This "GLOBAL WARMING" doesn’t seem to be doing its job!

[jackovesk]

At first glance it looks like a graphic from a Discovery Channel programme about a distant ice age. But this astonishing picture shows the world as it is today - with half the Northern Hemisphere covered with snow and ice.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/02/02/article-0-0D05489E000005DC-703_964x481.jpgThe image was released by the National Oceanic And Atmospheric Association (NOAA) on the day half of North America was in the grip of a severe winter storm.

The map was created using multiple satellites from government agencies and the US Air Force.

That Antarctica, the Arctic, Greenland and the frozen wastes of Siberia are covered in white comes as no surprise. But it is the extent to which the line dips down over the Northern Hemisphere that is so remarkable about the image.

The shroud of white stretches down from Alaska and sweeps through the Midwest and along to the Eastern seaboard. The bitter cold has reached as far as Texas and northern Mexico where in Ciudad Juarez temperatures today were expected to dip to minus 15C.

In the U.S. tens of millions of people chose to stay at home rather than venture out. In Chicago, 20in of snow fell leading to authorities closing schools for the first time in 12 years. The newspaper for Tulsa, Okalahoma, was unable to publish its print edition for the first time in more than a century

This particular storm is the result from two clashing air masses which, if not unprecedented, is extraordinarily rare for its size and ferocious strength. 'A storm that produces a swath of 20in snow is really something we'd see once every 50 years - maybe,' said a U.S. National Weather Service meteorologist. Louis Uccellini, director of the government's National Centers for Environmental Prediction, said the U.S. storm also drew strength from the La Nina condition currently affecting the tropical Pacific Ocean.

La Nina is a periodic cooling of the surface temperatures of the tropical Pacific Ocean, the opposite of the better-known El Nino warming. Both can have significant impacts on weather around the world by changing the movement of winds and high and low pressure systems.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/02/02/article-1353073-0D05142E000005DC-149_964x410.jpgHundreds of drivers on Lake Shore Drive in Chicago, which was blasted by 20 inches of snow, abandoned their cars in an almost apocalyptic scene as authorities closed the road

The NOAA image shows how the weather is affecting Scotland and begins in earnest from southern Germany, through Italy and down into Greece, Turkey and Iran. Northern areas of India and China are also affected. The startling image was released on the same day Al Gore stepped up to defend his claim that global warming causes the bitterly cold weather. Thirty states in America are affected by a two-day blizzard.

Writing in his blog Al's Journal, he said: 'As it turns out, the scientific community has been addressing this particular question for some time now and they say that increased heavy snowfalls are completely consistent with what they have been predicting as a consequence of man-made global warming.' His response came after Fox News pundit Bill O'Reilly challenged the former Vice President to give his thoughts on 'why southern New York has turned into the tundra'. Generally, the view put forward on global warming is that it would lead to expanding deserts and rising temperatures. Mother Nature's wrath is not confined to the top half of the world, of course.

Cyclone Yasi, with a destructive core of more than 20 miles wide, smashed into Queensland in north east Australian overnight with 186mph winds. Authorities are calling it the worst storm to hit the country for generations.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/02/03/article-1353073-0D05DA9B000005DC-83_964x626.jpgThe impact of extreme weather is being felt in north-east Australia where Cyclone Yasi has struck along the coast of Queensland. Here, outside Innisfail, motorists wait for water to subside over the Bruce Highway

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1353073/Winter-storm-Map-shows-Northern-Hemisphere-covered-snow-ice.html#ixzz1DytF0Zgq

NOTE TO 'AL BABY':

YEAH and I've got a Bridge in Sydney I want to sell you!
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[9eagle9]

My frozen toes could have told you that ;) If there is a silver lining in everything when are we going to see the the warm side of global warming here in my state...?

[Humble Janitor]

Here we go again with the "global warming" bashing.

Just because the weather is not warm, is not a reason to discount it completely. Extreme weather patterns ARE a result of climate change, whether it means warmer weather in some parts or colder weather in others.

This is what we need to be looking at.

Extreme weather, in all forms, can be attributed to either A. Climate Change or B. La Nina/El Nino.

[jackovesk]

Here we go again with the "global warming" bashing.

Just because the weather is not warm, is not a reason to discount it completely. Extreme weather patterns ARE a result of climate change, whether it means warmer weather in some parts or colder weather in others.

This is what we need to be looking at.

Extreme weather, in all forms, can be attributed to either A. Climate Change or B. La Nina/El Nino.

What is it Humble Janitor?

Do you believe in Man Made 'Global Warming'? Yes or No?

[Lord Sidious]

Our world, like all other living things goes through cycles.
Has man exacerbated the cycle? Possibly, but this has happened before and will happen again.
The arrogance of man to think we are responsible and that we can ''fix'' it!

[chancy]

It's great to see that "global warming" has a NEW name as "climate change" At least this way there can really never be anytime when "global warming/climate change" doesn't succeed when the weather changes.
For the last 3 years now we have had lots of cold and snow just great for sledding (snowmobiling) When I was a kid we had sleds and then sold them when the weather in the winter didn't give us the snow we would have enjoyed for sledding. Now it's right back to normal with lots of snow for sledding. People are buying sleds like never before! Yes, there's always a silver lining in winter weather the way winter was suppose to be....
Back to "global warming/climate change" now I'm waiting for another new name because supposedly hot weather makes cold weather and vise versa. The only problem I have with that is anyone that uses this pretence is making a profit off it. Here in the Great White North our neighbors to the west which is British Columbia ( BC for short ) has already begun to implement ways to make large profits off climate change.....when this happens you know that the saying "follow the money" really works because the people get poorer and the government(S) get much richer. All I wish is that I had the money tree that we the people paint with cash. It's very lucrative and doesn't seem to get back to the people who paid for "global warming/climate change. Makes me think that people like Pierce Corbyn and other experts have their hats on straight since they are not fleecing us for cash. They're only telling us the same as looking out the window....and that is that it's winter with snow and ice and cold weather. The only difference is they are not in our wallets trying to get us to pay for changes in the weather that are going to happen with or without vehicles driving down the highways.
As in the late 70's and 80's we were told there was going to be a mini ice age...well this time they figured out how to charge us for natural changes in the weather.
Welcome to normal winters with a chinook thrown in once in a while to get us to appreciate a break from sledding....
Have a great day everyone!
Chancy

[Whiskey_Mystic]

/begin_rant

That "natural cycle" is currently moving at 40 x faster than it has at any point in the record left in the Antarctic ice core. The current "cycle" is unprecedented in the last 420,000 years. Give or take. The algae record agrees with the ice cores.

We are indeed going through a cycle. More than one in fact and they overlap for net affect.

Back in the eighties, before Al Gore and the oil company memos declaring that millions needed to be spent on convincing people that global warming is stupid liberal non-science, we studied this in college geophysics classes. That was back when James Watt declared that trees cause more pollution than cars and Reagan was forbidden from saying "global warming" and instead said "global change" in his speeches because oil companies said so. Now the crazy liberals are being accused of coining the term "global change" as a way of worming out of the change in public opinion against the existence of man made global warming. Throw on the NWO scare and some buzz words like "cap and trade" and you've got that wrapped up.

Someone please demonstrate a closed system where CO2 can be added without trapping heat from the sun. I'm serious. This experiment always came up the same for me.

And yes, every planet in the solar system is indeed heating up. The sun is changing too. And we are pumping huge gobs of CO2 into the air. These things are all overlapping. We can't know what effect we are having on the natural weather cycles because there is no longer any such thing as natural weather cycles.

Will we ever figure this out? No. No, because people have no interest in truth, they only want to have their beliefs reinforced. It doesn't help that the average American doesn't have a high school level education in basic science. We pick and choose the data and presentation that makes us comfortable. That's more important. and it's easy because the average person has no idea how to interpret and discern data, nor do they care. That's why we are still having debates about whether evolution versus creationism in our schools.

I'm not attached to any one interpretation of the data, but I do want to see the data. That's all anyone should want. Anything else is just......bs.

Now you kids get off my lawn!

/end_rant

[Whiskey_Mystic]

Post Rant:

Oh and another thing. The CO2 projections from 30 years ago always predicted that a rise in global temperature would trigger an ice age. That was the whole basis of Art and Whit's book.

[king anthony]

Did not human beings once say, the sun revolves around the earth, that human beings were the ultimate of 'creation', and that human beings are 'gods'!? How is it so that all the planets in the solar system are warming as well!?

'Carbon is like salt, to exhale is to give life and to be human is to simply be.'

[nearing]

Don't lose perspective, people.

Read....

Yes, it’s a record-breaking winter: Arctic sees lowest January sea ice extent in satellite record (http://climateprogress.org/2011/02/03/record-breaking-winter-arctic-lowest-sea-ice-extent/#comments)

I know, the records broken this winter are supposed to be for cold weather. But the National Snow and Ice Data Center reports:

January 2011 had the lowest ice extent for the month since the beginning of satellite records.

Why? Because while it’s been coolish in parts of the United States, it’s been very mild in the Arctic, especially northern Canada

[5thElement]

Big picture........ the climate is changing, has changed, will continue to change:rain:
Are we, as humans causing the change, probably not. However (stay with me here), we treat our planet like she's a dump. The amount of waste is insane. Waste (garbage, pollutants, chemicals, etc) that has no where to go but in the land, water & air. All of this waste produces chemical/elemental changes as it decomposes or disperses. So did we cause the change - nope- but we sure as hell aren't helping ourselves out one bit. And that's just us "little folks" - who knows for sure what kind of stuff is being dumped into our environment by the "big folks".

Now, in a world where the climate is changing, how is our treatment of our HOME going to benefit any one of us? As the weather changes, we may have to adjust what crops we grow, how we get our drinking water, maybe even where & how we live. The Earth changes her environment and species either adapt or go extinct. The difference this time is - how many places have we already ruined that could have supported our species (and others) in adapting to a changing climate?

5th

[araucaria]

/begin_rant



Someone please demonstrate a closed system where CO2 can be added without trapping heat from the sun. I'm serious. This experiment always came up the same for me.


/end_rant

The earth is not a closed system - we are receiving stuff from all parts of the universe - eg various radio waves otherwise how would we know it was there? - and sending stuff out as well, including TV soaps.
I followed the leaked email story quite closely last year. There are some serious guys eg at Wattsupwiththat.com who have been demonstrating beyond reasonable doubt that the AGW 'science' has been shockingly bad all along, to the point that carbon dioxide is now being treated as a poisonous gas - yes the carbon life is made of and the oxygen we breathe. Possibly the biggest single fact being conveniently overlooked is the 800-year time lag between CO2 levels and the corresponding heating effect.
However to denounce the scam is not the same as joining the oil lobby. Temperature data are not reliable because the data points are now in built-up areas - meaning a lot of new built-up areas producing not so much carbon dioxide as straight heat. This controversy is also masking the real debate over ecology - yes we are trashing the planet, so let's do something about that right now.

[13th Warrior]

What I find unconscionable is that people refuse to believe that what we have and continue to discharge into the atmosphere, ground, and water hasn't had or will have an effect on our environment. Of course the globalists will exploit the problem, it's one of their motos, never let a good crisis go to waste...that doesn't mean we don't need to clean up our act!

[NinjaPhil]

well a random bunch of snow happened in the last few hours in the UK, not predicted - in fact it was quite warm last night, I had no feeling it would snow at all.

[king anthony]

people refuse to believe that what we have and continue to discharge into the atmosphere, ground, and water hasn't had or will have an effect on our environment.

The issue of (humans) polluting the environment and (humans) changing the environment has been 'confused' by the design of the 'ruling class'.

Polluting the water, air and soil is something human beings have done - however, it is not 'killing the planet', as the planet (a biosphere, a machine) is designed to take care of itself.

Has not the planet been through much worse throughout its existence!? Is not the concept of '(save) mother earth' the resurrection or promotion of 'old faiths' - a religion (such as today's science)!?

It is human arrogance that feels human beings have caused great change to global weather patterns. As well as the entire solar system!? Do not these thoughts come from the same people who once said, 'human kind is alone', that ' the sun travels around the planet earth' and help create and promote this civilization!?

If reality is an illusion, time does not exist and 'problems' are accepted voluntarily; then how is the idea that a '(environmental) crisis exists' without having the same standard imposed!?

This is not to say throw 'trash on the street' or anything (individual or corporate), as that is simply not being responsible. The reality is, people do not throw 'trash in the streets' because of 'saving the planet'; but rather, because it interferes with the ability for people (and other life, for those who think past themselves) to enjoy the land they live on.

[Odah]

The stable climate the earth has had for thousands of years that allowed for the growth of civilization. Is gone.. we have entered a time where sudden unexpected changes in temperature are going to be the normal go. no global warming no global cooling.. more like global we have no clue . Humanity has eccelarate events that where going to happen anyway.

the interesting thing when you look at it is the controllers of the world have set us on this worldwide path of environmental destruction. Yet they will use that as a reason to justify mass culling of humanity.

[shybastid]

It's not a question of whether or not too many people are creating pollution here on Earth. We're working on it. Most of us don't want crowd control to kill off our brothers and sisters.
When you look at MOTIVE for "carbon credits" and the cost to do business,there IS something sinister behind "saving the earth" people. SOME of them.

Most of US do not do it for profit. We just care.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/03/business/energy-environment/03gore.html

Al Gores family has been in the coal business for generations.

I think it's unfair that he gets hallpass from making a profit on "global warming."

Call it what you want. It's a racket. And He's part of it.

Of course we could do a whole thread on Government elected officials being connected to a Corporation that reaps in millions in profits, when former officials go to the private sector, and "cash out" on newly awarded contracts.

Global Warming was SO in our faces. Taught in our classes,Peace prizes to save humanity.. Reduce our carbon footfoot.. while Al Gore collects commissions on EVERY carbon deal in the world.
NOT cool.. OR warm...for a buck..

Of course we care about the planet.
Tug at our hearts,pay with our wallet. For profit. Shame on Al Gore. The phoney.:yell:

[Odah]

Remember Bp was a big player in crafting the cap and trade legislation. there are a lot of dirty things going on in the climate movement. It has turned into another religion that paint man as evil. the thing is many who deliver the message live in their big house and fly their private gets. with their carbon footprints 1000 times the average.

[Ulric]

Any cold winter can be predicted purely from short term Solar variables. These seasonal differences dictate climatic trends and changes, not the other way round.