Salvia May be Banned in Canada

[Gaia]

Honestly why don't you worry about something that is actually killing people, like cigarettes or alcohol ? How bout computer duster? But no, lets outlaw natural products like marijuana, salvia and mushrooms, things that come naturally from the earth. But its totally ok to smoke and drink chemicals. Hmmm, does it have anything to do with the USA ? I wonder...

How many people died from Tylenol this year ????


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The hallucinogenic plant salvia, sometimes known as Seer’s Sage or Diviner’s Sage may be banned in Canada soon.

Some noted effects of salvia are:

* Uncontrollable laughter
* Past memories, such as revisiting places from childhood memory
* Sensations of motion, or being pulled or twisted by forces
* Visions of membranes, films and various two-dimensional surfaces
* Merging with or becoming objects
* Overlapping realities, such as the perception of being in several locations at once

Salvia has been traditionally used by the Mazatec in Mexico to induce visions associated with spiritual experiences. The plant is native to Oaxaca and grows naturally at elevations of 1,000 to 6,000 feet. Mazatecs are the indigenous people of the Oxaca area. They have been known to use a variety of plants such as morning glory seeds, coleus leaves, psilocybe mushrooms in addition to salvia for religious rituals.

In Canada and the United States, youth have been using salvia in a recreational way at parties, but in Mexico in the context of Mazatec culture, it is not used like that at all. In Mazatec culture it has been given by senior shamans to train beginners in their spirituality. The doses start small and build up as the apprentice acclimates. The plant has been used in their rituals to see into the future, find lost objects, and identify robbers. It either was made into a tea, or to be chewed. It is also used medicinally to treat headaches, arthritis, anemia, digestive problems, and constipation as well as diarrhea.

If Canada is successful in passing the salvia ban, it will become illegal to buy, produce, possess, sell, import or export the Mexican plant. Currently is is being sold at head shops for about $20 to $80 for a small vial. Also web sites sell it, so access if fairly easy. In Canada about 7 percent of youth ages 15 – 24 said they have used it at least once. YouTube has many videos of young people smoking the plant and talking about their experiences, but done in a casual way, without any cultural significance, other than what a person would expect from inebriation from alcohol.

In the United States an estimate by the federal government put the number of people who have tried salvia at 1.8 million. According to the DEA salvia regulations have been implemented in the following countries: Australia, Belgium, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, Italy, Japan, Spain, and Sweden.

ABC News published a video about the dangers of salvia, with a small part about the positive benefits it could have for medicinal use.

[9eagle9]

I have used salvia for years for the treatment of chronic unbudgeable depression. And to promote access to other dimensions, awareness of personal energy, things of that nature. Interestingly enough the people who use it for depression don't have to reach an altered state of consciousness to get the beneficial effect. A puff or two once or twice a month. It would terrible that people who lived in that sort of prison most of their lives had their key out of it taken away.

Michigan has been threatening to ban it for years.

People get hold of things and use them irresponsibly and parents come unglued at the thought of their kid 'being' high. Any altered state of consciousness that is not authority approved is suspect. The plant can promote a healing crisis, I wish people understood that more before trying it. And hat it is a sacred plant and should be used in a sacred manner.Not to say just because its sacred you can't have fun with it. Someplace along the way probably because people take themselves way too seriously, sacredness became associated with sobriety and seriousness. But joy is the first expression of spirit. I've had several workshops on salvia and as the instructor the expectation is that remain in authority mode during the entire session. You just can't, the plant is the instructor and if it has me laughing me arse off, well....maybe it knew I needed to laugh.

Science (therefore the authorities) has a bug up its ass because it can't properly find out exactly what salvia is doing. Because salvia effects a place where science doesn't dare to go.

[Scout]

Some noted effects of salvia are:

* Uncontrollable laughter
* Past memories, such as revisiting places from childhood memory
* Sensations of motion, or being pulled or twisted by forces
* Visions of membranes, films and various two-dimensional surfaces
* Merging with or becoming objects
* Overlapping realities, such as the perception of being in several locations at once



I would take these over the side effects of most prescription drugs. I wonder how they are going to find a way to demonize it? Honestly, it is wake up time. Wake up human race! WAKE UP!

[TigaHawk]

I KNOW!

*gently pats mary jane*

What i do not understand, is how poor Mary here is labeled a criminal, killer, a brain destroyer. When it's nothing more than a 100% NATURAL PLANT that grow's out of the ground. One rule apply's with everything - MODERATION. Forget that rule and you're hopeless.

I do not understand, how cigorette companies are able to sell smokes laced with rat poision and chemicals used to clean you're everyday kitchen. Yet it is ILLIGEAL to grow or have a tobacco plant of you're own - which your'e forced to do if you want to smoke plane Tobacco leaves - without all the lovely addatives.

Alcohol makes people violent, and the "Moderation" rule is much much much more aparent in its damages with alcohol than with mary jane.....


yet one is illigeal. one is not.


"You're only allowed the stuff that will hurt you're body and eventualy kill you. Everything natural that may even be beneficial is HANDS OFF!"

[Teakai]

It's already banned here.

[Hughe]

That's called public sick care system!!

Make the people sick under the name of health care, once they sick enough they will take care patients because patients will have to spend every ****ing money to survive and make them look good! And patients looks happy "Look at me, I'm still alive."

A friend of mine is a cancer survivor but she lost everything she got during the treatment. How many cancer patient die every year in Canada only? I like to know. There are so many cancer related fund raising all around year.

Nowadays, the real drug sellers who work for big franchise drug stores earn more money than real doctors. Unbelievable. I bet most dentists favor the water fluoridation cause it makes them keep profiting from general public.

How many hours they teach kids how to have healthy living in public education system?

[Gaia]

I just relayed my personal experiences, saying that I suffer from TRD (Treatment-resistant Depression) and that Salvia has been an immense comfort (almost cure) to me for many years now. I basically begged them not to make it illegal, but that I do see the need to control sales of it. My daughter asked some questions when she saw it displayed at a local convenience store a couple years ago, and I don't lie to my child. They were still some hard questions to answer, and I can see people being concerned with the way things are at present.

Do the politicians care at all ? Or do they have hidden agendas ? Do they realize that the difference in respectful use and reckless use is the difference in someone who drinks a little and doesn't suffer for it, and someone who drinks a fifth every night, cursing the family and getting in the car plastered ?

http://www.salvia-divinorum.fr/180px-Salvia_divinorum_-_Herba_de_Maria.jpg

Remember, Canada is officially the biggest narco state in the world . I guess criminalizing salvia will allow mass production of salvia in forest grow-ops and warehouses for vast profit. Who wants to sell muffins and racoon hats ?

[Merkaba360]

I KNOW!

*gently pats mary jane*

What i do not understand, is how poor Mary here is labeled a criminal, killer, a brain destroyer. When it's nothing more than a 100% NATURAL PLANT that grow's out of the ground. One rule apply's with everything - MODERATION. Forget that rule and you're hopeless.

I do not understand, how cigorette companies are able to sell smokes laced with rat poision and chemicals used to clean you're everyday kitchen. Yet it is ILLIGEAL to grow or have a tobacco plant of you're own - which your'e forced to do if you want to smoke plane Tobacco leaves - without all the lovely addatives.


Are you just venting? I'm sure u must know the answer to this and truly do understand why the machine can do anything it wants, unless we stop them.

Surely this isn't about reasoning or anything like that. Mind control isn't supposed to make sense. There is no heart or thought in slavery, only impulse. So why try to rationalize irrational people who know its irrational. They say the devil is no heart, no mind, only sex !! In other words only root chakra pure desire/lust.

There are loads of people confused as to why the people in charge do 'such and such.' They just can't seem to see the obvious......rape and pillage. Meanwhile they concoct all these arguments to impress their friends on how wrong some politician is for his absurd idea. Lots of wasted energy occurs. It wasn;t absurd all along. It was a brilliant idea to enslave people.

[Arrowwind]

My opinion is that one of the main reasons that marijuana remains illegal is the it can cure cancer.
How would that affect the multibillion dollar cancer industry if you could grow your own cure or grow for others?

We can still go and by salvia in local plant nurseries in the USA
its a perrenial. stock up now. plant it in wild meadows

[Gaia]

Gouvernement spend in Canada 500 millions a year nationwide on arresting and jailing misdemeanor marijuana users:sarcastic: The AMA in 1937 didn't want cannabis out-lawed because it has medicinal values, they knew it then as they know it now.

[shybastid]

Salvia is not pot. It is definetly not a recreational "social" mind enhancer, to play with as a party game.

They talked about making illegal here in California.

After all the attention it got,sales increased .
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/13625007
Miley did'nt help either.

Kids here in Cal. gave it the once over, and decided not to "fool with mother nature" on that one.

It probably is good for depression. Once the "lady" decides to scare you,your so relieved to get back to reality, life seems pretty good.:tape2:

[Koyaanisqatsi]

I actually own a company that makes and sells salvia(paperstreetsalviaco.com)plug, plug, plug. If you try our 50x product, please have a baysitter because often times folks like to get up and move (usually in circles) while under its heavy influence. Definitely expands ones concept of space and time. Similar to mushrooms in that respect, IMO.

If you're interested in trying, PM me for a hook up ;)

[Rocky_Shorz]

I mentioned on my trip to Brazil, that on my 3 month travels I became really sick one day and had a local "doctor" come by to help...

he gave me a mixture and afterward explained he opened myself up to the light so I would heal myself...

years later, when this stone washed up to my feet at the beach...

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=309&thumb=1&d=1294617902http://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=307&thumb=1&d=1294617668

I bent down to pick it up and instantly saw an image of an Indian blowing through the stone...

after looking closer at it I realized the shape was perfect, put the twigs in the opening, drop a coal in it and it creates almost a blow torch out the side from just a breeze coming off the ocean. Perfect for lighting fires...

just recently I had another dream about the monkey head stone being used by a Shaman, the two shallow holes next to the big one held herbs, the coal sitting in the deep hole... they would brush the herbs over the coal and it burst into a smoke that poured through the side, set in a doorway to let the smoke fill a room.

one of the herbs was diviners weed... Salvia...

then I had another image of the "doctor" who made my medicine using the same herb...

Here in America it is illegal to consume as a food or medicine but can be sold to smoke...

[Tangri]

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Sincerely Love and Peace
This is not an addiction substance user does not have will for second attempt if they were looking hallucinogenic substans.
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