View Full Version : A revolution without leaders and tens of thousands of volunteers... BRING IT ON !!!
astrid
27th February 2011, 06:31
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVwLB1QVWYQ
This is how it's done......
I for one will be sending out healing and prayers to these people,
who wants to join me???
crosby
27th February 2011, 06:48
Astrid, thanks so much for posting this update. it is very uplifting to watch the peoples of this nation come together and take it back. thanks again.
regards, corson
58andfixed
27th February 2011, 07:02
Gene Sharp
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-12522848
21 February 2011
Ruaridh Arrow
"Author of the nonviolent revolution rulebook "
"This is Dr Gene Sharp the man now credited with the strategy behind the toppling of the Egyptian government."
"Gene Sharp is the world's foremost expert on non-violent revolution."
"His work has been translated into more than 30 languages, his books slipped across borders and hidden from secret policemen all over the world."
****
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gene_Sharp
"Professor Emeritus of political science at the University of Massachusetts Dartmouth and Nobel Peace Prize nominee."
"He is known for his extensive writings on nonviolent struggle, which have influenced numerous anti-government resistance movements around the world."
http://www.aeinstein.org/organizations/org/FDTD.pdf
Discernment is required to be able to avoid complicity in evil, and take action in things that result in good.
- 58
astrid
27th February 2011, 07:15
Astrid, thanks so much for posting this update. it is very uplifting to watch the peoples of this nation come together and take it back. thanks again.
regards, corson
yes.... VERY UPLIFTING, brought me to tears actually.
There is so much hope, the human spirit does and will prevail in these times of adversity,
Sometimes it just takes the first person to step forward.
Let us not let this event pass without understanding its significance.
This Is a message the world needs so badly to hear.
Standing together and standing strong, we will build this new earth.
Ahkenaten
27th February 2011, 07:21
Before we rush to fall all over ourselves congratulating this person and that for what is going on it might be wise to let the dust settle down in order to better discern what ACTUALLY IS GOING ON, don't you think?
crosby
27th February 2011, 07:33
Before we rush to fall all over ourselves congratulating this person and that for what is going on it might be wise to let the dust settle down in order to better discern what ACTUALLY IS GOING ON, don't you think?
so what IS ACTUALLY GOING ON????????????
CORSON
i think that we're all quite capable of being happy in one moment of triumph without the condemnation of you.
astrid
27th February 2011, 07:50
http://news.yahoo.com/s/dailybeast/20110226/ts_dailybeast/12619_benghazithefreelibyancity
Protesters in Benghazi, a major city in the east, fought the government and won. Now they’re building their future. Babak Dehghanpisheh reports from “Free Libya.” Plus, shocking photos and videos from Libya's streets.
The young men in the black Toyota Camry speed down the seaside road, the thundering waves unable to drown out the sound of their firing guns. Across the road, a man wearing green camouflage pants and a checkered black-and-white keffiyeh lifts his AK-47 and blasts an entire clip in the air.
This isn’t a battle for control of the town; it’s a celebration in eastern Libya which protesters have liberated from the government’s control. At the border with Egypt, black graffiti scrawled on a wall tells visitors about the territory they’re about to enter: “Free Libya.” And proud fighters in mismatched uniforms scramble to have their pictures taken in front of their handiwork. “Imagine somebody has tied your hands and blindfolded you for 42 years,” says Col. Adel ben Omran, 49, an air force officer who deserted to join the protesters. “And then they untie you. It’s like you’re in heaven.” In Benghazi itself, men hang off a seafront wall, clapping and singing boisterously out of tune. Families wave the green, black, and red flag of Libya that dates back to the time of the monarchy. Posters and effigies mocking the country’s psychotic leader Muammar Gaddafi are ubiquitous. One man has tied a green scarf, the color of Gaddafi’s flag, around the neck of his dog. “This is an insult to the dog,” he says with a grin.
Benghazi, as its residents love to point out, is the town where it all began. Protests kicked off when a prominent lawyer was detained on Feb. 15, and quickly spread after activists called for a nationwide anti-regime rally two days later. Within a week, disenchanted youths, political activists, disgruntled tribal leaders and—perhaps most importantly—defecting military leaders wrested control of large swaths of eastern Libya, shaking the regime of one of the most brutal despots in the Middle East.
One man has tied a green scarf, the color of Gaddafi’s flag, around the neck of his dog. “This is an insult to the dog,” he says with a grin.
The uprising in Libya was inspired in part by the recent uprisings in Tunisia and Egypt; organizers even took a page from their fellow protesters' playbook. In Libya, young activists rallied supporters through a Facebook page called the “Grandchildren of Al Mukhtar,” a reference to Omar Mukhtar, a beloved anti-colonial hero.
But that may be where the similarities with the other uprisings end. Gaddafi has more in common with Saddam Hussein than he does with Hosni Mubarak or Tunisia’s Zine al Abeddine Ben Ali. Like Hussein, the Libyan dictator skillfully and brutally played rival tribal groups against each other for years and, like Hussein, Gaddafi wasn’t shy about using violence on his own people to clamp down on dissent. In Benghazi, that meant mowing down protesters with anti-aircraft guns.
Opposition fighters eagerly show off the 14.5 mm rounds they’ve found around the city, as well as stomach-churning videos of shredded bodies. The question that many Libyans ask is who exactly is behind these horrific attacks. Many blame the murtazeqa, or mercenaries.
Jihad Gatlawi, a 26-year old businessman, was among the demonstrators in central Benghazi last week and tells of seeing hundreds of men in yellow hardhats attacking protesters with pistols and sticks. “I saw them shooting and beating people all around me,” says Gatlawi, gesturing his hands wildly to recreate the chaotic scene. “I couldn’t believe my eyes.” Many, he says, appeared to be foreigners.
Peter Bouckaert, the emergencies director for Human Rights Watch, says that Gaddafi likely brought in foreign fighters. “But they’re not mercenaries in the classical sense,” he says, pointing out that the Libyan leader has long supported African opposition groups, some of which have training camps set up inside Libya.
Figuring out who is who in the chaos of the fighting isn’t always easy. In a detention room at the central Benghazi courthouse, which now functions as the de-facto town hall, a dozen alleged mercenaries are being held. The prisoners hail from Ghana, Eritrea, Chad, and Ethiopia. Some say they have lived in Libya for years but were attacked by opposition supporters who saw them as a threat.
Despite these sporadic attacks, there is some semblance of order in “Free Libya.” Fighters may have mismatched uniforms but they still conduct searches at checkpoints with some level of professionalism. And there haven’t been any reports of widespread looting. In fact, the residents of “Free Libya” are trying to patch together a local government.
On Friday, a group of calling itself the 17th of February Revolutionary Committee, including more than a dozen lawyers, judges, and academics, met at the Benghazi town hall to discuss how exactly they could preserve what they had achieved in their newly liberated zone. They had decided that they should pursue a course that was part resistance and part civil works: They pledged to send volunteers to Tripoli, if the government continued to attack protesters, but also discussed how to set up a functioning judicial system and keep banks open.
“We will have a democracy,” says Hafiz Ghogha, a lawyer and committee spokesman. “We have waited too long to give up what the youth have now achieved.”
astrid
27th February 2011, 07:56
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-12579451
New media emerge in 'liberated' Libya
New radio stations and other news outlets have emerged in eastern Libya where opponents of Colonel Muammar Gaddafi have seized control.
A new daily newspaper - called Libya - has appeared in the country's second city Benghazi, where residents have been celebrating their ''liberation'' with huge demonstrations.
And two opposition-controlled radio stations, thought to be using the transmitters of Libyan state radio that have fallen into opposition hands, have been heard from neighbouring countries.
"Radio Free Libya from the Green Mountain" - presumed to be beaming from al-Bayda - has been urging other Libyan cities to join the "revolution".
Libyan activists have been using a separate, web-based radio to broadcast phone calls from opposition supporters. Their location is unknown and broadcasts have been intermittent.
This budding media scene is in sharp contrast to the environment created by Col Gaddafi in the decades since he came to power in 1969. Under his restrictions newspapers and broadcasters have exercised self-censorship and according to the media rights body Reporters Without Borders, press freedom has been "virtually non-existent".
We win or die'
The new daily paper Libya has been reporting on ''liberation'' celebrations, how volunteers have been cleaning the streets and how they have been giving food and shelter to foreign workers.
In its first edition, dated 23 February, the broadsheet chronicles the violent struggle before the city's fall, and carries pictures of ''martyrs'' of the battle for control.
The paper carries the strapline "We do not surrender - we win or die", the words of Umar al-Mukhtar, a Libyan resistance leader during the Italian occupation.
The masthead includes Libya's national flag before Colonel Gaddafi took power.
The uprising has created opportunities for citizen journalists. Pictures and videos of developments - violence, the aftermath and celebrations - have made their way from Libya onto Facebook pages which have been providing a continuous stream of updates. Facebook and Twitter are reportedly blocked inside the country but users have apparently managed to circumvent restrictions by using proxy servers and other means.
Lord Sidious
27th February 2011, 08:41
I have spent a lot of time amongst arabs and I have found them to be a very friendly, hospitable people.
I hope that the Libyans and the other arab nations take control for themselves and don't lose it.
And to them all I say, assalamu alaykum, rahmatullah, wa barakatu.
astrid
28th February 2011, 00:29
U.S. reaching out to rebel forces in Libya, Clinton says
By NANCY A. YOUSSEF, WARREN P. STROBEL AND MARGARET TALEV
McClatchy Newspapers
BENGHAZI, Libya -- The Obama administration appeared Sunday to welcome the formation of a national opposition government in Libya, with Secretary of State Hillary Clinton saying "we've been reaching out" to forces trying to oust dictator Moammar Gadhafi and are prepared "to offer any kind of assistance that anyone wishes to have from the United States."
Clinton's comments came as former high-ranking Libyan aides to Gadhafi who resigned since the uprising and his bloody crackdown began 12 days ago met behind closed doors in rebel-held Benghazi in eastern Libya, the country's second-largest city, to create an alternative national government. Organizers said the government will include liberated cities and towns and emphasized it was temporary.
With an unconfirmed death toll estimated in the hundreds to the thousands, Gadhafi still held the capital of Tripoli on Sunday. Residents of nearby Zawiya said Gadhafi's forces were circling the outskirts of their city after being run out days ago.
Two men told McClatchy in separate interviews by cell phone that Gadhafi forces were attacking on the edges of the city but had not re-entered the center, but that they feared that could happen at any time. The men spoke on condition of anonymity, fearing for their safety. One of the men also said there had been about two dozen kidnappings in the city since Friday.
It was unclear how high level the U.S. overtures to the opposition have been - or just what sort of aid has been offered or accepted and whether that includes military assistance.
Clinton spoke with reporters before departing for Geneva, Switzerland, where she'll discuss the Libyan situation at a meeting Monday of the United Nations Human Rights Council. President Barack Obama is to meet Monday in Washington to discuss the situation with U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon.
Clinton did not explicitly endorse the opposition government. She said the discussion is "just at the beginning of what will follow Gadhafi."
"First we have to see the end of his regime with no further violence and bloodshed, which is a big challenge in front of all of us," she said. "But we've been reaching out to many different Libyans who are attempting to organize in the east and as the revolution moves westward there as well. I think it's way too soon to tell how this is going to play out, but we're going to be ready and prepared to offer any kind of assistance that anyone wishes to have from the United States."
A spokesman for the opposition government, Abdulhafid Gouqa, said at a news conference in Benghazi on Sunday that the organizers were not talking to foreign governments and were not interested in outside intervention.
He also emphasized that the government was still being shaped and that he could not offer many specifics, but he insisted there would be no negotiations with Gadhafi's regime. "Our blood cannot be negotiated," he said.
More anti-government protests were reported across the Middle East on Sunday. At least one protester was killed by security forces in Oman, according to news service reports. The Tunisian prime minister agreed to step down, after reports of at least five protesters being killed since Friday. Thousands also protested against the king in Bahrain
Back in the United States, Sens. John McCain, R-Ariz., and Joe Lieberman, a Connecticut independent, urged Obama to impose a no-fly zone over Libya, which would prevent Gadhafi from flying military aircraft to attack rebel territory, and to offer aid to the provisional Libyan government being formed in liberated areas in the country's east.
Read more: http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/02/27/2088524/us-reaching-out-to-rebel-forces.html#ixzz1FD0VO9AP
indiana
28th February 2011, 00:33
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indiana
28th February 2011, 04:16
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Moemers
28th February 2011, 04:48
I was on board the fear train for all of this, but I've recently been hopeful and positive and I really really wish these people the best.
I feel like there's something coming, and one day I hope to meet one of these people and thank them for starting the wheel turning.
Lord Sidious
28th February 2011, 07:55
Last time Paul,., its worth it. thanking u in advance for ur help, work, attention etc.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KYIdrV3cdlk&NR=1
That should fix it.
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