Stephen Hawking says "Don't talk to Aliens"

[norman]

Here's a link to an article in today's Sunday Times. Stephen Hawking has made a documentary.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/science/space/article7107207.ece

Among other things, he says there must be ETs out there and that humanity should do everything to AVOID them!:confused:

[samvado]

Among other things, he says there must be ETs out there and that humanity should do everything to AVOID them!:confused:

thats a bit late, dont you think?

[stardustaquarion]

Here's a link to an article in today's Sunday Times. Stephen Hawking has made a documentary.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/science/space/article7107207.ece

Among other things, he says there must be ETs out there and that humanity should do everything to AVOID them!:confused:

Hi Norman

I like Hawking and respect him because he had the courage to correct himself. Very few scientists will do that! As for aliens he has a very valid point! If extraterrestrials are anything like humans, think about it....what humans did to the indigenous peoples all over the world? Need I say more

Humanity is not all bad so it is very likely that aliens are not all bad my question will be. If you were living on a planet where harmony and self resposibility reings, will you bother to come to a planet like Earth just to help? why? I would not unless it served a greater purpose.... On those basis is easy to see that if they are like many humans we better run and if they are better than humans, what do they want?....I don't think there is such a thing as a 100 pct free lunch!

Love

[Swanny]

The nasty ones might come here rape us and steal all our stuff :eek:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8642558.stm



"The real challenge is to work out what aliens might actually be like."

The programme envisages numerous alien species including two-legged herbivores and yellow, lizard-like predators.
Blimey haven't they watched V yet??


And

Professor Cox added: "Closer to home, the evidence that life could exist on Mars is growing. :yuck:


More here
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/science/space/article7107207.ece
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/space/7631252/Stephen-Hawking-alien-life-is-out-there-scientist-warns.html



The scientist, who is paralysed by motor neurone disease, warned that contact with alien life could spell disaster for the human race.

Run for the hills

[Swami]

The nasty ones might come here rape us and steal all our stuff :eek:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8642558.stm





Blimey haven't they watched V yet??


And
:yuck:


More here
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/science/space/article7107207.ece
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/space/7631252/Stephen-Hawking-alien-life-is-out-there-scientist-warns.html



The scientist, who is paralysed by motor neurone disease, warned that contact with alien life could spell disaster for the human race.

Run for the hills

I'm already in contact with ET Admiral.......
Wanna talk....?

Its all gotta do with intuitive Hardcore Vibes, its not to be found in rational cr@pola


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mkaN6LnUts


So, now they gonna eat me....??

[blue777]

interesting......so you are in contact through intuitive thoiughts,...or silent sense of thought...is that right
lol
blue

[Swami]

interesting......so you are in contact through intuitive thoiughts,...or silent sense of thought...is that right
lol
blue

Well SIR, that would be the silence sense of thought.......

[Operator]

If there really is a conscious- and/or information field you are constantly in contact without knowing it ... lack of knowledge how to access it is probably the only thing from withholding most of us to make 'the connection'.

[blue777]

If there really is a conscious- and/or information field you are constantly in contact without knowing it ... lack of knowledge how to access it is probably the only thing from withholding most of us to make 'the connection'.

i TOTALLY AGREE WITH THAT......what we have to do first is to conquer our EGO , AND PRIDE
LOL

[Swami]

If there really is a conscious- and/or information field you are constantly in contact without knowing it ... lack of knowledge how to access it is probably the only thing from withholding most of us to make 'the connection'.

In the Vedic-records this is called the AKASHA

[stardustaquarion]

The nasty ones might come here rape us and steal all our stuff

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8642558.stm
Blimey haven't they watched V yet??


And



More here
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/science/space/article7107207.ece
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/space/7631252/Stephen-Hawking-alien-life-is-out-there-scientist-warns.html



The scientist, who is paralysed by motor neurone disease, warned that contact with alien life could spell disaster for the human race.

Run for the hills

Hey Swammy! I am suffering from de ja vu (all over again ha ha ha) I think I replied to this subject this morning but it must be a duplicate. I read the article and since Hawkings is in "the know" and we know there are loads of GLFlies maybe it is not a bad thing that someone with his standing communicates to the man in the street.

I have always thought that aliens are like humans, all sorts. If they come here what is their intent? Why anyone evolved will come to this planet when we nuke each other? etc

Don't see myself chasing this one though

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51f4fOGuclL.jpg

But worse case escenario I am ready to abduct them

http://www.robotsnob.com/pictures/alienlamp.jpg:haha::haha::haha:

[Agape]

I still remember Steven Hawking's release from about two years ago and it said something like..''intelligent life beyond this planet is improbable as people who see or speak about aliens are crackpots'' .

This shows some progress :horn:

To me he looks just like another human ET, with all the technical aids supporting his communication impairments but someone who is under such close human watch 24/7 that I doubt ETs can get through to him...number one and two..even if they did and Mr Hawking would admit that his physical theories were inspired by other than earthly resources,
the Academy would take no longer mercy on his enlightening efforts.

Not sure I should smile , cry or better not talk to aliens .

A

[Snowbird]

I still remember Steven Hawking's release from about two years ago and it said something like..''intelligent life beyond this planet is improbable as people who see or speak about aliens are crackpots'' .

This shows some progress :horn:


A

I'm not at all sure what progress Hawkings demonstrates.

It is possible that he is layering great caution on top of the publics' excitement concerning ETs, which BTW, I understand that beings from off planet Earth, do not like or appreciate being referred to as ETs or aliens. Calling them aliens would be equivalent to calling Native Americans foreigners.

I think that Hawkings as well as many others, are simply trying to keep the global public from trusting anything-in-a-saucer. The more we learn about their agendas, the more we need to learn. :hug:

[Swami]

I like Hawkins more this way..........

Carl Sagan - 'A Glorious Dawn' ft Stephen Hawking


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSgiXGELjbc

[Swanny]

Weird but I like it :)

[Steven]

I agree with Mr. Hawking. He made some very important statements. Indeed, if we make contact, we wouldn't be in the explorer role. It might looks like the europeen-american contact. Well, it probably already have happened this way in our past history. It also corroborates with many first hand contacts message like Collier and Summers. That is where their testimony becomes important in our knowledge base.

Namaste, Steven

[bashi]

http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/2046/eteatfattiesfirst.jpg (http://img94.imageshack.us/i/eteatfattiesfirst.jpg/)



Weird, but I like it :)

No more popcorn !

.

[lightblue]

they'd choke on me...next to skinny...

this poster is a joke, has to be...is it not? :no: :yes4:

[bashi]

they'd choke on me...next to skinny...

this poster is a joke, has to be...is it not? :no: :yes4:

Let me joke a bite ...

[Templeton Peck]

Stephen "state the obvious" Hawking should stick to his numbers and sums and cover what he is expert at. If he was all that smart he would know its pritty much way to late.

Stephen Hawking doesn't know what the hell he's talking about (always wanted to say that)

[Thodin303]

I like Hawkins more this way..........

Carl Sagan - 'A Glorious Dawn' ft Stephen Hawking

Nice video. I love autotune.

[Humble Janitor]

Hawking disappoints me. Of all of the people out there, why does he have to go this route?

Probably in bed with the Illuminati.

[Teakai]

No more popcorn !

.

Shoot! I just ate a bag of it.

(Have you noticed that the microwave popcorn bags are getting emptier?)

[Robstar]

For a supposed highly intelligent man Hawking sounds like a the village idiot.
This statement comes from a man that said anyone who believed in E.T intelligence was a "crackpot".
So why now the 360 change in belief?
He is comparing the attitude and intentions of beings that can cross the universe and maybe even dimensions to that of a Renaissance human-man(Christophorus Columbus) of 1492.
This is like comparing your communication and math skills with that of Cro-Magnon Man.
Unless, he has been told to say this or shown info by someone?
His comments are very bizarre and very human fear-natured.
Why would their intentions and understanding not evolve, along with their technology.
I think this may be part of some psych-ops for a black flag event.
If they are not friendly then we will find out but until then it is just speculation.
Bizarre!
:confused:

[Thodin303]

Why would their intentions and understanding not evolve, along with their technology.


If their technology evolved faster than their spirituality, then yes, they could be some bad dudes. I would have to guess Hawking is just playing the part he's told to play. With his announcement and the history channel having a show about ancient alien civilizations, I would say the disclosure project is going into high gear. I just hope the "white hats" are the ones driving...:popcorn:

[Vidya Moksha]

i simply cannot equate (groan) mathematical skills with intelligence. i think there is an inverse relationship between the two. I count theoretical physicists in that lot, to a person, simply, not of the real world...(ok so a generlization.. i like nassim lol)

[K626]

Coming from the leader of the Daleks I'm finding this hard to swallow. :p:behindsofa:

[steve_a]

Hi Everybody,

Talking about Steven Hawking I remembered a bit by Jimmy Carr who sent a letter to him. He explains it better: http://noolmusic.com/myspace_videos/jimmy_carr_writes_to_stephen_hawking.php

Just my sense of humour.

Best regards,

Steve

[Sapphire]

so they travel millions ( or billions ) of light years to us, and we tell them no, go away, you have germs:confused:

if they can travel all that way to us, wouldn't they be advanced enough to know not to make direct contact without taking every precaution they can?:confused:

[Agape]

Stephen Hawking is original thinker and he 's gone quite far in the line of his work which is both theoretical physics but naturally included cosmological theories and whatever one can derrive using imagination, logic and calculus relying on physical laws known to us.
I doubt that everyone can appreciate his theories as to people who are not exactly 'originals' what he speaks about may give just a little sense.
People tend to follow others train of thought and forget there is freedom in it, space around, further and higher you go..

I think that his statements should be taken with 'pinch of salt' because that's how they're meant from him. He is adventurous theoretic but does not cross the thin line between
speculation and knowledge of someone who had an experience .

I know how odd it feels because, I dare to say, we all had been on both sides. I can't imagine how would I possibly argue pro existence of ET life on Earth before I knew first hands and without doubt that there's connection.
Unless the ET intelligence source is revealed to him, and similarly oriented scientists , without face-to-face experience,
how can they know ?

To paraphraze his statement about 'humankind having future in space' , I'd say 'we need the hand from the other side to be able to explore space '.
The speed of our technical evolution might be all too slow than to allow us advanced space travel comparable to civilisations who are not only much older than we are but also, share and enhance their technologies with other space civilisations known to them.

Living isolated from everyone else is not a great advantage ..

:fish2:

Agape

[Majorion]

so they travel millions ( or billions ) of light years to us ...

... if they can travel all that way to us, wouldn't they be advanced enough to know not to make direct contact without taking every precaution they can?
Hi Sapphire, what makes you assume that other humanoids or any other et life would have to come here from that far away; millions (or billions) of light years? its almost like you're saying they come all the way from another galaxy, have you considered that they could be close as this very solar system?

Advanced doesn't mean they will be abide by human protocols, nor does it mean that they have to, after all we are hardly an authority on the matter, we are more like a nursery.

[Fredkc]

Forgetting for the moment the idea they've been here wince white paint was cheap...

A new arrival might make some rather frightening mistakes, in all innocence.
For instance, suppose reading our thoughts came natural to them.
Then they read the desires of all the people, and in all good faith, "give" everyone exactly what they're wishing for at the moment.

and if'n that isn't scary enough.... lemme go think some more.

Fred

Oops! dbl-post

[rosie]

I believe Steven Hawking is being cautious as his train of thought may run more towards inter-dimensional beings, which is so much more then just some E.T.'s flying into our airspace. With the inter-dimensional spin on it, the possibilities are endless, and with a mind like his, probably even very scary.

love & light

[lightblue]

With the inter-dimensional spin on it, the possibilities are endless, and with a mind like his, probably even very scary.


the thought scares me out of wits too....they can be anything..

can inter-dimensional life be based on our planet...which would make it indiginous, same as we think of ourselves...if so, they'd be going through a similar palavah....l

[Mirror]

"Don't talk to aliens".... Hmm.... Then we should stop talking to each other right?:confused: :p

At least it's progress....

[lightblue]

Quote Originally Posted by lightblue View Post
they'd choke on me...next to skinny...

this poster is a joke, has to be...is it not?

bashi: Let me joke a bite ...

choke away..

[Bomack]

Seth Shostak, of The SETI Institute, says (via Twitter):


Hawking says be careful about broadcasting. But there's this: any society able to come to Earth is able to see our streetlamps.

[Humble Janitor]

I think Hawking knows more than he will give off. Regardless, his statement disappoints me.

[Pathos83]

Someone of his intelligence should know that such statements will only instill more fear in the ignorant masses.. Why do that? The average person is probably thinking that if such a great mind is fearful, they should all be.. I am also very disappointed that someone of his intelligence would mention nothing of other possibilities..

[Jnana]

A pretty decent response to Hawking here:

Commentary on Stephen Hawking and avoiding extraterrestrial contact (http://www.examiner.com/x-7722-Denver-Extraterrestrial-Contact-Examiner~y2010m4d27-Commentary-on-Stephen-Hawking-and-avoiding-extraterrestrial-contact)

[blue777]

Someone of his intelligence should know that such statements will only instill more fear in the ignorant masses.. Why do that? The average person is probably thinking that if such a great mind is fearful, they should all be.. I am also very disappointed that someone of his intelligence would mention nothing of other possibilities..

yes i totally agree with you....why not talk to the aliens..lol

[K626]

The fact that 'they' have been talking and guiding us for at least a few hundred years and some would argue thousands of years, makes Hawkings statement a bit redundant really.

[rosie]

Jnana, I agree! I feel that response could come from most of us here, and is so enlightening to see in print.
:)
Thanks!

[Agape]

The whole extraterrestrial prism is about ..denial of modality . It's entwined deep to the matrix of your biological identity and it's been fertilized by long time dissociation from our original, self-conscious, awareness .
First contact with anything out of the range of usual perception is like trying to switch on sleeping centers of our brain,
they're there but being disfunctional, not always they switch on immediately..
That's why, some can see ETs in their presence sooner than others .

There's space-time discrepancy between two differently organized fields of space-time the two are inhabiting as well. The field has to be adjusted .

Without direct experience face-to-face the other beings, some triggers in peoples brains are hardly ever to be switched on, because so far,
we can not operate on the human level in our full capacity,
not even the best of us can compare to the intelligence level operating on the other side.

Why, because the worlds we come from originally, are far better settled to time-space, to their respective solar systems and galaxies.
Even a small change in the life of a Star can make a huge difference to how life is being sustained in its surroundings.

With milliards of years of consciouss evolution, what will be the evolutionary stage of advanced life forms,
your sci-fi imagination has the answers though not all of them...

Compared to it, life on the Earth, is in early stages of development, as well as this life bearing planet is still very young, very coarse compared to our worlds.
It's heavy in its core and its physical nature though calming is still wild , we do not experience any such turbulences or cataclysms in other parts of universe.

The denial of modality and skepticism of even so called modern physics to ET phenomenon as presumably more intelligent organisation of matter existing in other parts of universe ..

It's not easy to understand creatures whose evolution stage is bellow us, but still more difficult to understand those who are of more complexity,
in denial to greater intelligencies, we tend to simplify and also, mistake are committed in our easy judgement .

'They' may be well living besides 'us', yet we may not know ..'they' might be your father, mother or even yourself. They might be the man who denies 'aliens'.
Is it not the 'alien' in himself he denies, and those with medical background will know that it's often our physical degeneration , auto-immune self-destructive response to our organisms common to all of human processes that disqualifies us from growing further .

Did i say anything..

:sleep:

[Menkaure]

Not every being will be as barbaric as humans!

[freespirit]

Here's a link to an article in today's Sunday Times. Stephen Hawking has made a documentary.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/science/space/article7107207.ece



Thats the trouble with scientists, some of them are very narrow-minded individuals.
'don't talk to aliens' i'm in two minds to make a joke at he's expense.

[Etherios]

Some more videos ... it says its april 30 ...

http://disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/44442/EXTRATERRESTRIAL_LIFE_DEBATE_Larry_King_pt_1/

http://disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/44443/EXTRATERRESTRIAL_LIFE_DEBATE_Larry_King_pt_2/

http://disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/44444/EXTRATERRESTRIAL_LIFE_DEBATE_Larry_King_Pt_3/

[Majorion]

Thats the trouble with scientists, some of them are very narrow-minded individuals.
'don't talk to aliens' i'm in two minds to make a joke at he's expense.
Exactly, he may be a brilliant scientist, but doesn't look like he's got much of an imagination.

[Agape]

Some more videos ... it says its april 30 ...

http://disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/44442/EXTRATERRESTRIAL_LIFE_DEBATE_Larry_King_pt_1/

http://disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/44443/EXTRATERRESTRIAL_LIFE_DEBATE_Larry_King_pt_2/

http://disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/44444/EXTRATERRESTRIAL_LIFE_DEBATE_Larry_King_Pt_3/

Thank you for updates . Larry King was pretty swift to call Stephen Hawking for more answers and bring Michio Kaku, Seth Shostak from SETI , astronomer Daniel Brin and Dan Akroyd together and present some opinion,
obviously, all of them independently call for more discussion about extreterristrial life and its possible impact on mankind and rightly conclude that there's much more we need to discover yet..

Each of them is presenting valid points . Could be a tiny little step for mainstream science to discuss ETs ?


:clock: Is it too early or too late. As we could not do better than we did, so far, it must be the right time then..

[Etherios]

i just saw 2 different tv shows here in greece about aliens and what Hawkings said. They are giving way too much weight in his comments and they dont judge what he says at all. As Agape said maybe its too little to late for any kind of ways positive or negative.

Btw they pointed out that Hawkings is making a documentary about aliens , maybe what he is saying is all about publicity and sells... not to say that he doesnt talk at all about free energy. Its like hawkings knows nothing about all the technologies that are suppressed and thinks that aliens need to harness the solar energy of their star to use it .... sad i expected more from him... so i think this is all set up.

[Rocky_Shorz]

does anyone wonder about the timing of his shows release to the liftoff of the X-37B unmanned Space Shuttle?

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/04/23/article-1268138-09429BF1000005DC-276_634x646.jpg

[Agape]

Prof. Hawking quite like many other 'academics' lives in the close box of his line of research, and in his case it's theoretical physics , maths, abstract logic . In his secluded path of thought he has reached already very far, further than many others and i'm sure he is not in his ends yet , i don't find his comments so disappointing ( how many can appreciate what he and others had done about the theory of black holes , string theory, understanding time-space from many different perspectives, many just use his ideas freely now and claim them for their own )
considering that he lives in closed box without any certified access to information about ET visits to Earth ( these people consider such information mostly 'tales' as what else remains to them unless they'd be right employed by clandestine orgs with access to first hand information or unless they've had contact experience themselves ? )
so in that line he's already a 'success' if opening the door or ears of others to the theoretical but acceptedly serious idea that there is intelligent life elsewhere in universe :dance:

But of course you are correct , these people are descendants of exact science that was once based on materialistic dogma and evolution theory , having limited technical means to investigate anyones claims that are beyond their technical possibilities and so the science took once very particular direction to free itself from religious dogma , cut itself from subtle perceptions and observations, cut itself from few living principles that are equally valid ,
yet can't be immediately proved. And this is the result....

Now who shall be too surprised that actual ET agenda is in hands of believers ?

But there's long time call for the problem being rectified , and there's where ethical evolution of society comes into question, as certain keys to knowledge will remain hidden from those who are not mature enough, say ethically, to confront the truth .
So it's like the need to grow up a bit for mankind to be able to understand, to communicate with other cultures and civilisations, pay respect to differences but not to lose once own self-esteem,
and to be able to decipher information if shared..

[Bomack]

And then there's the possibility that Steven Hawking's comment was designed to ruffle the feathers of the "closet dwellers", provoking them to "come out"? Take a look at this article from today's (5/03/10) issue of CTV News (Canada):

Ex-defence minister defends aliens, says Hawking wrong
http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20100502/stephen-hawking-aliens-canada-100502/20100502/?hub=Canada

[norman]

And then there's the possibility that Steven Hawking's comment was designed to ruffle the feathers of the "closet dwellers", provoking them to "come out"? Take a look at this article from today's (5/03/10) issue of CTV News (Canada):

Ex-defence minister defends aliens, says Hawking wrong
http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20100502/stephen-hawking-aliens-canada-100502/20100502/?hub=Canada


That's a very well spotted and item. I think it deserves a full read here on the thread: ( and what a very honest looking face he has for a 'polititian' too )


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The Canadian Press

Date: Sunday May. 2, 2010 3:32 PM ET

MONTREAL — Stephen Hawking's warnings of an alien invasion have prompted a vigorous defence of extraterrestrials by their most prominent Canadian fan.

Former federal defence minister Paul Hellyer, 86, believes not only that aliens have visited Earth but also that they have contributed greatly to human technological advances.

So he can't quite understand why the world renowned astrophysicist views them with such trepidation; Hawking recently warned that malevolent aliens could lead to the destruction of humanity.

The longtime cabinet minister accuses Hawking of spreading misinformation about extraterrestrials.

"I think he's indulging in some pretty scary talk there that I would have hoped would not come from someone with such an established stature," Hellyer said in an interview.

"I think it's really sad that a scientist of his repute would contribute to what I would consider more misinformation about a vast and very important subject."

Hawking speculates in a new documentary that most extraterrestrial life will be similar to microbes, or small animals -- but he adds that advanced life forms may be "nomads, looking to conquer and colonize" new planets.

Hellyer served in the Liberal cabinets of Louis St. Laurent, Lester Pearson and Pierre Trudeau, later crossed the floor to the Conservative party, and eventually returned to the Liberals.

Hellyer, who ran for the Liberal party leadership in 1968, has been speaking out publicly about "the star visitors" for years. His most recent speech was in Washington in April 2009.

He dismisses a suggestion that some people might find his views a little hard to believe.

"The reality is that they've (aliens) been visiting Earth for decades and probably millennia and have contributed considerably to our knowledge," Hellyer said.

He says earthlings owe a lot to their alien friends. Even that computer screen on your desk, he says, can trace its origins to spaceships.

"Microchips, for example, fiber-optics, they are just two of the many things that allegedly -- and probably for real -- came from crashed vehicles," Hellyer said.

Hellyer admits that when he was defence minister, he never got any briefings on UFOs from the military. He says he got reports of sightings, and that some of them could not be explained.

His interest in aliens goes back at least as far as 1967, Canada's centennial year.

That's the year Hellyer went to St. Paul, Alta., to officially inaugurate the world's first flying saucer landing pad which was built by the locals to celebrate the centennial.

The town continues to get about 5,000 visitors a year, with more than half making a pilgrimage to the landing pad.

Liberal Senator Colin Kenny was approached by Hellyer in late 2005 and asked to hold public hearings on Canadian exopolitics. That's the politics of how to deal with extraterrestrial contact.

Kenny, who chaired the Senate defence committee, remembers the meeting well.

"I liked Paul, I worked for him in the leadership race in 1968, and when he called me up to see me I was pleased to see him and we reminisced for a while," Kenny recalls.

"Then, wow! Out of the blue, he starts talking about extraterrestrials and how they're everywhere and they have these immense powers."

Kenny says his opinion about aliens hasn't changed since that meeting five years ago: "I think it's for the birds."

"I'm certainly not going to waste any of my time on the extraterrestrial business," Kenny said.

A past president of the Royal Astronomical Society of Canada agrees there might be UFOs out there, but he's a little more hesitant about aliens. He takes Hawking's warning with a grain of salt.

"I think it's an opinion more than anything," Randy Attwood said.

"I think he may be throwing the ball out into the field, just to try to get people to actually start talking about this."

Attwood says data gathered during the exploration of Mars by unmanned spacecraft give some credence to Hawking, who is an honorary member of the astronomical society.

"All things are pointing now to life on Mars in the past, possibly when its orbit was different," he said. "It had an atmosphere, it was warmer, there was running water."

"So it's quite possible that life was in fact there -- not Martian wilder beasts or anything like that -- but multiple-cell organisms."

Attwood says given that one of Earth's closest neighbours potentially had life, it's quite possible that life, in fact, exists elsewhere in the universe.

"Whether it's single-celled or multiple-cell, or beings that are actually travelling through space, we don't know," he said.



Well, that's putting like it is.


norman.

[Menkaure]

Not every entity will be as barbaric as 'humans'. We all know, even if we don't admit it to ourselves that if the 'aliens' wanted to kick some earth butt, we would have been toast aeons ago.

[Etherios]

A new reply to Hawkins ... his text sure stirred up things...

http://www.zone-ufo.com/?p=3472&lang=en

[K626]

A new reply to Hawkins ... his text sure stirred up things...

http://www.zone-ufo.com/?p=3472&lang=en

The last thing a lot of scientists want is ET showing up all the nonsense they've been peddling over the years. :p

[Jnana]

There's a new article in the New York Times today, in large part a response to Hawking:

Ethics for Extraterrestrials (http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/05/04/the-moral-alien/)


It’s not crazy to think that, broadly speaking, this sort of challenge would eventually face an intelligent species on any planet. Certainly the challenge’s technological underpinning — that the capacity to escape your solar system arrives well after the capacity to destroy your planet — could reflect the order in which the laws of physics reveal themselves to any inquisitive species, not a peculiar intellectual path taken by our species.

So maybe any visiting aliens would themselves have passed this test; they’d have mustered the moral progress necessary to avoid ruining their planet, and this progress would involve enough genuine enlightenment — enough respect for sentient life — that we’d be safe in their hands.

[norman]

If I can get the audio plug-in to work properly,........... here's a quick sound bite of Alex Jones stating his position on the subject too:


http://www.tindeck.com/listen/fgkk



[nope!..... I faild to get it to work. Perhaps someone could show me how to do it. I've uploaded the mp3 to a host site called Tindeck.com and I've tried both BB and HTML links.]

[shiva777]

who cares what Hawkins says...turn it in to a joke like this

http://www.colbertnation.com/the-colbert-report-videos/308737/may-04-2010/stephen-hawking-is-such-an-a-hole---time-travel

[Etherios]

Well Now you know how old and behind hawkins is... (i dont want to think he is part of the dilusion) look at the trailers here ... its sad http://dsc.discovery.com/tv/stephen-hawking/#mkcpgn=ytdsc1

He still thinks the old way ...


And here is a new movie that might be a great start... http://www.youtube.com/user/NewParadigmFilms

[Philbert]

I think it is important to see things from both perspectives so we as individuals can make rational decisions if need be.

I very much enjoyed the way that Steve Greer presented the argument against what Steven Hawkins theorized about having no contact with E.Ts as they could be hostile.

Well anyone that has studied the subject for a ling time, knows that we have been visited for thousands of years if not longer.
If the intent of the E.Ts was hostile then it would have been evident by now.

There are 7 parts to the information but I have only posted the first two parts as they are the most relevant to the subject matter here.


RIR-Steven Greer-ET: Friend or Enemy? 1/7


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmDWdmQecSY&feature=related

RIR-Steven Greer-ET: Friend or Enemy? 2/7


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKt8vsHDshc&feature=related

[starninja]

Stardustaquarion wrote:
I like Hawking and respect him because he had the courage to correct himself. Very few scientists will do that! As for aliens he has a very valid point! If extraterrestrials are anything like humans, think about it....what humans did to the indigenous peoples all over the world? Need I say more

Humanity is not all bad so it is very likely that aliens are not all bad my question will be. If you were living on a planet where harmony and self resposibility reings, will you bother to come to a planet like Earth just to help? why? I would not unless it served a greater purpose.... On those basis is easy to see that if they are like many humans we better run and if they are better than humans, what do they want?....I don't think there is such a thing as a 100 pct free lunch!


Well said, Stardustaquarion. :thumb: As humans we can be quite gullible. :lol: We need to start asking those questions.

[Philbert]

I have been thinking along the same lines that I have been disappointed with Hawkings supposed statement. I used to always stop to listen to Hawking throughout my younger years and even into adulthood. He used to say some remarkable things, but I never remember him stepping over the edge so far that he would not be able to pull himself back up in any idea he delivered.

I believe the alleged statement from hawking is not his own. I believe this has been put into his mouth so to speak.



If anyone has seen the disclosure project where the woman speaks of the government playing out a false alien attack as being the last card, so everyone can believe that are government will protect its people from this attack.

Because it just does not make sense that hawking would say something so profound without actually providing some solid show cause.

Investigating the whole life outside this planet thing I have found that history tells us we have been visited for a long time. That being said if aliens or those who are from off planet earth, that come from far distances or even within our own solar system, why would they have not just taken over the earth and its resources long ago. I believe that movies like war of the world and such are trying to synchronize the masses for believing in the false attack when the governments implement it. I believe they are waiting for the right time when majority of the population have been brain washed enough into believing that aliens are hostile.




Food for thought,
Stephen Hawking's zero-gravity flight in a "Vomit Comet" of Zero Gravity Corporation, during which he experienced weightlessness eight times, took place on 26 April 2007.[24] He became the first quadriplegic to float in zero-gravity. This was the first time in forty years that he moved freely, without his wheelchair.

Steven Hakings statement “Many people have asked me why I am taking this flight. I am doing it for many reasons. First of all, I believe that life on Earth is at an ever-increasing risk of being wiped out by a disaster such as sudden nuclear war, a genetically engineered virus, or other dangers. I think the human race has no future if it doesn't go into space. I therefore want to encourage public interest in space.”

Source =http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Hawking

Now Hawkings should understand that going into space would involve encounters with other life forms. So then if he is against contact with E.T then why is he for going into space?



Here is an article from Canada CTV NEWS


Ex-defense minister defends aliens, says Hawking is wrong.




The Canadian Press

Date: Sunday May. 2, 2010 3:32 PM ET

MONTREAL — Stephen Hawking's warnings of an alien invasion have prompted a vigorous defence of extraterrestrials by their most prominent Canadian fan.

Former federal defense minister Paul Hellyer, 86, believes not only that aliens have visited Earth but also that they have contributed greatly to human technological advances.

So he can't quite understand why the world renowned astrophysicist views them with such trepidation; Hawking recently warned that malevolent aliens could lead to the destruction of humanity.

The longtime cabinet minister accuses Hawking of spreading misinformation about extraterrestrials.

"I think he's indulging in some pretty scary talk there that I would have hoped would not come from someone with such an established stature," Hellyer said in an interview.

More at the link below


Link to the source
http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20100502/stephen-hawking-aliens-canada-100502/20100502?hub=Canada

It just does not make any sense that a man of his intelligence would create a double edge sward in his thinking.

[RAKMEiSTER]

all i can say after seeing all episodes, is that i dislike the way he's been used now
i always respected Stephen H for what he has done and was doing.
but the way he's been diverted to tell a one sided negative vibe "possibility" story is not what we the people need. and its even on lots a parts outdated both for historic and future prognoses .
beside the for me a fact that some of his Computer spoken words , arent his (im not quoting as im trying to keep it short and allready gotten on longer than i anticipated xd


some historic news (for ones that missed it)
A 75,000 year-old stone calendar - In the cradle of humankind.
http://www.galacticroundtable.com/forum/topics/older-than-the-giza-pyramids
for nl readers
http://www.niburu.nl/index.php?articleID=23654
matches up nicely isnt it with the 100.000 years old deeeep deep goldmines in south africa.
both history and current day make the future