Lindsey Williams on AJones: insider design of Mid-East DESTABILIZATION! Feb.22.2011

[Zook]

Five part interview ... will post remaining two parts when Alex posts them.

Very important reading ... fits like a glove to what we are watching transpire before our eyes, IMO.

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Part 01:

http://www.youtube.com/user/TheAlexJonesChannel#p/u/2/U-kmI1hzbI0

Part 02:

http://www.youtube.com/user/TheAlexJonesChannel#p/u/1/pa2zhJh2s3E

Part 03:

http://www.youtube.com/user/TheAlexJonesChannel#p/u/0/sJNIuZOTReg

Part 04:

http://www.youtube.com/user/TheAlexJonesChannel#p/u/8/JcsoWO4fctg

Part 05:

http://www.youtube.com/user/TheAlexJonesChannel#p/u/7/QdBtU6lb5AE

[crosby]

Zook, thank you for posting this. i haven't been to prisonplanet for about a week. i think these updates with lyndsey williams are very educational and more people should be paying attention to them.
corson

[jackovesk]

How the "Dominoes Will Fall"?

http://us.cdn3.123rf.com/168nwm/volk65/volk651106/volk65110600024/9791901-a-strong-businessman-manager-supporting-falling-dominoes-3d-render-with-poser-model.jpg

Brief History Lesson (OPEC) Oil is the World's Currency, Not the $USD!

Between 1977 - 1980


Henry Kissinger Cut a Deal with the Middle Eastern Oil producing Nations (Opec), which stated the US would buy Oil from them ONLY if part of the payment was in US Federal Reserve TBills & Securities.


NWO 2012 (Strategic Plan)


Remember Ken Fromm's (Now Dead NWO Insider) statement he made to Lindsey Quote: "If it's written on a piece of paper, then it's only worth the piece of paper it's written on"!

The current Middle Eastern Crisis (Partially caused by the NWO backed Muslim Brotherhood) will continue to exacerbate throughout Egypt, Lybia, Yemen, Turkey, Morroco, Saudi Arabia, etc.

Oil will increase to around $200 USD per Barrell affecting Cars, Trucks, Airlines & Military leading to 'Massive Increases' to the cost of Food, Transport and Cost of Living.

This is when the Middle Eastern Oil producing Nations will be "DOUBLECROSSED" by the NWO/Elite by collapsing the $USD, therefore rendering all the US Federal Reserve TBills & Securites held by these Countries 'WorthLess'!

Once this transpires there will be a 'Huge Backlash' and the Oil will cease to flow to the US!


Summary from Left to Right:


Middle East (Crisis Escalating) - Oil Price $200 USD/Barrel - NWO/Elite "DoubleCross' Collapse of the $USD - Middle Eastern Countries Economically ruined.


Conclusion:


Once the above has 'Transpired' the NWO/Elite will open up it's own Oil Reserves (Known about for the last 50 years) i.e. North Slope of Alaska, Gull Island, including Bracken Rigde which sits under the Rocky Mountains and holds upwards of 2 Trillion Barrels (announced by George W.Bush in 2005).

Once this has been done Americans will be forced to pay upwards of $7-8 per Gallon! Combined with the $USD Collapse, this is when the NWO/Elite will bring in their "One World Currency"!

There will be 'NO' Food Shortage! The Grocery shelves will be fully stocked. BUT most people will not be able to afford it!


China and Russia?


Ken Fromm Quote to Lindsey " China is the Big One"!

China 'WILL NOT BE AFFECTED' by this 'Oil/Middle East Crisis' because it has signed an Exclusive deal with Russia to buy all the Oil & Natural Gas they want from them!


Hope this information helps you all prepare for what may be yet to come! Depending on how many people find out this NWO/Plan before it's too late!

Can I suggest you send this to all your family and friends so they too can help Prepare and/or Prevent the NWO/Elite's Final Agenda.

Thanks for reading this...

PS - I recommend you watch listen to all 5 clips below as the 'above info' is only a summary. I didn't have time to include all the information...

Part 1 - Introduction & Historical Overview of NWO Plan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-kmI1hzbI0&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL

Part 2 - NWO Strategic Plan & Secret backing of 'Muslim Brotherhood' (Next Steps)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pa2zhJh2s3E&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL

Part 3 - NWO Strategic Plan & "Arab Nations NWO DoubleCross" (New Information)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJNIuZOTReg&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL

Part 4 - NWO 2012 Timeline, George Bush Snr (China)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JcsoWO4fctg&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL

Part 5 - Callers on Arab DoubleCross, Lindsey Williams & Alex Jones (Summary)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QdBtU6lb5AE&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL

[PathWalker]

Working video here:
U-kmI1hzbI0

[sjkted]

I listened to this live and would like to state this isn't the typical Lindsey Williams interview of 55 minutes of overselling the content and 5 minutes of underdelivering.

The main points of the interview:

- Dollar will be completely dead by Dec 2012 and replaced by the introduction of a world currency
- The instability in the Middle East coupled with the death of the dollar will result in the US becoming unable to import oil from the Middle East. After a period of time, oil drilling will be resumed in the US while the Middle East will revert back to nomads as they were 60 years ago.
- China will buy oil from Russia and both countries will be largely unaffected.
- Oil prices in the US and Europe will continue to increase up to $200+ per barrel.

FWIW, I consider this information to be very credible.

--sjkted

[sjkted]

Mods: Could we merge these threads:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?14848-Lindsey-Williams-on-AJones-insider-design-of-Mid-East-DESTABILIZATION!-Feb.22.2011&p=152390#post152390

--sjkted

Mod-edit: Merge done. Thanks for noticing.

[Budaheart]

Spanish newspaper is already reflecting the idea of reaching 200 dollars/barrel
Stating analysts from the Japanese Nomura Bank
http://www.elpais.com/articulo/internacional/OPEP/debate/compensar/falta/petroleo/Libia/elpepiint/20110224elpepiint_10/Tes

[ThePythonicCow]

How the "Dominoes Will Fall"?
I think that Lindsey Williams has this one nailed about right.

Within the next couple of years, the U.S. Dollar will lose its status as the world's reserve currency and lose one-half to two-thirds of its purchasing power in the world's markets. The prices that Americans pay for imported goods (oil, manufactures, food) will double or triple. U.S. domestic contracts, mortgages, taxes, wages and salaries, retirement payouts, and domestic goods and services will maintain relatively constant in U.S. Dollar terms. Most Americans will feel poorer as a result.

Nations that have accumulated large amounts of U.S. debt (Middle East, Japan, China, ...) will lose great amounts of purchasing power for that debt. Unless they have planned well for that eventuality (China) they will be poorer.

The U.S. will begin to replace oil imports with more domestic coal, gas and oil, though there will be a transition period that will be rough.

[jackovesk]

How the "Dominoes Will Fall"?
I think that Lindsey Williams has this one nailed about right.

Within the next couple of years, the U.S. Dollar will lose its status as the world's reserve currency and lose one-half to two-thirds of its purchasing power in the world's markets. The prices that Americans pay for imported goods (oil, manufactures, food) will double or triple. U.S. domestic contracts, mortgages, taxes, wages and salaries, retirement payouts, and domestic goods and services will maintain relatively constant in U.S. Dollar terms. Most Americans will feel poorer as a result.

Nations that have accumulated large amounts of U.S. debt (Middle East, Japan, China, ...) will lose great amounts of purchasing power for that debt. Unless they have planned well for that eventuality (China) they will be poorer.

The U.S. will begin to replace oil imports with more domestic coal, gas and oil, though there will be a transition period that will be rough.

Agreed Paul,

However as planned, China sits and waits to takeover the mantle as the World's next Superpower.

I think this US still owes China approx. $1.3 Trillion, however they will right that off as small change and over the last few years have been hedging their loss with Gold & Silver.

Remember China has a key advantage: They have the world’s biggest reserves of rare-earth minerals that are essential to producing some of the newest technologies. Western businesses have been increasingly concerned by this domination, and China’s recent informal stoppage of exports of rare- earth material to Japan pushed the issue to the front burner.

China dominates mining of rare earths used in an increasingly wide array of civilian and defense applications. Rare earths are essential for hundreds of commercial as well as military applications: electric motors and batteries for hybrid cars, wind-power turbines and solar panels, mobile phones, cameras, portable x-ray units, energy-efficient light bulbs and stadium lights, fiber optics, glass additives and polishing In a technology-intensive world, these rare earths have become some of the most sought-after materials in modern manufacturing, even though they’re used in relatively small amounts.

They have got strong resource ties to Russia, Africa and Australia so they won't be running out Oil, Natural Gas, Coal, Copper, Iron Ore, etc anytime soon! And to top it all off they have 'Free Trade Agreements' with most Western Countries so they can flood their cheap exports and boost their maufacturing industry at the same time!

Just the way the Globalist NWO Ba$tards had planned it..!

[iceni tribe]

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[Carmody]

See the 'who drives the dreambus?' documentary thread.

See how it is actually done.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10942-Who-s-Driving-The-Dreambus-The-Documentary

The people driving this thing... They have millennia of experience.... and they use the astrological patterns and how they affect humankind as the main component in the backdrop.They have also mechanized effect devices on that front as well. Cell phones, radio waves, and HAARP, chemtrails, etc.

Pay attention but don't buy into this fear. It is literally your acceptance of the ego and the advertising that allows this whole bloody shebang to take place.

You excite each other into this given reality through ego reflection and you do it when your body/ego buys into these purposely delivered fearful visions. The documentary will show you exactly how you do this to yourself. Your 'mind/ego' will fight this information if you don't concentrate...... It will try to keep you locked into the proposed consensus reality of visualized fears.

This is exactly what Bill is talking about regarding changing this timeline and Heck, Even Charles speaks on this exact same thing, in his own way.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10942-Who-s-Driving-The-Dreambus-The-Documentary&p=154520&viewfull=1#post154520

Understand what they are doing. Cut them off at the pass. Two hours of time, to change your life. Is it worth it?

Bookmark the video, see it again and again, as your mind will try very hard to forget.

They are trying to move very fast now, to move faster than your awakening.

A time where the 1960's awareness is returning... but turbocharged in the extreme... is coming, right now.

[jackovesk]

See the 'who drives the dreambus?' documentary thread.

See how it is actually done.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10942-Who-s-Driving-The-Dreambus-The-Documentary

Read my post on page 2. Hopefully clarity will come . To clarify what I'm trying to say..

I precognate timeline reality to some extent..mmmk? :)

The people driving this thing... they do the same. They have millennia of experience.... and they use the astrological patterns and how they affect humankind as the main component in the backdrop.They have also mechanized effect devices on that front as well. Cell phones, radio waves, and HAARP, chemtrails, etc.

Pay attention but don't buy into this fear. It is literally your acceptance of the ego and the advertising that allows this whole bloody shebang to take place.

You excite each other into this given reality through ego reflection and you do it when your body/ego buys into these purposely delivered fearful visions. The documentary will show you exactly how you do this to yourself. Your 'mind/ego' will fight this information if you don't concentrate...... It will try to keep you locked into the proposed consensus reality of visualized fears.

This is exactly what Bill is talking about regarding changing this timeline and Heck, Even Charles speaks on this exact same thing, in his own way.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10942-Who-s-Driving-The-Dreambus-The-Documentary&p=154520&viewfull=1#post154520

Understand what they are doing. Cut them off at the pass. Two hours of time, to change your life. Is it worth it?

Bookmark the video, see it again and again, as your mind will try very hard to forget. the point I make in the post (on page 2) about what is said at 1:12 into the video...it explains where you are at right now. However... you need to see the video and the post in the thread.... to grasp what I'm trying to say.

I'm trying to lay it out for you.

They are trying to move very fast now, to move faster than your awakening.

A time where the 1960's awareness is returning... but turbocharged in the extreme... is coming, right now.




Consciousness: the state of being conscious;
awareness of ones's own existence,
sensations, thoughts and surrounding.

Voice of Allan Watts (1915-1973)

"I believe the if we are honest with ourselves, the most fascinating problem in the world is WHO AM I?

What do you mean? What do you feel? When you say the word I, I myself?

http://theavalonfiles.com/secret/secure/Whos_Driving_The_Dreambus/index.html



The inner world of the ego reflection on/in the given relevant astral plane..... is surprisingly similar to the film Inception.

Consensus reality in small groups, around their given activities and involvements.

Watching the interactions and the motions, changes. Walking among them is very interesting too.

Some will see you, some will not, some will respond, some will simply interact.

Some will even be aware. The odd one says, 'I see you'. And I smile back. It is a fun game.

....and Don Quixote goes galloping off in all directions. :)




For this 'one'...this is/was the gift of seeing the ego of the consensus reality ...forming itself as a rolling wave both in and out of time, in anticipation of a 'reality' to come, and history to be, to recall. to watch the separateness of the dance of the human form of the oneness of all.

1:12 in the video. :)


I read your post and watched the video and understand what you were trying to share with us Carmody.


The people driving this thing... they do the same. They have millennia of experience.... and they use the astrological patterns and how they affect humankind as the main component in the backdrop.They have also mechanized effect devices on that front as well. Cell phones, radio waves, and HAARP, chemtrails, etc.

Pay attention but don't buy into this fear. It is literally your acceptance of the ego and the advertising that allows this whole bloody shebang to take place.

However I don't think anyone here is buying into the whole 'FEAR' thing! Why?

Zooks & My post were simply trying educate and inform others (Connecting-The-Dots) on what 'MAY' be coming down the NWO Road, with the new Lindsey Williams insider information.



Five part interview ... will post remaining two parts when Alex posts them.

Very important reading ... fits like a glove to what we are watching transpire before our eyes, IMO.



Hope this information helps you all prepare for what may be yet come! Depending on how many people find out this NWO/Plan before it's too late!

Can I suggest you send this to all your family and friends so they too can help Prepare and/or Pevent the NWO/Elite's Final Agenda.

Thanks for reading this...

We were not giving this energy, but simply providing information so our collective consciousness can counteract it, as you stated "Cut them off at the pass". Prewarned is Forearmed!

Thanks...

[Arrowwind]

In the spirit of full disclosure
be aware that Lindsey Wiliams sells survival gear and food storage supplies

[jackovesk]

In the spirit of full disclosure
be aware that Lindsey Wiliams sells survival gear and food storage supplies

besides the point Arrowind...

Take this inside information for what is (make up your own mind) and not what Lindsey is trying to sell on the back of it!

It's all freely available on the net...

[Seeker]

The sad fact is that what the elite are doing will work. The average American will be sitting around with no job, their house and car repossessed and starving. The politicians will tell them the reason for this is what some foreigner did. They will join the army because it will feed them and they can get revenge on the foreigners that did it to them. Sometimes I feel like they deserve what they are going to get. But it is not really their fault. They have been brainwashed since birth by a system designed to make them like that. It is a rare person that can see through it. The elite have been doing these same tricks forever and they always work. The average person will always fall for it. There aren't enough that see through it to ever make a difference. If you figure it out, once you get over the shock, you have to manipulate the game the way the elite have designed it to protect yourself. Either that, or waste your life as a martyr. Don't hate the player, hate the game as we say in the States.

[Arrowwind]

I have been a follower of lindsey Williams for over 3 years. People should have the full perspective on who he is and it is a fact and it is not besides the point.. it is integral to who he is.

[jackovesk]

I have been a follower of lindsey Williams for over 3 years. People should have the full perspective on who he is and it is a fact and it is not besides the point.. it is integral to who he is.

"it is integral to who he is"

Yeah, A man who has risked not only his only his own life, but his own family's life aswell to bring this information to you for free!

Nothing wrong with a retired 70+ year old trying provide for his family, besides it's up to the individuals own (Free Will) if they want buy his CD's & DVD's, etc.

Again it's all available on the net or Free!

[Ahkenaten]

How the "Dominoes Will Fall"?
I think that Lindsey Williams has this one nailed about right.

Within the next couple of years, the U.S. Dollar will lose its status as the world's reserve currency and lose one-half to two-thirds of its purchasing power in the world's markets. The prices that Americans pay for imported goods (oil, manufactures, food) will double or triple. U.S. domestic contracts, mortgages, taxes, wages and salaries, retirement payouts, and domestic goods and services will maintain relatively constant in U.S. Dollar terms. Most Americans will feel poorer as a result.

Nations that have accumulated large amounts of U.S. debt (Middle East, Japan, China, ...) will lose great amounts of purchasing power for that debt. Unless they have planned well for that eventuality (China) they will be poorer.

The U.S. will begin to replace oil imports with more domestic coal, gas and oil, though there will be a transition period that will be rough.

Paul - aren't there signs that the US dollar has ALREADY lost about 1/3 of its value, i.e. purchasing power, due to the inflation - especially with respect to food? I went to the grocery store today, for example and spent $64 dollars for: a container of half and half, 2 small containers of cottage cheese, 2 4-section packets of yeast, one head of red lettuce, one large bin of French Roast Coffee, one packet of lasagna pasta, 6 small tins of Friskie's catfood (salmon) one small can of mushroom soup, one 16 oz bottle of juice, one dozen brown eggs (none of these items were organic which would have cost more!) AND one $4 Mega Millions Quick Pix Lottery Ticket!! I gave the guy a $100 bill - and got the change, but these days it seems like I am using $100 bills like I used to use tens or twenties, doesn't it seem like that to anyone else? Inflation. Our money just ain't going very far. It's bad out there - VERY VERY HARD FOR FAMILIES AND PEOPLE LIVING ON LOW/FIXED INCOMES!!

[ThePythonicCow]

Paul - aren't there signs that the US dollar has ALREADY lost about 1/3 of its value,Yes .

[Peta Babkama Luruba Anaku]

Thank you very much Zook for this great thread. I hope everyones paying attention. Sadly I don't think they are. Here is the next series of interviews with Lindsey Williams. Please start with the ones Zook has been kind enough to provide that are dated 2-22-11 as this series is dated 2-23-11

Enjoy.

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4. K6WF_nEVb9I

P.S. Sorry I could not figure out how to embed these as the typical way I have done so in the past wasn't working. If you know how please feel free to PM me and I will do so. It would be good for me to learn as well. Thanks

P.S.s Thank you Arrowind. Though I don't think Lindsey Williams is drumming up business for himself it is an interesting side note. Thanks.

[sjkted]

It seems that like everything else, they're trying to keep this devaluation covert. If your $100 will only buy 2/3 of the groceries it did last year, the solution is to keep the packaging the same but lower the portion size and add more air to the packages. Stupid Americans -- nobody will notice they keep getting less each time.

--sjkted

[ThePythonicCow]

P.S. Sorry I could not figure out how to embed these as the typical way I have done so in the past wasn't working. If you know how please feel free to PM me and I will do so. It would be good for me to learn as well. Thanks

The Youtube videos (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?13076-Youtube-videos) thread explains how to embed Youtube videos.

[baggywrinkle]

After constant research for five years I feel like the best way to describe what is ahead to to imagine yourself in any western country in 1931. What lies ahead is nothing less than
twenty four years of hardship and a world war. (Great Britan did not end rationing until the mid fifties). For some it was the end of the world, but most maintained.

It does need to be tended to with a sense of focused urgency, yet there is no need for panic. So don't jump out a window just yet

[Northern Boy]

I didn`t read the whole thread but its a beautiful plan till we get to here

There will be 'NO' Food Shortage! The Grocery shelves will be fully stocked. BUT most people will not be able to afford it!

Does any one really think millions of starving people are going to allow overpriced food to sit on the shelves and do nothing about it ? Fat chance in hell they will overrun the stores and take it

[Peta Babkama Luruba Anaku]

P.S. Sorry I could not figure out how to embed these as the typical way I have done so in the past wasn't working. If you know how please feel free to PM me and I will do so. It would be good for me to learn as well. Thanks

The Youtube videos (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?13076-Youtube-videos) thread explains how to embed Youtube videos.

Thanks Paul. I was hoping to do it that way but there was no = to follow off of. Any other way you may know of on how to do it?

Thanks and much appreciated,

George

[ThePythonicCow]

Thanks Paul. I was hoping to do it that way but there was no = to follow off of. Any other way you may know of on how to do it? Aha - good point. I have just updated the Youtube videos (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?13076-Youtube-videos) thread to account for this case. Look at what I just added to step 1 (including a screen shot of this very Alex Jones video URL), and see if that helps. Thanks for pointing this out.

[Peta Babkama Luruba Anaku]

Thanks Paul. I was hoping to do it that way but there was no = to follow off of. Any other way you may know of on how to do it? Aha - good point. I have just updated the Youtube videos (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?13076-Youtube-videos) thread to account for this case. Look at what I just added to step 1 (including a screen shot of this very Alex Jones video URL), and see if that helps. Thanks for pointing this out.

Your a kind soul. Thanks

[Arrowwind]

I have been a follower of lindsey Williams for over 3 years. People should have the full perspective on who he is and it is a fact and it is not besides the point.. it is integral to who he is.

"it is integral to who he is"

Yeah, A man who has risked not only his only his own life, but his own family's life aswell to bring this information to you for free!

Nothing wrong with a retired 70+ year old trying provide for his family, besides it's up to the inviduals own (Free Will) if they want buy his CD's & DVD's, etc.

Again it's all available on the net or Free!

How you view what Lindsey does for a living will be based on your own personal beliefs, filters or prejudices. I am just stating the facts.

[jackovesk]

I have been a follower of lindsey Williams for over 3 years. People should have the full perspective on who he is and it is a fact and it is not besides the point.. it is integral to who he is.

"it is integral to who he is"

Yeah, A man who has risked not only his only his own life, but his own family's life aswell to bring this information to you for free!

Nothing wrong with a retired 70+ year old trying provide for his family, besides it's up to the inviduals own (Free Will) if they want buy his CD's & DVD's, etc.

Again it's all available on the net or Free!

How you view what Lindsey does for a living will be based on your own personal beliefs, filters or prejudices. I am just stating the facts.


Whatever you say Arrowwind,

I just listen to what the man has to say, that's all.

I'm done with semantics, but everyones opinion is valued here at Avalon.

If you must continue, please feel free to do so.

Regards,
Jack

[John Parslow]

Hello Zook

Many thanks for posting these excellent links. Hope all is well with you.

Best regards. JP :cool:

[PathWalker]

One very dominant aspect is left out of the equation.
The developing world is coming out with free over unity energy (http://peswiki.com/index.php/Main_Page). The NWO failed to block it.
That is part of the NWO, they must execute the plan before the free energy is publicly available.
Other important factory is the ability to govern, as the truth comes out. TPTB lose their ability to govern and effect the public, that is the transition point (chaos bifurcation point). So we do not know what will happen.
I am very optimistic, I trust in the conscious spirit of the awakening public.

As Lindsey said and the native indigenous. You can not plan for the political change, nor the earth changes. Only your spiritual growth.

Transcend fear with love, learn compassion. To your self, humans and the planet.
That will make the change.

[AlkaMyst]

:wave: Hi Everyone,

*********UPDATE**************

Sorry for double posting, didn't realized that it this has been posted already....My apologies!

Blessings,
AlkaMyst

[Arrowwind]

Please explain to me logically how if China starts to purchase ALL their oil from Russia instead of Arab states how that is going to make the price of oil rise for us?

Even if all those T Bills default for Arabia who will they have to sell their oil to if not us? Seems that with china bowing out as a purchaser it would make the price go down not up.

on another issue, we had a water well dug a couple of years ago and the men who dug it said that they use to do oil exploration and well digging in Montana and the Dakotas with a big company in the 70'd. According to them they found a ton of oil, a huge amount of oil and they were told to cap it and keep their mouths shut. All the oil is ready to go. Just got to put pumps on the wells and set up distribution.

[sjkted]

Does any one really think millions of starving people are going to allow overpriced food to sit on the shelves and do nothing about it ? Fat chance in hell they will overrun the stores and take it


Yeah, for some reason I keep thinking about the LA riots. Although, this would probably be a much more multi-ethnic, equal opportunity, no discrimination riot.

--sjkted

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Please explain to me logically how if China starts to purchase ALL their oil from Russia instead of Arab states how that is going to make the price of oil rise for us?


He's saying all of the oil in Russia has been spoken for and the US won't be able to buy it.

At the same time, the chaos in the middle east drives up the prices and eventually halts production, meaning we will not be able to buy from the only remaining supplier thus necessitating local production of oil once again.

--sjkted

[ThePythonicCow]

Please explain to me logically how if China starts to purchase ALL their oil from Russia instead of Arab states how that is going to make the price of oil rise for us?

Even if all those T Bills default for Arabia who will they have to sell their oil to if not us? Seems that with china bowing out as a purchaser it would make the price go down not up.
You are thinking of the price of oil as if it depended on the usual supply and demand curves. If more is available, or if demand declines, then price falls. If supply is reduced or demand increases, then price rises.

That is not what is happening.

Imagine what would happen to the (dollar denominated) price of whatever Americans import if the Federal Reserve printed up tens of trillions dollars and handed them out to whomever held US Treasury or mortgage-backed debt or interest rate swaps. Dollars would become worth quite a bit less. Prices (as denominated in dollars) would rise, not because of short supply or excess demand for goods, but because of excess supply of dollars.

Well ... that's what's happening.

We Americans gave the Arabs trillions of dollars of US Treasury bonds in exchange for their oil. Now we are giving them trillions of dollars of "money" (heck, not even real paper, just computer keystrokes) in exchange for that debt. We Americans have also exchanged Arab oil for gold, but mostly not for actual physical delivered gold, rather for gold futures (COMEX and LBMA gold, supposedly real, until you ask to take delivery of too much.)

The dollar denominated price of crude oil is not controlled by classic supply-demand markets. It is controlled by an oil cartel, which seeks to maximize profit and power.

Bottom line: if you own the "printing press" for a currency, you can cause general price fluctuations by changing how much currency is in circulation. It's easy to get out of debt, if you can just print money.

Some of the above will be hidden behind the revolutions in the Middle East, causing an apparent supply shortage, justifying the higher price. But the decision to raise the price is causing the revolutions, not the other way around.

[Arrowwind]

What Lindsey also said that China would not be purchasing from the middle east... so the middle east has to sell to someone,, and I assume that would mostly be us... considering our need and their need to sell.

Oh well. we will see what we will see. personally, it seems to me that eventually this will jump start our ecomony again if we suppply our own oil... that will be a lot of jobs, tax income etc... and perhaps that is what Lindsey was referring to when he said we would go down then back up as an ecomonic force.

Meanwhile get ready for whatever comes.

[Ol' Roy]

Why do you think, people like Ted Turner are buying up half of Montana? Possibly, the vast amounts of oil. Just guessing! IMHO

Ol'Roy

[NunoSav]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qcfqid8oi8&feature=channel

Starts at 40seconds.

Seems like he predicted the same back then and he got the financial crisis right.

[Peta Babkama Luruba Anaku]

What Lindsey also said that China would not be purchasing from the middle east... so the middle east has to sell to someone,, and I assume that would mostly be us... considering our need and their need to sell.

I believe what Lindsay was saying (I may be wrong on this) is after the American Govt reneges on the original deal with the Arabs then they will then begin the process of tapping into to their own (Americas) vast but hush hush oil supply. Therefore it will eliminate the need for the Americans to go through Arab pipelines. That "someone" who they need to sell to will no be longer be America as they have a large enough hidden and untapped supply that potentially will last till the year 2042.

I believe that, that is enough of a timeline to get Renewable Green Energy in place. If that is something America and the world are heading towards. The keyword being IF.

[Arrowwind]

What Lindsey also said that China would not be purchasing from the middle east... so the middle east has to sell to someone,, and I assume that would mostly be us... considering our need and their need to sell.

I believe what Lindsay was saying (I may be wrong on this) is after the American Govt reneges on the original deal with the Arabs then they will then begin the process of tapping into to their own (Americas) vast but hush hush oil supply. Therefore it will eliminate the need for the Americans to go through Arab pipelines. That "someone" who they need to sell to will no be longer be America as they have a large enough hidden and untapped supply that potentially will last till the year 2042.

I believe that, that is enough of a timeline to get Renewable Green Energy in place. If that is something America and the world are heading towards. The keyword being IF.

My understanding of that deal made way back when is that Kissinger agreed with Arabia that we would be the main purchaser of their oil, they could count on us, if they bought T notes from us....so many T notes for so much oil.

Now the T notes are heading to be worthless and of course Arabia does not want them anymore, along with China. So does that mean that Arabia will stop selling us oil? Does that mean that Oil prices are going to go up because they will no longer make money off of T bills?

If we do not purchase the vast amount of oil from Arabia that we usually do, who will? Is there some other nation to purchase that oil in sufficient quantity on a daily basis? Since China will be out of the picture as they will be getting their oil from Russia, who will buy all the Arab Oil to keep their econonmy afloat? Could this not be a huge problem for Arabia? Seems the need buyers at a significantly high quantity. Would they not have incentive to keep prices low so we don't develop our oil fields?

[ThePythonicCow]

If we do not purchase the vast amount of oil from Arabia that we usually do, who will?
No one. Their oil is running short. They have already sold most of what they will ever sell.


Could this not be a huge problem for Arabia? Seems the need buyers at a significantly high quantity. Would they not have incentive to keep prices low so we don't develop our oil fields?
Yes, it will be a huge problem for Arabia. There is no need for buyers of significant quantity however, since there will not be significant Arabian oil to sell. The Arabs do not control the price of crude, nor do they control who buys or who sells or how much. Their leaders sign the contracts proffered, or else new leaders are found.

[Peta Babkama Luruba Anaku]

I think and again maybe I am not hearing it correctly or misunderstanding Lindsay's message, but yes oil prices are going to go up to $150 to $200 a barrel. At this point the dollar will collapse. I believe he mentions at the end of 2012. There are many other nations that will purchase the oil ie Germany and so on and perhaps for little money on the barrel. Perhaps those nations might even do so for mass reserves. I think that is one of the big questions for Arabs and their future. Who will keep their economy afloat? I think Lindsay blurted out a warning to any Arab nations listening that they are headed back to the camel days. Again I can only speculate and perhaps my interpretation of Lindsay's message is wrong. In fact there is a good chance of that. Either way you look at, Arab nations are not going to be happy and that could be cause for some serious problems. The overall message from Lindsay is still the eventual emergence of the NWO I believe.

*If I am wrong someone please correct so I am on the right track.

[Arrowwind]

So we are suppose to believe that Arabia is running out of oil,
Perhaps just like we were lead to believe that oil is quite limiited here in the states

[ThePythonicCow]

So we are suppose to believe that Arabia is running out of oil,
Perhaps just like we were lead to believe that oil is quite limiited here in the states

Well, the official story is the Arabs have plenty of oil and the States little.

As usual, the best first approximation to the truth is the official story inverted.

[penn]

The ambition it takes to keep perpetuating this game of control could be used for so many good things.
The suffering of billions of people over milleniums is taking it's toll on my heart. I am exhausted just sympathizing with the people that have been starved, abused, tortured, killed and the rest of us used as experiments. If there was something that I could really do to help I sure would.

Charles gave me an ounce of hope that we could turn the ship around but I am starting to doubt it is possible. All the brilliant people on this forum gave me hope that we could do something. Today it all feels to big to turn around.

I will prepare the best I can for a rocky road ahead and when the bottom falls out of the market we might have a chance for free energy, free choice with our food, free health care choices, the ability to know our true history, and the ability to build a new future.

Maybe the market won't crash completely but I am starting to think it is the only way to flip the switch and free humanity to live with respect in truth and love. If that is what it takes then I guess we will handle that too.

This gal is going to take a break from here. Hopefully when I return I will be past my doom and gloom feelings of the past few days and will be inspired to dream once again.

Peace to all,
Penn

[Peta Babkama Luruba Anaku]

Hello again all,

Here is todays March 01 2011 Alex Jones w/ Lindsey Williams

PT 1
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or

http://www.youtube.com/user/TheAlexJonesChannel?blend=1&ob=5#p/u/3/H-ejWiDuVEc

PT 2
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or

http://www.youtube.com/user/TheAlexJonesChannel?blend=1&ob=5#p/u/2/zNC0V8l7OLk

Viewer Discretion is advised. As always.

Enjoy