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king anthony
12th February 2011, 00:09
UPDATE: the latest "enhanced" versions here at > Post 80 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?13972-What-Is-This-Audio-Recording&p=188102#post188102)< - others are available throughout the thread - thank you to all!!!

Some may be wondering what this post is about... I have decided to share the story of it. I didn't want to before because I didn't want to affect the results if someone were to enhance the recording. So now, if I may, I would like to post this topic. I have an audio recording:

2:02 mins long

Created - December 12 2010 5:39 pm

THE STORY (in brief)


I was staying at a friend's place.

Around 5:10 pm I had gone out, leaving behind a recorder.

Around 5:26 a friend was dropped off at a location.

Around 5:36 pm I was sitting in a parking lot and a text had come in at this time; I was at best 15 to 20 mins away from my friend's place.

Around 5:55 pm I arrived back at my friend's place.

Around 6:05 pm I went to the desk where the computer was - and my recorder.

I was listening to recordings from the night before when I discovered the above recording - recorded at 5:39 pm.

Some strange sound is at the beginning, faint sounds throughout, ending with a loud 'tune'.

I listened to the ending repeatedly as it sounded familiar; eventually I realized I had woken up to the 'tune' through my life and dismissed it as a dream.

No one was at my friend's house during the time I was gone - and I didn't record it.

One other person, who listened to the recording, had said the tune sounded familiar to them - they too claim of strange things.

What I don't understand is - how can a 'tune' from my dream be recorded - on its own. The answer may be in the recording itself.


I make oath and say, the above said is true.

Does anyone have the right equipment (software) to listen to, analyze and record the findings of this recording? Although there is sound, some sort of enhancement will be needed.

THE FILE IS POSTED HERE:

http://www.mediafire.com/?a97ug44fvymjsyp (http://www.mediafire.com/?a97ug44fvymjsyp)

OKAY, AN AVALON MEMBER HAS CONVERTED THE AUDIO FILE IN AN MP3 AND IMPROVED THE QUALITY. THANK YOU TO 'UPANATOM' FOR THE WORK.

HERE IS THE LINK:

http://www.mediafire.com/?vrf1pyfyvoyz5h9 (http://www.mediafire.com/?vrf1pyfyvoyz5h9)

I can hear more, however, no closer to figuring it out. Thank you for all the posts and help on this topic. More welcomed - any more thoughts?

IF YOU DO, FEEL FREE TO POST THE RECORDING HERE TO SHARE WITH OTHERS - I WOULD BE INTERESTED IN HEARING OTHER VERSIONS OF IT. THANKING YOU IN ADVANCE.

The recording is my property (c), and so are the results; however, credit will be given to the person who can figure it out. Fair?

There are things I know and things I don't - this is one of those things I don't. I am very serious about this and nervous to share it.

Any comments??? ...and thank you for stopping by...

Cheers!!!

applecrusher1992
12th February 2011, 00:29
There is this software I have been using called Audacity which is under General Public License http://audacity.sourceforge.net/ which seems pretty good. I have never imported this type of file however they mention you can only import this type of file in their new Beta 1.3 version as shown here http://audacity.sourceforge.net/help/faq?s=files&i=wma-proprietary. If the link doesn't work just Google it otherwise I think this is a pretty good tool for editing all sorts of audio and the best part is that its free.

king anthony
12th February 2011, 00:43
Thanks for the info... right now is difficult for me to load software and do it myself (plus I have never used anything like it), however, good to know for the future when I can! FYI, the links worked.

moana
12th February 2011, 03:09
wow, what a very interesting story

i am really intrigued about the 'tune' and what it sounds like..

so do this think this 'tune' is in some way special.. like maybe it can activate dna/ tune you into higher frequencies/ unlock memory???

have you had any interesting experiences since or prior to having this recording/ listening to the tune, that you think may be relevant?

also thanks for sharing this!

king anthony
12th February 2011, 03:22
My life is full of experiences, which I wouldn't call interesting (a lifetime worth)... meh at best. So I don't know how or if the 'tune' plays into the big picture.

I would describe the tune.. like an 'electric guitar' playing a rhythm fast - five times in three seconds. It was loud, just as I recall it when it used to wake me up.

kinerkid
12th February 2011, 03:54
Would you feel comfortable converting the file to mp3 and posting it on the thread for us to hear and comment on?

king anthony
12th February 2011, 04:00
How?

I have no problem sharing. If someone could enhance the audio, it may tell more.

kinerkid
12th February 2011, 04:09
Are you on a mac? If so, try pressing control then click on the icon of the file. Choose "open with" and open in itunes. Once Itunes has opened the file, again press control and click the file inside of iTunes, then choose "create mp3 version."

If you're on a pc....I have no freakin' clue!!!!!

king anthony
12th February 2011, 04:12
_____pc_____

Teakai
12th February 2011, 04:25
I had posted a topic, posted some replies, and had a few brief conversations since I have been part of this forum. I would like to thank everyone for their replies on the above said topic - and thank you for allowing me to be part of this group.

Some may be wondering what this post is about... I have decided to share the story of it. I didn't want to before because I didn't want to affect the results if someone were to enhance the recording.

I decided to share the story now because I did not what this post to appear like a grab for attention.

So now, if I may, I would like to post this topic. I have an audio recording:

2:02 mins long

.amr file (plays on Quick Time Player)

191 KB

Created - December 12 2010 5:39 pm

THE STORY (in brief)


I was staying at a friend's place.

Around 5:10 pm I had gone out, leaving behind a recorder.

Around 5:26 a friend was dropped off at a location.

Around 5:36 pm I was sitting in a parking lot and a text had come in at this time; I was at best 15 to 20 mins away from my friend's place.

Around 5:55 pm I arrived back at my friend's place.

Around 6:05 pm I went to the desk where the computer was - and my recorder.

I was listening to recordings from the night before when I discovered the above recording - recorded at 5:39 pm.

Some strange sound is at the beginning, faint sounds throughout, ending with a loud 'tune'.

I listened to the ending repeatedly as it sounded familiar; eventually I realized I had woken up to the 'tune' through my life and dismissed it as a dream.

No one was at my friend's house during the time I was gone - and I didn't record it.

One other person, who listened to the recording, had said the tune sounded familiar to them - they too claim of strange things.

What I don't understand is - how can a 'tune' from my dream be recorded - on its own. The answer may be in the recording itself.


I make oath and say, the above said is true.

Does anyone have the right equipment (software) to listen to, analyze and record the findings of this recording? Although there is sound, some sort of enhancement will be needed.

The recording is my property (c), and so are the results; however, credit will be given to the person who can figure it out. Fair?

There are things I know and things I don't - this is one of those things I don't. I am very serious about this and nervous to share it.

Any comments???

I am not sure how to get this recording to someone, but I am sure we will figure out a way (for example, maintaining our privacy - email - I have an idea for this). I don't have experience in uploading / downloading audio files if this is a suggestion.

...and thank you for stopping by...

Cheers!!!

Hi King Anthony - can't you play what you have into a microphone plugged into your computer and then upload it here so we can listen to it?

Edit - I'm a bit late with that suggestion :)

Hope you can do it - am curious about the tune.

king anthony
12th February 2011, 04:27
I had sent the file to someone here... waiting to see if he got it. He may be able to covert it and enhance it.

king anthony
12th February 2011, 04:33
I'm still waiting to hear back - I sent the file to him not too long ago.

king anthony
12th February 2011, 05:06
Anyone know how to drop a MP3 file here?

Teakai
12th February 2011, 05:24
Anyone know how to drop a MP3 file here?

Mmmmm, this looks like a job for Pythonic cow - who is excellent at explaining stuff like that.

The way I did it was to click on the icon - in the tool bar at the top of the reply box - 2nd from the end with the music note on it - and then paste the link between the brackets. But that wasn't from anything I'd recorded myself so it may work differently.

Good luck :)

king anthony
12th February 2011, 05:32
A link? I have the file(s).

Thanks for the help.

Another member had converted the recording into a MP3 (thank you norman).

The MP3 version (turned up) has only static until the end - the tune seems to come in clear though.

The .amr file has no static, but I cannot turn the volume up anymore to hear more (headset only right now).

MP3 - the strange sound in the beginning cannot be heard, and the fait sound throughout either; however, I leave it up to you to listen... when I can get it posted.

I will look into it tomorrow morning, it's late here and my mind has left the building.

Dennis Leahy
12th February 2011, 05:58
When you convert a recording into MP3 format, you will lose some fidelity, especially high frequencies. I would recommend uploading the original .AMR file, and some folks may have software that can hear it directly, the same way you are. Also, if you want to save it as a different file format, maybe .WAV is a better idea than .MP3, as the file will not lose fidelity. A WAV file is quite a bit larger than an MP3 file of the "same" material (that's because it holds more of the original audio data.)

Dennis

p.s. You might think about the possibility that the digital recorder "has better ears" than you do, in other words, it may have recorded faithfully what was there, but your ears did not hear it. Also, some recorders will boost weak sounds up, and possibly quiet loud sounds down (I think that's called "quantizing"), so the very faint background sounds may not be audible to your "naked ears", but the recorder captures them.

Weirder still, occasionally, plumbing or wiring in a house will act as a sort of radio receiver, and if your toilet is singing softly, you would not be the first to report it.

If this was an older recorder that uses "tape", then things get extra weird, as the sound data from one wrap of tape can and will "bleed through" to another physical wrap of tape (the magnetism in the magnetic particles isn't necessarily halted by the thin Mylar tape. Old tapes may never erase thoroughly, and could provide some spooky sounds or music that you'll swear had been erased - yet it is still there.

Adrift
12th February 2011, 07:07
Hi king anthony, what a fascinating story. I think Dennis Leahy's suggestion is an excellent one, perhaps you could post the original file - and make it available in other formats too.
You'd need to upload it to a file sharing website, MediaFire.com (http://www.mediafire.com) is a good one, it should give you a link (once uploaded) that you can paste here.

kinerkid
12th February 2011, 07:15
"...if your toilet is singing softly..."

HAHAHAHAH!!!! There are so many ways to follow that up, but I'll just leave them in my head. :D

:thanks: for the outloud chuckling!!!

king anthony
12th February 2011, 12:08
Okay, I think I did it. I downloaded the .amr file. Let me know!

http://www.mediafire.com/?a97ug44fvymjsyp

Keep in mind: no one was at the house, the (digital) recording device was at the house on a desk/table, it recorded by itself(?). See my original post for details.

The first two seconds has an unusual sound - throughout, it sounds like there may be faint sounds - the last three seconds is the lout 'tune'.Thank you to everyone who had replied. I look forward to what, if anything, others can hear.

Cheers!!!

Lucc30
12th February 2011, 13:01
I've heard something similar myself - but this sounded more digital, while 'my' sound is more analogue, like a trumpet but same 'soundgraphic'.

It has been many years since I've heard it now though. Often in connection with a sleep paralyzis experience.

It also may be a plain EM signature manifesting from say, maybe wireless connection? You said it laid by your friends computer, right?

777
12th February 2011, 13:21
I've had a look at this in my audacity. I could do with looking at the waveform in adobe audition as it's far more precise, but for now.......I can see no recorded waveform at all apart from the start and end. This is strange because there's definately background noise.

As a recording musician the middle part (bit with no waveform) sounds like the background noise I get when my mic is on and there's traffic outside and life happening. It sounds exactly the same so no surprises there. But the start and end are certainly strange.

Also can I ask was this recorded on an analogue tape? If so you can get instances where the tape ribbon itself has expanded or contracted and thus mixed the last part of a recording session with the first part of another.

If it's been recorded digitally (which it does sound like) then I'm puzzled!

Hope this has helped, thanks for posting.

king anthony
12th February 2011, 13:40
It may have been a while since I heard the 'tune' myself, until the recording. I say 'may have been a while' because I am continuously experiencing many types of things, so I cannot say when I last heard the 'tune'.

The recording device was not on and locked, meaning it needed a password to get into it. The tower was on the floor and the recording device on the desk/table - about 4 - 5 feet away.

I was listening to recordings from the night (nights) previous as I had some strange events, which I recorded. I am always a skeptic before a believer of anything, despite the fact I have experienced (and know) so much.

I have attempted to apply logic to this (as I am sure others will do)... 'did the recorder turn on by some mistake (on its own) and recorded a sound through the speakers of the computer (which was locked aswell)? Did someone get into my friend's place and was messing around (given my life, this may be possible too)?

A trumpet??? I never thought of that.

777
12th February 2011, 13:46
It may have been a while since I heard the 'tune' myself, until the recording. I say 'may have been a while' because I am continuously experiencing many types of things, so I cannot say when I last heard the 'tune'.

The recording device was not on and locked, meaning it needed a password to get into it. The tower was on the floor and the recording device on the desk/table - about 4 - 5 feet away.

I was listening to recordings from the night (nights) previous as I had some strange events, which I recorded. I am always a skeptic before a believer of anything, despite the fact I have experienced (and know) so much.

I have attempted to apply logic to this (as I am sure others will do)... 'did the recorder turn on by some mistake (on its own) and recorded a sound through the speakers of the computer (which was locked aswell)? Did someone get into my friend's place and was messing around (given my life, this may be possible too)?

A trumpet??? I never thought of that.

By the sounds of it, this isn't a case for logic, coz what you've described is most weird! Maybe try a more spiritual approach. Analyse the bit you can hear ie.....what is the tune, what are the lyrics to that song, who is the artist etc etc etc. There should be a clue there subjective to you, in which case, knowing why or how it happened become irrelevant.

Just a thought though...

vibrations
12th February 2011, 13:49
When I was listening to the file I had a feeling to hear a couple of times something like breathing. The tune was like someone opening a music file without wanting to. And then end. This would be logical conclusion if the device wouldn't be locked. But recording devices may also be triggered from the other dimension, and there are millions of psycophonies recorded all over the world. I woudn't discard it.

king anthony
12th February 2011, 13:50
It is a digital recording.

The location of the desk/table was in a (finished) basement (large detached house), so it would be hard to pick up outside noise - can hardly hear the door bell when downstairs.

It would be interesting if someone can 'filter', enhance, and turn up the hard to hear parts (turn down the loud part) and share it here.

Thank you to everyone for comments... more are welcomed as, from all the odd things in my life, this one... has my attention.

king anthony
12th February 2011, 14:01
@777 - I don't know the 'tune' (song) other then I used to wake up to it (abruptly) in the past (middle of the night). I always apply logic first, this said, it would appear this does have meaning (specific to me) - but I don't understand this. Many things have been mad known to me, some things have not - such as this. My life is full of weirdness and I am wondering how (if) it all ties together.

@vibrations - I can hear things as well, but have not shared them (other then the obvious 'tune') as not to affect independent interpretation. The computer has a few songs on it and none have the 'tune' in it - opened a song by mistake, possible. I have not disregarded the recording - it is what it is.

Lucc30
12th February 2011, 14:18
All natural and logical explanations excluded I believe it to be a signature related to the story described in this post:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?13580-Unexplained&p=129015#post129015
:)

king anthony
12th February 2011, 14:26
@Lucc30 - interesting referral to the other post, not so much with regards to this recording, but other elements of the story - it got my attention!

Gone001
12th February 2011, 14:55
Neat K.A. One time I was dreaming and it started with me lying in bed. Then I was bouncing off the walls. The dream instantly changed and I was in a field on a riding lawnmower. The grass was very tall. As I rode I hit a beehive that was nestled in the grass and fell from the mower. The bee's all started coming at me. I panicked and woke up. To my surprise when I woke the bees were still hovering above me for about 20-30 seconds until they slowly faded away. They weren't moving or anything they were just stuck there, then as I said they faded.. Probably the weirdest dream experience I had ever had and I still have no idea what the hell happened haha. Anyway look forward to hearing this recording.

Cheers,

Aldous

Lucc30
12th February 2011, 15:07
@Lucc30 - interesting referral to the other post, not so much with regards to this recording, but other elements of the story - it got my attention!

It was then I always heard the trumpetlike sound very similar to your tune as a kind of signature when these events would happen. I have not had the courage to dig into it yet (not certain I ever will). What I do not get is the fact that you were not in the immedite vicinity when the signature was played....

You seem more courageous than me - so please report if you like when you know more about the incident.
:yes4:

king anthony
12th February 2011, 16:32
@Aldous - thank you for sharing. I don't have answers for the experience. Logic would say that your mind (in a semi dream state) played tricks on your eyes (this is the type of logic I use on myself when trying to understand) - however, the vision was more then a mere passing moment - maybe you were not to forget it.

@Lucc30 - I wouldn't say I am courageous, as these things have been 'imposed' onto me - leaving me with no choice but to... as well as put me on the path I am on. It's been more of a burden in this civilization, as ignorance it bliss. However, would I change things, such as not have these things in my life if I could - I cannot say for who would I be then.

@EVERYONE - I took the risk... and posted, in my profile, many examples of the weirdness in my life. Maybe, it may help explain the recording... maybe not.

Gone001
12th February 2011, 17:31
@Aldous - thank you for sharing. I don't have answers for the experience. Logic would say that your mind (in a semi dream state) played tricks on your eyes (this is the type of logic I use on myself when trying to understand) - however, the vision was more then a mere passing moment - maybe you were not to forget it.


Mainstream Logic might say that but not intuitive logic which is the only kind worth having. If it was my 'eyes playing tricks on me' I would have known. I've woken up in semi sleep states before and had 'my eyes play tricks on me'; this was not the case in regards to this experience and if it was I wouldn't have shared the story! As you said it was 'more then a mere passing moment' which was the big difference in comparison to a simple eye trick. At the same time I woke up in a panic state (fully conscious and lively) and not a 'half asleep' state so I knew full well what I was looking at and how out of place it was lol. Anyway not looking for any answers (unless of course someone knows what this was then feel free to PM me :P) just sharing one of my own many strange experiences haha.

Cheers,

Aldous

king anthony
12th February 2011, 17:51
@Aldous - I do appreciate your sharing one of your own many experiences.

My applying mainstream logic was not an attempt to discredit or disprove your experience; I was simply trying to apply the same standard I use with my own weird experiences.

I have no doubt of the event, and that is why in the end I stated it was more then a mere passing moment. My not having any answers to your experience was expressing my wish that I had either an explanation for the event or an accurate (true) interpretation as to what it meant (for you) - I don't.

This existence has many elements to it; it is up to the individual to experience them when presented. I welcome other people to share their experiences... this is not just about me. :)

Garry Irwin
12th February 2011, 20:22
I downloaded the AMR file and converted it to a WAV file.
Then I opened the WAV in Wavelab.
The waveform was very low in volume, so I normalised it to -0.3dB. All this means is Wavelab scans the entire file to find the loudest peak and amplifies everything with respect to that peak. It's a non-destructive operation.
I'm trying not to get too technical here, sorry...
Listening to the now normalised file, I hear at the very beginning about one second of something that sounds like breath being expelled on a microphone from close up.
Then there is just under 2 minutes of nothing but very quiet static (like a microphone left on and recording in a quiet room) before the strange garbled sound at the end.
I really don't know what this is, but it sounds like a badly recorded, distorted voice which repeats five times, each time quieter than the last.
Just to take one instance of the utterance reveals nothing intelligible. It's like part of a word maybe, I don't know.
It's quite unnerving to listen to, especially knowing from your description, how it was recorded.
I would be interested to hear the analysis of other sound engineers...
thanks

king anthony
12th February 2011, 20:34
@Upanatom - Thank you for your input - is it possible to share the modified recording here? That would be great if we had variations of it. I would like to hear what you have.

Setras
12th February 2011, 21:17
I have lots of audio processing equipment. i wil extract the two portions and do what i can for you. The last bit to me sounds familiar aswell

king anthony
12th February 2011, 21:34
@Setras - that would be great! Thank you. I am sure I can hear something in the 'middle' part... voices maybe, others have said they can hear something as well. A person, I personally know, said they thought they could hear a (water) tap turn on... with water coming out of it. Interesting how we all hear different things.

The last bit? A real song?

General comment to anyone:

Since this post, I have put some thought into it; either one of two things - something from the Twilight Zone or someone got into the house, hacked the recording device and accidentally recorded 2:02 mins.

One sounds crazy and the other paranoid - however, given my life story, both are possible. I've even sat here rethinking the events of that 'evening', over and over. The person who was dropped off had listened to it afterwards and was disturbed by it - so I know this is not in my head.

Garry Irwin
12th February 2011, 21:41
king anthony...
It's not a variation or a modification, per se... simply the same thing converted into a different audio file format (from AMR to WAV) and normalised (brought up to normal listening level).
The reason I had to do that is because Wavelab, my preferred choice of audio software, doesn't have the codec for the AMR file-type.
Having said that... once it's in Wavelab, I can manipulate it in any way I can think of... but that's not the point is it?
The end product I have is just a larger file size, but basically, the same as your original except louder.
Converting to WAV format doesn't change anything as it's a lossless process.
AMR (Adaptive Multi-Rate) is an audio data compression codec (COmpression/DECompression) optimised for speech.
I wasn't planning to upload it to a file hosting service as you have already done this. Anyone who is running Quicktime on their computer will be able to play this file as is.
Perhaps I'll try some manipulation in Wavelab and see if I can make any further sense of it, although from your description about how it was recorded makes no sense either.
Strange stuff indeed.
thanks

king anthony
12th February 2011, 21:55
I guess I used the word 'modify' incorrectly, as a layperson not familiar with the correct terminology. To me any variation from the 'true' or original copy is 'modified lol.

Making parts louder is perfect; I understand what you will be doing, even though I don't know how you will be doing it.

No problem about sharing it here, I am interested to see what others have to say about it; sharing it is a bonus if anyone does.

Originally, I didn't want to post the story behind the recording in hopes of getting a 'pure thought' on it... impossible to do as it would appear to be just another recording.

Thank you to everyone for participating or just stopping by.

DianeKJ
12th February 2011, 22:39
Sounds like you have a ghost. If you are up for it try having a quesiton session with it. You may not hear the responses, but sometimes it will record it. :)
-Di

king anthony
12th February 2011, 23:15
I have recordings from the night before; and I didn't ask anything of the nonhuman species either. These (and other) events follow me and have been with me all my life.

kinerkid
12th February 2011, 23:33
Ok. You all will probably crucify me but....does it remind you of the opening guitar riff of the American Idol theme song?

Ack!!!! I know...I know!

king anthony
12th February 2011, 23:38
I don't watch TV so I don't know. It does sound like an electric guitar to me too. Can anyone verify this?

If so, then how???

There was no TV in the room this took place in; just a bed and desk/table.

king anthony
12th February 2011, 23:47
Okay, so I listened to the 'American Idol Full Theme Song' on YouTube... 1:48 seconds. It kind of does, however, there are no other sounds in the recording; the song has drums (a beat) and other instruments.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSBosoQA904

The recording also seems to be more intense - unless the recording is distorted. It still would not explain how it was recorded.

Just thinking... although the recording device was on the desk/table a distance away... it may have been plugged into the computer via USB (I cannot recall for sure) - but the device was locked, meaning it required a password to use it.

kinerkid
13th February 2011, 00:06
I don't think it's American Idol - just reminded me a bit of that opening line. Did you say that you have heard this song before or did I misread that? If so, does it continue or just repeat this same bit over and over again? If it does continue, can you describe more of the melody?

king anthony
13th February 2011, 01:53
Did you say that you have heard this song before or did I misread that? If so, does it continue or just repeat this same bit over and over again? If it does continue, can you describe more of the melody?

I recall waking up to it (abruptly) in the past... the 'tune' at the end of the recording, nothing more then just that part - when I would wake up it stopped. Furthermore, it was as loud as in the recording - loud, but never disturbing anyone else.

king anthony
13th February 2011, 03:12
Okay, an Avalon member has converted the audio file in an MP3 and improved the quality. Thank you to Upanatom for the work.

Here is the link:

http://www.mediafire.com/?vrf1pyfyvoyz5h9

I can hear more, however, no closer to figuring it out. Thank you for all the posts and help on this topic. More welcomed - any more thoughts?

king anthony
13th February 2011, 03:31
Aside from the 'breath' in the beginning and the 'tune' in the end;

at the 1:01 mins mark there seems to be an odd dull metallic noise for about 2 seconds.

Through out I can hear... voices? As well as other sounds - anyone hear that 'rumbling sound?

At 1:46 mins another sound that stands out.

Mike Gorman
13th February 2011, 04:02
This piece of music at the end of the white noise sounds like an electric guitar riff, possible a neighbor practicing-it has a staccato
attack, and is a quite distinctive figure, it appears in many popular songs.

king anthony
13th February 2011, 04:20
sounds like an electric guitar riff

I agree what it sounds like; however, there is no way to hear even upstairs from where the recording was made. Two things to this recording are, that no one could have turned the recoding device on as it was 'locked' (and no one was at the house), and I have woken up to this 'tune' in my past (this is not to say it is not a real song).

As I am not familiar with the term you used, I had to look up the definition; here it is for anyone else. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Staccato

I was wondering if there is anything more you can tell me (others) about the 'riff'? Style, genre, the era it may have belonged to, or even who may have played the piece.

king anthony
13th February 2011, 16:32
@Anyone (who knows how to do it) - is it possible to 'manipulate' the recording or 'take it apart' to see what, if anything, may be within the recording?

king anthony
15th February 2011, 04:10
Anyone try listening to this backwards? I am unable to; however, I would like to know if there is anything more.

Setras
17th February 2011, 11:43
Anyone try listening to this backwards?

Yes... But i have to turn round to see the screen to stop play.......lol, seriously though, after cleaning the sample and increasing the volume I got what could be music.... Found though when looped it sounds like one of those floor buffers... will post the link later

king anthony
17th February 2011, 12:57
Anyone try listening to this backwards?

Yes... But i have to turn round to see the screen to stop play.......lol, seriously though, after cleaning the sample and increasing the volume I got what could be music.... Found though when looped it sounds like one of those floor buffers... will post the link later

Thank you for your help with this. It does almost seem like music or voices in the background... something is going on. When you say 'floor buffers', do you mean the 'things' that shine the floor (waxing)? I would like to be sure I understand it. I have had so many interpretations of what this recording could be and I thank everyone for contributing. This seems to be getting more bizarre.

Setras
17th February 2011, 13:11
http://www.mops-and-more.com/images/burnisher.jpg

king anthony
17th February 2011, 18:38
.

That is a very big photo... a simple yes or no would have worked lol :)

Well, I can assure you (and others) that a 'floor buffer' is not what made the sound - at least in this reality.

king anthony
7th March 2011, 00:00
Hello all. I am just wondering if anyone has come up with anything?

Elixer
30th March 2011, 21:32
I got the mp3 and listened to it. Like you said there is a noise at the beginning and then a guitar sounding riff at the end. In between there is static.
The story is facsinating though. There is a phenomenon called EVP: Electric Voice Phenomenon.
It is in a similar vein as the reverse audio in that it is mostly up to the interpretor to get meaning out of it. There are some interesting videos about this too.
Basically it is a radio tuned to static. The operator asks questions and then there are voices replying through the radio static. As if spirits are looking for a medium speak through.
Your report reminded me of that. I haven't read the entire topic yet, so if this has already been addressed, apologies.

king anthony
30th March 2011, 21:47
I got the mp3 and listened to it. Like you said there is a noise at the beginning and then a guitar sounding riff at the end.

Thank you for listening to it.

Any input is welcomed! I have been 'doing' (EVP) recordings for some time (video and audio) either by chance (security systems I had) or by design (set-ups) - however, this is the only one that recorded as I stated.

I do not have the software or equipment to analyze recordings. I was wondering if you could listen to it backwards for me or even share the results of it here. I would appreciate it very much.

Elixer
31st March 2011, 00:02
I reversed the mp3 file (and saved it as mp3 with the same bitrate 320 kbps).
It starts with the two releveant sections reversed and slowed down to halfspeed. The entire file reversed in normal speed comes right after.
You can download the file from here:
Rev-Dec 12 2010 539pm A.R.M. (c) 2011.mp3 (http://members.ziggo.nl/claudlex/Rev-Dec%2012%202010%20539pm%20A.R.M.%20(c)%202011.mp3)

king anthony
31st March 2011, 00:57
I reversed the mp3 file (and saved it as mp3 with the same bitrate 320 kbps).

Thank you very much!!!

Trail
31st March 2011, 00:59
I have downloaded the .amr file to re-enhance it and up the volume.

From the AMR i converted to wav using 'Mobile AMR converter'

The resulting .wav was 8000hz, 16bit, mono, something my profesional ESI Juli@ studio soundcard will not handle, unlike any simple soundblaster card.

Thus resampled with Soundforge pro 10.0, using anti alias filter and interpolation accuracy set to 2. resulting in a 44100hz, 16 bit, mono file.

I wanted to up the volume to the max without clipping and without processing, so i had the file analised and the volume was down to -15db at the loudest part, the end. wich i removed and pasted in a new file. The bulk of the recording at the front was -28db. I upped the volume +15db and +28db for both files (front and back).

This is the most honest way i can enhance the sound.

From what i heard while doing this i noticed something like breathing noises, at ~4 seconds, and around ~53 seconds into the first part. this location is marked in the top image by the cursor.

http://www.djtrail.nl/images/audiograph.jpg

In the endpart file i notice the spike. This is very interesting. Even if a tune would play from like another mobile phone or some other device thats doing this.. that spike and its sound seem like something is moving around.. its seems like a contact sound to me on top of the ´tune´.

So far so good.. here are the links to the enhanced version.. (same recording, with the end cut to a new file so the first part could be enhanced even more without making the last part clip/distort)

Broadband internet:
firstpart28db.wav (http://www.djtrail.nl/files/analysis/firstpart_28db.wav) (10,07Mb wav)
endpart.wav (http://www.djtrail.nl/files/analysis/endpart.wav) (215kb wav)

For those with little bandwith, the mp3 version, but still in highest quality:
firstpart28db.mp3 (http://www.djtrail.nl/files/analysis/firstpart_28db.mp3) (4,57Mb 320kbit mp3)
endpart.mp3 (http://www.djtrail.nl/files/analysis/endpart.mp3) (101kb 320kbit mp3)

king anthony
31st March 2011, 01:22
I have downloaded the .amr file to re-enhance it and up the volume.

From the AMR i converted to wav using 'Mobile AMR converter'

In the endpart file i notice the spike. This is very interesting. Even if a tune would play from like another mobile phone or some other device thats doing this.. that spike and its sound seem like something is moving around.. its seems like a contact sound to me on top of the ´tune´.

Amazing, wow and thank you very much!

I have no idea what you were saying throughout your explanation, but I am sure others will (the graphs were useful for me).

Your last paragraph has me wanting to ask more questions (if I may); such as, what do you mean by "interesting" and "moving around"?

Is there anything you consider odd about the recording?

Are you saying there was another device that accounts for the 'tune' at the end?

I have listened to the versions you gave (a few times already). The main part of the recording - there is something in the background, I can't make it out. Anyone one have any ideas?

thunder24
31st March 2011, 01:24
ONly if you account for interdimensional beings, but it does sound like breathing, don't know why they would need too. Very interesting noises though.
peace

king anthony
31st March 2011, 01:50
ONly if you account for interdimensional beings, but it does sound like breathing, don't know why they would need too.

My life knows all to well 'those others'; I say, they are real, as all things of 'flesh and blood'.

Sierra
31st March 2011, 01:58
Both tracks have to me a rotating or revolving vortexy sound ...

king anthony
31st March 2011, 02:00
Both tracks have to me a rotating or revolving vortexy sound ...

I can almost hear 'voices' (?) or something...

Sierra
31st March 2011, 02:06
Both tracks have to me a rotating or revolving vortexy sound ...

I can almost hear 'voices' (?) or something...

I can't really distinguish anything on the first track. The second track now, whatever that sound is it reverberates five times to diminishing effect. Whatever that is, I've never heard anything like it.

Lifebringer
31st March 2011, 02:18
Can you convert it to a youtube site or account to be translated so we can hear it? My curiosity is very much aroused.

king anthony
31st March 2011, 02:45
Can you convert it to a youtube site or account to be translated so we can hear it? My curiosity is very much aroused.

By clicking on the posted files, you can listen to the recording.

Post #62
Broadband internet:
firstpart28db.wav (10,07Mb wav)
endpart.wav (215kb wav)

mcaballero
31st March 2011, 03:24
I just made an audio analysis.

I do have to ask you some questions, as it raises a suspicion. You did leave the sound recorder on its own. Did you leave it turned off or on? If I understood correctly, you noticed an unattended recording that was performed at 5:39pm. And it was 2 minutes. I find it suspicious that that strange noise was recorded at the end of the recording, just when the recorder decided to turn itself off.

In regard to the first part of the recording, I see nothing suspicious there, just regular background noise.

Here goes the spectrogram of the last part of the recording:

http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/m504/mcaballero1977/sound.png

There is a periodic structure. And the repetitions of the structure are almost identical, except that progressive repetitions tend to get higher frequency components (it tends to get slightly more yellow in the upper frequencies).

This is exactly what happens when there is acoustic feedback. Acoustic feedback occurs when a speaker plays back what a microphone just recorded a fraction of a second earlier.

Why would this happen? I think that there is a software fault in your sound recorder. It somehow started recording by itself, and then started playing back at the same time it was recording. It certainly would help if you could detail what brand and model your recorder is, and it would be wise to check the Internet for reports of software faults with this recorder.

I do not wish to be a party spoiler, but just help you in finding the truth.

9eagle9
31st March 2011, 03:38
I am curious to have a confirmed megahertz of the recording-- what range of cycles it falls in. Based on previously posted information I peg it at around 8 megahertz, the same cycle the brain is operating at when in dream state. That cycling may be significant in regards to be able to hear this tone upon awakening when the brain wave activity hasn't risen too far out of range for catching such anomalies vs hearing it when one is awake mode when the cycle isn't within range.

I'm no expert at this but am scrabbling it together based on what I know about brain entrainment.

king anthony
31st March 2011, 03:41
I just made an audio analysis.

I may have mentioned in the thread (somewhere) it was a deactivated BlackBerry phone; meaning it was not in service (7 months).

I used it to record notes and other "EVP" type recordings (deliberately). I was listening to the ones from the night before - before 'stepping out'.

FYI - In the past I have used other devices for the same, either by chance or design; example, audio and video security system, digital recorders and so forth. Yes, I have other recordings from other sources.

This was the first time I had a "self recording" and the 'tune' at the end was a first as well.

I left it on and locked it, meaning a password was needed to do anything with it.

The first part of the recording had a "breath" sound - do you feel this was anything?

The acoustic feed back - this means the repeating sound could actually be one brief sound that repeated?

I am looking for answers - nothing is ruled out. I thank you so much for your time and input. Is anything more you can add with the answers given?

Evelon
31st March 2011, 05:19
I just made an audio analysis.

I do have to ask you some questions, as it raises a suspicion. You did leave the sound recorder on its own. Did you leave it turned off or on? If I understood correctly, you noticed an unattended recording that was performed at 5:39pm. And it was 2 minutes. I find it suspicious that that strange noise was recorded at the end of the recording, just when the recorder decided to turn itself off.

In regard to the first part of the recording, I see nothing suspicious there, just regular background noise.

Here goes the spectrogram of the last part of the recording:

http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/m504/mcaballero1977/sound.png

There is a periodic structure. And the repetitions of the structure are almost identical, except that progressive repetitions tend to get higher frequency components (it tends to get slightly more yellow in the upper frequencies).

This is exactly what happens when there is acoustic feedback. Acoustic feedback occurs when a speaker plays back what a microphone just recorded a fraction of a second earlier.

Why would this happen? I think that there is a software fault in your sound recorder. It somehow started recording by itself, and then started playing back at the same time it was recording. It certainly would help if you could detail what brand and model your recorder is, and it would be wise to check the Internet for reports of software faults with this recorder.

I do not wish to be a party spoiler, but just help you in finding the truth.


Oh....

I may be just fooling with myself, I don't know, but I opened the image in photoshop and played around with it, adding noise, putting some effects... and just rotating the image, so... this are some of the results.... -


http://img829.imageshack.us/img829/5387/wtfai.th.jpg (http://img829.imageshack.us/i/wtfai.jpg/)

king anthony
31st March 2011, 05:31
I may be just fooling with myself, I don't know, but I opened the image in photoshop and played around with it, adding noise, putting some effects... and just rotating the image, so... this are some of the results....

Very interesting, something more possibly uncovered - thank you.

TimelessDimensions
31st March 2011, 08:07
It sounds like my ring tone.

Just kidding hehe. Don't let the ghouls bother you. If you don't fear them they can't affect you.

Best way to get rid of the ghouls is to make sure that you respect the free will of others.

Some people want to stay asleep, respect their free will and don't try to wake them up until they ask you.

;)

Ammit
31st March 2011, 09:43
When I was doing EVP recordings on ghost hunts, I used a digital recorder ( an olympus vn-2100pc ). The sound at the start of your recording is what I got every time, I debuged it as sound movement while suddenly moving the recorder without hitting or rubbing it on anything, like the sound made when swiping a sword through the air. The final part sounds more like it is picking up stray signals, a magnet around the recorder might do this sort of thing.

Just my penny worth.

Ammit

Trail
31st March 2011, 09:46
I couldn't understand the recording.. since u where away for a longer time.. i assumed you had cutted the most interesting part of a longer recording and posted a smaller piece..

But now i come to understand that you did not turn the recorder on yourself? (Q1: Why would you think of checking the device for a recording then?)

For this reason i ignored the first part of the recording, thinking it must be contaminated by yourself turning on the mic and putting it down somewhere, i ignored that part. But now that i know its not you and must be of interest i think it sounds much like someone breathing out directly into the mic.

When you put the volume up high theres those breathing noises at 4 and 53 seconds just further away from the mic and not into it (it could be just arm distance away but also can be meters away compared to the loudness of the first breathing noise into the mic at the start, this depends on the mic type and its orientation). but i hear no movement in between.

The endpart with the spike, i called it a contact sound. It sounds like something is in direct contact with the device, i have no other explanation for this sound. It just sounds similar as a singer putting down the microphone on the stage or some table.

U know the last thing i can add is that the contact sound starts about 0.3 - 0.5 seconds after the start of the tune. About the average human reaction time. Say u know a recorder is on and you want a clean recording but some machine starts beeping, u would reach for the recorder so you can start over. The contact sound would be in perfect timing for that.

Lastly a note about accoustic feedback . To feedback you need those speakers feeding back into the mic wich then feeds what it hears back to the speakers amplified, creating a feedback loop... Since a blackberry has no option to use the device as a megaphone, by using a mic and outputting what it hears straight through the speakers in realtime, feedback seems impossible to me.

Thats all i can think of..

Namasté

thunder24
31st March 2011, 12:10
I hear voices in the last part of of it called end. It sounded like the loud noise was actually saying something. Cant make it out though. "the others" you speak of king, What is your contact experience with them? Have you had pleasant conversations, or does it seem to always be unlawful interference?
peace

Trail
31st March 2011, 12:56
Both tracks have to me a rotating or revolving vortexy sound ...

I can almost hear 'voices' (?) or something...

I can't really distinguish anything on the first track. The second track now, whatever that sound is it reverberates five times to diminishing effect. Whatever that is, I've never heard anything like it.

The revolving vortexy rotating sound COULD possibly be caused be the resampling processing done by me. There is no other way for me to hear the .amr file at 8khz frequency with my soundcard, wich goes all the way up to 192khz but can't do a low 8khz file.

I have reuploaded a new version, wich resamples the .amr file with different settings (anti aliassing still on, but Extrapolation Accuracy set to 1, used for low sounds in studios..) high frequency noise is less prevailent in this version and it makes the breathing noises more noticable i think..

firstpart_EA1_43.3db_boost.wav (http://www.djtrail.nl/files/analysis/firstpart_EA1_43.3db_boost.wav) (10.04mb wav)
endpart_EA1_15.9db_boost.wav (http://www.djtrail.nl/files/analysis/endpart_EA1_15.9db_boost.wav) (252kb wav)

firstpart_EA1_43.3db_boost.mp3 (http://www.djtrail.nl/files/analysis/firstpart_EA1_43.3db_boost.mp3) (4.55mb mp3)
endpart_EA1_15.9db_boost.mp3 (http://www.djtrail.nl/files/analysis/endpart_EA1_15.9db_boost.mp3) (117kb mp3)

At least the vortexy sound should be way different in this version if its indeed caused by the processing.

king anthony
31st March 2011, 14:07
(Q1: Why would you think of checking the device for a recording then?)

About the average human reaction time.

To feedback you need those speakers feeding back into the mic wich then feeds what it hears back to the speakers amplified, creating a feedback loop... feedback seems impossible to me.

Prior to leaving, I was listening to EVP type recordings from the night before. The nights prior I was having (what I refer to as) 'weird experiences' (nothing uncommon with me). During one such experience, I decided to make a recording of it.

My BlackBerry recorded up to one hour at a time - so what I ended up doing was turning it on and leaving it; occasionally waking up to turn it back on during the night. Yes, I did have some unusual recordings but nothing unusual for me.

When I returned from dropping my 'friend' off, I wanted to continue to listen to the night recordings; it was then when I discovered the 2:02 mins recording. I clicked the last recording on the device, thinking it was the 'night one' - at first I couldn't figure out what the recording was (as it didn't match what I was listening to prior).

I looked at it and my first thought was, I must had recorded it by accident (in my pocket) while driving (I used it to record notes) - thus dismissed it. As I went to the night recording, I realized that I didn't have it with me and that it was left on the table.

No speakers.

Interesting you point out human reaction time - I am not ruling anything out, even a real person breaking in and tempering with the recording device (seriously). Obviously someone or something thing made that recording - and it was not me!

king anthony
31st March 2011, 14:14
I hear voices in the last part of of it called end. It sounded like the loud noise was actually saying something. Cant make it out though. "the others" you speak of king, What is your contact experience with them? Have you had pleasant conversations, or does it seem to always be unlawful interference?
peace

I have known 'these others' all my life and my experiences are not just of one type. I do brief these events throughout my manuscript/book if you're interested; or feel free to PM me.

dan33
31st March 2011, 14:43
I would describe the tune.. like an 'electric guitar' playing a rhythm fast - five times in three seconds. It was loud, just as I recall it when it used to wake me up.

It seems to me "a guitar with echo" and the same sound repeats five times.
Strange;)

Thanks for the thread. "Tonight" i will read all the post. .... i'm curious about it.

king anthony
31st March 2011, 14:44
At least the vortexy sound should be way different in this version if its indeed caused by the processing.

Thank you again for the work done; I've listened to it again and again and I (personally) am no closer to understanding this recording.

I truly appreciate everyone's input on this; I am seeking answers to some things like most others.

Sierra
31st March 2011, 17:25
<snip>
The revolving vortexy rotating sound COULD possibly be caused be the resampling processing done by me. There is no other way for me to hear the .amr file at 8khz frequency with my soundcard, wich goes all the way up to 192khz but can't do a low 8khz file.

I have reuploaded a new version, wich resamples the .amr file with different settings (anti aliassing still on, but Extrapolation Accuracy set to 1, used for low sounds in studios..) high frequency noise is less prevailent in this version and it makes the breathing noises more noticable i think..
<snip>

At least the vortexy sound should be way different in this version if its indeed caused by the processing.

It is different. It doesn't fade now. But that is all I can tell. What is interesting to me is that this sound (the ending sound) is at 8KHZ range. Now isn't that the range for binaural tones used in meditation?

king anthony
31st March 2011, 21:30
t seems to me "a guitar with echo" and the same sound repeats five times.

That is what it sounds like to me...

Trail
31st March 2011, 22:44
It is different. It doesn't fade now. But that is all I can tell. What is interesting to me is that this sound (the ending sound) is at 8KHZ range. Now isn't that the range for binaural tones used in meditation?

I think you are confusing 2 things:
1) The recording format the blackberry saves to is 8000hz (8khz). This doesn't mean that the sounds contained in the recording are 8000hz.
You could think of it as the file having like 8000 storagepoints per second. You could also think of it as a small floppy disc. Whereas 44100hz is the standard for CD´s, and 48000hz is the standard for most DVDs. 8000hz is low quality and very comparable to telephone landline quality.

2) i think you mean 8hz for the human brain, not 8000hz (8khz), Yes its just 8 cycles per second for our brain to be in 'slow alpha' mode. (http://www.brainwavesblog.com/)

Sierra
31st March 2011, 23:02
It is different. It doesn't fade now. But that is all I can tell. What is interesting to me is that this sound (the ending sound) is at 8KHZ range. Now isn't that the range for binaural tones used in meditation?

I think you are confusing 2 things:
1) The recording format the blackberry saves to is 8000hz (8khz). This doesn't mean that the sounds contained in the recording are 8000hz.
You could think of it as the file having like 8000 storagepoints per second. You could also think of it as a small floppy disc. Whereas 44100hz is the standard for CD´s, and 48000hz is the standard for most DVDs. 8000hz is low quality and very comparable to telephone landline quality.

2) i think you mean 8hz for the human brain, not 8000hz (8khz), Yes its just 8 cycles per second for our brain to be in 'slow alpha' mode. (http://www.brainwavesblog.com/)

Yes, it was 2) that I was thinking of. Wow, quite a bit of diff between 8000hz and 44100hz for a CD. No wonder it is hard to figure out what we're hearing.

Thanks Trail, I could actually follow your explanation lol :)

dan33
1st April 2011, 00:32
What is interesting to me is that this sound (the ending sound) is at 8KHZ range. Now isn't that the range for binaural tones used in meditation?[/QUOTE]

Something like this?
rGWjrup-5KU

noprophet
1st April 2011, 00:40
For binaural beats it isn't an exact value of frequency. It is simply an 8Hz differential between the tone in the right ear and the tone in the left.

Sierra
1st April 2011, 00:47
What is interesting to me is that this sound (the ending sound) is at 8KHZ range. Now isn't that the range for binaural tones used in meditation?

Something like this?


Exactly! And BTW that is the most pleasant piece of binaural I've ever heard ...

dan33
1st April 2011, 01:50
What is interesting to me is that this sound (the ending sound) is at 8KHZ range. Now isn't that the range for binaural tones used in meditation?

Something like this?


Exactly! And BTW that is the most pleasant piece of binaural I've ever heard ...

May be i'm going "a little bit" out of the topic. Michael Stearns has a great musical themes that surrounds the binaural "energy".

Ry1jCmapj2Q

Strat
1st April 2011, 01:59
I've listened to that tune a few dozen times now. It is a common bluesy riff to a metal beat. I tried playing it on my guitar, unfortunately I'm an amateur guitar player. I can get really, really, close but I can't seem to hit the nail on the head. I'm pretty sure there is no echo, just distortion. It may be tuned down a full step, but don't take my word for it. I'll post what I came up with for the hell of it.

It seems almost as if it were 'moving.' You can test this if you're curious: Set a recorder down on the desk, play a song, record a few seconds, then stop. Then repeat, except this time pick up the recorder, move it close to the speaker then away. Listen to the difference, the second one in theory will resemble this phenomenon.

That sound at the beginning is peculiar. It almost sounds like an amp when it gets bumped. I'll hammer-fist my amp to show what I mean.

dan33
1st April 2011, 02:11
For binaural beats it isn't an exact value of frequency. It is simply an 8Hz differential between the tone in the right ear and the tone in the left.

Thanks, noprophet. "It should necessarily an 8Hz differential between...."? I'm a beginner on this things. The analog music is more "full of energy" than the digital "mathematic" with less harmonics? ( Cook by fire, will be the analog recording. The microwaves oven will be the digital recording)
;)

king anthony
1st April 2011, 02:23
I've listened to that tune a few dozen times now. It is a common bluesy riff to a metal beat. I tried playing it on my guitar, unfortunately I'm an amateur guitar player.

That sound at the beginning is peculiar. It almost sounds like an amp when it gets bumped. I'll hammer-fist my amp to show what I mean.

That would be "cool" if you could replicate the "tune'" in the end (as I call it) and post it. I would like to know the "who, what, how and why" of this recording, so any input would be helpful.

I've listened to it some more and there seems to be "voices" or something way in the background - it would be interesting if someone from, example NASA, could play around with it - like that would ever happen.

Again, to everyone - thank you so much. If it were not for the support of good people here, this would have been shelved with most everything else in my life. I took a chance and posted here and although no absolute answers have come of it yet - I (we) are steps closer.

Cheers to all!!!

T Smith
1st April 2011, 02:35
Interesting... can you elaborate a little? I'm unclear about one thing. Were you recording when you left your friend's house? Or was the recorder off? If you were recording, to what end? Also, is your epiphany that this tune is a part of your normal dream state -- or maybe a signal you recognize between the liminal state of consciousness between waking reality and the dream state?

king anthony
1st April 2011, 02:53
Interesting... can you elaborate a little? I'm unclear about one thing. Were you recording when you left your friend's house? Or was the recorder off? If you were recording, to what end? Also, is your epiphany that this tune is a part of your normal dream state -- or maybe a signal you recognize between the liminal state of consciousness between waking reality and the dream state?

I was listening to a recording(s) from the night(s) before - of "weird things", I deliberately recorded. Then I was asked if I could drive someone somewhere. I had stopped playing the recording (got out of that menu) and locked the recording device (a BB).

After listening to the "tune" many times I realized I had woken up to it (abruptly) years ago (the first time I recall I was as a teenager) - as if someone turned on a stereo (loud) while I was sleeping. I dismiss it as a dream - however, now I seek answers to what it could be.

I have been woken up by these "tunes" from time to time. I do know (this is going to sound crazy) I wake up to voices, example calling my name (loudly) and even speaking to me - to this time in my life.

This recording stands out because 1. I didn't make the recording, 2. it appears to be connected to my past and 3. I have evidence of it.

T Smith
1st April 2011, 03:22
Interesting... can you elaborate a little? I'm unclear about one thing. Were you recording when you left your friend's house? Or was the recorder off? If you were recording, to what end? Also, is your epiphany that this tune is a part of your normal dream state -- or maybe a signal you recognize between the liminal state of consciousness between waking reality and the dream state?

I was listening to a recording(s) from the night(s) before - of "weird things", I deliberately recorded. Then I was asked if I could drive someone somewhere. I had stopped playing the recording (got out of that menu) and locked the recording device (a BB).

After listening to the "tune" many times I realized I had woken up to it (abruptly) years ago (the first time I recall I was as a teenager) - as if someone turned on a stereo (loud) while I was sleeping. I dismiss it as a dream - however, now I seek answers to what it could be.

I have been woken up by these "tunes" from time to time. I do know (this is going to sound crazy) I wake up to voices, example calling my name (loudly) and even speaking to me - to this time in my life.

This recording stands out because 1. I didn't make the recording, 2. it appears to be connected to my past and 3. I have evidence of it.

I can only provide an intuitive hypothesis of what this could mean... to me this experience suggests a "message in a bottle" so to speak, from yourself, to yourself. That is, a larger aspect of your own consciousness is attempting to make contact with your ego-consciousness on its more limited turf of perception.

I wouldn't get too hung up on the mechanics of how this is possible, e.g. the recording part. The fact that you have made this connection is pretty amazing. If I'm on track here, you are the only one who can possibly decode what this can mean. Perhaps a part of you is trying to connect with the message that you are about to "wake up" or "transition" to a new state of being -- a metaphor of awaking from a dream state by a loud stereo? It is probably more profound than that, but if you look at this experience as some kind of message from yourself in context with events in your life right now, or in context with events immediately juxtaposed against the experience, it may open some doors ??

Dunno. Just saying. This kind of reminds me of the Vonnegut novel, Sirens of Titan, where the protagonist stumbles upon a profound and mysterious letter addressed to himself, a primer of guidance of sorts meant to help him navigate the future. The letter is laden with clues and wisdom, written by a seasoned mentor showing the reader the ropes, and it is only at the end of the letter when we (and the character) realize the letter is written and signed by himself.

Interesting stuff....

Strat
1st April 2011, 04:06
That would be "cool" if you could replicate the "tune'" in the end (as I call it) and post it. I would like to know the "who, what, how and why" of this recording, so any input would be helpful.


I'll load it up tomorrow or something when I have the energy.

I hesitated saying it, because I don't want to send Avalon on a Metallica rampage, but the tune has Kirk Hammet (Metallica's lead guitar player) written all over it. If you listen to songs like One or Master of Puppets, you'll hear almost the exact same riffs. The notes may be identical. It's driving me crazy that I can't put the riff to the correct song.

Metallica has been such a huge influence that it could easily be another band that draws their inspiration from Metallica. Still, I have a nagging suspicion...

dan33
1st April 2011, 04:12
If I'm on track here, you are the only one who can possibly decode what this can mean. ?

This kind of reminds me of the Vonnegut novel, Sirens of Titan, where the protagonist stumbles upon a profound and mysterious letter addressed to himself, a primer of guidance of sorts meant to help him navigate the future. The letter is laden with clues and wisdom, written by a seasoned mentor showing the reader the ropes, and it is only at the end of the letter when we (and the character) realize the letter is written and signed by himself. [/QUOTE]
T Smith

You hear that "signal" on a very specific state of mind... between the awakening and light sleep, so thinner barrier. How was recorded (solidified on tape)... i don't know. Ted Serious make "thoughtographs". May be you "amplified the sound " on a band that the recorder could taped it (catch it) . It's not so strange. I'm sure that kind of things are very often... but we are not aware of it (may be we are too sleep to get the "signal")
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Serios

Strange and amazing thread, Anthony ;)

king anthony
24th June 2011, 13:44
I say, I have attempted to share evidence of one event in my life – I stand behind my words with such evidence, my name, photo and video. I do not know how the said was recorded and I have woken up to the “tune” in my past. What this means I do not know – however, I do feel there is a message with this for me; which I do not understand at this time. Thank you to everyone who participated with this – know, I still seek an answer.

I remain silent now as I leave.

DeDukshyn
11th April 2012, 01:05
I say, I have attempted to share evidence of one event in my life – I stand behind my words with such evidence, my name, photo and video. I do not know how the said was recorded and I have woken up to the “tune” in my past. What this means I do not know – however, I do feel there is a message with this for me; which I do not understand at this time. Thank you to everyone who participated with this – know, I still seek an answer.

I remain silent now as I leave.

Consider this ...

All smartphones can be remotely activated. It appears to me yours was, but somehow the mic and speaker were activated together which resulted in an eventual feedback sound, triggered by a sound that was made or that your recorder had made as a result of receiving some sound. This appears to have been "timed" -- to an "expected" event perhaps?

The sound is very familiar to most as anyone who has lost consciousness and was "awake" for the process of "coming to" hears that sound while the frequencies that your brain receives in the form of "ethereal" sounds, adjusts to receive "physical" sounds that your physical ears are receiving. I'm not sure if "feedback" is the right term for this ... more like "frequency alignment" -- a similar effect happens with your "touch" sensors when a hand falls asleep and "tingles" while your body re-syncs the electrical signal frequency.

Some of the other poster's speculations seem to support this.

As a general curiosity .. why have you deleted all the files at the end of your links?

king anthony
11th April 2012, 04:17
Consider this ... why have you deleted all the files at the end of your links?

...okay...

DeDukshyn
11th April 2012, 15:20
It was a serious question ... okay?

Bongo
11th April 2012, 20:39
As a general curiosity .. why have you deleted all the files at the end of your links?

Chances are he didn't, mediafire & other sites that perform the same task delete files after about 30 to 60 days of its last download so they can free up storage space.

King Anthony, any chance you could re upload the clear recording so I can take a listen to it? if its not to much trouble that is

Endity
11th April 2012, 20:44
He left which is sad :(

DeDukshyn
11th April 2012, 22:27
There's more to all of this than meets the eye, I am pretty sure ...

tonton
11th April 2012, 22:33
interesting story king, but unfortunately the link didn't work for me.

Cilka
12th April 2012, 03:55
People, I have some weird stuff on my tape recorder. I lived in this haunted place two years ago, it either had a portal that opened at certain times to a different dimension or there was a stone, yes stone, underneath the house that acted as a tape recorder and it recorded everything that occured at that place over time, and I am not joking. I actually contacted this guy in Calgary, he had his own company thingsthatgobumpinthenight dot com, he even taught some classes on how to do investigations on haunted houses. Well, I had this guy download some of my stuff and he never got back to me, so I never found out if my place was haunted or I was nuts. Either way I wanted to know. I think he used my stuff in his classes and then kicked my ass, so to speak.

I want to finally figure out what it is that is speaking on the tape recorder that I used during the nights when I was sleeping. What is the best way to transfer the info on the voice activated tape recorder into the computer? I am just really stupid in computers.

Cjay
12th April 2012, 12:39
Cilka, I hope the following explanation helps you to record the sound from your tape onto your computer.


In short:

Get the right type of cable to connect your tape recorder/player's audio OUTPUT to your computer's audio INPUT (microphone/Line In socket). Plug in the cable.
Open your sound recording software.
Select the file format for the sound you are about to record.
Adjust your recording levels (input sensitivity).
Record the sound on your computer.


If you can't make sense of it, tell me where you get stuck and I will do my best to explain it to you.


1. Get the right type of cable
You need to connect your tape recorder/player's Line Out or headphone socket to your PC's microphone/Line In socket.

The type of cable you need depends on the type and size of your tape recorder/player's Line Out sockets or headphone sockets.

If your tape recorder/player is very old, it will probably have a 1/4 inch headphone socket and two RCA sockets for left and right Line Out. In this case, the best option is to use a cable that has two RCA male plugs on one end and a 1/8 inch (3.5mm) stereo jack (male) plug on the other end. See picture below.

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41JGQR4TJML._SS500_.jpg
2 x RCA male to 3.5mm jack cable

Connect the two RCA plugs to the left and right Line Out sockets and plug the 3.5mm jack into the microphone/Line In socket on your computer.


If your tape recorder/player is relatively new (approx. 10 years old or less), then it probably has a 1/8 inch (3.5mm) headphone socket. In this case, you need a 3.5mm jack (male) to 3.5mm jack stereo cable. See picture below.

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41IKN5qK7PL._SS500_.jpg
3.5mm jack to 3.5mm jack stereo cable (note the two black rings on the jacks - this tells you it is a stereo cable)

Plug one end into your tape recorder/player's headphone socket and plug the other end into your computer's microphone/Line In socket.


If your tape recorder/player only has a 1/4 inch (7mm) headphone socket and no RCA Line Out sockets, then you will need a 7mm jack (male) to 3.5mm socket (female) stereo adaptor. See picture below. You will also need a 3.5mm male to 3.5mm male stereo cable (see picture above).

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/21Jvk1IeISL._SL500_AA300_.jpg
7mm jack to 3.5mm socket (Please note, these pictures are not to scale.) The cable above plugs into the socket of this adapter.

If in doubt, take your tape recorder/player to any audio or electronics store and tell them what you want to do. They should be able to supply the correct cable (and adaptor, if needed).


2. Open your sound recording software
You could use the sound recorder software that comes with Windows, called Sound Recorder (NOT recommended) or you can download much better free software to do the recording. (See more about free software in the video below and the link at the end of this post).

If you have a Macintosh computer, you can use the Garage Band (free) software that comes with your mac.


3. Select the file format for the sound you are about to record
In the recording software, select the format of the file you are about to record - either .WAV (CD-Audio) format or MP3 (compressed audio) format.

If you record a .WAV format file (the format used on CD Audio discs), you can easily convert the .WAV file to .MP3 format for sharing on the internet. If you ONLY want to share the sound on the internet, then set the file format to .MP3 before you start recording. How you do this depends on which software you use to record.

WAV format is better quality sound but a MUCH bigger file size - not suitable for sharing on the internet. MP3 format is commonly used on the internet because of the much smaller file size. There are literally dozens of different sub-formats for MP3 and each sub format will produce a file of different sizes.


4. Adjust the recording level (mic/line input sensitivity)
Find the loudest part of the tape and play this while you listen to the sound coming out of your computer.

You may need to adjust the output volume on the tape recorder/player and/or adjust the recording level (input sensitivity) on the computer's microphone/Line In input (this is done in software). If you are not sure how to do this, search Google (or other search engine) for the phrase "how to adjust microphone input level". Precisely how you do this depends on the type of computer and the software you are using. There is a good explanation for PC, with pictures, in the link at the end of this post.

If the volume is too loud or the input level is too high, the sound recorded on the computer will be distorted (horrible sounding noise when the sound is loudest or possibly all of the time).

The recording or audio mixer software should have some type of visual display meter representing the input (mic/line) level. Ideally, to avoid the recording on the computer being distorted, you want the loudest sounds to go close to maximum but not hit the maximum level. If there is no visual meter, just use your ears to set the mic/line input level so it sounds as clear as possible.


5. Record the sound from the tape onto your computer
Now you should be ready to record the sound from the tape onto your computer.

Make sure you rewind the tape to the start.

To start recording, press RECORD on the recording program, then press PLAY on the tape recorder/player.

To stop recording, press STOP on the recording program then press STOP on the tape recorder/player (if it didn't already stop itself).

I suggest you do a short test recording (about 10 seconds), then listen to the sound quality on your computer. If you are happy with the sound quality of the recording on your computer, rewind the tape and record everything from the tape.


If everything I just explained is "clear as mud", try watching the video below and/or view the web page in the link at the end of this post.


The following video is a tutorial that shows you step-by-step how to record from your tape recorder/player to your PC. Coincidentally, the guy who made the video is a paranormal investigator.

KTbJOyeZHx4


The following web page explains how to record from tape (or LP/vinyl record) onto your computer, then onto CD. It is worth looking at this page if it helps you to understand the recording process.

http://www.pbcomp.com.au/record-music-cd-from-tape-or-lp.html


If you are still confused, just ask and I will do my best to help. It might be best to send me a Private Message in case I forget to come back to this thread.

Good luck!
Cjay.

DeDukshyn
12th April 2012, 15:19
People, I have some weird stuff on my tape recorder. I lived in this haunted place two years ago, it either had a portal that opened at certain times to a different dimension or there was a stone, yes stone, underneath the house that acted as a tape recorder and it recorded everything that occured at that place over time, and I am not joking. I actually contacted this guy in Calgary, he had his own company thingsthatgobumpinthenight dot com, he even taught some classes on how to do investigations on haunted houses. Well, I had this guy download some of my stuff and he never got back to me, so I never found out if my place was haunted or I was nuts. Either way I wanted to know. I think he used my stuff in his classes and then kicked my ass, so to speak.

I want to finally figure out what it is that is speaking on the tape recorder that I used during the nights when I was sleeping. What is the best way to transfer the info on the voice activated tape recorder into the computer? I am just really stupid in computers.

My ex had a psychic reading done once and the session was audio taped. In the tape you can hear a voice that was not there at the time (not really a human voice either - higher pitched and a bit squeaky - like how one might realistically imagine a cat talking). In one spot where the voice was most clear, you could hear the voice saying the same response of the psychic, but just ahead of when the psychic spoke it -- as though a being was "telling" the psychic what to say, or speaking through her in some way .. it was a bit creepy. ;)

Cilka
13th April 2012, 02:49
Thanks Cjay, I will give it a try. I cannot wait to find out what the voices say, no matter what it is I will be OK as I no longer live there. If I lived there now and I found out that a dark entity resided there with me, to be honest with you I think I would poop in my pants. I will keep you posted.

DeDukshyn,that sounds like the psychic had a connection to an entity residing in 4D. Creepy, indeed. That's why people should question psychics and not believe everything they say. Most of them are under the control of these entities, but then again there are some that are amazingly accurate and genuine. You got a proof that psychics can and are under the influence of something that cannot be seen or heard. Most people don't want to know the truth which is sad.

panopticon
17th April 2012, 04:32
Cilka, I hope the following explanation helps you to record the sound from your tape onto your computer.


Excellent post Cjay!

I shall be adding it to my growing collection of useful links to provide to others.
Kind Regards, :yo:
Panopticon