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linz2d
27th February 2011, 14:08
I find this an interesting topic because I personally doubt if there is any global shift in consciousness happening at this present time. Again there is so much information on this subject that it can put anyone into information overload.
If there is a shift happening then I do not think that it is a positive when I look at society as whole, if you have ever read the comments on Youtube you will know this is so and when you ask people on the street about spirituality, they think that you are referring to whisky or vodka. :doh:
The only time I can see a major shift in consciousness happening is if there was some major global event which made people stop and look again to see what is really important to them.
greybeard
27th February 2011, 14:38
Fear not it is happening.
Eckhart Tolle the autor of the The Power of Now and A New Earth ( both have sold many million copies, over a thousand people will now turn out to a talk of his)
Anyway--- he was asked about consciousness rising, He said the good is quiet compared to the noisy, the dying old consciousness is putting up a fight.
Seems a separation is happening.
Twenty years ago how many would have bough his books? Not many, he spoke to an audience of millions on the Oprah Winfery show for ten consecutive weeks, people skped in questions over five million videoed each show so if there is four to a family then 20 million watched.
So yes there is hope for the future.
Chris
Nairnia
27th February 2011, 18:30
I find this an interesting topic because I personally doubt if there is any global shift in consciousness happening at this present time.
If there is a shift happening then I do not think that it is a positive when I look at society as whole.
Unfortunately I have to agree with you. To see this, you need look no further than this forum. How many people on here lay claim to be awakened, aware, enlightened etc, how many talk of this assension yet in the very next sentence warn about the illuminati, TPTB and feed off the "Charles" material?
I find it ironic that the very people who think they are fighting the mass negativity in consciencness are the ones propogating it. This is of course a massive generalisation but how can we hope to progress in a Higher vibration when all we talk about is doom and gloom and the end being nigh?
We are about to realise what we as a collective conscience are manifesting as early as mid-March, lets hope its a lesson learned.
jjl
27th February 2011, 18:35
I find this an interesting topic because I personally doubt if there is any global shift in consciousness happening at this present time.
If there is a shift happening then I do not think that it is a positive when I look at society as whole.
Unfortunately I have to agree with you. To see this, you need look no further than this forum. How many people on here lay claim to be awakened, aware, enlightened etc, how many talk of this assension yet in the very next sentence warn about the illuminati, TPTB and feed off the "Charles" material?
I find it ironic that the very people who think they are fighting the mass negativity in consciencness are the ones propogating it. This is of course a massive generalisation but how can we hope to progress in a Higher vibration when all we talk about is doom and gloom and the end being nigh?
We are about to realise what we as a collective conscience are manifesting as early as mid-March, lets hope its a lesson learned.
I wish you would reconsider this generalization. I have met some mighty nice and awake people on this forum, I hope one day to be able to emulate the goodness in them.
Nairnia
27th February 2011, 18:43
Off course there are many good people on here but a look at the consistant subject matter on the various threads would confirm linz2d hypothesis.
Dale
27th February 2011, 18:51
A brief glance at civilized history, beginning with the ancient land of Sumer, illustrates the constant ebb and flow of conscious states. If one takes the legends of ancient people literally, the pattern also carries over, in a much more direct way.
In my opinion, it becomes a bit futile to wait for the tide to rise again. It seems more natural and organic to instead ride the wave, smile often, and enjoy the process. Be a conscious observer at any stage in this grand cycle.
greybeard
27th February 2011, 18:52
I can remember when the other side of the River Ness was foreign country never mind Nairn.
We have come a long way since then the Internet has expanded boundaries some what.
All to the good, consciousness is rising.
Chris of Inversneki
Odah
27th February 2011, 18:57
yes the shift is happening . you should not worry about the increase in negativity in the world though. At this point a lot of people know this is the last time they can indulge in negativity. so people are getting it out of their system.
many of the first steps of awakening have been corrupted by the powers that be to make it a longer path.. that 1s why the laws of attraction and being awakened have been focused into gaining more wealth .
Don't get lost how awake other people are not raise your vibration and be a beacon for those who are awakening.
pilotsimone
27th February 2011, 19:11
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Nairnia
27th February 2011, 19:14
yes the shift is happening . you should not worry about the increase in negativity in the world though. At this point a lot of people know this is the last time they can indulge in negativity. so people are getting it out of their system.
many of the first steps of awakening have been corrupted by the powers that be to make it a longer path.. that 1s why the laws of attraction and being awakened have been focused into gaining more wealth .
Don't get lost how awake other people are not raise your vibration and be a beacon for those who are awakening.
No offense intended but thats just New Age talk, where do you get that from? (information)
greybeard
27th February 2011, 19:19
yes the shift is happening . you should not worry about the increase in negativity in the world though. At this point a lot of people know this is the last time they can indulge in negativity. so people are getting it out of their system.
many of the first steps of awakening have been corrupted by the powers that be to make it a longer path.. that 1s why the laws of attraction and being awakened have been focused into gaining more wealth .
Don't get lost how awake other people are not raise your vibration and be a beacon for those who are awakening.
This could well be a time of negating negative Karma and releasing all that is not you.
When you commit seriously to a spiritual path it is amazing to find the amount of emotional crap one is carrying.
All the resentments all the negativity comes up, It can be disposed of without spoiling other peoples day by surrendering it to God.
Nothing good comes easy
It is happening.
It has to.
Please listen to the coast to coast audio below.
Some scary bits but a New Earth may well be on the way.
I love when science and spirituality comes together.
Quite a few similar videos by scientists on the enlightenment thread.
Chris
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNgUdg2NAmc&feature=player_embedded
linz2d
27th February 2011, 19:35
I do believe that consciousness does have an effect on the world around us and in fact there have been studies to show that this is true. It means in some way we all connected. And while the Internet is a source of good which allows individuals to be open to new ideas, it can also has its negative effects. Look at something like facebook, someone has 1000 friends which they do not actually know, they spend most of their time conversing with strangers yet at the same time they cannot go out into the local community and do the same.
Now I love technology but there are reasons why many enlightened individuals in the past decided to live the simple life in order to pursue the spiritual path. I know I am progressing slowly on the path of finding my true self, some call it awakening, some the path to enlightenment but I know that it is a very very very long and hard path. But for my consciousness to raise to higher level it takes work and this is the problem I have with this argument of a shift in consciousness. Is it up to the few to raise the consciousness of the many, when all that the many want to do is get home after a hard days work and either go to a pub or watch a movie?
linz2d
27th February 2011, 19:41
yes the shift is happening . you should not worry about the increase in negativity in the world though. At this point a lot of people know this is the last time they can indulge in negativity. so people are getting it out of their system.
many of the first steps of awakening have been corrupted by the powers that be to make it a longer path.. that 1s why the laws of attraction and being awakened have been focused into gaining more wealth .
Don't get lost how awake other people are not raise your vibration and be a beacon for those who are awakening.
This could well be a time of negating negative Karma and releasing all that is not you.
When you commit seriously to a spiritual path it is amazing to find the amount of emotional crap one is carrying.
All the resentments all the negativity comes up, It can be disposed of without spoiling other peoples day by surrendering it to God.
Nothing good comes easy
It is happening.
It has to.
Please listen to the coast to coast audio below.
Some scary bits but a New Earth may well be on the way.
I love when science and spirituality comes together.
Quite a few similar videos by scientists on the enlightenment thread.
Chris
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNgUdg2NAmc&feature=player_embedded
Time of negativity, perhaps as nothing is constant and everything changes, so I cannot disagree with this line of thought.
Nortreb
27th February 2011, 19:43
Hello from my view of the Junk Yard, your first sentence in your quote above shows that there is shift taking place!
YOU FIND A TOPIC INTERESTING THAT YOU DOUBT IS TAKING PLACE! Hello!
Doubt is a close relative to FEAR.
It is happening.
Smile that you are witnessing it. :p
linz2d
27th February 2011, 19:44
Don't worry, it's definitely happening. I see it, I feel it, I know it.
Perhaps you have in your head 'what it should look like' and therefore you have troubling seeing?
Either way, do not concern yourself. All is unfolding perfectly. :)
Yes but that's the thing I also feel something is changing in me its like some urge, but is that just me at this time, does average Joe on the street feel it?
greybeard
27th February 2011, 19:44
I do believe that consciousness does have an effect on the world around us and in fact there have been studies to show that this is true. It means in some way we all connected. And while the Internet is a source of good which allows individuals to be open to new ideas, it can also has its negative effects. Look at something like facebook, someone has 1000 friends which they do not actually know, they spend most of their time conversing with strangers yet at the same time they cannot go out into the local community and do the same.
Now I love technology but there are reasons why many enlightened individuals in the past decided to live the simple life in order to pursue the spiritual path. I know I am progressing slowly on the path of finding my true self, some call it awakening, some the path to enlightenment but I know that it is a very very very long and hard path. But for my consciousness to raise to higher level it takes work and this is the problem I have with this argument of a shift in consciousness. Is it up to the few to raise the consciousness of the many, when all that the many want to do is get home after a hard days work and either go to a pub or watch a movie?
Just raise yours
Namaste
pilotsimone
27th February 2011, 19:50
Yes but that's the thing I also feel something is changing in me its like some urge, but is that just me at this time, does average Joe on the street feel it?
You didn't always feel it either. You're just now at the point where you are feeling it. Many others aren't at the feeling stage, but it doesn't mean nothing is happening. :)
manny
27th February 2011, 19:51
the shift is happening.
one moment i fell happy ,the next mischiefes,the next sad.
emotions are all over the shop.
i am tiered.
where is home.
i feel lost.
this is not negative,nor positive.it is just is.
Flash
27th February 2011, 19:52
yes the shift is happening . you should not worry about the increase in negativity in the world though. At this point a lot of people know this is the last time they can indulge in negativity. so people are getting it out of their system.
many of the first steps of awakening have been corrupted by the powers that be to make it a longer path.. that 1s why the laws of attraction and being awakened have been focused into gaining more wealth .
Don't get lost how awake other people are not raise your vibration and be a beacon for those who are awakening.
This could well be a time of negating negative Karma and releasing all that is not you.
When you commit seriously to a spiritual path it is amazing to find the amount of emotional crap one is carrying.
All the resentments all the negativity comes up, It can be disposed of without spoiling other peoples day by surrendering it to God.
Nothing good comes easy
It is happening.
It has to.
Please listen to the coast to coast audio below.
Some scary bits but a New Earth may well be on the way.
I love when science and spirituality comes together.
Quite a few similar videos by scientists on the enlightenment thread.
Chris
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNgUdg2NAmc&feature=player_embedded
So happy you are still here Greybeard and posting, thanks
jjl
27th February 2011, 19:56
"Yes but that's the thing I also feel something is changing in me its like some urge, but is that just me at this time, does average Joe on the street feel it? "
Oh yeah, they feel it but it makes them anxious. (like me;))
Arrowwind
27th February 2011, 20:07
Those who are not shifting in consciousness may not be able to see the shift.
If you are not seeing it and wish to pray on it and call it into your circle of self.
humanalien
27th February 2011, 20:41
the shift is happening.
one moment i fell happy ,the next mischiefes,the next sad.
emotions are all over the shop.
i am tiered.
where is home.
i feel lost.
this is not negative,nor positive.it is just is.
I to, just want to go home. I just
don't know where home is.
Eric J (Viking)
27th February 2011, 21:05
The 'shift' is happening all around us as we speak...it is happening so fast its difficult to keep up...
The middle east is now undergoing a dramatic change due to the 'consciousness' of this planet rising...people are waking up everywhere. Mubarek who ruled with an iron fist and robbed billions from his own people has gone, and will wither away. Gadafi and his cronies are slowly being dismantled and the net is closing, they will soon have no choice but to stand down. His assets will be seized and handed back to the people. The people will have their say.
The consciousness on this planet is spreading like wildfire, and I am sure there will be much more to come. What a party!!
My opinion, 'Shift in Consciousness on a global scale. Is it really happening?' You bet it is, 'right before your very eyes'.
If the 'consciousness' carries on with this pace...imagine what it will be like 12 months down the line...
The pace is quickening...whos next?
viking
Anchor
27th February 2011, 21:27
I find this an interesting topic because I personally doubt if there is any global shift in consciousness happening at this present time. Again there is so much information on this subject that it can put anyone into information overload.
If there is a shift happening then I do not think that it is a positive when I look at society as whole, if you have ever read the comments on Youtube you will know this is so and when you ask people on the street about spirituality, they think that you are referring to whisky or vodka. :doh:
The only time I can see a major shift in consciousness happening is if there was some major global event which made people stop and look again to see what is really important to them.
I think it is happening.
From what I understand, most of the transformation is going on behind the scenes at the deeper inner layers of existence, and only those that have had the opportunity and done the work to penetrate to those deeper layers are explicitly aware of it.
Those living in the external/outer layers are who want to stay there are "feeling the squeeze" and as they struggle in their attempts to retreat from the flame front of the shift, there is no where to go and the nastiness and darkness appears more concentrated.
The longer it takes for people to become aware of the change, the more bumpy a ride it will be for them - which is why those that are aware of it already need to be around to help.
Few more years and we'll be done I think - past the worst of it.
John..
Apulu
27th February 2011, 23:03
My first post... A burning topic... I agree with a few others here - the focus of enquiry should always lead us back to ourselves.
You do seem to be experiencing a shift yourself linz2d. What of average Jo then? Nothing is impossible I believe. Nothing. The next question seems to me to be: If we really are not experiencing a shift, regardless, are we ok with that and are we ok with ourselves? If the answer is no, then we have some work to do!
Any ponderings I personally have about shift or no shift I know are just speculation. I would suspect the majority of what we here is just that but I agree: it is imperative to have a positive outlook in order to create a positive future. I also 'feel' there is SOMETHING happening but who indeed knows what?
I do know for a fact that when Mr and Mrs Jo are faced with truth acting in another human being then they immediately face the same truth that they have in them (or in fact the truth that they are). Miracles are a fundamental part of reality. We are ALL the same and to perceive people as other than that is to admit that we haven't benefited them in that regard. (I don't claim to be able to do that all the time don't worry - frequently not able - and I'm not suggesting that you believe you are different from average Jo).
I have a problem adjusting to the idea of mass ascension too for some reason but I really don't think its that important. Are we ready to change the people of the world with the force of our minds? We already are. We just have to change it in the name of truth!
binemaya
27th February 2011, 23:19
If there is a shift happening then I do not think that it is a positive when I look at society as whole, if you have ever read the comments on Youtube you will know this is so and when you ask people on the street about spirituality, they think that you are referring to whisky or vodka. :doh:
hey linz2d!
I know that sometimes it just seems hopeless........ but whenever things like that occur I am sticking with Fox Mulder stating I WANT TO BELIEVE :hippie:
Snowbird
28th February 2011, 02:58
yes the shift is happening . you should not worry about the increase in negativity in the world though. At this point a lot of people know this is the last time they can indulge in negativity. so people are getting it out of their system.
many of the first steps of awakening have been corrupted by the powers that be to make it a longer path.. that 1s why the laws of attraction and being awakened have been focused into gaining more wealth .
Don't get lost how awake other people are not raise your vibration and be a beacon for those who are awakening.
This could well be a time of negating negative Karma and releasing all that is not you.
When you commit seriously to a spiritual path it is amazing to find the amount of emotional crap one is carrying.
All the resentments all the negativity comes up, It can be disposed of without spoiling other peoples day by surrendering it to God.
Nothing good comes easy
It is happening.
It has to.
Please listen to the coast to coast audio below.
Some scary bits but a New Earth may well be on the way.
I love when science and spirituality comes together.
Quite a few similar videos by scientists on the enlightenment thread.
Chris
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNgUdg2NAmc&feature=player_embedded
David Sereda is simply phenomenal. I watched recently an interview of him over on the Conscious Media Network. I'm just about ready to order one of his meditation CDs and can't wait to get it.
Good stuff!
Snowbird
28th February 2011, 03:01
the shift is happening.
one moment i fell happy ,the next mischiefes,the next sad.
emotions are all over the shop.
i am tiered.
where is home.
i feel lost.
this is not negative,nor positive.it is just is.
I to, just want to go home. I just
don't know where home is.
LOL! Join the group of don't-know-where-home-is.
king anthony
28th February 2011, 03:12
I find this an interesting topic because I personally doubt if there is any global shift in consciousness happening at this present time. Again there is so much information on this subject that it can put anyone into information overload.
It is for the 'few', not the many.
truthseekerdan
28th February 2011, 03:15
Our life will never exceed our beliefs primarily because our belief structure is part of our consciousness. If we want to change our life, we need to change our beliefs. There are unavoidable truths preceding experience that are natural in the structure of our minds. Truths that are imposed on our experience, change the very nature of experience.
We must be willing to embrace the life we have now, in the present, in order to navigate the shifting currents of human consciousness. When we stop pretending to be whole, we become whole.
We also realize that as human beings we are not perfectly designed to understand everything. For example, the linear mind does not perceive the natural rhythms and cycles that form existence. The mind presents reality from memory according to the dominant level of its consciousness. In fact, we actually do not perceive as much of the world as we once thought especially since a large amount of the visual landscape around us can be altered without us even noticing. Maybe that’s why so many of us require an expansion of faith or a subset of beliefs about the world that we tell ourselves we need in order to fill in the gaps of our perceptions, perceptions that direct us towards the truth but are not the truth itself.
enfoldedblue
28th February 2011, 03:40
For a long time I have known I was going through some sort of process, an inner transformation. Until about 2 years ago I thought it was just me. I didn't talk about it with others, except for a few close friends, I kept it to myself. When I started discovering that there were others experienceing this similar inner metamorphosis, it was such an amazing feeling. I see more and more people beginning to look inward, slowly discovering the beauty of themselves. What has been happening within me is that I came to realize that I was fighting myself on many, many unconscious levels. The conscious part of me didn't trust the unconscious part (useful simplification), and vise versa. I began to explore my unconscious and 'dig' up repressed parts of me that I had rejected. This process allowed me to heal at deep levels, to the point that I now experience a feeling of complete inner unity. It is difficult to explain, but it has completely shifted my perspective. I now feel a peaceful allignment occuring within all levels of my being, as well as between my inner and outer world.
Right now it's funny because it seems that for those who are open and 'see' there are so many amazing signs everywhere reassuring us that all is going perfectly to plan, but for those who have chosen to awken at a different pace, things can still appear to be business as usual. To me it is as though the old paradigm has had the foundation pulled out from under it...the buildings are still standing, and things appear relatively normal...but for how much longer.
The biggest raging wild fire starts with a tiny spark...it may take a while for the spark to catch...but once it gets going..watch out!!
Anyway I am just enjoying the feeling of love dancing in my heart. I don't know how long it will take but...it is happening...
LOVE ALLways, c
write4change
28th February 2011, 03:59
The thought that those yelling the loudest are those who don't want to change and this is their last final outrage while the good are quietly accommodating seems a valid one.
And another one comes to mind--a little promoted way of dealing with addictions that does work is to do it to you get it out of your system. Instead of constantly sneaking the ice cream one day sit down and eat until you are totally sick of it. For some people this really does work.
Arrowwind
28th February 2011, 04:11
I to, just want to go home. I just
don't know where home is.
He. He. he. this is my mantra!
"I want to go home
but I don't know where that is."
I must be saying this about 10 times a day for the last 30 years...
I would think that if a mantra could bring enlightenement Id be a done deal by now.
9eagle9
28th February 2011, 04:20
I did a workshop on collective human consciousness shift. Mostly to bring a halt to the expectations people had on it and get them to really look at what they are creating.
In the past, consciousness shift has not been all light and roses. We had a pretty good shift in the 60's it seems like and that was a time of great conflict, war, rebellion, anger. Apparently negative things, but in spite that it wrought a great change. This next shift may occur on the same sorts of tide. A great deal of good resulted from the Sixties but its my understanding it was time of terrible spiritual and physical strife. Then again it may not but the precedent is set and I think our last few shifts would be a good place to look at to see where another may take us. Thus far I've noticed more of new thought, new age schisms are causing even more overgrowth of the ego. Given to much to think about instead of enough to know.
The last big shift in human consciousness resulted in a huge overgrowth of the ego. Mostly due to having very dualistic beliefs imposed onto us. Zoraster, Christianity , Abrahamic based beliefs. It entrenched most of the wold in duality causing the great division in us. We tore each other to shreds in Crusades and Inquisitions over duality. Once you divide something now it has an opportunity to turn on each other. We are still doing it even in allegedly new thought, new age schisms that is supposed to 'be above all that nonsense.'
So in the workshop the first question I pose is..."What are we? What is the one common denominator that connects us all?"
Inevitably it takes an hour before someone says: "we are human."
IN between I get all sorts of answers. "We're Reincarnated angels, we're unicorns, we're aliens. (another form of duality , but now its triplicated ...lol. We're all SORTS of things) When I say " we are human, that's our single common denominator." People blink at me. Oh...yeah....that.
The reason I ask the question about human consciousness shift in these workshops is....
..... how we going to shift our human consciousness if we are believing that we are something other than human? Why aren't we working on shifting our unicorn consciousness, our alien consciousness.....?
I'm not sure what vulnerability was in place when we made the last huge shift into ego overgrowth, but we have opportunity to be aware how we can create something other than what we consciously expected if we aren't mindful of what is going on in our minds. A lot of what is bringing us up to this point in time is what we have been creating for ourselves the last 30-40 years. A lot of that is just more ego engagement. Not positive or negative, just a lot more stuff to be distracted by. The thought of being a reincarnated dolphin must be enchanting but does it really put one into a knowing place?
Come As You Are
28th February 2011, 04:39
enfoldedblue you put what I have been experiencing into words very nicely!!
Thank You
It's got a life of it's own I feel, I just have to participate and enjoy to an extent, and work on the tasks and exercises which show themselves to me. The people who are coming into my life almost by the moment are all there too. We're all learning, teaching, experiencing and loving. I feel that we are all devising a plan!
write4change
28th February 2011, 04:40
Eagle,
Your discernment on consciousness and expectations is right on. Having lived the 60s, there was no concept of paradigm shift etc. And it was not very conscious. It was rejecting what we did not want--boxes of ticky tacky and grey flannel suits. But we didn't have a plan for what would replace it. That was part of the big problem I think. That is why it just seemed like chaos to the establishment.
I joined SDS for the simple reason I was tired of dress codes and that was the first unifying biggy. However, never in my wildest imagination think I would see someone in shower clogs and a g string going to class---and I have seen that at UCLA. By then I have children and I flip back to dress codes because we have proved that we apparently have no common sense. That is how the PTB rule because we do not have a plan still and there is no such thing as benign anarchy.
truthseekerdan
28th February 2011, 04:58
how we going to shift our human consciousness if we are believing that we are something other than human? Why aren't we working on shifting our unicorn consciousness, our alien consciousness.....?
Well, basically we are not 'human consciousness', but consciousness 'entrapped' in human body (form).
In order to expand 'our consciousness' we need to free our mind from conditionings, teachings, theories and beliefs, that are applied as one goes through life.
That is hard for the person to even have any sense that (s)he is really a pure soul essence. Consciousness (a.k.a. soul), is the pure essence that is born as a human being.
Hope this helps... :)
Sierra
28th February 2011, 05:00
Write4Change sez:
"I joined SDS for the simple reason I was tired of dress codes and that was the first unifying biggy".
SDS... SDS... now remind this old fart what SDS was? Semi-what org I eyed in HS because of oh sigh his name was Frank and he had red hair... ???
bonus
28th February 2011, 05:20
I find this an interesting topic because I personally doubt if there is any global shift in consciousness happening at this present time. Again there is so much information on this subject that it can put anyone into information overload.
If there is a shift happening then I do not think that it is a positive when I look at society as whole, if you have ever read the comments on Youtube you will know this is so and when you ask people on the street about spirituality, they think that you are referring to whisky or vodka. :doh:
The only time I can see a major shift in consciousness happening is if there was some major global event which made people stop and look again to see what is really important to them.
I am convinced it is happening. For quantitative results look to the Global Consciousness Project. Viking posted this link in another thread on 2/24. Go to 1:56 in the video to hear more on this subject.
[URL="http://collegerama.tudelft.nl/mediasite/SilverlightPlayer/Default.aspx?peid=c29550a872814c2a9e7ba28ac0c7d1e61d"]
Carmody
28th February 2011, 05:24
An externalization it is, but it may be relevant. Who knows.
I'm the one who adds the potentials... and that is not clear until well into the second page.
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?15199-Comet-Elenin-Could-Hit-Earth!
write4change
28th February 2011, 05:27
SDS was the Students for a Democratic Society that first got all the protests started at Berkeley and then went national around all college campuses. They started with dress codes, moved to loco parentis, and then against the selective draft.
Feren
28th February 2011, 05:36
It's happening and it's painful. Don't you hear the screaming?
slipknotted
28th February 2011, 05:45
it's starting just look at tthe middle east and WI protesters, something is happening........ i hope.
9eagle9
28th February 2011, 11:32
So in order to free ourselves of beliefs we assume a belief we something other than human. You many have overlooked the first part about our common denominator and skipped hastily to the denial part. Most people understand we are pure consciousness, but we have to get under our humanity in order to realize that. If we deny our own humanity we tend to dehumanize others and that opportunity for realization is never made.
greybeard
28th February 2011, 12:19
So in order to free ourselves of beliefs we assume a belief we something other than human. You many have overlooked the first part about our common denominator and skipped hastily to the denial part. Most people understand we are pure consciousness, but we have to get under our humanity in order to realize that. If we deny our own humanity we tend to dehumanize others and that opportunity for realization is never made.
Thats is very true.
Eventually all belief systems all concepts must go but its not forced it happens by itself.
its simple yet complex.
We can enter fully into the human experience, and its important that we do, with out carrying baggage.
The lessons are learned in the vicissitudes of life, the ups and downs, we learn the lessons then we do not reincarnate on planet earth.
An easy way of measuring your spiritual progress is to observe one self and when something that cause an emotional reaction happens how long after the event do we carry the emotion.
Pleasant or not so pleasant.
A spiritual teaching is "Neither attraction or aversion"
This way life can be experienced fully in the moment, then the "next" moment is no "tarnished" by past event but appreciated fully.
Yogananda was asked if he did not get tired of being in a bliss state without the opposite happening.
He explained that the bliss state was ever new, ever fresh.
Namaste
vibrations
28th February 2011, 12:40
It is a first quiet revolution in many thousands of years. All "pyramidal" revolutions where one top part of a pyramid is replaced for another with a cost of many lives were just a never-ending repetition of holding power in a same place. Until the humanity as an collective started to awake. When people, one by one, starts to understand that all the reality is a fruit of their thinking and their beliefs, than the PTB just begin to lose its power. The new way of behaving start to emerge, collaboration between common people without greed, just to live and let live, the economy does not have meaning any more, people begin to put the human being above the things, and this is a birth of a new generation.
Universe is bipolar, everything has + an - pole, also the fighting energies in this final stage are positive and negative. And the negative one is very loud (politics, mass media, military etc.), so we think that the negative is powerful. But don't forget that the same amount of positive thinking is here, not wanting to be a star in some reality show, but by the universal laws it has to be her, so please, don't look what TV is saying, look inside and listen to your heart, its connected with all benevolent hearts all over the planet and beyond. We are winning; we are the founders of the new, better society.
9eagle9
28th February 2011, 12:50
It's happening and it's painful. Don't you hear the screaming?
It's going to be painful until we learn to let go of our attachments.
9eagle9
28th February 2011, 13:13
The greed comes from poverty consciousness. Usually from attachments to something and attachment occurs because we detached from something that was truly supporting and providing for us. An attachment is a false surrogate.
Our spirits don't need correction; that which keeps us from the spirit, the consciousness, does. Its that which makes the attachments. The spirit knows how to direct us to a true source. Source and each other (because we are all source behind the consciousness)
In America we were indoctrinated with the Independence and Freedom teachings. In order to have the qualities of freedom and independence one must remove themselves from the parental home as fast and far away as possible and stand alone. False teachings actually. A major act of responsibility was to go immediately in debt to secure a line of credit. To replace that which your family or community would have helped provide. Many parents emphasis this by telling their children 'be out of the house by the time your 18."
Or women friends of mine laughing about some man they dated because "he still lived with his mother." (not realizing he was probably supporting his mother as the mother was aged its doubtful that she was supporting him.)
The support given by family and community was replaced by lines of credit and time saving appliances. So there was no true freedom or independence, just attachments to things that imposed a facade of independence. You were no longer dependent on your family but baby sitters, banks, etc. Artificial constructs and attachments. They provide no true inner support but superficial pacification. That generates more scarcity. And poverty consciousness.
Basically our attachments to he false notions of Independence and Freedom is what generates the poverty consciousness.
greybeard
28th February 2011, 17:18
Had a pleasant experience today
I went to get replacement hearing aid batteries from the council offices.
Was surprises to see a little sign advertising the services of Reiki person.
When I inquired I was told that it was a friend of one of the staff.
The lady serving me said that quite a few in the office were interested in spirituality her self included.
We talked for a while.
I found it heartening that she was so open about it and that there was the notice in the council office.
Changed times for the better,
c
linz2d
28th February 2011, 17:48
Had a pleasant experience today
I went to get replacement hearing aid batteries from the council offices.
Was surprises to see a little sign advertising the services of Reiki person.
When I inquired I was told that it was a friend of one of the staff.
The lady serving me said that quite a few in the office were interested in spirituality her self included.
We talked for a while.
I found it heartening that she was so open about it and that there was the notice in the council office.
Changed times for the better,
c
I must admit even on the tube today Reiki was mentioned, although saying that there are allot of people out there that views it along the same line as money grabbing mediums. It keeps popping up so I may look into I know the history behind it and it can be used to for self healing.
Thanks for the comments everyone it looks like most here believe that there is a major shift consciousness happening but the question still remains up to what degree and why? Could it be because of impending doom or maybe people are just fed up because they are realising that perhaps there is more to life than their 9 to 5 job?
9eagle9
28th February 2011, 18:53
Admittedly I chose a more empowered life because it gave me a better quality of life. Before I much knew about the threat of impending doom (which I still don't much believe in). But once I made that choice to have a better quality of life that in turn empowered me more to shift into a better place. If I have a better quality of life I am better enabled to show others around me to have a better quality of life for themselves. But if I don't have it, I can't give it away.
9eagle9
28th February 2011, 19:22
I must admit even on the tube today Reiki was mentioned, although saying that there are allot of people out there that views it along the same line as money grabbing mediums. It keeps popping up so I may look into I know the history behind it and it can be used to for self healing.
Here in the States, Reiki has been distorted into something that you have described, money grabbing and ego ism. It's even been Christianized to make it more palatable although the original Usui teachings specifically state that the practice quoted Buddhist Sutras. It's my understandin in the UK its not so bad but I have no real means of evaluating that.
A long time ago it cost 12k or so to have a Reiki education. People screamed that money deprived them of a healing modality that should be made available to everyone. So the price of a Reiki education was reduced down to hundreds...or nothing. The first thing that happened when the masses had access to it...they perverted it and turned it into something it was never intended to be. Fluffy bunny woo woo stuff. Every wild theory and belief was drug into the art. I am presuming that the former high cost of a Reiki education, ensured that people who TRULY desired to learn how to practice Reiki and went to it with a true healing intention would get there, somehow, inspite of the money, and those who just wanted to play in their own feces would not. Unfortunately we no longer have that barrier.
I am sorry that Reiki's cost was reduced for this reason . Some other fluffy bunny modality could have been made up to appease the ego of the certificate collectors while the essence of Reiki could remain intact. Hindsight is like a braying ass though (sigh)
If you are interested please look for someone who at least is familiar with the original teachings so you don't get fed a line of bs. Here in the states there area few that stress the orginal teachings, before introducing second hand concepts that have been added later that are helpful but not really Reiki. Those who do are reviled for it. I've tried to maintain high ethics in healing which sometimes meant not doing it for long periods of time till I got my head on straight. I am literally referred to as an evil healer because I strive to keep schisms out that may harm or mislead people.
Today's westernized Reiki has churned out thousands of people who think they have mastered something when they weren't even introduced to the precepts of what they were supposed to master. But they have a piece of paper that 'says' they are a Reiki Master.
I nearly gave up teaching it for that reason. Now I'm just selective in whom I teach it to. I am not obligated to share or show it to anyone which is what Mastery is about, using discernment and learning self governance concerning healing. I no longer pass certificates in any healing modality because a healers accomplishments certify them. If someone wants something to hang on the wall they can get a certificate on line and I have no doubt they do.
Because people impose healing on me all the time I take a long hard look at their emotional and physical health to see how well they've learned their theory. That too is a form of discernment. If people are not willing to apply healing principles to themselves I'd have to ask them why they think they have the authority (mastery) to apply them to me.
Meaning make a long term study of it. Even if you don't plan to participate in it, its quite interesting. Of course you don't need Reiki to learn how to self heal, its just one modality out of many.
Sierra
28th February 2011, 19:50
SDS was the Students for a Democratic Society that first got all the protests started at Berkeley and then went national around all college campuses. They started with dress codes, moved to loco parentis, and then against the selective draft.
Oh my it *is* the same one. I became aware of SDS on the draft issue as a junior at a San Francisco high school.
linz2d
28th February 2011, 20:05
If you are interested please look for someone who at least is familiar with the original teachings so you don't get fed a line of bs. Here in the states there area few that stress the orginal teachings, before introducing second hand concepts that have been added later that are helpful but not really Reiki. Those who do are reviled for it. I've tried to maintain high ethics in healing which sometimes meant not doing it for long periods of time till I got my head on straight. I am literally referred to as an evil healer because I strive to keep schisms out that may harm or mislead people.
I must admit it, when I buy books I tend to look for ones written by the masters of a certain practice or direct translations of the original texts. I was actually looking through some Reiki books on Amazon. I notice that most say that anyone can do it. Whilst I do not know much about the subject I seriously doubt that just anybody can do it. Considering the story of how it came to be, you would think that it was meant for those you had some spiritual training or those who are spiritual developed.
Besides I am still stuck on meditation, can't get past those darn violet waves. :pray:
Revere
28th February 2011, 20:13
We find what ever we look for. That is why some see a positive change and some see a negative change. We attract and find what we seek.
-R-
pilotsimone
28th February 2011, 20:28
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Dakini
28th February 2011, 21:03
Hello all, I personally believe it is really happening. Years ago I remember reading that our DNA would be changed due to the so-called "photon belt" approaching earth. While the "photon belt" is scientifically questionable there is a great video I found that wraps up with a very sound theory about DNA changes. Presented by a geophysics prof, Titled "Space Weather" it encompasses earthquakes, electromagnetic phenomena and much more. It is long- over 2 hours, but WELL worth it.
http://collegerama.tudelft.nl/mediasite/SilverlightPlayer/Default.aspx?peid=c29550a872814c2a9e7ba28ac0c7d1e61d
I also believe that we are witnessing increased polarity at this time with the negative becoming more so, and vice-versa. Remember if it wasn't getting brighter, you would not be able to notice the darkness.
We are all on our own paths. According to Buddhism, desire, grasping and attachment are what causes spirit to get caught up in this material realm. Eliminate these and you eliminate suffering.
That said, spiritual practice of any kind is just that-practice. If it were to be perfected,( IE: enlightenment ), you would no longer be living in this realm. With the exception of those who out of compassion vow to remain here/re-incarnate to help others.
PurpleLama
1st March 2011, 02:45
anyone can be attuned to reiki, in fact, and I agree with 9eagle9 that you can discerne anothers mastery by the amount of self healing they have been willing and able to do. I have practiced and taught one of these reiki offshoots and I have had very rich and rewarding experiences in connection to the practice of it. I didn't pay much for my attunements and I give attunements and "treatments" for free. My own approach is rather fly by the seat of your pants when it comes to leading a group, in that I tend to let inspiration lead the way. I realize my own practce and teaching is pretty well diverged from the original methodologies of usui reiki, but what I know about usui himself indicates that he might be pleased with the myriad branches of his healing practice, each unique and beneficial.
I think that the struggle continues until we let go of our attachments and our detachments as well. Once the eternal perspective is at the fore of our conscious being then the temporal is seen for what it is, an extremely vivid hologram, illusion, or whatever. The thought of attachment or not becomes somewhat meaningless at that point. From eternity we are attached and yet detached to everything. This would be the be the basis for divine, unity consciousness.
yes, there is definitely a huge positive shift going on, and the negative *coughcharlescough* is doing everything it can to maintain what little power it has left. This is my own direct intuitive perception of what's going on. The PTB were supposed to have this whole population control thing finished a long time before now. It's too close to the wire and it is starting to have the dawning awareness that the game is almost done and they have lost. Meanwhile we can laugh all the way to the bank with our positive polarity.
much love to all
9eagle9
1st March 2011, 03:18
Traditional Usui Reiki teaches how to begin the healing of negative core beliefs from this lifetime and past lifetimes.It lays a pretty good foundation although its more proven in practice than in theory. Which is about everybody's biggest problem not just people going into the healing hearts. There is a value in Reiki that is stated not to heal in anger. This isn't just conscious pissiness or anger but suppressed anger from early trauma. The energy passes through those filters. The energy itself will do no harm . I can feel people's anger, fear, old trauma and wounds when they are healing me and its not pleasant to be exposed to that.
In that vane of core belief abatement it promotes a sort of spirtual transformation as well as healing transformation as the pain body or shadow self is dissolved. Unfortunately since its not taught anymore it tends to turn out a lot of wounded healers. Which are sorta scary. To varying degrees. My very good friend has just an awesome intuitive touch where you're just limp as a rag like getting a massage. But her confidence level is so low I want to scream at her. " she has this sorta of attitude that she is pathetically grateful that anyone would allow her to touch them. Her core values were never addressed. She has to be careful whom she works with and (thank you god) she is careful not work with people who have the same issues as hers.
Wounded healers run the risk of letting healing become about the healer and not the recipient. They begin to ID into the recipients emotionally wounded place and its just creates these horribly convoluted co dependency situations.
Other annoying things like why write out 65 hand placements? Or the tapping, and jiggling and massaging part? We know from EFT that tapping is a very effective means of releasing old embedded emotions and junk. I know people add good information to current manuals but why remove those part?
Fear (what else...lol)
Because of the Western mind. The Sutra states something that involves emptying your soul.
To the western mind that sounds scary. It just means getting rid of our wounds. So it was written out because it sounded intimidating and the portions of Reiki that addressed core beliefs was eased out too. I had to stop healing for a year because all my recipients were in tears at my sadness.
What the hell? I"M NOT SAD.
Well come to find out I was sad. Beneath the surface where all my embedded crap was at. Not consciously certainly but they felt it. So I had to take a year off from working with people and work on my own crap.
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