Quickening

[Luke]

This is thread to discuss personal extra and intra-sensory experiences not directly related to Charles phenomenon

[edina]

I'm going to give this thread a reboot. I felt several days ago, perhaps last week, I really do have trouble telling what day I am in, anyway, I felt this subject of manifesting our abilities was ready to become revisited. Didn't follow up on that feeling.

Today, I was looking at some things by Heather and ended up revisiting this entire thread. I had missed the earlier Thanks by Atticus, see below quotes.

"RE: Atticus answer to a question
A: I was bread for purpose.
And left to fend for myself ,while they dealt me every misfortune.
When I got to where I should,they took me in.
Oh and the abilities thing is another thread definitely,not because I'm great at it,but because it's a big subject and something most of you will benefit from."


By Twinnick 01.25.11, "I think Charles has maybe had some help or education on how to switch on some of the (junk) dna or a key of sorts.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?11936-Charles-Abilities&p=107662#post107662

By Shezbeth: 01.25.11 Pardon me. Adveristy, necessity, survival.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?11936-Charles-Abilities&p=107115#post107115

Both thanked by Atticus on 01.26.11

I understand he will be setting up his own website so the people who want, can do more work, than play. However, this set up will take some time.

Many people here are expressing an sense of urgency that we need to make things happen. So, in the meantime I thought people may want to once again revisit this topic.

Especially in light of the Atticus Chatroom dialogue that Thunderbird (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?14388-WARNING-Cussin-on-Avalon-Chat-with-Atticus&p=143144#post143144) posted.

It's possible to me, that some of this work involves developing our natural abilities as well as very practical actions for human solidarity. It can't hurt and it gives many of us something constructive and positive to do with ourselves, while we wait for the website to get set up.

I don't see this as a 20 questions game again, where we are looking for hints, per a Thanks from Atticus. But, rather, let's see what is already here, especially in the experiment Atticus played with jookyle. (See Atticus Chatroom dialogue (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?14388-WARNING-Cussin-on-Avalon-Chat-with-Atticus&p=143144#post143144))

So many people here have been experiencing sensations and experiences that when you consider this topic, looks as if we are becoming sparked so to speak, perhaps jump started in our natural abilities.

I really hope that if this topic takes off again, it will one where people work together, cohesively,

[edina]

One of the things I noticed from the chat was the physical sensations that people expressed that they were feeling when Atticus was playing with the experiment.

These sensations are also similar to the spontaneous sensations people have been describing for the past few weeks.

Another interesting observation about the experiment was the questions that Atticus asked before he chose a person, and an experiment for that person.

Now, then, couple this with the comment by Twinnick about "junk" dna,

the comment from Shezbeth about "Adversity, necessity, survival"

And Atticus' comment about "it's a big subject and something most of you will benefit from"

Where does this take you?

How does this open up things inside of you?

Imagine how this can become a benefit?

[edina]

I've bi-located, once, ... okay maybe twice. :o

But, I'm thinking more along the lines of how jookyle felt when receiving from Atticus.

Also, I've discovered for myself in the last few days, that some of these sensations are not necessarily being generated outside of me.
It is more like how my particular body/sensate system identifies the flow of certain energies.

And when you think of the benefits, remember the question Atticus asked about feeling people when they look at them. He was searching out a natural expression, and perhaps simply amplifying what already exists.

I can certainly see the benefit of being able to feel energetically the intention of another person toward me, long before they arrive in my physical vicinity.

[Carmody]

Pardon me. Adveristy, necessity, survival.

Yes, indeed.

Tell me about it.

[Lord Sidious]

Truely, those who can look past such things as "formatting" are the only ones who need to read my posts anyway.
Excuse me sirs but i do feel as though i was targeted for something rather silly and unimportant.
There are others with many typographical errors or one liner comments and I'm singled out for not putting enough spaces in my post?


Sowelu, don't feel ''targetted'' even though the wording in Scott's post could have been more diplolmatic.
Yeah, yeah, I know, me talking about diplomatic.
Anyways, I wanted to let you know that I skipped your post, even though I wanted to know what you said. I have an issue with my eyes that I can't read a wall of text on a computer screen, so I skip them, regardless of the topic.
If I do persist, I get a type of dyslexia where I can't figure out what I am reading.

Let me finish by saying that on this forum, the mods/admins only target troublemakers and I doubt they consider you that.
Scott was trying to be helpful, both for you and the rest of us.

[edina]

In the past couple months I have experienced many sensations; some have been intense, some subtle, all strangely familiar and confusing at the same time. I have also started to realize that not only do I "pick up" on others emotions, I take the energy on myself (as I am sure many of you experience). I am excited to discover my hidden abilities, we must all have different ones? I feel like I need to focus on my intuition and possibly healing? There is a problem for me and it is this:

Each time that I feel the tingling sensation, or the walls start to look wavy, anything like this and I get this overwhelming FEAR that literally overcomes my body. I feel like this Fear is blocking my ability to see the truth, to see things as they are because truly... I am not afraid... so why the fear? I have sought many ways to overcome this and I have not yet been able to bring myself to sit in it and feel it. I feel like the point at which I can sit in my fear I may be able to transcend it.

I wanted to share for anyone else struggling with the fear, or any other aspect of this process.

I no longer live in fear
I live in the light

kamarie

I wonder if anyone here has heard of Machelle Wright Small, she writes about communicating with Nature Intelligence, she's the founder of Perelandra, and her first book that many oldtimers may remember is "Behaving as if the God in All Life Mattered." She wrote another book called the Mt Shasta Mission.

One of the interesting phenomena that she described in that story was how people's bodies registered things that people were not consciously aware of. Some bodies handle this better than other bodies. However, anytime our current world view is challenged, the body reacts.

Think of the body as a host to the soul. The body has its own consciousness, and the soul has one, too. And then there is also the Spirit, these are not all the same.

The Soul may be completely comfortable with what is going on, however, the body may need some help adapting.

Machelle uses flower essences to help people stabilise their electric systems during these sorts of events.

What your describing here moonlightshines sort fits what she was describing. Deep peace to you, from my heart to yours, :o

[Carmody]

I once stayed a while on an ashram.
The guru who will remain nameless did manifest objects from the thin air, produced lingams from his mouth.

Later it was claimed he was a fraud I have no opinion on this.

It was explained to me that it was the energy of the over whelming love of the devotees that gave the guru the power to carry out the manifestations, the guru was powerless with out the followers.
I have no opinion on that either but I do know that we all have"special" abilities.
Put no head above your own always applies.

Chris

There is some solid truth to this, in my direct experience. Some can have innate capacity and accept from those who offer..and then some can give to others. Force multiplies, and it's a non linear increase.

What the spiritual dynamics of that are, beyond that...I've no specific Idea. I know a young woman I'd take to see that, as she can see spirits, to some degree. I'm sure she could hone it. But likely not (with regard to letting her be), as that can head into insanity for some. It is a tricky area, at best, as it straddles two worlds.

[greybeard]

I once stayed a while on an ashram.
The guru who will remain nameless did manifest objects from the thin air, produced lingams from his mouth.

Later it was claimed he was a fraud I have no opinion on this.

It was explained to me that it was the energy of the over whelming love of the devotees that gave the guru the power to carry out the manifestations, the guru was powerless with out the followers.
I have no opinion on that either but I do know that we all have"special" abilities.
Put no head above your own always applies.

Chris

There is some solid truth to this, in my direct experience. Some can have innate capacity and accept from those who offer..and then some can give to others. Force multiplies, and it's a non linear increase.

What the spiritual dynamics of that are, beyond that...I've no specific Idea. I know a young woman I'd take to see that, as she can see spirits, to some degree. I'm sure she could hone it. But likely not (with regard to letting her be), as that can head into insanity for some. It is a tricky area, at best, as it straddles two worlds.

Problem also is people confuse the magical and special gifts as a signn of spiritual mastery or at least an advanced soul.
Its not necessarily the case,
Met some brilliant clairvoyants who were far from loving in their actions.

Some of the adepts of the dark path can also do amazing things.
Beware of wolves in sheep's clothing.

Who know where we are headed on anything.
Chris

[9eagle9]

Agreed Chris.

Putting a professionals hat on here instead of member hat.

Reading some of these posts has alternately made me raise my brow, made my hair stand on end, and bulge my eyes. For the sake of all, please SOMEONE, if folks are going to be dabbling in this sort of thing , get some trained and well versed guidance in psychic expression. Giving and receiving. Receiving sounds nice but I hazard not as many people are prepared for the implications of it. If you get involved in this sort of thing with Charles likely you will stay involved long after Charles is gone. And then how will you know what to trust?

BEFORE you start being on the receiving and giving end of the spectrum here. I'm not suggesting anyone has done anything wrong, indeed its the responses of people that are clearly not educated in transmutation of energy that is bound to cause problems and not the sender . Libido tingler up there about brought me to my knees because I've worked on a few people that had their libido tingled....before it short circuited and plugged into something not altogether so nice. Or stolen altogether.. There are people who are immune and unaffected by the various levels of psychic conduct but they've invested a lot of spiritual realization and ego softening in becoming that way. How psychic phenom operates at different levels of our existence and how it operates at different illusionary levels.

We leave energy signatures out here and there. Someone can direct something at you and it can and does get intercepted. How would any of you know that Charles has sent something to you?

Human collective conscious is easily tapped into by all manner of things well intentioned and....not. And they are very good mimickers. If you are not educated about psychic influences and more importantly about YOURSELF something posing as someone you 'think' you know can very well begin to tamper with you. HOw would you know the difference? What if it did something nastly crept and because you thought it was Charles he could be blamed. Conversely someone could send you something very beneficial and you may think its not because psy expression doesn't abide by our systems of morality. And when things are attached to you they are often times attached in a fashion that gives you a false sense of benevolence, good feelings and a false sense of power.

Vaccines don't come with labels that say , this is loaded with toxins and implants, and mercury and its bad for you. No something that is supposed to be all very good for us is packaged as such so we'll take it. And we do ....Even though its bad. GMO food doesn't come with warnings, we have to find out for ourselves. As it is above so it is below.

There is interference by the dark path people, and things on levels of existence that you are not aware of yet. There is no automatic divine protection because the worse enemy inside us that prevents us from divinely inspired abilities in the first place is inside of us. Our Ego. Most cases of what appear to be possession is some hapless persons ego inviting some crud in, or creating it from an inner trauma, or thought forms, because it posed as something it was not. The PTB don't have to interfere much on an energetic level if we are inviting that sort of thing for ourselves. As it is above so it is below.

This has nothing to do with intentions and spirituality or that we are all automatically protected in divine light. On one level we may be but most of this stuff backfires at the ego level. Once you open the door to something without knowing how to close it you have NO IDEA what YOUR ego will do with it. I witnessed people shoot themselves because some 'helpful 'psychic decided to give them some good news that the recipients ego mind twisted into something that was not so loving.

Ego interferes with psychic expressions coming and going and its THE primary bad guy, not ghosts, the PTB, Illuminati, ets, aliens, dead Aunt Edna, curses, ghouls, devils, or the even the people that sent the crap in the first place. Expression of psy ability is first learned through self responsibility. I refuse to teach anyone how to direct their abilities unless they've done some work on their ego. Its like handing someone a loaded gun that may go off now, in two years, or ten. Knowing how this illusionary world works is vital to keep you safe. Because the bs you see on TV is just that. It addresses one level of our reality--Hollywood and the mainstream medias desire to sensationalize and ego engage.

If not for yourself do it for your friends, family and spouses because I've pulled more crap off of innocent bystanders like children because their parents were happy-assholing around with something that had no concept of. Most of all do it for yourself.

Problem also is people confuse the magical and special gifts as a signn of spiritual mastery or at least an advanced soul.
Its not necessarily the case,
Met some brilliant clairvoyants who were far from loving in their actions.

Some of the adepts of the dark path can also do amazing things.
Beware of wolves in sheep's clothing.

Who know where we are headed on anything.
Chris

[Darla Ken Pearce]

Adversity, necessity, survival = lead to development of spirit, heart, and extra sensory perceptions. A very hard and difficult road but one that leads in the end, to self Mastery. There are many way to get there and each individual has bulldozed their way forward and into the light of a new day! Bravo! ~Bravo! ~ Bravo! `xoxox

[Darla Ken Pearce]

Well said. Thank goodness we are almost out of duality and can get back to real ideas and ways of being. The good vs evil, dark vs light, and all the rest will soon be gone. I so look forward to being REAL again or I should say living in a new perspective of reality where all colors of the rainbow are present and whether we realize it or not ~ all view and different perspectives contribute in ways ~ we may not see or understand for the betterment of all. Even when things appear not to be so.

[edina]

Thanks so much Chris (9eagle9) for your whole post.

I've been noticing a growing, natural, spontaneous increase in what
many people call abilities, especially in telepathy, empathy, and
sensations type experiences for over a year now. This seems to
be all quite natural to me.

This overall pattern has been growing long before Charles came on the scene.
I feel that Charles presence, as well as the presence of many other high
energy people here in this forum, are in a sense amplifying an already
naturally occurring phenomenon.

I hope people will continue to come here and share there experiences
and begin to collaborate together on what they are learning. It is happening
to so many of us. And IMO, this phenomenon is going to happen anyway,
it is happening, to people everywhere, and any thing we can do here
to bring this forward and into the light of healthy sharing and discussion
may very well smooth the growing pains for people elsewhere.

Everybody's happy. ;)

This is my hope anyway. I can see how learning
more about this is very beneficial across the board....of all humanity

[greybeard]

Taking it a step further along the same road
At one point in time I did bio enegy therapy which clears chakras of negative energy and is a wholesome therapy.
I found that with building up my healing energy using ChiGong exercises I could project energy and pull people off their feet, not all but those with ability to connect to that energy

I had one client who is a famous medium who had a TV series and has written books and in fact I am mentioned in one of them.

He had to come and see me monthly to get cleared of negative energies that he got through doing private medium ship for clients, in short he was being processed.
It was a difficult experience as he went through all kinds of agonies and emitted all kinds of strange sounds when this was going on.

I have also read books on tantric love making and found that I had the ability to make love at any distance and completely satisfy my parter of the time who was many miles away.

Yes all very exciting and then I was being made love to in the night by others uninvited. I put a stop to it.
When you know how it is easy to attract the unwary and gullible.
Many seductions for the spiritual traveler.
All this stroked my ego greatly.
Dangerous places attract the ego.
Beware of anything that makes you feel special, a cut above the rest.

I made the choice to concentrate on moving forward on the path of enlightenment.
Best thing I ever did

Chris

[Nortreb]

Taking it a step further along the same road
At one point in time I did bio enegy therapy which clears chakras of negative energy and is a wholesome therapy.
I found that with building up my healing energy using ChiGong exercises I could project energy and pull people off their feet, not all but those with ability to connect to that energy

I had one client who is a famous medium who had a TV series and has written books and in fact I am mentioned in one of them.

He had to come and see me monthly to get cleared of negative energies that he got through doing private medium ship for clients, in short he was being processed.
It was a difficult experience as he went through all kinds of agonies and emitted all kinds of strange sounds when this was going on.

I have also read books on tantric love making and found that I had the ability to make love at any distance and completely satisfy my parter of the time who was many miles away.

Yes all very exciting and then I was being made love to in the night by others uninvited. I put a stop to it.
When you know how it is easy to attract the unwary and gullible.
Many seductions for the spiritual traveler.
All this stroked my ego greatly.
Dangerous places attract the ego.
Beware of anything that makes you feel special, a cut above the rest.

I made the choice to concentrate on moving forward on the path of enlightenment.
Best thing I ever did

Chris
Many thanks for the powerful post, Chris.

Would it be fair to say that a few members of this forum who have or suspected they have unique abilities are being activated at this time since the arrival of Charles?

Or, does it coincide with the mystified/reported/alleged entry into the photon belt? :bolt:

Peace

[greybeard]

Eckhart Tolle in The Power of Now and A new Earth states that a new energy (new to us) is bringing a bout new state of consciousness that we are in the biggest step forward in the evolution of mankind since we left the sea, that the old consciousness, egoic, is fighting to survive, that we will see increased madness, that before this kind of change for the better , the present human consciousness is at its most dysfunctional.
Hence the grotesque murders, pregnant women killed, all perverse things.

To the good millions buy his books so consciousness is rising.

A 20 years back he would have been lucky to sell a thousand books, People are now ready to hear spiritual truth.

To get to your question, the changes are happening because the totality is bringing it about, nothing to do with an individual person.

The proton belt may be part of it

have a listen to the coast to coast interview it might really open your eyes its about energy shifts and the possibility of a change in consciousness brought about by the energy coming into our solar system.
Its a scientific view point

Chris


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNgUdg2NAmc&feature=player_embedded

[Carmody]

I'll take a quick shot at it, from a different angle. the rubber on the road technical.... and the multi-dimensional level.

I will explain for the physicist , scientist, man on the street... and the able psychic ---alike.



It seems we went into the 'galactic underworld' phase or stage, and it is if the eclipse cycle that Charles rode in on .....was part of that. When we hit the 11th of February 2011, my head just simply exploded with HF harmonic noise. The air around me seemed to change. My voice changed. And sounds changed. It was not specifically something like a humidity increase or differential, there was a definite ENERGY change. There's more to it than that, but I will say that I'm stepping into areas that people I know have a technical stake in, in the world of the mundane,and they make their lives and companies off this stuff, and it is in no way tied (knowingly) to spirituality.

What I'm saying is that I have solid, daily enacted, useful, technical, workable, done-every-day 'evidence' of what I'm saying but I'm getting into patents and non-disclosure agreements (NDA).

This is very real, folks, on all levels. IMO and IME. As in direct scientific and also psychic evidence. Logic, heart, body, mind, and soul. These are the levels I 'test' on. No halfway measures.

This can be associated with high frequency noise. I tested that one day, by sitting in a (comfy) chair and my dog was sleeping behind the chair. I started creating a very high frequency harmonic grunge in my 'mind' and kept amplifying it, to unbearable levels. Within seconds my Pup snorted awake and went upstairs to sleep away from me..as far as possible as she could get away from me, while still stuck in the house. I do single cause analysis experiments. that is the only way to keep the logic straight in this very complex matter. That is all I have done, for the past decade.

Apparently, (the evidence indicates) the way that higher dimensions interact with this one is to have their sub-harmonic integrational content BE the reality that we are and see..or 'look through' as 3D adventures of higher dimensional beings. this creates the holograph that we are. Our Holograph is now more complex.

It was announced recently that we now have new unknown particles emanating from the sun.

Since it is a high level of extreme frequency (amplitude, angular integration thus 'delta of integration') 2d waveforms integrating into this space, this is the origins of this holographic system and the fundamentals of how it works.

This is evident in how a holograph gets progressively lower in quality as it is broken into smaller and smaller pieces. That is the reason for the decrease in quality of a holograph. Fewer and fewer of the holographic 2d (frame or flat photos inter-spaced with one another in the complex dimensional sense) overlays are integrated into the 'knot' of energy harmonics that represent that 3d space or item/thing/person-energy.

As we hit the eclipse that Charles came in on (dec18th the interview) and the release of the interview (Jan 1, 2011) (the pair of eclipses) those two components sort of seem to have been the final additive or striking of the holographic energy flow (bell, or spin-vortex) that is spinning around and in this globe (complex dimensional ZPE) and we stepped up to the galactic underworld higher frequency state. Like progressively exciting a high harmonic bell, we seem to have stepped into this far more complex holographic space, and this more/greater information is available to us with regard to the capacity to reach out, integrate and KNOW.

This is simply due to the higher harmonic being more connected in it's complex structure so we and all around us is now..... a more complete and interconnected holographic representation. ie, closer to expressing a higher dimension.

This is supported in Inelia's statement that many of the lower dimensional 'feeders' have left the building as the energy levels are now too high... and at too high of a harmonic for their comfort. They simply cannot exist in this high energy harmonic condition.

Bells are used to ward off unwanted spirits for this exact reason. The high frequencies added into the air causes ionization and this separates them from the backdrop of their capacity to exist in the given place, and thus they are forced to leave or diffuse.

When we strike that bell (or BE as that high harmonic -both levels, 3D and dimensional)...We disturb the complex ZPE dimensional holographic backdrop that they enter our space on and in...when we excite the air and break their dimensional grip on that space. When you strike the bell, you listen...and then be the note...and carry the note in your mind.. and thus into dimensional space, emanating from your complex holographic knot that is your personal multidimensional self. The door works both ways.

This is the why of the bells and the ringing of hand held bells--- to clear a room of unwanted influence. The reason behind prayer bowls, the way that the 'looking glass' system described by Dan Burisch, the essence of what it is doing-- is tied to this. The Nazi Bell. and on and on. All the same at the fundamental dimensional physics level.

Higher harmonics cleans out the lower dimensional energies. The hand held bells are handy as they can help you get the unwanted spirits and influences out and train you to remember the note, in your head..which becomes real, on the spiritual level. For recall, you are 'manifestation', not 'real' (as science of today thinks of real), so the remembrance and invocation in the mind of the note...is also as effective as the 3d bell itself.

Prayer bowls work wonders. This is a 'mini vortex' version of what is happening of the spinning earth right now. Which is my point about the 'galactic underworld' step up of energies. It is important to remember that it is not the "end of the world"* but a step up of energies..to a new level.

*(The one single Mayan calendar does 'end' but it is only one of theirs and even Calleman, one of it's main supporters in the past, says it is not 'the end'.)


Connective tissue: The PTB seemingly want all gold out of your hands. Gold is used to cure cancer these days. NANO gold tied to DNA drug carrier methods. Alchemy is all about nano gold, but done properly. Not big pharma ways. Bells rung will chase away spirits, and open dimensional portals. Read up on the works surrounding Ormus, Ormes, alchemy and David Hudson.

Question!:What are the best prayer bowls in the world made from?
Answer: gold.

Full circle... there it is, right in front of you. You just have to gather the data and sift through it.


Matter and space are vortexes of dimensional energies which is why prayer bowls (and bells) work, as it is a en excitation pattern like a mini 'looking glass'. The earth, in 3d space, is the same, as it is hit and struck by the energies from the planets, the sun, and the galactic core. This is how astrology can PREDICT potentials, for our holographic 3D reality is created from those high level interference patterns.

Look into the CZ method of crystal rod extraction for the production of silicon stock for the IC and solar cell industry. This is what you, individually, are, in this 3d space. The CZ method uses a 'seed stock' to slow draw and express a perfect crystal out of a spinning liquid bath of silicon.

You begin as a single cell, and a single point of DNA, and your 'crystal' is started (seeded) and this begins the specific shape of your given energies, and this is expressed in the tale or story of individual expression...your 'natal' astrology. How you integrate with and pass through this world, in time, what flows you may have to deal with, that is in your 'personal transits' (astrological transits).


The PTB, seemingly being tied to the lower dimensional energies that cannot express themselves in this higher harmonic.. they want you to think you are reaching a dead end (and thus bring your harmonics down again!--ego fear). For that is what it is coming to--for them. Not for us.

There is evidence that may have gone as far to mess up women's menstrual cycles and that of female mammals (and possibly more) all across the world. I'm getting reports from different people and about different species having issues due to this eclipse cycle, and it may be tied to this new energy level, that is now screaming in my head (but has died down in level since the 11th of February).

We can create a new wave, with this new energy.

Watch.. be careful... who and what you share that new energy with.

[bluestflame]

a good question might be who's more scared ? as we become more sensative and aware ,

ie what we are picking up on being the ones that have the most to lose with the high energies , and desperately trying to hang on

[TWINNICK]

G'day.

About a week ago I woke up with a cramp which I get every now and then, it is very uncomfortable and I had to get up and have a little salt with water which seems to calm it down.

After the little pile of salt washed down with water I started walking back and forth waiting for it to work, about a minute later I started to feel rather a strange sensation in the top of my head.

I got very dizzy and spun around to sit on the edge of the bed but just missed it and landed quite heavily on my tailbone on the hard floor, it hurt badly but the feeling in the top of my head increased and at the same time I had an incredibly strong prickly heat sensation run from my head to engulf my whole chest cavity, my face was burning.

I used all my concentration to lift myself off the floor and lay on my back on the bed whilst I endured this horrible sensation, I really felt I was being micro waved, it was so intense.

I concentrated really hard and quickly trying to work out what was happening whilst I also asked my divine family and higherself to stop the attack.

It started to subside about 1 minute later and the cooking sensation went away leaving the top of my head feeling as if I had just been scanned which lasted for about 24 hours.

I laid there for 5 minutes thinking it all through and wondered why I thought it was an attack, I had remembered we were talking about the machine, NNAAAAHH don't be silly I thought why would it or someone target me.

I am now fully aware that I have a different feeling in the top of my head, not as strong as at that moment when the incident occured but still there.

My sister says that I had a T.I.A ( mini stroke) there is a history of these in my family and I believe I had one many years ago when I worked in a stressful job.

This was very different, I really felt like I was being micro waved by ELF or something and my brain was being scanned.

It felt like something connected with me without my permission and very frightening at the time, it was very sudden and powerful.

I have thought about it a great deal since that day and while I have been reading the posts on Avalon in different areas I have been aware of a consiousness(spelling) that we are all being watched very closely.

Even now writing this out I feel a bit hot and uncomfortable, and reading the "CHAT" last night about Charles doing a little connection to some people there I wondered if this is what happened on that morning, maybe not Charles but something got into me and it wasn't very pleasant.

I only have my intuition to work with which I have been tuning into for years so I will go with that as always because I know it works for me, my higherself is watching over me which I call for it to do constantly.

I just thought I would tell my story, I'm not sure why.

..Nick..

[greybeard]

If we take it that the high energy is Love all the mystics say that, then love and any negative emotion are not compatible.

Anything that causes fear is not of love.

To be clear we more than ever have a choice and now more than ever the choice we make is vital to our well being, to journey of our soul.

Do your very best to get out of blaming or any negative emotion.
Do your very best to get into forgiveness and being kind to all sentient beings your self included.

The more you can raise your spiritual vibration by being kind the easier you will find being with what appears to be coming to us.

If you want a world full of arguing over very little, of friction and worse, then keep arguing, keep justifying your position, keep the other the enemy

If you want a different world------ be the change you want to see.
That is not a slogan, not a sound bite, but a truism.
If what some scientists are saying is correct we dont have long before we can use this window of opportunity and surf the new wave of positive energy.
We have to be ready.
If it dosnt happen, if there is no burst of life changing energy from the sun then we will have created a better world just by being better individually, thats our responsibility no one elses.
Please stop fighting, you owe it to your self. Your worth it.
Namaste
Chris

[Carmody]

a good question might be who's more scared ? as we become more sensative and aware ,

ie what we are picking up on being the ones that have the most to lose with the high energies , and desperately trying to hang on

The ego is afraid. There is no doubt of that. so we each have to deal with that point.

we have an individual ego ---and a global ego.

[777]

a good question might be who's more scared ? as we become more sensative and aware ,

ie what we are picking up on being the ones that have the most to lose with the high energies , and desperately trying to hang on

The ego is afraid. There is no doubt of that. so we each have to deal with that point.

we have an individual ego ---and a global ego.

Agreed. As above so below.

And much as we can only carry the responsibilty for our own ego, we have to recognise it's contributory importance as an integral shard of the global ego. This is where kindness, love and generosity are not just personal. The ripple effect of one small pebble can be felt universally, for it is part of the whole.

Lift those around you, even the lost ones.....in fact especially them. Most of all, lift yourself.......then the magic happens!

Some fantastic posts in this thread.

[edina]

Thanks Nick for sharing your story, I think many people here are having very similar experiences.
I don't think I felt microwaved, but I can identify with the description.

Also, in the very initial experience, I reacted at first as if I were attacked. This definetely felt like
something coming from outside of me. However, I also felt it wasn't an attack. Scanned seemed to be
the better word.

Lots of heat, increased energy transactions. I've discovered this is not entirely related to Charles.
And much of what I am experiencing now is often generated from within me.

Thanks again, Nick, for sharing your story, I am certain that many people here, when they read your story
will recognise some of their own recent experiences.

[Carmody]

I had the same situation myself. Nearly set my head on fire. You'll find my report on it in the 'Charles phenomena' thread. I did not know where it came from, but it is associated with this entire thing.

The impression of heat, was as great as holding my hand about 1 foot (on the side, not above) from a open stove electrical burner, on high and red hot. that much heat. This was in my right, or creative hemisphere. I can still vaguely feel it, at times.

[TWINNICK]

Thanks Nick for sharing your story, I think many people here are having very similar experiences.
I don't think I felt microwaved, but I can identify with the description.

Also, in the very initial experience, I reacted at first as if I were attacked. This definetely felt like
something coming from outside of me. However, I also felt it wasn't an attack. Scanned seemed to be
the better word.

Lots of heat, increased energy transactions. I've discovered this is not entirely related to Charles.
And much of what I am experiencing now is often generated from within me.

Thanks again, Nick, for sharing your story, I am certain that many people here, when they read your story
will recognise some of their own recent experiences.


G'day,

yeh this was definitely an outside influence, the heat in my upper torso was intense and I'm constantly aware of the top of my head(pineal gland ?) feeling like it is switched on or connected to something.

..Nick..

[Sensual One]

Ditto.

When posting on this subject matter I've felt an intense pressure on my skull and the very top of my neck. Very worrying to be honest.

[TWINNICK]

I had the same situation myself. Nearly set my head on fire. You'll find my report on it in the 'Charles phenomena' thread. I did not know where it came from, but it is associated with this entire thing.

The impression of heat, was as great as holding my hand about 1 foot (on the side, not above) from a open stove electrical burner, on high and red hot. that much heat. This was in my right, or creative hemisphere. I can still vaguely feel it, at times.


G'day,

Yup I'm aware of your post in the other thread, I like reading your posts.

It was a new experience for me to feel like I was being cooked with prickly heat, rather frightening for the minute or so it lasted but the top of my head during the episode was a different type of sensation, like being read by someone looking into my mind, I tried to stop it as quickly as I could but it was so strong I needed help to fight it off.

..nick..

[Atticus]

There is no need for alarm.
Relax no harm will come to you.
If you wish it to stop , do not come onto this thread.do not discuss the subject here.
It will stop in mins.
If you wish to continue but are quite overwhelmed by the feeling,the thing that works for most is a cold glass of water with a teaspoon of lemon juice.
This will quell the surging etc.
But I assure there is no danger what so ever.

[Icecold]

Ditto.

When posting on this subject matter I've felt an intense pressure on my skull and the very top of my neck. Very worrying to be honest.

I've been getting exactly the same thing. I've had it for 12 months and its due to ongoing awakening and the increasing planetary vibrations. If there is a such a thing as spiritual pressure, that's it.



Nearly set my head on fire

ROTFLMAO @ Carmody

[jjl]

There is no need for alarm.
Relax no harm will come to you.
If you wish it to stop , do not come onto this thread.do not discuss the subject here.
It will stop in mins.
If you wish to continue but are quite overwhelmed by the feeling,the thing that works for most is a cold glass of water with a teaspoon of lemon juice.
This will quell the surging etc.
But I assure there is no danger what so ever.

Thanks so much for the water lemon trick!

[TWINNICK]

There is no need for alarm.
Relax no harm will come to you.
If you wish it to stop , do not come onto this thread.do not discuss the subject here.
It will stop in mins.
If you wish to continue but are quite overwhelmed by the feeling,the thing that works for most is a cold glass of water with a teaspoon of lemon juice.
This will quell the surging etc.
But I assure there is no danger what so ever.


G'day atticus,

I'm ok, I'll be aware of it next time, it just came on so quickly that it took me by surprise and I only just woke up as well so I was a little groggy.

HHHmmmm so was that you or was that Phillipe, or maybe it was the machine plugging into me for some more info ?.

Whats with the hot prickly sensation in the chest ? thats freaky.

..Nick..

[9eagle9]

Knowing one's personal energy before expanding outwards is very important. Some of these harmful energies we are so used to, that when it occurs we have no idea. We want to drive the car before we have our own lisence. Or our own self owned discernment. If you can't feel the anomalies inside yourself how are you going to ID them in the greater expanses of a unlimited world.

One one hand this is an illusionary world. And so how can the 33 and the PTB be anything but part of that illusion. Certainly not a reality. I keep that in mind always, to get on a band wagon about this whole matter means I am further entrenching in illusionary matters. But as long as I am still in this illusion I know other illusions appear to have an influence. So I try to stay aware of illusions and what their impact may mean. The world is illusionary but that doesn't mean it doesn't have an impact on the way our psyches operated now. I had to do a lot of self healing to be able to observe and interact on different levels. If people are very dense in ego engagment I have to go down into that level and interact with them from that level because they have not quite accessed those less dense levels within themselves. However I KNOW when I am operating at ego level when I make the conscious choice to go there.

We are so used to our personal energies that we have no common frame of reference that something in there may be amiss. What is ego, what is wound,what is not.

I learned about an important lesson about knowing myself from virtual strangers. . For several months strangers would approach me, and ask me why I was so sad.

SAD?! I'd scoff. Not me, I'm happy as a lark. But after while this pattern of expression become so apparent I could no longer ignore it.

The first thing that happened was that I was amused. What these people think they know me better than myself? As it went on I grew offended. I AM happy why do people want to impose a state of sadness in me. I thought they were full of **** full of their own ego and actually trying to mess with me out of some nefarious reason or agenda.

But one day a trusted student said to me, "You are so sad, I hear nothing but children crying around you. It makes it hard to be around you sometimes, and I think that's why you keep yourself separated from people. " She corrected herself and said ,"you're not consciously sad, but there is a deep well of grief inside of you that is so deep and so old and you are so used to carrying it you don't even know it's there."

So I ruminated on that for a few days but still not getting it. One day. I was sitting quietly and not thinking of much and then I felt it. I WAS SAD. The depth of this grief amazed me, and it amazed me I had never felt it consciously before. And ...something was tampering in it. Leading me by the nose as it were to fulfill its own purpose. Indeed it fed off these lifetimes old sadness. It wasn't serving me, it was severing me. From myself, from the world, from God, from everyone. No wonder I kept myself away from people.

How would I have ever known if someone had not told me. How would I have ever known this is I hadn't gotten out of "FU, I'm right mode" and listened to what was told to me.

Perspective, perception, there's many of them and they exist in all of us. However we are rather like an elevator that stops at one floor and stays there.

As I noted to one member , Charles is already being blamed for their milk souring. Or he is responsible for the sun rising. But what happens when Charles is not around and the milk is still souring. Or the sun is still rising. You may have to confront the fact that what is occurring is coming from you.

To tie up your self identity with another person is a terrible imposition and burden on them--especially when your expectations eventually exceed their capacity to fulfill them. It also does one's self a great disservice.

[mymoonlightshines]

In the past couple months I have experienced many sensations; some have been intense, some subtle, all strangely familiar and confusing at the same time. I have also started to realize that not only do I "pick up" on others emotions, I take the energy on myself (as I am sure many of you experience). I am excited to discover my hidden abilities, we must all have different ones? I feel like I need to focus on my intuition and possibly healing? There is a problem for me and it is this:

Each time that I feel the tingling sensation, or the walls start to look wavy, anything like this and I get this overwhelming FEAR that literally overcomes my body. I feel like this Fear is blocking my ability to see the truth, to see things as they are because truly... I am not afraid... so why the fear? I have sought many ways to overcome this and I have not yet been able to bring myself to sit in it and feel it. I feel like the point at which I can sit in my fear I may be able to transcend it.

I wanted to share for anyone else struggling with the fear, or any other aspect of this process.

I no longer live in fear
I live in the light

kamarie

I wonder if anyone here has heard of Machelle Wright Small, she writes about communicating with Nature Intelligence, she's the founder of Perelandra, and her first book that many oldtimers may remember is "Behaving as if the God in All Life Mattered." She wrote another book called the Mt Shasta Mission.

One of the interesting phenomena that she described in that story was how people's bodies registered things that people were not consciously aware of. Some bodies handle this better than other bodies. However, anytime our current world view is challenged, the body reacts.

Think of the body as a host to the soul. The body has its own consciousness, and the soul has one, too. And then there is also the Spirit, these are not all the same.

The Soul may be completely comfortable with what is going on, however, the body may need some help adapting.

Machelle uses flower essences to help people stabilise their electric systems during these sorts of events.

What your describing here moonlightshines sort fits what she was describing. Deep peace to you, from my heart to yours, :o

Thank you! I am going to spend some time researching this today. Strange that you mention essence because I have had this overwhelming urge to get rose and lavender oils. I was reading about Mary Magdalen's anointing oils and I have had this unrelenting drive to get some... strange... so I will be doing that today as well... <3 <3 <3 kamarie

[InTheBackground]

It sounds like Kundalini rising with the heat, chakras opening with the whirling/twirling/buzzing/pressure sensations? IME.

I've been feeling these things and identifying them as something extraordinary (for me anyway) for the last thirteen years, but especially the last six. The last several months, the sensations have gone through the roof. The last several weeks? Constant, insistent. Energy swirls and buzzes in my palms and the soles of my feet. My ears are filled with a constant background high frequency whine. The pressure in my head is at my crown, in my forehead, pressure inward on the sides of my head. Another thing that may or may not be related -- I've always been an animal lover, but for some reason they are all over me now. My husband calls me the Pied Piper because dogs that are loose want to walk with me when I'm walking, and our own furbabies are glued to my side when I'm home.

I know I'm energy sensitive -- earth changes and storms affect me on a physical level -- but it has never been this constant. It may be just because there are so many global and cosmic events lining up right now, too?

[777]

It sounds like Kundalini rising with the heat, chakras opening with the whirling/twirling/buzzing/pressure sensations. IME.

Energy swirls and buzzes in my palms and the soles of my feet. My ears are filled with a constant background high frequency whine. The pressure in my is at my crown, in my forehead, pressure inward on the sides of my head.

I know I'm energy sensitive -- earth changes and storms affect me on a physical level -- but it has never been this constant?

Exactly how I'm feeling too, although the side of my head, inward pressure is largely temple based. My crown itches and tingles, I keep having to massage it and my palms are like an ache, especially the left one. I wonder if this is a kundalini blockage in some way.

All of this is constant for the last few weeks, with a massive increase in synchronous events. The heat rises when I log in this thread.

As a side note, my little furbaby has just jumped on my lap and gone mad as I type this. Coincidence? Nah.......

[Muzz]

There is no need for alarm.
Relax no harm will come to you.
If you wish it to stop , do not come onto this thread.do not discuss the subject here.
It will stop in mins.
If you wish to continue but are quite overwhelmed by the feeling,the thing that works for most is a cold glass of water with a teaspoon of lemon juice.
This will quell the surging etc.
But I assure there is no danger what so ever.

Thanks so much for the water lemon trick!

Wow. Had a really bad headache for 2 days now and my wife has been getting me to drink water with a slice of lemon in it( she's never done that before and doesnt read this site). Thats an eye opener. :secret:

[777]

Flashes of red in the vision anyone? (I mean actual, I'm not being metaphoric).

[jjl]

I am "with " of my own free will. We all can take this right for ourselves.

[777]

its just happening , you all have your own explanations , thats good its nice to know.
no harm done tho thats the main thing.

are these names you give this , explanations of the same thing?
or are you all agreeing to disagree and continuing in unison?

Atticus

What names? You mean like "kundalini" for example?

What's worth noting for me is that we're all having very similar experiences, defining with different semantics and language.

Your last question: I dare say we are yes.......

ps....love the avatar hehe! Perhaps too regal? Master may chastise your ego there. But that's part of the journey isn't it.

[jjl]

its just happening , you all have your own explanations , thats good its nice to know.
no harm done tho thats the main thing.

are these names you give this , explanations of the same thing?
or are you all agreeing to disagree and continuing in unison?

Atticus

I hope you understand that I want to continue and watch where you bring us.

[Atticus]

how did you learn these things Greybeard?

[Atticus]

the avatar was chosen for me....but yes quite right :)

[Carmody]

I like the avatar.

suits you. :p

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its just happening , you all have your own explanations , thats good its nice to know.
no harm done tho thats the main thing.

are these names you give this , explanations of the same thing?
or are you all agreeing to disagree and continuing in unison?

Atticus

As long as we see it from this side, and clarity is not there, we will continue to be separate... and give it 'names'. Not much else can be done, for the moment.

apologies for the edit. check that thanks and see if it's still suitable. :)


Pressure is going up again... :p one eye is starting to go off...slight split.

[moais]

i am lost here, can someone summarize to me what is happening in here?

i read that you feel pain if you post here, yes i want pain,

it has been sometime since I felt pain

[777]

I like the avatar.

suits you. :p

¤=[Post Update]=¤


its just happening , you all have your own explanations , thats good its nice to know.
no harm done tho thats the main thing.

are these names you give this , explanations of the same thing?
or are you all agreeing to disagree and continuing in unison?

Atticus

As long as we see it from this side, and clarity is not there, we will continue to be separate... and give it 'names'. Not much else can be one, for the moment.

Pressure is going up again... :p one eye is starting to go off...slight split.

Pressure very high.

I never know any more whether this is your dark humour (more please) or you're being serious. Quite a fun uncertainty really!

[Muzz]

My ears are filled with a constant background high frequency whine.
Me too. Had this for days now. Im glad I stumbled across this thread Ill need to jump back and read from the start. Wish I had more time surf this site!

[Carmody]

I like the avatar.

suits you. :p

¤=[Post Update]=¤


its just happening , you all have your own explanations , thats good its nice to know.
no harm done tho thats the main thing.

are these names you give this , explanations of the same thing?
or are you all agreeing to disagree and continuing in unison?

Atticus

As long as we see it from this side, and clarity is not there, we will continue to be separate... and give it 'names'. Not much else can be one, for the moment.

Pressure is going up again... :p one eye is starting to go off...slight split.

Pressure very high.

I never know any more whether this is your dark humour (more please) or you're being serious. Quite a fun uncertainty really!

Only when Charles is here. In this thread. right now.

Earlier we seemingly became entangled a bit and the pressure was off the scale (even a scream in the head) ..if we were on the board at the same time, with regard to posting. That took a few days to go away.

See the Charles phenomena thread for what happened when I approached a young lady I know who sees the dead walking about. Sometimes I think one of us would blow a gasket if we got to close together. Guess who might blow a gasket. :p

[lake]

i am lost here, can someone summarize to me what is happening in here?

i read that you feel pain if you post here, yes i want pain,

it has been sometime since I felt pain

I will bite,

Moais, why would you wish or accept pain, unless you are taking it from another who cannot cope with it?

gary

[HURRITT ENYETO]

I have been having strange 'waves of blackness' in my vision and the other night i actually 'felt' a wave of something approaching, it hit me and i could still sense it moving off into the distance. It was quite profound and very intense. It has never happened before.

[bodixa]

It sounds like Kundalini rising with the heat, chakras opening with the whirling/twirling/buzzing/pressure sensations? IME.

I've been feeling these things and identifying them as something extraordinary (for me anyway) for the last thirteen years, but especially the last six. The last several months, the sensations have gone through the roof. The last several weeks? Constant, insistent. Energy swirls and buzzes in my palms and the soles of my feet. My ears are filled with a constant background high frequency whine. The pressure in my head is at my crown, in my forehead, pressure inward on the sides of my head. Another thing that may or may not be related -- I've always been an animal lover, but for some reason they are all over me now. My husband calls me the Pied Piper because dogs that are loose want to walk with me when I'm walking, and our own furbabies are glued to my side when I'm home.

I know I'm energy sensitive -- earth changes and storms affect me on a physical level -- but it has never been this constant. It may be just because there are so many global and cosmic events lining up right now, too?


This is really interesting - about the animals. I get strangers spewing their guts at me (Not literally) just talking away and telling me all sorts...

lots going on but no bad stuff..

Greybeard, I wish I could take some of that Chigong into work with me - do you think I could use it to get the tougher kids to settle down with some learning. :o)

[Lord Sidious]

i am lost here, can someone summarize to me what is happening in here?

i read that you feel pain if you post here, yes i want pain,

it has been sometime since I felt pain

If you want pain, go down to the local and find a real big guy.
Knock over his pint.
Grin at him.
Pain.

[InTheBackground]

For me the feelings/sensations themselves are more important than the labels. Labels are just words and nothing more, something we apply when we are trying to work through sometimes complex concepts with an eye toward understanding what is (we hope?) part of a shared experience. LOL. It's the concept itself that expands within us with a little bit of understanding and recognition (allowing?).

I don't even know if I made sense with that. :p

[jjl]

It sounds like Kundalini rising with the heat, chakras opening with the whirling/twirling/buzzing/pressure sensations? IME.

I've been feeling these things and identifying them as something extraordinary (for me anyway) for the last thirteen years, but especially the last six. The last several months, the sensations have gone through the roof. The last several weeks? Constant, insistent. Energy swirls and buzzes in my palms and the soles of my feet. My ears are filled with a constant background high frequency whine. The pressure in my head is at my crown, in my forehead, pressure inward on the sides of my head. Another thing that may or may not be related -- I've always been an animal lover, but for some reason they are all over me now. My husband calls me the Pied Piper because dogs that are loose want to walk with me when I'm walking, and our own furbabies are glued to my side when I'm home.

I know I'm energy sensitive -- earth changes and storms affect me on a physical level -- but it has never been this constant. It may be just because there are so many global and cosmic events lining up right now, too?


This is really interesting - about the animals. I get strangers spewing their guts at me (Not literally) just talking away and telling me all sorts...

Greybeard, I wish I could take some of that Chigong into work with me - do you think I could use it to get the tougher kids to sit down and get on with their work. :o)

I've had the same problem, wherever I go, even for a cup of coffee; a stranger will start telling me all his or her sad stories, never fails. More animals like me now, was attacked by a dog long ago age 6.
Because of this "Talent" of mine I have mostly retired from the public. I am not trained as a therapist and never learned how to set boundries of protect myself from being drained. I hope you are better at it than I am.

[Midnight Rambler]

This is really interesting - about the animals. I get strangers spewing their guts at me (Not literally) just talking away and telling me all sorts...

Greybeard, I wish I could take some of that Chigong into work with me - do you think I could use it to get the tougher kids to sit down and get on with their work. :o)

Yes, I have the same thing, I set a foot outside the door and someone comes up to speak to me. Every-time I go out the door.

And the ringing in the ears is real familiar too.

[bodixa]

This is really interesting - about the animals. I get strangers spewing their guts at me (Not literally) just talking away and telling me all sorts...

Greybeard, I wish I could take some of that Chigong into work with me - do you think I could use it to get the tougher kids to sit down and get on with their work. :o)

Yes, I have the same thing, I set a foot outside the door and someone comes up to speak to me.

Maybe it's because you are my brother from another mother. They think you are me but in shorts. :)

[jjl]

This is really interesting - about the animals. I get strangers spewing their guts at me (Not literally) just talking away and telling me all sorts...

Greybeard, I wish I could take some of that Chigong into work with me - do you think I could use it to get the tougher kids to sit down and get on with their work. :o)

Yes, I have the same thing, I set a foot outside the door and someone comes up to speak to me.

Maybe it's because you are my brother from another mother. They think you are me but in shorts. :)

Ima sistah from anotha Mistah! :)

[bodixa]

I've had the same problem, wherever I go, even for a cup of coffee; a stranger will start telling me all his or her sad stories, never fails. More animals like me now, was attacked by a dog long ago age 6.
Because of this "Talent" of mine I have mostly retired from the public. I am not trained as a therapist and never learned how to set boundries of protect myself from being drained. I hope you are better at it than I am.

I'm on my own a lot, so it's not overwhelming. The post office queue is the worst. :)

[Midnight Rambler]

Hi Bodixa,

I´m getting really curious about what you look like. Must be really good looking. :p

[moais]

I will bite,

Moais, why would you wish or accept pain, unless you are taking it from another who cannot cope with it?

gary
I believe trying to explain my point of view is pointless, but i will tell you
a new experience, anything, would be good, i did not want to feel pain , but just metaphorically, the hardship of understanding is what feeds many peoples curiosity, anything can make me stop moving forward, or can make me stop being here, and go back to work, nothing is not a gift, being here on avalon though is already a way of comunicating in which you can give me gifts, some very good ones, making me better person,

but it seems theres a new gift on avalon, so whatever it is inside the box, i would like to open, i don't, but it happens the so called new gift is not a box with a surprise, but the place where it would be in, so more stuff to go throuhgt, and more to learn, i already found it

so forget it, you make my head spin sometimes, , each of the many sides go against the others, so many possibilities, so much to think, so many relaities, all of these make me happy, my head spin on each possibility

yeah I feel like i found my pain and my gift, I hadn't realised it sooner

sorry

[galactica]

hi ...

I'm feeling sensations on the outside of my head, mainly across my scalp ... and particularly, pressure on the left side above the ear

inside my head, it feels slightly heavy, like a numb feeling that is pulsating ...

[ace]

This is really interesting - about the animals. I get strangers spewing their guts at me (Not literally) just talking away and telling me all sorts...

Greybeard, I wish I could take some of that Chigong into work with me - do you think I could use it to get the tougher kids to sit down and get on with their work. :o)

Yes, I have the same thing, I set a foot outside the door and someone comes up to speak to me. Every-time I go out the door.


And the ringing in the ears is real familiar too.

The ringing in your ears is Tinnitus.The word is derived from the Latin word "tinnire" which means “to ring”. In some locations, the condition is also known as “tinnitus aurium”.

When you walk out the door and people talk to you. Well you just got one of those faces. And i bet you smile alot.

Regards
Ace

[greybeard]

how did you learn these things Greybeard?

If you want to make fast spiritual progress be come an alcoholic and join AA
Do the 12 steps
I surrendered to my Higher power and then got led by the nose one spiritual experience after another. I read and read spiritual books and found that others had these experiences that I was not going insane that I was not alone.
I went to India the Cradle of Spirituality, came home had more awakening the K awakened I did not know what it was I was scared syconib=city saw m back in India on the ashram of the Late Dr Goels the Kundalin Enlightened Guru. He confirmed the awakened Kundalini and did Shaktipat on my forehead to control its progress

So some personal experience and a lot of learning from enlightened teachers.

We are all equal we now different things thats all.

Thanks for asking
Chris

[Bosswagon]

i felt a sensation the other day which made me laugh. i was private messaging with a certain person when i went outside to look at the sky. in an instant i felt as if i had been pinged in a sense, for lack of a better term.

it reminded me of the LCROSS mission where we bombed the moon to see how it would respond.
so i laughed.

[Celine]

Charles has the ability to bring my abilities (qualities) out.

He has never forced me , or pushed me in any direction...He has a great sense of how to let people find the path themselves, but still guide me.

Psychic connections are happening through out this forum...many will testify to forming smaller groups and having some very intense intereaction.

Some here have mentioned the need to be more educated on these subjects before attempting some of these things.

I wonder who could offer counseling in this manner...?

[jjl]

how did you learn these things Greybeard?

If you want to make fast spiritual progress be come an alcoholic and join AA
Do the 12 steps
I surrendered to my Higher power and then got led by the nose one spiritual experience after another. I read and read spiritual books and found that others had these experiences that I was not going insane that I was not alone.
I went to India the Cradle of Spirituality, came home had more awakening the K awakened I did not know what it was I was scared syconib=city saw m back in India on the ashram of the Late Dr Goels the Kundalin Enlightened Guru. He confirmed the awakened Kundalini and did Shaktipat on my forehead to control its progress

So some personal experience and a lot of learning from enlightened teachers.

We are all equal we now different things thats all.

Thanks for asking
Chris

me too! 21 yrs next month!

[TWINNICK]

its just happening , you all have your own explanations , thats good its nice to know.
no harm done tho thats the main thing.

are these names you give this , explanations of the same thing?
or are you all agreeing to disagree and continuing in unison?

Atticus


G'day,

I'm glad you have an avitar nice! I hope you are feeling well.

Ok, I think I'm ready, I don't disagree I just think because we live scattered all over the world we have different ways of explaining the same things, you know like different dialects or local jargon.

It seems to me that some of us are indeed having similar experiences and if it is my kundalini (spelling) then I have been waiting for some more signs.

someone doesn't like this conversation, my wifi modem keeps dropping out.

..Nick..

[Bosswagon]

indeed Celine. the other day in chat i started quoting Alan Watts while unbeknownst to me, the person i was quoting to had been listening to Alan Watts the entire time.

[ace]

hi ...

I'm feeling sensations on the outside of my head, mainly across my scalp ... and particularly, pressure on the left side above the ear

inside my head, it feels slightly heavy, like a numb feeling that is pulsating ...

Maybe you spend to much time steering at your computer.

Some things just have a every day common normal explanation.

Rap tin foil around your head before you log on.

works wonders.

Regards

Ace

[lake]

I will bite,

Moais, why would you wish or accept pain, unless you are taking it from another who cannot cope with it?

gary
I believe trying to explain my point of view is pointless, but i will tell you
a new experience, anything, would be good, i did not want to feel pain , but just metaphorically, the hardship of understanding is what feeds many peoples curiosity, anything can make me stop moving forward, or can make me stop being here, and go back to work, nothing is not a gift, being here on avalon though is already a way of comunicating in which you can give me gifts, some very good ones, making me better person,

but it seems theres a new gift on avalon, so whatever it is inside the box, i would like to open, i don

I once had a back tooth cut in half and the 2 pieces ripped out, feeling every bit of it and I even thanked the man afterwards!!
But I would not advise this as a productive experience.

Whereas I did once allow myself to be in love with one person, who then hurt me greatly.
This I would advise as a worthwhile journey.

gary

[Celine]

indeed Celine. the other day in chat i started quoting Alan Watts while unbeknownst to me, the person i was quoting to had been listening to Alan Watts the entire time.

Syncronicity is just the beginning...

[eaglespirit]

...been riding the rhythm and energy of this thread for about 20 minutes...will keep checking in for a while.

Have somewhat similar life experiences as Greybeard shared here...my spiritual journey has been intensified and more or less an upgraded full-time happening the past four years!

[Atticus]

how did you learn these things Greybeard?

If you want to make fast spiritual progress be come an alcoholic and join AA
Do the 12 steps
I surrendered to my Higher power and then got led by the nose one spiritual experience after another. I read and read spiritual books and found that others had these experiences that I was not going insane that I was not alone.
I went to India the Cradle of Spirituality, came home had more awakening the K awakened I did not know what it was I was scared syconib=city saw m back in India on the ashram of the Late Dr Goels the Kundalin Enlightened Guru. He confirmed the awakened Kundalini and did Shaktipat on my forehead to control its progress

So some personal experience and a lot of learning from enlightened teachers.

We are all equal we now different things thats all.

Thanks for asking
Chris

so a voyage of the self?
And educational material written buy others for others.

I wondered given your admirable stance on the Atticus/charles threads , what you were doing in this thread , is it because its spiritual in nature or because you wanted to discuss the possibility of picking up more information for your self quest.

or would you say you are nearing the end of your endeavors?

Does an individuals spiritual self wish to be projected?

[bodixa]

hi ...

I'm feeling sensations on the outside of my head, mainly across my scalp ... and particularly, pressure on the left side above the ear

inside my head, it feels slightly heavy, like a numb feeling that is pulsating ...

Maybe you spend to much time steering at your computer.

Some things just have a every day common normal explanation.

Rap tin foil around your head before you log on.

works wonders.

Regards

Ace

Shiny side out?

:)

[Liquid]

1234567890

[moais]

theres a trilogy by Isaac asimov, i believe it si called the foundation, in which theres is a story...
the story is very good, but theres a person in there that is GENETICALLY mutant person, he is a weak human, he had suffered very much before raising to power, but then he weirdly came to power and dominated the whole galaxy, he had the power to meddle with someone's feelings and emotions, ....

Now I think of charles,

Now I see that he is like finding more people to support him, now I see that there are many people who didn't receive very well the arrival of charles, but it appears some people of them, are on the side now, I don't know

just saying that you have freedom on how to understand my words,....

i don't know if such a power exists, or if this is Atticus powers

just thinking

[greybeard]

how did you learn these things Greybeard?

If you want to make fast spiritual progress be come an alcoholic and join AA
Do the 12 steps
I surrendered to my Higher power and then got led by the nose one spiritual experience after another. I read and read spiritual books and found that others had these experiences that I was not going insane that I was not alone.
I went to India the Cradle of Spirituality, came home had more awakening the K awakened I did not know what it was I was scared syconib=city saw m back in India on the ashram of the Late Dr Goels the Kundalin Enlightened Guru. He confirmed the awakened Kundalini and did Shaktipat on my forehead to control its progress

So some personal experience and a lot of learning from enlightened teachers.

We are all equal we now different things thats all.

Thanks for asking
Chris

so a voyage of the self?
And educational material written buy others for others.

I wondered given your admirable stance on the Atticus/charles threads , what you were doing in this thread , is it because its spiritual in nature or because you wanted to discuss the possibility of picking up more information for your self quest.

or would you say you are nearing the end of your endeavors?

Does an individuals spiritual self wish to be projected?

Just sharing Charles and learning.

If I though I knew it all I would no longer be open.

Namaste

ps the writings of others confirmed the experience of self, the experiences happened first

[jjl]

hi ...

I'm feeling sensations on the outside of my head, mainly across my scalp ... and particularly, pressure on the left side above the ear

inside my head, it feels slightly heavy, like a numb feeling that is pulsating ...

Maybe you spend to much time steering at your computer.

Some things just have a every day common normal explanation.

Rap tin foil around your head before you log on.

works wonders.

Regards

Ace

Shiny side out?

:)

I like shiney in, warmr that way:)

[An Cailleach]

Chris, look at the time of your last post.. 11.11 Sychronicity or what?

[moais]

gary

I see, very interesting, I understand, this kind of pain, is not very productive

I understand love my brother, never gotten very far with any love relationship though,

[joedjemal]

theres a trilogy by Isaac asimov, i believe it si called the foundation, in which theres is a story...
the story is very good, but theres a person in there that is GENETICALLY mutant person, he is a weak human, he had suffered very much before raising to power, but then he weirdly came to power and dominated the whole galaxy, he had the power to meddle with someone's feelings and emotions, ....

Now I think of charles,

Now I see that he is like finding more people to support him, now I see that there are many people who didn't receive very well the arrival of charles, but it appears some people of them, are on the side now, I don't know

just saying that you have freedom on how to understand my words,....

i don't know if such a power exists, or if this is Atticus powers

just thinking

It's not just Charles. My tribe do this sort of stuff quite a lot. I've had a number of clear telepathic conversations with several people over the years. Spoken word, pictures, moving and still, scents.

Anything you can imagine you can communicate.

I started learning qi gong properly about 15 years ago at first I could only work with the colour purple now I get all the colours at about the same brightness before meditating. I used this stuff to keep healthy for years, I reckon I've had HIV since 1984 (limited number of possible contacts before a long monogamous relationship with someone who is still negative before my diagnosis) all my peer group from the 80's died pretty much.

I'm pretty certain these abilities are something anybody with the determination to get there can achieve.

//blue was a really tough one for me for some reason.

[ace]

hi ...

I'm feeling sensations on the outside of my head, mainly across my scalp ... and particularly, pressure on the left side above the ear

inside my head, it feels slightly heavy, like a numb feeling that is pulsating ...



Maybe you spend to much time steering at your computer.

Some things just have a every day common normal explanation.

Rap tin foil around your head before you log on.

works wonders.

Regards

Ace

Shiny side out?

:)

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[InTheBackground]

Charles/Atticus wrote:

Does an individuals spiritual self wish to be projected?


My spiritual self likes to recognize and encourage the spiritual selves of others. :)



ps the writings of others confirmed the experience of self, the experiences happened first

Very much agree, Greybeard! The beginning of the quest.
And I'm not sure that we ever reach the end of that journey. At least I haven't. Always learning.

[9eagle9]

You want pain? You seem to have quite a lot of it already if you should request it. Flip the coin around and ask yourself if requesting someone else to be your abuser is healthy?What a burden for someone to assume. With so much abuse and pain in the world already we'd invite the continuation of the of abuser and victim paradigm now in a conscious agreement instead of the old way where we ask for it unconsciously?

You my friend are in pain already, I beg you not to ask for more.




i am lost here, can someone summarize to me what is happening in here?

i read that you feel pain if you post here, yes i want pain,

it has been sometime since I felt pain

I will bite,

Moais, why would you wish or accept pain, unless you are taking it from another who cannot cope with it?

gary

[moais]

the mutant can change someones emotions and feelings toward somebody

so if you hated him, you would start loving him if he wished to.

Is that the power of your tribe? to control other peoples feelings and emotions with their minds?

[Hiram]

Until the conscious energy is able to maintain its coherence after death...and take all of the experience with it....it will recur.

"To gain access to the powers of conscious energy, you must evolve a relationship to it. Learn its needs. Learn to fulfill them. You can learn to signal, be heard and record response. The veil between worlds can fall."

[joedjemal]

the mutant can change someones emotions and feelings toward somebody

so if you hated him, you would start loving him if he wished to.

Is that the power of your tribe? to control other peoples feelings and emotions with their minds?

Absolutely not! There are rules. One of the first things you learn is that you can't go poking around in people's heads. Not unless you have consent from all participants.

//edit why on earth would I want that karma?

[ace]

Is it just me, What happened to greybeards energy then?

It felt like he left the building.

Ace

[777]

Is it just me, What happened to greybeards energy then?

It felt like he left the building.

Ace

He served his self assigned purpose, why stay?

[jjl]

the mutant can change someones emotions and feelings toward somebody

so if you hated him, you would start loving him if he wished to.

Is that the power of your tribe? to control other peoples feelings and emotions with their minds?

Sorry but i don't believe that propaganda. No one who claims thier own power can suffer such psychic attack. You have to give people permission to invade you psychically. As I've said before, much of voodoo works this way, on some level, your fear gives permission hoping the harm will be less. DON"T BELIEVE IT. Brothers and sisters arm yourselves! Even if you pass over you will be complete and ascended. Don't give your power away I plead with you.Refuse to engage!

[Bosswagon]

You want pain? You seem to have quite a lot of it already if you should request it. Flip the coin around and ask yourself if requesting someone else to be your abuser is healthy?What a burden for someone to assume. With so much abuse and pain in the world already we'd invite the continuation of the of abuser and victim paradigm now in a conscious agreement instead of the old way where we ask for it unconsciously?

with so much abuse and pain in the world, it has to go somewhere. i take on the burdens and pains of my loved ones because i know i can transmute that pain into creation and productivity. this kills the pain. in common parlance, to kill pain means to numb it. this is not that. this KILLS pain and replaces burden with lightness. if i keep doing this, my life will not be in vain. there are no easy lives, but there are often difficult lives lived in vain.

[ace]

Is it just me, What happened to greybeards energy then?

It felt like he left the building.

Ace

He served his self assigned purpose, why stay?

That was the very first time since joining I have ever witnessed any one question him.
strange response
he normally has big pearls of wisdom.
Ace

[jorr lundstrom]

Is it just me, What happened to greybeards energy then?

It felt like he left the building.

Ace

Did he? Ooooooooooooh :o;)

[moais]

Is it just me, What happened to greybeards energy then?

It felt like he left the building.

Ace

He served his self assigned purpose, why stay?

That was the very first time since joining I have ever witnessed any one question him.
strange response
he normally has big pearls of wisdom.
Ace

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greybeard

[greybeard]

Is it just me, What happened to greybeards energy then?

It felt like he left the building.

Ace

You were right a friend was in I made coffee I switched the computer on to e mails.
Im back.
This forum being my home I wander form place to place and dont stay locked away in the spiritual section.
I like to interact with all members here or on the other threads.
I learn.
I dont necessarily agree but my not seeing the other persons point of view does not make them wrong.
My point of view has changed day by day month by month year by year. I am not the person or personality I was years ago.
We all grow and change.

Chris

[9eagle9]

There is saying that the student finds their teacher when the time is right.

There is a lesser known statement that the Teacher reserves the right not to teach if the student is not prepared for the lesson. Would I be able to gain the trust of a person if I sat them on a horse, slapped the beast on the rump and sent them off into the forest on a wild run without first learning the inner balance to make that a safe ride. How has the teacher learned this vital piece of information. Through teaching.

The Teacher recognizes the student is asking for something that they don't want in the first place.

Teachers teach. Counselors counsel. Look at the person from who you want to learn and know what they are. Are they teachers?

A Teachers true intention is forge a student that will burn brighter than the Teacher.

¤=[Post Update]=¤

Then god bless you.



You want pain? You seem to have quite a lot of it already if you should request it. Flip the coin around and ask yourself if requesting someone else to be your abuser is healthy?What a burden for someone to assume. With so much abuse and pain in the world already we'd invite the continuation of the of abuser and victim paradigm now in a conscious agreement instead of the old way where we ask for it unconsciously?

with so much abuse and pain in the world, it has to go somewhere. i take on the burdens and pains of my loved ones because i know i can transmute that pain into creation and productivity. this kills the pain. in common parlance, to kill pain means to numb it. this is not that. this KILLS pain and replaces burden with lightness. if i keep doing this, my life will not be in vain. there are no easy lives, but there are often difficult lives lived in vain.

[ace]

Is it just me, What happened to greybeards energy then?

It felt like he left the building.

Ace



You were right a friend was in I made coffee I switched the computer on to e mails.
Im back.
This forum being my home I wander form place to place and dont stay locked away in the spiritual section.
I like to interact with all members here or on the other threads.
I learn.
I dont necessarily agree but my not seeing the other persons point of view does not make them wrong.
My point of view has changed day by day month by month year by year. I am not the person or personality I was years ago.
We all grow and change.

Chris


Thanks Chris
I was just looking forward to you and Charles expanding on the beginning of your conversation.

I stand corrected.
I Anticipated to much.

No disrespect intended

Ace

[greybeard]

Some times it is wiser to say a little.
I listen more than I speak actually.
I read every single post in the Charles threads and advised respect and patience.
Im not massively interested in the past now.
Special abilities are now and interest me.

Chris

[TWINNICK]

Yes the quickening !

Reminds me of the movie HIGHLANDER!

Well maybe the suns recent CME is also having something to do with us all now or the galactic wave perhaps.

I hope Seth's mob have not got hold of the crystal, where's Enki when you need him (LOL)

I'll try telapathic communication with you Atticus but can you let me sit down beforehand this time (LOL) I nearly broke my ass when I had my little moment the other day.

If the kundalini is in the base of the spine I hope falling heavily on my tailbone didn't do anything negative, it was sore for a week !.

..Nick..

[fopa]

I came into the thread for a quick read and decided i was going to post that i have not felt a thing unlike those who have reported other effects.

However,

The back and the sides of my head have become very very itchy. Think it may be high blood pressure though :)

Strange! Really itchy now!

[Hiram]

I came into the thread for a quick read and decided i was going to post that i have not felt a thing unlike those who have reported other effects.

However,

The back and the sides of my head have become very very itchy. Think it may be high blood pressure though :)

Strange! Really itchy now!

Or dandruff perhaps? (sorry I couldn't help it;-)

[fopa]

I came into the thread for a quick read and decided i was going to post that i have not felt a thing unlike those who have reported other effects.

However,

The back and the sides of my head have become very very itchy. Think it may be high blood pressure though :)

Strange! Really itchy now!

Or dandruff perhaps? (sorry I couldn't help it;-)


:) I would need some hair to have dandruff. I am off to go wash bone dome shortly to see if itching subsides.

[Muzz]

indeed Celine. the other day in chat i started quoting Alan Watts while unbeknownst to me, the person i was quoting to had been listening to Alan Watts the entire time.

Syncronicity is just the beginning...

A member PMed me for some images about a certain story i had started a thread on. When I checked the articles I was suprised that there were none, so I spent quite a lot of time finding them for this person. It was not an easy task. Seconds after I had posted my reply I switched on the telly and the very images that I had found were on screen being covered by the news. This was not a big story and was not being repeated over and over. I only saw the story own once.

I felt really strange after it. ;)

[greybeard]

I came into the thread for a quick read and decided i was going to post that i have not felt a thing unlike those who have reported other effects.

However,

The back and the sides of my head have become very very itchy. Think it may be high blood pressure though :)

Strange! Really itchy now!

Or dandruff perhaps? (sorry I couldn't help it;-)

Try head and shoulders.

Seriously though

One of the first indication of K awakening is an intense itching of the scalp, next might be a feeling of movement at the base of the spine.

Its not an easy trip but i tis a blessing, All past karma is being burnt off.

Hope this helps

C

[DianeKJ]

yes when things started happening with me a few years ago, I would wake up because it felt like my heart was on fire, always at 3:33 am. good times!
namaste,
Di

[NinjaPhil]

wow what an amazing read and some fun experiences starting to happen. Nothing too strong just yet but some strange sensations on 'surface level', but now I'm starting to get a headache that feels like it's flowing from my crown and over my face to the eyes. I can also feel some pressure on my heart. Don't have lemon handy so I'll just ride this through.

This thread is helping me to really learn that you are all my teachers. Thank You.

Also quick edit, if I was to give a colour to the headache/sensation I'm having it would be blue. Ice blue.

[NinjaPhil]

One of the first indication of K awakening is an intense itching of the scalp, next might be a feeling of movement at the base of the spine.

Its not an easy trip but i tis a blessing, All past karma is being burnt off.

Hope this helps

C

Also Chris I wanted to thank you for all of your insights, as you can see you are clearly appreciated by many including me.

[vibrations]

I came into the thread for a quick read and decided i was going to post that i have not felt a thing unlike those who have reported other effects.

However,

The back and the sides of my head have become very very itchy. Think it may be high blood pressure though :)

Strange! Really itchy now!

Or dandruff perhaps? (sorry I couldn't help it;-)

Try head and shoulders.

Seriously though

One of the first indication of K awakening is an intense itching of the scalp, next might be a feeling of movement at the base of the spine.

Its not an easy trip but i tis a blessing, All past karma is being burnt off.

Hope this helps

C
I was told that Kundalini awakening can be dangerous for the people not prepared enough; it is apparently one of the strongest creative forces known in Universe. Am I wrong, I have just basic knowledge of Yoga so any light will help.

[fopa]

One of the first indication of K awakening is an intense itching of the scalp, next might be a feeling of movement at the base of the spine.

Its not an easy trip but i tis a blessing, All past karma is being burnt off.

Hope this helps

C

Also Chris I wanted to thank you for all of your insights, as you can see you are clearly appreciated by many including me.

I could not agree more!

[MariaDine]

http://en.wikivisual.com/images/2/27/Egypt-Hieroglyphs.jpg

Just sign up for a 15 week course in egyptian hieroglifs. Do you think it means anything ?!

[greybeard]

I came into the thread for a quick read and decided i was going to post that i have not felt a thing unlike those who have reported other effects.

However,

The back and the sides of my head have become very very itchy. Think it may be high blood pressure though :)

Strange! Really itchy now!

Or dandruff perhaps? (sorry I couldn't help it;-)

Try head and shoulders.

Seriously though

One of the first indication of K awakening is an intense itching of the scalp, next might be a feeling of movement at the base of the spine.

Its not an easy trip but i tis a blessing, All past karma is being burnt off.

Hope this helps

C
I was told that Kundalini awakening can be dangerous for the people not prepared enough; it is apparently one of the strongest creative forces known in Universe. Am I wrong, I have just basic knowledge of Yoga so any light will help.

This is a book by my late teacher/guru, one of quite a few.
If K awakens naturally all is well. It is not to be sought after or forced.
I suspect many will now have these experiences.
Chris

http://www.exoticindiaart.com/book/details/IDK142/

[vibrations]

Thank you very much greybeard

[greybeard]

I do appreciate the encouragment but put no head above your own.
Im just a bit older than some and had my back to the wall more often thats all.

There is a Dr Hook song that says that.

Chris

[Muzz]

MariaDine. I have no idea what it means but the pictures I was taking about were these.
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2259/2226876265_ccbb0edb56.jpg

http://heritage-key.com/medialink/files/Tut_Goddess_2011_02_12.jpg

[jorr lundstrom]

One of the first indication of K awakening is an intense itching of the scalp, next might be a feeling of movement at the base of the spine.

Its not an easy trip but i tis a blessing, All past karma is being burnt off.

Hope this helps

C

Also Chris I wanted to thank you for all of your insights, as you can see you are clearly appreciated by many including me.

I could not agree more!

IMO There is no nourishment in insight.

The only thing worth anything is contact with someone who has been through the

whole experience her/ himself when you yourself are experiencing this. Kundalini could be

horrible disaster if you are not prepared. Its Mother Gaias energy and the hole 3D is built from it.

So beware my lovely friends.:cool:

Usual symtoms:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?12966-Are-you-sick-or-are-you-ascending

Good guidence:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?13932-Our-energy-body-!

[greybeard]

One of the first indication of K awakening is an intense itching of the scalp, next might be a feeling of movement at the base of the spine.

Its not an easy trip but i tis a blessing, All past karma is being burnt off.

Hope this helps

C

Also Chris I wanted to thank you for all of your insights, as you can see you are clearly appreciated by many including me.

I could not agree more!

IMO There is no nourishment in insight.

The only thing worth anything is contact with someone who has been through the

whole experience her/ himself when you yourself are experiencing this. Kundalini could be

horrible disaster if you are not prepared. Its Mother Gaias energy and the hole 3D is built from it.

So beware my lovely friends.:cool:

Usual symtoms:

http://http://projectavalon.net/foru...-you-ascending (http://http://http://projectavalon.net/foru...-you-ascending)

Good guidence:

http://http://http://projectavalon.net/foru...-energy-body-!

The links are not working for me Jorr
Thanks though
Chris

[sygh]

[/QUOTE]
I was told that Kundalini awakening can be dangerous for the people not prepared enough; it is apparently one of the strongest creative forces known in Universe. Am I wrong, I have just basic knowledge of Yoga so any light will help.[/QUOTE]

As far as I know, there are no shortcuts. That is what walking up the chakras are for. Whoops, almost forget, and cleansing from the solar plexis. Each colour is associated with its vibration/frequency, can be associated with a sound, is associated with 7 endocrine glands as well. Best not to forget, the glands are waking up too. If you have a problem in one area, you can sense it through these, through the colour, through the vibration. You may also sense others in this way, and help others in this way, as well as yourself. Sorry, I shouldn't put the cart before the horse. Seek and you shall find, ask and you shall receive. Set aside a time every day to practice. Get rest. Eat right. Edgar Cayce has a diet. Exercise the body. Rest as necessary. Balance the spiritual with the mental, and the physical.

If you sense a problem in one of your chakras, deal with it. Example, the colour red, darkened, not vibrant, physical body ills of the base nature dealing with the colour red, and the endocine gland associated with that area of your body. You have to get through your own baggage. Baggage of the physical nature, baggage of the spiritual nature. Seek that which is IAM; you can figure out pretty much all the things you need to deal with from there. The truth shall set you free. See? You have to learn how to be silent inside. How to remove yourself from your own body and hover above it. For me, the kundalini started in my feet, rose up my body and out the top of my head. It was an electrical force alignment, for sure. Joyous.

Attention must be given on a daily basis.

Once I was not prepared for what I was trying to do and I gave myself a seizure. Another person I knew came back feeling like she put herslef back together the wrong way.

More than this, you are not alone and you must understand your intentions. Thoughts are as real as the material world you live in. We are given to understand that what you feed your spirit is what you become. Does that make sense?

You may want to start with Edgar Cayce. I truely believe we must be totally open about this. And we must overcome the ego and really work with one another in this. We don't care about looking good, alright? No one is better than the other, we all have our duties to perform. Believe me, I am speaking for myself. But who is to say little David cannot slay Goliath?

[greybeard]

Please do not try to make it happen.
It will happen all by itself.
You can not control Shakti.
Namaste

[MariaDine]

MariaDine. I have no idea what it means but the pictures I was taking about were these.
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2259/2226876265_ccbb0edb56.jpg

http://heritage-key.com/medialink/files/Tut_Goddess_2011_02_12.jpg

:cool: Fantastic !!!

Ps_ I went looking for the source of the photos... it looks that the first was recently stolen from the Cairo museum..-:(

[sygh]

From Chris Quote:

"This is a book by my late teacher/guru, one of quite a few.
If K awakens naturally all is well. It is not to be sought after or forced.
I suspect many will now have these experiences.
Chris"

Yes, that really is it, isn't it.

Oceans of Love,

Robin

[9eagle9]

Yeah if one attempts to force it rather means the ego is involved. Its not much for allowing. Relax and it will come. You can prepare for it by doing some inner landscape work. Mine shot up long before I even knew what it was. Its not a learning process its a shedding off process. Its already all there so why should we have to learn it or install it. We learn to shift that which exists internally that keeps us from our true nature. We aren't learning abilities we are experiencing what we really are and what we are composed of.

There is no accounting for the numerous things we feel, if I tried to keep track of every energetic shift and buzzle in my body I'd drive myself nuts attaching meaning to them. My ears tingle when the sun rises. What does that mean? It means ...the sun is coming up. It may mean we are clearing out enough crud that we are becoming aware of our personal energy for the first time. Meaning that stuff has already been there and it hasn't been noticed before because our mind was tied up in more material things. Now that we are aware of it the mind wants to attache meaning to it. What it means comes with time. When I'm around people who are not healthy for me my limbs go numb. It took this happening several times before I realized it. A lot of self reflection and connecting dots.

A lot of people think they are losing their mind when things of this nature start to happen. They'll ask me..."Whats happening?"

You're losing your mind.

Truly that is what begins to happen. Can we be comfortable with that? Otherwise we just have an ability directed by the ego --recipe for disaster. I look at my abiities and my ego and shudder at my ego assuming mastery over them.

I ask that because have asked me to show , (not teach there's nothing to be taught,) how to hear spirit. The question I ask is...are you willing to suspend your beliefs, to know that spirit is more real than this world.

Nope. Their not. But they will continue to ask me to show them which means they are asking for something they really don't want.

An example of ego interference and I've seen this with very talented, enabled people. They'll say to me "oh I knew that I about you but I didn't want to say anything because it sounded stupid. "

They've just allowed the ego to put a judgment on very accurate intuitive information. So how do you learn to trust it without losing the mind.

So I have to ask. What do you really want?

If people are coming emergent into latent abilities, and I have no doubt they are, one would ask..... what do you plan on doing with them?.

[Budaheart]

Seems to me there are two roads to this...One way you work at it yourself, its much more solid as you build a foundation for it.
the other way is activation occurs. It is faster than the previous one and it may also need some solid work afterward.

Activation is interesting...its as if you have some bulbs that are on ON mode and you don´t know that there are several others available to you just right there. When someone who is more integrated than you are, to the essence of their being, gets close to you, there is a window of opportunity for this activation to naturally occur. His system is just pointing to yours where are the bulbs that can be turned ON, and sometimes this occurs.

I´ve had both experiences myself. On the activation ones, you suddenly feel a sense of remembrance which is the interesting part of it...its not something you gain out of practice or a price you win for being a nice boy, it is a remembering of an activation that existed before. In other words, in this dimension or space we are being limited on purpose.

Sometimes in dream time we may return to some form of whole consciousness, its like a round sphere type sensation where the ability to understand things takes a whole different texture than the one we experience "down here".

On an energy level when the activation occurs, or the remembrance sometimes I feel a sense of...well its been a while since this trigger hasn´t gone "ON"...and you sort of travel through this new level of awareness as if somehow you already knew it.

You know it but you may not remember you know it.
So the work is in the remembering part of it. How interesting that re-membrance is to bring the members back together to wholeness.

musings,
Hugs
Barbara

[Gone001]

yes................

[sygh]

Beautiful Carmody.

[sygh]

Twinnick,
Do you have spiritual armor? I don't know how many here read the bible but a description of it is there.

Oceans of Love

[sygh]

how did you learn these things Greybeard?

If you want to make fast spiritual progress be come an alcoholic and join AA
Do the 12 steps
I surrendered to my Higher power and then got led by the nose one spiritual experience after another. I read and read spiritual books and found that others had these experiences that I was not going insane that I was not alone.
I went to India the Cradle of Spirituality, came home had more awakening the K awakened I did not know what it was I was scared syconib=city saw m back in India on the ashram of the Late Dr Goels the Kundalin Enlightened Guru. He confirmed the awakened Kundalini and did Shaktipat on my forehead to control its progress

So some personal experience and a lot of learning from enlightened teachers.

We are all equal we now different things thats all.

Thanks for asking
Chris

so a voyage of the self?
And educational material written buy others for others.

I wondered given your admirable stance on the Atticus/charles threads , what you were doing in this thread , is it because its spiritual in nature or because you wanted to discuss the possibility of picking up more information for your self quest.

or would you say you are nearing the end of your endeavors?

Does an individuals spiritual self wish to be projected?

Just sharing Charles and learning.

If I though I knew it all I would no longer be open.

Namaste

ps the writings of others confirmed the experience of self, the experiences happened first

Chris, and did you want to find others as well?

[Carmody]

One of the first indication of K awakening is an intense itching of the scalp, next might be a feeling of movement at the base of the spine.

Its not an easy trip but i tis a blessing, All past karma is being burnt off.

Hope this helps

C

Also Chris I wanted to thank you for all of your insights, as you can see you are clearly appreciated by many including me.

I could not agree more!

IMO There is no nourishment in insight.

The only thing worth anything is contact with someone who has been through the

whole experience her/ himself when you yourself are experiencing this. Kundalini could be

horrible disaster if you are not prepared. Its Mother Gaias energy and the hole 3D is built from it.

So beware my lovely friends.:cool:

Usual symtoms:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?12966-Are-you-sick-or-are-you-ascending

Good guidence:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?13932-Our-energy-body-!

from beginning to full sleepless state and 'almost' free of ego ..can't loose it all, that is apparently enlightenment in near totality.. and that is, well a shift or a leaving. I think I did the shift- I'm a lateral shifter. Kundalini...I did that by myself. No teachers came into my life.

So I pulled back... and resumed the 'normal' state. I dropped the curtain back down.

Now I'm here. It was an interesting tumble to get to this point.

[TWINNICK]

Twinnick,
Do you have spiritual armor? I don't know how many here read the bible but a description of it is there.

Oceans of Love


G'day,

yes I do and it very strong and has been with me all my life.

Have read the bible about 4 times but it just gave me more questions so I keep looking until I find the truth.

I feel I will be seeking until I leave here, but when I return to one I will remember it all I'm sure.

..nick..

[SKAWF]

Quote Originally Posted by Atticus
are these names you give this , explanations of the same thing?
or are you all agreeing to disagree and continuing in unison? Atticus

key thing that.

lets say two people are going to egypt. one starts from tibet, the other from glasgow.
both end up at the same place even though their journies were diferent.
both could argue the merits of their own path, and they could both use diferent terminolgy.
but really its the destination thats important. once you're there, the journey ends.
what was the reason you embarked on the journey in the first place?
was it for a reason, or did you want to spend the time afterwards explaining how your way was the right one?.

the truth is......
as things get quicker, as your appreciation widens and you take more in, in greater detail,
you will find yourself at a point where you can fully engage in an experience,
but your vocabulary wont be able to put words to any of it. the mind can't process it.
the only thing thats left, is the point of awareness, and the experience.
ive taken myself to a position where my mind stops working so many times,
but the core part of me is still able to function, and explore.
its only when you've been outside of the mind, that you realise how inhibiting it is.
it is literally like a box. theres more outside of it, than there is inside.
and beyond a certain point, it becomes useless anyway.
you go from seeking, to knowing. no thought required.
(i could go in depth on this subject.)

i believe that as more and more people connect with the truth,
and we all follow a path which leads us all to the same point,
we will realise as they converge that ALL things are true.
probably just before we realise that ALL things are unimportant.

there is no future, there is no past, there is only now.

steve