Open Letter to all Avalonians

[Celine]

Dear Avalon,

My heart to yours on this beautiful day and I hope this letter finds you well. I have a few concerns that have been plaguing my heart that I hope you may help in clearing it up.

First of all please allow me a moment to indulge in my love for you. A community of varied hearts, all include flaws, strengths and idiosyncrasies. I feel each heart, each individual heart print.

It creates an orchestra of love. I want to thank each one for allowing me to join in this song.

Lately...the melody has changed. Each time I come to read at the forum, my heart breaks. The feel of some hearts have changed and have added disruptions to the base line.

I love you Avalon and I feel I am slowly watching you disassemble. The presence of obvious agents provocateurs has succeeded in creating division and strife.

It is not the passionate screams of anger that worry me...but the whispers of deceit.

The false hope and empty promises are festering, and I fear for your health.

Avalon, I weep for you

Many have tried to offer me solace. Some use logic others trickery. Mind games do not work on a loving heart. I will not let you down Avalon.

I love you.

You are strong. You are heard. The world will know who you are.

This is the End Game.

Bring your fears, your anger, your mind games Throw them in the fire. You no longer need those weapons.

I will fight for you Avalon. Here or anywhere you show your heart.

All I ask...

Do not forget who you are

Be well,
love Celine

[dim]

to graduate means to be tested

[bluestflame]

transitional

[Celine]

Yes.

And how does this relate to the heart of Avalon?

I do not shun the pains of growth.

But Avalon is stronger then what is has been exhibiting.

Sharing heart... heals it.

[cayman]

Vanity, greatest trap

follow our heart. do whatever we can in our own hands. care those around you.

May we find peace in our heart

[Lettherebelight]

I don't think it does much good getting carried away by sentiment. Lamentation will get us no where. Like Abe Lincoln said, "Most people are about as happy as they choose to be."

Yes, there's big changes afoot, but we just gotta roll with it.

Don't worry, Celine, we'll get through this. :) Stay on that horse.
I guess that goes for all of us.

[Nortreb]

Dear Avalon,

My heart to yours on this beautiful day and I hope this letter finds you well. I have a few concerns that have been plaguing my heart that I hope you may help in clearing it up.

First of all please allow me a moment to indulge in my love for you. A community of varied hearts, all include flaws, strengths and idiosyncrasies. I feel each heart, each individual heart print.

It creates an orchestra of love. I want to thank each one for allowing me to join in this song.

Lately...the melody has changed. Each time I come to read at the forum, my heart breaks. The feel of some hearts have changed and have added disruptions to the base line.

I love you Avalon and I feel I am slowly watching you disassemble. The presence of obvious agents provocateurs has succeeded in creating division and strife.

It is not the passionate screams of anger that worry me...but the whispers of deceit.

The false hope and empty promises are festering, and I fear for your health.

Avalon, I weep for you

Many have tried to offer me solace. Some use logic others trickery. Mind games do not work on a loving heart. I will not let you down Avalon.

I love you.

You are strong. You are heard. The world will know who you are.

This is the End Game.

Bring your fears, your anger, your mind games Throw them in the fire. You no longer need those weapons.

I will fight for you Avalon. Here or anywhere you show your heart.

All I ask...

Do not forget who you are

Be well,
love Celine

Thanks for your eloquence, Celine! :cool:

[Celine]

Thank you.

Lamentation... *laughs*...yes you pegged it right.

but I dissagree...there is valid reasons for it.

Catalyst of change is often born in the heart.

[silentghost80]

that was beautiful celine lets all ascend together :rapture:

[Lettherebelight]

Yes, no doubt. Emotional trauma exacts change...I was just tryin to cheer you up! :)

[Celine]

You did! you made me laugh...

it was quite "lamented" lol

[Scout]

I love you Celine, your posts are inspiring. You have a beautiful heart. Let us all put the slings and arrows away.

Scout

[Luke]

Indeed.

Too many things became secret, only because of fear of not being understood.

Are we adults or we are not?

The answers are within us, there is no saviour nor messiah, but ourselves.
Everyone has part of the key, the one that is really important.

Let us bring down the walls of Labirynth and befriend the Minotaur.

[highvoltage]

Very true, a heart without love is just an empty vessel!

[Midnight Rambler]

Dear Céline

I have the same concerns as you have. Although I am not aware of the great changes here at Avalon, because I have not been a member of the forum for very long, I too felt some influences that are referring to.

My strategy was not to meddle and leave it be, but if we care for Avalon, the least one can do is express their concerns.

I am for freedom of speech but it comes with a great responsibility and it may be easy for some to forget that there is a person behind the keyboard at the other side of the line. So I would like to ask from everyone here to be a little more sensible in the way we react to each-other.

In other words, before pressing on the "Post Quick Reply" button, think of the kind of vibration you send out into the world and its possible ramifications for others.

Thank You

[bluestflame]

heal the heart , start in the centre and work your way out , like planting a forest that spreads

[Whitehaze]

Celine,

This is only chaos working to find order and common direction. We will smooth all the wrinkles out nicely, once we all see the same thing.

[chelmostef]

Indeed.

Too many things became secret, only because of fear of not being understood.

Are we adults or we are not?

The answers are within us, there is no saviour nor messiah, but ourselves.
Everyone has part of the key, the one that is really important.

Let us bring down the walls of Labyrinth and befriend the Minotaur.


Yes its all here, right here in our hearts, right here inside us.

We are the light that will shines in the room.

We are the catalyst that will break the walls of the labyrinth.

Lets focus on what we want and make it so.

[sister]

Dear Céline, You have been on my mind almost constantly for the past few days. Thank you for sharing your heart here. I was hoping you would get some relief after the past whirlwind week in your professional life. Maybe there are some things that will subside now. I am hopeful. There is a good lesson in your Butterfly Lady story, one that my granny always told me when things got difficult, and that is change is hard. Think of what a butterfly endures during the process of chrysalis. In that shell the caterpillar's structure is completely broken down and rearranged. It seems like it would have to be a painful transformation, the complete metamorphosis from pupa to butterfly. I am new to Avalon, and I like it here. I don't know what it was before. I suppose you can't miss something if you didn't already have it. You are right about the MO of agents provocateurs; they divide and conquer. Maybe if we can see it and identify it, it can be nipped in the bud. I will continue to keep you and all of Avalon in my thoughts, Céline. I will never forget who I am. Take care and God Bless.

[Celine]

Yes Chaos.

i am no stranger to that heart..

and i clearly see the "logic" in chaos ( i know that is an oxymoron kinda).

and the nessecity of chaos.

Glad your here for the ride WH

[Midnight Rambler]

Dear Whithaze,

I hope you are all-right. Chaos is great, it is about how the game is being played IMO. That is possibly the key how to wrinkle out the creases.

One can ask themselves am I playing fair.

[jorr lundstrom]

Volcanos erupt, heavy rain washes the earth.

Tremendous storms wips all living.

Most stiff oaks survives, all willows bends and prosper.

Avalon is changing, yet forever the same.:kiss:

[Whitehaze]

Yes Chaos.

i am no stranger to that heart..

and i clearly see the "logic" in chaos ( i know that is an oxymoron kinda).

and the nessecity of chaos.

Glad your here for the ride WH


I am honored to be here, and watch how this ride smooths out very shortly. I see it happening, people are communicating here in the forums, chat and privately. And do think they are beginning to communitcate with themselves.

[Celine]

Dear Céline, You have been on my mind almost constantly for the past few days. Thank you for sharing your heart here. I was hoping you would get some relief after the past whirlwind week in your professional life. Maybe there are some things that will subside now. I am hopeful. There is a good lesson in your Butterfly Lady story, one that my granny always told me when things got difficult, and that is change is hard. Think of what a butterfly endures during the process of chrysalis. In that shell the caterpillar's structure is completely broken down and rearranged. It seems like it would have to be a painful transformation, the complete metamorphosis from pupa to butterfly. I am new to Avalon, and I like it here. I don't know what it was before. I suppose you can't miss something if you didn't already have it. You are right about the MO of agents provocateurs; they divide and conquer. Maybe if we can see it and identify it, it can be nipped in the bud. I will continue to keep you and all of Avalon in my thoughts, Céline. I will never forget who I am. Take care and God Bless.

Thank you Sister of Avalon.

lol

[777]

Wisdom and love exudes from every one of your posts. Even if assailed or attacked you carry with you the grace to disarm lovingly.

You're a shining example of what many of us could be and will be!
:luv:

[finally there!!!]

hello fellow avalonians hope you's are are smiling!!

sorry for putting this up but i find it hard to put into words how i feel at times..
and i cant remember how to put the vid up lol

love and respect

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=214cQIpcCIc

[jackovesk]

Dear Avalon,

Lately...the melody has changed. Each time I come to read at the forum, my heart breaks. The feel of some hearts have changed and have added disruptions to the base line.

I love you Avalon and I feel I am slowly watching you disassemble. The presence of obvious agents provocateurs has succeeded in creating division and strife.

It is not the passionate screams of anger that worry me...but the whispers of deceit.

The false hope and empty promises are festering, and I fear for your health.

Avalon, I weep for you

Many have tried to offer me solace. Some use logic others trickery. Mind games do not work on a loving heart. I will not let you down Avalon.

I love you.

You are strong. You are heard. The world will know who you are.

This is the End Game.

Bring your fears, your anger, your mind games Throw them in the fire. You no longer need those weapons.

I will fight for you Avalon. Here or anywhere you show your heart.

All I ask...

Do not forget who you are

Be well,
love Celine

Hi Celine,

Forgive me, but can you be more specific as to what has changed so much?

Does it have something to do with a particular thread or post?

Kind Regards,
Jack

[Celine]

Wisdom and love exudes from every one of your posts. Even if assailed or attacked you carry with you the grace to disarm lovingly.

You're a shining example of what many of us could be and will be!
:luv:

I am the reflection of the people that love me.

Thank you for...seeing me

[Brodie75]

Celine your words inspire me. You leave an imprint of love in all that you say.
I am only new to Avalon as a member but have been following for a while.
I notice that love is always quick to follow conflict in the forum and i have faith that love will win the day:angel:

[Celine]

Jack...

The fighting..the bitching...the "back room talking"...

Bans... insults... ignorance...

None of this brought us anywhere closer to our goals IMO...though i could be worng..

it is why i am here..to learn

[Lifesong]

Some of our other selves are starving to death.

Some are trafficked and held prisoner.

Some of our other-selves are at war, trying to kill one another.

Some are children, being abused and violated in unspeakable ways.

This must create discord in our being.

So we must help ourselves.


Thank you, Celine. Well done then, I get it. :wave:

[elysian]

Thank you, Love you for this refreshing post Céline.

I would like to add and suggest a few guiding principles that I believe will help when considering posting:

Is it true?
Is it kind?
Is it necessary?

:love:

[Maria Stade]

Dear Avalon,

My heart to yours on this beautiful day and I hope this letter finds you well. I have a few concerns that have been plaguing my heart that I hope you may help in clearing it up.

First of all please allow me a moment to indulge in my love for you. A community of varied hearts, all include flaws, strengths and idiosyncrasies. I feel each heart, each individual heart print.

It creates an orchestra of love. I want to thank each one for allowing me to join in this song.

Lately...the melody has changed. Each time I come to read at the forum, my heart breaks. The feel of some hearts have changed and have added disruptions to the base line.

I love you Avalon and I feel I am slowly watching you disassemble. The presence of obvious agents provocateurs has succeeded in creating division and strife.

It is not the passionate screams of anger that worry me...but the whispers of deceit.

The false hope and empty promises are festering, and I fear for your health.

Avalon, I weep for you

Many have tried to offer me solace. Some use logic others trickery. Mind games do not work on a loving heart. I will not let you down Avalon.

I love you.

You are strong. You are heard. The world will know who you are.

This is the End Game.

Bring your fears, your anger, your mind games Throw them in the fire. You no longer need those weapons.

I will fight for you Avalon. Here or anywhere you show your heart.

All I ask...

Do not forget who you are

Be well,
love Celine

Thank you dear Celine.

Do not cry for this is non acceptance, of what is !
You need to accept others as they are !

This is the acceptance of SELF in another way.

We all like to see a world of Love and abundance.

To get, there the mirror needs to be seen. The mirror is the one giving you the feeling.

Here has not been created any division, the division is inside you and every one that feels that this has happened.
The strife is inside and is the resistance to be transformed.

If there is something disassemble that can be very fruitful to come to the core of what is.

False hope is self created, and is to put the creator outside one self ! See the one creating this.

Most pain and sicknesses is made by oneself, keeping this feelings of false self made illusions in fear or anger by the mind !

If a person is acting out anger and what ever, You all must know this is coming from inside that person, and what you feel is something not healed in you !
That is why you react or act on it !

Instead of cursing the person who is showing this to you, You should send that person all love for showing you what is unhealed in both of you !

Dont kill the messenger !

All my LOVE to all of you !

[000]

Dear Céline, You have been on my mind almost constantly for the past few days. Thank you for sharing your heart here. I was hoping you would get some relief after the past whirlwind week in your professional life. Maybe there are some things that will subside now. I am hopeful. There is a good lesson in your Butterfly Lady story, one that my granny always told me when things got difficult, and that is change is hard. Think of what a butterfly endures during the process of chrysalis. In that shell the caterpillar's structure is completely broken down and rearranged. It seems like it would have to be a painful transformation, the complete metamorphosis from pupa to butterfly. I am new to Avalon, and I like it here. I don't know what it was before. I suppose you can't miss something if you didn't already have it. You are right about the MO of agents provocateurs; they divide and conquer. Maybe if we can see it and identify it, it can be nipped in the bud. I will continue to keep you and all of Avalon in my thoughts, Céline. I will never forget who I am. Take care and God Bless.

http://i55.tinypic.com/immf42.jpg

Avalon's collective metamorphosis is a reflection of the metamorphosis of which all individual members are going through :)

The cells of the caterpillar rearrange and transform themselves to serve new functions in butterfly form.

[bluestflame]

a microcosm of the collective

[jackovesk]

Jack...

The fighting..the bitching...the "back room talking"...

Bans... insults... ignorance...

None of this brought us anywhere closer to our goals IMO...though i could be worng..

it is why i am here..to learn

Thanks for clearing that up Celine, much appreciated!

I was not aware it had got so bad...

[Lifesong]

Thank you, Love you for this refreshing post Céline.

I would like to add and suggest a few guiding principles that I believe will help when considering posting:

Is it true?
Is it kind?
Is it necessary?

:love:

And...
Is it fact or opinion, and is it clearly stated as such?

[Luke]

None of this brought us anywhere closer to our goals IMO...though i could be wrong..
Yes. And this would be right time to think what our goals are. Who we are.

it is why i am here..to learn
So am I, and glad to have such distinguished companions.

[Brodie75]

Celine we create our own reality
If we look for love we will find it
If we look for hate we will find it.
You have changed the feel of the forum by your beautiful heartfelt words
Your love will resonate throughout
It already has
Others will follow
Believe it
:humble::humble::humble:

[The One]

Remember my Avalon friends you can conquer almost any fear if you will only make up your mind to do so. For remember, fear doesn't exist anywhere except in the mind. Let’s not forget who we are and why we are here. In everyone's life, at some time, our inner fire goes out. It is then burst into flames by an encounter with another human being. We should all be thankful for those people who rekindle the inner spirit.

We can't help everyone, but everyone can help someone

[Burke]

“Living systems are never in equilibrium. They are inherently unstable. They may seem stable, but they’re not. Everything is moving and changing. In a sense, everything is on the edge of collapse” - Michael Crichton (Jurassic Park p. 246) - [Arnold, arguing that instability is a sign of a healthy system.]


Unless the living system is holographic in nature, each a reflection of the whole and in unity with itself

:luv:

[rhythm]

Its regretfull that a grudge has beed held against me for some time here at AV1
my private mail has been ignored by several ..mods and addmin
i was am very supprised by that ... seems real rude .. my threads are all in
Of topic no reason given for the change over .. even when i why asked ...and could they be moved back?
i prefer to be told the truth as silence is a sory way out i feel ...and not very grown up .
When the leaders dont set a very good example it will set a poor president ..
I may not be perfect ... but then who is ...and then again we all are ;)
we can still communicate ... i guess it was to do with the stars fiasco???.....:gossip:

[greybeard]

Strange thing is that the democracies that are USA and GB were both founded out of Civil War.

This Avalon had come through some very difficult days in its transition from the original Bill and Kerry Avalon.
The membership there was twice the size of present Avalon.
Its still there to view.

Out of that upheaval was formed Kerry's place, Bills place, and the Mists of Avalon, I go there as well occasionally to see old friends.

So we have had an influx of an enormous amount of people who came here for one thing, they are attracted to hear what Charles has to say.

We now have a settling in period of yet another new Avalon, it cant be the same because of the sheer volume of new members.

The great majority of new members have done exceedingly well, great hope for the future.

All must show patience and realize we are going through birth pains yet again here.

No birth without consummated love.

Chris

[greybeard]

Its regretfull that a grudge has beed held against me for some time here at AV1
my private mail has been ignored by several ..mods and addmin
i was am very supprised by that ... seems real rude .. my threads are all in
Of topic no reason given for the change over .. even when i why asked ...and could they be moved back?
i prefer to be told the truth as silence is a sory way out i feel ...and not very grown up .
When the leaders dont set a very good example it will set a poor president ..
I may not be perfect ... but then who is ...and then again we all are ;)
we can still communicate ... i guess it was to do with the stars fiasco???.....:gossip:

Rhythm
my friend of old.
Yes because I have expressed my concerns with tough love some of my PMs were ignored too.

However the Mods have a very difficult job at the moment vetting this massive influx, on going, of new members.
My heart goes out to them.
Interestingly I was asked to be a mod on several occasions, I was glad I dident.
There would be no time to post.

The mods were great posters pre mod and now dont have the time to post but rarely, I miss their balanced contribution but accept that they are doing a much needed difficult job with love.

All will be well rhythm hang on in there.

Chris

[rhythm]

Many old members ... just had enough of the nonsense and to be honest it all starts to feel like ground hog day ....Av 1 is gone and everything has to change ... letting go ah!!!:mmph:
to heady and wordy and ego filled game playing ego cr-p...wel there are a few gems here ..
and then thats just the way it is so there are other places to be things to do
if it aint what i want like ..or resonate with i can take a walk ...
its only a web site ... and i do have a life :nod:
i still feel the love in me heart tho ... :nod:
So Celine stop and smell the roses ;)
ps thanks Greybeard ...:hippie:

[Hawkwind]

I too have cried, beloved

through the years that darkness spread.

So long, so hard that journey

each new despair deeper than the last.

Shipwrecked and broken I found these shores

my family and home at last.

Doubt not the tide has turned, beloved.

Though the sun has not yet risen,

the darkest hour has passed.

Let us greet the dawn together

my sisters, my brothers, my friends

and dance until the tears of sorrow

are remembered in each new tear of joy.

[aikya]

I posted this on another thread earlier, perhaps I should have posted it here.



It seemed as though there was a chance
An opportunity to join in something good
To help.

With heart and hope
And willing to give all
I entered the space on tip-toe,
And I listened.

Hours spent in a haze of sound
As cyclones of words spilled into form.
Drowning the silence…and thought.

Waiting, hoping, stepping through
Riddles and mysteries, stories,
Answers promised.
The unheard hanging from invisible threads
Out of reach.

What?

One more turn of the kaleidoscope of deceit?

We know they play football with our hearts,
Our souls, our love,
The very best in us. For fun.

Compelled by care I have to say,
‘Take care, take care, dear brothers, sisters,’
From love,
And stay till care begins.

And then step back,
The quiet pain and hope
Of Everyman,
Held tenderly still
in my heart.

Not here? Not today?
Who knows?
But one step closer yet.

For in our Soul, the tide has turned.
The game is on.
We will be free
And dance, and dance
In golden light,
In brightest life,
The Dance of our Divinity.

[greybeard]

Thanks Aikya
That is beautiful and true of many here.
Truth needs no fanfare, quietly expressed is enough.
Chris

[Celine]

To those who have something negative to say about someone or something. Say it publically in your post, not behind someones back or say nothing at all!


I recommend that as well...though some issues should be dealt with in PVT... talking behind peoples back is never a good thing ... TALK IN THE OPEN.

NO CLOAKS NO DAGGERS


[I]
Unless the living system is holographic in nature, each a reflection of the whole and in unity with itself



Not One...but All.


Its regretfull that a grudge has beed held against me for some time here at AV1
my private mail has been ignored by several ..mods and addmin
i was am very supprised by that ... seems real rude .. my threads are all in
Of topic no reason given for the change over .. even when i why asked ...and could they be moved back?
i prefer to be told the truth as silence is a sory way out i feel ...and not very grown up .
When the leaders dont set a very good example it will set a poor president ..
I may not be perfect ... but then who is ...and then again we all are ;)
we can still communicate ... i guess it was to do with the stars fiasco???.....:gossip:

Doubt it was the star thing ... And i have no idea why the MODS dont answer you. Moving your threads and not informing or responding to questions does seem rude to me, but I doubt it was intentional. BTW..nice to see you posting again. Avalons heart has missed you.




The mods were great posters pre mod and now dont have the time to post but rarely, I miss their balanced contribution but accept that they are doing a much needed difficult job with love.

All will be well rhythm hang on in there.

Chris

YES !!!!!! I agree completly.. MODS stop posting once they take on the responsibilities of being MODS.

I miss their words.



So Celine stop and smell the roses ;)


I spent the week sublimely surrounded my thousands of roses... the scent is intoxicating. My heart, was here though.



Thank you all ...your advice, care and love has taught me much.

Our voices need to be heard.

Speak whats in our hearts

Listen with our minds.

Thank you.

[sepia]

------

* S I G H *

Certainly a well-intentioned thread, but just a little heavy for my taste today.

May I suggest a short break?


Let's do a little Yoga-Asana.


The pose is simple and is called The Tree:


You stand one foot, and the other foot rests on the inner thigh of the opposite leg.
The hands are stretched high above the head and touch each other.
Your eyes are open and are focused on the horizon - faaaaaar out theeeeeeere ------------->


Breathe - and keep the balance.

Do you feel the benefit? - Do you realise that you have just left the emotional swamp, or the sea of tears ore the ocean of feelings behind?

Your Mind and your Consciousness are able to be clear and fresh like an early spring morning.

Smell it. Enjoy :)

[Celine]

I am sorry that my emotional plea was to much for you taste.

My intent was purely to share and to learn.

Which I have both done.

Thank you for The moment with The Tree.

A great pose for bringing balance.

[sandy]

Thank you Celine for this thread:)

I'm finding more loving and thoughtful posts these days. Avalons everywhere are working to hear from the heart before analyzing or assessing with the mind and I believe we are coming back to the Heart. Why, because we are feeling each others Heart and beginning to understand the immensity of what is happening here in the Avalon Community.

May blessings be bestowed to all this wondrous day that we have been so generously given by Creation. Lets continue to Create, Create, Create Love!

[Charlie Pecos]

My father in law committed suicide in 2009. I found him. We were close. He was a flawed person as we all are, he trusted few, but he had the ability to express ALOT of love. If you were fortunate to be invited into his small world, you were treated like a king.

At the memorial service, one of his friends made this statement:

"His imperfections were what made him perfect, he was a perfect friend"

What a profound statement.

Our imperfections ARE what make us perfect!

Everything is as it should be

[Icecold]

Its regretfull that a grudge has beed held against me for some time here at AV1
my private mail has been ignored by several ..mods and addmin
i was am very supprised by that ... seems real rude .. my threads are all in
Of topic no reason given for the change over .. even when i why asked ...and could they be moved back?
i prefer to be told the truth as silence is a sory way out i feel ...and not very grown up .
When the leaders dont set a very good example it will set a poor president ..
I may not be perfect ... but then who is ...and then again we all are ;)
we can still communicate ... i guess it was to do with the stars fiasco???.....:gossip:

Sad Story rhythm. Gentleness and kindness goes a long way to relieving bitterness.

[yiolas]

Hi Celine, I absolutely understand what your saying. I've thought the same things myself at times during these last few weeks. The strong foundations of Avalon have dealt in the past with the passing protagonists, it will do the same again. As for the influx of new voices and tunes, I believe that we should open our hearts up even more so as to include them. In fact we should prepare for even more growing numbers of awakened humans to join our ranks.

[Calz]

Strange thing is that the democracies that are USA and GB were both founded out of Civil War.

This Avalon had come through some very difficult days in its transition from the original Bill and Kerry Avalon.
The membership there was twice the size of present Avalon.
Its still there to view.

Out of that upheaval was formed Kerry's place, Bills place, and the Mists of Avalon, I go there as well occasionally to see old friends.

So we have had an influx of an enormous amount of people who came here for one thing, they are attracted to hear what Charles has to say.

We now have a settling in period of yet another new Avalon, it cant be the same because of the sheer volume of new members.

The great majority of new members have done exceedingly well, great hope for the future.

All must show patience and realize we are going through birth pains yet again here.

No birth without consummated love.

Chris



Its regretfull that a grudge has beed held against me for some time here at AV1
my private mail has been ignored by several ..mods and addmin
i was am very supprised by that ... seems real rude .. my threads are all in
Of topic no reason given for the change over .. even when i why asked ...and could they be moved back?
i prefer to be told the truth as silence is a sory way out i feel ...and not very grown up .
When the leaders dont set a very good example it will set a poor president ..
I may not be perfect ... but then who is ...and then again we all are ;)
we can still communicate ... i guess it was to do with the stars fiasco???.....:gossip:

Rhythm
my friend of old.
Yes because I have expressed my concerns with tough love some of my PMs were ignored too.

However the Mods have a very difficult job at the moment vetting this massive influx, on going, of new members.
My heart goes out to them.
Interestingly I was asked to be a mod on several occasions, I was glad I dident.
There would be no time to post.

The mods were great posters pre mod and now dont have the time to post but rarely, I miss their balanced contribution but accept that they are doing a much needed difficult job with love.

All will be well rhythm hang on in there.

Chris


Many old members ... just had enough of the nonsense and to be honest it all starts to feel like ground hog day ....Av 1 is gone and everything has to change ... letting go ah!!!:mmph:
to heady and wordy and ego filled game playing ego cr-p...wel there are a few gems here ..
and then thats just the way it is so there are other places to be things to do
if it aint what i want like ..or resonate with i can take a walk ...
its only a web site ... and i do have a life :nod:
i still feel the love in me heart tho ... :nod:
So Celine stop and smell the roses ;)
ps thanks Greybeard ...:hippie:

Please forgive me for pulling so much text but it is all relavent. Normally I try to keep things short and simple but some seem to think that lacks depth.

I have made several efforts to post something similar before.

I have been completely onboard camelot (then later avalon) ever since wilcock came on board.

I was a member of PA1 but doubt if I posted (was looking for regional "ground crew" information).

I have been casually "lurking" ever since.

You "old timers" are like old friends to me even though you have no idea who I am.

No disrepect ... I feel your pain ... I have witnessed the frustration with the changes since the Charles material has surfaced.

I did *not* become a member due to Charles ... at least directly.

When the server got bogged down and threads became restricted to "members" I had to come out of "the shadows". Yep ... my lurking skills must not have been too sharp to not have noticed such restricions before.

Anyway ... don't want to drag on ... I think I am not the only one to have gone through a similar process. I think the "old timers" don't realize just how many of us "newbies" have been here all along???

greybeard ... in a direct response to one of your posts I offered you "a hundred of thank yous but I would not know where to start".

You did not respond. Perhaps you missed it ... not important. Ego lesson no doubt. I bring it up only due to your message about "missed" PMs by the mods.

Hard to keep up with so many threads.

I have had ZERO disrespectful posts directed at me and I am most grateful.

That said ... it hurts to see so many of the "old timers" taking shots at the "newbies".

Pulling this back to topic ... all things change.

The changes we will be experiencing in the near future will diminish any changes here in Avalon. There have always been changes ... there will always be changes. The Universe is not static ... damn boring if it was.

I expect any excess membership due to Charles material will diminish once his role does. Try to appreciate the "leftover" new membership who will happily try to absorb the wisdom that the "oldtimers" have graciously shared all along.

I am not an elected voice of the newbies ... I speak from my heart.

There have been some truly remarkably heart-wrenching stories shared here lately from many. This pales in comparison ... but I hope for more understanding that we all are members of the same team. Avalonians. We all are members of the same team that need to understand the oneness of all humanity here at this time??? If we cannot understand and accept each other here in this forum how can we possibly move forward to understand and accept our global brothers and sisters?

Correct me if I am wrong.

Blessings.

[bashi]

As all the paths are well calculated and foreseen, it is only the unexpected, the uncalculated that can open a door to a new path. The imbalance is nothing than a temporary movement to adjust into new balance.
Uncomfortness exists only as long as the new door isn’t opened.

[Celine]

we all are members of the same team. Avalonians



There are some...here...that have forgotten this fact....

[Burke]

[MOD hat off]

Not that I am making excuses for missed PMs and the like, but just recently I learned that an important PM I sent to someone near the end of last year got "lost in the mail"

I would have never known had I not asked if I upset them in some way with my last response; this happened just a few days ago

So I figured I would mention this since others are reporting similar experiences and suggest following up on communication when you feel something is wrong

Burke

[Charlie Pecos]

Cal:

I have been casually "lurking" ever since.

You "old timers" are like old friends to me even though you have no idea who I am.

No disrepect ... I feel your pain ... I have witnessed the frustration with the changes since the Charles material has surfaced.

I did *not* become a member due to Charles ... at least directly.

When the server got bogged down and threads became restricted to "members" I had to come out of "the shadows". Yep ... my lurking skills must not have been too sharp to not have noticed such restricions before.

Anyway ... don't want to drag on ... I think I am not the only one to have gone through a similar process. I think the "old timers" don't realize just how many of us "newbies" have been here all along???



Yup, same here brother. I was in the shadows since PC.

[Shezbeth]

it hurts to see so many of the "old timers" taking shots at the "newbies".

I agree with the spirit of this statement, but not the wording. I have found many cases where the "shots" amount to justified and constructive criticism aimed at those who take liberties that they should not. That they have agreed to not. I can cite examples in this thread, but that's not what this thread is about.

On the other hand, there is alot of criticism that is NOT constructive, and that too should be curtailed.

My point is there is a difference between criticism and negativity. And indeed, IMO both have their time and place. There are a number of behaviors that WE ALL AGREED NOT TO DO in the Rules and Regulations. I would suggest we ALL be suspended and/or required to re-read them.

[Calz]

Thank you ... words are often hard to agree upon, especially across global boundaries and using only one language?

My point is to bring unity.

Nothing more complex than that.

[greybeard]

Dear Calz_Avaretard
Re your post 56
I missed your thanks I am very sorry.
There have been a lot of challenges, some very good friends have left, some new and old homeless in real life.
In my own life Rosaline my wife has had to apply for a visa to continue her stay in UK even though we have lived together for two years pre marriage.
Its a crazy world.
There has also been over 100 pms this last month which I have been happy to see to.
Being dyslexic makes it harder, I cant write screeds of text.
But I do appreciate every thanks every word of appreciation, that keeps me pouring oil on trouble water and there was a lo of it.
Strangely since Charles quietened down so have the rest.
Sorry one again my friend and the points you make are very valid

Chris

[Celine]

The language of flowers

This very traditional bouquet speaks of Togetherness, (Red and white signifies unity). Roses talk of love, and baby's breath represents pure heart and sincerity.

My gift to all of you..

from my heart to yours...

http://www.syriagiftshop.com/images/uploads/flor78.jpg

[bodixa]

------



Let's do a little Yoga-Asana.


The pose is simple and is called The Tree:


You stand one foot, and the other foot rests on the inner thigh of the opposite leg.
The hands are stretched high above the head and touch each other.
Your eyes are open and are focused on the horizon - faaaaaar out theeeeeeere ------------->


Breathe - and keep the balance.


Your Mind and your Consciousness are able to be clear and fresh like an early spring morning.

Smell it. Enjoy :)

Tried that. Fell over.

:)

[firstlook]

The presence of obvious agents provocateurs has succeeded in creating division and strife.

It is not the passionate screams of anger that worry me...but the whispers of deceit.

The false hope and empty promises are festering, and I fear for your health.

Céline,

I think your playing into the hierarchal syndrome. This creates Divide between those your group deems "Heartfelt" and those who try to seek balance by communicating with those not looking for their Heart.

Why communicate to these people?

Because Sometimes a person finds his or her destiny on the road they took to avoid it.

Love those who cannot express love themselves.

Peace :)

[Calz]

Strange thing is that the democracies that are USA and GB were both founded out of Civil War.

This Avalon had come through some very difficult days in its transition from the original Bill and Kerry Avalon.
The membership there was twice the size of present Avalon.
Its still there to view.

Out of that upheaval was formed Kerry's place, Bills place, and the Mists of Avalon, I go there as well occasionally to see old friends.

So we have had an influx of an enormous amount of people who came here for one thing, they are attracted to hear what Charles has to say.

We now have a settling in period of yet another new Avalon, it cant be the same because of the sheer volume of new members.

The great majority of new members have done exceedingly well, great hope for the future.

All must show patience and realize we are going through birth pains yet again here.

No birth without consummated love.

Chris



Its regretfull that a grudge has beed held against me for some time here at AV1
my private mail has been ignored by several ..mods and addmin
i was am very supprised by that ... seems real rude .. my threads are all in
Of topic no reason given for the change over .. even when i why asked ...and could they be moved back?
i prefer to be told the truth as silence is a sory way out i feel ...and not very grown up .
When the leaders dont set a very good example it will set a poor president ..
I may not be perfect ... but then who is ...and then again we all are ;)
we can still communicate ... i guess it was to do with the stars fiasco???.....:gossip:

Rhythm
my friend of old.
Yes because I have expressed my concerns with tough love some of my PMs were ignored too.

However the Mods have a very difficult job at the moment vetting this massive influx, on going, of new members.
My heart goes out to them.
Interestingly I was asked to be a mod on several occasions, I was glad I dident.
There would be no time to post.

The mods were great posters pre mod and now dont have the time to post but rarely, I miss their balanced contribution but accept that they are doing a much needed difficult job with love.

All will be well rhythm hang on in there.

Chris


Many old members ... just had enough of the nonsense and to be honest it all starts to feel like ground hog day ....Av 1 is gone and everything has to change ... letting go ah!!!:mmph:
to heady and wordy and ego filled game playing ego cr-p...wel there are a few gems here ..
and then thats just the way it is so there are other places to be things to do
if it aint what i want like ..or resonate with i can take a walk ...
its only a web site ... and i do have a life :nod:
i still feel the love in me heart tho ... :nod:
So Celine stop and smell the roses ;)
ps thanks Greybeard ...:hippie:


Dear Calz_Avaretard
Re your post 56
I missed your thanks I am very sorry.
There have been a lot of challenges, some very good friends have left, some new and old homeless in real life.
In my own life Rosaline my wife has had to apply for a visa to continue her stay in UK even though we have lived together for two years pre marriage.
Its a crazy world.
There has also been over 100 pms this last month which I have been happy to see to.
Being dyslexic makes it harder, I cant write screeds of text.
But I do appreciate every thanks every word of appreciation, that keeps me pouring oil on trouble water and there was a lo of it.
Strangely since Charles quietened down so have the rest.
Sorry one again my friend and the points you make are very valid

Chris

Thank you most sincerely.

I will be joining the ego thread beyond "lurkership" as soon as time permits.

tolle, hawkins, course in miracles ... yep ... been there but could use guidance.

You, and many others here, have my highest respect.

BTW - please extend a "one day belated Happy Birthday" to "heart2heart".

I considered PMing him but perhaps it would be best coming from you?

[Franny]

Yup, same here brother. I was in the shadows since PC.

True for many it seems. I was around when the first interview was made and a member of the 1st forum. Started to want to get back in Nov or Dec, esp when the 4-way interview was done in Dec which I signed up for. Thought then Iʻd head over to join first of the year. I recall many of the present older members on the old forum but few if any will remember me as I posted very little.

I try to be respectful of other members and understand that the influx of new members can be unsettling. As usual, some will drift away and others will stay. Some are disruptive and other try to fit in.

In the end, it will all settle down and a new cohesive group will emerge.

Everything you loose gives you a little more space for something new.

[firstlook]

The language of flowers

This very traditional bouquet speaks of Togetherness, (Red and white signifies unity). Roses talk of love, and baby's breath represents pure heart and sincerity.

My gift to all of you..

from my heart to yours...

http://www.syriagiftshop.com/images/uploads/flor78.jpg

My heart for those like you Celine and all on this forum is like the beach. It be washed over now and again, but my ability to create more love is where my power and sustainable emotions rest.

http://images2.layoutsparks.com/1/170943/Young-Love-at-Beach.jpg

[NinjaPhil]

Hey Celine - this one's for you :)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ik6dqpTwH5g

[Celine]

*celine smiles*

thank you

[Sowelu]

[QUOTE=jackovesk;140816]


To those who have something negative to say about someone or something. Say it publically in your post, not behind someones back or say nothing at all!


I recommend that as well...though some issues should be dealt with in PVT... talking behind peoples back is never a good thing ... TALK IN THE OPEN.

NO CLOAKS NO DAGGERS


Heya Celine<3,

i do agree that people need to be open with each other,
I admit for myself there have been a few that tried my patience with their "superiority issues"
and it upsets me when people verbally attack charles for not giving enough info or being vague.
(Those who say the least have the most to say)
but I always leave the thread if it goes past the debating stage.
Some people are really sensitive and will argue even if there's nothing to argue about.

I personally feel that those who have been reduced to outright insulting one another over difference in opinion, do not belong here at all, and should be banned permenantly. (with a few warnings of course)

I also feel those who don't like or believe atticus should stay in the general threads instead of constantly posting angry or "calling out" threads, because the focus is not on them or their topics.

There are way too many of those popping up anytime he's gone for a day, or says something that upsets someone. He is a person too and doesn't deserve to be attacked either.
That, to me seems one of the more counterproductive things to what we're trying to figure out here.

It's okay to not believe but one can do so without accusing him of being "a liar, a crazy, a psychological experimenter, our enemy, a womanizer" and all the other theories I've seen floating around the thread.

Some people are really impressionable, and while you may just be expressing your personal anger, you may be outright convincing others to dislike him based on your own feelings.

Debating opinions is healthy and helps us to reach new conclusions but if people are name calling or picking on eachother in a vicious way they can either hash it out in pm or leave.
That kind of thing is immature and unecessary.

Many of us have been verbally attacked for our different opinions
That doesn't have to happen.
People NEED to accept that what is true and right for them isn't always true and right for that other "piece" of them (other person.)
Instead of saying "NO! YOUR WRONG BECAUSE" why not "HMM, never thought of it that way how did you reach this conclusion?"

For some, getting over their EGO will be a hard part. To them i say try this...
step back and look at yourself in a third person point of view and imagine for a moment that we all just hold a single puzzle piece. We will never put it all together if we all think of ourselves as the one Key to solving it.

We need to hypothesise and share
Beauty in Diversity

I say enough with special EYES and talks of who the 18 Should be,
lets be real and learn to get along.
We have been in the storming stage for a month now.
and we are supposed to be the Evolving humans!:victory:

[Celine]

Great post Sowelu...

The accusations have flown around much lately.

I myself have shared with Charles that my faith and trust has oscillated back and forth...and this causes my worry..

he always says not to worry...that int he end I will know what is right.

This might sound...far out there for some...

but..

Charles has NEVER lost faith in me.

[NinjaPhil]

Celine, there is a process happening here, some people have different response mechanisms and some people don't really understand what is happening here. As a community though we're evolving and quickly and whilst there are some short term pains in the form of arguments, spam, negativity I eight hundred and twenty twelve percent believe that things are going to work out for the best.

You have my faith and trust and I hope you extend the same to me, because I am you and what I see is me.

Keep being amazing and Avalon will thrive.

[mrmalco]

I've lost track on all this - too naive to catch what has been the problem! But I'm glad people seem happier. I don't get this thing about back-conversations with Charles. I've been too busy to read everything. Is there a big group, small group, just one or two? It's OK by me whatever but has this been a cause of friction?
If it's too long a story - just ignore me.
Cheers to all.

[DianeKJ]

Celine, thank you for sharing your feelings here. It was lovely for me to read this, and timely as I have felt a lot of the same vibes. Being new to the forum, I don't really know what is the normal flow here, but being emphathic, I have been feeling very chaotic and even angry at times. It is certainly a wild ride, but I want to see it through to then end. That being said, there are times where we just have to step away from the computer. For you, I imagine the intoxicating smell of flowers is your grounding, your centering. For me it's walking in the trees :)
Namaste, I do love this forum and glad I became a member, even though it can be rough around the edges at times. There are sooo many lovely souls here too!
-Diane

[astrid]

Hi Celine and all.

I woke up at 5am, to find this post.
Being up at this time is odd for me.
i'm one of those night people that rarely see the sun come up.
But everything is changing.

As i sit here writing, the sun is rising in a glorious pink hue,
this part of the day im now embracing.

Around 4 months ago, i had a tarot reading, my first one actually.
I was feeling insecure about the future. Personally i had just come out of a major depression
and was facing a massive cleanup of things i had not been able to face .
I was not feeling as though i had the right mindset to move through these rough waters,
and i was seeking some guidance.

David was the readers name, we had never met me before, he knew nothing about me.
I had a healthy mix of scepticism and openness, as i often do with such things.

One big theme that came out of this reading was to get ready for change, and lots of it.
Adventure, travel, lots and lots of change.
The issues that were plaguing me, would be resolved,
in fact i had the whole world in my hands it was all just up to me what i decided to do with it.
I was reminded also of how strong my will was,
something i had forgotten in my moments of crisis.

I left feeling happy, hopeful and positive, but also
a part of me was wondering if that was just part of his job as a reader,
so his clients would return, being the cynic that i am...

But...since that time, all has rolled out exactly as was shown.
Now, I was never a fan alot of change, some was ok, but too much would often rattle me.

But i was more prepared for this, as i have been making space in my life for all these shifts.
If need to sleep, i sleep, if i'm feeling overwhelmed, i find ways to process excess energy and emotion.
and being mindful that this is my process, watching that i don't project what i'm going through on others.

It's been useful to become more an observer,
allowing things to flow through and around me.
Rather than getting too attached to the content.

Now i'm seeing the mirco being reflected in the marco,
of course all things being holigraphic, its hardly surprising.
Everywhere i see so much changing.
People are being challenged on all levels, many are trying to hold
on to what they once knew to be true, and comfortable.
But change is not known to be comfortable..

I'm finding that the details aren't all that important, but the process is.
One of the challenges is to not get too stuck in the emotional soup that is being drawn out of us all at this time.

Not taking things personally is crucial, for the most part people have good intent ,
but they may not understand what is happening,
and may not be ready to shift into the new paradigm,
where change is the only constant.
(In fact this is one of our biggest advantages, over the battle against all that has been rigid, dogmatic and ritualistic.)

Many are feeling uncomfortable at having to experience old emotions, and resisting letting them go.
Forgiveness is key at this time, but those that are still resisting have a tendency to project onto others.
I have been witnessing here and elsewhere, a trend of people seeking out conflict as an excuse to vent,
to release all this inner build up.
And of course being abusive, disrespectful and not honoring another's space is not ok,
and setting boundaries often is required.

But also patience empathy and understanding goes along way to
making sure we will all cross over the line together.


Blessings to all,

Astrid

[Budaheart]

I am new to this forum, have come with love, honesty, sincerity and sharing in a spirit that honors what I think are the values of Avalon.
But reading again and again that since some time now the forum seems to be dismembering or whatever the older members are experiencing by comparison...makes the "newbies"
feel targeted, sometimes ignored, and I think its rather unfair...been trying to find the "sign off button" from the forum...as these attitudes don´t make me feel welcome...
can a moderator tell me how to sign off?

Love
Barbara

[Celine]

The coming apart of Avalon.. has NOTHING to do with "newbies" or "old timers"


There is no division here... you are ALL the heart of Avalon

[NinjaPhil]

The coming apart of Avalon.. has NOTHING to do with "newbies" or "old timers"


There is no division here... you are ALL the heart of Avalon

I couldn't agree with this any more than I currently do. It's a shame that so much has been thrown in the direction of new people, we have feelings too you know, and a lot of us have great information and opinions that will only help this community grow even further. Change is amazing, and meeting new people is one of the things that make me continually be a better person.

[Bill Ryan]

I am new to this forum, have come with love, honesty, sincerity and sharing in a spirit that honors what I think are the values of Avalon.
But reading again and again that since some time now the forum seems to be dismembering or whatever the older members are experiencing by comparison...makes the "newbies"
feel targeted, sometimes ignored, and I think its rather unfair...been trying to find the "sign off button" from the forum...as these attitudes don´t make me feel welcome...
can a moderator tell me how to sign off?

Love
Barbara

Dear Barbara,

I welcome and embrace all new members. Anyone who mocks the so-called 'newbies' (and what a term of covert prejudice that is!) does not belong here and may leave if they wish. You can carve that in stone.

I've always held that view. You may have missed these posts from myself:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?12713-Healing-meditation-for-Charles&p=113741&viewfull=1#post113741

Addressed to Barry King (SPIRIT WOLF), who should have known better:




There's one 'novice' who at the age of 82 is old enough to be your mother (or mine).

There are other 'novices' who may have had valuable life experiences that you (or I) have not had.

There are more 'novices' who between them are exceptionally well-qualified in all branches of arts and science. They know stuff that you (and I) do not.

Other 'novices' still are young enough to be your children (or mine)... and will benefit from a dignified example, which you are not providing.

One does not have to have been heavily involved in black projects to have an intelligent, perceptive opinion that counts.

Or else it's you who are starting to sound like an elitist.

And http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?12987-Questions-and-Answers-from-Bill-about-the-Charles-material&p=123873&viewfull=1#post123873





i would like to ask the elders of avalon to feel inside and see if new members are touching something inside you..

The Elders of Avalon! (The mods will like that. :) )

Some new members are the highest quality people, who have been drawn here to make great contributions. You have seen some of them here. Others may be yet to come.

This is why I censured Barry King (SPIRIT WOLF), who should have known better, about his criticism of what he called the 'newbies'. I will not have that.

I twice unsubscribed SPIRIT WOLF for his unpleasant, uncharitable views and will certainly do it again if needed. The same goes for anyone else who I find I'm regretting having invited here.

Barbara: you have a very nice energy around you, and I would personally very much like you to stay.

[kinerkid]

I'm new here as well and I'd actually like to say Thank You to the forum. It has allowed me to do some self-examination, bring up emotions and memories that I can now embrace and bless peace upon. And as I allow more peace and love into my own self, I see it being reflected back to me in this thread. So thanks for the splashing and disturbances and thanks for the calm. It all has been beneficial to me.

[Limor Wolf]

Bill,thank you for saying that.this is the true spirit of a holographic community,and by this we shall stand.


"Every person is an entire world"

welcome Barbara !

[Harley]

we all are members of the same team. Avalonians



There are some...here...that have forgotten this fact....

I don't think it's so much that some have forgotten this fact as it is that so many more haven't learned this fact.

Additionally:

Of all those who haven't learned this fact, how many simply don't care?

Nope, I'm not stating negativity. I'm stating fact. This is what I've been observing. This is what I've been witnessing.

[Bosswagon]

this "novice" is committed to help you all, no matter how you criticize, resent, or ignore the contributions of "newbies", no matter how much help you offer me in return. i am not here to win your love and adoration, i am here to help you fight for a place in the future. because it is worth doing. because i believe in you.

will you extend to others the same opportunity? or will you defend your "turf"?

[enoch]

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[The Mad spirtualist]

It is typical of ANY forum!

[Celine]

This is NOT a typical forum IMHO

[Charlie Pecos]

This is NOT a typical forum IMHO

And that is why I joined.

[Fractalius]

One day while walking the dog, Reginald came across a newly planted shrub, all in full bloom.
How amazing he thought, a new shrub in my park, and it is blooming like it has been here some time.
He bent down to read the small sign staked into the ground.
"For a very loved Grandpops, who so loves walking this park"
That is strange, thought Reginald. This bush must have been planted by someone other than the gardener.
It mustn't have been sanctioned, it is an impostor. Obviously a young kid with no sense of etiquette!
All of a sudden the beauty of the park surrounding and the bush in focus paled, and Reggie was inflamed with annoyance.
"How dare someone plant such a thing without permission" he muttered, scratching around at the base and then ripping it out of the garden bed.
"This is typical of the way in which people take so many liberties in this world".
For a while he felt, half pleased with what he had just done, and half embarrassed for destroying such beauty.
"Well it wasn't meant to be there, they should know better, I have been coming to this park for my whole life and no one knows better than me that such things cant simply be done because one feels like it."
The following day, came a phone call. It was Reginald's son. "Hey Pops, we have a little excursion planned today and wish you to accompany us."
Reggie loved going on excursions, a chance to get away and visit other interesting places parks and gardens.
"Sure thing I am ready for an excursion".
An hour later the family turned up. It was all of them! all dressed up in quite flash clothes! Reggie wondered for a minute what was all this about.
"It's a surprise Gramps!" chorused the Grandkids.
Soon they were off, driving through streets and over bridges. It seemed a bit strange to Reginald as it began to appear they were just driving in circles..
Soon they turned into a street that was only a block and a half away from where they had set off from.
"What is going on here Greg?" Reginald asked his son who was driving. "We are just going to my park?"
"Yes dad, shush, you will see".
They pulled up, and there were quite a few more cars than normal, quite flash one. Official looking even.
Out of the cars and walking. They were approaching a small group of people standing in a group. As they neared Reginald's jaw dropped. It was the Mayor, the Park Ranger, the local president of the veterans of war association, and a handful of other respected members of the township.
They smiled a tiny smile each and the park ranger spoke to Greg.
" Mr Reginald Love.." began the Mayor. "As an esteemed long time citizen and friend of this park, the council and the public have voted you to be the first benefactor of our "Plantings of Love" program.. Before us alas we witness a replacement planting of a shrub which was to be dedicated to you by your family today, in front of all present. I will not detail the vandalism found earlier today, as it saddens me such a great event might be soiled by the reckless acts of what is bound to be wayward youths with no respect for our natural parks. Congratulations for an award well deserved"
With that he reached down and pulled up a small piece of velvet cover that rested on a granite plague unseen till now.
Inscribed was the message ""For a very loved Grandpops, who so loves walking this park" and followed by an official recognition and praise by the people of the city for Reginald's long service to the community.

End.

[WhiteStar]

I am new to this forum, have come with love, honesty, sincerity and sharing in a spirit that honors what I think are the values of Avalon.
But reading again and again that since some time now the forum seems to be dismembering or whatever the older members are experiencing by comparison...makes the "newbies"
feel targeted, sometimes ignored, and I think its rather unfair...been trying to find the "sign off button" from the forum...as these attitudes don´t make me feel welcome...
can a moderator tell me how to sign off?

Love
Barbara

Hi Barbara, I apologise if anyone has offended you on 'our' forum.
You and everyone is welcome who comes with good intentions and a desire to share this important time, with consideration for others, as you clearly do.

All sincere hearts welcome you and thank you for expressing your concerns.
Please stay and meet some wonderful people.

[kinnypa]

Hey Celine - this one's for you :)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ik6dqpTwH5g

Thanks for the David Gilmour vid. (It's blocked here in Canada, so I'll just have to listen to my cd version of it.) It just goes to show that the final cut isn't necessarily always the final cut.

[FutureLeFunk]

Sharing heart... heals it.

Vg1jyL3cr60

[kenkyushiryo]

Dear Avalon,

~~~~




before reading the rest of the posts, i have to say ive felt that way too reading some of the posts.

its almost like iago from othello, pouring poison in his ear to manipulate him for his own purposes.

but regardless like everything else a purpose is being served, and all will work out in the end.

Iago (http://www.opensourceshakespeare.org/views/plays/characters/charlines.php?CharID=iago&WorkID=othello). ~

I will in Cassio's lodging lose this napkin,
And let him find it. Trifles light as air
Are to the jealous confirmations strong
As proofs of holy writ: this may do something.
The Moor already changes with my poison:
Dangerous conceits are, in their natures, poisons.
Which at the first are scarce found to distaste,
But with a little act upon the blood.
Burn like the mines of Sulphur. I did say so:
Look, where he comes!

[Celine]

What wonderful music the heart of Avalon is playing!

thank you

[J0urney]

Dearest Celine,
I have taken great comfort in the words of your posts. I will admit that there were quite a few I skipped over in the last weeks. Yours were never one of them. You inspire us with your love and insight.
But I think that Greybeard is right. We are going through yet another birth pain. Unfortunately nothing grows without a force of energy. Sometimes that force is not so kind. I do believe that things will settle down and harmony will come again to Avalon.

I also think there is a lot to with the fact we are all changing. I feel it physically. I have been in pain for weeks now. And now all 10 of my children are starting to feel this same pain. We all chose to be here now for what is coming. We all knew that this would happen. We will remember and deal with these unfortunate side effects.

I have learned much here. I have written much in my journal from the threads in this place. I look forward to reading, learning and writing much more in the future

[bluestflame]

sensativity an asset

[Budaheart]

Thanks for this post Celine and apologies for taking things personally here. This situation has given me some inspiration that will help me grow personally so I am thankful for the chance of receiving this teaching...
What I have learned today or seen with more clarity than ever before is how easily we can take things to the Archetypical world and embody an archetype and suffer it expanding the emotions from the human level to that of the archetype. In doing so, we may have the chance to actually heal a universal archetype but most of the times, what occurs is rather abiding in the emotions that are embeded in the archetype, feeding it and expanding it rather than bringing healing to it.

An example of an archetype we can fall into is the Wounded femenine archetype, or the Wounded Mother Earth archetype...how many of us have cried for her and felt her pain and deep suffering...

Musing,
Love
Barbara

[Isostool]

I have been reading the threads in mostly their entirety... and seriously.. they are not that bad. The arguments were small and sorted out. People who are newer to .. posting in a very mature manner... will learn and grown from being here... one would hope!!!

Persistence.

Patience.

Keeping the vibe 'open' and leading through example. And letting it flow. If anyone is severely in the wrong position... in the way they are behaving.. then it is easy to pull them up on it politely and in a well written way so that it is dealt with. Or dealt with by the mods. Avalon has the strength to pull the new vibrations into itself and come out an awesome being - just how it went in.

As for all the "back room stuff".

Seriously?

Who gives a ****.

Live how you live, love how you love. Be what you are. Integrity shall always be your companion.
If people are complaining, or generally being immature on a thread? Stay in your power... bring the maturity level up through example and writing in wisdom.

There has been plenty of good vibes around keeping it up. Humour abounding.

Yes things change but our wisdom here is strong enough to hold it steady. But not by abandoning the threads!! by being there and acting as ballast.

ADD: What I want to say is: Stay to help guide Avalon as it is changing. To keep it steady. Do not abandon Avalon to the ravages of transformation, but serve the identity of Avalon as a whole by helping it achieve a new level of complexity and maturity.

Holding Avalon's Identity strong makes all that does not fit with it either transform into harmony with it or leave... naturally or through the moderation of this site... it IS a private site you know!!!

It will settle down, just keep it bottom heavy.. you know... grounded.

No matter how old you are or how long you've been here, observe the separation and BE the unity, that we are within hypertemporally [always the polarities dance but at once we are the dancer and the choreographer - and we can sit, throughout time, as either].

[Icecold]

Thank you for your post Astrid. It really resonated with me.

Cheers,

Ice

[Icecold]

It is typical of ANY forum!

This is true.

And what Celine said about uniqueness is also true.


Being born is like being kidnapped. And then sold into slavery.

[Gaia]

When we have complete ease and perceptual openness in all our
experiences especially the negative ones then we find a superb
helpfulness already present within us, which like the sun, is always
shining. There’s a natural ease of being in which no one is a stranger.
Compassion never needs to be cultivated or developed it is always
naturally present in awareness. In fact, compassion is equal to
awareness and can only be found in awareness. The compassion that
can be cultivated and developed is lifeless compared to the
unstoppable compassion that shows no bias. True compassion is totally
innocent and totally free. We can become acquainted with this
compassion only by seeing that awareness has complete mastery over
everything that appears in our thoughts, emotions, and experiences.
http://adishakti.org/images/lotus.gif

Just as the lotus arises out of the mud but is completely
unaffected by the mud, the beautiful flower of compassion appears out
of our deepest, darkest emotions, thoughts, and experiences.

I absolutely love this thread, bemoaning the stress of the past few day is a good idea Céline

[kersley]

Hi All.
2 people i love dearly here on Avalon. Celine and Chris.
I joined here in hope i could find like minded people to share my experience with. Instead i have found many who will regard you a lesser person.
Not been able to spell properly and not putting the the full stop in the right places. Does this make you lesser of a man?

I am a carpenter/builder by trade. The internet is my hobby. the only time i need to write is when i give out basic qoutes for jobs. I could build a 6 bedroom house from the foundation to the very last roof tile. i will run hot water and put the last light bulb in.
These gift are natural. I didn't have to spend years at Uni or college to learn what i do.
There are many here who boost about what Phds they have, what profession they're in. and ridicule others for not been able to string a sentence together properly.
Since your so smart, why do you insist on calling me to change your fuse when the socket in your bedroom don't work? If we were thrown back to the ice age. will you know what tools and materials to use?

Will you have the knowledge to build a structure and save your family from the elements? Or maybe you can Google it? Failing that you could write a blog about it, LOL
I am talented, You are talented, We are all talented in our own special way. Don't ever forget that. Please stop your name calling
Thanks
Kersley

[kersley]

It is typical of ANY forum!

This is true.

And what Celine said about uniqueness is also true.


Being born is like being kidnapped. And then sold into slavery.

You amaze me. Wasn't it you who was name calling on the Heather thread? Wow.You must be so tired ?
Thanks
Kersley

[iceni tribe]

Hi All.
2 people i love dearly here on Avalon. Celine and Chris.
I joined here in hope i could find like minded people to share my experience with. Instead i have found many who will regard you a lesser person.
Not been able to spell properly and not putting the the full stop in the right places. Does this make you lesser of a man?

I am a carpenter/builder by trade. The internet is my hobby. the only time i need to write is when i give out basic qoutes for jobs. I could build a 6 bedroom house from the foundation to the very last roof tile. i will run hot water and put the last light bulb in.
These gift are natural. I didn't have to spend years at Uni or college to learn what i do.
There are many here who boost about what Phds they have, what profession they're in. and ridicule others for not been able to string a sentence together properly.
Since your so smart, why do you insist on calling me to change your fuse when the socket in your bedroom don't work? If we were thrown back to the ice age. will you know what tools and materials to use?

Will you have the knowledge to build a structure and save your family from the elements? Or maybe you can Google it? Failing that you could write a blog about it, LOL
I am talented, You are talented, We are all talented in our own special way. Don't ever forget that. Please stop your name calling
Thanks
Kersley

now i can relate to that , being a builder myself and not a keyboard wizzard.

[greybeard]

Hi All.
2 people i love dearly here on Avalon. Celine and Chris.
I joined here in hope i could find like minded people to share my experience with. Instead i have found many who will regard you a lesser person.
Not been able to spell properly and not putting the the full stop in the right places. Does this make you lesser of a man?

I am a carpenter/builder by trade. The internet is my hobby. the only time i need to write is when i give out basic qoutes for jobs. I could build a 6 bedroom house from the foundation to the very last roof tile. i will run hot water and put the last light bulb in.
These gift are natural. I didn't have to spend years at Uni or college to learn what i do.
There are many here who boost about what Phds they have, what profession they're in. and ridicule others for not been able to string a sentence together properly.
Since your so smart, why do you insist on calling me to change your fuse when the socket in your bedroom don't work? If we were thrown back to the ice age. will you know what tools and materials to use?

Will you have the knowledge to build a structure and save your family from the elements? Or maybe you can Google it? Failing that you could write a blog about it, LOL
I am talented, You are talented, We are all talented in our own special way. Don't ever forget that. Please stop your name calling
Thanks
Kersley

I love Celine too
U also Kersley
I cant spell, wjats a fool stop?
I wish some wood stop.
thas my thot for today
Even spell check wont save me at times.
I left scgool with out even an oh level.
I do have a sense of humor I laugh at me.

Laugh with me.
Chris

[bashi]

Celine, just have trust in "the source".
Many are helping and wondering...


oIVfcOeIJyQ

[Celine]

theres that damn word again...

can we get another one please?

Trust...yes, i am working on that..thank you bashi

[greybeard]

Pick a word any word Celine my friend
A rose by any other would smell as sweet.
Im happy with God but many are not.

Much love Chris

[Charlie Pecos]

Hi All.
2 people i love dearly here on Avalon. Celine and Chris.
I joined here in hope i could find like minded people to share my experience with. Instead i have found many who will regard you a lesser person.
Not been able to spell properly and not putting the the full stop in the right places. Does this make you lesser of a man?

I am a carpenter/builder by trade. The internet is my hobby. the only time i need to write is when i give out basic qoutes for jobs. I could build a 6 bedroom house from the foundation to the very last roof tile. i will run hot water and put the last light bulb in.
These gift are natural. I didn't have to spend years at Uni or college to learn what i do.
There are many here who boost about what Phds they have, what profession they're in. and ridicule others for not been able to string a sentence together properly.
Since your so smart, why do you insist on calling me to change your fuse when the socket in your bedroom don't work? If we were thrown back to the ice age. will you know what tools and materials to use?

Will you have the knowledge to build a structure and save your family from the elements? Or maybe you can Google it? Failing that you could write a blog about it, LOL
I am talented, You are talented, We are all talented in our own special way. Don't ever forget that. Please stop your name calling
Thanks
Kersley

Thank you Kersley,

What you wrote is absolutely true for me as well. I am also a carpeneter/contractor and I have those very same talents you describe.
I love what I do and I have a natural gift for it.

[pickle]

This is NOT a typical forum IMHO
Yes Celine, it's not a typical forum, and that's the reason I joined a short while ago - there's something very special about this place.

I wanted to reply to your first post to say thank you, though I'd be thanking you for more than I can possibly explain. And the same thanks to the many others that have done something special for me in this thread - somebody (apologies, I'm a little lost in the maze of this thread ;-) said something about 'helping those that can't/don't know how to love', so, I think I fit into that category, and reading this today, well, I feel lost and found at the same time. Makes no sense? Me neither.

I lurked here after finding Avalon a few months ago, now I realise I was looking for something I lost a long time ago (I don't mind admitting it was probably desperation...) - and as a new one here I'm at risk of sounding like a complete nutter - but I've done something terribly wrong, I've taken a wrong turn maybe (starting many years ago), I feel like I've forgotten what the heck I was here for (this life, not the forum!) and I've never experienced unhappiness like I have these last few years. I've lost my smile, forgotten what it feels like to love (apart from a very special child, a true anchor in this storm), and as much as I used to pour scorn on those that said you need to love yourself, now I realise I should, and I don't know how. I'm not sure I deserve to either.

So, Celine, and the many people here so rich in good thoughts, I'm writing this with a heart that feels as heavy as lead and with a lump in my throat, I just want to thank you for showing me what I need to do, or where I need to be, I think ...confused..., and to say that it's important you all keep this place so special - you help those like me that have no clue where to begin.

Thank you all so much.

[Brodie75]

Hi All.
2 people i love dearly here on Avalon. Celine and Chris.
I joined here in hope i could find like minded people to share my experience with. Instead i have found many who will regard you a lesser person.
Not been able to spell properly and not putting the the full stop in the right places. Does this make you lesser of a man?

I am a carpenter/builder by trade. The internet is my hobby. the only time i need to write is when i give out basic qoutes for jobs. I could build a 6 bedroom house from the foundation to the very last roof tile. i will run hot water and put the last light bulb in.
These gift are natural. I didn't have to spend years at Uni or college to learn what i do.
There are many here who boost about what Phds they have, what profession they're in. and ridicule others for not been able to string a sentence together properly.
Since your so smart, why do you insist on calling me to change your fuse when the socket in your bedroom don't work? If we were thrown back to the ice age. will you know what tools and materials to use?

Will you have the knowledge to build a structure and save your family from the elements? Or maybe you can Google it? Failing that you could write a blog about it, LOL
I am talented, You are talented, We are all talented in our own special way. Don't ever forget that. Please stop your name calling
Thanks
Kersley

Thank you Kersley,

What you wrote is absolutely true for me as well. I am also a carpeneter/contractor and I have those very same talents you describe.
I love what I do and I have a natural gift for it.

Love both comments
The man outside in the hot sun chopping wood all day is just as important as the wise old story teller around the fire at night :)

[Brodie75]

This is NOT a typical forum IMHO
Yes Celine, it's not a typical forum, and that's the reason I joined a short while ago - there's something very special about this place.

I wanted to reply to your first post to say thank you, though I'd be thanking you for more than I can possibly explain. And the same thanks to the many others that have done something special for me in this thread - somebody (apologies, I'm a little lost in the maze of this thread ;-) said something about 'helping those that can't/don't know how to love', so, I think I fit into that category, and reading this today, well, I feel lost and found at the same time. Makes no sense? Me neither.

I lurked here after finding Avalon a few months ago, now I realise I was looking for something I lost a long time ago (I don't mind admitting it was probably desperation...) - and as a new one here I'm at risk of sounding like a complete nutter - but I've done something terribly wrong, I've taken a wrong turn maybe (starting many years ago), I feel like I've forgotten what the heck I was here for (this life, not the forum!) and I've never experienced unhappiness like I have these last few years. I've lost my smile, forgotten what it feels like to love (apart from a very special child, a true anchor in this storm), and as much as I used to pour scorn on those that said you need to love yourself, now I realise I should, and I don't know how. I'm not sure I deserve to either.

So, Celine, and the many people here so rich in good thoughts, I'm writing this with a heart that feels as heavy as lead and with a lump in my throat, I just want to thank you for showing me what I need to do, or where I need to be, I think ...confused..., and to say that it's important you all keep this place so special - you help those like me that have no clue where to begin.

Thank you all so much.

Thank you pickle and welcome.
I know how you feel. I spent 30yrs lost and depressed, with no direction and no self love and loving yourself is easier said then done at times.
My own experience has taught me that there are no coincedences and so you have been led here to Avalon like the rest of us.
You wont need to look too hard to find the love and inspiration you've been looking for. Have fun bro :peace:

[Charlie Pecos]

This is NOT a typical forum IMHO
Yes Celine, it's not a typical forum, and that's the reason I joined a short while ago - there's something very special about this place.

I wanted to reply to your first post to say thank you, though I'd be thanking you for more than I can possibly explain. And the same thanks to the many others that have done something special for me in this thread - somebody (apologies, I'm a little lost in the maze of this thread ;-) said something about 'helping those that can't/don't know how to love', so, I think I fit into that category, and reading this today, well, I feel lost and found at the same time. Makes no sense? Me neither.

I lurked here after finding Avalon a few months ago, now I realise I was looking for something I lost a long time ago (I don't mind admitting it was probably desperation...) - and as a new one here I'm at risk of sounding like a complete nutter - but I've done something terribly wrong, I've taken a wrong turn maybe (starting many years ago), I feel like I've forgotten what the heck I was here for (this life, not the forum!) and I've never experienced unhappiness like I have these last few years. I've lost my smile, forgotten what it feels like to love (apart from a very special child, a true anchor in this storm), and as much as I used to pour scorn on those that said you need to love yourself, now I realise I should, and I don't know how. I'm not sure I deserve to either.

So, Celine, and the many people here so rich in good thoughts, I'm writing this with a heart that feels as heavy as lead and with a lump in my throat, I just want to thank you for showing me what I need to do, or where I need to be, I think ...confused..., and to say that it's important you all keep this place so special - you help those like me that have no clue where to begin.

Thank you all so much.

Hello and welcome Pickle,

From my heart to yours, please don't give up. I lost someone very special to me because he could not forgive himself for the mistakes he made in life. He was very mean to himself, he kept himself isolated away from the rest of us so that we were mostly unable to help him. He could never find the love for himself that should be innate in all of us. With everyone else, he was a kind and generous man, to a fault.
What I am saying to you is, if I could come through this screen and give you a big bear hug, and fill you with my love, I would do it right now.

So heres what were gonna do:
I want you to imagine a big burly teddy bear of a guy giving you the best hug you've ever had in your life filled with love and the most gentle kindness you have ever known.
From my heart to yours, you are a very special person. You are on the right path. Everything will work out fine, you will see. Never lose faith, always be kind to yourself.
And always, always remember to forgive yourself and love yourself. You definitely deserve it.:hug:

With Love,

Charlie

[Brodie75]

Thank you Charlie for proving my point. :)
I love your style. Big love at you mate

[pickle]

Charlie and Brodie..... Don't want to hog the thread, just to say a huge thanks to you both.

[slipknotted]

i havent been apart of forum before but this place is awesome to me, never have i been able talk to people about such topics with out some one feeling or thinkng this guy is crazy or something ha ha except my father but then again he's family ha ha the information here is without a doubt just grand, thanks to all here we are a movement in action !

[benevolentcrow]

Have you ever been with someone, said nothing, and walked away feeling like you just had the best conversation ever?

[lightblue]

from celine's OP
Bring your fears, your anger, your mind games Throw them in the fire. You no longer need those weapons.


think i know what you meant - something like this maybe:




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-oMHPZgKJc

.

[FutureLeFunk]

What wonderful music the heart of Avalon is playing!

thank you

Music is beautiful :)

But what's the energy/emotion that we feel when we listen to it?

Is it based on our own reality, a former memory of a past experience?. Perhaps the deepest connection with a song is the first memory experienced, being held as a newborn surrounded by love. But then surely that first memory of love must also come from somewhere itself.

I like to think that the energy of love is life itself. The actual reality is life connected between each and everyone of us. The beauty of Avalon is that it reminds us of this connection. It is a connection that cannot be broken, but the effects can be weakened/complicated by our own perception of reality.

Perhaps music is just a little reminder. From the particular moment in time when heard, to the song being sung and the first breath of life.

Is our destiny in this life, to return to our first breath taken?. The depth of connection with that moment decides which path we take?. Can a pyramid remove the layers of our own reality?.

My heart beats like a butterfly's wings on the gentle breeze of life. That picture is what I like to focus on, no matter what storms others may project onto me. The beauty of our perceived reality, is our ability to share it with others. Like a newborn being held for the first time.

Peace, love & thanks!

:love:

[jackovesk]

In the words of Australia's infamous Boxer, Jeff Fenech "I Loves Yoos All"!

http://ts3.mm.bing.net/images/thumbnail.aspx?q=553065721110&id=861ac0d47c46b2fc649e070f83b2bbe6&url=http%3a%2f%2fprofile.ak.fbcdn.net%2fhprofile-ak-snc4%2fhs352.snc4%2f41786_26755555660_4855110_n.jpg

Has this thread finished yet?

[Celine]

LOL!!

thx for the laughs jack..

guess the answer to your question is...no...since you (and now I ) responded.

I would love to read other peoples letters to Avalon

[Icecold]

Thank you AVALON for levelling the playing field ;)


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