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Jakinabox
25th February 2011, 13:59
A few people have recommended MMS to me recently and while searching for a UK supplier I came across this website. They are selling MMS in a soft tablet form which you just dissolve under your tongue and apparently it tastes nice. Apologies if you are already aware of it.

http://www.mmsonline.info/mmspills.html

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Hope thats fixed now

bashi
25th February 2011, 14:07
A few people have recommended MMS to me recently and while searching for a UK supplier I came across this website. They are selling MMS in a soft tablet form which you just dissolve under your tongue and apparently it tastes nice. Apologies if you are already aware of it.

http://http://www.mmsonline.info/mmspills.html

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Hmm my link isnt working,how do I fix it?


that site does not anymore exist, maybe it dissolved under the tongue of the FDA ;)

silentghost80
25th February 2011, 14:15
http://www.mmsonline.info/mmspills.html

lol it works you entered http:// twice

that wont work ^^ ----------> http://http://www.mmsonline.info/mmspills.html

EDIT*
fastest post in the west ^^

Carrera
25th February 2011, 14:15
The right link: http://www.mmsonline.info/mmspills.html

(jakina you wrote http:// twice! You can use your edit-button to change your post.)

Best Wishes Carrera

Edit: Silent beat me to it...lol

Jakinabox
25th February 2011, 14:22
that site does not anymore exist, maybe it dissolved under the tongue of the FDA ;)

Oh no :(
Well thanks anyway, first ever thread and I mess up lol :o ;)

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Doh! Thanks everyone lol

silentghost80
25th February 2011, 14:23
never mind lol ;)

Agapi
25th February 2011, 15:25
how have they managed to pre-make MMS? The Chlorine Dioxide is the chemical reaction immediately released after mixing the sodium chlorite with the citrus acid...it will lose its strength as time passes, so I would like to know how they have overcome that...any ideas?

would be great if if they have found a way.......

Have emailed them to get some more info, this would be a great way for people that cant mix it up, still cant see how they've done it tho.... thanks for the link x

Eligos
25th February 2011, 15:48
Been using MMS1 for more than a year now and I use the powder form and convert it to the liquid form since it is many times more economical.
This is a scam, I'm sure of it. If Jim endorses the product then that's different.

Jakinabox
25th February 2011, 15:54
:ohwell:.............................

Agapi
25th February 2011, 18:28
I got a reply from her website but she only sent the info that is already on there, although further investigation reveals she's Jim's official representative in England and there are pictures of her with Jim Humble so I guess its not a scam,

like you said jackinabox its probably homeopathic. Have sent an email to Jim's people to ask for more info.

Agapi
26th February 2011, 10:40
I got this reply about the MMS pills ..............' you can watch on youTube, MMS Pills A And Q. The article I sent explains as well as I can. this is similar to homoeopathic. It is Frequency, the frequency. Not sure how to send links so ...I wont :p

witchy1
26th February 2011, 11:02
if it tastes nice - it CANNOT be MMS

DianeKJ
26th February 2011, 18:13
if it tastes nice - it CANNOT be MMS

lol, in my case truer words were never spoken!

Arrowwind
26th February 2011, 18:35
I would be greatly surprized if these homeopathic mms pills work for many people or if any at all.
They would not follow the laws of homeopathic applications which are complex.

and the taste of a homeopathic medicine has no bearing upon what it is made of.
all homeopathic meds taste good, even if made of dog dung or what ever chemical you may have

Jakinabox
26th February 2011, 18:48
Thanks Agapi,
heres the vid but it doesnt explain.


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Agapi
26th February 2011, 21:36
its all about frequency.....she takes the frequency of the mms and puts it into a sugar pill :confused: so how do you do that???

I'm actually interested to know how frequency is removed or contained in something else............anyone got any answers? is that possible?

Arrowwind
26th February 2011, 21:49
This is how a frequency is put into a sugar pill and outlines the developement of homeopathy

http://www.healthsalon.org/80/homeopathy-explained-part-one/

http://www.healthsalon.org/92/homeopathy-explained-part-two/

I would not trust this remedy to work. Call the maker and ask if has been proven, then ask to read the proving. The above will define a proving for you

No homeopathic remedy contains the original substance. It is all energetic. The remedy is diluted past avagadro's numer.. remeber that from science class?

Just because its energetic does not mean that a remedy does not work. But this one I am suspicious of and they need to prove it according to homeopathic standards.

shybastid
26th February 2011, 22:54
Why would Jim endorse that then? That doesn't sound right. Or I'm missing somethin? Not discrediting Homeopathics,but in this case...
Why would it still work? And Jim approves? Sounds off....Just sayin.

Eligos
26th February 2011, 23:53
MMS works on the principle of oxidation. Oxidation involves stealing electrons from a donor rendering the donor broken or inactivated. These so called homeopathic pills therefore are something else altogether.

humanalien
3rd March 2011, 21:11
A few people have recommended MMS to me recently and while searching for a UK supplier I came across this website. They are selling MMS in a soft tablet form which you just dissolve under your tongue and apparently it tastes nice. Apologies if you are already aware of it.

http://www.mmsonline.info/mmspills.html

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[/COLOR]Hmm my link isnt working,how do I fix it?

Hope thats fixed now

I don't know about any of you but i bought some MMS from
some UK supplier and followed the direction exactly on how
to mix the citric acid and the activator together and then i
began taking it as recommended.

By the beginning of the second day of use, i began bleeding
lightly out of my rectum.

Please!! If you are going to use this, start out at it's weakest
dose.

humanalien
3rd March 2011, 21:17
how have they managed to pre-make MMS? The Chlorine Dioxide is the chemical reaction immediately released after mixing the sodium chlorite with the citrus acid...it will lose its strength as time passes, so I would like to know how they have overcome that...any ideas?

would be great if if they have found a way.......

Have emailed them to get some more info, this would be a great way for people that cant mix it up, still cant see how they've done it tho.... thanks for the link x

I heard through the grape vine that MMS is nothing more than Pool Shock.
I won't be using that stuff any more.

seko
3rd March 2011, 23:07
I am part of Jim's team here in Mexico and I get updates when they get something new to tell us about MMS and I never heard of those pills......I wouldn't trust that website.
Here is the link and you can see what MMS Mexico has to sell and information about it.
http://www.mmsmexico.com.mx/eng/index.html

cheers,
seko

Jakinabox
4th March 2011, 14:27
I am part of Jim's team here in Mexico and I get updates when they get something new to tell us about MMS and I never heard of those pills......I wouldn't trust that website.

Thank you Seko

conk
9th March 2011, 18:46
I heard through the grape vine that MMS is nothing more than Pool Shock.
I won't be using that stuff any more. Not entirely true. Anyway, what if it is? People have had success using the cheap pool shock, so....a chemical is what it is, regardless of how you label it.

nearing
9th March 2011, 19:52
I don't know about any of you but i bought some MMS from
some UK supplier and followed the direction exactly on how
to mix the citric acid and the activator together and then i
began taking it as recommended.

By the beginning of the second day of use, i began bleeding
lightly out of my rectum.

Please!! If you are going to use this, start out at it's weakest
dose.

humanalien, please do not automatically blame the coincidence of you starting the MMS with your bleeding. Please, please, please go and have your rectal bleeding (no matter how small it was) evaluated by a medical professional.

It may have only been a hemorrhoid, but bleeding from your rectum is not normal - ever.

shiva777
9th March 2011, 20:04
I bought MMS a few years ago..I have never used it because I haven't been even a little sick for decades now..and I won't share it with friends until I have used it myself.I have some friends who had very adverse reactions from using it years ago and they wouldn't touch it again anyway..there are very mixed reports around MMS use...for and against...so I would suggest starting on VERY low doses if you feel GUIDED to use it.There are many MMS devotees out there but I have yet to see documented long term studies on it's effects(and side-effects) so I continue to have mixed feelings about it...energy/spiritual healing is much more my cup of tea(or MMS)..some food for thought...Rick

"The truth is that MMS is a dangerous poison, and as such it

has no business whatsoever in the alternative health arena."

Dr. Gabriela Segura

Magical or not it’s sometimes called Miracle Mineral Supplement or the master mineral supplement. No matter what it’s called one does have to be careful when using a substance like MMS. And whether its main proponent Jim Humble is going out of his mind or not we have to be clear about what this substance can do safely and what it cannot. I say out of his mind for now he has invented, out of the pocket of his imagination, the new profession titled “Doctor of MMS”, which anyone can become. “Americans can afford the training of less than two weeks, or buy the new book, “The Master Mineral of the Third Millennium”. In an email he recently said, “We thought you might like to see the difference in a MMS doctor and a Medical doctor.”

As Jim has become increasingly embarrassing to the health field I have personally eaten some of my words on the value of this chlorine-type of substance as I have been carefully experimenting with it on myself. In fact, if the truth be known, I am finding out there may be some possible benefits to it but would never take this supplement orally for anything since there are so many better and safer ways to accomplish what Humble claims MMS can do.

I am using it transdermally, mixed with malic acid and DMSO to try to control a fungus infection between my toes. In the end I might conclude I am a bit out of my mind myself for sometimes just the fumes irritates my eyes and I do think I would vomit if I drank some, which would be a typical reaction to drinking a poison. Just thinking about drinking it makes me nauseous. No matter how much can be said for its anti-pathogen action, so far it only controls my fungus but does not eradicate it even though I have been using it for several months.

Many people do not know that MMS is essentially

bleach. It’s very effective for killing bacteria in

toilets, but you certainly shouldn’t be swallowing it.

Dr. Gabriela Segura



Almost five years ago I wrote in my Survival Medicine for the 21st Century compendium that: There has been a lot of commotion in health circles about a product called Miracle Mineral Supplement (MMS). It is being advertised as the answer to AIDS, hepatitis A, B and C, malaria, herpes, TB, most cancer and many more of mankind’s worst diseases. The claim about how the chlorine (a poison that would not be considered a mineral for health) interacts with pathogens is the same claim we can make about iodine (a safe nutritional mineral), which is known to also kill pathogens of all types on contact. Iodine is not normally thought to have this action when taken internally but in high enough doses it does. I personally know of a missionary in Africa who uses iodine instead of MMS to treat malaria.

Most people I have given MMS to usually react

very aggressively and have to stop taking it.

Dr. George Georgiou

Chlorine dioxide is formed from the chemical combination of sodium chlorite and acetic acid (vinegar) or citric acid. Chlorine dioxide is dangerous to handle and use. After searching for and reviewing material safety data sheets I am convinced of the risk of using this substance. Now whenever someone mentions MMS I recommend iodine instead.

Patricia Springstead, RN says, “The historical fact of MMS is that when activated it becomes what is equal to pool shock, to shocking bacteria, fungus and other pathogens from swimming water. In its dry state, MMS is sodium chlorite. When activated with citrus or vinegar, it becomes sodium dioxide.” According to Springstead, MMS side effects include:

•Nausea
•Vomiting
•Uncontrolled diarhea
•Disorientation
•Headaches
•Chemical poisoning,
•Fatigue
•Electrolyte imbalances
•Possible death


Chlorine gas used by Germans (Photo: Otto Dix, A German Gas Attack (1924)

Chlorine dioxide: May decompose explosively on shock, friction or concussion, or on heating rapidly. Strong oxidant: reacts violently with combustible and reducing materials and with mercury, ammonia, sulfur and many organic compounds. A strong irritant of the skin, eyes, and respiratory tract, and a strong oxidizer that promotes combustion; concentrated solutions may be corrosive to the skin and eyes; harmful if swallowed and can cause irritation to mouth, esophagus, stomach, and mucous membranes. Eye contact: contact causes redness, irritation, pain, blurred vision, tearing, corneal injury and burns. Inhalation: harmful if inhaled; coughing, headaches, labored breathing, nausea, shortness of breath may occur resulting in chronic bronchitis and permanent lung damage with chronic exposure.

In July 2010, the FDA issued a warning[1] about Miracle Mineral Supplement (MMS): “Consumers who have MMS should stop using it immediately and throw it away.” MMS was then rebranded with the new name, “Advanced Oxygen Therapy.” Since then, the product’s salesmen have continued pushing their concoction onto some of the world’s most desperate and hopeless populations. Sylvia Fink, a Mexican woman visiting Epi Island with her husband in a Least Developed Country, Vanuatu, a South Pacific Island nation, died 12 hours after ingesting MMS.

“From almost the moment Silvie drank the mixture of MMS and lime juice—which she’d brewed up according to the instructions of Jim Humble, the principal proponent of the stuff—things went wrong. She became nauseated, and was soon both vomiting and suffering from diarrhea. But since the MMS literature emphasized that this was a normal reaction, she assumed it would pass. It didn’t. It turned into a day of torture, with Silvie gradually getting worse, to the point of having severe abdominal pains, then urinary pains. I helped her all day, bathing her, comforting her and trying to get liquids into her. But she couldn’t keep anything down. About the time it started to get dark, she began to feel faint. That’s when I became fully alarmed. She fell into a coma while I was on the VHF calling for assistance. With her unresponsive, I put out another radio call, this time for immediate emergency care. Fellow cruisers rushed to our boat within minutes. For over an hour we administered CPR and oxygen. But neither they nor an adrenalin shot administered by a physician from the village were able to revive her. Sylvie died aboard Windcastle around 9 p.m., just 12 hours after she’d taken that fatal drink of MMS.”

Methemoglobin found in the blood was at a “significantly high” level according to Ms. Fink’s autopsy report. “Methemoglobin basically results in the inability of blood to carry oxygen within the body causing cyanosis (lack of oxygen to the system). The [autopsy] report states that if the 45 percent saturation reading was accurate and existed at the time of death, then the symptoms could be consistent with being caused by methemoglobinemia and therefore a possible cause of death. Most cases of methemoglobinemia are caused by exposure to drugs or toxic substances[2] including chlorate and chlorite.”

Dr. Segura, who is a heart surgeon with extensive experience and interest in alternative health, research, psychology and the human condition, would agree with this diagnosis, stated,“The popularity of MMS and its fervent, almost religious marketing involved the claim of curing malaria in tens if not hundreds of thousands of people. Sounds very noble indeed, but this is only natural as MMS’ sodium chlorite is well known to cause hemolysis in red blood cells—meaning that red blood cells are ruptured and destroyed. It is actually by killing red blood cells that the malaria parasite is killed since it invades red blood cells. MMS probably kills the parasite and the red blood cells. In fact, MMS consumers may develop anemia.”

Jim Humble has explained to a reporter friend of mine, Debra Dupré, that MMS is the only answer for people in the Gulf of Mexico region to survive the oil spill disaster and that the possibility exists for people with MMS to visit every home there, with help of his “church Ministers.” In an email on January 16, Humble wrote, “MMS is the only real answer all those people of the gulf have. It is cheap and it will detoxify their bodies. It is the greatest detoxifier for human bodies known at this time as I have observed thousands who have used it.” Ever since first reading Humble’s book I have gotten used to his use of thousands upon thousands of testimonials that spill with ease out of his mouth and unfortunately people do swallow his word hook, line and sinker.

“The active ingredient in MMS is not a mineral, but chlorine dioxide (oxygenated chlorine), which is formed from the chemical combination of sodium chlorite and acetic acid (vinegar) or citric acid. MMS as a poison does kill intrusive germs in your body, but it would be naïve to believe it to be carefully selective in what it kills and destroys, or to think that the damage done has only limited consequences. It is shocking that MMS is recommended so widely, that it is recommended to already weakened individuals AND that it is recommended for long-term use. In truth, the potential long-term and dangerous side effects of regular MMS use should give anyone the shivers,” writes Dr. Gabriela Segura.

My assistant Claudia French has been following the exploits of Jim Humble for years and has said that he changes his protocol like a slippery fish. Dr. Segura, speaking about his original protocol for what is now known as MMS1, said that his original protocol “suggests that taking up to 60 drops per day is within reason. There are 20 drops in one gram, which means that the protocol may call for the ingestion of 3 grams or more of what amounts to household bleach. This is three times the amount required to produce nausea and vomiting and 20 percent of the amount required to kill you. Even though we are told that nausea and diarrhea are positive signs of detoxification when following the MMS protocol, you can be sure that that’s actually the way our body tells us we’ve just been poisoned. If you happen to vomit, then be reassured that it might have saved your life by way of avoiding a lethal overdose of MMS.”



Dr. Segura says, “MMS2 is basically calcium hypochlorite, which is a chemical compound widely used for water treatment and as a bleaching and disinfecting agent (bleaching powder). This one is indeed a mineral because it has calcium in it, but a mineral that reacts to produce hypochlorous acid when ingested. Hypochlorous acid (HOCl), which is a combination of hydrogen, oxygen, and chlorine, is what some of our white blood cells produce in order to kill bacteria through the well-known process called oxidation.” The human body produces it to fight infection. White blood cells release this natural oxidant to fight invading pathogens. The hypochlorous acid produced by the human body’s immune system is done so in minute quantities because the acid holds danger for normal cells as well as the pathogens.

The researchers said the human immune system produces hypochlorous acid in response to infection but the substance does not kill only the bacterial invaders. It kills human cells too, which may explain how tissue is destroyed in chronic inflammation. Knox et al. first noted that HClO is a sulfhydryl inhibitor that, in sufficient quantity, could completely inactivate proteins containing sulfhydryl groups. This is because HClO oxidizes sulfhydryl groups, leading to the formation of disulfide bonds that can result in crosslinking of proteins. The HClO mechanism of sulfhydryl oxidation is similar to that of chloramine, and may only be bacteriostatic, because, once the residual chlorine is dissipated, some sulfhydryl function can be restored. Hypochlorous acid reacts readily with amino acids that have amino group side-chains, with the chlorine from HClO displacing a hydrogen, resulting in an organic chloramine.

Dr. Segura says, “The amount of HOCl that our body is already capable of producing on its own is dangerous enough. In fact, some of our white blood cells have toxic and damaging effects on our DNA through the formation of hypochlorous acid. In fact, hypochlorous acid (MMS2) has the power to chlorinate the building blocks of DNA, breaking the DNA double helix apart and thus interfering with its vital biological functions.”

Jim Humble claims that, “The answer to AIDS, hepatitis A, B and C, malaria, herpes, TB, most cancer and many more of mankind’s worst diseases has been found. Many diseases are now easily controlled. More than 75,000 disease victims have been included in the field tests in Africa. Scientific clinical trials have been conducted in a prison in the country of Malawi, East Africa. Separate tests conducted by the Malawi government produced identical 99% cure results. Over 60% of the AIDS victims that were treated in Uganda were well in 3 days, with 98% well within one month. More than 90% of the malaria victims were well in 4 to 8 hours. Dozens of other diseases were successfully treated and can be controlled with this new mineral supplement. It also works with colds, flu, pneumonia, sore throats, warts, mouth sores, and even abscessed teeth.”

Dr. David Kroll, a natural products cancer pharmacology professor, says, “The product website is full of the most unreal claims I’ve seen in any online marketing scheme.” And this is the main point to look at when reading Humble’s book or site. He says anything and everything to convince us that this is the greatest stuff that has ever touched down in the world of medicine and health but he substantiates nothing. The FDA (not my favorite organization) says, “The FDA is not aware of any research that MMS is effective in treating any of these conditions.” There is not a person alive who is aware of any documented research yet there is a religious fever based on word of mouth and hearsay.

In a video, Mr. Humble relates the story of a man who “chug-a-lugged” two ounces of MMS because he had mistaken it for a glass of water. Mr. Humble says that the man became very ill. His kidneys stopped working and he had to go on dialysis. He was hospitalized for several weeks. Mr. Humble says that people should know that if they get extremely sick after taking MMS, “they need to go to the hospital because the kidneys will quit working.”

Taking vitamin C, an antioxidant, is also discouraged as it neutralizes the effects of this strong oxidant MMS. Jonathan Campbell tells us that because CLO2 is a chemical oxidizer (called a “free radical”) it depletes vitamin C and causes oxidative stress. Putting it another way, the vitamin C and other antioxidants in our body get depleted in their attempts to detoxify CLO2; vitamin C and other antioxidants are our “free radical scavengers.” The instructions provided with MMS specifically warn people not to take vitamin C while they are taking MMS because vitamin C “interferes” with it. This is a red flag that MMS is a toxic chemical, since vitamin C is our primary detoxification agent. Vitamin C depletion is extremely dangerous: it is the bulwark of our immune system, and it is needed for dozens of other body functions.

According to Jonathan Campbell, health consultant: “The entire approach of Jim Humble is to treat the human body as if it were a simple plumbing system, and MMS is akin to Drano, chemically killing pathogens. But the human body does not work that way. Your body does not need toxic chemicals from a factory to kill pathogens. When fortified properly, your body has the capability to fight literally any pathogen or illness. A healthy immune system automatically and selectively targets pathogens with an array of antibodies and white blood cells. MMS disrupts this natural immunity by depleting immune-building antioxidants.

MMS is the wrong approach to

immunity—it is chemotherapy!

Jonathan Campbell

MMS is dangerous, even Humble admits that. I am not saying in this essay that MMS cannot be used for certain situations when used transdermally. I even know a doctor in South Africa who safely uses it in her IV cocktail but it is implemented under strict supervision and monitoring like most dangerous drugs needs to be. Doctors often try extreme methods when a patient’s life is on the line, when there is little or nothing to lose.

“Bishop” Humble is really doing a huge disservice to the alternative medical field. He is making all of it seem more unbelievable not to mention the disservice he is doing to religious orders. There is the ancient tradition of pastoral medicine but it has nothing to do with “Jonestown” and the drinking of poisons. I never thought I would be on the same side of the fence as the FDA but on the question of MMS I certainly am.

Testimonial One
What follows is a testimonial of the reactions Graham from Spain had when he began taking the MMS – he has basal cell carcinoma on different areas of his face and back. I began this protocol – following the mixing instructions carefully – after having been on the high mineral protocol for several days. The mixture felt highly toxic and reminded me of cellulose – acetona. At the 1 drop X 5 all was well with no side effects. Increasing over 3 days to 3 X 15 drops similarly resulted in no problems apart from a reduced appetite. When I increased to 4 x 20, all hell let loose within about an hour! I suffered severe diarrhoea and purging for the entire day, with stomach ache, headache, nausea, sinus pain and nose running along with disorientation and sight disturbances. I had to lay down near the bathroom the entire day. By evening, all these symptoms had settled and I was able to eat a little and sleep. The following day after breakfast I took the same dosage, expecting a lesser effect, but it was an exact repeat for the entire day. I even tried one more day at this 4 x 20, believing that I would get over this hump and reap the benefits, but it was no different. (Masochist or what!) I subsequently discontinued the MMS protocol and continue with the high mineral intake. One further interesting effect is that I am left with a revulsion to certain foods that I used to crave! I am not convinced this was a healing crisis caused by the detox effect and die off. It seemed more to me like a reaction to a toxic substance. I used to be very sensitive to the smell of paint and thinners as well as certain dust – like cement dust etc. – which in the past has caused a similar effect. The effects the MMS created were more like that than of a detox taking place. Such smells have not bothered me since I began taking HMD around 5 years ago. This was also the first headache I have had in that time, having previously suffered overlapping headaches and migraines for over 40 years.

Testimonial Two
My doctor put me on a special mineral increase due to lack of iron, copper and magnesium in my blood tests. I followed “the book” and did not tell him I use MMS. Now I have to do a stint in the hospital because my counts are worse than ever when they were supposed to improve. My doctor took a urine test (which has been orangeish) and he said the tests show that something is absorbing or disrupting the minerals and not letting them get into my blood where they are needed. Six hours between MMS and the mineral pills and cap. Could MMS be causing this? I am worried that because I did not tell my doctor as the book says, and others here give that same advice, that the hospital will be looking for reasons and doing tests on me unnecessarily. I feel I should take my MMS with me to the hospital and tell them but Jim (Humble) say’s don’t tell doctors because they don’t understand. So I’m confused. My readings only went down since taking MMS and I do as they say here 15 drops 3 times a day with citric acid 75 drops in lemon juice for taste. I have lost 8 kilos since starting and constantly suffer D (diarrhea) and nausea. But my doctor says I will not like how and what they will have to suppository as what I take orally is having no effect and they need to find out why. They think I have a gastrointestinal disease that leads to significant mal-absorption and will need to see a biophysicist. Any advice will help as I go to hospital at Queenstown on the south island Tuesday. My MMS comes from MMS pacific. The teaspoon I use to mix it with is rusted after 12 weeks—is this normal also?

Testimony Three
The MMS lowered my viral load, but it seriously messed up my lab results. My RBC, BUN, EGFR, CO2, Protein (globulin), bilirubin, ALT, AST, platelets, lymphs and cholesterol all went out of range on MMS, in about 6 weeks of taking it. I came to some conclusions about MMS because of my labs and tried to discuss it with Jim Humble; he was not so humble, he got angry with me and told me my results were invalid because I got sick several times. I think the explosions kill red blood cells as they are in close contact with the MMS. It lowered my platelets, cholesterol, protein, RBC, BUN and EGFR and raised the rest.

witchy1
9th March 2011, 22:21
Thanks Shiva, I do believe there are so many wrong things in the above that it would take many pages to counter argue the case. I would say that the lady who alledgedy died after having MMS has been categorically proven false. (in the Jim Humble thread) There has never been any deaths associated with it (unlike other pharma's.) It will cause nausea and vomiting, if you dont listen to your body. Keep yourself under that line. Why dont people understand that and keep complaining. That being said the new protocol seems to lessen these effects. I cannot get over 8 drops and Im happy with that.

I personally do not think it wise to take all the time, but only in circumstanses where you feel bugs are getting on top of you or you system cant handle an overpopulation of them. You should be taking multi vits with it as well.

I do agree with one thing re the sensitivities: I certainly can now smell chemicals at a distance - like in our tap water since taking MMS.

I think the product has done more good than harm and I thank Jim and his courage for bringing it to humanity.

ADDIT: It is an approved food preservative and is in the food chain. Commonly used by meat producers.

Also Wikipedia have a team who continue within 10 mins of putting up correct information put up negative and fale comments. I will put this on the Jim Humble thread if anyone is interested - it came in an email this morning.
W

Arrowwind
12th March 2011, 20:31
I heard through the grape vine that MMS is nothing more than Pool Shock.
I won't be using that stuff any more. Not entirely true. Anyway, what if it is? People have had success using the cheap pool shock, so....a chemical is what it is, regardless of how you label it.

There is MMS1 and MMS2. MMS2 is pool shock, most literally. It does amazing things for clearing out pathogens without the bad side effects that antibiotics have.

Arrowwind
12th March 2011, 20:41
If people really knew, really understood what antibiotics were they would be greatly reluctant to put those in their mouths.

ktlight
22nd March 2011, 08:57
if it tastes nice - it CANNOT be MMS

Hi Witchy1
Jim Humble said (I think in the most recent vid) that adding 2 tspns of citric acid into the mix once it has been mixed makes intake tolerable.
Hope this helps.

Snowbird
22nd March 2011, 15:28
I got a reply from her website but she only sent the info that is already on there, although further investigation reveals she's Jim's official representative in England and there are pictures of her with Jim Humble so I guess its not a scam,

like you said jackinabox its probably homeopathic. Have sent an email to Jim's people to ask for more info.

Thanks Agapi! I'll be interested to read about a reply.

Eligos
22nd March 2011, 15:54
Even easier is just to plug your nose as you drink it. Keep it plugged for at least 15 seconds after you swallowed.
This way you will get no taste at all. Don't know why people don't do it that way.

Hervé
22nd March 2011, 17:00
its all about frequency.....she takes the frequency of the mms and puts it into a sugar pill :confused: so how do you do that???

I'm actually interested to know how frequency is removed or contained in something else............anyone got any answers? is that possible?

Hello Agapi!

Have a look at this video, it might give you an idea on how that's possible:

http://vimeo.com/14646626

It's called "Water."

kevlor
28th March 2011, 11:21
wow SHIVA777, you certainly have it in for MMS, i am totally surprised you even consider useing it on you toes.

as WITCHY1 says, i could spend a lot of time correcting your article. but i wont get into a bunfight - viva la difference.

and yes, i have been useing MMS1 daily for four years now. i have many beneficial results from the product that i could report. no i havent sprouted horns, or turned into a firebreathing dragon.
sigh, guess i am destined to die of old age, (like jim humble, totally content and pleased with how he has helped humanity), and not one of those FDA recommended poisons that ARROWWIND talks about

NONE IS SO BLIND .........

Vielle
31st March 2011, 00:33
Hello everyone,

I am new here and this is my first post to this forum. I was just wondering has anyone yet conducted any scientific studies (animal or human - although I doubt that this compound would ever get ethical approval for human studies) on MMS? The assessment of this supplement based on some case studies that are, unfortunately, often vaguely recorded doesn't give the full picture of its nature when used as a treatment against pathological states - this leaves too much room for speculation, I believe. If not yet, in the future there is a significant need for quantification of its effects on e.g. rodents or mice with different pathological issues (and non-pathological healthy control groups).

If anyone of you fellow members do know a scientist/group studying MMS' effects on any mammals, I would love to know about it. Also don't get me wrong, that I wouldn't appreciate quality assessment through individual cases but due to conflicting experiences from different individuals, I personally need more to grasp on. The oxidative nature of chlorine dioxide rises also some doubts in my mind, especially when compared to the current scientific findings in genomics. But I keep my mind open to this still.

Rozzy
31st March 2011, 02:03
Hello everyone,

I am new here and this is my first post to this forum. I was just wondering has anyone yet conducted any scientific studies (animal or human - although I doubt that this compound would ever get ethical approval for human studies) on MMS? The assessment of this supplement based on some case studies that are, unfortunately, often vaguely recorded doesn't give the full picture of its nature when used as a treatment against pathological states - this leaves too much room for speculation, I believe. If not yet, in the future there is a significant need for quantification of its effects on e.g. rodents or mice with different pathological issues (and non-pathological healthy control groups).

If anyone of you fellow members do know a scientist/group studying MMS' effects on any mammals, I would love to know about it. Also don't get me wrong, that I wouldn't appreciate quality assessment through individual cases but due to conflicting experiences from different individuals, I personally need more to grasp on. The oxidative nature of chlorine dioxide rises also some doubts in my mind, especially when compared to the current scientific findings in genomics. But I keep my mind open to this still.

When you find a medical lab that wants to run some tests let us all know, that is about like going to GM and asking them to test out the new car you just built.

nearing
31st March 2011, 02:47
Only gonna happen if they can patent it and OWN that patent.
:nono:

Agapi
31st March 2011, 13:08
Thanx for the film link Amzer zo, brilliant!

I myself use MMS regulary, for myself and I also mix up 10 drops activate and leave it in the room if a cold feels like starting. Works every time;)

I've know someone who increased his drops every hour on the first day, did a bit too much for one day, but not only cleared out his insides quite rapidly,(not recommended) also sent his arthritis packing as well! its been over a year since then and still not a twinge...I've had alot of positive results, and a few herxhiemer reactions, (extreme detox) which can be avoided by taking little and often.

If people read Jim Humble's writings they will understand what it is and does........... and Vielle the day someone does proper studies on MMS we shall all be celebrating the shift into the new age :dance3:

Vielle
31st March 2011, 13:35
To be honest, I didn't presume that any company (e.g. GlaxonSmithKline etc.) would have tested and published those results. As you probably know, most of the scientific journal articles are published by scientists working for universities.

I found one of the only studies regarding chlorine dioxide oral ingestion (sample size = 60). Nothing conclusive cannot be interpreted from the results that were presented in quite a narrow way. I may recommend you to read this if you are interested generally about the short-term effects of ingestion of oxidizing agents on humans.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1569027/pdf/envhper00463-0059.pdf

(Published in the journal of Environmental Health Perspectives in 1982)

TigaHawk
31st March 2011, 18:37
In regards to why MMS will never have a "it can do this! and this!!" label - and will allways have a "Use if you think it'll work and we take no responsibility if it doesnt...."

Is because the medical journal wont acknowledge that it's the MMS that is doign anything.

They dont like things that cure problems. They only want to stick a bandaid over it. One which you have to see them on a constant basis to replace.



I personaly feel - there is ALOT more stuff happening with our minds when it comes to medacine than we care to acknowledge.


IE - A person BELIEVES they're taking a pill which will cure them of somethign. And they will be cured. Even if the pill was a placebo. As long as that person keeps it in their head that it worked - and they're cured - they will be.


When you go to a registerd Doctor - and get a medacine. Youre told all the sideeffects, and that it may not work in some cases. You believe it may not work - then there's a high chance - it wont.