Ufo truth event

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Hi Everyone

When I got home from the UFO event Saturday I was excited to download photo's an related subject matter about the event . With a few IMO comments added on from one of the questions I asked at the end.

I'm glad I slept on it before actually posting the thread because it was turning into a piece that looked like what "I did on vacation" with accompany photos an information.
Instead of staying on topic . ( Sorry ,I still have to go off topic to get this started).

That an the fact this is going to be the first time I attempt an actual thread I would like to use this thread as a opportunity an reference for future posts with comments from the members. What I mean by that is I will use members input constructively an not as critizisms. I'm not asking anyone to hold my hand . Learning as I go . I'm thick headed so patients please.

That being said let me say that being a high school drop out who has been an observer all these years an would like to change that it will be blantantly obvious to everyone I have no command of sentence struction , spelling etc .

I want to take this opportunity to start being a information asset an proactive to the subjects that are extremely important to me in a enviroment where other people get it.

I would also like this to be my official introduction to Avalon .
I have made most comments about subjects on Avalon that have felt awkward at best because I want to participate on the forum but really have had nothing to say until now.

I have asked Inelia a few questions an I believe bugged the hell out of Giovonni an his thread to the point of embarrassment.
I say dive in with something of worth or jump ship .

This thread will be done in parts so I can learn as I go an I will start from the end of the conference first going backward to the beginning since it was small compared to some of the others I have been to an it was snowing on the way to the event an I missed the first speaker but I will still add comments about all speakers.

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James Clarkson, State director for MUFON
www.clarksonufo.com

Peter Davenport director of the National UFO Reporting Center
www.nuforc.org

Nicholas Redfern, Author, Journalist and lecturer
www.nickredfern.com

Kewaunee Lapsiritis, BA, MS, MH
http://www.wakeupnowconference.com/kewaunee.php

http://www.ufoinfo.com/conf/index.shtml

[giovonni]

Greetings Erin,
You are truly a delight to behold, your straight at you attitude - is so refreshing!
i am truly looking forward to your post and comments here.
But i hope this new broadening of your adventures here at PA2 - will still allow you to visit me often :yes4:

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This photo was after the presentation

Q&A

James Clarkson sitting in the black suit closest to camera.

Nicholas Redfern sitting center .

Peter Davenport sitting farthest to the right .

Charles Arthur , host . Standing.

Kewaunee Lapsiritis. Did not make it .

(note work on picture taking skills.):p

It is my hope that one day this could be Washingtons States up an coming event each year .
Nick Redfern commented From the research done back in 1950 when the first alien encounter Adamski experienced.http://www.ufos-aliens.co.uk/cosmicadamski.html 12,000 people showed up when information was made available . Compared to the 80 that showed up at this event .

Adamski plays a role in Nick Redferns presentation as you will see coming up.

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Location the Truth Event was held at .

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fort_Worden

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Port_Townsend,_Washington

Lots of history Fort Worden and Port Townsend .

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Photos from the beginning of Nicholas Redferns presentation for his book

Final Events and the Secret Government Group on Demonic UFO's and the Afterlife.

The look on the hosts face is the same look I had when reviewing the book at the conference before Nick Refern explained it . lol

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Basically speaking, Final Events is a study of a think-tank group comprised of personnel from within the U.S. Government, military and intelligence community that has existed in stealth for a surprisingly long time. The group believes that while the UFO issue is a very real one, they do not believe it has anything to do with literal extraterrestrials.

Rather, the group – which calls itself the Collins Elite – concludes that the “aliens” are, in reality, literal demonic entities that are trying to seduce us with a false lure of supposed alien technology, and to – quite literally – steal and farm our souls. The group claim to have discovered evidence that these demonic entities – that seem to utilize a weird combination of advanced technology and archaic rite and ritual – derive a form of “energy sustenance” from the human soul or life force.

In other words, they don’t want to land on the White House lawn and help us, nor do they want to destroy us. Rather, they want to maintain the herd, and upon our physical deaths, extract the human life-force as sustenance. The Collins Elite believes this has been going on since the dawning of civilization and that the ET motif is the latest in a long line of deceptive images they have used, and that in the past have included gods, angels, Jinns, fairies, goblins, etc etc.

Information was provided from individuals who had first hand knowledge that part of the experiments to come to their conclusion were through occult practices an trying to reach
alien entities but when doing so the atmosphere in the rooms that these practices happened in would get heavy ,dark extremely uncomfortable to the point no one wanted to enter the rooms.

[Harley]

Welcome to Project Avalon, Erin!

It's always good to see someone new posting from 'home'!

This is cool that you decided to start posting on the UFO Truth Event, which was also held this past week-end in Port Townsend, WA.

Many people nowadays, and especially "The Youngsters" :), have either forgotten or are totally unaware that the "Roots" of Modern Ufology started right here in Washington State.

With the great speakers who attended, along with those that are scheduled for future events, I have little doubt that this will easily grow into a major event.

I very much look forward to seeing your updates on the news from 'home' here. And if you should ever need assistance with anything please let me know!

Thanks!

Harley

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http://smashedmedia.us/bruce/?p=272

Audio interview at website above.

In the Q&A at the event it did start to get a little heated in discussions about religion before Nick Redfern let everyone know he was sharing information not trying to influence opinions or beliefs about religion .

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At this point in the conference the audience had asked Nick Redfern even if this was possible how could a person have the physical marking some people have with abductions .

The only answer he could come up with was stigmata .

Nick Redfern also mentioned that Jack Parsons, L.Ron Hubbard,Kenneth Arnold an Ron Palmer
were occultists based on Aliester Crowleys works.

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The priest is in the Nicks book because after the scientists tried conjuring up Aliens with occult practices they believed they where involved with demons instead an needed the priest for guidance .

The back story on why supposedly there are so many aliens is the scientists believe
in 1918 Aliester Crowley opened another realm when he did his Amalantrah works conjuring LAM who is in the photo as well .

http://www.excludedmiddle.com/LAMstatement.html

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Peter Davenport was the 3rd speaker an reviewed the cases he thought were worth bringing up .
La Crosse Washington 1994
Bangor Sub base Washinton 1998
Elk Abduction Washington 1999


http://www.seattleweekly.com/2011-02-09/news/peter-davenport-believes-in-ufos/

Mr. Davenport mentioned at the conference the Fire Officers Guide to Disaster Control

Chapter 13 titled Enemy Attack an UFO potential .See below

FIRE OFFICER'S GUIDE TO DISASTER
CONTROL, by William M. Kramer & Charles W. Bahme. Published by Fire
Engineering Books a& Videos, Park 80 West, Plaza Two, 7th Floor,
Saddle Brook, NJ 07662.

SECOND EDITION. chapter 13,
is entitled "Enemy Attack and Ufo Potential." The Appendix contains a
bibliography supporting this chapter

Title 14, Section 1211, of the Code of Federal Regulations made it illegal for U.S. Citizens to have any contact with extraterrestrials or their vehicles. A co-author of the “Fire Officer’s Guide to Disaster Control” however wondered if it pertained only to astronauts, or to anyone that may have had a UFO encounter. Our government and particularly the U.S. Air Force have been telling you and I for years that UFOs do not exist. we just don’t know what they are, whom they belong to, or where they are from. A UFO is any object that can fly and is not identifiable.


The “Fire Officer’s Guide to Disaster Control,” Second Edition, (ISBN 0-912212-26-8) was published in 1992 and contains 641 pages. Two veteran Fire Officers, William M. Kramer, PhD and Charles W. Bahme, J.D, wrote it. It covers the full spectrum of disaster situations from natural events such as weather related disasters, to transportation, civil disorders and riots, hazardous materials to training, preparation and resource management.


Co-author Charles Bahme, apparently felt that UFOs should be included in the second edition of his Disaster Control Guide, due to his own experience and interest in the subject. Chapter 13 is a dual chapter entitled “Enemy Attack and UFO Potential,” which explains what war is (a man-made disaster), and lists causes of war, as well as examples of different disasters which can be caused by war when nuclear, biological and chemical attacks are used. Bahme’s interest in UFOs began on the morning of August 26, 1942,(Date wrong ) in what became known as the “The Los Angeles Air Raid of 1942,” when he witnessed the “fireworks” display. The Army had announced the approach of hostile aircraft and the city’s air raid warning system went into effect for the first time in World War II. Army forts along the coastline began pumping the first of 1433 rounds of artillery shells toward the intruders, utilizing searchlights to locate whatever it was they were firing at. 2 hours later the threat no longer existed, and the incident is still questioned today.


Note: The correct date of the LA Raid is February 25, 1942 (not August 26, 1942 as stated in the Guide), and it has become known as “the Battle of Los Angeles”.


Another reference made in the Guide by the author is the Orson Welles radio show “War of the Worlds,” broadcast in 1938, which demonstrated that even a drama can provoke disaster-like conditions and panic by certain individuals, which in a real invasion would require first line response by fire services. Some have attributed widespread blackouts, communication disruptions and other potential disasters such as the 1965 failure that blacked out New York and New England to UFO activity. Power failures associated with UFOs were also reported in Brazil from 1957-1959, in Rome, Italy in 1958, and in Mexico in 1965.


The Disaster Control Guide relies heavily on the research and experiences of co-author Charles Bahme in the area of UFOs and their potential. When the first edition was published in 1952, Bahme didn’t feel there was any significant concern about a UFO threat to our country. However in the 90’s he felt the military would not brush off the UFO potential as quickly. He felt to those individuals that had experienced unexplained aerial phenomena it was serious business.


Through his research, Chief Bahme briefly explains several facets of the UFO phenomenon. Chapter 13 of the Guide, includes UFO background information, what they might be, the classification system adopted by J. Allen Hynek, shapes and the history of UFOs. He also lists several of the well-known UFO Organizations such as: MUFON, NICAP, CAUS, GSW, CUFOS and APRO.


In another section he talks about the adverse potential of UFOs and specifically UFO hazards, force field impact, communications disruption, regional blackouts and the panic hazard. In the latter section, he refers to the fact that one of the reasons often given by the government for the tight security on findings is the need to prevent the possible panic that the truth might arouse. Lastly, after discussing several hazardous possibilities he describes physiological personal hazards referring to baking or sterilization of the soil where a UFO has landed. He mentions that while pursuing UFOs, military aircraft have disappeared in mid-air, exploded, and suffered harassment. Persons on the ground have sustained serious burns, paralysis, and force field radiated emissions, described like that of a “stun-gun.”


The Reference section at the end of Chapter 13 for the 15 pages containing the UFO potential information includes 72 references from the research Bahme has done. Appendix H in the back of the Guide lists 36 book titles on the subject of UFOs.

Above information minus the authors opinions where referenced from this site below .
I tried to locate a copy of the book from Scribd on line with no luck.
http://www.truthseekeratroswell.com/ed030103.html

[mojo]

Isn't this a little like the debate that Kerry and Bill had with Dr. Greer, except in reverse that all ET's are evil instead of all good? We've heard of the bad things done, but there is alot of information that promote many positive results. So therefore it seems more logical to believe even ET's have a freedom of choice.

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Mojo
I agree .
I believe so many anomalys are playing out that we may never know what the real back story is .

Like the post in response to your comment that took me a half hour to formulate an it disappeared when I hit the post quick reply.

[Harley]

Like the post in response to your comment that took me a half hour to formulate an it disappeared when I hit the post quick reply.

Erin,

Whenever that might occur, before you touch another thing hit the Back Arrow on your browser. Usually everything you just typed will still be in your buffer.

Harley

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Mr. Davenport also mentioned that the Space needle in Seattle was actually patterned after a flying saucer.

http://www.ehow.com/facts_5140066_seattle-space-needle.html
Story below was discussed coming form the newspaper the Tacoma Ledger from 1893

AN ELECTRIC MONSTER

Flashes of Light and Terrible Sounds Emitted by One in the Bay



A party of Tacoma gentlemen have good reason to remember the morning of the 2nd of July as long as life remains in their bodies--and to quote the exact words of one of the party, "There are denizens of the ocean that man never, in his most horrible and fantastic nightmare, even saw the likes of." On Saturday morning a party, composed of the following well known gentlemen, set sail on the sloop “Marion” from the boat house at the end of the wharf for a three days' fishing and hunting excursion on the Sound. The party consisted of Auctioneer William Fitzhenry, H. L. Beal, W. L. McDonald, J. K. Bell, Henry Blackwood, and two eastern gentlemen who are visiting the coast, and it is from the lips of one of these gentlemen, who declines to allow his name to be used, as he says that shortly before he left the east he took the Keeley cure, and he fears that if his name was used in connection with this article, his eastern friends might think he had “gone back” and got 'em again. The party were well supplied with all the necessaries of life, as well as an abundance of its luxuries, though it must not be inferred from this fact that the luxuries played any part in creating the sights seen on that memorable morning. Of course, as a person having much respect for truth, I merely chronicle the story as told me, and leave each reader of this remarkable yarn to judge for themselves the necessary amount of credence to give it. "We left Tacoma," said the eastern man, "about 4:30 p. m., Saturday, July 1st, and as the wind was from the southeast, we shaped our course for Point Defiance, intending to anchor off that point and try our luck with rod and line. We cast anchor about 6 o'clock, the wind having died out, and had fair success fishing. The wind coming up again pretty strong, Mr. McDonald suggested getting under way for Black Fish Bay, Henderson Island, as he knew of a fine trout stream running into the bay and also an excellent camping place near the fishing ground. So about 8 o'clock we weighed anchor and shaped our course for Black Fish Bay, which place we reached about 9:30. We landed and made everything snug about the boat and made a nice camp on shore, and as it was by this time 11 o'clock, we all turned in to get a little sleep as it was agreed upon that at the first streak of daylight we should all get up. About 100 yards from our camp was the camp of a surveying party, but as it was so late, we decided that we would not disturb them but that we would call upon them the following morning, and would probably get some valuable pointers as to the best places to fish and hunt on the island. After a few jokes had been cracked, the boys laid down and in a short time everything about camp became as still as death. It was, I guess, about midnight before I fell asleep, but exactly how long I slept, I cannot say, for when I woke, it was with such startling suddenness that it never entered my mind to look at my watch, and when after awhile I did look at my watch, as well as every watch belonging to the party, it was stopped.
“I am afraid, sir, that you will fail to comprehend how suddenly that camp was awoke. "Since the creation of the world, I doubt if sounds and sights more horrible were ever seen or heard by mortal man. I was in the midst of a pleasant dream when, in an instant, a most horrible noise rang out in the clear morning air, and instantly the whole air was filled with a strong current of electricity that caused every nerve in the body to sting with pain, and a light as bright as that created by the concentration of many arc lights kept constantly flashing. At first I thought it was a thunder storm, but as no rain accompanied it, and as both light and sound came from off the bay, l turned my head in that direction, and if it is possible for fright to turn one's hair white, then mine ought to be snow white, for right before my eyes was a most horrible looking monster.” By this time every man in our camp, as well as the men from the camp of the surveyors, were gathered on the bank of the stream, and as soon as we could gather our wits together we began to question if what we were looking at was not the creation of the mind, but we were soon disburdened of this idea, for the monster slowly drew in toward the shore, and as it approached, from its head poured out a stream of water that looked like blue fire. All the while the air seemed to be filled with electricity, and the sensation experienced was as if each man had on a suit of clothes formed of the fine points of needles . One of the men from the surveyor's camp incautiously took a few steps in the direction of the water, and as he did so the monster darted towards the shore and threw a stream of water that reached the man, and he instantly fell to the ground and lay as though dead. "Mr. McDonald attempted to reach the man's body to pull it back into a place of safety, but he was struck with some of the water that the monster was throwing and fell senseless to the earth. By this time every man in both parties was panic-stricken, and we rushed to the woods for a place of safety, leaving the fallen men lying on the beach. "As we reached the woods the 'demon of the deep’ sent out flashes of light that illuminated the surrounding country for miles, and his roar--which sounded like the roar of thunder--became terrific. When we reached the woods we looked around and saw the monster making off in the direction of the Sound, and in an instant, it disappeared beneath the waters of the bay, but for some time we were able to trace its course by a bright luminous light that was on the surface of the water. As the fish disappeared total darkness surrounded us, and it took us some time to find our way back to the beach where our comrades lay, and we were unable to tell the time, as the powerful electric force had stopped our watches. We eventually found McDonald and the other man and were greatly relieved to find that they were alive, though unconscious. So we sat down to await the coming of daylight. It came, I should judge, in about half an hour, and by this time, by constant work on the two men, both were able to stand, and both agree that the moment the water the monster threw touched them, they became immediately unconscious." On being asked to give some description of the fish, for it was, he said, "an electrical fish,” the eastern man said:
"This monster fish, or whatever you may call it, was fully 150 feet long, and at its thickest part I should judge about thirty feet in circumference. Its shape was somewhat out of the ordinary in so far that the body was neither round nor flat but oval, and from what we could see, the upper part of the body was covered with a very coarse hair. The head was shaped very much like the head of a walrus, though, of course, very much larger. Its eyes, of which it apparently had six, were as large around as a dinner plate and were exceedingly dull, and it was about the only spot on the monster that at one time or another was not illuminated. At intervals of about every eight feet from its head to its tail, a substance that had the appearance of a copper band encircled its body, and it was from these many bands that the powerful electric current appeared to come. The bands nearest the head seemed to have the strongest electric force, and it was from the first six bands that the most brilliant lights were emitted. Near the center of its head were two large horn-like substances, though they could not have been horns for it was through them that the electrically charged water was thrown (or appeared to be thrown)."Its tail, from what I could see of it, was shaped like a propeller and seemed to revolve, and it may be possible that the strange monster pushes himself through the water by means of this propeller like tail. "At will this strange monstrosity seemed to be able to emit strong waves of electric current, giving off an electro motive force which causes any person coming within the radius of this force to receive an electro tonus This fish probably receives its power from some submarine cavern of volcanic origin which owing to its peculiar construction, and having an extra large deposit of copper, it charges the fish that inhabit that region with a strong electric force that is displayed by this peculiar specimen. The peculiar shaped copper-like bands may be caused by the strong magnetic force of the fish and the copper deposits of the ocean, as the strong current would form the copper into a solution, whilst the strong attraction of the fish would naturally form an electric battery, drawing towards it this solution, thus forming deposits on the fish, so that in reality the electric fish is completely encompassed in copper, and its rapid movement through the water is constantly generating frictional electricity, which, I should judge, would in a measure account for the fish being so constantly and powerfully charged with electricity, though far from its original source of supply. One of the strange characteristics of this fish, and one by which it undoubtedly obtains its food, is its high electric control of dense and foggy atmosphere surrounding it, which amalgamates with the electrification of the fish, making a potential which causes any living creature, such as birds or insects, flying through the air to fall dead into the water. Of course, that is merely a theory, and I may be mistaken as to its origin or where it goes to, but one thing I do know, that I would not encounter the same monster again for the universe, and you can ask the rest of the party and you will find that they all agree with me, that to be within so short a distance of such a terrible monster and yet live to tell the story is something that only happens once in 1000 years. I hardly need to tell you that we were not long in getting under way for Tacoma, and I can assure you that I have no further desire to fish any more in the waters of this bay. There are too many peculiar inhabitants in them. I am going to send a full account of our encounter to the Smithsonian Institute, and I doubt not but what they will send out some scientific chaps to investigate. Now I must be going, as I have to leave on tonight's train, but if you need any further particulars you can obtain them from any of the party. No, I do not know who composed the survey party; all I know about them is that they are from Olympia and that they were on the island running farm lines on some disputed land.”

From :The Tacoma Daily Ledger of July 3, 1893, Tacoma, Washington.






The Tacoma News Tribune for August 14, 1960 has a drawing of the "sea monster" by Wayne Zimmerman.
See also :Carol J. Lind, "Tacoma's Sea Monster," Western Gothic. Seattle: C.J. Lind, 1983, p. 13-15.

[giovonni]

Thanks Erin,
You covered and reported this event very well, i'm truly impressed with your first thread ~ keep up the excellent work :thumb:

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Todd Sees

Abduction and death by E.T.

All evidence pointed towards an E.T. abduction for Todd Sees in the following attached article . What Peter Davenport said they failed to mention
was after the autopsy was done on the body the bodey of Todd Sees was returned to relatives in a steel coffin welded shut an relatives were warned not to try an gain access to the body .

Question is if the coffin is welded shut is Todd Sees body actually in the coffin ?

http://rense.com/general29/etab.htm

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Speaker added to April 30th Event

The time is fast approaching for the next Truth Event

Michael Cremo and Dr. Wayne Haley

HUMAN DEVOLUTION: A VEDIC ALTERNATIVE TO DARWIN'S THEORY a lecture by Michael Cremo
Join us in a fascinating intellectual excavation of a vast store of hidden knowledge and meet author Michael Cremo.

Mr. Michael Cremo will be talking about Human Devolution.
Michael Cremo is on the cutting edge of science and culture issues. In the course of a few month's time he might be found on pilgrimage to sacred sites in India, appearing on a national television show, lecturing at a mainstream science conference, or speaking to an alternative science gathering. As he crosses disciplinary and cultural boundaries, he presents to his various audiences a compelling case for negotiating a new consensus on the nature of reality
At Fort Worden State Park, in the JFK building.
PLUS...one more special guest

Dr. Wayne E. Haley, Ph.D. co-author with Sean David Morton of Black Seraph a novel of espionage and intrigue. Dr. Haley has top secret knowledge of government projects and he is just now “coming out of the closet” and telling what he knows. The subject of his talk is "What You don't know about the End of the Mayan Calendar, and what others are doing"
What you don't know about the End of the Mayan Calendar and what others are doing. Dr. Wayne Haley is going to talk about what the government may know about 2012 and what they are doing about it. Most people are unaware that on December 21, 2012 the Earth will line up with the Galactic Center, an event that happens once every 26,000 years. This lecture is about the secret side of what is going on behind the scenes that no one is telling the individual about. Why governments all over the world are building underground bases, and preparing for COG(continuation of Goverment) and preparing sites for what could happen. What can the average person do to protect themselves from what lies in the future? This lecture is about what IS going to happen, not "IF" it is going to happen.
Dr. Haley is a retired Administrator from the University of California system, who has also been a worldwide consultant to governments and fortune 500 companies for over 30 years. Heavy background in the intelligence community and military planning groups. His reports have been read by both the US Senate and House as well as the office of the President.
He is now ready to tell all.



What In The World Are They Spraying? Has been added to the beginning of the conference.

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Speaker added to August 27th 2011 Event

Andrew Basiago

Laura M. Eisenhower

Alfred L. Webre

Life on Mars will be the focus when Andy joins Alfred L. Webre and Laura M. Eisenhower at the Truth Event to be held in Port Townsend, WA on August 27, 2011.
After Andy spoke at the first Truth Event on November 20, 2010, he was hailed by Truth Event founder Charlie Arthur as "a rare and a great American" for bringing the truth about the US time-space exploration program to the American people.
Truth Event

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I have been doing some reading to get more information on Waco an the Branch Davidians an came across some interesting information that relates to Aliester Crowley an the Truth Event I attended a while ago . Since I had no other information about Alliester Crowley before the Truth Event I thought it might be a good Idea to post the info about him here since it is relative to the article above .

Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn

England's leading occult society around the turn of the last century,
The Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn was founded by three
Freemason's, Dr. William Robert Woodman(1828-1691), Dr. William
Wynn. Westcott(1848-1925) who was also active in Theosophy-and
Samuel Liddell Mathers(1854-1918).
Organized on a lodge basis with three degrees of membership the
order incorporated the full gamut of Masonic and neo_Rosicrucian
mysticism. Its practices,which included spell casting,tarot,yoga
,astrology, and channeling,were inspired by Qabalah(the Q distinguishes
occult from Jewish Kabbalah), Hermeticism,alchemy,grimoires(Magic
texts)like the thirteenth-century Sefer Raziel HaMalakh, and the Enochian
magic of John Dee (1527-1609).

*Spells and invocations written in the
Angelick, or Enochian,language that was used by Adam to communicate
with God before the Fall and that were channeled to Dee by the medium
Edward Kelley(1555-1597). Methuselah's father,Enoch,was said to be the
only mortal besides Adam to speak it.

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Famous Members of the group included the poet William Butler Yeats
(1865-1939),Maud Gonnhe(1866-1953), andArthur Machen(1863-1947).
The Order of the Golden Dawn was also where Aleister Crowley(1875-1947)
got his start. His parents named him Edward Alexander and raised him in
the conservative, evangelical Plymouth Brethren Church. Crowley later
wrote that his mother called him The Beast because of his scandalous
irreverence: as an adult he assiduously cultivated his reputation as "the
wickedest man in the world."
Crowley left the Golden Dawn at odds with virtually all its members; he
went on to develop his own philosophic system, which he called Thelema,
after the abbey in Rabelais's Gargantua et Pantagruel. Motto was "Do what
thou wilt"-an exhortation that became a positive commandment in Crowley's
The Book of the Law, a collection of aphorisms he channeled in 1904, in
which he declared,"Do what thou wilt is the whole of the law." Crowley wasn't
just issuing an invitation to hedonism,though he didn't preclude it. In his
commentaries and later books, he elaborated on his notion of "True Will" as
the fulfillment of one's ultimate,highest nature. "True will should spring,a
fountain of Light,from within,and flow unchecked,seething with Love,into the
Ocean of Life,"he wrote in Little Essays Towards Truth(1938). As with the
left-handed Tantra,Thelemic practices include meditation and yoga and
mindfulness,but they also extended to liberatory sexual transgressions(including
rape) and consciousness-altering drugs. Crowley,who published the novel
Diary of a Drug Fiend in 1922,was a heroin addict, a practicing bisexual, and
an adept at sex magick(the k is used to distinguish authentic ritual magic from
mere stage trickery). After he left the Golden Dawn, Crowley would become
deeply involved with two lodge societies, the A..A..,alsoknown as the Silver
Star and the Arcanum Arcanorum and Ordo Templi Orientis, or OTO(Order
of the Oriental Templars). OTO had been founded as an "Academia Masonica"
by the Austrian chemist and high-degree Mason Carl Kellner (1851-1905)
and the German neo-Illuminatus Theodor Reuss(1855-1923),but Crowley remade
it in his own image when he took it over,starting around 1912. OTO manifesto
(written by Crowley) modestly describes its mission:

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The aim of the O.T.O. can only be understood fully by its highest initiates;
but it may be said openly that it teaches Hermetic Sience or Occult Knowledge,
the Pure and Holy Magick of Light, the Secrets of Mystic attainment,Yoga of
all forms, Gnana Yoga, Raja Yoga, Bhakta Yoga and Hatha Yoga, and all
other branches of the secret Wisdom of the Ancients...{I}ts brain has resolved
all the problems of philosophy and of life... Moreover,it possesses a Secret
capable of realizing the world-old dream of the Brotherhood of Man .

OTO did not survive World War 2 as an international organization; by 1946,
only one lodge remained. Conspiracists who believe that the Illuminati control
the U.S. space program take pointed notice of the fact that OTO"S Agape' Lodge
2, which was located in Pasadena, California,was headed for a time by Jack Parsons
(1914-1952), one of the founders of the Jet Propulsion Laboratory at the California
Institute of Technology. ( Parsons and Scientology founder L.Ron Hubbard were
"frenemies" for a time in the 1940's(Hubbard's second wife was Parson's ex mistress)
arguments about succession and legitimacy,OTO has since been revived.
Crowley's Gnostic Mass is celebrated at forty -five lodges in twenty-five states in
America;there are also lodges in England and Australia.

[Cidersomerset]

Well done Hybrid5226 ....Like you I'm new to posting and as a pure 'Somerset Yokal' and proud of it !! I tend to write as I speak , and get thoroughly carried away in my own little world and humour...LOL

see you probably thought what is he laughing at..LOL....Anyway I'l read thru your post later as I'm interrested if UFO's etc......I 'm not very IT literate and my next goal is to learn how to link vids etc..

Though I can cut and paste , but not edit...and my typng speed is just bit better than a snail, but the mainthing is we are all aboard and set for an adventure.....Cheers Steve

[Cjay]

Like the post in response to your comment that took me a half hour to formulate an it disappeared when I hit the post quick reply.

Erin,

Whenever that might occur, before you touch another thing hit the Back Arrow on your browser. Usually everything you just typed will still be in your buffer.

Harley

Not always. I have lost long posts before due to a couple of different reasons, so I now highlight the whole post and copy it from time to time, just as a precaution, so if I do lose it, I can paste it back in. This has saved me a lot of re-typing.

Very interesting thread Erin. Thanks for sharing.