If law fails, CIA will “Assassinate Assange”

[jackovesk]

RT
Feb 26, 2011

Judge Howard Riddle, the bane of Julian Assange’s existence for the past three months, has granted Sweden’s extradition request. The WikiLeaks founder has already repealed the ruling, but his worst fears have been cemented: the rape charges are going to follow him for the rest of his life, perhaps even after years of repeals. Former Reagan Administration Paul Craig Roberts says there is a concerted effort to shut Assange up. If the legal attempt fails, he’ll be assassinated by a CIA assassination team.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nuYLHCvM-7s&feature=player_embedded

[crosby]

seems apropos considering how they operate. it will keep coming though. there are others out there waiting......they will release more information, and they will nail to the wall more corrupt leaders.....so i hope they have their hard hats on, cuz the s&^t storm will fall directly on their heads. revolution is occurring all over the place right now, on the ground with people, and now it's in the news with people who want the truth reported. the truth will overcome.........
warmest regards, corson

[johnf]

I watched a minute od this and must have herd it wrong, this is what I heard.
Assange is revealing the actual sordid nature of the government, so HE is a terrible threat to the government, not the sordid behavior of the government.
So he is such a threat that the CIA will have to kill him.
But what if you believe that the government is a tool of something else that is hiding a much more powerful and sordid set of behaiviours.
Well the CIA just assassinating it's imagined enemies left and right being exposed is a much smaller evil than the actions of the bigger perpetrations on
the planet being exposed.

[Darla Ken Pearce]

Julian is a symbol of the winds of change, ascension into a higher realm and the impossibility of keeping secrets forever. While he is the icon and will be instrumental in bringing down all the current governments, so that interim governments will come forth. He is not a real danger to anyone including those deluded enough to believe what you are hearing on the news about him. It's biased and does not work in our interest. Even or especially the CIA will not survive these revelations. It's a done deal. The landscape of our lives is about to take a change for the better like you could never have imagined possible.

The truth is that the information that once belonged to Julian has been placed in trust all over the internet and in hundreds of places, hard drives and soft drives spanning the entire globe. The key has been given. A signal readied. It can't be stopped from coming forth and it will do so very soon. Julian is blessed, honored, but his great value is in organizing this information, coordinating it, and putting it out there for others to sort. We have entered into an age where nothing will be kept secret. Secrecy is to be left behind as we enter the Fifth Dimension and we are at the gate now. What has been held back in order to give governments a chance to redeem themselves with the people is so outrageous, so incredible, so dastardly, we are talking from the highest courts to the lower, from each branch and all of Congress, the resignations will be something worthy of turning your TV's back on to observe. No blood needs to be shed. Truth will out. It's as simple as that...

All the rot and stink will be cleansed and there is no power on earth that has a snowballs chance in the Sahara of surviving the enlightened backlash that will come. I wonder why Julian hasn't given the signal for it all to be unleashed? He is negotiating and hoping some sense will come to the corrupt and those wallowing in greed. And who knows, perhaps, it will come to them and they will cease bad acts, and resign voluntarily so that their lives and freedom might be spared. In any event, I would not take bets on it. Hearts can change and we can hope for a new vision to overtake them. Just in case, you might want to get your popcorn handy and a comfortable chair because a great show is about to begin. We have waited a very long time for this. Namaste! Much love! Be in great joy! xoxox

[Ruby L.]

Assange is revealing the actual sordid nature of the government, so HE is a terrible threat to the government, not the sordid behavior of the government.


Yes johnf, Assange is SO evil, even George Bush doesn't want anything to do with him!

Check out the headline from today's article in the Daily Mail (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1360774/George-Bush-refuses-attend-conference-hearing-Julian-Assange-bill.html):

George Bush boycotts conference after hearing Julian Assange is also on the bill


George W Bush has cancelled a scheduled appearance at a conference tomorrow because Wikileaks founder Julian Assange is on the same bill.

The former U.S. president was due to attend an education discussion in Denver but todayreleased a statement saying he did not want to share the same forum with someone who has 'wilfully and repeatedly done great harm to the interests of the U.S'.

Ahahahahaaa! These guys have NO sense of irony, do they???

Assange is supposed to participate via video link, but most likely wont be able to because tptw is keeping him too busy fighting for his life.

(Btw, wikileak's headline for this article is more to the point:

Bush can't handle a WikiLeaks educated audience: boycotts Denver CEO conference :lol: )

Source (http://twitter.com/wikileaks)

ETA: off topic note: Shame Bush wont be at the conference; I would've really enjoyed listening to him discuss education. Oh well. The man's got principles; gotta respect that, eh? ( :no: )

[jackovesk]

seems apropos considering how they operate. it will keep coming though. there are others out there waiting......they will release more information, and they will nail to the wall more corrupt leaders.....so i hope they have their hard hats on, cuz the s&^t storm will fall directly on their heads. revolution is occurring all over the place right now, on the ground with people, and now it's in the news with people who want the truth reported. the truth will overcome.........
warmest regards, corson

Now that's what I'm talkin bout Corson my American Friend...

Some 'Good Old Spirited' Human Patriotism!

Agree with you 110%...

Regards
Jack

[K626]

Julian is a symbol of the winds of change, ascension into a higher realm and the impossibility of keeping secrets forever. While he is the icon and will be instrumental in bringing down all the current governments, so that interim governments will come forth. He is not a real danger to anyone including those deluded enough to believe what you are hearing on the news about him. It's biased and does not work in our interest. Even or especially the CIA will not survive these revelations. It's a done deal. The landscape of our lives is about to take a change for the better like you could never have imagined possible.

The truth is that the information that once belonged to Julian has been placed in trust all over the internet and in hundreds of places, hard drives and soft drives spanning the entire globe. The key has been given. A signal readied. It can't be stopped from coming forth and it will do so very soon. Julian is blessed, honored, but his great value is in organizing this information, coordinating it, and putting it out there for others to sort. We have entered into an age where nothing will be kept secret. Secrecy is to be left behind as we enter the Fifth Dimension and we are at the gate now. What has been held back in order to give governments a chance to redeem themselves with the people is so outrageous, so incredible, so dastardly, we are talking from the highest courts to the lower, from each branch and all of Congress, the resignations will be something worthy of turning your TV's back on to observe. No blood needs to be shed. Truth will out. It's as simple as that...

All the rot and stink will be cleansed and there is no power on earth that has a snowballs chance in the Sahara of surviving the enlightened backlash that will come. I wonder why Julian hasn't given the signal for it all to be unleashed? He is negotiating and hoping some sense will come to the corrupt and those wallowing in greed. And who knows, perhaps, it will come to them and they will cease bad acts, and resign voluntarily so that their lives and freedom might be spared. In any event, I would not take bets on it. Hearts can change and we can hope for a new vision to overtake them. Just in case, you might want to get your popcorn handy and a comfortable chair because a great show is about to begin. We have waited a very long time for this. Namaste! Much love! Be in great joy! xoxox

Good stuff Darla. Unlike those that have unecessarily worried about taking sides, it's pretty clear to me many have taken sides ages ago. The heart wants what the heart wants.

Peace and Love

K

[king anthony]

Prof. Tom Flanagan call for "assassination' of WikiLeaks director Julian Assange on CBC News Network November 30 2010 6:10 pm.

The professor is the advisor to the Prime Minister of Canada, (who is a born American) called for the Assassination of Julian Assange on national television.

I wonder what would happen if someone stated they wanted someone else dead... on television? Charged? Fired? This would mean Tom Flanagan would have the opportunity for a defense and appeal; he just arrested, charged, tried, convicted and executed Julian Assange without process (from the comfort of his chair - and he 'feels manly today').

If anything should happen to Julian Assange, then in the best interest of justice, people should turn Tom Flanagan in, and make sure the world knows what he has done! No one forget the name of Tom Flanagan!

If 'they can do it to Julian Assange - you can be next.

People have been distracted with the alleged, meaningless controversy surrounding the messenger (Julian Assange) - people need to (re)focus on what the message(s) has been. Do people look at the finger pointing, what is in the opposite direction, what the finger is pointing to or beyond?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tv_KDCd_NcI

[Steven]

Prof. Tom Flanagan call for "assassination' of WikiLeaks director Julian Assange on CBC News Network November 30 2010 6:10 pm...

Just to add for your post about Tom Flanagan, which is an interesting individual seeing his work in favor of Louis Riel.

Quotes from: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Flanagan_%28political_scientist%29

"The next day Flanagan retracted his statments by saying "I never seriously intended to advocate or propose the assassination of Mr. Assange. But I do think that what he's doing is very malicious and harmful to diplomacy and endangering people's lives, and I think it should be stopped."Assange has called for Flanagan to be charged with incitement to commit murder. There have also been public calls for a criminal investigation into Flanagan's incitement to murder Assange, including a petition signed by 60 University of Calgary alumni saying that Flanagan's remarks had tarnished the school's reputation. Calgary police are currently compiling evidence to probe whether criminal charges should be laid against Flanagan. Flanagan allegedly threatened Janet Reymond, a resident of Toronto, who wrote an email to him asking if those who did not support his political views should be assassinated as well. He replied with an email saying "Be careful, we know where you live."He later apologized to Ms. Reymond." End of the quote.

Everything isn't clearly black and white, but rather a net of interactive power at play with everyone trying to gain something. Some are in survival mode, others in increasing influence. The truth might come from the greatest liars and it might be withhold by the most trustworthy individual.

I just avoid demonizing or "angelizing" anyone in this world. Assange is certainly shacking our governments, at the exception of Israel, so their is something good coming out, but not the whole thing.

Personally, I don't think he will be assassinated. I think he got worldwide attention necessary to prevent this option. They will rather use their propaganda machine to discredit him. They know that it doesn't need to be true for the public to discredit Assange, thus decreasing the impact of the leaks. Plus, Assange is not a "Martin Luther King", his voice are the documents released. As long as the process is stopped, he is not a threat to them.

On the other hand, in a greater scheme, it is in perfect concordance with the Ethic manifesting in our society according to the mayan pyramid of evolution. I guess their will be other "Assange" coming out soon. In the same perspective, all the uprising in the middle east are manifestation of Ethic in humanity.

Namaste, Steven

[king anthony]

Just to add for your post about Tom Flanagan, which is an interesting individual seeing his work in favor of Louis Riel. Namaste, Steven

Thank you for quoting me.

There is a high probability that he won't be assassinated; however, depending on the arrogance of 'them', they could make an example of him regardless.

Retracted or not, there are those 'idiots' or 'Manchurian Candidates' who will hear the words of killing and (try) to act on it - the words have been spoken.

In addition, there are many other officials publicly promoting the death of Julian Assange directly or indirectly; however, I am sure they all have a defense as well.

[jjl]

No one would dare, too many encrypted files in the computers of citizens all over the world.

[Moemers]

Assassinations, I think, are going to be few and far between in the info-age we live in.

[waterlily]

What a sad comment by are so called educated sector to even speak of assassinating Assange. The real criminals are speaking out - They forget this is someone elses children .fathers, mothers, sisters,and brothers who they speak of assassinating -shame on all those who come on TV and even think of saying such a thing .Manley and Assange has done what most people are scared to do.and I exclude those people in Mk Ultra programs that had no choice in the matter. So many people have died to get the truth out and all of us should defend and protect these people with the best of our abilities especially through the media and other means because people should be informed of what is really happening .and I totally sign off with two words-TOTALLY DISGUSTED

[shybastid]

This just does'nt make sense.

Extradite him and he lives. Leave him free and he will be murdered..

Why do those options seem weak to me?

Either way, I don't think he has good justified choices to withhold the info.

Does'nt sound like he has much to lose.

Might as well call their bluff.

Let it fly.

[l3ol3o]

No way he gets assassinated by the CIA. If he dies, everyone will be pointing the finger at the CIA. It will be way to obvious. If anyone takes him out it will have to look like a total accident. Even then, everyone will still point straight to the CIA. They are going to have to try to shut him up through other means.

[Flash]

In my idea they (US) will have him killed by another alphabet letters government, thinking stupidly that they will freak out other potential Assange. Mix this with the new law being proposed in US congress (see the related thread) against the internet, making you and I criminals for mentioning Assange, and here is the fright being installed.

If the two events above happen, we should all, all forums in the internet, agree to post political stuff at the same time during at least a month non stop, they cannot arrest millions of people around the world.

here the thread for the US congress
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?15121-New-law-will-fine-jail-anyone-who-shares-information.&highlight=congress+law+internet

[jackovesk]

No way he gets assassinated by the CIA. If he dies, everyone will be pointing the finger at the CIA. It will be way to obvious. If anyone takes him out it will have to look like a total accident. Even then, everyone will still point straight to the CIA. They are going to have to try to shut him up through other means.

I agree with you l3ol3o,

By Paul Craig Roberts speaking out publically saying "there is a concerted effort to shut Assange up. If the legal attempt fails, he’ll be assassinated by a CIA assassination team."

The option to Assassinate Assange may have been taken off the table.

[felixq78]

RT
Feb 26, 2011

Judge Howard Riddle, the bane of Julian Assange’s existence for the past three months, has granted Sweden’s extradition request. The WikiLeaks founder has already repealed the ruling, but his worst fears have been cemented: the rape charges are going to follow him for the rest of his life, perhaps even after years of repeals. Former Reagan Administration Paul Craig Roberts says there is a concerted effort to shut Assange up. If the legal attempt fails, he’ll be assassinated by a CIA assassination team.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nuYLHCvM-7s&feature=player_embedded
Are these Yankees totally insane, don't they understand that the cat is out of the bag and that they'll be creating a martyr and in the same process tell the whole world that all the marginalised alternate news/journalists and their organisations where right all the way along?
It will be like admitting:"Yes, that's right we are the lying, murderous criminals you've suspected and we'll murder anyone who opposes us"
A lot of fence sitters would finally make a choice for freedom and democracy.
They could wipe out the whole of Wikileaks and the next day 20 more Wikileaks would appear.
What these fools don't realise is that we cannot be bought or intimidated, we'll die for the cause of justice and freedom for all, our own personal safety doesn't concern us because we care about the whole of HUMANITY and it's future, WE'RE NOT AFRAID OF THEM.:heh:

[jjl]

felix not to worry, there are more than 150,000 computers all over the world containing zip files that will be unlocked should he or any of his people die or go to prison. I've been following this pretty closely.

[felixq78]

These bully boys may have a bloody revolution on their hands if they aren't careful.
America is on the verge of economic collapse, the game is almost over yet they continue to believe that they can still push us around.
I hope I live long enough to see them come crashing down and see that the PEOPLE of the US regain their freedom and dignity.

[Eva2]

I just received this in an email - on Coast to Coast tonight. I think this is a good place to post it. Tarpley's theory about Wikileaks sounds interesting.

Tuesday March 1, 2011

Coast to Coast broadcast tonight


Quote Activist historian Webster Tarpley will discuss the invisible hands behind the changes in Egypt , and how it brings us closer to World War III,

as well as how we can pull out of the current depression,

and why Wikileaks is a well orchestrated "striptease" by the CIA to reveal selected information. Unquote

[Carmody]

the thing about Assange is I don't see him dumping his information,if indeed he has it.

If he has it, dump it in the public domain.

For if he is for real and is hoping to hold it for his safety, then where lies his integrity?

Perhaps I'm missing some parts of this puzzle, so excuse me.

[Eva2]

the thing about Assange is I don't see him dumping his information,if indeed he has it.

If he has it, dump it in the public domain.

For if he is for real and is hoping to hold it for his safety, then where lies his integrity?

Perhaps I'm missing some parts of this puzzle, so excuse me.

I agree - it would be interesting to hear how Tarpley comes to this conclusion

[John Tate]

They won't murder Julian Assange. People with his skillset and ability to host content like that are a dime a dozen these days. It doesn't really solve or achieve anything at all.

Wikileaks has suffered a similar fate to the monster Atlas. They were digging up in many places, now we are just left with an archive and a trickle of leaks after a flood. Wikileaks had become a thorn in the side of a large number of groups. On top of that Obama has been desperate for a way to end the status-quo in diplomatic relations for years. Far from a false flag, giving them Cablegate was probably a desperate attempt to keep Wikileaks busy to prevent any bad news from effecting the economy. When it comes to economics the current Administration actually believe everything is ruled by emotions and sentiments. In the early stages of recovery they do not want people like Wikileaks exposing incredibly corrupt companies and especially banks destroying investors faith in massive pools of capital that if the truth were known about their management practices the "recovery" would be obliterated by a stampede of selling. To put it nice and simply: Cablegate does the Obama Admin a favor by hitting the reset button on diplomatic relations, and it does the economy a favor by putting a stop to leaks and bad news. Wikileaks has been deceased since about November, in the name of blind folding investors from a new insight into companies and god knows what else.

All in all releasing the cables has done little for the world but distract Wikileaks which could have been a great a thing. They were finding all kinds of things and inspiring a lot of individuals trapped into positions for tyrants they did not want to make a run for freedom by ending the lies that leave them in pretty unpleasant situations. Wikileaks was doing more good without cablegate. Did we ever get the Bank of America leaks? No. Did the site ever return to normal in Febuary? No. We did get some plans by Bank of America's contractors to attack Wikileaks. Not much else though. You should try and read the Forbes interview from November of Julian Assange before Cablegate happened. Assange has not been able to deliver a single one of his promises he outlined in the interview. The man has probably already been killed and replaced or is operating at gunpoint.

I've been a long term follower of Wikileaks for years now, and simply that site has been destroyed by having the world strapped to its shoulders like Atlas out of Greek mythology.

[Snowbird]

jackovesk-Former Reagan Administration Paul Craig Roberts says there is a concerted effort to shut Assange up. If the legal attempt fails, he’ll be assassinated by a CIA assassination team.

These assassinations and attempted assassinations are for real. And it isn't only the high profile people who are suicided. I seriously doubt that Assange will ever shut up, especially now, after what they have done to him.

There exist many Assanges around the world who are daily gathering momentum. Julian Assange is not alone.


johnf-Assange is revealing the actual sordid nature of the government, so HE is a terrible threat to the government, not the sordid behavior of the government.

Yes, and this is one of the basic reasons for this HUGE display of governmental contempt for Assange. Its a diversion and cover.


RubyL-Bush can't handle a WikiLeaks educated audience: boycotts Denver CEO conference

Shame Bush wont be at the conference; I would've really enjoyed listening to him discuss education.

"We look forward to analyzing and working with legislation that will make--it would hope--put a free press's mind at ease that you're not being denied information you shouldn't see." - George W. Bush, April 14, 2005, Washington , D.C.

"I think anybody who doesn't think I'm smart enough to handle the job is underestimating." - GWB, April 3, 2000, U.S. News & World Report

"We expect the states to show us whether or not we're achieving simple objectives--like literacy, literacy in math, the ability to read and write." - GWB, April 28, 2005, Washington, D.C.

I can't even imagine anyone inviting George W. Bush to a conference concerning anything educational. How dumb can they be?


king anthony-I wonder what would happen if someone stated they wanted someone else dead... on television? Charged? Fired? This would mean Tom Flanagan would have the opportunity for a defense and appeal; he just arrested, charged, tried, convicted and executed Julian Assange without process (from the comfort of his chair - and he 'feels manly today').

If anything should happen to Julian Assange, then in the best interest of justice, people should turn Tom Flanagan in, and make sure the world knows what he has done! No one forget the name of Tom Flanagan!

I would hope that Prof. Tom Flanagan is brought to justice before something happens to Assange.



Steven-"Assange has called for Flanagan to be charged with incitement to commit murder. There have also been public calls for a criminal investigation into Flanagan's incitement to murder Assange, including a petition signed by 60 University of Calgary alumni saying that Flanagan's remarks had tarnished the school's reputation. Calgary police are currently compiling evidence to probe whether criminal charges should be laid against Flanagan.

Nothing will happen to him. He's one of 'them'.

[Fred259]

Who benefits from all this media comment regarding the assassination of Julian Assange? Can I suggest Julian Assange perhaps?

Who is Julian Assange? Do we really really know who he is, or is it we just think we know.

How is it Assange is able to get access to all this information?

When Assange release this information does this show the US government or any government in a positive or negative light?

If the answer to the above question is negative, can we agree he is exposing the US Government.

Who benefits from the US government in the gutters? Is it “the people”, you and me, democracy?.

Are we really really sure we know who Assange really is?

What if Assange was working for the Russians? Would he still be such a great guy?

-
----------------------------


Let’s play toy soldiers.


I am the King of my country.

I have an army and solders who protect my country.

The army and the soldiers are loyal to me.

My army and soldiers will defend my country against foreign attack.

Do you think it’s a good idea allowing other powerful people the ability to raise an army?

If these other powerful people had an army, they might overthrow me and I would no longer be King.

In Britain we have an army, the British Army. In Russia they have an army, the Russian Army. In Australia they have an army, the Australian Army.

In America, how many armies do they have?

In America, who controls these armies?


-----------------------------


Let’s play Politicians.

We assume when we elect a politician that he or she is loyal to the country.

What if he or she isn’t ?

How would we know?

In Britain we have a politician Lord Powell. He is a member of the House of Lords.
http://www.parliament.uk/biographies/charles-powell/26501

Lord Powell is also a special representative for the Rothschild family.

Do you think he should be part of the House of Lords part of the British Government?



Who is Julian Assange?

[161803398]

Empire or Banana Republic?

[Pillowtalk]

Julian is a symbol of the winds of change, ascension into a higher realm and the impossibility of keeping secrets forever. While he is the icon and will be instrumental in bringing down all the current governments, so that interim governments will come forth. He is not a real danger to anyone including those deluded enough to believe what you are hearing on the news about him. It's biased and does not work in our interest. Even or especially the CIA will not survive these revelations. It's a done deal. The landscape of our lives is about to take a change for the better like you could never have imagined possible.

The truth is that the information that once belonged to Julian has been placed in trust all over the internet and in hundreds of places, hard drives and soft drives spanning the entire globe. The key has been given. A signal readied. It can't be stopped from coming forth and it will do so very soon. Julian is blessed, honored, but his great value is in organizing this information, coordinating it, and putting it out there for others to sort. We have entered into an age where nothing will be kept secret. Secrecy is to be left behind as we enter the Fifth Dimension and we are at the gate now. What has been held back in order to give governments a chance to redeem themselves with the people is so outrageous, so incredible, so dastardly, we are talking from the highest courts to the lower, from each branch and all of Congress, the resignations will be something worthy of turning your TV's back on to observe. No blood needs to be shed. Truth will out. It's as simple as that...

All the rot and stink will be cleansed and there is no power on earth that has a snowballs chance in the Sahara of surviving the enlightened backlash that will come. I wonder why Julian hasn't given the signal for it all to be unleashed? He is negotiating and hoping some sense will come to the corrupt and those wallowing in greed. And who knows, perhaps, it will come to them and they will cease bad acts, and resign voluntarily so that their lives and freedom might be spared. In any event, I would not take bets on it. Hearts can change and we can hope for a new vision to overtake them. Just in case, you might want to get your popcorn handy and a comfortable chair because a great show is about to begin. We have waited a very long time for this. Namaste! Much love! Be in great joy! xoxox

Oh my, a fabricated rape charge & some MSM manipulation, has you all toeing the line.
How easy is this, FFS
& people keep saying that "it is impossible for the few to control the many" - a friend of mine told me a while back that the 'truther' movement was, in his words - "WIDE OPEN" (for infiltration) he was not wrong was he??

Also, just out of curiosity, do you actually know what the word "Namaste" means (we mostly say Namaskar as it happens), or is it just some-thing you say to sound a little more spiritual.
Just curious, not trying to be rude.
You see I live in India, & so often hear Europeans using that word with no idea what it means.






I just received this in an email - on Coast to Coast tonight. I think this is a good place to post it. Tarpley's theory about Wikileaks sounds interesting.

Tuesday March 1, 2011

Coast to Coast broadcast tonight


Quote Activist historian Webster Tarpley will discuss the invisible hands behind the changes in Egypt , and how it brings us closer to World War III,

as well as how we can pull out of the current depression,

and why Wikileaks is a well orchestrated "striptease" by the CIA to reveal selected information. Unquote

Well, you are on the right track there, perhaps a little more digging will avail you the truth about our little friend Assange.


Who benefits from all this media comment regarding the assassination of Julian Assange? Can I suggest Julian Assange perhaps?

Who is Julian Assange? Do we really really know who he is, or is it we just think we know.

How is it Assange is able to get access to all this information?

When Assange release this information does this show the US government or any government in a positive or negative light?

If the answer to the above question is negative, can we agree he is exposing the US Government.

Who benefits from the US government in the gutters? Is it “the people”, you and me, democracy?.

Are we really really sure we know who Assange really is?

What if Assange was working for the Russians? Would he still be such a great guy?


More questions, with-out answers.
If he was working for Israel, would you trust him even less that if he was working for Russian intelligence (FSB).

This smoke & mirror's game sure is VERY effective, how do you get a Dog to chase his own tale?? (rhetorical)

PT

[Cidersomerset]

Hi All.. it is very easy for us to be manipulated by a few, it always has, and probably will be. Living in India you will be aware of this ,middle east , Sudan,N Irland all have suffered..Unless this media revolution we call the web and personal communication is still kept relitively free.This is unlikely ,Liam Fox British Deffence minister, yesterday on TV reponding to the British army regulars being reduced from 101,000 to 80,000 in the next few years, mainly by closing the remaining bases in Germany..So we can safely say war with Russia is not on the agenda and never was IMHO just an excuse for the military ind complex to make money and influance poorer countries during the cold war..
Mr Fox said the next major threat was cyber war...He did notmention terrorism because as this is a white paper for the next decade, he probably forgot about this other elite backed scare to fill in the gap between cold and space wars...
I know you have suffered tremendously in Mombai and other places , and there always has and always will be terrorists/freedom fighters , but the PTB have manipulated this 'natural' human responce to oppression, and turned it into a 9/11 global event to justify there impossible, no win war on terror to justify draconian laws and individual freedoms which will probably put restrictions on the web like China..

It is easy for gvernments to scare their populations into giving up freedoms...Being radiated , taking your shoes/belts no drinks, all done to protect us from dodgy CIA/MI5 false flag events ,shoe bomber underpants bomber both with serious credibility issus, not followed up in the press.
The agents thinking this up in Langly and Thames House London must be falling off their chairs laughing at us 'Sheeple' Though a lot of us know this is stupid. If your with your family at a airport or on a works trip they know we have to 'COMPLY'...We largly police ourselves which is good for everyday missdemeanors and when/if we evolve as a global society ...oppressive policing and armies and power hungry elites will be a thing of the past...On this current timeline we are many years away from that ,unless something dramatic changes which is why 'awake' people like those interested in this field enjoy sites like this..

7 billion people being maniplated by a few presidents, Banksters and puppet masters behind the scenes does not make sence to the average 'Joe' ...'Your all mad' 'conspirciy theorist ' the government would not do anything like that ...Even with all the mainstream evidence and books of all the scandels over the years , and with 'MURDOCH' all over the newspapers/TV 90% of the sheeple do not give a 'T==s.. Until it directly effects them and they start to go hungry . The puppet masters know this and try to keep things in balance...A few wars here and there to sell arms and keep things alittle bit unstable...Drug cartels, sex Trafficing , The odd famine as in East Africa to kill off a few hundred thousnd possibly million useless eaters ....Your not telling me if the UN wanted to save lives by stockpiling food stratigically around the world' disasters could be averted as most of them are forseen as has this one in East Africa was and the Ethiopia one was in the eighties. Its imoral for the UN to sanction Multi Trillion expendature on wars . When food,water, and shelter should be the basic right of every 'Human' being anywhere on the planet.....This subject is vast and i could go on but you get the jist.

So yes it is very easy for the few to manipulate the many......'Until most of us wake up'...Cheers Steve

20,000 regulars to be cut.....
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2011/07/18/army-faces-20000-troops-r_n_901238.html


Despite every thing we will win in the end...Humanity will evolve.
Heres a lighter momment , as laughter is better than medicine for the Soul..LOL..

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[Maia Gabrial]

Sounds to me like Tommie was feeling more "meanly" than manly....

[Cidersomerset]

Yes Maia it shows the stupid pomposity of war and how lucky we were not have lost to facsicm by force....But as you know living in the west and especially the US, corporate And State = Facsicm sound familier..
Our parents stopped the PTB overt plans in the forties , but we are losing the covert war fought ever since for greed and power.....Corporate capitilist democracy =Facsicm ...'Don't tell Them There Commies'........Although it would have not mattered because they were being manipulated by the PTB/Banksres as well ...so we were/are all scre===...Cheers steve

[Adi]

[QUOTE=Cidersomerset;265751]Hi All.. it is very easy for us to be manipulated by a few, it always has, and probably will be. Living in India you will be aware of this ,middle east , Sudan,N Irland all have suffered..Unless this media revolution we call the web and personal communication is still kept relitively free.This is unlikely ,Liam Fox British Deffence minister, yesterday on TV reponding to the British army regulars being reduced from 101,000 to 80,000 in the next few years, mainly by closing the remaining bases in Germany..So we can safely say war with Russia is not on the agenda and never was IMHO just an excuse for the military ind complex to make money and influance poorer countries during the cold war..
Mr Fox said the next major threat was cyber war...He did notmention terrorism because as this is a white paper for the next decade, he probably forgot about this other elite backed scare to fill in the gap between cold and space wars...
I know you have suffered tremendously in Mombai and other places , and there always has and always will be terrorists/freedom fighters , but the PTB have manipulated this 'natural' human responce to oppression, and turned it into a 9/11 global event to justify there impossible, no win war on terror to justify draconian laws and individual freedoms which will probably put restrictions on the web like China..

It is easy for gvernments to scare their populations into giving up freedoms...Being radiated , taking your shoes/belts no drinks, all done to protect us from dodgy CIA/MI5 false flag events ,shoe bomber underpants bomber both with serious credibility issus, not followed up in the press.
The agents thinking this up in Langly and Thames House London must be falling off their chairs laughing at us 'Sheeple' Though a lot of us know this is stupid. If your with your family at a airport or on a works trip they know we have to 'COMPLY'...We largly police ourselves which is good for everyday missdemeanors and when/if we evolve as a global society ...oppressive policing and armies and power hungry elites will be a thing of the past...On this current timeline we are many years away from that ,unless something dramatic changes which is why 'awake' people like those interested in this field enjoy sites like this..

[s3nru]

they desperately want to make an example out of Assange. Too late though.

[Cidersomerset]

Aldi...I did have a loose link , The CIA can assasinate anyone. Assange at the momment is to much in the public eye , but a year or two down the line if he is not an insider he will probably have a 'Accident'
Like I said most of the hit squads are run out of Langly or Thames House...they don't give 00 licences to kill for nothing...As we are learning Ian Flemming was a expert inteligence agent himselfe...
So yes Assange is a potential assasination target by our intelligence agencies if he is not one of them......

[Positive Vibe Merchant]

There are those out there who believe that Julian Assange is a Rothschild (isreali) plant.

Regardless of who he takes his orders from, whats to stop the CIA etc from getting him hit...?

The way things are right now, they could deny, but say... well if it was us, what are you going to do about it?

Really? What are you/me/we going to do about it?

PVM

[loveandgratitude]

Any insider can be asassinated when they are no longer useful.

[Darla Ken Pearce]

Wikileaks' through Anonymous or whoever ~ needs to release ALL it's information. They've had time to sort through and find the best bits and are set-up to get it out there in some coherent manner with or without Julian. To not do so ~ is compounding his problems, and is leaving him open to assassination and silencing. He has everything set-up to go viral but hasn't pulled the trigger yet. Why not? Whats the holdup? Why is the timing being held back? What is gained by not revealing all they can right now in the present moment?

Once he lets loose all that he's compiled, all his troubles go away like a bad nightmare. There will be hope and, perhaps, even real justice coming forth. The only question is when and why not now? One can only speculate. It's not encouraging to see all these delays.

[Positive Vibe Merchant]

I agree Darla.

Even if they just release it as the 'middle man' and dont sort through it and leave it to us to decide on its authenticity, it gives people the potion to investigate. trather than drip feeding.

That is why there is more to it that what they release. someoen sis behind it pulling the strings.

PVM

[Darla Ken Pearce]

Yes, PVM, not sure what it is ~ but definitely not all being seen that's going on here. Doesn't make sense either not to disclose. He has all the information on ET's too. Why is that not forthcoming? It should have been first. Really rock all the boats at once! He would personally be freed as well. No doubt about it. Higher powers introduced and brought forth and all.

[modwiz]

I do not mean to be cold but his demise would be one less distraction. When the orcs start internecine warfare it will be better for us all.

I do believe it has begun and some orcs have begun to resonate with their original untwisted origins as well.

[olgraybear]

Its in regards to Assange, and the other character, Anonymous,
and to all others who claim to be holding information, yet they with-hold
it saying its not the appropiate time, (they made the decision for the rest of
society if and when it should be heard)

My confusing question is, If all of the people that say they have incriminating proof and info about anything and everything that is discussed and debated as is here on Avalon, then why don't they
release it and share it with the world? Is it really just to draw it out, make a buck, sell the books, draw more attention, bigger crowds at all of the conferences, hmmm, would you have an
opinion, why its not just "spilled" and let the so called cow-chips fall where they may.?

What could possibly be in this instance for Assange anyway, be the possible one main factor for the continued secrecy, well, how about his Mother, someone more important to him than maybe even himself, ok, let's see what everyone else thinks,