Disclosure May Come Sooner Than You Think!

[Mandala]

A retired colonel said on AOL that there are aliens, but no coverup! Interesting, huh?
He thinks they have been dropping hints all along.

check out the article!

http://www.aolnews.com/2011/02/23/retired-army-colonel-says-ufos-are-real-but-denies-government-c/?icid=main%7Chtmlws-main-n%7Cdl3%7Csec3_lnk3%7C203128

[Northern Boy]

LOL yes its coming just not the disclosure you may think . It will be one of an alien invasion to take control of the earth . Any one Yes anyone including David Wilcock and Steven Greer who thinks other wise is only fooling themselves . Your TV shows and your movies make this glaringly evident . Its conditioning you to see aliens = invasion. The big question is why would these aliens wait till we developed a weapon to defeat them before trying to capture or take control of the earth

[truthseekerdan]

LOL yes its coming just not the disclosure you may think . It will be one of an alien invasion to take control of the earth . Any one Yes anyone including David Wilcock and Steven Greer who thinks other wise is only fooling themselves . Your TV shows and your movies make this glaringly evident . Its conditioning you to see aliens = invasion. The big question is why would these aliens wait till we developed a weapon to defeat them before trying to capture or take control of the earth

Because they want a fair battle...:wink:

:lol:

[Arrowwind]

Alien disclosure had been happening for a long long time.
Its the black box operations that are more concerning to me
and how they may be planning to deceive us and control us further.
False flag operations are not alien disclosures.

Can you discern the difference between the two?
If not, perhaps you could consider how you might do that

[Chicodoodoo]

Denying the denying! They must think we're complete idiots. Why wouldn't they -- they fooled us with 9/11, Afghanistan, Iraq, Vietnam, Korea, WWII, WWI, and so much more. It's all they know how to do.

[bodixa]

Wow - that is a very sold article IMHO - will be watching to see other media coverage over the next few days. I think we may be able to judge a lot then of how close we are to disclosure from how other media outlets handle this event - that one seems to have quite turned a corner, based on what I've read in the past. (Which probably isn't much compared to some people on here.)

Thanks for posting that. V interesting and positive.

[crosby]

Denying the denying! They must think we're complete idiots. Why wouldn't they -- they fooled us with 9/11, Afghanistan, Iraq, Vietnam, Korea, WWII, WWI, and so much more. It's all they know how to do.

i agree with your sentiment 100%. this man is just throwing poop in the breeze. if what he says is the truth, many people have died for coming forward and blowing the whistle in vain. i believe this mans statements to be false. anything less than the truth now, is not needed. one lie feeds another, feeds another.....and so on. they've got nothing left.
regards, corson

after reading a little further, i decided that my statement perhaps needed a little clarification. i find his stance that the information has always been in the disclosure form status, not to be true. the comments made by past presidents and other figures of authority have never been structured to commend a direct fact or authenticity. there are always words such as "if they do indeed exist", "if there were other beings", etc., this is where i find fault with what he says. now, if these past presidents, authority figures, made statements such as: these ufo's do exist and they are not of this planet, that makes a difference. we can't assume that other people's statements have validity when the words they choose, leave the door wide open for debate. and again, i stand by the statement earlier that if they had always been truthful, to the extent that we need them to be, many others would not have died trying to get the information out. i have no doubt that this colonel will have lots to say and to bring to the table, but i still think that the disinfo. is a major factor here.
corson

[Mandala]

Alexander's at the convention with Bill and Kerry. Maybe Bill will bring back some new information from some of the presenters.

Col. John Alexander, seems to be running damage control with what has happen in the past and has gotten out. After the past military officers came out with all their tales at Press Conference in Washington,D.C. in October of this year, Alexander probably thought it time to publish a book, get on the band wagon.

I agree with you, probably a set up for a false flag if they can pull it off.

His conclusions: Not only is there no such group and no cover-up, but disclosure about UFOs has already occurred on different official levels.

Retired Army Col. John Alexander says UFO disclosure has already occurred, and the ultimate solution to UFOs is more complex than most people think.

With so many people crying out these days for the U.S. government or the United Nations or even the Vatican to issue some sort of "we are not alone in the universe" disclosure statement, Alexander says the information has been dripping out all around us, over decades, with top officials casually making statements about UFOs.

He references this 1950 remark made by President Harry Truman: "I can assure you the flying saucers, given that they exist, are not constructed by any power on Earth."

"Disclosure has happened," Alexander added. "It starts with former presidents Truman, Carter, Reagan and [the Soviet Union's] Gorbachev. I've got stacks of generals, including Soviet generals, who've come out and said UFOs are real. My point is, how many times do senior officials need to come forward and say this is real?"

[Arrowwind]

Why is it that people feel a need for this corrupt governement to come clean on disclosure? How is it that you think they ever would? Does it make a difference in what you have experienced, and I assume many here have seen the ships for themselves. Do you think that if they disclose it will change anything and if so what?

What is your personal vision for the effect of disclosure? Do you think that it can be fullfilled via the government?

[write4change]

There are very few things I agree with Ronald Reagan about but his statement that the minute aliens are known to exist, we change our view of ourselves as Terrans or whatever we would start calling ourselves.

Like 911 which my eyes tell me is obvious and my heart that on a subliminal level at least everyone knows--the fact is people do not look or acknowledge looking until they are actually told this is the way it is.

The woman's consciousness movement began with my way of looking at it in 1968 but it is officially dated 1972. There may be two reasons for it and may be both are equally important. 1. Rockefeller foundation funded it so they could get to tax another huge population and reduce theirs. 2. That was the year that they found out it was the male sperm that determines a child sex. After that the obsession with a male heir became to finally start to subside at least among the educated. Until then you can still see and hear in plenty of movies the importance of the male heir and the firstborn being male.

So yes, I see acknowledgment as changing the world view. How it is done is what worries me.

[buckminster fuller]

gosh!

they crossed john travolta and bush junior...

[Darla Ken Pearce]

Because they want a fair battle...:wink:

:lol:[/QUOTE]
Why is it that people feel a need for this corrupt governement to come clean on disclosure? How is it that you think they ever would? Does it make a difference in what you have experienced, and I assume many here have seen the ships for themselves. Do you think that if they disclose it will change anything and if so what?

What is your personal vision for the effect of disclosure? Do you think that it can be fullfilled via the government?

You have made a great point. So many betrayals by our government ~ and lies ~ we already know from our own experiences and remembrance. Soon we will have new interim governments that actually works for the people and not the few. By holding off on disclosure, they are able to keep us enslaved, paying for cycles of endless war ~ look at Washington, D. C. where billions are being announced in Offensive Planes for Boeing by the military while foreclosures mount, homeless are on the streets, extreme weather, abuses by HAARP, no jobs are forthcoming, benefits cut, they are so far in DEEP space as far as the needs of the people, all you-know-what is sure to break loose at any moment. That people remain passive is just a sign that they haven't switched off their TV brainwashing tool of the elite and those in charge ~ as Charles has advised us. All this is changing and we are watching the signs without it registering.

Someone earlier in this thread talked about an Alien invasion. There is no such thing, there is, however, a divine intervention going on. Many Celestial beings are here to witness and assist in Earth's ascension. They are easy to distinguish from U.S. space vehicles and there are extensive fleets of earthbound ones ~ most U.S. vehicles consist of triangle shapes not round and not massive. Celestial Motherships are living beings and there is a great difference in something living and something made of non-organic materials. Will a false flag attempt be made by our military disguised as aliens?

If they are foolish enough to do something like that and well they may ~ If needed, one can expect our discernment to kick in upon disclosure and landing no matter which one comes first. Celestial Beings come in a wave of unconditional love, it is a very strong, loving, and tangible essence. it's the difference in being exposed to a personage, and we all know someone like this, who is filled with love that is emitted, when compared to say, going through TSA security prior to boarding a flight. There is and will be an unmistakable difference between how we feel and react to whoever comes forward first.

Disclosure must come from within our own hearts.

The Age of Piscses has ended where we must look to Saviors be they masters, governments, controllers, reptiles or other Gods. The Age of Aquarius means ~ it's you, you, you baby! We are each masters in our own right. We laid down our mantle when we asked to assist Earth and come here to experiment and conqueror the Third Dimension. While it may look and feel like we've been bamboozaled and lost on every front, that idea is far from the truth. We have won! What was needed after those who have played dark hats, was while engulfed in despair to have enough light be created on earth by enlightened beings through remembrance to be able to make this reconnection and go forth back into the light.

The light we left with as light beings ~ now has many colors, rays, and facets that pure light did not. We are now fully faceted beings. No longer Homo Sapiens but Homo Christos. No matter how things may appear, our Celestial Heavenly Hosts are our own selves from the future and we can choose to reclaim ourselves or not. We can wait on another Earth-like planet stuck in 3D for that planet to eventually evolve.

The choice is clear and I don't know about you but after 13 million years of reincarnating, I'm ready to move ahead and especially since we have accomplished everything we came here to do ~ that is, except for living in love and light with the abundance of heaven upon us but we can start doing it right now, this very moment and go forth bringing in a new day, a new dawn, a new Age and Renaissance of Spirit. We can ask to be put on the Ascension Timeline and get with the program or not. Our choice.

We have knowledge. We have remembrance. To get this started in remembering our past prior to these Earth experiences when we dwelt in higher heavenly realms, is to reconnect physicality with those higher powers. It's as simple as saying this with a bit of heart, "I ask that my axiatonal lines be reconnected, and so it is." There are others but this is the greatest leaping off point towards reconnection with body, spirit, etheric, and spiritual, as above, so below and you will feel a great change come over you, as I did, immediately and know it with a certainty. Chris Comish wrote a more formal attunement that is beautiful, enlightening, and explains it much better than I can: http://www. city of shamballa.ning.com ~ I have it to post, it's a LightWorker Attunement but haven't been able to figure out how to do it on Avalon.

As far as man made earthbound forces go, Celestial Beings continue to run circles around various branches of U.S. Space Command units. The whole world has ships out and around Yemen watching the Aden Stargate and all the traffic going to and fro within that porthole. They are drooling at the technology involved but can't touch it ~ just observe. They recently attempted to enter another stargate to time travel but it didn't turn out as well as they had planned. Their dark intent will always bar them from further progress. Until it changes ~ of course.

Earthbound units are like cave men in comparison to these exalted beings. One is Terrestrial and the other Celestial. It is going to require using our heart light to discern but it won't be all that hard ~ if you have any love and decency at all. The Celestials do not want to cause panic and are waiting for Light workers to lead the way, warm up the crowd, and allow others to understand what's been going on. They are doing this through channels and more are coming online every day ~ I depend upon these updates and look forward to them with great relish. Apparently, or so I read somewhere, Avalon does not adhere to channels but that's like missing the forest for the trees. There have been a couple that gave me red flags and when this happens, I discard the info. It's no big deal ~ most of the time, we are given great gems and comfort as they know everything, every thought, and so forth and share what's really happening.

Again, it is necessary to use one's own discernment in these matters. With the arrival of Celestial Beings and they've always been watching over us, they were just limited due to our free will status ~ when they stand before us, comes the greatest advancements known to man including many technologies that have been on earth for some time but withheld and used against all the peoples of Earth by dark forces.

The days of secrecy have ended. I'd like to be there for this occasion and act as a liaison since I already love them so and have worked with them as recently as two years ago.

The Celestial beings offer the ways and means for healing and being prepared to ascend with the earth. It is to our most amazing benefit that they arrive as soon as possible or many will simply not be prepared for ascension and have to leave and go elsewhere on their own. They also will have guidance ~ it isn't a penalty just a different choice. Those who are able to transition from carbon based bodies to crystalline "light" bodies will become "physical angels" that do not need to die but can transition with Earth in ascension.

There are millions of Mother Ships in the skies for those with eyes to see them and they have brought mentors for each and every one of us, so we can be assisted through these great changes that have come upon the Earth. Time is short now; it's all over except for shouts of joy and great relief and it's coming to your neighborhood soon ~ if your heart is open ~ and can welcome this event. And so it is... xoxox

P.S. I apologize for being so lengthy in my posts and hope I haven't lulled you to sleep again ; )

[Fredkc]

Ok, I went to the Feb. 32 article, and read.

From what I read there I would have to say his book (probably the point of the article, and his appearance at the convention) will go down in the annals of mediocre copy/paste information. Truman's statement is not disclosure. Reagan's often quoted statement is nothing but a Hollywood-style attempt at colorful speech.

Claiming there is not govt./military organized effort concerned with either ET, or the technology, does not explain away the folk who follow, and conduct surveillance on at least 3 people I know.
I've got stacks of generals, including Soviet generals, who've come out and said UFOs are real. My point is, how many times do senior officials need to come forward and say this is real?"

A quote from any of those people would have been much more convincing than the Truman, and Reagan quotes repeated endlessly for the last 20 years.

From the rest of the article, it looks to me like this guy's "investigation" didn't get passed the front gate, on most issues.

I guess you'd say I was underwhelmed,
Fred

[Peace of Mind]

Well, I have never seen a UFO or know anyone that has…and I know many. I’m not saying they don’t exist, but I would like to know if the ones people are seeing are actual aliens, or people posing as them. I would like to know if people are being abducted by actual aliens, or by people posturing as aliens just to conduct unlawful tests.

I know they say the universe is vast and we landed on the moon and such, but can we confirm any of these reports? After all, how many of us here has actually traveled outside of this planet? And it doesn't help when the info we get about space is giving to us by the very same people we don’t trust…
So basically what I’m saying…are we being set up?

There’s no doubt in my mind people will change for the better if they knew what was happening. If they don’t know, they will not change; they will do nothing but continue supporting our flawed way of living while still searching for the truth. One of our main problems is believing in the unknown.

When ever facts are presents…the excuses become hard to manifest. No excuses, means a higher productivity rate. Disclosure is very important. The slow leak of info hints to more conditioning...but to what? The truth doesn't need help in being expose or accepted...only lies need to be digested slowly.The truth is a part of you so you'll recognize it whenever it is in your presence. It is very important that one must Know thyself... very important...

Peace

[Lord Sidious]

Well, I have never seen a UFO or know anyone that has…and I know many. I’m not saying they don’t exist, but I would like to know if the ones people are seeing are actual aliens, or people posing as them. I would like to know if people are being abducted by actual aliens, or by people posturing as aliens just to conduct unlawful tests.

I know they say the universe is vast and we landed on the moon and such, but can we confirm any of these reports? After all, how many of us here has actually traveled outside of this planet? And it doesn't help when the info we get about space is giving to us by the very same people we don’t trust…
So basically what I’m saying…are we being set up?

There’s no doubt in my mind people will change for the better if they knew what was happening. If they don’t know, they will not change; they will do nothing but continue supporting our flawed way of living while still searching for the truth. One of our main problems is believing in the unknown.

When ever facts are presents…the excuses become hard to manifest. No excuses, means a higher productivity rate. Disclosure is very important. The slow leak of info hints to more conditioning...but to what? The truth doesn't need help in being expose or accepted...only lies need to be digested slowly.The truth is a part of you so you'll recognize it whenever it is in your presence. It is very important that one must Know thyself... very important...

Peace

I had an experience in 2008.
I was living with a friend and I went into her room to speak to her.
It was mid afternoon.
I was standing speaking to her and out of my peripheral vision, I saw movement.
I looked through the window, 90 degrees to my left and that is when I saw IT.
A HUGE glowing red thing.
It was moving in a south east direction over the area I was in.
No sound at all.
We ran out into the front yard and watched it.
My friend called her son out and he saw it too.
He phoned his friend up and he saw it from two suburbs away.
At first, my friend said it was a plane.
I told her no, there were no port or starboard lights and planes did not put out so much light.
It drifted off over Perth city out of sight.
The next day, I was talking to a friend and he asked me a question that had never occurred to me, could it have been a holograph?
To this day, I don't know what it was, but I know what it wasn't.
I have a gut feeling that it was a test run to see what would happen with public reaction.

[Bill Ryan]

A retired colonel said on AOL that there are aliens, but no coverup! Interesting, huh?
He thinks they have been dropping hints all along.

check out the article!

http://www.aolnews.com/2011/02/23/retired-army-colonel-says-ufos-are-real-but-denies-government-c/?icid=main%7Chtmlws-main-n%7Cdl3%7Csec3_lnk3%7C203128

Hi, All: This is John Alexander. He is not to be believed.

[Arrowwind]

[Someone earlier in this thread talked about an Alien invasion. There is no such thing, there is, however, a divine intervention going on. Many Celestial beings are here to witness and assist in Earth's ascension. They are easy to distinguish from U.S. space vehicles and there are extensive fleets of earthbound ones ~ most U.S. vehicles consist of triangle shapes not round and not massive. Celestial Motherships are living beings and there is a great difference in something living and something made of non-organic materials. Will a false flag attempt be made by our military disguised as aliens?

If they are foolish enough to do something like that and well they may ~ If needed, one can expect our discernment to kick in upon disclosure and landing no matter which one comes first. Celestial Beings come in a wave of unconditional love, it is a very strong, loving, and tangible essence. it's the difference in being exposed to a personage, and we all know someone like this, who is filled with love that is emitted, when compared to say, going through TSA security prior to boarding a flight. There is and will be an unmistakable difference between how we feel and react to whoever comes forward first.

Disclosure must come from within our own hearts.

The light we left with as light beings ~ now has many colors, rays, and facets that pure light did not. We are now fully faceted beings. No longer Homo Sapiens but Homo Christos. No matter how things may appear, our Celestial Heavenly Hosts are our own selves from the future and we can choose to reclaim ourselves or not. We can wait on another Earth-like planet stuck in 3D for that planet to eventually evolve.

As far as man made earthbound forces go, Celestial Beings continue to run circles around various branches of U.S. Space Command units. The whole world has ships out and around Yemen watching the Aden Stargate and all the traffic going to and fro within that porthole. They are drooling at the technology involved but can't touch it ~ just observe. They recently attempted to enter another stargate to time travel but it didn't turn out as well as they had planned. Their dark intent will always bar them from further progress. Until it changes ~ of course.

Earthbound units are like cave men in comparison to these exalted beings. One is Terrestrial and the other Celestial. It is going to require using our heart light to discern but it won't be all that hard ~ if you have any love and decency at all. The Celestials do not want to cause panic and are waiting for Light workers to lead the way, warm up the crowd, and allow others to understand what's been going on. They are doing this through channels and more are coming online every day ~ I depend upon these updates and look forward to them with great relish. Apparently, or so I read somewhere, Avalon does not adhere to channels but that's like missing the forest for the trees. There have been a couple that gave me red flags and when this happens, I discard the info. It's no big deal ~ most of the time, we are given great gems and comfort as they know everything, every thought, and so forth and share what's really happening.

Again, it is necessary to use one's own discernment in these matters. With the arrival of Celestial Beings and they've always been watching over us, they were just limited due to our free will status ~ when they stand before us, comes the greatest advancements known to man including many technologies that have been on earth for some time but withheld and used against all the peoples of Earth by dark forces.

)

Darla Ken,

If I could have hit the thanks button 20 times for your post I would have, but alas the program does not permit.

You and I see from the same perspective... perhaps it is because you have seen the Merkaba ships also,, even if you call them by another name?

My friend who takes people to see ships just wrote me after I sent him a link to the Portland sighting video. He said that that was truely a ship of the high command but the film had been corrupted by putting the trianglar three points of red lights at the end.
He said that by doing this It will teach us to believe that the earthly ships and or ships of lessor levels of consciousness are the same as those of the high command.. it is a false teaching program so that when we see Merkaba we will fear them, for the fear promoting and controling alien false flag events planned do contain ships of such triangular configuration. I am asking him now for permission to post his letter.

It is imperative that humans learn how to discern between the ships. Any information we receive from the government will be corrupted and should not be trusted... black box operations abound around this issue and they do have ships of their own as possibly holographic technology as well..

[Arrowwind]

I've got stacks of generals, including Soviet generals, who've come out and said UFOs are real. My point is, how many times do senior officials need to come forward and say this is real?"



Apparrently, until it is reported on CNN by Wolf Blitzer and on MSNBC by Rachel, as an indisuptable fact, people will refuse to get it.

Unfortuantely when the day comes when they do report it will be filled with misinformation and downright lies. Such is the state of the union amongst the public, and some here too, it seems.

[Chicodoodoo]

If the public relations campaign coming from the military now is to deny that they ever denied the "aliens" are here, that can only mean one thing. Undeniable disclosure is coming soon, and the military doesn't want to look bad after hiding the facts for over 60 years.

It also means the sociopaths are still running things, as they are the ones that lie to cover up that they have been lying when it becomes obvious that they've been lying.

[Tangri]

A retired colonel said on AOL that there are aliens, but no coverup! Interesting, huh?
He thinks they have been dropping hints all along.

check out the article!

http://www.aolnews.com/2011/02/23/retired-army-colonel-says-ufos-are-real-but-denies-government-c/?icid=main%7Chtmlws-main-n%7Cdl3%7Csec3_lnk3%7C203128

Hi, All: This is John Alexander. He is not to be believed.

Hi Bill,
Could you give me some feed back about his untrustworthiness.

[learninglight]

Just found this on youtube posted on there in last few hours

Pdi3A8VHkHc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pdi3A8VHkHc

Much love

[Lord Sidious]

Just found this on youtube posted on there in last few hours


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pdi3A8VHkHc

Much love

That should be fixed.

[Peace of Mind]

Well, I have never seen a UFO or know anyone that has…and I know many. I’m not saying they don’t exist, but I would like to know if the ones people are seeing are actual aliens, or people posing as them. I would like to know if people are being abducted by actual aliens, or by people posturing as aliens just to conduct unlawful tests.

I know they say the universe is vast and we landed on the moon and such, but can we confirm any of these reports? After all, how many of us here has actually traveled outside of this planet? And it doesn't help when the info we get about space is giving to us by the very same people we don’t trust…
So basically what I’m saying…are we being set up?

There’s no doubt in my mind people will change for the better if they knew what was happening. If they don’t know, they will not change; they will do nothing but continue supporting our flawed way of living while still searching for the truth. One of our main problems is believing in the unknown.

When ever facts are presents…the excuses become hard to manifest. No excuses, means a higher productivity rate. Disclosure is very important. The slow leak of info hints to more conditioning...but to what? The truth doesn't need help in being expose or accepted...only lies need to be digested slowly.The truth is a part of you so you'll recognize it whenever it is in your presence. It is very important that one must Know thyself... very important...

Peace

I had an experience in 2008.
I was living with a friend and I went into her room to speak to her.
It was mid afternoon.
I was standing speaking to her and out of my peripheral vision, I saw movement.
I looked through the window, 90 degrees to my left and that is when I saw IT.
A HUGE glowing red thing.
It was moving in a south east direction over the area I was in.
No sound at all.
We ran out into the front yard and watched it.
My friend called her son out and he saw it too.
He phoned his friend up and he saw it from two suburbs away.
At first, my friend said it was a plane.
I told her no, there were no port or starboard lights and planes did not put out so much light.
It drifted off over Perth city out of sight.
The next day, I was talking to a friend and he asked me a question that had never occurred to me, could it have been a holograph?
To this day, I don't know what it was, but I know what it wasn't.
I have a gut feeling that it was a test run to see what would happen with public reaction.

Thanks lord sidieous,

Sounds like a holograph to me too. I think these lights/orbs are part of the upcoming false flag. There is no other reason for them to be floating around doing nothing. IMO, they are most likely shock tests.

Peace

[crosby]

Why is it that people feel a need for this corrupt governement to come clean on disclosure? How is it that you think they ever would? Does it make a difference in what you have experienced, and I assume many here have seen the ships for themselves. Do you think that if they disclose it will change anything and if so what?

What is your personal vision for the effect of disclosure? Do you think that it can be fullfilled via the government?

i think it makes a difference in the plain fact that other people have died trying to get the truth out too us. IF anyone had ever been truthful about any of this, people would not have died for it. that's the only reason it matters.
corson

[Chicodoodoo]

1. Why is it that people feel a need for this corrupt government to come clean on disclosure? 2. How is it that you think they ever would? 3. Does it make a difference in what you have experienced, and I assume many here have seen the ships for themselves. 4. Do you think that if they disclose it will change anything and if so what? 5. What is your personal vision for the effect of disclosure? 6. Do you think that it can be fulfilled via the government?

I thought it might be fun to take a stab at your questions.

1. They want the truth. Can you blame them? Living a big lie gets old.

2. There is always the element of randomness or the unexpected. I don't think they will disclose until it's "too late" (unavoidable), because they are sociopaths, and that's not their way. The general public doesn't realize that, however, so they still believe there are caring people directing government.

3. I've never seen anything alien directly, but I've seen lots of evidence on the Internet, enough to convince me that they're here and the government is lying to me big-time. I don't like being lied to, and I want it to stop across the board.

4. It could change everything. Realizing that our governments are fake and don't pursue the common good is a game-changer.

5. That it is the game-changer mentioned in #4.

6. Not as it exists now. The government is controlled by the sociopaths that are behind all the secrecy and lies. That's what needs to change.

[ponda]

Well, I have never seen a UFO or know anyone that has…and I know many. I’m not saying they don’t exist, but I would like to know if the ones people are seeing are actual aliens, or people posing as them. I would like to know if people are being abducted by actual aliens, or by people posturing as aliens just to conduct unlawful tests.

I know they say the universe is vast and we landed on the moon and such, but can we confirm any of these reports? After all, how many of us here has actually traveled outside of this planet? And it doesn't help when the info we get about space is giving to us by the very same people we don’t trust…
So basically what I’m saying…are we being set up?

There’s no doubt in my mind people will change for the better if they knew what was happening. If they don’t know, they will not change; they will do nothing but continue supporting our flawed way of living while still searching for the truth. One of our main problems is believing in the unknown.

When ever facts are presents…the excuses become hard to manifest. No excuses, means a higher productivity rate. Disclosure is very important. The slow leak of info hints to more conditioning...but to what? The truth doesn't need help in being expose or accepted...only lies need to be digested slowly.The truth is a part of you so you'll recognize it whenever it is in your presence. It is very important that one must Know thyself... very important...

Peace


Hi Peace,

I've seen a few different types of UFO's.

I've seen what looks to be like a satellite slowly passing across the night sky but it changes direction and can stop altogether and then head off slowly in another direction.I've seen this on about six different occasions.Were they spaceships ? I have no idea but they seemed to be under intelligent control.

Another time about 18 months ago i was suddenly compelled to look up into the daytime sky.I saw what looked to be like a very large matt silver blimp.It was smooth with no windows or obvious openings etc.It was moving slowly towards some clouds.It sort of drifted into the clouds and disappeared behind them.It was hard to get a gauge on just how large it was but going by the height of the clouds and comparing it with planes at a similar height i would say that it was at least 500 meters in length and about 100 meters in diameter at its widest point.This is just a rough guess.The vantage point that i observed it from was located in a highly populated area and the UFO was way out in the open but i never heard anything about it being observed by anyone else which surprised me.

The last time i spotted one was about three weeks ago.I was on my usual walk up this mountain road near where i live.When i got to the place where i usually stop and rest for a while i heard a passenger jet flying way above me and i turned and looked up at it.I was looking at it for a few seconds when i noticed a round white dot that was behind the jet but much higher in the sky and further away.It was very small and if you looked away and then back it took a few seconds to locate it because it was so small.I followed it moving slowly across the sky for about 5-10 minutes.The jet flew past but the dot just moved very slowly across the sky.It was very high up.After about 10 minutes i lost sight of it.It could of been a large white balloon or something else,i'm not sure.It didn't speed up but just drifted but it did cover some distance and did appear to drop to a lower height a few times so i'm unsure what it was.

cheers

[str8thinker]

There may well be ETs piloting UFOs, but interestingly John Alexander's statement that the actual Roswell crash was really a spy balloon is supported by John Loftus, see my post here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?14212).


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After reviewing the evidence, particularly Tom Carey's interview when he examines The Viper (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?15750-Viper-Whistle-blower&p=173219&viewfull=1#post173219), I've decided to agree with Bill Ryan that neither John Alexander nor John Loftus are telling the real truth about Roswell, and that it WAS a UFO.

[Arrowwind]

So mostly, some of the thoughts here are that if the government discloses that would satify people because it would be evidence that they are right and force the government into facing their lies. It would also bring to light the cause of death of people who where involved in thwarting the coverup.

Justice for those who have given their lives would be nice, but I think no justice will ever come for them as the people involved get removed quickly, one way or another.

For people to know that this occurs and get to see the confession it might have some benefit for the unillumined but most people understand this is the way of the world already.

As stated, the sociopaths with remain..

I see no overall benefit for governmental disclosure. I think that it would be used as a tool for further lies and manipulation of the people and with the false flage scenario thats what they would be doing.... So that disclosure would in and of itself be a lie.

I think that there are some very good intending beings out there in ships... I also think there are some dangerous ones. We should learn how to tell the difference and work on our very own communication with them and learn also to discern the difference between those visiting our planet.

Why invite goverment lies and control into the situation when we, as free agents can inform one another? as we have been doing... and perhpas eventually bring forth full on contact without governmental intervention, who's interest would be to filter the situation and project their own manipulations into the event...... I have reason to believe that this is already going on for some people

just something to think about

[Caterpillars Lens]

more form MSM: Exclusive: NASA Scientist Claims Evidence of Alien Life on Meteorite (http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/03/05/exclusive-nasa-scientists-claims-evidence-alien-life-meteorite/)

What will be next official news?
:confused:

greetings,
CL

[observer]

How's this for disclosure? I found this on my MSN home page today:


Quote from article: "British UFO files trace sightings (and hoaxes). 8,500 pages of previously classified documents made available on Internet

LONDON — British officials on Thursday released about 8,500 pages of previously classified reports that document sightings of unidentified flying objects by the military and members of the public dating back to the 1950s...." (snip)

Source:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/41887728?GT1=43001

[truthseekerdan]

For those hoping for a government UFO disclosure, better watch this documentary to find out... :nod:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yLKqasPD14

Playlist (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yLKqasPD14&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL) <-- click

[griffon]

I came to the conclusion sometime late last year that there will never be disclosure. Three synchronicities hit me all at once. First was reading Ingo Swans book decrbing the CIA's profound fear of psychics. Second was reading Whitley Streiber was having new found psychic abilities.Third was reading Doc.Greers' interview on Camelot where he said a military man, I believe it was a general saying there will never be disclosure because they found that ET control their ships with their mind, and guess what, so can we. So, if you take those three things as fact then the controllers are more afraid of us knowing how truly powerfull we could be, if we only knew how. That's the biggest secret of all. And if that cats out of the bag then there's no such thing as secrets anymore.

[beyondmyctrl]

the controllers are more afraid of us knowing how truly powerfull we could be, if we only knew how. That's the biggest secret of all.

that totally resonates with me, I really do believe that we are extraordinay beings full of potential, we've just been led to believe that we are not so that we can be controlled. Imagine if we all realized that we could heal ourselves when we are sick, have and be whatever we want, live hundreds of years and travel to the stars whenever we wanted to ? I "decided" 8 years ago that I wasn't going to be sick anymore, that diseases are just just another way for them to controll us, and I haven't been sick, not so much as a cold since.

[griffon]

I'm glad I'm not alone in my theory. I got so tired of just getting pieces of sky when putting together the puzzle I've been given. Obviously the ancients knew this as well. Unfortunately modern man lives in an almost constant state of amnesia.

[Njord]

"Alexander also states that the infamous Roswell, N.M., UFO case of 1947 was not, in fact, a crashed alien spacecraft but a top-secret military project called Mogul."

I can't believe they are still trying to push Mogul as the culprit :bored:
And this only looks to me like another attempt at (not only disinfo) trying to cover their own collective behinds, when the truth is finally understood and accepted by humanity in general.

And I know Bill and many others think there should be a "forgive and forget" when it comes to that. While I can understand it on an intelligent level... I can't agree there shouldn't be any repercussions at all for those responsible for all of this. Specially if all the cases, on for example Dulce and other such amazingly shocking cases, are true.

This could very well be the residual darkness in me, that can't let go of the old world and it's ways.
But I don't think any one of them should get a "get out of jail" card. And they full and well deserve anything coming at them... whatever that will be.