Blue
24th February 2011, 15:54
Originally Posted by Chuck
There have been posts by others referencing some material that have been very helpful for me to come to grips with the very fine concerns raised here.
For example the post by Leon
Originally Posted by Leon
I found the following on Wiki this may be of some interest:
http://wikicompany.org/wiki/911:Black_Nobility
and the one immediately below it by Rocky_Shorz quoting some of the material
* "I am a generational member of a Ruling Bloodline Family. Every so often, as per the directives of the Law of our Creator, a brief window of opportunity opens, whereby a select handful of our Family are required to make communication with our subjects, and offer you the chance to ask us any questions you would like answered. I am double-bound in this duty. It is required of me by The Law of our Creator to offer this opportunity to you at this time, though I am also bound by the Law of (planetary) Free Will and by Family Oaths, that there is only so much I am able to say."
* "Our Lineage can be traced back beyond antiquity. From the earliest times of your recorded 'history', and beyond, our Family has been 'directing' the 'play' from behind the scenes, in one way or another. Before the rise and fall of Atlantis. (Yes, that was indeed perfectly real). We are 'born to lead'. It is part of the design for this current paradigm. The breeding is generally case specific, dependent upon the role that the Family members in question are due to grow into. I will touch more on this in answer to the next poster's question that you rephrased. There are no unapproved unions. Our Family will always intermarry between lines, or, what we would term 'Houses'. Marriages are arranged. In all my years alive, I have never seen or heard of a Family member breaking this code, as far as marriage goes. You do as you are told. One cannot 'join' the Family. One is 'born', or incarnated into it. On the rare instances of a child being born that could be seen as bringing 'difficulties', you are correct in your premise, that it would be raised as part of the Family, though would not grow up in the house or community of either of it's parents."
* "You need to first understand the structure of the Family. In the grand scheme of things, the Line is not as important as the House, the House, is not as important as the Family. The Family is all. No matter the House or Line, we are One (truly international) Family." (...) "Our realms of influence do not fit as comfortably into the three boxes of your triangle as you may imagine. There are six disciplines of training within the Family, and each member of the Family is schooled extensively in all of them, from early childhood. We all have an area of specialty, though we have experience in all spheres. The six spheres or 'schools' of learning are Military, Government, Spiritual, Scholarship, Leadership, and Sciences. In practice, out there on the 'stage' of public life, we hold key positions in all of these main areas of importance. With the addition of a complicit Media machine and ownership of your Financial establishments, all bases are covered."
* "... knowing the line is of no practical use to you. It is the belonging to the Family that is important. There are 13 'base' or 'core' original bloodlines. Yet there are many many other lines that spring from these, as do rivers from the oceans. If you imagine the 13 Original lines as Primary colour, that can be mixed to create a vast array of other colours, then you will have some comprehension. Again, no competition, just Family."
* "[The term "generational member"] means that one is born into the Family. The Order and it's agenda is handed down, from generation to generation. Only in extremely rare occasions, have outsiders been invested into the Family, and then, even these were of other 'esoterically' integrable lines."
* "Question: Are we really considered chattel and traded as such by the government? By the governments, generally, yes. People are seen as 'collateral'. Pawns that are maneuvered around the chess board, according to the game plan. By the Family, contrary to popular beliefs, many of us do not mean you any harm directly. There is just the matter of divine destiny to uphold and unfold, and we must play our parts in the game, as given to us by the Creator. In many ways, it is actually in our own interest that you are prepared for the coming Harvest. Just not maybe prepared in quite the way that you would like. Still, even then, you are choosing the Negative Polarity with your own Free Will decisions, with a little 'help' and direction from us. Souls are Harvestable in either 'extreme' of the Polarities, one could say."
* "You will never be 'free', for as long as you are incarnating on this planet. The very nature of your being here, is indication of that. There is a reason why you are here, and 'here' is very likely not really where you think 'here' is. How do you become free? By working out where you are, and coming to an understanding, of why you are here. You are fast running out of time to do so, before the coming Harvest. Those that don't make it, will have to repeat the cycle."
* "The British Royalty is not the most powerful line. The names that you know, do not hold the real ancient power. There are others above these lineages in the Hierarchy. You will not know the names of these lines."
* "I would be considered to be a "Regional" leader. Above me, are National and International."
* "It is very important to us, that the Polarization of this planet is Negative at the time of the Great Harvest. That means Service to Self orientated, as opposed to Positive, Service to Others. We require a Negative Harvest, and you are doing a fine job of helping us to attain our goal. We are very grateful."
o "Understand, that we HAVE to be Negative. That's what we were sent here to be. It is our contract, and it has always been to help you, by providing the "Catalyst" I spoke of earlier. Being Negative is very hard for us, not on a physical level, (the characters we play enjoy our roles, as we're programmed that way), but on a Spiritual level, it is hard. We surpassed the lowly negative vibrations eons ago. We are Light, and we are Love. It is a very hard thing for us to do Spiritually, to create all this Negativity, but we do it because we love you, and it is for your highest good, ultimately. You could say, that it is our Sacrifice that we have made, in order to be of Service to the One Infinite Creator, and to you, our Brothers and Sisters in the One. Remember, we are all just acting out a grand old game here, where we agree to forget who we really are, that in the remembering, that we may find each other again, and know that we are One. That All of Life, is One."
o "Our initial contract, was to introduce the Catalyst for Free Will on this planet. When Yahweh initially began discourse with the Council of Elders, he was not initially looking for help with introducing Free Will, but rather for guidance on how he could best speed up his (and his inhabitant's) evolutionary process."
o "As for "fighting for the freedom of all souls", remember that ultimately, this is a Game, that we are all playing here. We are actors, playing on the "stage of Life". This 'world' is all illusion, or 'though-form'. No one really "dies", and no one is really hurt. In between incarnations, you know this very well. But the rules of the game ensure that you must forget who you really are, so that you believe it is all 'real' whilst you are playing the game of Life. That is an essential prerequisite when you are making choices. Otherwise, the game would be too easy."
o "In order to "win" (or more accurately to be successful in) the Game, we must be as Negatively Polarized as possible. Service to Self in the extreme. Violence, War, Hatred, Greed, Control, Enslavement, Genocide, Torture, Moral Degradation, Prostitution, Drugs, all these things and more, they serve our purpose. The difference between us and you, in the Game, is that we know that we are 'playing'. The less you know about the Game, and the less you remember that you're a player, the more 'senseless' living becomes. In all these Negative things, we are providing you with tools. But you do not see it. It is not what we do, but how you react to it, that is important. We give you the tools. You have the Free Will choice how you will use them. You have to take responsibility. There is only One of Us here. Understand that, and you will understand the Game."
o "When one understands and sees that all is Illusion, or Thought, one can "use 'The Force' to manipulate the illusions. All things, seen and unseen, are inter-connected Life-Force Energy. Once you know what the magician knows, it's not magic. It's a 'tool of Creation'."
This is from a large document called the Hidden Hand material that modwiz and qbeac had referenced
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ar...ialogue_hh.pdf
Above link was removed so edit to...
http://www.wearechange.in/joomla/ind...-news&Itemid=1
end edit
I recommend it because it describes very well the contractual obligation of the elite to engineer a negative polarity of the planet for the up coming harvest. The extreme negativity provides a catalyst for all of us to aid in accelerated evolution. By presented with duality we exercise our free choice.
So it's about how we react, staying centered, in the eye of the hurricane ...knowing full well that the veil clouds our memory and our vision. We'll continue to be "poked in the chest" at an accelerated rate.
I thank you all for helping me through this process.
Hi,
This is from the link "A question for Bill Ryan - will he meet the group"
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?12280-A-question-for-Bill-Ryan-will-he-meet-the-group
and I went off topic so thought I would start a new thread to find out how many people think that you have to suffer in life to evolve!
I read the main message in the bubble thingy and was really quite shocked by the sentiment behind it. I think its basically saying that the "Ruling BLoodline Family" want us to be as "Negatively Polarized as possible" And that they want us to experience as much "Violence, War, Hatred, Greed, Control, Enslavement, Genocide, Torture, Moral Degradation, Prostitution, Drugs, all these things and more" so we can evolve as fast as we can, as it part of their plan and that they are doing this from a place of love and light.
I dont know who wrote this and supposing its not a hoax or written by someone mentally ill, to me its the most warped idealogy I have come across.
I have always thought we are born actually pretty much ok in the first instance and if we grow up nurtured and supported and avoid unnecessary suffering ( I dont mean avoiding life experiences like relationships, work challenges, finding out what you want to do in life) but suffering due to say attachment to bad relationships, drugs, or suffering by being too accepting of situations or attitudes, then we can evolve through experiencing the beauty in the world and in the people around us, evolve through the practice of kindness, empathy, love and compassion!
I dont understand the logic of being born pretty much ok, then suffering loads so we evolve so we get back to where we were in the first place when we were born.
Is it all a big scam by the "Ruling BLoodline Family" to keep us down with the promise that its good for us and thats why we are here? And this scam is perpetuated and reinforced by religious institutions and government who say yes to war etc far too easily?
I would say our best retaliation is not to suffer and be happy! What would they do then. . . .
Just a thought,
blue
There have been posts by others referencing some material that have been very helpful for me to come to grips with the very fine concerns raised here.
For example the post by Leon
Originally Posted by Leon
I found the following on Wiki this may be of some interest:
http://wikicompany.org/wiki/911:Black_Nobility
and the one immediately below it by Rocky_Shorz quoting some of the material
* "I am a generational member of a Ruling Bloodline Family. Every so often, as per the directives of the Law of our Creator, a brief window of opportunity opens, whereby a select handful of our Family are required to make communication with our subjects, and offer you the chance to ask us any questions you would like answered. I am double-bound in this duty. It is required of me by The Law of our Creator to offer this opportunity to you at this time, though I am also bound by the Law of (planetary) Free Will and by Family Oaths, that there is only so much I am able to say."
* "Our Lineage can be traced back beyond antiquity. From the earliest times of your recorded 'history', and beyond, our Family has been 'directing' the 'play' from behind the scenes, in one way or another. Before the rise and fall of Atlantis. (Yes, that was indeed perfectly real). We are 'born to lead'. It is part of the design for this current paradigm. The breeding is generally case specific, dependent upon the role that the Family members in question are due to grow into. I will touch more on this in answer to the next poster's question that you rephrased. There are no unapproved unions. Our Family will always intermarry between lines, or, what we would term 'Houses'. Marriages are arranged. In all my years alive, I have never seen or heard of a Family member breaking this code, as far as marriage goes. You do as you are told. One cannot 'join' the Family. One is 'born', or incarnated into it. On the rare instances of a child being born that could be seen as bringing 'difficulties', you are correct in your premise, that it would be raised as part of the Family, though would not grow up in the house or community of either of it's parents."
* "You need to first understand the structure of the Family. In the grand scheme of things, the Line is not as important as the House, the House, is not as important as the Family. The Family is all. No matter the House or Line, we are One (truly international) Family." (...) "Our realms of influence do not fit as comfortably into the three boxes of your triangle as you may imagine. There are six disciplines of training within the Family, and each member of the Family is schooled extensively in all of them, from early childhood. We all have an area of specialty, though we have experience in all spheres. The six spheres or 'schools' of learning are Military, Government, Spiritual, Scholarship, Leadership, and Sciences. In practice, out there on the 'stage' of public life, we hold key positions in all of these main areas of importance. With the addition of a complicit Media machine and ownership of your Financial establishments, all bases are covered."
* "... knowing the line is of no practical use to you. It is the belonging to the Family that is important. There are 13 'base' or 'core' original bloodlines. Yet there are many many other lines that spring from these, as do rivers from the oceans. If you imagine the 13 Original lines as Primary colour, that can be mixed to create a vast array of other colours, then you will have some comprehension. Again, no competition, just Family."
* "[The term "generational member"] means that one is born into the Family. The Order and it's agenda is handed down, from generation to generation. Only in extremely rare occasions, have outsiders been invested into the Family, and then, even these were of other 'esoterically' integrable lines."
* "Question: Are we really considered chattel and traded as such by the government? By the governments, generally, yes. People are seen as 'collateral'. Pawns that are maneuvered around the chess board, according to the game plan. By the Family, contrary to popular beliefs, many of us do not mean you any harm directly. There is just the matter of divine destiny to uphold and unfold, and we must play our parts in the game, as given to us by the Creator. In many ways, it is actually in our own interest that you are prepared for the coming Harvest. Just not maybe prepared in quite the way that you would like. Still, even then, you are choosing the Negative Polarity with your own Free Will decisions, with a little 'help' and direction from us. Souls are Harvestable in either 'extreme' of the Polarities, one could say."
* "You will never be 'free', for as long as you are incarnating on this planet. The very nature of your being here, is indication of that. There is a reason why you are here, and 'here' is very likely not really where you think 'here' is. How do you become free? By working out where you are, and coming to an understanding, of why you are here. You are fast running out of time to do so, before the coming Harvest. Those that don't make it, will have to repeat the cycle."
* "The British Royalty is not the most powerful line. The names that you know, do not hold the real ancient power. There are others above these lineages in the Hierarchy. You will not know the names of these lines."
* "I would be considered to be a "Regional" leader. Above me, are National and International."
* "It is very important to us, that the Polarization of this planet is Negative at the time of the Great Harvest. That means Service to Self orientated, as opposed to Positive, Service to Others. We require a Negative Harvest, and you are doing a fine job of helping us to attain our goal. We are very grateful."
o "Understand, that we HAVE to be Negative. That's what we were sent here to be. It is our contract, and it has always been to help you, by providing the "Catalyst" I spoke of earlier. Being Negative is very hard for us, not on a physical level, (the characters we play enjoy our roles, as we're programmed that way), but on a Spiritual level, it is hard. We surpassed the lowly negative vibrations eons ago. We are Light, and we are Love. It is a very hard thing for us to do Spiritually, to create all this Negativity, but we do it because we love you, and it is for your highest good, ultimately. You could say, that it is our Sacrifice that we have made, in order to be of Service to the One Infinite Creator, and to you, our Brothers and Sisters in the One. Remember, we are all just acting out a grand old game here, where we agree to forget who we really are, that in the remembering, that we may find each other again, and know that we are One. That All of Life, is One."
o "Our initial contract, was to introduce the Catalyst for Free Will on this planet. When Yahweh initially began discourse with the Council of Elders, he was not initially looking for help with introducing Free Will, but rather for guidance on how he could best speed up his (and his inhabitant's) evolutionary process."
o "As for "fighting for the freedom of all souls", remember that ultimately, this is a Game, that we are all playing here. We are actors, playing on the "stage of Life". This 'world' is all illusion, or 'though-form'. No one really "dies", and no one is really hurt. In between incarnations, you know this very well. But the rules of the game ensure that you must forget who you really are, so that you believe it is all 'real' whilst you are playing the game of Life. That is an essential prerequisite when you are making choices. Otherwise, the game would be too easy."
o "In order to "win" (or more accurately to be successful in) the Game, we must be as Negatively Polarized as possible. Service to Self in the extreme. Violence, War, Hatred, Greed, Control, Enslavement, Genocide, Torture, Moral Degradation, Prostitution, Drugs, all these things and more, they serve our purpose. The difference between us and you, in the Game, is that we know that we are 'playing'. The less you know about the Game, and the less you remember that you're a player, the more 'senseless' living becomes. In all these Negative things, we are providing you with tools. But you do not see it. It is not what we do, but how you react to it, that is important. We give you the tools. You have the Free Will choice how you will use them. You have to take responsibility. There is only One of Us here. Understand that, and you will understand the Game."
o "When one understands and sees that all is Illusion, or Thought, one can "use 'The Force' to manipulate the illusions. All things, seen and unseen, are inter-connected Life-Force Energy. Once you know what the magician knows, it's not magic. It's a 'tool of Creation'."
This is from a large document called the Hidden Hand material that modwiz and qbeac had referenced
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ar...ialogue_hh.pdf
Above link was removed so edit to...
http://www.wearechange.in/joomla/ind...-news&Itemid=1
end edit
I recommend it because it describes very well the contractual obligation of the elite to engineer a negative polarity of the planet for the up coming harvest. The extreme negativity provides a catalyst for all of us to aid in accelerated evolution. By presented with duality we exercise our free choice.
So it's about how we react, staying centered, in the eye of the hurricane ...knowing full well that the veil clouds our memory and our vision. We'll continue to be "poked in the chest" at an accelerated rate.
I thank you all for helping me through this process.
Hi,
This is from the link "A question for Bill Ryan - will he meet the group"
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?12280-A-question-for-Bill-Ryan-will-he-meet-the-group
and I went off topic so thought I would start a new thread to find out how many people think that you have to suffer in life to evolve!
I read the main message in the bubble thingy and was really quite shocked by the sentiment behind it. I think its basically saying that the "Ruling BLoodline Family" want us to be as "Negatively Polarized as possible" And that they want us to experience as much "Violence, War, Hatred, Greed, Control, Enslavement, Genocide, Torture, Moral Degradation, Prostitution, Drugs, all these things and more" so we can evolve as fast as we can, as it part of their plan and that they are doing this from a place of love and light.
I dont know who wrote this and supposing its not a hoax or written by someone mentally ill, to me its the most warped idealogy I have come across.
I have always thought we are born actually pretty much ok in the first instance and if we grow up nurtured and supported and avoid unnecessary suffering ( I dont mean avoiding life experiences like relationships, work challenges, finding out what you want to do in life) but suffering due to say attachment to bad relationships, drugs, or suffering by being too accepting of situations or attitudes, then we can evolve through experiencing the beauty in the world and in the people around us, evolve through the practice of kindness, empathy, love and compassion!
I dont understand the logic of being born pretty much ok, then suffering loads so we evolve so we get back to where we were in the first place when we were born.
Is it all a big scam by the "Ruling BLoodline Family" to keep us down with the promise that its good for us and thats why we are here? And this scam is perpetuated and reinforced by religious institutions and government who say yes to war etc far too easily?
I would say our best retaliation is not to suffer and be happy! What would they do then. . . .
Just a thought,
blue