Egypt Wasn't a Revolution, It Was a Military Coup

[Northern Boy]

http://www.lewrockwell.com/celente/celente63.1.html



Previously by Gerald Celente: Revolutionary Fervor to Spread Beyond Arab States; Europe Next

http://www.lewrockwell.com/celente/celente62.1.html





By Gerald Celente

The Egyptian people in Liberation Square celebrated, the world leaders weighed in, and the global media parroted the tale of "history in the making." The big bad Hosni Mubarak has "listened to the voices of the Egyptian people" and has bowed to their demands to finally end his 30-year presidential rule.

On February 11th, the news came in a brief statement made by freshly anointed Vice President Omar "Egypt is not ready for democracy" Suleiman: "In these grave circumstances that the country is passing through, President Hosni Mubarak has decided to leave his position as president of the republic. He has mandated the Armed Forces Supreme Council to run the state."

Following the announcement, Nobel Prize recipient (and the West’s favorite opposition leader and George Soros man) Mohamed ElBaradei said it was the "greatest day" of his life and that "the country has been liberated."

The "greatest day" was summed up in a USA Today headline: "Mubarak resigns; military takes over in Egypt."

Trends Journal subscribers didn’t have to wait until February 11th to know the outcome of this "history in the making." In our February 1st Trend Alert we forecast:

As we will see in Egypt, military coups will be disguised as regime changes. Already the public is being conditioned to view the Egyptian military as beloved liberators. But in fact they are simply another arm of the autocratic government, no more familiar with democratic ideals than the dictator they replace...who had himself been drawn from the ranks of the military.

to read the rest follow the Celente 63 link at the top of the page

[sjkted]

Thanks for posting this. This "revolution" is beginning to look more manufactured every day.

--sjkted

[Ahkenaten]

or, if it wasn't manufactured, it has been commandeered

[sjkted]

Perhaps, but if TPTB really didn't want a revolution, they could have been backing off overt forms of control and transitioning them over to covert forms of control.

Somehow, I think this is their plan: to convert Egypt and the Middle East over to our system. Generally, mind control and indoctrination works best and few people step far out of line. Just keep the TV on and the beer flowing and it's all good.

--sjkted

[Ahkenaten]

there is nothing covert about transitioning to a military dictatorship.......perhaps a faux democratic movement in the Middle East (overt military dictatorships in all states after existing systems are usurped) is preferable to the unwieldy patchwork-quilt status quo

[Midnight Rambler]

Food prices were so high that a lot of people could not afford to buy it. The people were pushed in a corner.

Maybe the food prices were manipulated to provoke a revolution, or at least chaos.

[Ahkenaten]

or.................general unrest over economic issues was used as a pretext for inserting a military dictatorship......and that particular military depends on an annual infusion of billions of dollars in US aid

[sjkted]

But, why a military dictatorship? Wasn't Mubarak a dictator? And, wasn't he in full control of the military? How is a military dictatorship any different?

--sjkted

[Midnight Rambler]

or.................general unrest over economic issues was used as a pretext for inserting a military dictatorship......and that particular military depends on an annual infusion of billions of dollars in US aid

So, if I understand you correctly, you think that it is a possibility that the military created the protests?

I find that a bit hard to swallow. The protesters consisted of the young and old, men, women and children, the whole population and they risked everything. There are still hundreds missing. A large amount of people were tortured.

I can't really put it into words but I just can't imagine that it was part of a military strategy to take over the country.

[Ahkenaten]

But, why a military dictatorship? Wasn't Mubarak a dictator? And, wasn't he in full control of the military? How is a military dictatorship any different?

--sjkted

You never know maybe Mubarak pissed someone off ..... maybe someone is lusting after the billions he stashed here and there.

[Zook]

But, why a military dictatorship? Wasn't Mubarak a dictator? And, wasn't he in full control of the military? How is a military dictatorship any different?

--sjkted

Distraction. Whilst we gather about the piggy bank ... the Brinks truck is making speed quietly in the other direction.

[sjkted]

You never know maybe Mubarak pissed someone off ..... maybe someone is lusting after the billions he stashed here and there.


This is a lot of commotion for a simple power grab. If he pissed someone off, he would have been assassinated, poisoned, or there would have been an "accident" IMO.

--sjkted

[Ahkenaten]

or.................general unrest over economic issues was used as a pretext for inserting a military dictatorship......and that particular military depends on an annual infusion of billions of dollars in US aid

So, if I understand you correctly, you think that it is a possibility that the military created the protests?

I find that a bit hard to swallow. The protesters consisted of the young and old, men, women and children, the whole population and they risked everything. There are still hundreds missing. A large amount of people were tortured.

I can't really put it into words but I just can't imagine that it was part of a military strategy to take over the country.

No I am not saying that at all, I am just saying that perhaps a genuine grassroots movement was commandeered for a purpose..............I did observe that the US was left behind by events on the ground, flummoxxed so to speak................but perhaps they saw a way to take control of the situation by supporting a military coup........the Egyptian military does in fact heavily rely on billions of $$ in US aid annually, that is the leverage point. Even if it only a temporary "fix" at least that would hold for awhile while they scramble other options. UNTIL and IF the Egyptian people figure out what happened, and then all bets are off. Note that now the propaganda line is that there are parallel "democratic" grassroots protests in other countries in the region, in particular - in Iran. It creates the APPEARANCE of a region-wide homogeneous grassroots movement. In fact the countries are all so different, there is no region-wide homogeneous movement. Just a thought.

[Shairia]

NB this conjecture came out the night he stepped down. Perhaps a little background on this, Mubarak was Anwar Sudat's VP and take a look a history repeating itself:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anwar_El_Sadat

[Ahkenaten]

You never know maybe Mubarak pissed someone off ..... maybe someone is lusting after the billions he stashed here and there.


This is a lot of commotion for a simple power grab. If he pissed someone off, he would have been assassinated, poisoned, or there would have been an "accident" IMO.

--sjkted

It is a regional narrative, regional problem and regional "solution" - the story ain't all been told yet. At this point Mr. Mubarak is besides the point - the only thing of interest is the billions he has stolen and stashed, and probably that is being looked at very closely now, accounts frozen and re-stolen, etc.

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NB this conjecture came out the night he stepped down. Perhaps a little background on this, Mubarak was Anwar Sudat's VP and take a look a history repeating itself:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anwar_El_Sadat

Yes and not to mention that Mr. Silliman (sp) is a CIA man...................................and, well...........it don't take a rocket scientist to connect those big black dots

[3optic]

You never know maybe Mubarak pissed someone off ..... maybe someone is lusting after the billions he stashed here and there.


This is a lot of commotion for a simple power grab. If he pissed someone off, he would have been assassinated, poisoned, or there would have been an "accident" IMO.

--sjkted

Many ways to skin a cat. It could be that events needed to be manipulated so that a "solution" could be arrived at by the opposition to Mubarak. The game is played at many levels with multiple goals in mind. My guess is that his billions are incidental. Think: 9/11 as a theft/ burning of the reichstag/ asbestos demolition/ Insurance scam/ Occult ritual..etc..etc..

[Shairia]

All the armed forces generals are trained and financed by the US government. This is standard operating procedure in countries where we have many strategic military bases. Look particularly at the Free Officer movement, they have always been the force behind removal of Egypt's leaders and the installation of their VPs. This is the reason Mubarak did not have a VP, he was installed by this movement and knew how they operated, it was his biggest fear during his reign. He knew of the dangers of the armed forces military commanders and my guess is that is why he chose Sulieman as his VP, a state funded organization, the secret police (equivalent to the CIA and in fact trained at Langley).

Check out the protest section of the link I posted regarding food riots and the takeover of the TV building, sound familiar? This is the blueprint and the only one the Egyptian people, but particularly the military leaders of Egypt know. The people are more connected to the army because most of their children, relatives and neighbors are required to either join the army or enter the police force. Even the ranks of the army are not in agreement with their own leaders as is usually the case due to class divisions and corruption.

Was this a military coup, most definitely and a smart one at that with the least amount of bloodshed as one could imagine. Were the military generals led by the US or CIA? Maybe, but the blueprint for a regime change was already there, possibly the US prevented another assasination due to concerns for their strategic interests in the country and convinced the leaders of the armed forces that this would be the fastest and most effective way to take over the leadership of Egypt.

[PathWalker]

The mechanisms of power transfer is not controlled by public opinions. Public opinion is a catalyst and smoke screen to internal Byzantine court politics.
Everywhere always. It is never the people but TPTB.

[Ahkenaten]

yup - what better solution to a real problem ( a broad non-ideological grass-roots movement in this oil-rich strategic region) then facilitating the ouster of the person the people were demanding step down and replacing him with a military beholden to the US govt, LED by a CIA made-man.

[Ba-ba-Ra]

Many ways to skin a cat. It could be that events needed to be manipulated so that a "solution" could be arrived at by the opposition to Mubarak. The game is played at many levels with multiple goals in mind. My guess is that his billions are incidental. Think: 9/11 theft/ burning of the reichstag/ asbestos demolition/ Insurance scam/ Occult ritual..etc..etc..

Many levels is right - and sometimes I think that the PTB aren't sure who is on what team. We know there are double agents and triple agents and maybe it goes on and on.

I agree with Ahkenaten that the US was surprised by what happened in Egypt, but then saw an opportunity to take advantage. However, I'm also sensing from what I'm hearing from the Egyptian people that they are more aware and awake about what's happening and are not easily going to fall prey to U.S. (military) tactics. I do hope I'm right.

P.S. Ahkenaten I can't PM you. Can you PM me with your phone Number.

[sjkted]

I agree with Ahkenaten that the US was surprised by what happened in Egypt, but then saw an opportunity to take advantage. However, I'm also sensing from what I'm hearing from the Egyptian people that they are more aware and awake about what's happening and are not easily going to fall prey to U.S. (military) tactics. I do hope I'm right.


It's hard to know what to believe as this one doesn't follow the same pattern as ones we've already seen (USSR, Iran, etc.) but there does seem to be some credibility to the US being surprised. I've heard several times from the Al Jazeera feed that the people on the street are saying repeatedly they will not accept any "authority/establishment" figure such as ElBaradei to be their President.

--sjkted

[Ahkenaten]

I agree with Ahkenaten that the US was surprised by what happened in Egypt, but then saw an opportunity to take advantage. However, I'm also sensing from what I'm hearing from the Egyptian people that they are more aware and awake about what's happening and are not easily going to fall prey to U.S. (military) tactics. I do hope I'm right.


It's hard to know what to believe as this one doesn't follow the same pattern as ones we've already seen (USSR, Iran, etc.) but there does seem to be some credibility to the US being surprised. I've heard several times from the Al Jazeera feed that the people on the street are saying repeatedly they will not accept any "authority/establishment" figure such as ElBaradei to be their President.

--sjkted

The problem for the Street is the popular esteem in which the Egyptian military seems to be held by the people buttressed by its "restraint" in using force during the recent troubles. So the perfect solution to those seeking to control Egypt is now through the military.........as we can see if the military had NOT exercised restraint, all bets would have been off as to outcome.

[sjkted]

The problem for the Street is the popular esteem in which the Egyptian military seems to be held by the people buttressed by its "restraint" in using force during the recent troubles. So the perfect solution to those seeking to control Egypt is now through the military.........as we can see if the military had NOT exercised restraint, all bets would have been off as to outcome.


And when the military's reputation turns to dirt, we are left with a French style revolution.

--sjkted

[Northern Boy]

Never let a crisis go to waste

We all know who uttered this statement . He is running for mayor of Chicago.

Soros was in on this and many other up risings going on in the middle east . yes the power structure at the top is fractured and infighting is going on with how to deal with us . Protest was peaceful for the most part but I can`t help but feel it was controlled to the point of peaceful non violence.

The military normally would have tried to crush resistance not this time . Are they attempting to gently persuade an awakening mass populatuion to accept change of leaders but retain the controllers ? It may be.

Howis Mybarktree was the first he may know stuff that they don`t want released ( he may be pissed off) so something may have suddenly happened to him to incapacitate him

[king anthony]

Iran 1953...

[Cottage Rose]

or.................general unrest over economic issues was used as a pretext for inserting a military dictatorship......and that particular military depends on an annual infusion of billions of dollars in US aid

So, if I understand you correctly, you think that it is a possibility that the military created the protests?

I find that a bit hard to swallow. The protesters consisted of the young and old, men, women and children, the whole population and they risked everything. There are still hundreds missing. A large amount of people were tortured.

I can't really put it into words but I just can't imagine that it was part of a military strategy to take over the country.

I agree. I am in in the US and very good at reading faces. Look at Obama's expressions (disregard what he is saying, that is all BS). In my opinion many situations have slipped out of control and they are worried. They will try to regain control, but will they succeed? They are very adept at turning anything to their own advantage. Let's hope their achilles heel has arrived.


The beginning is near.

[PathWalker]

If the current crisis in Egypt is to be resolved peacefully, the military will play a central role.

Few if any outside the armed forces, however, truly understand the Egyptian military. The following is an attempt to begin the process of better understanding this crucial institution.

The Egyptian army is very different from the American army. It is an institution – largely self-sustained through enterprises such as farms, factories and hospitals – with the dual purposes of defending the nation against external threats and preserving domestic stability. It considers itself the defender of the people, a view widely shared in the society at large. It performs the function of a national guard as well as that of a national army.

read the full article here: http://www.jpost.com/Features/InThespotlight/Article.aspx?id=208562

[sjkted]

Very interesting. I read the article and it would be a nice change of pace to see a group with national pride and sovereignty start to take over, if they have not been infiltrated.

--sjkted

[Ahkenaten]

Very interesting. I read the article and it would be a nice change of pace to see a group with national pride and sovereignty start to take over, if they have not been infiltrated.

--sjkted

It i s highly unlikely that they have NOT been infiltrated - $2 billion annually in aid from the US is a lot of leverage and translates into lots of wages and lots of materiel

[steve_a]

Hi Northern Boy,

It's clear that the president of Egypt had to go. He was going to go anyway. He is riddled with cancer and quite old, so as parr for politics, he was kicked just as any wounded dog, when he was down. There are news reports of him being in a German hospital in a coma - he was a frequent visitor to Germany for treatment for his cancer.

The demostrations were orchestrated with the backing of the US, but from the local peoples' point of view it was their protests that ousted the thirty year reign of the guy. Whatever.

I'm not too sure if it was a Coup d'État as such, but now that the military has the power, I'm sure that the generals are beginning to taste money and privilages and now it will become a little more difficult to pass the power along to another civillian entity.

Best regards,

Steve



http://www.lewrockwell.com/celente/celente63.1.html



Previously by Gerald Celente: Revolutionary Fervor to Spread Beyond Arab States; Europe Next

http://www.lewrockwell.com/celente/celente62.1.html





By Gerald Celente

The Egyptian people in Liberation Square celebrated, the world leaders weighed in, and the global media parroted the tale of "history in the making." The big bad Hosni Mubarak has "listened to the voices of the Egyptian people" and has bowed to their demands to finally end his 30-year presidential rule.

On February 11th, the news came in a brief statement made by freshly anointed Vice President Omar "Egypt is not ready for democracy" Suleiman: "In these grave circumstances that the country is passing through, President Hosni Mubarak has decided to leave his position as president of the republic. He has mandated the Armed Forces Supreme Council to run the state."

Following the announcement, Nobel Prize recipient (and the West’s favorite opposition leader and George Soros man) Mohamed ElBaradei said it was the "greatest day" of his life and that "the country has been liberated."

The "greatest day" was summed up in a USA Today headline: "Mubarak resigns; military takes over in Egypt."

Trends Journal subscribers didn’t have to wait until February 11th to know the outcome of this "history in the making." In our February 1st Trend Alert we forecast:

As we will see in Egypt, military coups will be disguised as regime changes. Already the public is being conditioned to view the Egyptian military as beloved liberators. But in fact they are simply another arm of the autocratic government, no more familiar with democratic ideals than the dictator they replace...who had himself been drawn from the ranks of the military.

to read the rest follow the Celente 63 link at the top of the page

[Northern Boy]

I`m not saying it was. I believe it was orchestrated Steve. It is no fluke that The so called opposition leader and former Nobel prize winner and UN flunky showed up at the same time./ There seems to be such an occasion when ever there is a crisis . Todays Hot spots are Libya , Yemen Bahrain not to mention it is about to get real ugly in Eygpt.............. stay tuned

[Shairia]

I`m not saying it was. I believe it was orchestrated Steve. It is no fluke that The so called opposition leader and former Nobel prize winner and UN flunky showed up at the same time./ There seems to be such an occasion when ever there is a crisis . Todays Hot spots are Libya , Yemen Bahrain not to mention it is about to get real ugly in Eygpt.............. stay tuned

No coincidence at all, the surprise to those who arranged this is that the Egyptian people wanted no part of him taking power either. I imagine there was a little scrambling to find someone they would accept, i.e, the army.

[Northern Boy]

i had occasion to watch a small part of CBS Face The Nation last Sun the American administration is tripping all over themselves trying to take credit for Mubarack`s decision to step down . They were not involved at all. The interviewer had on a n Egyptian i forget his name . He asked this Egyptian what if any help he though America could give Egypt in moving forward . The Egyptian guy laughed and responded " do you want the politicly correct version or the truth" adding "the US has supported this regime for 30 yrs now we no longer require their assistance"

[NinjaPhil]

This whole situation has clearly either been manufactured or taken advantage of. I still get the impression that there's a whole side to this that I'm still not seeing.

I also wonder if this is a manufactured solution whether they may have bitten off more than they can chew by inspiring other nations populations to what could be similarly done using power of the people. Then again, maybe that inspiration too is intended...

[jjl]

While that may be true, the look on the face of the people was not manufactuerd. I think this greased little pig got away from TPTB


This whole situation has clearly either been manufactured or taken advantage of. I still get the impression that there's a whole side to this that I'm still not seeing.

I also wonder if this is a manufactured solution whether they may have bitten off more than they can chew by inspiring other nations populations to what could be similarly done using power of the people. Then again, maybe that inspiration too is intended...

[sjkted]

It i s highly unlikely that they have NOT been infiltrated - $2 billion annually in aid from the US is a lot of leverage and translates into lots of wages and lots of materiel


Yes, but there's still the issue of hearts and minds. Money can't always buy this.

--sjkted

[TigaHawk]

You never know maybe Mubarak pissed someone off ..... maybe someone is lusting after the billions he stashed here and there.


This is a lot of commotion for a simple power grab. If he pissed someone off, he would have been assassinated, poisoned, or there would have been an "accident" IMO.

--sjkted


Like how he's suddenly in a coma, perhaps?? :cool:

[NinjaPhil]

While that may be true, the look on the face of the people was not manufactuerd. I think this greased little pig got away from TPTB



I'd have to agree... wonder where this is going next? Military ruling things is a recipe for bad in the mid-long term.

[bennycog]

did not want to start another thread on this not sure if it needs it though..

i am sitting in an airport and see the libya demsonstrations escalating now.. what phase would we call this?

[sjkted]

Like how he's suddenly in a coma, perhaps??


Could be either because he's disposable or because he knows too much. There's way too much going on with the protests to say this one guy stepped on the wrong person's toes. End of story.

--sjkted