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jackovesk
14th February 2011, 16:28
Sunday, February 13, 2011

The Problem With Transnationals And What To Do About It?

Wal-Mart store openings kill three local jobs for every two they create.

The Prisoner's Dilemma - Anthony Migchels, Contributing Writer
Activist Post

http://ts1.mm.bing.net/images/thumbnail.aspx?q=409447443280&id=6350f8f9f5190dcbb9399d4048912162&url=http%3a%2f%2fraleighfencecontractors.com%2fimages%2fbehind_bars_xsmall.jpg

New York’s Public Advocate, Bill de Blasio, recently released a very important study about Wal-Mart’s effects on local communities. It represents a major step forward in the understanding of the effects of Big Business.

These effects are insufficiently understood, because scholars have degenerated into spin masters for Big Business, simply because it is Big Business that controls their budgets, allowing only studies explaining how wonderful they are. It’s the same process that led medical ‘science’ to the conclusion that Mustard Gas is beneficial to human health.

However, correctly directed science is indeed capable of coming to useful and even truthful conclusions, and the mentioned report is a case in point. I recommend studying it, the offered link leads to a compact 10-page executive summary with all the main conclusions. It is indispensable ammo for community leaders of good faith.

Although the report investigates Wal-Mart in the USA, it is clear its conclusions can be extrapolated to the European situation. Just fill in Aldi, Lidl, Ahold, Carrefour, Sainsbury, Coles, Woolworths or Tesco, depending on your local situation.

The Di Blasio Report

The main conclusions are shocking, to the point, and make clear what damage Wal-Mart actually managed to do to the American economy. The fundamental conclusions are these:

Wal-Mart store openings kill three local jobs for every two they create. Wal-Mart is the biggest employer in the USA, with 1.4 million ‘associates’. The conclusion is that Wal-Mart alone has killed about 700,000 American jobs. Only Wall Street can boast greater destruction to the American labor market.

Chain stores, like Wal-Mart, send most of their revenues out of the community, while local businesses keep more consumer dollars in the local economy: for every $100 spent in locally owned businesses, $68 stayed in the local economy, while chain stores only left $43 to re-circulate locally. This means Big Business has a deflationary effect on local economies. And this in turn explains why Big Business destroys both employment and business. These two conclusions are more than sufficient to make the study worth while, but I’ll give a few more just to further the point.

Stores near a new Wal-Mart are at increased risk of going out of business. After a single Wal-Mart opened in Chicago in September 2006, 82 of the 306 small businesses in the surrounding neighborhood had gone out of business by March 2008.
Wal-Mart’s average annual pay is $20,774, which is below the Federal Poverty Level for a family of four. In fact: a Wal-Mart 'spokesperson' publicly acknowledged in 2004 that ‘More than two thirds of our people . . . are not trying to support a family. That’s who our jobs are designed for.’ So, Wal-Mart is an effective accomplice in the social engineering campaign of our bosses, isolating people and consciously attacking the family unit. The above makes abundantly clear that Wal-Mart and Big Business in general have a profoundly negative impact on economies, both locally and nationally.

So why do people shop at major Retail Chains?

Of course it is useful to have the figures. But then again; we already knew this. We know Big Business is just destroying small- and medium-sized businesses and we also know that these smaller businesses are the backbone of our economy.

Sure, these stores offer a certain convenience, usually having a larger assortment of goods. Why go to four shops if you can get everything at one? We don’t have the time! But we don’t have the time because we need three jobs to maintain the illusion of a middle-class status. And we need these jobs because we are accomplices in the plundering of our communities and neighbors.

And of course Big Business is often cheaper. At least until they have destroyed the local competition, after which they start their monopoly pricing operation.

So we make decisions that damage our neighbors, favor ourselves in the short term, but eventually make us and our kids go begging for a $20,774 per year job.

Are we just stupid? Yes, we are; we know we are. But there is also the ‘prisoner’s dilemma’. The prisoner’s dilemma is a fundamental problem in game theory that demonstrates why two people might not cooperate even if it is in both their best interests to do so. It was originally framed by Merrill Flood and Melvin Dresher working at RAND in 1950. Albert W. Tucker formalized the game with prison sentence payoffs and gave it the 'prisoner’s dilemma' name (Poundstone, 1992).

A classic example of the prisoner’s dilemma (PD) is presented as follows:

Two suspects are arrested by the police. The police have insufficient evidence for a conviction, and, having separated the prisoners, visit each of them to offer the same deal. If one testifies for the prosecution against the other (defects) and the other remains silent (cooperates), the defector goes free and the silent accomplice receives the full 10-year sentence. If both remain silent, both prisoners are sentenced to only six months in jail for a minor charge. If each betrays the other, each receives a five-year sentence. Each prisoner must choose to betray the other or to remain silent. Each one is assured that the other would not know about the betrayal before the end of the investigation. How should the prisoners act?

The problem is, that most people don’t trust their peers to do the right thing and therefore they just take the short-term gain themselves. This is a major trump in the hands of Big Business and basically explains why they are so successful in enslaving us. It is interesting that this behavior is defined as ‘rational’ in economic game theory.

Solutions

So we are the victim of a classic ‘prisoner’s dilemma’. What can we do?

Individually

In the first place: individuals can transcend the prisoner’s dilemma by just deciding not to play along. Especially when we are not facing the kind of prison sentences as in the example. All we stand to lose is a little discount here and there. And why are we allowing ourselves theses discounts when we know we are dealing with the devil anyway? We are being mind-controlled into believing cheaper is better, but anybody giving it a little thought must realize that this is simply hogwash. Our decisions should be made on far more profound grounds than just price.

We needn’t worry about the idea that we would not be acting ‘rationally,’ as defined in game theory, because not all people are as stupid as most economists. Douglas Hofstadter decided to call players doing the right thing in the prisoner’s dilemma ‘superrational’. And right he is: people benefit from cooperating and taking the long term into account (so long as the short term isn’t immediately lethal) is clearly rational behavior.

We should also take into account that we lead by example. It is a common human trait to wait for others to do what is necessary. It is this trait that got us here anyway. The simple fact of the matter is that it is a thousand times more powerful to put our money where our mouth is, than it is to forward this article to everybody we know. We can only change ourselves; and however difficult this may be, the good news is that our actions can inspire others.

Once we realize what we are dealing with, we must be able to understand that we need to quit shopping at Big Business outlets, and start patronizing local businesses. For our own sakes and for that of our neighbors.

Systemically

Not only do Regional Currencies (RC) make us less dependent on the nefarious banking system, they also profoundly strengthen us in the struggle with Big Business. Most Regional Currencies don’t allow Transnationals to participate (and usually Big Business is not interested to do so). This means RC’s can be spent only at local shops and businesses.

It is clear that this is a very useful aspect of these currencies: they increase the competitiveness of local business, because people owning some of the currency can only spend them at local enterprises.

Even if you patronize local business exclusively, it still makes sense to pay with an RC, because the shop owner can only spend the money at his or her colleagues' businesses. So even after you have spent your money, you still positively influence the local economy. If you pay with a dollar, there is a higher chance your local supplier will spend the money outside your own region.

Conclusions

Big Business is destroying our economy and we are accomplices in this process by shopping at their outlets.

We should immediately quit doing so! A rational appraisal of the situation leaves us no other choice.

Regional Currencies, beside their other useful benefits, exclude Transnationals and enhance the local economy by strengthening the competitiveness of local businesses. Even if we do the right thing by shopping locally ourselves, it is still useful to pay with them, because we strongly encourage our local suppliers to shop in the neighborhood as well.

http://www.activistpost.com/2011/02/problem-with-transnationals-and-what-to.html

conk
14th February 2011, 18:40
From what I've read this was not Old Man Waltons plan. This WalMart monster is the making of his children.

jjl
14th February 2011, 18:40
I wont shop there EVER!

BrianEn
14th February 2011, 21:39
I try not to. I used to buy everything from there. I found that I'd spend more money in there because everything is one place. Lots of impulse buying. I'm trying to deal more with local merchants, but at times they don't have what I need. I did find a nice family run grocery store that has a good selection.

crosby
14th February 2011, 21:45
Sunday, February 13, 2011

The Problem With Transnationals And What To Do About It?

Wal-Mart store openings kill three local jobs for every two they create.

The Prisoner's Dilemma - Anthony Migchels, Contributing Writer
Activist Post

http://ts1.mm.bing.net/images/thumbnail.aspx?q=409447443280&id=6350f8f9f5190dcbb9399d4048912162&url=http%3a%2f%2fraleighfencecontractors.com%2fimages%2fbehind_bars_xsmall.jpg

New York’s Public Advocate, Bill de Blasio, recently released a very important study about Wal-Mart’s effects on local communities. It represents a major step forward in the understanding of the effects of Big Business.

These effects are insufficiently understood, because scholars have degenerated into spin masters for Big Business, simply because it is Big Business that controls their budgets, allowing only studies explaining how wonderful they are. It’s the same process that led medical ‘science’ to the conclusion that Mustard Gas is beneficial to human health.

However, correctly directed science is indeed capable of coming to useful and even truthful conclusions, and the mentioned report is a case in point. I recommend studying it, the offered link leads to a compact 10-page executive summary with all the main conclusions. It is indispensable ammo for community leaders of good faith.

Although the report investigates Wal-Mart in the USA, it is clear its conclusions can be extrapolated to the European situation. Just fill in Aldi, Lidl, Ahold, Carrefour, Sainsbury, Coles, Woolworths or Tesco, depending on your local situation.

The Di Blasio Report

The main conclusions are shocking, to the point, and make clear what damage Wal-Mart actually managed to do to the American economy. The fundamental conclusions are these:

Wal-Mart store openings kill three local jobs for every two they create. Wal-Mart is the biggest employer in the USA, with 1.4 million ‘associates’. The conclusion is that Wal-Mart alone has killed about 700,000 American jobs. Only Wall Street can boast greater destruction to the American labor market.

Chain stores, like Wal-Mart, send most of their revenues out of the community, while local businesses keep more consumer dollars in the local economy: for every $100 spent in locally owned businesses, $68 stayed in the local economy, while chain stores only left $43 to re-circulate locally. This means Big Business has a deflationary effect on local economies. And this in turn explains why Big Business destroys both employment and business. These two conclusions are more than sufficient to make the study worth while, but I’ll give a few more just to further the point.

Stores near a new Wal-Mart are at increased risk of going out of business. After a single Wal-Mart opened in Chicago in September 2006, 82 of the 306 small businesses in the surrounding neighborhood had gone out of business by March 2008.
Wal-Mart’s average annual pay is $20,774, which is below the Federal Poverty Level for a family of four. In fact: a Wal-Mart 'spokesperson' publicly acknowledged in 2004 that ‘More than two thirds of our people . . . are not trying to support a family. That’s who our jobs are designed for.’ So, Wal-Mart is an effective accomplice in the social engineering campaign of our bosses, isolating people and consciously attacking the family unit. The above makes abundantly clear that Wal-Mart and Big Business in general have a profoundly negative impact on economies, both locally and nationally.

So why do people shop at major Retail Chains?

Of course it is useful to have the figures. But then again; we already knew this. We know Big Business is just destroying small- and medium-sized businesses and we also know that these smaller businesses are the backbone of our economy.

Sure, these stores offer a certain convenience, usually having a larger assortment of goods. Why go to four shops if you can get everything at one? We don’t have the time! But we don’t have the time because we need three jobs to maintain the illusion of a middle-class status. And we need these jobs because we are accomplices in the plundering of our communities and neighbors.

And of course Big Business is often cheaper. At least until they have destroyed the local competition, after which they start their monopoly pricing operation.

So we make decisions that damage our neighbors, favor ourselves in the short term, but eventually make us and our kids go begging for a $20,774 per year job.

Are we just stupid? Yes, we are; we know we are. But there is also the ‘prisoner’s dilemma’. The prisoner’s dilemma is a fundamental problem in game theory that demonstrates why two people might not cooperate even if it is in both their best interests to do so. It was originally framed by Merrill Flood and Melvin Dresher working at RAND in 1950. Albert W. Tucker formalized the game with prison sentence payoffs and gave it the 'prisoner’s dilemma' name (Poundstone, 1992).

A classic example of the prisoner’s dilemma (PD) is presented as follows:

Two suspects are arrested by the police. The police have insufficient evidence for a conviction, and, having separated the prisoners, visit each of them to offer the same deal. If one testifies for the prosecution against the other (defects) and the other remains silent (cooperates), the defector goes free and the silent accomplice receives the full 10-year sentence. If both remain silent, both prisoners are sentenced to only six months in jail for a minor charge. If each betrays the other, each receives a five-year sentence. Each prisoner must choose to betray the other or to remain silent. Each one is assured that the other would not know about the betrayal before the end of the investigation. How should the prisoners act?

The problem is, that most people don’t trust their peers to do the right thing and therefore they just take the short-term gain themselves. This is a major trump in the hands of Big Business and basically explains why they are so successful in enslaving us. It is interesting that this behavior is defined as ‘rational’ in economic game theory.

Solutions

So we are the victim of a classic ‘prisoner’s dilemma’. What can we do?

Individually

In the first place: individuals can transcend the prisoner’s dilemma by just deciding not to play along. Especially when we are not facing the kind of prison sentences as in the example. All we stand to lose is a little discount here and there. And why are we allowing ourselves theses discounts when we know we are dealing with the devil anyway? We are being mind-controlled into believing cheaper is better, but anybody giving it a little thought must realize that this is simply hogwash. Our decisions should be made on far more profound grounds than just price.

We needn’t worry about the idea that we would not be acting ‘rationally,’ as defined in game theory, because not all people are as stupid as most economists. Douglas Hofstadter decided to call players doing the right thing in the prisoner’s dilemma ‘superrational’. And right he is: people benefit from cooperating and taking the long term into account (so long as the short term isn’t immediately lethal) is clearly rational behavior.

We should also take into account that we lead by example. It is a common human trait to wait for others to do what is necessary. It is this trait that got us here anyway. The simple fact of the matter is that it is a thousand times more powerful to put our money where our mouth is, than it is to forward this article to everybody we know. We can only change ourselves; and however difficult this may be, the good news is that our actions can inspire others.

Once we realize what we are dealing with, we must be able to understand that we need to quit shopping at Big Business outlets, and start patronizing local businesses. For our own sakes and for that of our neighbors.

Systemically

Not only do Regional Currencies (RC) make us less dependent on the nefarious banking system, they also profoundly strengthen us in the struggle with Big Business. Most Regional Currencies don’t allow Transnationals to participate (and usually Big Business is not interested to do so). This means RC’s can be spent only at local shops and businesses.

It is clear that this is a very useful aspect of these currencies: they increase the competitiveness of local business, because people owning some of the currency can only spend them at local enterprises.

Even if you patronize local business exclusively, it still makes sense to pay with an RC, because the shop owner can only spend the money at his or her colleagues' businesses. So even after you have spent your money, you still positively influence the local economy. If you pay with a dollar, there is a higher chance your local supplier will spend the money outside your own region.

Conclusions

Big Business is destroying our economy and we are accomplices in this process by shopping at their outlets.

We should immediately quit doing so! A rational appraisal of the situation leaves us no other choice.

Regional Currencies, beside their other useful benefits, exclude Transnationals and enhance the local economy by strengthening the competitiveness of local businesses. Even if we do the right thing by shopping locally ourselves, it is still useful to pay with them, because we strongly encourage our local suppliers to shop in the neighborhood as well.

http://www.activistpost.com/2011/02/problem-with-transnationals-and-what-to.html

i do not shop at wal-mart. have not shopped there in 7 years. i think it's disturbing that this has been allowed to happen. i have watched my small town suffer because of this. almost every corner grocery store has gone down the toilet. now we have other big transnationals moving in. i don't know how to stop it.
warmest regards - corson

TigaHawk
14th February 2011, 22:00
I paid $8 for a dozen eggs yesturday, went shopping at a small indipendantly owned organics store which i once worked at.

The price of knowing im keeping my money in australia, and that hopefully it's getting me crap/addative free.

I'm still weary of the Gorilla Munch tho o_O *Eyes USDA Certefied organic sticker and another thread that says these stickers = Neotame*


Surprisingly its easier to shop local when you buy organic, as most of the goods are made in you're country as they dont have the addatives to last shipping/storage :)



Edit - big update on the two big corporation wallmart equivilances here would be Woolworths and Coles.

Coles has just started Masquerading that it's meat products are Hormone free. But before they make it to the shelf they're taken to a special area out back where they use these giant needle things to stab the meat, and INJECT WATER into the meat, to increase its size and weight.

You notice this the most when you stick the meat on the barbie, and that huge steak turns into a midget.


I dont think woolworths is trying to claim anything about it's meats - but since it's claimed nothing - can we assume Hormoned and that extra process out back to make a bit more $$?


Also - Australian milk farmers are going absolutely nuts at these 2 suppliers. They're dropping the price of milk, and even doing a buy this milk we'll give all proceeds to flood releif. They're ripping the farmers off in times of need. (Flood wipes out crops - they still have cow's - get crap all $$ for milk)

What the consumer doesnt understand is once the competition is wiped out (small grocers) they have no need to pricematch or keep their prices low. It will just be them pricefixing with eachother for the biggest profit.

seko
14th February 2011, 22:12
I hardly shop at walmart, but I sell them the coffee (organic) that we produce here and it's our best costumer and that's because almost all tourists than come here, go to do their shopping at walmart....I understand exactly what you are talking about and the jobs that they provide are not good. We only sell them locally not nationwide, so it is helping our local economy, money stays here. I guess it depends on what the local community is producing so that the money stays here or wherever you are.
I guess our company is in the other side of the coin....hope this info helps to see it in many ways, but I get your point Jackovesk and I agree with you.
good thread!

TigaHawk
14th February 2011, 22:18
Pssst, Seko, i think anything that has Organic on it, that isnt a con'job (called organic but with all the artificial stuff they can legaly put in before stop calling it organic...) they are exempt from the whole big shopper thing.


Again - because generaly its produced localy, and organics is a small industry as is. The problem organic sellers have is getting their product out there.

NinjaPhil
14th February 2011, 23:19
I can't comment too much here because I have a vast and relevant knowledge on the subject and this is a public forum. But yes. Anyone wants to know my opinion please PM me, I have a lot of knowledge.

In the UK, Tesco are the ones to watch for. They do a LOT of illegal stuff.

Dawn
12th August 2011, 04:49
I am in a community where there are many small 'farmsteads' and lots of local produce. I advertise for anything I use and can't find at a good price in my local Craigslist. That is how I found organic eggs for $3/doz delivered to my door. I also look in this handy on-line community forum and take advantage of people who have fruit trees that they can't keep up with. Usually I can pick my own for a small price.... sometimes even for free. I also take advantage of local farmers markets and roadside stands. When possible I grow my own in a small 150 sq ft raised garden that I created for myself. And... across the freeway is a Wallmart. I admit to shopping there for supplies I can't locate sometimes. Thank your so much for posting this information... I had no idea, I have just been living in a way that seemed the most joyous to me. I really like my relationship with the local farmers here, and with my local intimate health food store. By the way, my income is way below the national poverty level. But I always have everything I need and always feel abundant in every way.

Unified Serenity
12th August 2011, 05:13
I believe the problem is not just Walmart, but Greed. Gatt and Nafta have had their desired effect. The history lesson here is the pendulum. Business screwed the worker, the worker's united and unionized and eventually screwed the business and prices rose and rose. With Gatt and Nafta the businesses moved shop and started it all over again, but this time in countries that do not have the foundation America has and unions won't form. I remember the politicians telling us how great it would be to not have to deal with so much red tape and how prices of goods would come down for everyone. How those in other countries would do well and be able to trade more with the United States and everyone would be benefitted. All that I have seen happen is we no longer manufacture tv's, toasters, clothes, etc. in this country, the price of goods has remained the same or gone up, and the jobs have disappeared. It always goes back to greed.

chancy
12th August 2011, 05:59
I can't comment too much here because I have a vast and relevant knowledge on the subject and this is a public forum. But yes. Anyone wants to know my opinion please PM me, I have a lot of knowledge.

In the UK, Tesco are the ones to watch for. They do a LOT of illegal stuff.

Greeting Walmart Shoppers and future Walmart shoppers
I am kind of wanting to hear your opinions NinjaPhil but think that they should be out in the open so all of us Walmart Shoppers can read them!
While waiting for your opinions to come online here in the forum I am giving you all a nice documentary.
Here's the link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hftb_DVuelo
It's a great documentary!
Really the only deals in Walmart are in the isles. You know when you're walking down the isles and there are pallets of stuff between people going forward and going the other way.
It's hard not to shop at Walmart when most of the other stores are gone or just plain didn't come!
At least they supply bags FREE when you buy something there. Here most stores charge 5 cents a bag. What a racket eh? The grocery association of Canada came up with a figure for just bags and why they are charging for them....It's a 200 million dollar business just in Canada and there's only approximately 32 - 35 million people.
At least Walmart doesn't charge you a membership fee like a few other box stores....
Enjoy the documentary and capitalism because it's not going away anytime soon by the looks for the line ups in every Walmart I have been in around the world...
Regards,
Chancy
PS My favorite store is None but you have to buy stuff when living on this planet unless you live somewhere 1000 miles from nowhere!

Christine Breese
23rd August 2011, 01:52
Walmart is coming to Ecuador now, I'm so bummed. I'm sure the Ecuadorian versions of Walmart are bummed too. They aren't the giant corps like Walmart is, but they are family owned and pretty rich, selling a lot of cheap stuff to Ecuadorians that hardly works, but Walmart is going to kick their butts.

Ecuador still has a very healthy "mom and pop" reality going on. There are little stores everywhere run by a guy and his wife and family and it's pretty healthy. The department store thing is still pretty new here. However, of course there had to be someone who decided to copy the corp model of Walmarts and such. They are just starting and it hasn't affected the mom and pop biz reality yet, it's not as huge and impact yet as what's happened in the states, but it's coming, whether by Ecuadorian versions of Walmart or Walmart itself.

Correa is pretty economically smart though, he makes his mistakes, of course, but for the most part he's done Ecuador right economically. He put a 48% tariff on imports, so all of Ecuador's money isn't leaving to foreign corps, and even though it still happens because there's no other way to get certain things that just aren't made here (computers are expensive but not tariffed, so they aren't as bad as they could be if tariffed) but it was a move to inspire Ecuadorians to start producing the stuff that was being imported, and businesses have popped up to meet that demand. He also just passed a new law last week that the supermarkets, and the few department stores that are here are required by law to carry the Ecuadorian made version of any imported product they are currently carrying. Like, if Ecuador makes tomato sauce, they have to carry the Ecuadorian tomato sauce instead of the imported one.

Problem is, Ecuador isn't able to make everything that is currently imported, or they make an inferior product. Correa has invited and is looking at 200 different businesses here who are able to make the stuff that's imported, and they are setting up a system for getting them up to par and make the same products in the same quality (quality is an issue here). The govt is bringing in specialists to help these companies improve their products and the stores are going to be required to carry them then once a comparable product is created here.

Interesting, huh? This Correa prez is a graduate of Economics at a university in Indiana, Ohio, something like that, forgot where he got his degrees, but he sees the crash coming and is prepared to get Ecuador off the dollar and self sufficient before it all comes to a climax. It will be interesting to see where this goes. Ecuador is participating in creating a new gold backed currency and Bank of the South (Banco del Sur) with 6 other nations here in South Amer. A smart move! Bank of the South is what South America is creating in order to not have to deal with the IMF or World Bank anymore.