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Circe
18th February 2011, 19:12
Nick Clegg has a mysterious background, related to madame blavatsky and also he is linked to the CIA through obscure European funding.

Nick Clegg has had ties to several of the secretive Brussels influence-peddlers, those EU lobbying firms that schmooze their way through the eurocrats, suggesting — and apparently even drafting — euro-laws that give Brussels more power to benefit their corporate clients.

…of all the Clegg people who have also been lobbyists, his chief of staff Danny Alexander is the former director of communications with the European Movement. This outfit works against government by sovereign national parliaments, and for EU centralised government.

It is the oldest of the European lobbying outfits. And its roots lie in millions of post-war dollars pumped in by the American secret service.

Despite the phony third party rebel image portrayed by the mainstream media, you can’t get more pro-new world order than Mr. Clegg. To summarize this man supports the move towards an all-powerful Europe (and now appears to be funded by it), supports dubious climate science to the extent of calling those against world carbon taxes “nutters” and supports giving the banks more control under the guise of protecting the economy. What a rebel.;)

According to Russia Today Nick Clegg has Russian roots, it was revealed that Clegg owns a Pyramid in Russia. Despite the Illuminati symbolism, that itself doesn’t necessarily mean anything, it’s Czarist Clegg’s ties to the Russia that’s more alarming. It’s not surprising then that he is the biggest pimp for the EU-SSR, vowing to take Britain in to the Euro, following the lead from his communist overlords.Then again we could take a second look at the Pyramid since he’s directly related to Madame Blavatsky the infamous luciferian and “mother” of the New Age occultist movement!

BBC news (18th February 2011) Nick Clegg was in Leeds discussing electoral reform,the deputy prime minister Liberal Democrat deputy was insisting that getting rid of the current first-past-the-post system was the only way to tackle corruption at Westminster and prevent millions of voters being "ignored".I wasn't taken by anything he was muttering but I was taken back by what I saw in the background.Look at the Image below.


http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/51320000/jpg/_51320036_jex_961916_de27-1.jpg

A golden Owl.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_rOxJ-Rvzrmc/S8TCJKvRmMI/AAAAAAAABS0/SQR1n3AlAEs/s1600/Leeds+Owl+Millenium+Square.jpg

Why have something so obvious in view?

The owl being displayed by the illuminati is not Molech(moloch).
If we consider the symbolism used by the brotherhood, the symbols most prevalent, go to the goddess. In America, we call her Columbia. In England she is known as Brittania, hence British Columbia. In the past she has been known as Semiramis, Ishtar, Anat, Asherah, Isis, Juno, Minerva, Aphrodite, Venus, et al. Now, let’s look at the goddess symbolism. She is known as a triple goddess, trinities relate to her. In the Tarot the 3rd major arcana is the Empress. She is symbolized as a phoenix rising and is known as the eye goddess. As Venus, she is symbolized by a shell and a pentagram. Most of the goddess’ have connections with the merfolk.
Isis in the egyptian pantheon, is a symbol of Sirius, a recently re-discovered trinary star system. It has been shown through history that there is a connection with Sirius and fish-people.
Finally, the goddess is represented by an owl. You will find numerous depictions of the goddess with her owl. Some say that this is due to the correlation between Sophia(wisdom) and the wise old owl. I don’t know. What I do know is the goddess has always been depicted with an owl. Molech is a bull. He is a minor deity with possible links to Baal.
This is just one incident of many where the puppets of the elite are out in place in front of the tv to flapp their gums spouting nonsense with such symbolic figurines in the background or foreground, Look at the image below, the Congress Building.
In this picture, you can see two of these symbols of fascism on either side of the two center columns. Once we begin to understand the subliminal language of symbolism, the world we live in becomes much, much different than we formerly viewed it.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_79JhZ0Mjrzo/SjR9Tv0DiII/AAAAAAAAA68/40kfxosE7RY/s320/wwwsw.jpg

To read more about the Occult in Leeds go to the below website.
http://occultleeds.blogspot.com/

bodixa
18th February 2011, 19:32
That's Leeds Civic Hall - the city council offices. The owl is the city's symbol.

I had to go to a meeting in that very building about 1.5 years ago. It was about funding for something. I got there and doubled back, texted my boss and said I'm going home. Weird. I was just repelled. No logical reason. I just couldn't step over the threshold.

That said, I think personally this is a massive over reading into the circumstances... I like Nick Clegg. He's alright IMHO. Cam on the other hand is royalty disguised as a PM.

In terms of symbolism, there's only a finite number of things out there to symbolise people doing people stuff. The sun being a case in point, and animals, basic shapes.

To interpret every instance of the recurrence of that symbol as being linked to it's occult significance is a little bold (I think Jordan Maxwell gets a bit far out there at times). That said, Leeds is loaded with masonic stuff - it's all over the Anglican churches, the owners of Tetley Brewery were masons and sponsored the building of many of the parish Churches at the turn of the century.

I've yet to be convinced completely that Masons are total baddies yet...I don't have enough evidence. I'm happy for anyone to share some with me.

Interesting post!!

Nairnia
18th February 2011, 20:46
Interesting post but all I see is obscure references without any corroborating links etc?

Nick Clegg has a mysterious background, related to madame blavatsky and also he is linked to the CIA through obscure European funding.[/I]

Source?

Nick Clegg has had ties to several of the secretive Brussels influence-peddlers,

Who?.

…of all the Clegg people who have also been lobbyists, his chief of staff Danny Alexander is the former director of communications with the European Movement.

What movement?

It is the oldest of the European lobbying outfits. And its roots lie in millions of post-war dollars pumped in by the American secret service.

Source?

Despite the phony third party rebel image portrayed by the mainstream media, you can’t get more pro-new world order than Mr. Clegg. To summarize this man supports the move towards an all-powerful Europe (and now appears to be funded by it), supports dubious climate science to the extent of calling those against world carbon taxes “nutters” and supports giving the banks more control under the guise of protecting the economy. What a rebel.;)

Evidense?


....etc

buffski
18th February 2011, 21:36
Interesting post but all I see is obscure references without any corroborating links etc?

Nick Clegg has a mysterious background, related to madame blavatsky and also he is linked to the CIA through obscure European funding.[/I]



Yeah, interesting post, but being a reader on Blavatsky, I too would also very much appreciate a source for this assertion of Clegg's familial ties to her.

Thank you

deadpeoplestuff
18th February 2011, 22:05
Why the requests for proof and evidence? What's next, guarantee's, sworn affadavits - I appreciate this quest is about the search for truth, but surely we should take all information and treat it just the same. We must all find our own proof...Circe assertions are quite interesting...no? Well I read he was of Dutch lineage, and that Lord Carrington was something of a mentor and close friend of the family...the fact that he is one of the board of directors of United Kingdom PLC is all the proof one needs of his 'connectedness' (much more than that is just window dressing) as not one of them has any real power...about 'the owl' - I'm sure there is more even than this, given that it 'pops up' on UK paper money...and is a prominent feature at Bohemian Grove (and Harry Potter..) Perhaps pagan witchcraft holds the answers?

buffski
18th February 2011, 22:28
Hi deadpeolestuff.... just want a helpful source...it helps in research. valid question for investigative minds, that's all. :)

Nairnia
18th February 2011, 22:32
Why the requests for proof and evidence? What's next, guarantee's, sworn affadavits - I appreciate this quest is about the search for truth, but surely we should take all information and treat it just the same.?

There has to be some basis to the information rather than mere suspicion, rumour or accusation.

Isnt the whole point of Avalon II quality not quantity

witchy1
18th February 2011, 22:38
Why the requests for proof and evidence? What's next, guarantee's, sworn affadavits

Hi deadpeoplestuff, please understand why this is important on Avalon. We do not blindly believe all that is written and certainly do not treat all information the same.

To have credibility a poster needs to cite the source of the information. When deciding on weather it is truth being conveyed it is important that we obtain as much historical information that we can, including where the information actually comes from. At times we have found that the source is non existant and is merely opinion (which is fine if the posts states that) or that it has come from a disinformation source of whom we know many.

Some people actually take what is written as fact and do believe what is written without further research, and this is how we got into this mess in the first place - blind belief.

We are not like other forums and do investigate and research information so that we can get to the Truth. This in part is what makes Avalon unique.

No not all informaton is the same. If you post something be prepared to back it up or it will in all liklihood be treated as untruth and dismissed. If it your opinion then you should say IMHO or whatever suits. So long as members understand that it has its genesis in your head. You may be correct in what you say all things considered but all things need to be exposed. People should not blindly accept a persons pov here

If you state that you read something - put the link in so that we can check it out. If you dont have the link say that. We have also had our share of trolls and professional disinformation people invade our site - they are easily picked up and polietly shown the door. We do not want this type of person here. Citing your source is one way of identifying such people.

We dont assume anything, we can take an educated guess given the facts - but we need to know the facts first and those facts are clearly stated.

I trust this assists. If you have trouble understanding this, please do not hesitate to post your question again.

Witchy

Circe
18th February 2011, 22:51
Interesting post but all I see is obscure references without any corroborating links etc?

Nick Clegg has a mysterious background, related to madame blavatsky and also he is linked to the CIA through obscure European funding.[/I]

Source?



Nick Clegg has had ties to several of the secretive Brussels influence-peddlers,

Who?.


…of all the Clegg people who have also been lobbyists, his chief of staff Danny Alexander is the former director of communications with the European Movement.

What movement?

It is the oldest of the European lobbying outfits. And its roots lie in millions of post-war dollars pumped in by the American secret service.

Source?


Despite the phony third party rebel image portrayed by the mainstream media, you can’t get more pro-new world order than Mr. Clegg. To summarize this man supports the move towards an all-powerful Europe (and now appears to be funded by it), supports dubious climate science to the extent of calling those against world carbon taxes “nutters” and supports giving the banks more control under the guise of protecting the economy. What a rebel.;)

Evidense?





....etc



http://synonblog.dailymail.co.uk/2010/04/connect-the-eurodots-clegg-alexandercia.html
CIA connection

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http://wideshut.co.uk/nick-cleggs-treasonous-european-funding/ (http://www.zimbio.com/Nick+Clegg/articles/dnHTGjdmekY/Blavatsky+and+British+Politics)
European treasonous funding

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http://www.zimbio.com/Nick+Clegg/articles/dnHTGjdmekY/Blavatsky+and+British+Politics

Blavatsky + Clegg links.

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http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/charles-nevin/nevins-notes-280410-1956150.html

Blavatsky + Clegg Link

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deadpeoplestuff
18th February 2011, 23:01
Who is to say what 'source' is reliable? Let's say you have been given sources....do they not also require careful consideration? Would this information be any more reliable, simply because it quoted one source or another? There are no absolutes...you are still left with your own discernement and judgement and that is the final arbiter of quality...

I can't answer your question about 'the point' of Avalon II (rhetorical?) Quality is a value judgement....what I think of as quality today, may well be in another man's trash can tomorrow. Forgive my bluntness, but I have seen such requests for proof become the source of disputes ad infinitum

witchy1
18th February 2011, 23:12
Some people tell the truth others do not. We are wiser than you may think

Mr54
18th February 2011, 23:28
Bit off topic but Nick Clegg always reminds me of Pinocchio. He's a little wooden boy in a big bad world with absolutely no political future. Not sure what this has to do with the occult just my thoughts on the Cleggster.

norman
19th February 2011, 00:20
I was told several years ago by an obscure LibDem party activist that Clegg was the man to watch. That was a long time before anyone had heard of him.

The 'Pyramid in Russia' story sounds amazing but I'd need to see proof before I include it into my minds pile of bits.

bodixa
19th February 2011, 02:07
The likely reasons why the news conference used that shot is because:

a) They are using a community building to host the event and try to make it high profile (a good thing... )
b) It clearly identifies where Nick Clegg is - unmistakably he is in Leeds in civic buildings with the civic hall as a backdrop.

He himself probably had no influence over how the shot was framed at all. Leeds (BBC Yorkshire) wants people to see Leeds. Look! The deputy PM is here!

If he took a press interview in an office overlooking Marks and Spencer, well what would be the contextual point of that. (Oops M&S Jewish company founded in Leeds... Starbucks then!!)

It terrifies me that you are doomed by your ancestry... what if a bloodliner with a Russian granny turns out to be a goody but is written off because he's descended from someone...it's a lose lose.

Poor Nick, he really gets it in the shorts.

If interested in masonic connections to Leeds, find out and about and even go visit Temple Newsam - base of the Templars from the 12th Century. Built on a lay line connecting it to another part of town nowhere near where Nick is standing in this interview. It was compulsarily purchased by, erm, Leeds City Council in 1922.

Masons afoot in Leeds? Yeh. But Nick Clegg's nothing to do with that. IMHO


p.s. all of the above can be verified by documents available in the library, an quick phonecall to a BBC editor and a walk around.

Circe
19th February 2011, 11:52
Who is to say what 'source' is reliable? Let's say you have been given sources....do they not also require careful consideration? Would this information be any more reliable, simply because it quoted one source or another? There are no absolutes...you are still left with your own discernement and judgement and that is the final arbiter of quality...

I can't answer your question about 'the point' of Avalon II (rhetorical?) Quality is a value judgement....what I think of as quality today, may well be in another man's trash can tomorrow. Forgive my bluntness, but I have seen such requests for proof become the source of disputes ad infinitum

+1 thanks for post.I totally agree.

Circe
19th February 2011, 12:25
The likely reasons why the news conference used that shot is because:

a) They are using a community building to host the event and try to make it high profile (a good thing... )
b) It clearly identifies where Nick Clegg is - unmistakably he is in Leeds in civic buildings with the civic hall as a backdrop.

He himself probably had no influence over how the shot was framed at all. Leeds (BBC Yorkshire) wants people to see Leeds. Look! The deputy PM is here!

If he took a press interview in an office overlooking Marks and Spencer, well what would be the contextual point of that. (Oops M&S Jewish company founded in Leeds... Starbucks then!!)

It terrifies me that you are doomed by your ancestry... what if a bloodliner with a Russian granny turns out to be a goody but is written off because he's descended from someone...it's a lose lose.

Poor Nick, he really gets it in the shorts.

If interested in masonic connections to Leeds, find out and about and even go visit Temple Newsam - base of the Templars from the 12th Century. Built on a lay line connecting it to another part of town nowhere near where Nick is standing in this interview. It was compulsarily purchased by, erm, Leeds City Council in 1922.

Masons afoot in Leeds? Yeh. But Nick Clegg's nothing to do with that. IMHO


p.s. all of the above can be verified by documents available in the library, an quick phonecall to a BBC editor and a walk around.

Nice post, I respect your view. I tend to disagree where you say that Nick Clegg had probably had no influence over how the shot was framed at all, but again I respect your view.
Before anyone asks I have no "source" for that comment but if I did have a "source" then where did that "source" get their "source" from ?
This is just my opinion.That's all.

Best wishes to you all.

bodixa
19th February 2011, 12:36
The likely reasons why the news conference used that shot is because:

a) They are using a community building to host the event and try to make it high profile (a good thing... )
b) It clearly identifies where Nick Clegg is - unmistakably he is in Leeds in civic buildings with the civic hall as a backdrop.

He himself probably had no influence over how the shot was framed at all. Leeds (BBC Yorkshire) wants people to see Leeds. Look! The deputy PM is here!

If he took a press interview in an office overlooking Marks and Spencer, well what would be the contextual point of that. (Oops M&S Jewish company founded in Leeds... Starbucks then!!)

It terrifies me that you are doomed by your ancestry... what if a bloodliner with a Russian granny turns out to be a goody but is written off because he's descended from someone...it's a lose lose.

Poor Nick, he really gets it in the shorts.

If interested in masonic connections to Leeds, find out and about and even go visit Temple Newsam - base of the Templars from the 12th Century. Built on a lay line connecting it to another part of town nowhere near where Nick is standing in this interview. It was compulsarily purchased by, erm, Leeds City Council in 1922.

Masons afoot in Leeds? Yeh. But Nick Clegg's nothing to do with that. IMHO


p.s. all of the above can be verified by documents available in the library, an quick phonecall to a BBC editor and a walk around.

Nice post, I respect your view. I tend to disagree where you say that Nick Clegg had probably had no influence over how the shot was framed at all, but again I respect your view.
Before anyone asks I have no "source" for that comment but if I did have a "source" then where did that "source" get their "source" from ?
This is just my opinion.That's all.

Best wishes to you all.

You're right, he could have been involved in it, but for political or communication reasons and consultations with the 'locals' maybe.

Here's something you might find interesting, you may already know. When Gordon Brown was doing his cabinet meetings around the country, they came to Leeds one day - the entire Cabinet. They met at the Royal Armouries - what do you make of that?

It's always portrayed as an economic/political maneouvre and a way for cabinet members to visit parts of the country that they would not always see and get a sense of how those places function and are developing. The Armouries is a real white elephant. Would be very interested to hear your thoughts on that.

I do think that the vast majority of politicians are genuine public servants... history explains how the masons and secret societies became linked with public life in Leeds. You've got me wanting to go spend a day down the library digging through teh archives. :)

Circe
19th February 2011, 14:08
"Here's something you might find interesting, you may already know. When Gordon Brown was doing his cabinet meetings around the country, they came to Leeds one day - the entire Cabinet. They met at the Royal Armouries - what do you make of that?" bodixa

This is interesting,The Royal Armouries in Leeds was designed by the British architect Derek John Walker source: http://www.royalarmouries.org/collections/history-of-the-collection/museum-history/leeds-history

British Architect Derek John Walker In 1970 was also appointed chief architect and planner for the city of Milton Keynes

Read more: http://www.propertyweek.com/comment/grand-masters/3091185.article#ixzz1EPeNW6ln
propertyweek.com
Under Creative Commons License: Attribution

There is a connection between Derek Walker and Lord Rothschild and the illumunati, Lord Rothschild was on the planning and design committee of Milton Keynes, a city replete with Illuminati Symbology and that Milton Keynes is the prototype or blueprint for the "CIA City" of Reston, Virginia and that the same 'team' of urban planners and architects responsible for the creation of Milton Keynes are now at work redesigning the Iraqi so-called Holy City of Najaf, where Ali the founder of their variant of Islam lies buried in a gold-domed mosque.

It is very sinister that the Rothschild Illuminist dynasty has a link to the "Vatican" of the Shia Muslims. What the purpose of this is unknown but in all likelihood is linked to the occult since besides the shrine, Najaf contains the largest cemetery in the world and was a major center for the Sumerian and Babylonian mystery religions before the time of Jesus Christ or Mohammmed.

source: http://www.scoreboard-canada.com/articles-eyeswideshut.htm
http://www.outlawjournalism.com/blog/?p=969

Here is a nice little blog website detailing Leeds and all the occult symbols around the city
http://occultleeds.blogspot.com/


take the above information as you wish.

Best wishes to you all

Circe
19th February 2011, 15:33
Just to add to the conversation...

UK political party leaders.

Nick Clegg.

Nick Clegg ('Liberal Democrat') is the son of the chairman of United Trust Bank and Clegg's paternal grandmother,
Kira von Engelhardt, of German-Russian and Ukrainian origin, was a Baroness in Imperial Russia.
His great-great grandfather was the Ukrainian nobleman, Ignaty Zakrevsky, an attorney general of the Imperial
Russian senate.Another kid off the street, then. Clegg attended the elite private Westminster School
and then Cambridge University, an Illuminati bedfellow of Oxford and known together as 'Oxbridge'.
He also studied in America at the University of Minnesota.

Ed Miliband.

Ed Miliband (Labour) is the son of the Marxist intellectual Ralph Miliband and attended both Oxford University
and that production line for Labour and Illuminati politicians, the London School of Economics,
which was created, and is still controlled by, the Illuminati Fabian Society.
He was also a visiting scholar at Harvard.

David Cameron.

David Cameron ('Conservative') comes from a banking family steeped in royal and aristocratic bloodlines with
close connections to the House of Rothschild. He attended the elite Eton College, where the royal children go,
and went on to the Illuminati-owned Oxford University.

Eton has produced 20 British prime ministers while Oxford University has produced 26 ~ plus 28 overseas presidents
and prime ministers. Eight of the last 12 British prime ministers have been Oxford graduates.

His wife "Samantha Sheffield" is linked to the notorious satanic "Astor" family

source: http://women.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/women/the_way_we_live/article6164181.ece

Source: http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/the_astor_bloodline.htm


These are three political leaders
who claim to stand for different things,
but, in truth, occupy the same ground.

source: http://snippits-and-slappits.blogspot.com/2010/10/it-is-possible-nowadays-for-government.html

bodixa
19th February 2011, 17:48
That's the way the world is. It doesn't make them bad, or conspirators. It makes them rich, educated, with opportunities and influence.

That kind of speculation undermines public service, in my humble opinion.

I just don't know what you are trying to say. It doesn't mean anything necessarily by default.

I'm more than happy to listen to a deeper explanation to help me understand it better.

lazer
19th February 2011, 19:13
Hi There,

Back in the late 70's.. early 80's i knew a few Masons....
Different backgrounds ...different levels...
It was an eye opener...i can tell you...
Most of the lower level Masons have no insight as to what the upper levels are privilaged to.
So yes..not all Masons are baddies.

Circe
19th February 2011, 19:30
Hi There,

Back in the late 70's.. early 80's i knew a few Masons....
Different backgrounds ...different levels...
It was an eye opener...i can tell you...
Most of the lower level Masons have no insight as to what the upper levels are privilaged to.
So yes..not all Masons are baddies.

Hi there lazer, I have heard of many people saying the same thing, the lower levels of the masons seem to have no idea about the higher levels for example Upper-level Masons keep secrets from lower-level Masons. According to Pike, a lower-level Mason "is intentionally misled by false interpretations [of Masonic symbols]. It is not intended that he shall understand them [the symbols]; but it is intended that he shall imagine he understands them. Their true explication is reserved for the Adepts, the Princes of Masonry."6 Lower-level Masons are just dupes being used by the upper-level ones, the so-called "Princes of Masonry."

My source: Quote from Albert Pike
http://home60515.com/23.html

http://www.savethemales.ca/_left_albert_pike_1809-1891by.html

Maybe of some interest..MASONRY UNMASKED A former 32nd degree Freemason 1 of 4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-UOElBMGJc

MASONRY UNMASKED A former 32nd degree Freemason 2 of 4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBzOG74Lpoc&NR=1

MASONRY UNMASKED A former 32nd degree Freemason 3 of 4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7xua84PieI

MASONRY UNMASKED A former 32nd degree Freemason 4 of 4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZsi5Sdiysc

lazer
19th February 2011, 21:15
Hi There,

Back in the late 70's.. early 80's i knew a few Masons....
Different backgrounds ...different levels...
It was an eye opener...i can tell you...
Most of the lower level Masons have no insight as to what the upper levels are privilaged to.
So yes..not all Masons are baddies.

Hi there lazer, I have heard of many people saying the same thing, the lower levels of the masons seem to have no idea about the higher levels for example Upper-level Masons keep secrets from lower-level Masons. According to Pike, a lower-level Mason "is intentionally misled by false interpretations [of Masonic symbols]. It is not intended that he shall understand them [the symbols]; but it is intended that he shall imagine he understands them. Their true explication is reserved for the Adepts, the Princes of Masonry."6 Lower-level Masons are just dupes being used by the upper-level ones, the so-called "Princes of Masonry."

My source: Quote from Albert Pike
http://home60515.com/23.html

http://www.savethemales.ca/_left_albert_pike_1809-1891by.html

Maybe of some interest..MASONRY UNMASKED A former 32nd degree Freemason 1 of 4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-UOElBMGJc

MASONRY UNMASKED A former 32nd degree Freemason 2 of 4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBzOG74Lpoc&NR=1

MASONRY UNMASKED A former 32nd degree Freemason 3 of 4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7xua84PieI

MASONRY UNMASKED A former 32nd degree Freemason 4 of 4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZsi5Sdiysc

Hi again,

You would be surprised at some of the Masons...
Most likely you know that Prince Michael..is an upper level Mason..
as is Prince Philip...

Circe
19th February 2011, 21:30
Oh yes, I know about the top Masons in the World.
http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/33rd.htm
http://www.whale.to/b/33.html
A branch of the Freemasons secret society is being formed by members of the Royal Household and police who protect the Royal Family.this is from 2008,story below,click link.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-528751/Freemasons-open-lodge-Buckingham-Palace--Queen-isnt-amused.html#ixzz1ERVBy3hC
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-528751/Freemasons-open-lodge-Buckingham-Palace--Queen-isnt-amused.html
A-Z list from around the World
http://www.durham.net/~cedar/famous.html#a

peter67
19th February 2011, 21:41
Those in the uk will remember last years election campaign being debated on tv for the very first time with the three puppets, Brown,Cameron and Mr clegg. Nobody in the uk would have believed that the lib dems as always had any chance of winning the election. However those tv moments gave him the platform to come across as a sensible concerned future leader. (sorry, i'm trying not to laugh)
He came across obama like with his big ideas and great delivery a sunday cricketter would have been proud of. He sold himself so well and in polls made a big impression, however we all new a hung parliament was going to happen because we were told six months before by the media that this was going to be the case. Then hey presto it happens and clegg is deputy prime minister. It comes as no surprise that he has all these dodgy connections because all these guys are part of the same family.

thanks

Circe
19th February 2011, 23:49
Those in the uk will remember last years election campaign being debated on tv for the very first time with the three puppets, Brown,Cameron and Mr clegg. Nobody in the uk would have believed that the lib dems as always had any chance of winning the election. However those tv moments gave him the platform to come across as a sensible concerned future leader. (sorry, i'm trying not to laugh)
He came across obama like with his big ideas and great delivery a sunday cricketter would have been proud of. He sold himself so well and in polls made a big impression, however we all new a hung parliament was going to happen because we were told six months before by the media that this was going to be the case. Then hey presto it happens and clegg is deputy prime minister. It comes as no surprise that he has all these dodgy connections because all these guys are part of the same family.

thanks

Yes I think Mr. Clegg delivered a world class googly on the stage in front of millions of UK viewers early last year. As you say Peter67 Mr.Clegg came across "Obama like" and the media & public took to him like a shot. What a con. How many times will we "the public" fall for a politician and their promises only to regret their vote later on. How many more times? The system must fall, it has to. IMHO