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Strat
15th February 2011, 16:02
I was born and raised here in Florida. I've lived my entire life here in Jacksonville, 'The River City.' My father lived here, his father, and so on. There's a great story my dad tells of how great the fishing used to be around here. When he was a kid, he said it was quite common to go to the beach, and see people with pickup trucks full of fish! Fishing, wasn't much of a skill in the 50's (sorry for giving away your age pops) as it is today. You'd bait a hook, cast, and wait a second for a bite.
That is not the case today! If you plan an entire day to go fishing, you'll most likely catch a sunburn and a few fish here and there. There are endless streams lakes and rivers here, but not a lot of fish. I've caught quite a few catfish, but I"ve been told our catfish is nasty to eat, so I throw them back. I still enjoy fishing, I do catch some fish, and the scenery is beautiful. I've seen pods of dolphins (in the river) as well as a manatee. Manatees are huge! Just last month the Coast Guard chased a whale out of one of our rivers, the St. Johns.
So this forum is a great place to ask, what's the fishing like where you live? If you go out for a days fishing, do you catch as much as you can eat, then leave? Or is it more like, you catch as many as you can, which is typically less than a dozen, and then leave?
Shairia
15th February 2011, 16:05
Hi Strat,
Like your area, the fish here aren't as plentiful as they once were when I was young. I live on the shore of a large freshwater lake and Trout, Bass, Perch and Smelt used to be plentiful. Now you're lucky if you can catch 1/4 of a pail of perch after an entire day of fishing. I don't know why but I think it might have something to do with pollution and the pleasure craft industry which has developed over the years.
brotybro
15th February 2011, 16:20
Hello, Strat
I live in eastern Ontario, Canada.
I enjoy everything about fishing. I especially like the fact that it brings my parents and my children all together. My parents live on a secluded lake about 45 mins from town, down a trecherous and private rd. The fishing there is incredible.
In the popular lakes closer to the city the fishing is also very good. I am however a little hesitant to eat the fish out of the popular lakes. (especially Ontario).
I can often catch enough for the whole family to eat very early, however we stay all day whenever possible( I get excited just thinking about it).
The ice fishing this year has been a little slow compared to years past. To combat this we bring our hockey skates.
A bad day of fishing is better than a good day at work.
sister
15th February 2011, 16:27
Hey Strat, I am a 3rd generation Floridian. My grandfather owned a fish camp on the Suwannee River in the 1940's... that camp is now gone and so is most of the fishing in the area. I think over development of real estate and the population explosion in the 1980's in Florida put a strain on the natural resources here. My neighbor has a charter fishing boat and takes groups out in deep water for kingfish, mostly. He used to catch enough to give away, but he hardly does that anymore. I think the water near the coast is over fished, and the shrimping industry here doesn't help with that, either. Add in the growth of the naval bases in the area, and it's easy to see why the pickings seem so slim now. On a lighter note, I was out in one of the springs (naked spring) near Gainesville last summer and saw a huge bass under the dock. Didn't tell anyone because I wanted him to stay safe under there... he would have ended up in some one's cooler for sure.
9eagle9
15th February 2011, 17:04
Michigan with access to the Great Lakes. We are never more than five minutes from a body of water here. Inland lakes offer walleye (my favorite hands down mannah from heaven and I'll fillet the person that disagrees ;), perch, lots of different pan fish, sunfish, croppie, etc.. Sport fishing is usually catch and release as Bass and Pike don't taste all that great.. If catch it and I'm not going to eat it, it goes back. There's good salmon runs and smelt runs too. Pretty abundant fishing here inland and Great Lakes. The conservation and stock programs have been decent until late. Our problem as is with everywhere else is zebra mussels.
In the great lakes there's even greater variety but more often I focus on my obsession with wall eye so Saginaw Bay, mostly.
Shaira made a good point about pleasure crafts. Some of the fish I've harvested from all sports lakes taste like boat exhaust. I try to find those lakes that have no motor boats on them. Less a problem on the Great Lakes. There's a small lake or large pond however you prefer a few minutes walk here, and a larger private access lake that I don't have any official access to unless you call 'sneaking' access.
Just sold my boat not sure what I'm going to do this year :(
Whitehaze
15th February 2011, 17:22
I live in Florida as well, having moved here in 1994. The fishing then was fantastic, I could come home with a boat load of fish everytime I went out. Now its very difficult to catch fish, especially in the Gulf of Mexico. They are there occasionally, however, when cleaning the fish you find tumors and parasites and the meat of the fish isnt appealing at all.
I also spend much time diving the rivers of Florida looking for fossils and artifacts. In every place I enter the water, I see fish that are diseased, deformed and just sick. Some have growths on their scales that look like external tumors. They cant swim very well and I can imagine it is difficult for them to find food. On one occasion when I was working a site in 30 feet of water, a bass was hanging around very close. One eye was completely white and struggled to hold an upright position. I noticed it was watching the sediment I was kicking up from a crevice I was working. It was looking for food and didnt care a human was close. I took some of the worms from the crevice and held it out to the bass. It graciously took the food, and patiently waited for the next. That fish hung around for four hours waiting for me to feed it worms.
Our waters are sick and dying.
Shairia
15th February 2011, 17:40
9eagle9,
You have walleye in your lakes??? We can only catch them here in the mountain steams and they are a rare find.
Charlie Pecos
15th February 2011, 17:40
Hi Strat,
I live in Colorado. The publicly accessible waters here tend to be over fished, and receive a lot of pressure making it very difficult to catch wary fish. If one is fortunate enough to gain access to a private lake, it can be a lot of fun. I agree with staying away from recreational boater lakes as I have had good fishing shut off due to their presence. Here in Colorado, there are just not that many catch and release fishermen, proportionally speaking. I have witnessed many fish pulled that should have been left in---> Big females that produce alot of eggs! If you try to educate these people they just get rude with you. It is best to teach the kids as they tend to take that idea with them for life. My daughter is chomping at the bit right now to go fishing;)
We have walleye here, but the Missouri river in South Dakota is where I like to fish for them.
Just too much fun. Those river 'eyes fight hard!
9eagle9
15th February 2011, 20:13
There's walleye all over. Even private citizens stock walleye on their ponds and lakes if they will support them. Walleye seem to do well in the colder waters of the North.Bass too. I notice the bass south aways are not as large.
Much of the inland walleye have been stocked but some lakes and tributaries have access to the bigger waters so they make their way inland that way. I haven't noticed a decline in fish overall of late but I don' t fish all species and no one has really mentioned it. We do find the odd diseased fish and have specific problems, but since most of our industry is piled into one corner of the state the rest doesn't suffer as much particularly the UP. I dont' to make it sound like we're pristine waters here but I tend to find our water cleaner than in southern states that don't get the hard winter kill off.
The really cold winters in the North kill off a lot of warmth loving bacterial overgrowth whether its artificially induced or not. Cold water fish are less susceptible for some reason here, while we have spurts of problems with the warmer fish. States that remain temperate throughout the year don't have a process like that to serve the health of their water and it becomes even more important to eyeball the amount of contaminants that get into their waters. We get our share of e coli beach closings and stuff. When that occurs we usually find out later some township has been dumping sewage somewhere so even the contamination serves a purpose in alerting us to some assholery we might not have otherwise known was happening. And because this is a international water way ships from all over the world have bilged in hostile plant and fish life, like alewives.
Thus far its remained pretty good.
waverider5469
15th February 2011, 20:28
Aloha Strat, I live on Maui. The fish here a plenty, but also a bit difficult to catch. The 50's were about the same here, from the stories I've heard. We catch Ulua(crevale),Ono(wahoo), and Mahimahi(dolphin) quite often. Some get
worms and parasites, but not too often. However, the resort industry has been wrecking our reefs for years. peace
Ouroboros
15th February 2011, 22:51
Well Im a keen Scottish fisherman and fishing is very much a passion of mine. Most of my fishing is done at sea either on my kayak or from the shore. The UK as you are aware is an island but now days we import 80% of our fish! Poor management of our seas by the European union has left us with a fishery that is on the edge of collapse. Industrialized fishing techniques and unworkable fishing quotas are in my opinion the problem.
Without getting too technical on the subject the seas around the uk coast are open to boats from throughout the E.U. Many of these boats employ a technique called beam trawling. Large heavy metal beams at the bottom of these huge nets are dragged along the sea bed smashing up reefs leaving the seabed a featureless desert. All fish get caught and brought aboard. Now say the skipper has already caught his quota of cod for the month and he has a tonne of cod in his nets he has to throw those cod back into the sea dead and try another trawling for a species he has not yet reached his quota on. It is criminal it is unsustainable and if the equivalent was happening on land in view of the public there would be outrage.
So in answer to your question the fishing ain't what it used to be.
RamblingRebel
15th February 2011, 23:10
I do a spot of fishing here in Ireland, and I'd say it's pretty good. I moved here about 2 years ago, the 1st time I hit the river I was catching a decent roach every cast, nothing big, but big enough to make it fun.
Where I am is lake country and we have people coming from all over the world just for the fishing. Some of the locals complain that is over fished. But in my opinion (being an Englishman) it's still great fishing. We have the usual Perch, Roach, Hybrids, Brown Trout, and monster Pike.
The fishing here is heavily regulated because of the industry that surrounds it. There was an article in the papers last Summer where a couple of blokes were caught taking more than thier quota of Pike, and they were fined thousands of Euro's and got a 2 year suspended sentence.
Catch and release is practiced, and encouraged, but its not the law, although there are quota's as previously mentioned but thats just for the Pike, and Trout.
Looking forward to the weather picking up now so I can get down by the rivers and lakes.:hat:
Strat
15th February 2011, 23:19
We do get massive boats going through the rivers here in Jax. The St. Johns is basically a highway. Big boats come in from all over the world, enter in the St. Johns and head to Jaxport. There are plans to dredge the St. Johns so that we can fit a nuclear powered air craft carrier. There are also cruise ships, though they typically head south towards the Caribbean.
The rivers of Jax don't look bad aesthetically. I know that sounds silly, but rivers in cities often do simply appear nasty. Hopefully the people of Jax can keep it that way, and revert it back to what it used to be.
Stuart M.
15th February 2011, 23:29
Michigan with access to the Great Lakes. We are never more than five minutes from a body of water here. Inland lakes offer walleye (my favorite hands down mannah from heaven and I'll fillet the person that disagrees ;), perch, lots of different pan fish, sunfish, croppie, etc.. Sport fishing is usually catch and release as Bass and Pike don't taste all that great.. If catch it and I'm not going to eat it, it goes back. There's good salmon runs and smelt runs too. Pretty abundant fishing here inland and Great Lakes. The conservation and stock programs have been decent until late. Our problem as is with everywhere else is zebra mussels.
In the great lakes there's even greater variety but more often I focus on my obsession with wall eye so Saginaw Bay, mostly.
Shaira made a good point about pleasure crafts. Some of the fish I've harvested from all sports lakes taste like boat exhaust. I try to find those lakes that have no motor boats on them. Less a problem on the Great Lakes. There's a small lake or large pond however you prefer a few minutes walk here, and a larger private access lake that I don't have any official access to unless you call 'sneaking' access.
Just sold my boat not sure what I'm going to do this year :(
Thats a tuffy 9eagle 9. If I'm out that way you'd be welcome in my boat! In Iowa walleye management is fair, but it is a very sought after species. Plus as I get older the ethics of the whole thing has crept in more and more for me but I still enjoy fishing quite a bit. Love the coveted walleye for sure.
Stu
Lifebringer
15th February 2011, 23:34
Our fisheries were outsourced to other countries under our noses. Somalia has that problem also. They used to be able to fish and feed their families, but since their goverment gave China permission to fish there, without the people's knowledge, the fish are carted all the way back to China as their seas are poisoned and they are into farm fishing with antibiotics.
People in developing countries need to watch out for this other outsourcing of our food resources. Yes, I've caught more sunburn than fish. This is gonna hit the bate and tackle businesses nationwide.
Lifebringer
15th February 2011, 23:38
I think when they are getting the money to stock the lakes and streams, they are keeping the money for themselves.
Either way they'll not get my money for a license or bait if it doesn't change.
WE need cleaner waters, air, and soil if we are to survive. Clean water, clean fish. If all that's left are catfish/scavengers, then we are in for a bumpy ride as the public fisheries are bought up by corporations and soon we will have to rely on them for the fish. Sound scary, that is their plan. To own it all and charge exorbant price when they overspend on the next yacht.
9eagle9
15th February 2011, 23:38
That's why I painfully let go of my boat. Took a real good look at what it was doing to the environment when I had it out. I've had a boat for the better part of my adult life and it hurts to give it up, but there's got to a be a cleaner alternative. I made this choice on an unconscious level when I suddenly found myself unwilling to take it out, something was weird about that because I live on it in the summer practically , as soon as the ice clears off the lakes in late march early april I'm there. . After I dug around a little that's what I found, guilt over the junk it was leaving in the water. I went from the monster V-8 I/O to the smaller 2 stroke thinking I was making a difference and I wasn't. Just leaving exhaust film everywhere. The two stroke was worse even.
Maybe a little fishing boat with the most a little electric doo jobby...whatsis...whatsis .(women speak here...be patient) .....TROLLING motor... Or just go back to the old oars. Kayak, canoe, etc. Re evaluate the waters I fish in so I don't need boat access. I'm a water sign-water baby and I can't stand beaches because I want to be surrounded by water but I can't stand the thought of not having water one day either or being able to live with myself because I contributed to it. As teenager and young adult I used to be very inventive in ways of getting out on the big lakes . May have to get back into the inner child there.
pugwash84
15th February 2011, 23:41
The waters are overfished here you even need to buy a fishing liscence before being allowed to fish its stupid. I can catch in 1 long day of fishing about 30 fish not all big and a lot of varietys of fish i caught mostly flat fish at one point but different fish are caught more on different seasons. i use a lot of different bait like sweetcorn and dogfood and maggots and worms also some fish like bread and some like spam oh and if you mush some cheese up and put it on your hook fish like cheese too. oh and i sometimes put a bit of sweetcorn and a bit of bread on the same hook. experiment a bit more maybe with bait.
Lifebringer
15th February 2011, 23:44
Time for the Just Do It generation to clean the rivers and streams like a science project with all the balances replaced that man has destroyed.
Otherwise, good by omega 3's.
OUr fisheries cannot become the rich's yachting playground, if their fossil fuels are killing the inland fish.
Just a thought on progress.
9eagle9
15th February 2011, 23:51
They already don't get my money for a liscence. Last time I docked my boat up on Saginaw bay the DNR was waiting on the dock. When I got out of my boat, they asked if I'd been fishing in prelude to asking to see my lisence and stamps.. I was holding all my tackle and poles, and just said. "No. Why?" (what made you think that.?) Then I walked off. Not a problem.
I even been as bold to say, I dont' need a license I'm Native American (never mind the blond hair and blue eyes-- bull**** lies and conspiracy works both ways right?) They've fed me a line all my life, I don't mind feeding a line back. It works coming and going.
I think when they are getting the money to stock the lakes and streams, they are keeping the money for themselves.
Either way they'll not get my money for a license or bait if it doesn't change.
WE need cleaner waters, air, and soil if we are to survive. Clean water, clean fish. If all that's left are catfish/scavengers, then we are in for a bumpy ride as the public fisheries are bought up by corporations and soon we will have to rely on them for the fish. Sound scary, that is their plan. To own it all and charge exorbant price when they overspend on the next yacht.
9eagle9
15th February 2011, 23:55
And if you're out this way I'll be happy to take you up on the offer, I'm getting the guilts too but not sure I can go cold turkey or need to. Lots of good places left. Some of the lakes have been over run with overbuilding but the home owners are adamant about keeping their lakes in good shape so you get the good and the bad. We get a lot of Iowans here to fish, they say they don't have water in Iowa. he he . They come up for the morel hunts to in May as well.
Michigan with access to the Great Lakes. We are never more than five minutes from a body of water here. Inland lakes offer walleye (my favorite hands down mannah from heaven and I'll fillet the person that disagrees ;), perch, lots of different pan fish, sunfish, croppie, etc.. Sport fishing is usually catch and release as Bass and Pike don't taste all that great.. If catch it and I'm not going to eat it, it goes back. There's good salmon runs and smelt runs too. Pretty abundant fishing here inland and Great Lakes. The conservation and stock programs have been decent until late. Our problem as is with everywhere else is zebra mussels.
In the great lakes there's even greater variety but more often I focus on my obsession with wall eye so Saginaw Bay, mostly.
Shaira made a good point about pleasure crafts. Some of the fish I've harvested from all sports lakes taste like boat exhaust. I try to find those lakes that have no motor boats on them. Less a problem on the Great Lakes. There's a small lake or large pond however you prefer a few minutes walk here, and a larger private access lake that I don't have any official access to unless you call 'sneaking' access.
Just sold my boat not sure what I'm going to do this year :(
Thats a tuffy 9eagle 9. If I'm out that way you'd be welcome in my boat! In Iowa walleye management is fair, but it is a very sought after species. Plus as I get older the ethics of the whole thing has crept in more and more for me but I still enjoy fishing quite a bit. Love the coveted walleye for sure.
Stu
Peta Babkama Luruba Anaku
16th February 2011, 00:00
Fantastic thread. Thank you for starting it. I live in Eastern Ontario like brotybro. The area I live in is called the "Thousand Islands". Lakes are everywhere. I have been distracted for so long. Thank you for helping me remember how much I enjoyed fishing. I now plan to do some soon. Responsibly. I hope it's not to late.
9eagle9
16th February 2011, 00:01
I've tried them all with some fair success. My killer bait is using fish oil gel caps. Try it you practically don't need a hook they jump in the boat after you.
The waters are overfished here you even need to buy a fishing liscence before being allowed to fish its stupid. I can catch in 1 long day of fishing about 30 fish not all big and a lot of varietys of fish i caught mostly flat fish at one point but different fish are caught more on different seasons. i use a lot of different bait like sweetcorn and dogfood and maggots and worms also some fish like bread and some like spam oh and if you mush some cheese up and put it on your hook fish like cheese too. oh and i sometimes put a bit of sweetcorn and a bit of bread on the same hook. experiment a bit more maybe with bait.
witchy1
16th February 2011, 00:02
Might put a plug in for the Kiwis here:.
About 30% of New Zealanders engage in, at least occasionally, recreational fishing with recreational take of about 25,000 tonnes. There are about 2 tonnes of fish in NZ fisheries for every NZer and just under 10% of this stock is harvested each year. Its the countrys 5th biggest exporter. The country now exports 90% of the fish harvest since 2000. 129 species are targeted comercially. There is 4.1m square miles of fishing zone, the 6th biggest on the planet. It also has the 10,000 metre Kermedic trench quite close which is the 2nd deepest in the oceans so makes it quite unique and diverse (source Wikipedia)
You can fish rivers, lakes deep sea and high sea fishing. The water is clean and the country green. They even replenish stock of trout in Lake Taupo annually (and probably other lakes). Many local councils have yearly fishing competitions at certain times of the year
They will close down fisheries to allow stock to recover if in danger - eg orange roughy
Delacacies include famous Bluff oysters, crayfish, paua, whitebait etc. (never went eel or kina) We grew up on this food and perhaps took it for granted. Now of course there are quotos and many many foreign ships poach our fish. They are very active outside (and often inside) the 12k zone which depletes stock very quickly.
There are only 2 countries in the world that I eat fish from and that is Australia or NZ. No New Zealander lives more that 2 hours away from the beach.
I havnt fished in Oz, but understand from friends that there are some pretty amazing secret spots here. (I wouldnt eat fish from sydney harbour - I think the fish glow green)
One of my brothers just parks up at the beach or rocks and throws out his line and catches beautiful fish, runs home to throw on the barbie - YUM. My son goes down to the river at the back of the farm and catches heaps in there either from the side or in his little tinnie. However it has been some years since I have indulged in it. Used to love it.
Most common, Snapper, trout, salmon, flounder, kingfish, hoki, Terakihi etc - Of course you have to go out a bit further for Marlin :-)
ADDIT: Dont forget to throw the first fish back.
str8thinker
16th February 2011, 00:06
In Australia we've just finished watching the 6-part series South Pacific, narrated by Benedict Slumberbatch. This thread brings Episode 6 to mind:
. "Fragile Paradise"
Tuna are threatended with extinction due to commercial fishing practices and a lack of protected marine reserves
UK broadcast 14 June 2009, 1.99 million viewers (9.4% audience share)[3]
The final episode focuses on the environmental problems facing the South Pacific. Climate change threatens many islands, because they are low-lying and could be engulfed by rising seas. On Tuvalu, seawater bubbles up through the ground at high tides, making evacuation a realistic possibility. Oceans absorb half of all atmospheric CO2, but this turns them acidic, preventing sea creatures from building calciferous shells. The most immediate threat is overfishing. Reef damage by boats and tourism affects fish populations, but coral gardeners in Fiji have a solution. They harvest and grow corals artificially, then transplant them back to damaged reefs. Different fishing methods are compared, from sustainable pole and line fishing practised by Solomon Islanders to long-line fishing, which has endangered albatross populations across the region. Commercial fishing vessels lay huge purse seine nets, large enough to catch 150 tonnes at a time. Cameras follow the action inside the net as a haul of yellowfin and skipjack tuna are brought to the surface. Greenpeace's flagship Esperanza patrols the high seas, unprotected pockets of ocean where fishing is unregulated. Less than 1% of the Pacific is protected, and yet up to 90% of its large predatory fish may have been lost already. A Fijian community reef is proof that protection could yet work. Tourism benefits from divers prepared to pay for close encounters with bull and tiger sharks, and fishermen benefit from increased stocks. An international conservation effort also helped save humpback whales, as numbers have recovered since the whaling ban.[9]
Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Pacific_%28TV_series%29#6._.22Fragile_Paradise.22)
Note: The series was released by Discovery International in the USA under the title Wild Pacific, with narration provided by Mike Rowe.
What the synopsis doesn't mention is that in "pockets" of international waters lying between the islands' national fishing zones, huge trawlers from Taiwan and as far afield as Spain lie in wait for whole shoals of fish. If you haven't seen the series I highly recommend it. You should be able to find all the episodes on BitTorrent.
Fractalius
16th February 2011, 00:16
My response is best given by directing you to this documentary which involves my local fishing coast. Related subjects are again in our news here currently.
The Great New Zealand Fishing Scandal.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2uPnG4qEmY&feature=related
shybastid
16th February 2011, 00:21
9eagle9? You mean like bad vitamin E gels that taste like carp?(and crap)
THAT kind of gel cap to catch fish?
witchy1
16th February 2011, 00:27
What the synopsis doesn't mention is that in "pockets" of international waters lying between the islands' national fishing zones, huge trawlers from Taiwan and as far afield as Spain lie in wait for whole shoals of fish
Yes Str8thinker - they are a menace and dont subscribe to sustainable fishing. They process everything they catch on board, including endngered species. They have no care. The coast guards regulary catch them inside the 12k zones they are not allowed in. Despite the fines they come back and back and back. Anything not considered edible are ground up and used as fertalizer etc. Such a waste of valuable marine life. Dont get me started on the whale situation
The countries should be sued for piracy IMHO
9eagle9
16th February 2011, 00:27
Yes that kind of gel cap. It's fish oil. Fish like the taste of other fish...lol. Thus the use of bait fish. . I don't know if you ever heard of the killer irresistible bait otherwise known as WD40, the all purpose lubricant? People who fish up here use it in lieu of bait. Its principal ingredient is fish oil (maybe shark oil) . I didn't like the idea of putting whatever else might be in WD40 (contaniments) in the water so I just tried the fish oil caps. Worked the same way, maybe even better.
shybastid
16th February 2011, 00:43
Great suggestion. I live at Lake Tahoe. Lots of old fish and new fish.(They stock it) It's my understanding that Powerbait is illegal in certain States for fishing because the manufacturers took the "essence" of the feedstock used in fisheries . So,evidently the fish remember the smell from the hatchery and respond accordingly. They get released in the wild and smell "mommafood."
One of my kids just said your idea is a great suggestion.
Thanks..
(Dad always likes to act like he's in the know)
witchy1
16th February 2011, 00:47
My response is best given by directing you to this documentary which involves my local fishing coast. Related subjects are again in our news here currently.
The Great New Zealand Fishing Scandal Hi Fractilius, I knew about the joint ventures and assumed watchers were on all vessels and vigilant...........clearly NOT!
This is simply appalling. Why do they do business with them. Do you think if they got rid of the joint venture boats then the price of local fish prices would skyrocket??? If not, then why have them at all. Where is the benefit to the NZer???????
That sounded like David Lange commentating it was only made 12 months ago?
BMJ
16th February 2011, 01:34
Hi Guys,
I used to go fishing with my dad up at the central coast of NSW. The fish have dwindled due to over fishing by the fishing industry even so, it's still was a fun experience. When:
Your launching the boat threw the surf of the beach or riding the waves back into shore safely later that day.
Having had a whale make it way directly under the boat and popping
either side for some fresh air, it sounds like a steam train when it takes a breath, and its like a little island when it pops up.
Having a shark as long as the boat, 16 feet, following us around looking for a feed, I don't know if we were on the menu or our catch, because we spent the day trying to shack him off.
Having dolphins pop beside the boat at speed to playfully squirt some water in your face.
Or coming back to shore after loading up the boat and seating and having a bit of a chat, to then see a pod of dolphins body surfing the waves in the mid day sun.
The fish might not be there like the used to be, but fishing still has it's upside, these close encounters of the natural kind.
lightwalker
16th February 2011, 01:49
I live in Southern Connecticut. I do fishing both saltwater and fresh. I fish "barb-less" and do catch and release.(fresh water) It took me a while to bring in a catch on a barbed hook but I figured if my big brother could do it fly fishing I could do it with a spinning rod. I have a Raddison canoe that I bought a couple of years ago that I could lift on my own. They make them in Canada with a foam lining so they don't make noise and wide enough so I can row them like a rowboat. My fav kind of fishing is bass fishing but I really don't care if it's even a sun fish. I grew up listening to hunting and fishing stories from my Mom and Dad. My Mom taught me how to fish about 6 years ago and for that I am deeply grateful. She was also the first woman introduced by my Dad to skeet shooting at his gun club. I have also taught inner city girls how to fish and that has been very rewarding.
Thanks for this post.
lightwalker
Whiskey_Mystic
16th February 2011, 01:58
When I was a kid, my family would got to the shore in Washington state. We would bring home large buckets of clams with little effort. I am told that it is not even remotely like that now.
Here in Northern California, the biggest threat to coastal fishing is the destruction of spawning grounds due to development. Logging trees also removes badly needed shade areas. Some efforts are being made to build artificial shade over streams. Runoff from urban development and agriculture, including pesticide fom vineyards, is polluting streams. In many parts of the world, factory ships are vaccuuming up the fish faster than they will be able to repopulate. That is the reason the commercial trend is toward fish farms. That sounds great on the surface (pun intended), but the fish farms are disease factories and they pass the diseases on to wild fish. Also, the companies saturate the fish farm areas with antibiotics and other drugs.
Sadly, my favorite food is salmon sashimi.
noxon medem
16th February 2011, 02:13
We ourselves are mostly water.
Maybe that is where we have to go fishing .?.
PS.
Here in Norway there are reports of record fishing
in the North and Arctic Sea.
http://www.kystogfjord.no/Kategorier/Industri/Slakkere-paa-line
Hope the bad fishing elsewhere is only short-time seasonal changes.
Also here in this country freshwater fishing has been very variable over the
last decades, but after strong personal and community effords it is improving.
A note on the local waters in my island. Here it is a problem that people in general
do not fish in the lakes and rivers anymore, then the fishpopulation outgrow the
resource-base, and the result is a lot of tiny small fishes, and fewer big ones.
For me the fishingtrip, and sitting by the river or sea is the main experience.
I do not care if I get a lot of fish, but do care, and hope, nature stays healthy.
:fish2:
Thanks for the reminder. Time to go fishing.
See you later.
Ouroboros
16th February 2011, 17:55
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2fZcmjbqpA
This above clip shows the sorry state of the UK fisheries and shocking European Policies it operates under.
Please watch.
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