the quotes.


Isn't it interesting...


Namaste, Steven

[NASA]

http://solarsystem.nasa.gov/multimedia/gallery/comet20110504-full160X120.jpg (http://solarsystem.nasa.gov/news/display.cfm?News_ID=37184)4 May 2011 - Comet Elenin: Preview of a Coming Attraction
You may have heard the news: Comet Elenin is coming to the inner-solar system this fall.


More... (http://solarsystem.nasa.gov/news/display.cfm?News_ID=37184)

[QueenKat]

Based on reports published by China's space agency, Sergio Toscano, director for Astronomical Research in Missions, said that behind the comet Elenin could be approaching a UFO.

The original article is in Spanish:

Google Translation (http://translate.google.com/translate?js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fnoticias.terra.com.ar%2Fcientificos-chinos-dicen-que-detras-de-cometa-viene-un-ovni%2C42ed4ad9867bf210VgnVCM4000009bf154d0RCRD.html)

I found this fascinating and just had to post it for everyone here to know of it! I haven't seen anything else on this anywhere.

Unless something profound happens from this, we'll probably never know anything else about it, sadly.

[Flasky]

Wow, a UFO? ............Anyone else heard of this?

Well, I'm imagining it would be rather a big UFO AKA mother ship...

[crosby]

this is exciting. i haven't seen or heard of this yet either. thanks QueenKat, very interesting material.
warmest regards, corson

[D-Day]

Good find QueenKat, thanks for sharing this article!

I'll see if I can dig up any further info ...

POST EDIT: Ok, I've had a good look around on Google and You Tube but couldn't find any useful information to support this story... sorry guys!

Who knows though, maybe we'll see some further developments coming to light over the next few days...

[Some Bloke]

I've not heard that before, but a friend sent me thi yesterday on Elenin, http://blog.imva.info/world-affairs/bad-news-nasa

[bennycog]

definitely watch this space..

[The One]

You may be wondering how in the world can comet Elenin be connected to Israel, the Palestinian State, and America? Good question. What I am about to show you may amaze you as it did me.

http://endtimesforecaster.blogspot.com/2011/03/comet-elenin-israel-palestinian-state.html

also Since geologists love cycles, five of the extinction events in Table 1 motivated David Raup and John Sepkoski to postulate a 26 million year extinction periodicity over the past 250 million years of geological time.31 One hypothesis for the cycle was that Nemesis, a twin star of the Sun, periodically disturbed the hypothetical Oort cloud of comets, some being ejected into the Solar System.32 Some of these comets then collided with the earth, resulting in the periodic mass extinctions. Nemesis has of course never been observed, neither has the Oort cloud.

http://www.answersingenesis.org/tj/v11/i2/dinosaur.asp

[GlassSteagallfan]

Just in from Activist Post:



Bad News from NASA: Proof That Comet Elenin Is Affecting Earth

http://www.activistpost.com/2011/05/bad-news-from-nasa-proof-that-comet.html

[Lord Sidious]

See the comments from the great unwashed who think they know something?
What is the bet they would be the first to try and blame anyone and everyone because they didn't get told?

[mojo]

Do you think there is a connection between Elenin and the increase in the number of UFO sightings seen worldwide? My own sighting observations suggest a group of different ET species are present and in observation mode right now and perhaps this is part of the reason why. And what part do you think 'they' will play if any?

[Lord Sidious]

I think that if elenin is not a comet as some surmise, then some of their scouts are surely around here watching?

[Calz]

I think that if elenin is not a comet as some surmise, then some of their scouts are surely around here watching?

Sounds like a nugget to me ...

[manny]

do,nt look too good for us.
wonder when we are able to see it in the sky.
what do we do start stockpiling food?
but do,nt see much piont ,if it can do that sort of damage in japan and NZ.from the distance its at now.
it looks like sep ....well i can,t even begin to comprehend.

[Calz]

do,nt look too good for us.
wonder when we are able to see it in the sky.
what do we do start stockpiling food?
but do,nt see much piont ,if it can do that sort of damage in japan and NZ.from the distance its at now.
it looks like sep ....well i can,t even begin to comprehend.

Best option - use jumproom to Mars and use your handy "universal pass" to join "those" underground.

Next best option - got a pass for the DUMBS???

Several options jury still out on ... but not looking marverlous.

Last option - party like it's 1999 :party:

All options - long as you remember you are not this frail "earth suit" then it is all good ... just yet another learning experience.

IMHO

[manny]

wonder when the mainstream media are gonna pick up on it.
this brown dwarf if that what it is can,t be kept secret.for much longer.

[kersley]

Just something i found on youtube. what you think?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHGaZMC8E0U

[Eikoor21]

lol i dont buy it

[truthseekerdan]

Just something i found on youtube. what you think?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHGaZMC8E0U

Propaganda disinformation :nod:

[ulli]

Here is a chart of Elenin's projected path from NASA.

Unfortunately I can't figure out what much of the data means, but it is classified as a small comet.

http://ssd.jpl.nasa.gov/sbdb.cgi?sstr=elenin;orb=1;cov=0;log=0;cad=0#orb

[Operator]

I listened to the show with details pasted below, it's a good conversation about the pro's and con's of Elenin being a comet or something else.

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/yowradio/2011/05/04/is-elenin-just-a-great-comet-or-is-it-more

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/yowradio/2011/05/04/is-elenin-just-a-great-comet-or-is-it-more.mp3

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/yowradio/2011/05/04/is-elenin-just-a-great-comet-or-is-it-more.mp3

Planet X Special Report with Marshall Masters

PANEL: Ed Douglas, Richard Goodwin and Terral Croft of the PlanetxTownHall.com, Comet Elenin Research Team

Comet C/2010 X1 Elenin is the hop topic on the Web today. This mysterious comet was discovered in December 2010 by Russian astronomer Leonid Elenin. Many have tried to vet his background with frustrating results and now wonder if he is a real person, or just a code word for an E.L.E. (Extinction Level Event), from the constellation LEO.

For those in the mainstream, all of this speculation and debate makes it difficult to draw a clear bead on the real story. This is because when Comet Elenin becomes visible to the naked eye later this year, it will not appear as a second sun in the sky. That is, assuming present estimates hold true.

In this panel interview with the PlanetxTownHall.com Comet Elenin research team, the goal is to help listeners to sort through this paralyzing conundrum, so they can focus on what matters most - survival.

[JoshERTW]

The thing I'm most concerned about is parts of the tail of this thing getting sucked into our gravity/atmosphere. Would wreak havoc with satellites for sure, and there would be the potential for a rain of metorites all over the place.

I had a dream last year that I wrote down cause it was so vivid. It was about some disaster that was pending and was on the news everywhere. The date of Oct 28th, was all over the place, but I was having a discussion with someone about the disaster actually happening earlier than this in the dream - the trajectory of Elenin would have it passing us at closest approach on the 16th of October. At the time I thought the dream was about a pole shift, but there were rocks falling from the sky, which wouldn't make sense for a pole shift - this however brings a little more clarity to the dream (potentialy). One impotant thing that I remember was the actual event was NOT as bad as the media was hyping up.

This site doesn't have anything about Elenin in its list of appraching objects yet, but I"m sure they will (if they don't I will be a bit more concerned).

http://www.spaceweather.com/

It also explains some of the units etc. on the trajectory page posted earlier.

The trajectory diagram seems to not be working at the moment. It does say that the closest apprach will be 0.23378... AU - this is approximately 91 times the distance of our moon, so unless this thing actually is a supermassive brown dwarf or other extremely sizeable object, I don't think we have to worry too much.

I think theres probably got to be a lot of amateur astronomers around the world who are checking this thing out, and I'm not hearing any alarms from them about this thing being anything more than a comet. And its not like they can silence every amateur astronomer in the world - someone would talk.

[Steven]

Elenin will not destroy the Earth. :) Another view that worth as much as all the survival mindset ideas outhere.

http://astrobob.areavoices.com/2011/04/04/comet-elenin-will-not-destroy-the-earth/

Quotes: 'Much baloney has been sliced about the comet or its tail striking the Earth and wreaking havoc. The truth is Comet Elenin is so tiny, its gravitational effect on Earth is practically zero. Even at closest approach it’s still 21 million miles away. Every few years we get almost that close to Venus (23.7 million miles), a rocky planet nearly the same size as our own, and don’t suffer any ill effects. Like the comet, its pull on Earth is tiny, tiny, tiny.' End of the quotes.

http://img718.imageshack.us/img718/1968/elenindistance.jpg

Stop worrying about Elenin, it is a waste.

Namaste, Steven

[thunder24]

And if it were to hit the earth, what would any of us do...no need to worry, be concerned, or fear...It is what it is, and it will be what it will be
peace

[Calz]

I listened to the show with details pasted below, it's a good conversation about the pro's and con's of Elenin being a comet or something else.

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/yowradio/2011/05/04/is-elenin-just-a-great-comet-or-is-it-more

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/yowradio/2011/05/04/is-elenin-just-a-great-comet-or-is-it-more.mp3

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/yowradio/2011/05/04/is-elenin-just-a-great-comet-or-is-it-more.mp3

Planet X Special Report with Marshall Masters

PANEL: Ed Douglas, Richard Goodwin and Terral Croft of the PlanetxTownHall.com, Comet Elenin Research Team

Comet C/2010 X1 Elenin is the hop topic on the Web today. This mysterious comet was discovered in December 2010 by Russian astronomer Leonid Elenin. Many have tried to vet his background with frustrating results and now wonder if he is a real person, or just a code word for an E.L.E. (Extinction Level Event), from the constellation LEO.

For those in the mainstream, all of this speculation and debate makes it difficult to draw a clear bead on the real story. This is because when Comet Elenin becomes visible to the naked eye later this year, it will not appear as a second sun in the sky. That is, assuming present estimates hold true.

In this panel interview with the PlanetxTownHall.com Comet Elenin research team, the goal is to help listeners to sort through this paralyzing conundrum, so they can focus on what matters most - survival.

I listened to the whole 1 hr 51 minutes (could easily have been done in half that).

If you are patient and really interested there were some good things.

One (of the 4 in the conversation) really really knew what he was talking about from an astronomical basis. He said some *very* interesting things.

There was no consensus on what the "object" is. Comet (but oddities), Brown Dwarf and interestingly there was a *brief* reference to the possibility it was being "intelligently navigated" in the manner in which it had come through the asteroid belt.

Hmmmm.

Also was suggested it had "objects" orbitting it and one fellow came up with a size of 2700 miles across.

Had good survival information (for the worst case scenario). Water purification system right at the top of the list.

The one guy who sounded like he knew what he was talking about said that ***if*** this was a brown dwarf then the sh*t really starts hitting the fan THIS September and you would really need to be headed to your (well stocked) underground cave (or whatever) by early August. He did NOT say he was sure it was a brown dwarf. If true you would want to be underground for 3 to 6 months.

[DoubleHelix]

I'm about half way through and it's full of conflicting reports. The new Nasa (JPL) tracker could very well be one of most effective Disinfo' tools out there!

One thing's for sure no-one can agree on the size of this thing, whether it's merely a comet or more to the size of a brown dwarf.

What holds weight with me is the occurrence of major earthquakes in relation to the aligning of Elenin - The Sun - The Earth and so forth. In saying that if the (Never A Straight Answer) Tracking model is our only source of information then it's far from comforting.

I personally don't buy into a doom and gloom type scenario.. There's too much fear mongering in this day and age!

[White Phoenix]

Did anyone happen to see the 'Smallville' series finale?

[Limor Wolf]

Can we consider the NASA's report as an accurate enogh description? Even so,this is one of the few things that we basicly have no control of,and one of the rare few facts (if indeed that so) that I doubt if there is any need to share with the public.
It can be interesting to know if NASA can predict wich part of earth will be effected and on what scale, when the comet will cross our bow..

[bilko]

do,nt look too good for us.
wonder when we are able to see it in the sky.
what do we do start stockpiling food?
but do,nt see much piont ,if it can do that sort of damage in japan and NZ.from the distance its at now.
it looks like sep ....well i can,t even begin to comprehend.

Best option - use jumproom to Mars and use your handy "universal pass" to join "those" underground.

Next best option - got a pass for the DUMBS???

Several options jury still out on ... but not looking marverlous.

Last option - party like it's 1999 :party:

All options - long as you remember you are not this frail "earth suit" then it is all good ... just yet another learning experience.

IMHO
I have a bottle of rum that i never touch for when all else fails. Maybe i should put a deck chair with it so i can enjoy the view at the same time.

[SKIBADABOMSKI]

I just listened to all of that radio interview.... Then I watched this 5 second video and smiled again.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74AzD2wfu-g

[ponda]

Comet Elenin isn't the only show in town this year and next.Two other comets are in our neighborhood.Comet Honda and Comet Levy won't be all that far away.

There's some info and about these other comets as well as some alignment dates etc on this video.The guy who made the vid has some other interesting videos at his youtube site.

Also i heard an internet radio show recently where an astronomer said that they had received some unusual measurements from observing Elenin.He implied that the measurements seemed to infer that Elenin didn't appear to be a natural formation/object.Or maybe they just don't what it is.

youtube video site:

http://www.youtube.com/user/markinportland2008#p/u/0/Dmjdjf9SeFw

video link:

http://youtu.be/Dmjdjf9SeFw


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dmjdjf9SeFw&feature=channel_video_title
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dmjdjf9SeFw&feature=channel_video_title

[Calz]

One thing I forgot to add ... and though I have made no attempt to confirm this astrologically ... I have heard it from other sources:

There was a suggestion that there was an astrological/astronomical linkage tying the comet to both the chile and japan earthquakes (not saying there was no haarp boost ... just suggesting there *may* have been some natural phenomenon going on as well.

[kersley]

Elenin will not destroy the Earth. :) Another view that worth as much as all the survival mindset ideas outhere.

http://astrobob.areavoices.com/2011/04/04/comet-elenin-will-not-destroy-the-earth/

Quotes: 'Much baloney has been sliced about the comet or its tail striking the Earth and wreaking havoc. The truth is Comet Elenin is so tiny, its gravitational effect on Earth is practically zero. Even at closest approach it’s still 21 million miles away. Every few years we get almost that close to Venus (23.7 million miles), a rocky planet nearly the same size as our own, and don’t suffer any ill effects. Like the comet, its pull on Earth is tiny, tiny, tiny.' End of the quotes.

http://img718.imageshack.us/img718/1968/elenindistance.jpg

Stop worrying about Elenin, it is a waste.

Namaste, Steven

Thank you Steven. I feel a lot better now. Do you have any other good news you'll like to share? Anything, just as long it's good..

[Steven]

Thank you Steven. I feel a lot better now. Do you have any other good news you'll like to share? Anything, just as long it's good..

I'm glad my post settle a bit of tension and stress. I have this for you, it is modest, but happiness lives in a modest house :)

http://worldwidegoodnews.com/blog/

Namaste, Steven

[Referee]

NASA has done nothing but lie to everyone. Consider Bob Dean's thoughts on the US Space command. In one of Bob's interviews he said something would come by close to us. Just a thought.

[SKIBADABOMSKI]

This is spooky. Is it accurate?

Past Alignments
Date
Location
Magnitude




Elenin - Earth - Sun
Feb 20 2008
Indonesia
7.4

Elenin - Earth - Sun
Feb 25 2008
Indonesia
7.2

Elenin - Earth - Neptune
May 12 2008
China
7.9

Elenin - Earth - Sun
Feb 18 2009
Kermadec Islands
7.0

Elenin - Earth -Jupiter
May 18 2009
Los Angeles, US
4.7

Elenin - Mercury- Earth
July 15 2009
New Zealand
7.8

Elenin - Mercury - Earth
Aug 09 2009
Japan
7.1

Elenin - Sun - Earth
Sept 09 2009
Sunola islands
8.1

Elenin - Earth - Venus
Feb 18 2010
China/RU/N.Korea
6.9

Elenin - Earth-Sun
Feb 25 2010
China
5.2

Elenin - Earth-Sun
Feb 26 2010
Japan
7.0

Elenin - Earth- Sun
Feb 27 2010
Chile
8.8 [Earth knocked off axis]

Elenin - Earth- Sun
Feb 27 2010
Argentina
6.3

Elenin - Earth - Mercury
Mar 04 2010
Taiwan
6.3

Elenin - Earth - Mercury
Mar 04 2010
Vanuatu
6.5

Elenin - Earth - Mercury
Mar 05 2010
Chile
6.6

Elenin - Earth - Mercury
Mar 05 2010
Indonesia
6.3

Elenin - Earth - Mercury
Mar 08 2010
Turkey
6.1

Elenin - Earth - Neptune
May 05 2010
Indonesia
6.6

Elenin - Earth - Neptune
May 06 2010
Chile
6.2

Elenin - Earth - Neptune
May 09 2010
Indonesia
7.2

Elenin - Earth - Neptune
May 14 2010
Algeria
5.2

Elenin - Earth - Jupiter
Jan 03 2011
Chile
7.0

Elenin - Earth - Sun
March 11 2011
Japan
9.0 [Earth knocked off axis]





Future Elenin Allurements:

Future Alignments
Date
Note

Elenin - Mercury - Mars - Earth
Sept 06 2011

Mercury - Sun - Elenin
Sept 25 2011

Sun - Elenin - Jupiter
Oct 11 2011
Elenin 0.246au from Earth; that’s a quarter of the distance to the sun.

Oct 17 2011
Elenin closet to earth 0.232au

Oct 20 2011
Elenin will enter Earth orbit and we will experience a gravitational pull.

Nov 02 2011
Earth enter Elenins tail/ previous path
Venus - Earth- Elenin - Mercury

Nov 11 2011
Sun - Mercury - Earth - Elenin
Dec 04 2011

Mars - Elenin - Jupiter
Dec 25 2011


Last Alignment

Elenin - Earth - Sun
Dec 21 2012

I'm not trying to fear monger. I just wanted to know what you thought about it.

Thanks

Ski-

[Calz]

I had only heard about the chile and japan alignments ...

wow ... if that is legit then you have really presented some important information.

Did you piece that together yourself or is there a link to be had?

Regardless ... super work!!!

[Calz]

This is spooky. Is it accurate?

Past Alignments
Date
Location
Magnitude




Elenin - Earth - Sun
Feb 20 2008
Indonesia
7.4

Elenin - Earth - Sun
Feb 25 2008
Indonesia
7.2

Elenin - Earth - Neptune
May 12 2008
China
7.9

Elenin - Earth - Sun
Feb 18 2009
Kermadec Islands
7.0

Elenin - Earth -Jupiter
May 18 2009
Los Angeles, US
4.7

Elenin - Mercury- Earth
July 15 2009
New Zealand
7.8

Elenin - Mercury - Earth
Aug 09 2009
Japan
7.1

Elenin - Sun - Earth
Sept 09 2009
Sunola islands
8.1

Elenin - Earth - Venus
Feb 18 2010
China/RU/N.Korea
6.9

Elenin - Earth-Sun
Feb 25 2010
China
5.2

Elenin - Earth-Sun
Feb 26 2010
Japan
7.0

Elenin - Earth- Sun
Feb 27 2010
Chile
8.8 [Earth knocked off axis]

Elenin - Earth- Sun
Feb 27 2010
Argentina
6.3

Elenin - Earth - Mercury
Mar 04 2010
Taiwan
6.3

Elenin - Earth - Mercury
Mar 04 2010
Vanuatu
6.5

Elenin - Earth - Mercury
Mar 05 2010
Chile
6.6

Elenin - Earth - Mercury
Mar 05 2010
Indonesia
6.3

Elenin - Earth - Mercury
Mar 08 2010
Turkey
6.1

Elenin - Earth - Neptune
May 05 2010
Indonesia
6.6

Elenin - Earth - Neptune
May 06 2010
Chile
6.2

Elenin - Earth - Neptune
May 09 2010
Indonesia
7.2

Elenin - Earth - Neptune
May 14 2010
Algeria
5.2

Elenin - Earth - Jupiter
Jan 03 2011
Chile
7.0

Elenin - Earth - Sun
March 11 2011
Japan
9.0 [Earth knocked off axis]





Future Elenin Allurements:

Future Alignments
Date
Note

Elenin - Mercury - Mars - Earth
Sept 06 2011

Mercury - Sun - Elenin
Sept 25 2011

Sun - Elenin - Jupiter
Oct 11 2011
Elenin 0.246au from Earth; that’s a quarter of the distance to the sun.

Oct 17 2011
Elenin closet to earth 0.232au

Oct 20 2011
Elenin will enter Earth orbit and we will experience a gravitational pull.

Nov 02 2011
Earth enter Elenins tail/ previous path
Venus - Earth- Elenin - Mercury

Nov 11 2011
Sun - Mercury - Earth - Elenin
Dec 04 2011

Mars - Elenin - Jupiter
Dec 25 2011


Last Alignment

Elenin - Earth - Sun
Dec 21 2012

I'm not trying to fear monger. I just found this chart and wanted to know what you thought about it.

Thanks

Ski-

Ummm ... anyone see a pattern here or what????????????????

[truthseekerdan]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qECsvXXPPKQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qECsvXXPPKQ

[greybeard]

Quite a few are seeing this and it is not coincidence.
David Sereda on Coast to Coast am from sometime back and recently saying the same thing

There is a more recent one--- if you do a search you will find it.

Chris



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNgUdg2NAmc

[truthseekerdan]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFh_npXhYYI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFh_npXhYYI

http://sites.google.com/site/omerbashich/

Have Fun!

[Calz]

Speaking from a strictly numerical analysis ... that is *NO* ordinary comet (if those numbers are true). :faint:

[greybeard]

Quite a few of the ancient prophecies forecast three days of darkness, now if this is a brown dwarf or something bigger than a comet it could possibly block out the sun light for three days as it passes between Earth and the Sun.
We will know all to soon.

Chris

[Lord Sidious]

Speaking from a strictly numerical analysis ... that is *NO* ordinary comet (if those numbers are true). :faint:

James Horak says that it has no tail, changes direction and speed and appears to have a guidance system because of it.


Quite a few of the ancient prophecies forecast three days of darkness, now if this is a brown dwarf or something bigger than a comet it could possibly block out the sun light for three days as it passes between Earth and the Sun.
We will know all to soon.

Chris

Or it could kick up so much debris into the atmosphere, it blocks out the sun.

[Calz]

Quite a few of the ancient prophecies forecast three days of darkness, now if this is a brown dwarf or something bigger than a comet it could possibly block out the sun light for three days as it passes between Earth and the Sun.
We will know all to soon.

Chris

I don't believe it is a "blocking of the sun" type of event.

[Lettherebelight]

Hmmm, fwiw, my Dad used to work for NASA, only recently retiring from the Defence industry (design engineer). He is pretty sharp on astronomy... yesterday he said that Elenin is not big enough to cause havoc with Earth and that it would complete its circuit without disaster.

It's difficult to know definitively, what the deal is with Elenin.

[Calz]

Hmmm, fwiw, my Dad used to work for NASA, only recently retiring from the Defence industry (design engineer). He is pretty sharp on astronomy... yesterday he said that Elenin is not big enough to cause havoc with Earth and that it would complete its circuit without disaster.

It's difficult to know definitively, what the deal is with Elenin.

The lie is different at every level ... hoagland.

*If* the numbers Ski found are accurate (and I mentioned that the chile and japan have been brought up from other sources as well) then that is worth some serious contemplation ... is it not???

[SKIBADABOMSKI]

Sorry if that spooked you.. but for obvious reasons when it comes to earthquakes I have a huge interest. I scout hundreds of sites and watch a lot of stuff regarding this issue.

I forgot where I got the link from (one sec whilst I open new page and check my bookmarks) but I copied and pasted it as soon as I saw it and now the subject has risen it's ugly head again I remembered and ...

AHA !! found the link. OK here you go.

http://www.ufo-blogger.com/2011/04/nasa-elenin-2011-comet-planetary.html

Of course I'm really hoping it's just nothing but imagine if it was true. Imagine if the only reason NASA and the media will start letting us all know about this soon is because it's already checkmate. We'd be kicking ourselves in 3 months.

Hopefully this is all just strange coincidences that the elites have taken advantage of. They see an alignment coming and attack on that day. Thats what worries me more. They'll use the alignments as an excuse to do whatever they please. Maybe this is one of the issues making elites fight amongst themselves.

They all want a piece of this cake.

But regardless the pattern is there. They have the perfect alibi.

Ski-

[Calz]

Sorry if that spooked you.. but for obvious reasons when it comes to earthquakes I have a huge interest. I scout hundreds of sites and watch a lot of stuff regarding this issue.

I forgot where I got the link from (one sec whilst I open new page and check my bookmarks) but I copied and pasted it as soon as I saw it and now the subject has risen it's ugly head again I remembered and ...

AHA !! found the link. OK here you go.

http://www.ufo-blogger.com/2011/04/nasa-elenin-2011-comet-planetary.html

Of course I'm really hoping it's just nothing but imagine if it was true. Imagine if the only reason NASA and the media will start letting us all know about this soon is because it's already checkmate. We'd be kicking ourselves in 3 months.

Hopefully this is all just strange coincidences that the elites have taken advantage of. They see an alignment coming and attack on that day. Thats what worries me more. They'll use the alignments as an excuse to do whatever they please. Maybe this is one of the issues making elites fight amongst themselves.

They all want a piece of this cake.

But regardless the pattern is there. They have the perfect alibi.

Ski-

A million thank yous :thank_you2: for posting this and following with the link.

*If* this can be confirmed ... it could well be one of the most important posts ever on Avalon (and that is really saying something).

Spooked???

I am here for the truth as are many. Why in the world would you apologize for a major connection of dots (if verified)??? :hail:

If you are still hangin in Japan I hope all is well with you :)

[blufire]

You know how when you are reading and studying something and all the sudden a BIG piece of the puzzle falls into place and you feel all tingly and prickly . . . . . well I feel like a blend of a pin cushion, porcupine and hedgehog right now reading these alignments

Thank you so much for connecting these particular dots.. . . .




This is spooky. Is it accurate?

Past Alignments
Date
Location
Magnitude




Elenin - Earth - Sun
Feb 20 2008
Indonesia
7.4

Elenin - Earth - Sun
Feb 25 2008
Indonesia
7.2

Elenin - Earth - Neptune
May 12 2008
China
7.9

Elenin - Earth - Sun
Feb 18 2009
Kermadec Islands
7.0

Elenin - Earth -Jupiter
May 18 2009
Los Angeles, US
4.7

Elenin - Mercury- Earth
July 15 2009
New Zealand
7.8

Elenin - Mercury - Earth
Aug 09 2009
Japan
7.1

Elenin - Sun - Earth
Sept 09 2009
Sunola islands
8.1

Elenin - Earth - Venus
Feb 18 2010
China/RU/N.Korea
6.9

Elenin - Earth-Sun
Feb 25 2010
China
5.2

Elenin - Earth-Sun
Feb 26 2010
Japan
7.0

Elenin - Earth- Sun
Feb 27 2010
Chile
8.8 [Earth knocked off axis]

Elenin - Earth- Sun
Feb 27 2010
Argentina
6.3

Elenin - Earth - Mercury
Mar 04 2010
Taiwan
6.3

Elenin - Earth - Mercury
Mar 04 2010
Vanuatu
6.5

Elenin - Earth - Mercury
Mar 05 2010
Chile
6.6

Elenin - Earth - Mercury
Mar 05 2010
Indonesia
6.3

Elenin - Earth - Mercury
Mar 08 2010
Turkey
6.1

Elenin - Earth - Neptune
May 05 2010
Indonesia
6.6

Elenin - Earth - Neptune
May 06 2010
Chile
6.2

Elenin - Earth - Neptune
May 09 2010
Indonesia
7.2

Elenin - Earth - Neptune
May 14 2010
Algeria
5.2

Elenin - Earth - Jupiter
Jan 03 2011
Chile
7.0

Elenin - Earth - Sun
March 11 2011
Japan
9.0 [Earth knocked off axis]





Future Elenin Allurements:

Future Alignments
Date
Note

Elenin - Mercury - Mars - Earth
Sept 06 2011

Mercury - Sun - Elenin
Sept 25 2011

Sun - Elenin - Jupiter
Oct 11 2011
Elenin 0.246au from Earth; that’s a quarter of the distance to the sun.

Oct 17 2011
Elenin closet to earth 0.232au

Oct 20 2011
Elenin will enter Earth orbit and we will experience a gravitational pull.

Nov 02 2011
Earth enter Elenins tail/ previous path
Venus - Earth- Elenin - Mercury

Nov 11 2011
Sun - Mercury - Earth - Elenin
Dec 04 2011

Mars - Elenin - Jupiter
Dec 25 2011


Last Alignment

Elenin - Earth - Sun
Dec 21 2012

I'm not trying to fear monger. I just found this chart and wanted to know what you thought about it.

Thanks

Ski-

Ummm ... anyone see a pattern here or what????????????????

[SKIBADABOMSKI]

Sorry if that spooked you.. but for obvious reasons when it comes to earthquakes I have a huge interest. I scout hundreds of sites and watch a lot of stuff regarding this issue.

I forgot where I got the link from (one sec whilst I open new page and check my bookmarks) but I copied and pasted it as soon as I saw it and now the subject has risen it's ugly head again I remembered and ...

AHA !! found the link. OK here you go.

http://www.ufo-blogger.com/2011/04/nasa-elenin-2011-comet-planetary.html

Of course I'm really hoping it's just nothing but imagine if it was true. Imagine if the only reason NASA and the media will start letting us all know about this soon is because it's already checkmate. We'd be kicking ourselves in 3 months.

Hopefully this is all just strange coincidences that the elites have taken advantage of. They see an alignment coming and attack on that day. Thats what worries me more. They'll use the alignments as an excuse to do whatever they please. Maybe this is one of the issues making elites fight amongst themselves.

They all want a piece of this cake.

But regardless the pattern is there. They have the perfect alibi.

Ski-

A million thank yous :thank_you2: for posting this and following with the link.

*If* this can be confirmed ... it could well be one of the most important posts ever on Avalon (and that is really saying something).

Spooked???

I am here for the truth as are many. Why in the world would you apologize for a major connection of dots (if verified)??? :hail:

If you are still hangin in Japan I hope all is well with you :)

Maybe the media picks up on the alignment thing and everyone panics and this is all part of the new fear they want to install. Maybe then they'll publicly use HARRP to prevent the earthquakes and stuff. The False flag HARRP saved the world scenario .. lol I remember someone once saying " HARRP will be involved but not in the way you think"

OK I'm off to bed, enough for today.

Yes I'm still hanging in Japan. And all is very well thank you.

Cheers
Ski-

[thunder24]

This is spooky. Is it accurate?

Past Alignments
Date
Location
Magnitude

...
Last Alignment

Elenin - Earth - Sun
Dec 21 2012

I'm not trying to fear monger. I just wanted to know what you thought about it.

Thanks

Ski-

what up ski, glad to see you posting.
question, in the data it says that the earths was knocked off of axis in two different places. After the first time, did the earth realign itself, and get knocked off axis again, or was it ever back on axis from the first time?
peace

[truthseekerdan]

I'm back guys... Here's what I found. Check the link below:

Planetary Alignments with Comet ELEnin Causing Big Earthquakes (http://www.ufo-blogger.com/2011/04/nasa-elenin-2011-comet-planetary.html)

7449

Hope it helps. Much Love,

Dan

[paul1972]

" Oct 20 2011: Elenin will enter Earth orbit and we will experience a gravitational pull."

Guess.. considering the fact it's my date of birth..I am gonna have a party, like it's 1999...

Love

Paul1972

[GlassSteagallfan]

You know how when you are reading and studying something and all the sudden a BIG piece of the puzzle falls into place and you feel all tingly and prickly . . . . . well I feel like a blend of a pin cushion, porcupine and hedgehog right now reading these alignments

Thank you so much for connecting these particular dots.. . . .




This is spooky. Is it accurate?

...
I'm not trying to fear monger. I just found this chart and wanted to know what you thought about it.

Thanks

Ski-

Ummm ... anyone see a pattern here or what????????????????

I don't see the pattern, just a bunch of alignments. Could you clear me up on this?
Thanks

[nearing]

My "It's a Comet..." thread addresses this same issue, can we combine the threads?

[DouglasDanger]

You know how when you are reading and studying something and all the sudden a BIG piece of the puzzle falls into place and you feel all tingly and prickly . . . . . well I feel like a blend of a pin cushion, porcupine and hedgehog right now reading these alignments

Thank you so much for connecting these particular dots.. . . .




This is spooky. Is it accurate?

...
I'm not trying to fear monger. I just found this chart and wanted to know what you thought about it.

Thanks

Ski-

Ummm ... anyone see a pattern here or what????????????????

I don't see the pattern, just a bunch of alignments. Could you clear me up on this?
Thanks

I do.....

If its just a piddle little comet not realy effecting anything, then the PTB who run harrp have a guide of when to fire harrp up and blast it at targets they don't like, blaming it on Elenin Effects and have been for some time..

Or Saying the comet ( when its in its closest proximity)is an alien invasion to Start up Project Blue Beam and have been firing thier harrp like weapons at us the entire time causing the earth quakes etc..

I smell something funny...

[Njord]

Did anyone happen to see the 'Smallville' series finale?

Yes I did.
And with all we know about top secret info being placed into the MSM, I found it very interesting.
Me and a friend was watching it... and when that "red planet" showed up heading towards earth it rang a bell in my head.
We both looked at each other, smiled, and said in unison... "Nibiru" hehe.

But on topic...
NASA can say and do what they want. I don't believe a word of anything they are saying.
When the amateur stargazers have something concrete, I'll listen.
Until then, it is just another interesting anomaly to me.

The interveiws were interesting though. Some new theories there I hadn't considered.
I liked the part about Elenin showing signs of being under "intelligent control", going through the asteroid belt.
And the orbiting objects... maybe we can see some better pictures once it gets closer.

But again... it's hard to know what is fact and disinfo/fiction in this day and age.
Least of all, whom to listen to. (which is why I'm on Avalon among other things hehe)

I just hope it isn't some "snake" aliens come to eat us :eek:

*I've had it with snakes on this mother F*ing plane-t* :laser::alien:

[ponda]

I think it might be interesting to keep an eye on our friend the Sun during the lead up to some of these alignment dates.

Here's a date adjustable Comet Elenin browser where you can see where Elenin is on any given date and also see when the planets start to line up etc :

http://ssd.jpl.nasa.gov/sbdb.cgi?sstr=C%2F2010%20X1;orb=1;cov=0;log=0;cad=0

Here's the Comet Levy browser:

http://ssd.jpl.nasa.gov/sbdb.cgi?ID=dK06T010;orb=1;cov=0;log=0;cad=1#orb

The Comet Honda browser:

http://ssd.jpl.nasa.gov/sbdb.cgi?sstr=45P%2FHonda-Mrkos-Pajdusakova;orb=1;cov=0;log=0;cad=0#orb


Nov 11 2011
Sun - Mercury - Earth - Elenin
Dec 04 2011

Interestingly i'm fairly sure that Comet Levy is close(not direct) to alignment on this date as well.(Dec 4th)

Comet Honda alignment dates: August 1st 2011,August 31st 2011 and April 5th 2012

Comet Levy alignment dates: October 18th 2011,January 17th 2012 and February 29th 2012

[Calz]

I don't see the pattern, just a bunch of alignments. Could you clear me up on this?
Thanks

The ones highlighted in red involve the sun (plus one in blue).

Those were the major quakes :)

[Calz]

From Kerry's Blog:


I asked Andy Lloyd, author of Dark Star, to share his thoughts on Comet Elenin

"Thanks Kerry - you spurred me into action to blog this onto the Dark Star site:

Comet Elenin

2012 is nearly upon us, and there is great concern that an in-coming Planet X body might bring catastrophe to our fragile world. The environmental calamities of recent times do not augur well. There has been a spate of earthquakes around the globe; Chile, Japan, New Zealand. Even Spain has not escaped our planet's seismic ripples, on the very same day that an earthquake was predicted for Rome almost 100 years ago (1).


Predicting earthquakes is practically impossible, we are told, unless, of course, you're a small animal sensitive to mysterious fluctuations before the quake strikes.
Comet Elenin is currently moving through the solar system (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C/2010_X1) . Many have expressed concerns about this body, which appears to have disappointed astronomers with its relatively pathetic celestial showing (2). But it's appearance preludes the 2012 period we are moving into, so it's reasonable to ask whether this small comet might be the first of many, or even the front rider for a much more substantive body. YouTube is bubbling over with rumours.


Amid the hype, there is an intriguing bit of science. An academic from Cornell University, Mensur Omerbashich, has presented a paper outlining his assertion that there is a tangible link between cosmic alignments and seismic activity on Earth, based upon his theory of hyperresonance (3). He presents evidence that some earthquakes are coincident with planetary alignments, or with Full Moons. He argues that the Comet Elenin is a case in point - it has been noted that it was on the exact opposite side of the Sun to us during the Japanese earthquake and tsunami. From this data he extrapolates:


"The Elenin will continue intensifying the Earth's very strong seismicity until August-October, 2011. Approximate forecast of earthquakes based on my discoveries is feasible." (3)
And there's the thing. Could Omerbashich's theory predict earthquakes from planetary, cometary and lunar alignments? Does the Earth respond to such cosmic goings on, performing some kind of seismic astrology? Did Elenin really cause the Japanese quake? To give credence to his theory, Omerbashich needs to pick up the trail of a future in-coming comet and plot its course until an alignment is achieved with the Earth and Sun, and then predict trouble here on Earth ahead of time. If he's proven right, then we should all sit up and take notice. And if you listen to the many concerned voices on the internet about 2012, then such a predictive tool cannot come soon enough.
Andy Lloyd, 15th May 2011

[truthseekerdan]

"This is going to be the most extraordinary communication so fasten your seat-belts; we are in for a rough ride. I have known in my heart for months that I would have to make a communication like this but had no idea it would be this soon. Back in January, while investigating the underground city that is alleged to have been built under the new Denver Airport, reported on by the former governor Jesse Ventura, I put the puzzle together and came to the conclusion that a planetary event was in store for us in 2012."


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLSPaIdiQXQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLSPaIdiQXQ

[bennycog]

http://blog.imva.info/world-affairs/bad-news-nasa

it has been posted before but here is the link to the info again.. i remember someone saying sorcha is involved but is he always going to be misleading?

[Calz]

I do.....

If its just a piddle little comet not realy effecting anything, then the PTB who run harrp have a guide of when to fire harrp up and blast it at targets they don't like, blaming it on Elenin Effects and have been for some time..

Or Saying the comet ( when its in its closest proximity)is an alien invasion to Start up Project Blue Beam and have been firing thier harrp like weapons at us the entire time causing the earth quakes etc..

I smell something funny...

If, in fact, it turns out to be a "normal" comet then I would have to agree.

There were many people who caught, captured and *hopefully* saved the screendumps showing the haarp activity at the time of japan's quake.

Seems a bit of a stretch at this point. Won't know until this plays itself out further.

[Calz]

http://blog.imva.info/world-affairs/bad-news-nasa

it has been posted before but here is the link to the info again.. i remember someone saying sorcha is involved but is he always going to be misleading?

I did a quickie scan through this link as well as the one SKI provided and didn't see Sorcha mentioned.

If that is true then that would throw some water on it for sure.

We need to get this verified.

[truthseekerdan]

http://blog.imva.info/world-affairs/bad-news-nasa

it has been posted before but here is the link to the info again.. i remember someone saying sorcha is involved but is he always going to be misleading?

I did a quickie scan through this link as well as the one SKI provided and didn't see Sorcha mentioned.

If that is true then that would throw some water on it for sure.

We need to get this verified.

Calz, see the link on my last post here with the youtube vid...

[Calz]

http://blog.imva.info/world-affairs/bad-news-nasa

it has been posted before but here is the link to the info again.. i remember someone saying sorcha is involved but is he always going to be misleading?

I did a quickie scan through this link as well as the one SKI provided and didn't see Sorcha mentioned.

If that is true then that would throw some water on it for sure.

We need to get this verified.

Calz, see the link on my last post here with the youtube vid...

Fascinating ... thanks truthseekerdan :)

Still getting caught up on the latest posts ... and will have to wait until I get home to see the vid (at work behind firewall) but eagerly await doing so.

[truthseekerdan]

Some more for you Calz... :)

Is Elenin a Spaceship?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m43Axb5M18c

http://thetruthbehindthescenes.wordpress.com/2011/05/05/scientists-says-comet-elenin-has-massive-ufo-fleet-following-in-formation-in-its-tail/

[Calz]

Some more for you Calz... :)

Is Elenin a Spaceship?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m43Axb5M18c

http://thetruthbehindthescenes.wordpress.com/2011/05/05/scientists-says-comet-elenin-has-massive-ufo-fleet-following-in-formation-in-its-tail/

Thanks again :)

Could well be ... plenty of craft around ... even allegedly planet sized.

From my response to listening to the mp3 Operator posted:


There was no consensus on what the "object" is. Comet (but oddities), Brown Dwarf and interestingly there was a *brief* reference to the possibility it was being "intelligently navigated" in the manner in which it had come through the asteroid belt.

Hmmmm.

[ThePythonicCow]

My "It's a Comet..." thread addresses this same issue, can we combine the threads?

I don't always merge two threads on the same issue. It depends on whether I think that the merged result would be a better thread than the two separate threads. In this case, your It's a comet, it's a planet x, but is it really a brown dwarf? (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?20411-It-s-a-comet-it-s-a-planet-x-but-is-it-really-a-brown-dwarf) thread is sufficiently different in content, active dates and discussion that it is worth keeping separate, in my view.

[truthseekerdan]

Even the russians are saying that is a "Controlled" Comet:

http://thewatchers.adorraeli.com/2011/03/01/russian-warning-issued-over-%E2%80%9Ccontrolled%E2%80%9D-comet-headed-towards-earth/

[Calz]

Even the russians are saying that is a "Controlled" Comet:

http://thewatchers.adorraeli.com/2011/03/01/russian-warning-issued-over-%E2%80%9Ccontrolled%E2%80%9D-comet-headed-towards-earth/



Most ominous in Minister Serdyukov’s report is his assertion that Comet Elenin appears to be in “direct contact” with the mysterious Jupiter-sized planet discovered beyond the orbit of Pluto that is, also, headed inbound towards our Sun.
Fascinating :)


7455

[Lord Sidious]

So who do you think is piloting that ''comet'' that we are awaiting?

[Calz]

So who do you think is piloting that ''comet'' that we are awaiting?

Well ... autopilot guess would be connecting the nuggets regarding the Aryans???


*** adding more from truthseekerdan's thewatchers link ***

To the identity of those extraterrestrial forces controlling Comet Elenin our world had been forewarned about by the former Canadian Defense Minister, Paul Hellyer, who stated about them: “Decades ago, visitors from other planets warned us about where we were headed and offered to help. But instead we, or at least some of us, interpreted their visits as a threat, and decided to shoot first and ask questions after.”

As to those “visitors from other planets” referred to by Minister Hellyer we can further glean from the memo sent to President Franklin Roosevelt (1882-1945) by his Army Chief of Staff George Marshall (1880-1959) [reprinted below in its entirety] about what is now referred to as “The Battle of Los Angeles” where American Forces fired upon a UFO fleet shortly after their countries entrance into World War II.


*** and from truthseekerdan's thetruthbehindthescenes link ***

Based on reports published by China’s space agency, Sergio Toscano, director for Astronomical Research in Missions, said that behind the comet Elenin could be approaching a UFO.

“Behind the comet, discovered in December last year, Chinese scientists say that is something they called cluster, which means globular cluster, or perhaps alien spacecraft,” said Toscano.

According to the report quotes the astronomer mission, the space body would be found in the comet’s tail and was analyzed after the mysterious signals that came off of an unknown formation “strange and obscure.”

In the words of Toscano, the Chinese have said that the spacecraft is stationed in the same place for ninety days, ”before that looked like it was coming from an extraterrestrial civilization,” said Argentine scientist.

According to the Daily Chronicle, this phenomenon was corroborated by Rosie Redfiel, the new director of the Program of NASA’s Astrobiology. ”But when NASA began to make calculations and projections of orbit of the comet, they realized that something was wrong and the first thing they did was remove the website which provided information on this issue,” said Toscano.

[truthseekerdan]

So who do you think is piloting that ''comet'' that we are awaiting?

Nuggets with lots of carrots... :biggrin1:

Bed time for me. :brushteeth:

Cheers

[ponda]

It's quite possible that the more people that are aware of these alignment dates then the less chance that there might be of something catastrophic occurring.I'm thinking of the 'observer effect'.


The Observer Effect (information technology)

In information technology, the observer effect is the potential impact of the act of observing a process output while the process is running. For example: if a process uses a log file to record its progress, the process could slow. Furthermore, the act of viewing the file while the process is running could cause an I/O error in the process, which could, in turn, cause it to stop.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Observer_effect_(information_technology)



The Observer Effect (physics)

In physics, the term observer effect refers to changes that the act of observation will make on the phenomenon being observed.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Observer_effect_(physics)



I don't think that many people were aware of the Elenin alignment dates prior to the Chile,NZ and Japan quakes so i'm hoping that as more and more people become aware of the future alignment dates that this will diminish the chances of and/or lessen the effects of any possible negative outcomes that might occur because of the alignments.The same goes for when/if we pass through the debris trail of Elenin.We might be lucky enough to witness a spectacular cosmic display without any other associated problems.

[manny]

So who do you think is piloting that ''comet'' that we are awaiting?
1.a bunch of juvenile aliens out on a joyride.in a massive spacecraft.
2.they got our message at long last .from Voyager....when they get here do you think they will be disappionted.
3.they,er coming to save all the animals,not us,that we are killing off.
4.all the gold and silver has been collected for them and now they here for it.
5.we,er waking up .they don,t like it,time to start over.
6.they should get here in time for the january sales.
7.mother earth has sent a distress signal out.
8.time is ripe for harvesting.
9.they,er late for the royal wedding.
10.doe,s it matter it,s heading this way.enjoy the ride.exciting times we are in.;)

or is he the fourth horseman.?

[bennycog]

http://blog.imva.info/world-affairs/bad-news-nasa

it has been posted before but here is the link to the info again.. i remember someone saying sorcha is involved but is he always going to be misleading?

I did a quickie scan through this link as well as the one SKI provided and didn't see Sorcha mentioned.

If that is true then that would throw some water on it for sure.

We need to get this verified.

http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index1441.htm
this is the story i was thinking of sorry.. sifting through too many threads here too quickly lol
Mental note not to dismiss everything straight up as hogwash..

So not verified sorcha guys.. be safe..
I guess this does bring up a question though. How do you determine the truth from the lie.. and why oh why oh why are there sooooo many red herrings placed around us.. and how does every single person that they use to bring these herrings (salty nuggets :) ) to us, live with the feeling that they are betraying the world?
because there are just so many of them.. politicians.. respected army personnel.. doctors.. scientists.. the ones that put the stories together for the media.. every person in front of a camera for the mainstream media.. long list follows
They are all involved and have to know it one way or another. It just boggles the mind how many people can be involved to make those lies believable. And the one thing i do not want to believe is that so many people can actually play their part and still walk around smiling :) big smiles :) happy with what they are doing..
And why can we see? why do we see through it? why do we hide amongst them pretending we believe the same thing and then when they are not looking roll our eyes?

[loveandgratitude]

So who do you think is piloting that ''comet'' that we are awaiting?


Lord Sid,
Since you are the only person here with the experience and training to land on this thing, to report back to Avalon, we are preparing and getting your craft ready as we speak.
thanks ...........dont mention it7456

[SKIBADABOMSKI]

So who do you think is piloting that ''comet'' that we are awaiting?

http://i29.tinypic.com/21dfkm9.jpg

[Oxygen]

I wonder how difficult it is to tell the difference between a comet and a brown dwarf.
NASA can`t be trusted on this anyway but the 1000s of amateur astronomers can`t all be silenced.
Does anyone know how difficult it is to tell the difference? Is it impossible at this stage for an amateur astronomer , or should they already be able to tell ?

[Calz]

I wonder how difficult it is to tell the difference between a comet and a brown dwarf.
NASA can`t be trusted on this anyway but the 1000s of amateur astronomers can`t all be silenced.
Does anyone know how difficult it is to tell the difference? Is it impossible at this stage for an amateur astronomer , or should they already be able to tell ?

dwarf should show up on infrared much sooner than naked eye light spectrum.

[Lord Sidious]

So who do you think is piloting that ''comet'' that we are awaiting?


Lord Sid,
Since you are the only person here with the experience and training to land on this thing, to report back to Avalon, we are preparing and getting your craft ready as we speak.
thanks ...........dont mention it7456

No need, I have already got an imperial fleet on the way.
Executor in the lead with star destroyers in support, they are almost there.
They are under orders to make contact and no engagements.


http://images.wikia.com/starwars/images/e/e6/TheHandOfGod-ESBHD.jpg

[ulli]

Planetary line-ups definitely go hand in hand with increased earth quake activity. I have accurately predicted several.
Where it gets really spooky is when you check a line up against a country's birth chart.

When I was attending classes in astrology we were given two dates without being told what they stood for until AFTER we had analyzed the correlations, which were amazing.

The two dates were of the June 1976 earthquake that hit China with a massive death toll and the other date was the day the People's Republic of China was founded, IOW, China's birth date. So, go figure.


The biggest line-up and the one I invested more fear in than any other was May 5th, 2000. And I went through a near death experience at Houston airport...looking back on it it was quite funny.
What happened on that day tought me more about fear and consciousness, and mostly my own consciousness, than anything else.
Since my childhood during the fifties so many end time scenarios have come and gone that nowadays I only point out that, yes, it's a good idea to prepare, but it will all be a lot less dramatic than we tend to imagine.
Don't have the TV high up in a precarious position where it can fall on someone's head.
But even that is likely to cause less damage than years and years of watching crap news.

[thunder24]

So who do you think is piloting that ''comet'' that we are awaiting?

Lord Sid,
remember last nights discussion, its guys in loincloths
peace

[Operator]

Some more for you Calz... :)

Is Elenin a Spaceship?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m43Axb5M18c

http://thetruthbehindthescenes.wordpress.com/2011/05/05/scientists-says-comet-elenin-has-massive-ufo-fleet-following-in-formation-in-its-tail/

When I look at this video 3d Tetris come to mind :p

Edit: on a more serious note ...
It may not even be right to list all the alignments ... I can argue that each day there was an alignment the sun came up and there is a pattern there.
There are lots of earthquakes each day ... so maybe it's not that hard to find one above 6+
The pattern can only be proven when there are no 6+ quakes on other days.

[Mike Gorman]

Some more for you Calz... :)

Is Elenin a Spaceship?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m43Axb5M18c

http://thetruthbehindthescenes.wordpress.com/2011/05/05/scientists-says-comet-elenin-has-massive-ufo-fleet-following-in-formation-in-its-tail/

When I look at this video 3d Tetris come to mind :p

Edit: on a more serious note ...
It may not even be right to list all the alignments ... I can argue that each day there was an alignment the sun came up and there is a pattern there.
There are lots of earthquakes each day ... so maybe it's not that hard to find one above 6+
The pattern can only be proven when there are no 6+ quakes on other days.
RESISTANCE IS FUTILE-you will be assimilated....

[Operator]

I think there are 3 possibilities here:

1. There is no pattern, there are too many earthquakes to prove a pattern. It's just still a comet.
2. There is a pattern indeed, then it's probably NOT a comet
3. NASA is deliberately deceiving us with false data to initiate the false flag alien operation.

Ad 3. I used the word operation because it might not be an attack ! What if they try to scare the sh*t out of a lot of us
and prepare the masses to accept an alien rescue ... with whatever end result in mind.

[the_flyingboy]

as i said before i have a friend that works for nasa and he told me he would into it and tell me everything about it because it was not in his area and he said there ia another one to by the name of honda (found by japanese) but not sure, he will get back to me asap with all the explenations i will need to understand i will update here once i learn something new..

[SKIBADABOMSKI]

It's all clear as day. The alignments have occurred on those dates for a reason. What we need to do is figure out whats coming in 2 or 3 months time.

1)
The media release to the masses the alignment days and give us warnings. This could mean many things, False flag event with HAARP or UFO's or something even like Bruce Willis in Arm.. no thats just silly. But you see the potential.

2)
The media keep quiet which means just more earthquakes coming in the September, October and November alignment days. We blame it all on alignments and have no proof otherwise. Maybe other theories will surface but they have us cornered and with the comet being closer the earthquakes/weather changes can be bigger if they need be.

3)
They have already had enough fun and they'll just let this comet pass giving us all a wonderful spectacle show of it passing. *cough* i wish.

4)
This is going to be the one. You know what I mean. Checkmate. But I highly doubt it.

5)
They really have no control and no-one would be sick enough to try and benefit from a simple comet hype scenario and the alignments are just coincidental.

I don't know I'm just throwing stuff out there. But with NASA merely mentioning it. Looks like number 1 could happen and yes that could mean anything so I'm back to square one again. >_<

Ski-

[truthseekerdan]

So who do you think is piloting that ''comet'' that we are awaiting?

Here's what happens when nuggets are piloting... :p


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OgUWVy-vT-4

http://www.wpix.com/news/local/wpix-meteor-believed-to-have-made-hole-in-nj-mans-lawn-20110513,0,2460055.story

[Calz]

Anybody aware of data coming from "other" than nasa?

Astro software includes the major asteroids (caught in sun's orbit) but certainly not comets whizzin through the solar system.

To do a study that really stands up we would need to know the "orb" which is how many degrees of a "window" we are talking about when we say there is an "alignment". We would also need to measure against all known earthquakes above a certain threshhold.

If we were sure about the accuracy of the nasa data it would not be too hard to add the comet manually to an astro chart showing the other influences for each of the major earthquakes.

Some of what I was initially so excited about (for instance major hits on 11/11/11 and 12/21/12) really need independent confirmation. The PTB/W love their number play.


Having said all that ... some of the speculation, apparent visual support as well as LS's seeming endorsement of the possibility that this is either not a natural comet or else it is being "shadowed" by craft ... adds an unknown and as of *the moment* speculative variable that would make such a study nearly impossible to verify.

Bottom line is that *if* you believe this is a possibility and *if* you want to try to survive then *perhaps* time is running shorter than had been expected and plan accordingly.

[Operator]

Bottom line is that *if* you believe this is a possibility and *if* you want to try to survive then *perhaps* time is running shorter than had been expected and plan accordingly.

Thing is that this will not be a momentous event. It's not all of a sudden close to earth and then it's gone. IF something happens
I expect it to gradually build up ... even when the signs become more and more clear you will be ahead of the herd because if
you would tell someone straight in the face what's up most do not realize what it means. It takes a while to let it sink in.
That's what most of us have done already a long time ago ....

[JoeNashville]

I've read that blog post and it doesn't confirm anything. The guy is just repackaging the long list of info out on the web and not with any particularly new insight IMO.

The Planet X podcast is marginally reliable. There are a couple of good guests, but Marshal Masters is just another one of the sellers of 2012 BS and all his 'wares' for profit, including the Kolbrin 'Bible' which is a knock off of the original.

There is some interesting info with both the informed guests firm in their opinions that something will happen this year, while you can hear Masters trying to keep the focus on 2012 so as not to soften his sales. The whole thing could have been edited down to about 30 minutes. Could have been much better if Masters wasn't trying to conserve his agenda.

There is still not enough evidence to make a firm conclusion, though that will change over the next few months. The possibility does exist that it could be something significant and if that's true it firmly and neatly ties up a great deal of history, myths, prophecies and theories. Can't wait to find out!

Many people are keeping their heads in the sand, but for me it's a matter of understanding the possibilities and figuring the probabilities. I plan on having access to a cave, but not living in one! ;)

[TheSwede]

Earth will cross Elenins orbit 2011-11-04. We are far from colliding.

If you guys wanna get a sneak-peak into what will happen when this event occurs you can check out how NASA's STEREO-B satellite reacts and take pictures of. It might go down totally due to the force. Elenin will be so close to STEREO-B satellite there must be some effect if its a large body. This happens 2011-07-31.

So around 2011-07-31 I expect STEREO-B satellite going down or loosing communication when passing orbits if Elenin is a large body. A full 3 months before its Earth's turn to cross paths.

You find images taken nonstop by STEREO-A and B here(STEREO-A is named Ahead and STEREO-B is Behind): http://stereo.nascom.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/images

A site like JPL but showing the STEREO-A+B satellites in orbit: http://secchi.nrl.navy.mil/STEREOorbit/C2010_X1.html


ENJOY the show guys! I know I will =)

---
EDIT: Sorry got the satellites wrong, its STEREO-B thats close to Elenin!

[Wings]

For those interested, Elenin's ephemeris: http://darkstarastrology.com/comet-elenin-astrological-ephemeris-2011-2012/

[nearing]

Earth will cross Elenins orbit 2011-11-04. We are far from colliding.

If you guys wanna get a sneak-peak into what will happen when this event occurs you can check out how NASA's STEREO-A satellite reacts and take pictures of. It might go down totally due to the force. Elenin will be so close to STEREO-A satellite there must be some effect if its a large body. This happens 2011-07-31.

So 2011-07-31 I expect STEREO-A satellite going down or loosing communication when passing orbits if Elenin is a large body. A full 3 months before its Earth's turn to cross paths.

You find images taken nonstop by STEREO-A and B here(STEREO-A is named Ahead): http://stereo.nascom.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/images

A site like JPL but showing the STEREO-A+B sattelites in orbit: http://secchi.nrl.navy.mil/STEREOorbit/C2010_X1.html


ENJOY the show guys! I know I will =)

Do we know that the satellites are in or very close to the 'comet's' path?

[TheSwede]

Earth will cross Elenins orbit 2011-11-04. We are far from colliding.

If you guys wanna get a sneak-peak into what will happen when this event occurs you can check out how NASA's STEREO-A satellite reacts and take pictures of. It might go down totally due to the force. Elenin will be so close to STEREO-A satellite there must be some effect if its a large body. This happens 2011-07-31.

So 2011-07-31 I expect STEREO-A satellite going down or loosing communication when passing orbits if Elenin is a large body. A full 3 months before its Earth's turn to cross paths.

You find images taken nonstop by STEREO-A and B here(STEREO-A is named Ahead): http://stereo.nascom.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/images

A site like JPL but showing the STEREO-A+B sattelites in orbit: http://secchi.nrl.navy.mil/STEREOorbit/C2010_X1.html


ENJOY the show guys! I know I will =)

Do we know that the satellites are in or very close to the 'comet's' path?

I would estimate Elenin and STEREO-B be as close as 0,074 AU and one AU is 149,597,870.691 kilometers so thats about 11million kilometers.

When Earth will be as closest to Elenin as it gets its 35million kilometers away.

AND to give you a feel for the distance its exactly ONE AU to earth from the sun( 149,6million kilometers).

HOWEVER, I see that Elenin will be crossing the path of STEREO-B and in our case Earth will be crossing the path of Elenin. Elenin will also scoot by a bit above our orbit.

I also edited my initial post. Its STEREO-B and not STEREO-A that Elenin will cross first =)

[TheSwede]

A little quick toolbox post! Heres all the links people need to check satellite images and also check orbits of objects around the sun. You need JAVA to run the Orbit viewer.

Just experiment and see the orbits/dates/distances and so on using the tools =)

Orbitviewer with STEREO A+B:
http://secchi.nrl.navy.mil/STEREOorbit/C2010_X1.html

Orbitviewer JPL(With Elenin):
http://ssd.jpl.nasa.gov/sbdb.cgi?sstr=elenin;orb=1;cov=0;log=0;cad=0#orb

STEREO Image tool:
http://stereo.nascom.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/images

SOHO Data:
http://sohodata.nascom.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/soho_movie_theater

[Sophocles]

Dr Mensur Omerbashich site: http://sites.google.com/site/omerbashich/

[Referee]

I am wondering where there is a good source that tells us during planetary alignments what the forces and their strengths at play are?

[ponda]

I am wondering where there is a good source that tells us during planetary alignments what the forces and their strengths at play are?


One thing that can be an indicator of any potential quake activity, is what is going on with the sun as the lead up to these alignment dates takes place.You can keep a watch on the solar activity at this site:

http://www.solarham.com/


You can get a 3 day solar and geophysical activity report and prediction here:

http://www.solarham.com/swpc.htm


Also some astronomers postulate that there could be an electrical connection between comets,planets etc within the solar system and the sun.This could mean that whenever this comet/sun electrical connection is interfered with by say a direct planetary alignment then this disturbance could effect the planet involved in the alignment.

So if/when Earth gets directly in between a comet or another planet etc and the sun, then some effects might be felt on Earth because of interference to the electrical connection.These effects might not be as severe when the comet is in alignment between the planet and the sun.

The lead up to an alignment might be when the effects can be felt.This might be when the connection begins to be interfered with.So say up to one week before an alignment is due might be a good time to start watching for any solar disturbances etc.

You might be able to find out more by googling 'electric universe' or 'comet sun electrical connection'.

cheers

[enfoldedblue]

Not sure if this has been mentioned before but I find it interesting that Elenin's orbital period has been estimated to be 11700 years. When I read this I was struck by the fact that this means the last time Elenin passed by Earth was around 9689 BC. Plato claimed that Atlantis sunk around 9600 BC and around that time agriculture sprung up all over the world. If there was some major Earth catastrophe this would explain why this occurred. Before that humans had lived for hundreds of thousands of years as hunters and gatherers. If a major catastrophe occurred the survivors would have undoubtedly experienced very difficult circumstances immediately after, which would explain why all around the world, people suddenly decided that it would be a good idea to collect and plant seeds in order to ensure their survival.

Also want to add that by saying that I am not writing in order to stir up fear. Quite the contrary. I believe that we are in the process of moving from a duality fear-based paradigm into a multi-dimensional love-based one. I was told this would happen by my guides in the 90’s.

LOVE ALLways, c

[truthseekerdan]

Found this interesting one. Much love to one another. :luv:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0MESVroDJGs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0MESVroDJGs

These twenty-five dwarf star symptoms are presented allowing the viewer to recognize a disruptive pattern that is taking place all across the solar system and on our planet Earth. Migrating animals have magnetite in their tissues and use the Earth magnetic field to migrate between food sources, but the magnetosphere is fluctuating due to the approach of the dwarf star that is in direct competition with our Sun for Earth polarity control that has been going on since 2004, which marks the time that the magnetic poles began migrating at increased rates. The linked thesis paper by Dr. Mensur Omerbashich shows that the ELEnin dwarf star has been causing magnitude 6+ earthquakes for a long time during crucial ELE/Earth alignments with the Sun and other planets in our solar system, which says exactly what our Planet X Brown Dwarf Research group has been saying for some time. The Earth aquifers shifted and Earth axis shifted 3 and 4 inches with the 2/27/2010 Chile Quake and the 3/11/2011 Japan Quake and both took place on Sun/Earth/ELEnin alignments.

The ELE Dwarf Star Event Timeline was drafted using the NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory orbit diagram data for the ELEnin Comet, which is a cover for the approaching dwarf star that is due to cross Mars orbit on June 25, 2011; before crossing between the Sun and Saturn on July 7, 2011 where we expect to see a sign from the ringed planet that ELE is attempting to wrestle Saturn polarity control from the Sun.

Dr. Mensur Omerbashich Paper: http://lanl.arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/1104/1104.2036.pdf

[nearing]

This guy was Green Beret. He says the government has known about 'Planet X' coming now for a long time.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q96t90n4TeQ&feature=player_embedded#at=1227

[Eikoor21]

No matter what happens
I love you all :)
Spread the love my friends
Our conscious being is eternal

Great love:o

[truthseekerdan]

This guy was Green Beret. He says the government has known about 'Planet X' coming now for a long time.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q96t90n4TeQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q96t90n4TeQ

Embedded it for ya... :)

[Calz]

Found this interesting one. Much love to one another. :luv:

These twenty-five dwarf star symptoms are presented allowing the viewer to recognize a disruptive pattern that is taking place all across the solar system and on our planet Earth. Migrating animals have magnetite in their tissues and use the Earth magnetic field to migrate between food sources, but the magnetosphere is fluctuating due to the approach of the dwarf star that is in direct competition with our Sun for Earth polarity control that has been going on since 2004, which marks the time that the magnetic poles began migrating at increased rates. The linked thesis paper by Dr. Mensur Omerbashich shows that the ELEnin dwarf star has been causing magnitude 6+ earthquakes for a long time during crucial ELE/Earth alignments with the Sun and other planets in our solar system, which says exactly what our Planet X Brown Dwarf Research group has been saying for some time. The Earth aquifers shifted and Earth axis shifted 3 and 4 inches with the 2/27/2010 Chile Quake and the 3/11/2011 Japan Quake and both took place on Sun/Earth/ELEnin alignments.

The ELE Dwarf Star Event Timeline was drafted using the NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory orbit diagram data for the ELEnin Comet, which is a cover for the approaching dwarf star that is due to cross Mars orbit on June 25, 2011; before crossing between the Sun and Saturn on July 7, 2011 where we expect to see a sign from the ringed planet that ELE is attempting to wrestle Saturn polarity control from the Sun.

Dr. Mensur Omerbashich Paper: http://lanl.arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/1104/1104.2036.pdf

Excellent catch. PDF is just "what the doctor ordered".

truthseekerdan is all over this :) :thumb:

[truthseekerdan]

If an asteroid/comet were on a collision course with Earth, would we be ready to defend against its destructive impact or would we be helpless and defenseless?

NASA, America's space agency, is being charged with leading the way to protect not only the U.S. but the entire world in the event of such a horrifying scenario. And a top White House science adviser says we have to be prepared.

In separate 10-page letters to the House Committee on Science and Technology and the Senate Committee on Commerce, Science and Transportation, John Holdren, director of the White House Office of Science and Technology Policy, or OSTP, outlines plans for "(A) protecting the United States from a near-Earth object that is expected to collide with Earth; and (B) implementing a deflection campaign, in consultation with international bodies, should one be necessary."

The White House Letter is below:

http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/microsites/ostp/ostp-letter-neo-senate.pdf

http://www.scribd.com/doc/40067765/Ostp-Letter-Neos-House-1

[JoshERTW]

The terrorist threat has outlived its usefulness, so now we are onto the next big thing - natural / environmental Disasters - then Comets/Asteroid threats, then the ET threat. Seems they are speeding up the process a bit with all these disasters happening, and jumping right to the Comet thing. Hitting us with both at once - Then we will be "overwhelmed" when the ET threat hits. That's what I imagine the plan is anyways from what I'm seeing today.

[truthseekerdan]

TPTB are trying very hard to distract people (not in the know) from the real issue(s) -- so they can stay in control 'till the end...

I highly recommend you guys (skeptics alike) to listen to this interview which was made before Japan's earthquake, and pay attention (no joke).

If it's too long to listen at one time, I recommend you download it first. Prepare yourselves spiritually at least, if otherwise not possible...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crU9sM5QTUk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crU9sM5QTUk


Much Love to All

[ThePythonicCow]

I highly recommend you guys (skeptics alike) to listen to this interview which was made before Japan's earthquake, and pay attention (no joke).One thing does not make sense to me -- if the world's sea level is going to rise 400 to 600 feet world wide, then that is a Humongous amount of water, additional water above and beyond what is on this planet now.

There simply is not enough water on the planet to do that; not even close.

[truthseekerdan]

I highly recommend you guys (skeptics alike) to listen to this interview which was made before Japan's earthquake, and pay attention (no joke).One thing does not make sense to me -- if the world's sea level is going to rise 400 to 600 feet world wide, then that is a Humongous amount of water, additional water above and beyond what is on this planet now.

There simply is not enough water on the planet to do that; not even close.

Simple answer; if the earth-crust changes then the water redistributes accordingly. Also if Elenin is actually a comet, it may bring additional water in the form of ice...

Hope this helps. Mooo ;)

[ThePythonicCow]

Simple answer; if the earth-crust changes then the water redistributes accordingly. Also if Elenin is actually a comet, it may bring additional water in the form of ice...If the water redistributes, then some places now under water become dry land and some other places above water sink.

What I heard so far listening is that it is water rising everywhere 400 to 600 feet, world wide.

I also doubt that a comet would (1) be big enough to cause much earth change, unless it ran smack into us, and (2) would bring enough water to add another 500 feet of water to the earth's surface, world wide.

No way - this is looney toons.

Something really bad may be going down - but not this.

My current best guess is that Elenin is a big planet or brown dwarf coming close enough (say ..25 au) to earth to cause serious earthquakes, volcanoes and tsunami's. Take a look at Japan and ChristChurch - change in land elevation might have been (I don't know - guessing) a couple meters at most, but the tsunami's and earthquakes caused massive damage to low lying areas.

[Calz]

I am with Cow on this one.

That said ... a several hundred foot *tsunami* is quite another story.

[greybeard]

Its not that the water will remain 300 ft higher it is more that there will be a rush of water to some hight then it will recede but some land will sink and "new" land will surface. I believe what the man said in the video/audio Dan posted.
It is potential rather than actuality as far as damage goes.

I believe that there is a planet x and it is rather large and the World leaders know about it.

I also believe that this has happened before as part of the cycle and that our Ancestors have done their best to warn, prepare us for this.
They went through it to a greater or lesser degree.
Its a question of logically joining the dots--- past--- present extreme weather--- alignments etc

As Paul and quite a few others said something is happening.

Part of the challenge is that we have become immune to warnings--- so many false flags in the past.

Chris

[greybeard]

http://www.matrixinstitute.com/

We will just have to wait and see.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5m65EPHLg0&feature=player_embedded

[truthseekerdan]

I am with Cow on this one.

I'm in agreement with John Moore on this one, Calz. :yo:

"Retired 'Green Beret' John R Moore explains what is really behind the effects of climate change and why the elite is covertly preparing for violently rising ocean levels. He exposes the cover-up of an extinction level threat due to the approaching star (The Destroyer) and its planets. This is vital information for you and your family."

vpbiuKTtMZo

For playlist click here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpbiuKTtMZo&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL)

[Calz]

I am with Cow on this one.

I'm in agreement with John Moore on this one, Calz. :yo:

"Retired 'Green Beret' John R Moore explains what is really behind the effects of climate change and why the elite is covertly preparing for violently rising ocean levels. He exposes the cover-up of an extinction level threat due to the approaching star (The Destroyer) and its planets. This is vital information for you and your family."



I will admit that moving the government from DC to Denver would not be done without a damn good reason :scared:

Always enjoy your outlook :thumb:

[Operator]

Now consider this .... all continents seem to fit together smoothly ... but on ALL SIDES !

So imagine Pangaea and then let the continents float ... it will only work on all sides if the sphere grows like blowing up a balloon.
It is theorized that incoming energy materializes and water is easily formed out of simple elements (e equals mc squared).
We have heard before that there is an high energy coming in right ? We are also awakened by an increasing number of sinkholes, landslides
and cracks (and don't forget strange roaring sounds that can't be explained). If you ask me these are the signs that the earth is growing !

How's that for being open minded and accept such crazy ideas ?

[Calz]

I am aware and in no position to dispute the "expanding earth" theory(s). :ear:

[Arrowwind]

There are so many stories right now predicting doom of one sort or another.
There is really little you can do.
Store food in case the event is not catastrophic for you.

None of us are prepared to live underground for 3 to 6 months.

Recognize you are a humanoid with an interfaced soul which is your true identity and acknowledge that you are an eternal being.
Be ready to leave the planet without fear and enter into your next journey of experience.

[nearing]

I highly recommend you guys (skeptics alike) to listen to this interview which was made before Japan's earthquake, and pay attention (no joke).One thing does not make sense to me -- if the world's sea level is going to rise 400 to 600 feet world wide, then that is a Humongous amount of water, additional water above and beyond what is on this planet now.

There simply is not enough water on the planet to do that; not even close.

He explains in the video that I placed above somewhere that it's not worldwide. What happens as the earth spins is that there is 500 feet more water at the equator than the rest of the globe. When the earth slows or stops spinning (which he is predicting from the gravitational pull of this huge body coming near us) the water that WAS at the equator will spread out to the rest of the planet and flood it. I imagine the lands at the equator will actually see a huge DROP in sea level then.

And it's most certainly NOT a comet that will do this. This is Planet X or the Brown Dwarf, our Sun's sister star. It's massive and certainly can do this.

[nearing]

Now consider this .... all continents seem to fit together smoothly ... but on ALL SIDES !

So imagine Pangaea and then let the continents float ... it will only work on all sides if the sphere grows like blowing up a balloon.
It is theorized that incoming energy materializes and water is easily formed out of simple elements (e equals mc squared).
We have heard before that there is an high energy coming in right ? We are also awakened by an increasing number of sinkholes, landslides
and cracks (and don't forget strange roaring sounds that can't be explained). If you ask me these are the signs that the earth is growing !

How's that for being open minded and accept such crazy ideas ?

Sounds logical. Not crazy in the least!



There are so many stories right now predicting doom of one sort or another.
There is really little you can do.
Store food in case the event is not catastrophic for you.

None of us are prepared to live underground for 3 to 6 months.

Recognize you are a humanoid with an interfaced soul which is your true identity and acknowledge that you are an eternal being.
Be ready to leave the planet without fear and enter into your next journey of experience.

I am soooo ready to go! And happily, I might add!

[ThePythonicCow]

When the earth slows or stops spinning (which he is predicting from the gravitational pull of this huge body coming near us)
Thanks for the clarification - I had not listened closely enough.

I thought I heard him recommending that one just look up one's elevation above sea level, without regard to one's latitude, to determine if one was probably safe from the rising waters.

Unfortunately, the idea that a nearby passing mass - even that big and close, would cause the earth to stop spinning on its axis makes no sense to me either.

[Calz]

I am soooo ready to go! And happily, I might add!

Were it not for my loving family ... which gives me every reason for living ... I would be right there with you brother :thumb:

[nearing]

When the earth slows or stops spinning (which he is predicting from the gravitational pull of this huge body coming near us)
Thanks for the clarification - I had not listened closely enough.

I thought I heard him recommending that one just look up one's elevation above sea level, without regard to one's latitude, to determine if one was probably safe from the rising waters.

Unfortunately, the idea that a nearby passing mass - even that big and close, would cause the earth to stop spinning on its axis makes no sense to me either.

Yes, I think one would certainly have to consider their latitude. He may not have thought that through sufficiently, of course, he isn't a scientist either so we need to give him a little slack.

I think if a massive object came close enough and from a direction the opposite of our rotation, it would have the power to slow us down or even stop us for a while.

[Calz]

Unfortunately, the idea that a nearby passing mass - even that big and close, would cause the earth to stop spinning on its axis makes no sense to me either.

Welp ... if I was there I sure don't remember it ... but legends have it that there are 3 days of darkness (native american) or the sun reverses direction for about 3 days (ancient china).

No doubt there are differences and similarities for each "cycle" ... but regardless ... unless you are *really* prepared not likely to be a "good hair day" :)

PS - almost forgot ... you *did* see my message about my lawyer communicating with you regarding the copyrights on that smiley???

:cow:

[Operator]

Unfortunately, the idea that a nearby passing mass - even that big and close, would cause the earth to stop spinning on its axis makes no sense to me either.

I remember doing a physics experiment on secondary school. Spin a bicycle wheel en keep your hands at both sides at the end of the axis.
Try to change the angle of the spinning wheel ... it's very hard or not possible at all. Bikes are able to drive on 2 wheels by this principle.
Boomerangs are stable in flight for the same reason.

So in order to change the axis of the planet you have probably to stop it spinning (or slow down). That would require a lot of energy.

Maybe it's not impossible but at least it's more difficult than most people think ... ;)

[ThePythonicCow]

PS - almost forgot ... you *did* see my message about my lawyer communicating with you regarding the copyrights on that smiley???
I'm ruminating on it :cow:.

[nearing]

Unfortunately, the idea that a nearby passing mass - even that big and close, would cause the earth to stop spinning on its axis makes no sense to me either.

I remember doing a physics experiment on secondary school. Spin a bicycle wheel en keep your hands at both sides at the end of the axis.
Try to change the angle of the spinning wheel ... it's very hard or not possible at all. Bikes are able to drive on 2 wheels by this principle.
Boomerangs are stable in flight for the same reason.

So in order to change the axis of the planet you have probably to stop it spinning (or slow down). That would require a lot of energy.

Maybe it's not impossible but at least it's more difficult than most people think ... ;)

But your hands are not a massive globe. (at least I hope not)

If Jupiter was flying between us and our moon, do you think it would have an effect on our spin? Before you answer that, think about how small the moon is and how it affects our tides.

I don't think it's impossible. I actually think it plausible. Especially given what was said about the Native Americans and their legends of the Sun rising in West for 3 days. Yikes!

We are in for a wild ride!

{and just an FYI: I am a sister, not a brother :girl_wacko:}

[truthseekerdan]

Rogue Planets Found Floating Around...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZeqK-SQXH8&
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZeqK-SQXH8&

ARTICLE: http://www.physorg.com/news/2011-05-class-planets.html

ARTICLE: http://www.space.com/11699-rogue-alien-planets-milky-common.html

STRANGE ALIEN PLANETS: http://www.space.com/159-strangest-alien-planets.html

[Calz]

Unfortunately, the idea that a nearby passing mass - even that big and close, would cause the earth to stop spinning on its axis makes no sense to me either.

I remember doing a physics experiment on secondary school. Spin a bicycle wheel en keep your hands at both sides at the end of the axis.
Try to change the angle of the spinning wheel ... it's very hard or not possible at all. Bikes are able to drive on 2 wheels by this principle.
Boomerangs are stable in flight for the same reason.

So in order to change the axis of the planet you have probably to stop it spinning (or slow down). That would require a lot of energy.

Maybe it's not impossible but at least it's more difficult than most people think ... ;)

What about after a *physical* pole flip???

Not suggesting it is going to happen ... but it certainly has in the past not only on this planet but others in the solar system as well.

[truthseekerdan]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uyIWGS2ZF74
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uyIWGS2ZF74

http://www.google.com/logos/2011/d4g11-matteolopez-HP.png

[Bollinger]

What people tend to forget is that for the last goodness knows how long (probably since the beginning of beliefs in superstition and myths) there have always been people who for whatever reason, feel compelled to predict the end of the world. Many predictions and date-setters have come and gone and nothing has happened. You can find the whole of history littered with so-called predictors, seers and prophets who have managed to convince others and probably themselves too, that they know or feel something that is somehow inaccessible to the rest.

This is yet another example of a prediction which will undoubtedly go the same way. What is more interesting is the motivation behind such unfounded predictions. However, you do not need to major in psychology to understand the motivation behind this particular prediction. How amusing it becomes when the narrator tries to sell us silver from his website in the same breath as saying you will all die in the next 4 months. You would have to be so utterly credulous to even entertain the possibility that such an announcement could be true.

Do you remember how it was predicted that Japan would fall off its shelf and into the ocean on 28th April? Do you remember how aliens were going to land in October 2009 or was it 2008? Do you listen to the channelling that goes on between the aliens and certain people who own websites with adverts on them? We accuse people of not waking up but we ourselves are no more awake than the next person if we allow ourselves to fall for these poor sales tricks.

Please ignore it and get on with the serious business of living your life and seeing out your purpose; whatever you deem it to be.

[HURRITT ENYETO]

I think Mankind has always looked over the horizon for the end as it is probably either in our genetic memory or the consciousness field, of all the extinctions and planet wide catastrophes that have happened on a cyclical basis for aeon's.
Of course that doesn't excuse people profiting from it.

Cheers
Hurritt

[truthseekerdan]

What people tend to forget is that for the last goodness knows how long (probably since the beginning of beliefs in superstition and myths) there have always been people who for whatever reason, feel compelled to predict the end of the world. Many predictions and date-setters have come and gone and nothing has happened. You can find the whole of history littered with so-called predictors, seers and prophets who have managed to convince others and probably themselves too, that they know or feel something that is somehow inaccessible to the rest.

This is yet another example of a prediction which will undoubtedly go the same way. What is more interesting is the motivation behind such unfounded predictions. However, you do not need to major in psychology to understand the motivation behind this particular prediction. How amusing it becomes when the narrator tries to sell us silver from his website in the same breath as saying you will all die in the next 4 months. You would have to be so utterly credulous to even entertain the possibility that such an announcement could be true.

Do you remember how it was predicted that Japan would fall off its shelf and into the ocean on 28th April? Do you remember how aliens were going to land in October 2009 or was it 2008? Do you listen to the channelling that goes on between the aliens and certain people who own websites with adverts on them? We accuse people of not waking up but we ourselves are no more awake than the next person if we allow ourselves to fall for these poor sales tricks.


This thread is not about predictions, but to provide info and expand our awareness to understand and possibly avoid future probable events that may have "dire consequences" for the humanity. Our expanding awareness is showing us that we are beginning to transcend fear, uncertainty, doubt and mental waste. It also allows us to become more open, allowing us to see the best in other people rather than just trying to manipulate or control other people. When we let go of control, only the truth remains.


Please ignore it and get on with the serious business of living your life and seeing out your purpose; whatever you deem it to be.

We are not able to explore something fully if we ignore any part of its existence. Whatever experience we may be having in the present, we need to accept it as is but also be aware of it without dwelling on it. This type of approach allows us to be impartial, without judging or criticizing our experiences or feelings.

Much love to one another :love:

[truthseekerdan]

Hi folks, for those interested about this subject, found more data to support that this is not just a mere comet. :nono:
The data says we are looking at an inbound dwarf star that has been causing earthquakes on our planet since 1965 and causing magnetic pole migration since about 2004. The evidence indicates that Earth will experience a pole shift event around 9/26 to 9/27, when the Sun, Earth and this ELE object are on the ecliptic/celestial planes that intersect at the autumn equinox. Everyone is warned to prepare for what is coming later this summer that will make Japan 3/11 look like a walk in the park.

MqV0StQbJQs

Links:

http://planetxtownhall.com/index.php?topic=2210.msg29033#msg29033
Wiki: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C/2010_X1
Seismicity Paper: http://lanl.arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/1104/1104.2036.pdf

[Carmen]

If Elenin was too small to worry about why is it that when its been in alignment (go to Nasa site to check) the major earthquake this year, and from September last year, have occurred!

This is no small body to have had such a pull on earth. And if you follow the upcoming alighnment it gets real spooky. Its tragetory indicates that it will coming between earth and sun and will be very close to us in cosmic terms. The dates of future alighnments are ones to definitely be aware of!!!

¤=[Post Update]=¤

Maybe its name should be Nibiru, not Elenin. Its orbit is just what Sitchen described in his books.

[nearing]

Maybe its name should be Nibiru, not Elenin. Its orbit is just what Sitchen described in his books.

That would be my take as well.

[truthseekerdan]

A letter from a Norwegian politician

Planet X is coming, and Norway has begun with storage of food and seeds in the Svalbard area and in the arctic north with the help of the US and EU and all around in Norway. They will only save those that are in the elite of power and those that can build up again: doctors, scientists, and so on.

Read more: http://www.projectcamelot.org/norway.html

[truthseekerdan]

Here is what's coming our way as seen by remote viewers (RV) -- be it Elenin/Nibiru/Brown Dwarf, you name it. It's just going to be a very large object...

ZR1ypwOHLG0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZR1ypwOHLG0


Much Love

[truthseekerdan]

"According to two documentaries, "In Search of" and "In Search of Ancient Astronauts," filmed in the 70's, one hosted by Lenard Nimoy and the other hosted by Rod Sterling, they both say the Mayan calendar ends on December 24, 2011 and not December 21, 2012. We do know that Planet X was discovered in 1984 and then covered up after NASA realized what they found and what it meant. Was December 21, 2012 a ploy of disinformation to throw the public off or just an honest mistake? Very suspicious and unusual."

As for me, I believe that Dr. Calleman's (http://www.calleman.com/) October 28, 2011 Mayan calendar end date is even more accurate. :nod:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOClpkKtZk8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOClpkKtZk8

[nearing]

Great find, dan!

[Carmody]

I am with Cow on this one.

I'm in agreement with John Moore on this one, Calz. :yo:

"Retired 'Green Beret' John R Moore explains what is really behind the effects of climate change and why the elite is covertly preparing for violently rising ocean levels. He exposes the cover-up of an extinction level threat due to the approaching star (The Destroyer) and its planets. This is vital information for you and your family."

vpbiuKTtMZo

For playlist click here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpbiuKTtMZo&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL)

Just to add to the confusion, his suit colors appear to be black, red, and white. AKA Illuminati colors.

[Lord Sidious]

Just to add to the confusion, his suit colors appear to black, red, and white. AKA Illuminati colors.

Or, ancient Egypt and Atlantis too.

[Carmody]

Just to add to the confusion, his suit colors appear to black, red, and white. AKA Illuminati colors.

Or, ancient Egypt and Atlantis too.

Yeppers....

[Calz]

giovonni has graciously given the green light to post this here. :thank_you2:

Check out the pdf for *very* interesting reading regarding the topic(s) here:



Greetings,

This next item comes free via Michael Knight - Editor of the Earth Change Report and who also produced James "Contact Has Begun"

Is it "Comet Elenin" - or is it....."Planet X"?

That is the question - or a hundred of them.

And that's what this special free edition of a newsletter I researched and wrote this week is all about...

It's free because it is reprinted with permission from The Survival Center

whereas usually their newsletter only goes to a paid subscriber list (they pay $49.95 a year to get these weekly reports).

But we're making it available free today because it is such an important subject - including information that could prepare you for some VERY serious earth changes in the months remaining in this year.

Please consider subscribing to "Family Survival News" once you've read it...or subscribe to my free "Preparedness News" as well.

I write both, but the "Family Survival News" is what gets the most in-depth research and provides the most you can get in the way of preparedness information.


http://www.buycontacthasbegun.com/mailout/logos/384639670824579.jpg

Here's the link to download this .pdf newsletter. :thumb:
http://www.buycontacthasbegun.com/support-files/comet-elenin-planet-x-here-now.pdf

[The Truth Is In There]

Simple answer; if the earth-crust changes then the water redistributes accordingly. Also if Elenin is actually a comet, it may bring additional water in the form of ice...If the water redistributes, then some places now under water become dry land and some other places above water sink.

What I heard so far listening is that it is water rising everywhere 400 to 600 feet, world wide.

I also doubt that a comet would (1) be big enough to cause much earth change, unless it ran smack into us, and (2) would bring enough water to add another 500 feet of water to the earth's surface, world wide.

No way - this is looney toons.

Something really bad may be going down - but not this.

My current best guess is that Elenin is a big planet or brown dwarf coming close enough (say ..25 au) to earth to cause serious earthquakes, volcanoes and tsunami's. Take a look at Japan and ChristChurch - change in land elevation might have been (I don't know - guessing) a couple meters at most, but the tsunami's and earthquakes caused massive damage to low lying areas.

the water level will rise 600 feet because the poles melt after the shift. obviously that doesn't happen immediately but takes about two years during which time the water level rises slowly. however, there will still be the immediate problem of tsunamis so all coastal areas will be affected at the time planet x passes. all this is perfectly explained on the zetatalk website. there's also images available of how the world will look after the pole shift, where the new poles will be, which regions will become submerged etc.

www.zetatalk.com
http://poleshift.ning.com

http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/inter2011/dutch/Oudenbosch2011.html

[Calz]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SfOfBrNUOGA&feature=related

Yo folks :yo: pictures speak louder than words ... here is a great illustration of the alignments that Ski first posted.

Not much time ... (for those of you who were not raptured already) :sorry:

[truthseekerdan]

An older video well worth seeing...

ESt9YkaFe2w


Cheers everybody

[truthseekerdan]

We should all heed the warnings handed down to us by our elders. The Hopi have seen the coming of the Red Kachina, our binary star that is on its way back towards us. Events as we have been witnessing are only the beginning of the changes our planet, and all upon it are about to experience. When the Red Kachina paints our skies with red the color of blood we will know that the purifying will begin.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Y1GdKdNhY4

[ponda]

There's some significant Comet(?) Elenin and planetary alignments coming up over the next week or so May 31 - June 7, that might be worth keeping an eye on.The Sun has started to get very active now.Elenin aligns with the Sun,Mercury,Venus and Mars over this period.But not Earth

You can check the alignments here:

http://ssd.jpl.nasa.gov/sbdb.cgi?sstr=C%2F2010%20X1;orb=1;cov=0;log=0;cad=0


Check the solar activity here: http://www.solarham.com/

[JoeNashville]

There's some significant Comet(?) Elenin and planetary alignments coming up over the next week or so May 31 - June 7, that might be worth keeping an eye on.The Sun has started to get very active now.Elenin aligns with the Sun,Mercury,Venus and Mars over this period.But not Earth

You can check the alignments here: http://ssd.jpl.nasa.gov/sbdb.cgi?sstr=C%2F2010%20X1;orb=1;cov=0;log=0;cad=0

Check the solar activity here: http://www.solarham.com/

No offense to ponda, but any alignments that involve bodies other than the Earth, the Sun and ELEnin are irrelevant to discussing Earth events related to ELEnin. ALL of the major Earth events involved a direct alignment of the Earth, ELEnin and the Sun(the last 3 largest quakes) or when the ELEnin was equal distance from the Sun and Earth, which were happening twice a year in November and May. But that has changed now that ELEnin is close and making a beline for us and there are no more orbits of Earth for the twice yearly midpoints. This is absolutely true for all events involving ELEnin going back to at least 1999. I've done all the related research personally.

You can find some sort of alignment with any combination of bodies for any event in recorded history, which a lot of people are doing. There are dozens of earthquakes on Earth every day, yet to find an 'alignment' tied to specific events you have to come up with crazy theories that are inconsistent or nonrepeatable, which is true of all those alignments you mentioned.

The next alignment with Earth is after ELEnin has passed by us, so we are in uncharted territory. Plus the next alignments will be when ELEnin is moving away or pulling on Earth as opposed to approaching which is has been doing for years. These 'pulling' alignments could be far more problematic, if you believe in the expanding earth model(which I do) because the pulling could seriously increase the Earth's natural inclination to expand We won't know until it happens.

In the meantime we have one more equal distant point coming up on June 14. If there is any merit to this theory we will see something big happen on that day.

[ponda]

Yes Joe i mentioned that the alignments didn't directly involve Earth.The main element here is the Sun.The Sun has become very active just recently and THIS might have an effect on Earth.I never mentioned any crazy theories.I'm just pointing out some of what's going on in the solar system at the moment.I don't think it's completely off topic.

cheers:)

[Floor]

When those planets align with the sun, this raises the chance on solar flares en when these flares are reaching Earth, you can expect more earthquakes. It has to do with the magnetic field.
So for me, alignments that involve bodies other than the Earth and do Involve Elenin and the Sun, are relevant to discuss Earth events related to Elenin.

[JoeNashville]

Yes I didn't mean you in particular about the theories. It's just that sooo many people are coming with all sorts of crazy alignment theories that don't make sense.

I look at solarham's site regularly and it's full of good info. Another great site for solar/earth data is: http://solarimg.org/artis/

My hope is that on this board at least we can have a dialog that continues to follow a rational line with quantifiable information.

Personally I'm fascinated by the sun/electromagnetic/earthquake connection. I know there's a connection but haven't come up with a hypothesis that works yet, other than my gut telling me so! lol

Thanks and no worries. I hope nothing much happens in June, though I've noticed that the strange things happening all over the Earth continue to increase exponentially and the only thing we 'can see' changing that isn't sort of normal is ELEnin.

Cheers!

[nearing]

Plus, we can keep an eye on those planets and see how THEY are affected too. Can be interesting because it could put to rest the theory that JPL is making the alignments look like the reason for EQs here when it's manmade stuff.

We can't see Quakes on those planets but we can see storms and such.

[Rocky_Shorz]

Some more for you Calz... :)

Is Elenin a Spaceship?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m43Axb5M18c

http://thetruthbehindthescenes.wordpress.com/2011/05/05/scientists-says-comet-elenin-has-massive-ufo-fleet-following-in-formation-in-its-tail/

When I look at this video 3d Tetris come to mind :p

Edit: on a more serious note ...
It may not even be right to list all the alignments ... I can argue that each day there was an alignment the sun came up and there is a pattern there.
There are lots of earthquakes each day ... so maybe it's not that hard to find one above 6+
The pattern can only be proven when there are no 6+ quakes on other days.

you'd think if you were going to travel light years you would design something a little more aerodynamic...


is there enough room for this to settle over the dome?

[JoeNashville]

Yes I find it curious that NASA got a probe up to look at Mercury, just in time for ELEnin to pass by! Very curious indeed. I wonder if they will 'share' the data? To my way of thinking that would be a good indication if ELEnin is not what they say. If they don't share the data we've got a serious problem! :eek:

BTW, along the Swiss franc note line, did you guys know there is also a asteroid named for that scientist on the 10 Franc note with the solar system orbits? It's called 2002 Euler and it will be passing through it's ecliptic in October when ELEnin is near. And Earth will be passing between it and the Sun AND the Honda, Levy bodies, as well as YU 55 all in the same short time span?

http://ssd.jpl.nasa.gov/sbdb.cgi?sstr=2002%20Euler;orb=1;cov=0;log=0;cad=0#orb

It's something I'm looking into and thought I'd mention. I find that VERY curious.

I think I'll dust off my hard hat!

[nearing]

It's called 2002 Euler and it will be passing through it's ecliptic in October when ELEnin is near. And Earth will be passing between it and the Sun AND the Honda, Levy bodies, as well as YU 55 all in the same short time span?


Holy cow! All that at once. Man, we have some fireworks to forward to.

[truthseekerdan]

Yeah, I've seen this "highway to hell" video a while back... ;)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9-nH-zmzzA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9-nH-zmzzA

Take care my friends

[nearing]

That wouldn't be so bad if ELENIN was an actual comet. But the mass of that thing makes this whole roller coaster ride a HOOT! I am excited!

[truthseekerdan]

That wouldn't be so bad if ELENIN was an actual comet. But the mass of that thing makes this whole roller coaster ride a HOOT! I am excited!

In fact ELEnin might not be a comet or a brown dwarf, IMHO could be an actual 'cloaked' spaceship the Blue Kachina that is returning... The asteroid 2005YU55 could be the actual Red Kachina the "Purifier" that might hit the planet Earth?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LcX-KDPVtrg

[blufire]

If this is some sort of spaceship then it doesn’t need to be aerodynamic in outer space. There is no atmosphere to create drag . . . . nor is there gravity. :p

I have no thoughts on possible interdimensional travel . . . I’m still trying to figure out how Inelia can bi-locate :o

I’m having a really hard time believing Elenin is manned or a ship of some sort. It’s hard enough to wrap your head around any of this is actually happening

But I do believe something is . . . . .and coming very quickly.





Some more for you Calz... :)

Is Elenin a Spaceship?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m43Axb5M18c

http://thetruthbehindthescenes.wordpress.com/2011/05/05/scientists-says-comet-elenin-has-massive-ufo-fleet-following-in-formation-in-its-tail/

When I look at this video 3d Tetris come to mind :p

Edit: on a more serious note ...
It may not even be right to list all the alignments ... I can argue that each day there was an alignment the sun came up and there is a pattern there.
There are lots of earthquakes each day ... so maybe it's not that hard to find one above 6+
The pattern can only be proven when there are no 6+ quakes on other days.

you'd think if you were going to travel light years you would design something a little more aerodynamic...


is there enough room for this to settle over the dome?

[nearing]

I believe the Blue Kachina was Comet Holmes in 2007.

Definitely blue!

http://www.google.com/search?q=Comet+Holmes&hl=en&client=safari&rls=en&prmd=ivns&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=VALkTc_OBISksQOs9ZAW&ved=0CD4QsAQ&biw=1772&bih=957

From a forum talking of this:
It is the amazing display in the heavens on Oct. 24, 2007. No one, including every astronomer and space scientist in the world, has even come up with a possible theory of exactly what happened that night. The prophecy did not state that the Blue Star would arrive and remain for seven years. It marked the beginning of the seven years.

Well, one thing Comet Holmes did was make a mark - a rather large spectacular mark. I am still astonished to have learned about the "explosion?" in the sky of the comet that night. This small, seemingly insignificant comet traveling innocuously through our solar system, suddenly, without warning, ballooned in size to a blue orb in the sky bigger than the sun. Doesn't that at least rate a story on page one of every newspaper in the world? NOT ONE mention of that comet appeared in any of the major media outlets in the world. It didn't even make the "top ten" astronomical events of the year.

Why? A small comet suddenly balloons without any possible explanation to a blue orb in the sky larger than our sun and it makes no impact on the people of the planet? My only explanation for that strangeness, which is almost more strange than the comet itself, is that the entire world is wrapped in slumber too deep to disturb.

And the Hopi say that within 7 years after the Blue shows, the Red comes, right?

The Red One will be The Dwarf Star. JMHO

[truthseekerdan]

And the Hopi say that within 7 years after the Blue shows, the Red comes, right?

The Red One will be The Dwarf Star. JMHO

Nearing, perhaps you're confusing it with the 7 years of great tribulations from the Bible...

Here is the Hopi prophecy:

http://www.crystalinks.com/hopi2.html

[nearing]

And the Hopi say that within 7 years after the Blue shows, the Red comes, right?

The Red One will be The Dwarf Star. JMHO

Nearing, perhaps you're confusing it with the 7 years of great tribulations from the Bible...

Here is the Hopi prophecy:

http://www.crystalinks.com/hopi2.html

Nah, I took it from the forum above. ;)

But the timing doesn't matter. It was a spectacular blue comet.

[truthseekerdan]

Imagine a space ship so massive that it could affect a planets gravitation fields to extreme degrees just by coming close to us.
Imagine just for a moment a ship so huge that if it came down into our atmosphere it would block the sun from one side of the earth to the other, effectively darkening the planet merely by it’s size.
Think of the technology that would account for a ship like that!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KO-l2JCPfy8

[nearing]

Imagine a space ship so massive that it could affect a planets gravitation fields to extreme degrees just by coming close to us.
Imagine just for a moment a ship so huge that if it came down into our atmosphere it would block the sun from one side of the earth to the other, effectively darkening the planet merely by it’s size.
Think of the technology that would account for a ship like that!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KO-l2JCPfy8

Whoa, my cat loved that video, Dan!

[truthseekerdan]

Whoa, my cat loved that video, Dan!

And you didn't?

;)

[nearing]

Whoa, my cat loved that video, Dan!

And you didn't?

;)

No, I thought it was great too. I do believe those are ships we are seeing by the sun and the shape look exactly like what the video displays. Not sure that they would have the mass to disturb us in any way unless they were very close to us (closer than moon). They look like they are light in weight, to me. Being ships, that would make sense.

Alive? Not sure of that either. They look manufactured. But certainly under intelligent control.

The cat sat right up close to the screen and batted it. Haha.

[truthseekerdan]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qL2TwGo7OA0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qL2TwGo7OA0

[jcocks]

It just occurred to me....

Many of the British Royals, and many world leaders, are going to be in my home town of Perth for the 2011 CHOGM conference in October...


interesting timing, huh? ;-)

Can anyone dig up any interesting facts about Perth. I know it's closest city to the 23rd parrallel...but what about energy grid lines etc?

[ponda]

It just occurred to me....

Many of the British Royals, and many world leaders, are going to be in my home town of Perth for the 2011 CHOGM conference in October...


interesting timing, huh? ;-)

Can anyone dig up any interesting facts about Perth. I know it's closest city to the 23rd parrallel...but what about energy grid lines etc?

I 'think' it's the most isolated city in the world

[jcocks]

It's the second most isolated, and only because the one city that is more isolated is snowed in most of the year

[Lord Sidious]

It just occurred to me....

Many of the British Royals, and many world leaders, are going to be in my home town of Perth for the 2011 CHOGM conference in October...


interesting timing, huh? ;-)

Can anyone dig up any interesting facts about Perth. I know it's closest city to the 23rd parrallel...but what about energy grid lines etc?

I 'think' it's the most isolated city in the world

Perth is the most remote capital city on earth and trust me, it feels like it too.
The nearest major city to us is...............................djakarta.

They will be here?
If I have not left already, I wonder if I will get a visit from the SSIG again?

[jcocks]

Hang on m'lord... Did you just say you lived in Perth?

Mind you, being so far away from everywhere else has its' advantages :)

[Lord Sidious]

Hang on m'lord... Did you just say you lived in Perth?

Mind you, being so far away from everywhere else has its' advantages :)

I am in this physical location right now, yes.

[jcocks]

BTW : Who are the SSIG?

If ever you find yourself going down south in the direction of Bunbury, throw me a PM and we'll meet up :)

[Lord Sidious]

BTW : Who are the SSIG?

If ever you find yourself going down south in the direction of Bunbury, throw me a PM and we'll meet up :)

State Security Investigations Group.
The are literally men in black.

[truthseekerdan]

:focus:
More pieces of the puzzle...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljo0gvLL1mA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljo0gvLL1mA

[nearing]

It just occurred to me....

Many of the British Royals, and many world leaders, are going to be in my home town of Perth for the 2011 CHOGM conference in October...


interesting timing, huh? ;-)

Can anyone dig up any interesting facts about Perth. I know it's closest city to the 23rd parrallel...but what about energy grid lines etc?

What does CHOGM stand for?

Very interesting, indeed. I wonder if there are any underground bunkers Perth. Lord?