TMI trauma, human machine interfaces

[johnf]

Although this whole area of thought started from the Chazz (no disrespect intended my childhood next door neighbor was called that) material, it concerns a more general topic.

First thing that happened was watching James Horaks analysis of the Charles interview.(I apologize for not having a link to reference this particular video). His analysis helped me focus on who Charles really is, and helped remove some doubts and predjudices that were still floating around concerning Charles's messages. It uncovered a lot of compassion for what Charles is going through and
reinforced the feeling there there are some high vibrational intentions coming from his being here. Then I read some mentions of the machine that Charles interfacd with and some of the ramifications of that.

Then going back and trying to get a better grip on James Horaks message, I heard him talk in one of his videos about the EMV's around the sun and the idea that they are run by a power that has the responsibility of protecting this planet from Solar events , or likewise letting these solar events plow under the failed experiment. He said that the line that will never be allowed to cross is interfacing
people with machines to the extent of taking away their free will.

This idea also involves the genetic engineering topic , nanotechnology etc.
I was just enjoying a time period of mental peace after a long bout with negative emotions. This last year has been a roller coaster ride that includes vacillation between thinking we have passed the danger zone for being trimmed back in numbers to thinking that we just can't pull the world out of it's downward spiral.
Regardless of a deeply held belief that we will all be alright no matter what happens. There is a lot of concern about the purposeful devolution of mankind.
I would appreciate any insights , links to info on how this type of activity is being exposed and halted, or evidence that it is just a plan that is so flawed it will fail on it's own.

[9eagle9]

This is basically part opinion and part of human observance but something I wanted to kick around. Glad you brought it up. . The interaction with a machine has a lot of ramifications. The first one I thought of was Charles stating he became ill after exposure to a machine. To me that sounds like a contract was made during the time of the event-- one that eventually expressed itself as a physical manifestation of emotional trauma....(without going into psyche analyzing) ..That would be good news for Charles by the way in terms of erradicating the disease.

The iffy part is if the machine has a consciousness, artificial or not. A human interaction with such a machine could subconsciously make an agreement with the machine that would have some long term and disabling effects if one were not careful, and not aware of the sort of contracts humans make around pre existing trauma, and trauma inflicted by the actual experience.

If the machine were not of a consciousness nature, a human depending on the level of trauma endured would make a subconscious agreement or a one ended contract. Reinforce or ignite possibly a sort of negative value in them. The free will isn't taken away, ....the human makes the unconscious choice to make an agreement or contract around the event.

a contract would work sort of like this: If I said "John F, I am going to hook you up to this machine for a few hours , and its weird and mysterious and it may kill you ...or maybe not. Probably not...but it will be painful."

You most likely from that moment begin to enter into a contract (thought or belief) as you sit in the hot seat of the machine:

This going to be painful, traumatic and that is what it will be. IN actuality its me that has initiated a response in you by prejudicing you, the painful experience with the machine reinforces it. And who knows maybe machine interface is set up that way just to serve such a purpose...hmmm.

Not to mention a machine of that nature is probably start buzzling some inner emotional values that are already there. Loss of authority, loss of control. Being hooked up to something you don't quite understand is traumatic. Its going to dredge up all sorts of pre existing issues about previous loss of control, loss of self authority, pre existing victimization and the zillion other times when we had something unwillingly imposed on us. A machine that interfaces with our psyche is going to stir up pre existing negative crud in our psyche.

In either case the humans walk away with some long term trauma associated with the machine. Since an agreement is made at that time it remains in place until one breaks it. The machine facilitated the trauma but didn't cause it. Contributed to it perhaps. The response is what causes it. Not a crossing of free will ...

I've seen people do this with artificial constructs a lot on a dimensional level and on a physical level. A contract is a contract and construct is a construct. If humans came to the point where they realized their own inner resources and dredged out the inner landscape the chances of this sort of interface could occur in a much less damaging way.

[vibrations]

9eagle9
The analysis you made is brilliant. The belief system is the most powerful thing which creates absolutely everything. I believe (funny) that a belief system is a base for all material existence. I know it's difficult to understand that a rock is a rock because of a general belief system, but we are just not (yet) able to understand the complexity of the Universal forces, fields, textures or whatever you call them. I enjoyed reading yours and johnf's post.

[johnf]

Thanks 9eagle9,
The bottom line is how well we have dealt with our fears, beliefs and subconscious agreements.
That will set the stage for the outcome of any relationship, whether is is with spirit, humane or machine.
Chances are thought forms can probably reject nano forms at a high enough level anyway. so the whole obect is to keep clearing out our own inner
world and excersizing our own creative power. I go through cycles on this where I read somethnig negative and it bothers me for a few days or so
then I am all caught up in the positive possibilities of these times.