View Full Version : The UK 2011 Census is here. Run by Lockheed Martin!?
Muzz
21st February 2011, 08:55
HI Folks
The Uk census is almost here. Lockheed Martin have the contract for running it. I would imagine that it'll be all over the telly, not that many of us watch the it. The gov says its very important for assigning resources and will fine anyone £1000 for non compliance.
Telegraph article - http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/7043822/Households-face-1000-fines-from-officials-with-police-powers-if-they-refuse-to-fill-in-their-census-forms.html
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7231186.stm
The freeman researchers say its much more sinister than that. Under the patriot act, any information held by a US corp. can be accessed for natinal security which would mean that all the alphabet soup agencies would be trawling through the data. Ther is also many who believe it is a contract you are signing that hands over your rights and freedoms.
It is covered under the 1920 census act. Found here.http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/Geo5/10-11/41/contents#comref-581848
Heres a link where you can scroll through the form.
http://fuelinjectedmoose.blogspot.com/2010/10/2011-census.html
Cheers
Muzz
Lord Sidious
21st February 2011, 09:10
From what I have found out, the census info is for calculating the net worth of every man, woman and child in the corporation.
They can then hypothecate these onto the markets and/or offer bonds to the central bank to borrow into circulation more currency.
This is why they get upset if you don't do it.
Muzz
21st February 2011, 09:26
From what I have found out, the census info is for calculating the net worth of every man, woman and child in the corporation.
They can then hypothecate these onto the markets and/or offer bonds to the central bank to borrow into circulation more currency.
This is why they get upset if you don't do it.
Lol. Spot on mate its like a big stock take. UK plc - 60 million head of cattle. Check.;)
Zepheriah
21st February 2011, 12:14
Muzz, its about 60million in UK.
Either way, they have our individual net worth already figured out. It's the cost of tghe fine if we don't take part, £1000. Nice to feel worth something huh?
Basically, if they can't get you to add your name to the census so they can float a national net value to the IMF for a loan then you just hand over your "value" and they get without it being on loan.
Muzz
21st February 2011, 12:30
Lol. Thanks for that Zeph , what a doughnut. :o
freespirit
21st February 2011, 20:31
HI Folks
The Uk census is almost here. Lockheed Martin have the contract for running it. I would imagine that it'll be all over the telly, not that many of us watch the it. The gov says its very important for assigning resources and will fine anyone £1000 for non compliance.
Cheers
Muzz
Will send my census to the same place I sent my last one,and the one before that,and the one before that.
PO Box Bin
C/O Leeds City Council Refuse Collection
Freespirit
Muzz
3rd March 2011, 12:08
A member of David Ickes forum says will be in the audience of the uk tv program Question Time tonight (3/3/11). The question he will be asking is about the Uk Census and Lockheed Martin. Might be worth watching but its pretty obvious this program is tightly contolled when it comes to the subjects covered and he may not be allowed the opportunity.
Heres a link to the thread he started.
http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=159967
chelmostef
3rd March 2011, 12:13
My sugestions are change the form edit it to read how you want.... Change the contract to one you like.
Like, I do not summit to living in a kleptocarcy stuff like that..
Muzz
3rd March 2011, 12:26
I like it Chelmostef.
It made me think and we could take it a step further and ask for a peoples census of the government.
Fail to comply and you have to wipe out our debt.
You could have lots of fun with the questions on our census.
1. Are you a corporation and if so who owns you?
2. Disclose members of your household that are ETs
3. Full disclosure of all tax revenue. Id love to know where all the money goes.
4. etc.....
chelmostef
3rd March 2011, 13:10
....Double post
chelmostef
3rd March 2011, 13:15
Yes you are not failing to particpate so they cant get you there... I like what Whitestar wrote about here-
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?14605-Can-We-TRUST-CHARLES-Our-REAL-HISTORY-and-the-E.T.-INVASION-*LIE*/page8
Change it for stuff like that or anything you don't agree with.... It would be nice to see the official questions to see how they could be changed.
Any honest Lawyers or Barristers in here?
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linz2d
3rd March 2011, 21:12
Well I know the pay up here in Scotland in very good for disturbing the forms in fact if I wasn't going on a trip soon I would have applied for the job. So the government is spending loads to get have this completed. I find it interesting that the US is having one at a similar time... does anyone know if there are other countries doing the same?
Muzz
27th March 2011, 08:29
A 100-STRONG army of census enforcers has been given police powers to gather criminal evidence against householders who fail to complete tomorrow’s national survey.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/8408003/Census-2011-an-army-of-enforcers.html
ViralSpiral
27th March 2011, 08:53
A 100-STRONG army of census enforcers has been given police powers to gather criminal evidence against householders who fail to complete tomorrow’s national survey.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/8408003/Census-2011-an-army-of-enforcers.html
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If it were me, I would hand over the £ 1000.00 in pennies in an Asda plastic Bag, with pleasure.
Lord Sidious
27th March 2011, 09:00
Go to the following link and extract the case cites for British cases.
http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/cases/cth/HCA/1991/5.html
Then go here
http://www.bailii.org/
and read the cases you extracted from Plenty v Dillon.
Once you have done that, read this
http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/cases/cth/HCA/1990/26.html
and follow the same methodology.
What I would like for you all to do, is look at how the judges in all the cases view the interactions of law and rights.
Once you grasp this, you will have little problem with people messing around at your home.
This one
http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/cases/cth/HCA/1990/24.html
Bropho v Western Australia [1990] HCA 24; (1990) 171 CLR 1 (20 June 1990)
is very interesting as it contains the following point of law
HCA 24; (1990) 171 CLR 1 (20 June 1990)]
The various Criminal Codes and general criminal law statutes, which contain no express general provision to the effect that they apply to servants of the Crown acting in the course of their duties as such, provide obvious examples of such legislative provisions. It could scarcely be said to be "manifest from the very terms" of those Codes or statutes that it was the legislative intent that they would bind employees and agents of the Crown or that the inapplicability of their provisions to such persons would wholly frustrate their purpose. It is, however, clear that it simply would not occur to any legislature of this country that a failure to indicate by express words or necessary implication that the provisions of a Criminal Code or general criminal statute were applicable to servants of the Crown in the course of their duties as such would result in a situation where Crown servants were placed beyond the reach of the ordinary criminal law in so far as they were acting with the authority of the Crown (see, generally, A. v. Hayden; Olmstead v. United States [1928] USSC 133; [1928] USSC 133; (1928) 277 US 438, at p 485).
and
HCA 24; (1990) 171 CLR 1 (20 June 1990) per BRENNAN J]
Moreover, it is beyond the power of the Crown to authorize a servant or agent to commit an offence and any attempt to confer authority to do so in fact is void in law. As Griffith C.J. said in Clough v. Leahy [1904] HCA 38; (1904) 2 CLR 139, at pp 155-156:
"If an act is unlawful - forbidden by law - a person who
does it can claim no protection by saying that he acted
under the authority of the Crown."
I hope that you avalonuggets get the ideas expressed above.
What I did, was I went to the law library with a list of all the case cites in the first two high court cases, photocopied all of them, then took that home and read it.
I have since found that you can buy a hand held scanner that scans one page at a time and stores the images to a flash card. That is another option you have.
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jackovesk
27th March 2011, 10:41
I am Proud to say I have never completed a Census & Never Will..!
oceanz
28th March 2011, 02:26
Well I know the pay up here in Scotland in very good for disturbing the forms in fact if I wasn't going on a trip soon I would have applied for the job. So the government is spending loads to get have this completed. I find it interesting that the US is having one at a similar time... does anyone know if there are other countries doing the same?
Yes, Australia is conducting their census later this year.
Muzz
7th April 2011, 19:34
The census police are coming! Officials called in to round up SEVEN MILLION unsent forms
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1374007/Census-fine-Officials-called-round-SEVEN-MILLION-unsent-forms.html
Superb :)
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