Making a stand- Free Energy commentary

[Luke]

This thread is a spin-off of the Wade Frazier thread.

As it is dedicated to making a stand within confines of the current system - which is contrary to Wade's philosophy, I make a different thread as to not derail the discussion.

Original thread is here: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet/

[Merkaba360]

Hi Wade -

Thanks so much for your commitment here and in the circus of the past. Perhaps your purpose was to just live to tell about it. :)

You are every well spoken and have the depth of consciousness to really be practical/reasonable and yet see the foggy dream that really isn't so impractical ( no matter what the naysayers say who get their kicks out of being/appearing right).


So I was thinking about Dennis. It seems he has the ability and ambition to build some kind of mundane corporation producing some state of the art kitchen sinks or something. lol
It seems like he could have built a powerful corporate infrastructure before working on FE. So, once he had the headquarters with some underground lab with 10,000 cameras and security and 175 lawyers, then start working on the FE experiments.

Are u saying that these goons could just walk into say, microsoft and steal their stuff and harass the workers? It seems we need a large machine like that to protect itself before taking on such large endeavors. It just seems like he was such a brilliant entrepreneur, he could have made it big if he was focused on something harmless first.

Perhaps you guys were really just meant to be the "first wave" to break the ice on all this. Perhaps more up and coming geniuses are on their way with vivid dreams for a new wave or approach.

We can look back at some physics equations that have been applied to so many things, being a part of so many technologies we have today. Shouldn't there be some new math equations that shatter the old paradigms of physics? Don't we need this math foundation of proven equations to lead us into the new paradigm? Whether there are many types of machines being worked on, don't they all have some common math/physics theories? It seems the spreading of the math and physics behind this stuff would be one way to work on taking down the old guard.

So we obviously have these old boxed in scientists saying these things are impossible. That means some of their equations or theories are wrong. Are we working backwards? do we have the intuition to build these things but can't really show the new math on how the old physics is wrong or incomplete?

Once energy scarcity hits us much harder and the fake money scam is being exposed and all those skeptics start losing their fake wealth and come back down to my level - then perhaps you heroes will have much new support and open minds to have a chance. It isn't the 90's anymore with everyone happy and thriving off the fossil fuel system. Miracles happen when the pressure is on and many insiders realize they are just disposable sheep to the few in control, whoever or whatever the heck they are. lol

I hope thats clear enough to see where im trying to come from. Thanks so much Wade

[Luke]

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Are u saying that these goons could just walk into say, microsoft and steal their stuff and harass the workers? It seems we need a large machine like that to protect itself before taking on such large endeavors. It just seems like he was such a brilliant entrepreneur, he could have made it big if he was focused on something harmless first. (...)

Micro$not does not threaten the system. It supports it. Ergo no action against them will be sanctioned.

Go FE route and you will have every govt gun, hired gun and what not against you. Not to mention people that will be simply happy ripping you off. You are marked as a target of opportunity FOR EVERYBODY, simple as that.

Heart of the problem is the system everybody is dependent on.

All DIY tinkerers fail to understand the rules of the game they are in.

Seriously people, READ what it is written in this thread, in Wade's articles, in the interview, before making any "clever" statements.

[Merkaba360]

These dark ones seem to have all the advantages, although im sure that's somewhat illusory.

I have this fantasy about being a powerful shaman/wizard/highly evolved being annoying the hell out of these dark ones with pranks and antics they can't even comprehend. lol

Then i wonder, where are all these jedi's. It seems the "buddhas" don't get involved in the drama and face off with them. The Anastasia books out of Russia give me some hope and warm feeling that there might just be some incomprehensible beings creating some major problems for TPTB.

It really pisses me off to believe that they can just go walk all over or kill anybody they want, when they want. THere has to be a way to be untouchable/immune. Whether it is very self defeating for TPTB to kill "buddha" (or something on that order that can heavily impact human society) or those beings are protected by aliens who will cut off some galactic trade for messing with them. lol It sounds crazy, but it seems there must be some power plays on a galactic level that limits the ability of TPTB to just do anything they want.

If u are one with nature it seems hard for anyone to derail that. Sure, the source might decide to allow itself to be overcome.

Here's the paradox to me. We are all source, seemingly acting separate. So source is doing all things. On the other hand there is the idea that source or God(head) is indifferent and doesn't interfere. So, the mystery is what is interference? The Charles material gets into this conundrum.

My heart tells me that sovereignty is our (spiritual) nature. Perhaps thats just true for the whole and not the individual. When i read about your story , It gets me dreaming about how can sovereignty really be attained in this dimension? If that could be attained first, then there would be a comfy environment to work on FE or whatever.

Just thinking out loud. No response expected :)

[Merkaba360]

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Are u saying that these goons could just walk into say, microsoft and steal their stuff and harass the workers? It seems we need a large machine like that to protect itself before taking on such large endeavors. It just seems like he was such a brilliant entrepreneur, he could have made it big if he was focused on something harmless first. (...)

Micro$not does not threaten the system. It supports it. Ergo no action against them will be sanctioned.

Go FE route and you will have every govt gun, hired gun and what not against you. Not to mention people that will be simply happy ripping you off. You are marked as a target of opportunity FOR EVERYBODY, simple as that.

Heart of the problem is the system everybody is dependent on.

All DIY tinkerers fail to understand the rules of the game they are in.

Seriously people, READ what it is written in this thread, in Wade's articles, in the interview, before making any "clever" statements.

I might have short fuse these days, but any further deterioration of the discussion will not be tolerated..


Thanks for the response Luke. I think you misunderstand what im getting at. Perhaps i worded it incorrectly.

I have read thru 80% of the thread. I understand microsoft is not on our side. What i read was that the goons can just raid labs. But im wondering how they can get away with it if it was a large corporation that was on our side.

Im just theorizing if Dennis could have pulled off a large corporation first not having to do with FE. So , we can call it Dennisoft. From there im curious how they would be able to take them out. It seems it would end up with a lot of publicity and be problematic for TPTB. Just trying to think up a defense.

I just think we can think up scenarios and try to find their weak spots

[Come As You Are]

We could start by getting the individual to become one with the whole, then our sovereignty is one. We are one. They are legion.
Maybe God is not indifferent, just currently disintegrated. When oneness is returned, it's not a matter of interference. It's a matter of what will be done.
You think loud!!



My heart tells me that sovereignty is our (spiritual) nature. Perhaps thats just true for the whole and not the individual. When i read about your story , It gets me dreaming about how can sovereignty really be attained in this dimension? If that could be attained first, then there would be a comfy environment to work on FE or whatever.

Just thinking out loud. No response expected :)

[9eagle9]

I tend to think that's what are sovereignty is, our spiritual self authority. Claim it and keep claiming it and you become imperviouser and imperviouser.

MY BIL headed a project to create a secure system for Homeland Security several years back at the cost of millions to the tax payer. When he walked into present his secured system, Bill Gates was in the presentation meeting as well. . My BIL threw the presentation in the trash and walked out. . He knew he'd lost before he even started (and wasted millions) the moment he seen Gates there. He was a diversion essentially . Quite bitter he was too.