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irishspirit
28th February 2011, 17:10
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TnIHKI06k2k&feature=player_embedded#at=14
slvrfx
28th February 2011, 17:37
Graham Hancock and Laurence Gardner wrote a lot about this from a scientific/genealogical/ancient history aspect. Check out bibliographies in the back of books for a endless source of information.
Thank you for posting this.
I sure hope people take the time to watch this. It's a good starting point.
According to Gardner, the One God of the Hebrews was Enlil. Important to differentiate from Enki, who went against Enlil and manipulated the human genome.
(I've researched this for 8 years and have been in contact with one significant author and researcher for a few years. Some of what is in this video is dis-information.)
Steph
28th February 2011, 18:16
@ Irish; Thanks for that, very good, just about to view the next video :)
@ Slvrfx; Further reading from one of Graham Hancock's contemporaries is "The Ashes of Angels" by Andrew Collins. Funnily enough I just posted about it in another thread on the Annunaki earlier, well worth a read :)
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?4010-Is-this-Anunnaki-language&p=159489#post159489
Mouse x
blake
28th February 2011, 21:37
Graham Hancock and Laurence Gardner wrote a lot about this from a scientific/genealogical/ancient history aspect. Check out bibliographies in the back of books for a endless source of information.
Thank you for posting this.
I sure hope people take the time to watch this. It's a good starting point.
According to Gardner, the One God of the Hebrews was Enlil. Important to differentiate from Enki, who went against Enlil and manipulated the human genome.
(I've researched this for 8 years and have been in contact with one significant author and researcher for a few years. Some of what is in this video is dis-information.)
Hello slvfx,
Would you please point out which of the material in this video is disinformation?
Sincerely,
Mr. Davis
2/28/11
RedeZra
28th February 2011, 22:17
this is just another clip trying to twist the truth about our origins
the human race is not a slave race !
the PTB wants us to believe that but it's not true
read the translated texts of the sumerian clay tablets yourselves and don't let agents with an agenda interpret and present them for you
read Enoch and Enuma Elish and more but read them yourselves !
---
not referring to you Irish as an agent but the makers of the clip ; )
eaglespirit
28th February 2011, 22:33
I've posted these links elsewhere here today...but they seem to be extremely relevant about everywhere.
They are fairly short reads...so the points of clarity are delivered rather expediently.
...
The Elf Transmissions
http://www.bbsradio.com/files_byothers/ELF_Transmissions_061707.pdf
The Terra Papers
http://www.scribd.com/doc/16267603/The-Terra-Papers-by-Robert-Morning-Sky
The Spiritual Significance of UFO's
http://www.llresearch.org/speeches/speech_1981_0421.aspx
kersley
28th February 2011, 22:35
who were the beings created by the Annunaki? my understanding is that they created the black headed people, the Sumerians. is this not true?
Ahkenaten
28th February 2011, 22:50
As I have noted elswhere on this forum, although Sitchen is to be commended for bringing attention of a wider audience to Sumerian Culture and its mysteries, there have been legitimate questions about his scholarship. This is why his books are located in the FICTION section of bookstores, they are creative elaborations. If you want to go to the source I recommend that you read translations from the cuneiform tablets by noted scholar Noah Kramer. As far as I know he was the most respected Sumerian Scholar in the US (University of Chicago) and his translations continue to be widely respected and relied upon by those interested in achieving a deeper understanding of that ancient race who lived in EDEN.
write4change
28th February 2011, 22:58
Well this is typical of the big problem. Who really can read Sumerian and translate? And why would I give such credence to the University of Chicago when its culpability to corruption and the big lied is well known?
Why is Sitchen fiction when he first was considered the world expert in reading that language?
The older I get the more paradoxic life becomes.
RedeZra
28th February 2011, 23:01
the cultures in Mesopotamia share a devastating flood story in a quite recent past
therefore there is bound to be some fantasy in their attempts to explain things like creation and the pre-flood civilization
Ahkenaten
28th February 2011, 23:04
I was not attacking Zechariah Sitchin. I was a correspondent of his and in fact admired him very much. Even Sitchin would admit that his works were primarily fiction, otherwise he would have published them under another category of literature. I am talking about scholarship here and objective standards for such. While admittedly every source is suspect being corruptible, I would respectfully suggest that you do an exhaustive investigation into this particular subject (scholarship and translations from ancient Sumerian into English) and I believe my assertions will be corroborated by various other sources. While few, unfortunately, have the skills to read and translate from the originals, the closest we can get is going to the most highly esteemed scholars in their respective fields.
RedeZra - with respect to creation "fantasies" etc. unfortunately we are so far removed from Sumeria that even if we were to completely crack the code (same situation prevails with Egyptian hieroglyphs) the very values and meanings that underpin our language are so radically different from theirs that all we can hope to do is resonate a little to what their reality MIGHT have been like. And probably even THAT is pushing it.
K626
28th February 2011, 23:09
Well this is typical of the big problem. Who really can read Sumerian and translate? And why would I give such credence to the University of Chicago when its culpability to corruption and the big lied is well known?
Why is Sitchen fiction when he first was considered the world expert in reading that language?
The older I get the more paradoxic life becomes.
Just made up a lot of **** based on little veracity. Thought this was clear. Fascinating read though.
'Anu' basically means spirit guide (in Egypt through the underworld and so on..) Spritual beings of sorts maybe other dimensional. But not big tall fellas predisposed to a bit of genetic tinkering..No not really.
At worse it's top down erasure and manipulation of our past and the negative energies that carries (perhaps sponsored) at best...A likeable chap with a good turn of phrase and a marvelous storyteller.
cheers
K
kersley
28th February 2011, 23:15
Well is has been proven that Sitchin is a fraud. There are no ancient tablets saying the Annunaki ever came here. you can visit the website called. SITCHIN IS WRONG.
Also all the tablets are available online for your own research. Sitchin wasted 10 years of my life with his fiction books. I can't say i miss him. R.I.P Mr Sitchin
Ahkenaten
28th February 2011, 23:23
Mr. Kersley that is pretty uncharitable of you. Sitchin's works did provide many years of enjoyment for many people and perhaps more importantly for any who developed serious interests in the subject matter, prompted them to further research and analysis. It is not good to "speak ill of the dead." As for the word ANU, it is very interesting indeed and perhaps provides a clue connecting Egypt with Sumeria (perhaps a shared common culture as an antecedent?) ------ AN - ANU - ANUBIS (loyal protector and god-guide of dead souls through the underworld, or Duat, into the spirit world). As interesting the idea the word AN (ANU)in the ancient Sanskrit means, roughly, as I understand it "Atom" or atomic particle. One could spend many lifetimes studying all of this fascinating subject matter. Zechariah Sitchin showed the way to those who are really interested.
slvrfx
28th February 2011, 23:29
Sitchen was the most recent of the notable people who wrote books on the Sumerian texts. There were others writing about the translations years before him.
Keep in mind also, that there are different takes on the interpretations of not only the Sumerian texts, but also other ancient texts. (Different cultures, different beliefs, different names of individuals and of places.)
I'm rereading one of Laurence Gardner's books right now, and my head fairly spins with all of his excellent references to other texts.
What I like about his writing is that even though it's authoritative, he also is very honest about saying it's open to interpretation.
What I didn't like about the video this thread is about, is that everything was presented as fact, when it's not.
It has some things that are right on, but others that are way off, so it's very confusing.
My sources say that the royal family in England are not of this particular bloodline, but have usurped the thrown, much as Napoleon was not of this line, but married a woman who was.
The families of the true ET/human bloodline have been basically in hiding, and are highly unlikely to be sitting on any throne. They have been hunted down and killed to the point where they have changed their names and have gone as far as separating husbands/wives/children, in order to be safe. (Consider what happened to the Knights Templar whose job it was to protect these people.)
My first recommendation is that you do your own research. Yes, watch videos, but keep an open and analytical mind.
Secondly, I believe it's very important to read books, like Laurence Gardner who was a genealogist for more then 30 of these families, and knows the ancient bloodline charts these people have.
Then you have to sort through the fallacies, for instance, question whether this bloodline that started with A.dom continued through his and Eve's son, Seth, or through her son, Cain (whose father was most likely Enki).
Another thorn in the side to deal with is whether Issac's son Jacob was the carrier of the bloodline, or was it really Esau, who supposedly sold his birthright for a bowl of porridge.
Consider also that this bloodline is passed through the women.
Question whether the compilers of the Old Testament had an agenda that pictured them to be God's chosen people, under One God, who was Enlil, in contrast to the multiple gods with Enki.
This is so complex, it can not be answered easily.
K626
28th February 2011, 23:33
Mr. Kersley that is pretty uncharitable of you. Sitchin's works did provide many years of enjoyment for many people and perhaps more importantly for any who developed serious interests in the subject matter, prompted them to further research and analysis. It is not good to "speak ill of the dead." As for the word ANU, it is very interesting indeed and perhaps provides a clue connecting Egypt with Sumeria (perhaps a shared common culture as an antecedent?) ------ AN - ANU - ANUBIS (loyal protector and god-guide of dead souls through the underworld, or Duat, into the spirit world). As interesting the idea that word in the ancient Sanskrit means, roughly, as I understand it "Atom" or atomic particle. One could spend many lifetimes studying all of this fascinating subject matter. Zechariah Sitchin showed the way to those who are really interested.
As I said earlier, passed onto Egypt...as a guide and protector through the underworld. Spirit being or force. Take your point reg the sanskrit (god particle and so on).
.......and as we know a lot of the Egyptian mythology was freshly stolen by Christianity.
Think it is really improtant that when people fiddle with out past it is a form of supression, not only of truth, but our ability to build a solid foundation for the future.
Good post.
cheers
K
Ahkenaten
28th February 2011, 23:36
There may well be a secret in the blood (i.e. "Blueblood") the RH factor, specifically, the lack of it. Also of interest is the so-called "inert" DNA material in our cells. Since when does nature include something that has no purpose? We just do not know what the purpose is, at least most of us, anyway. And then there are the "black" areas of the Human Genome Project, where it is rumored some pretty anomalous discoveries have been made, however unless you are a scientist inside the project, there is no way of ascertaining what that might be. AN-ANU-ANNUNAKI-ANUKIS-ANUBIS-ATOM..........it is all very interesting indeed.
K626
28th February 2011, 23:37
There may well be a secret in the blood (i.e. "Blueblood") the RH factor, specifically, the lack of it. Also of interest is the so-called "inert" DNA material in our cells. Since when does nature include something that has no purpose? We just do not know what the purpose is, at least most of us, anyway. And then there are the "black" areas of the Human Genome Project, where it is rumored some pretty anomalous discoveries have been made, however unless you are a scientist inside the project, there is no way of ascertaining what that might be. AN-ANU-ANNUNAKI-ANUBIS-ATOM..........it is all very interesting indeed.
Delta32 mutation is a candidate.
See black plague and aids.
The project is onging.
cheers
K
K626
28th February 2011, 23:44
Only light energy can cause the mutations and transcribe over resident dna. It is also clear dna talks back.
The project is ongoing.
The planet will overcome.
We are not alone.
peace
K
RedeZra
28th February 2011, 23:47
The families of the true ET/human bloodline have been basically in hiding, and are highly unlikely to be sitting on any throne.
there seems to have been an antediluvian hybrid race which gene pool survived the flood
Enoch speaks about a group of angels - not aliens - cohabitating with women and producing giant offsprings
there were giants in the Levant after the flood so the gene pool must have survived
Ahkenaten
28th February 2011, 23:48
Yes I hear you loud and clear K626. Only LIGHT.....................
K626
28th February 2011, 23:49
Yes I hear you loud and clear K626. Only LIGHT.....................
Peace to you my brother in your passing.
K
K626
28th February 2011, 23:54
Couple of books people might want to check that are equally 'fun', but thought provoking are:
Gods of the New Millenium - Alan Alford.
The Codex- Douglas Preston
cheers
K
Ahkenaten
28th February 2011, 23:58
Also for those interested:
The Hermetic Code in DNA by Michael Hayes
The Sirius Mystery by Robert Temple
kersley
28th February 2011, 23:59
Couple of books people might want to check that are equally 'fun', but thought provoking are:
Gods of the New Millenium - Alan Alford.
The Codex- Douglas Preston
cheers
K
Aland Alford retracted everything he wrote about. Why is the question.
K626
1st March 2011, 00:00
Also for those interested:
The Hermetic Code in DNA by Michael Hayes
The Sirius Mystery by Robert Temple
That's a must read.
K
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Couple of books people might want to check that are equally 'fun', but thought provoking are:
Gods of the New Millenium - Alan Alford.
The Codex- Douglas Preston
cheers
K
Aland Alford retracted everything he wrote about. Why is the question.
Yes interesting that.
K
Ahkenaten
1st March 2011, 00:08
Concerning Robert Temple I think it is very telling that he was threatened for writing his book Sirius Mystery. Of particular concern to the usual suspects seemed to be his interests in certain special perhaps "hybrid" aspects to humans and his delving into the ancient, ancient history of the race.............and this kind of ties together the whole subject of the true nature and history of the human species (still to be revealed, and kept from most for thousands of years) and some of the otherwise inexplicable things going on in the world today. The subject of human BLOOD - albeit "Annunaki" or our true blood (genetic) nature is one of the most mysterious, important, and highly explosive secrets of all.
The admonition that we should, above all else "KNOW THYSELF" continues to be true. And it is towards that goal that we should dedicate all of our efforts and hearts at all levels.
RedeZra
1st March 2011, 00:14
Couple of books people might want to check that are equally 'fun', but thought provoking are:
Gods of the New Millenium - Alan Alford.
The Codex- Douglas Preston
cheers
K
Aland Alford retracted everything he wrote about. Why is the question.
http://www.eridu.co.uk/Author/author.html
One of the most notable features of Alan Alford’s quest has been his willingness to challenge his own preconceptions, as well as those of others. In 1998, he stunned readers of his first book ‘Gods of the New Millennium’ by issuing a retraction of his ‘flesh and blood gods’ theory in his sequel ‘The Phoenix Solution’, in which he argued that the Egyptian gods personified the cataclysmic powers of creation. Alford’s arguments were indeed so powerful that Zecharia Sitchin, the world’s leading ancient astronaut theorist, threatened him with a 50 million dollar lawsuit on the grounds that his comments discredited his (Sitchin’s) theories and destroyed his reputation.
In these books, Alford argues that ancient religions were ‘cults of creation’ – i.e. cults whose primary aim was to celebrate and re-enact perpetually the myth of the creation of the Universe – and that the gods personified the cataclysmic powers of creation. And he demonstrates, beyond any doubt, that these ancient religions transmitted a profound legacy of creational and cataclysmic thought to modern-day Judaism and Christianity.
http://www.eridu.co.uk/Author/author.html
Ahkenaten
1st March 2011, 00:22
Interesting to note RedeZra in the material above concerning Alford that Mr. Sitchin was referred to as "the world's leading ancient astronaut theorist"....................(I am sure Von Dannekin would take exception to that!)...........NOT SUMERIAN SCHOLAR. There IS a difference between the two!
Also I did not know that Sitchin had threatened Alford with a massive lawsuit! Pretty ballsy of him! Probably that is why Alford withdrew his assertions? 50 Million is a lot of money. Hmmmm......will have to look into this particular matter further.
RedeZra
1st March 2011, 00:31
Interesting to note RedeZra in the material above concerning Alford that Mr. Sitchin was referred to as "the world's leading ancient astronaut theorist"....................(I am sure Von Dannekin would take exception to that!)...........NOT SUMERIAN SCHOLAR. There IS a difference between the two!
Indeed it is Ahkenaten and I must say I'm looking forward to the day when we can bury this alien ancient astronaut agenda ; )
modwiz
1st March 2011, 00:32
One of the most notable features of Alan Alford’s quest has been his willingness to challenge his own preconceptions, as well as those of others. In 1998, he stunned readers of his first book ‘Gods of the New Millennium’ by issuing a retraction of his ‘flesh and blood gods’ theory in his sequel ‘The Phoenix Solution’, in which he argued that the Egyptian gods personified the cataclysmic powers of creation. Alford’s arguments were indeed so powerful that Zecharia Sitchin, the world’s leading ancient astronaut theorist, threatened him with a 50 million dollar lawsuit on the grounds that his comments discredited his (Sitchin’s) theories and destroyed his reputation.
Curious. Just that.
Ahkenaten
1st March 2011, 00:47
RedeZra - I agree about doing away with the alien ancient astronaut agenda. I suspect personally it is an elaborate cover for something entirely different that is not extraterrestrial at all. BUT................on the other hand, to be provocative- if you take into consideration the Panspermia theory of Crick as I understand it, and would permit the extension of the definition of "alien/extraterrestrial" to genetic material entering our solar system/planet from elsewhere and then influencing the development of life on earth, well, "extraterrestrial intervention" is back on the table, isn't it?
modwiz
1st March 2011, 00:56
I am enjoying your well thought out and informed input here, Ahkenaten.
Ahkenaten
1st March 2011, 01:09
RE: "offers that can't be refused" I am sure that is the case more than we would like to admit. "Our own Wade Fraser" - well he might be yours or others but that doesn't necessarily include me.
My opinion on the flesh and blood nature of the gods in human mythos is still under development. It would appear however that there is some basis for asserting that at some point in history, real events on earth gave rise to the world-wide stories that have so much in common. (see Hamlet's Mill by De Santillana and Von Deschend) however inasmuch as ALL is energy existing at various levels, that is NOT to rule out the reality or intervention of "Spirit" or the "God Particle."
DeDukshyn
1st March 2011, 03:27
The primates on this planet had a capacity for love, reptiles didn't make the cut because of their lack of the ability to express that high frequency quality. They got upset about that I think and have been trying to sabatoge the project, perhaps this is where the myths of humans as a "slave race" came from- I have heard from more more sources than here - all varied. This is just my opinion and in the big picture it's not that important. We are Starseed and that is all that matters.
write4change
1st March 2011, 03:39
I actually fell into a trance for four hours after reading all this. First, I was anxious to tell and then I read the rest of this thread and decided to sit on it awhile.
I have one question I read the Enki chronicles. It was quite a while ago. It was not in Stichin's book. Is there a translation on line that is not his and that is available and I will compare what I remember and then I may tell what I think.
I am French. My mother's people came to the US in the 1600s. The family story was that ancestor was the 5th son of the Duke of Normandy and there was no place for him in the way things were inherited. He came here and became a trader and trapper. Really got into the Indian ways and sort of went native. His son built the family home in 1669. There was a family bible that was highly guarded but I was too young to be allowed to touch it when I saw it and neither I nor my mother inherited it. So I never got to read the always arguable family secrets.
My father's family was second generation French immigrants from Marseille and my mother's family loathed them. I had many aunts that would not speak English. My father's family all had blue eyes but dark hair.
My grandmother was a redhead and my mother blonde. I was a redhead. My grandmother was Rh negative as was my mother and so am I. My grandmother had 5 children die from what was called then Blue Babies and I am not sure even when I was born if they understood the Rh negative factor. My mother survived because she was Rh negative and my grand mother spoiled her rotten. Five years later, my grandmother had a son who may not have been as beloved but was the heir. Everyone in the family on both sides was obsessed with blue eyes.
As I grew older and somewhat educated I hit college just when DNA was discovered. I decided that my family was a mess from inbreeding. So when I married a Sicilian Italian with brown eyes--my grandmother still loved me but she did growl Now your children will be mongrols. LOL From that moment, it was known that I would not inherit what was passed down from Mother to daughter but it would go to my cousin. Interesting she messed her life up even worse and by that time people had stopped discussing all this. So I have no idea what is the truth of my own family and who really carried what because there was always some scandal about the Indians.
I have always thought all this was just ignorance but over the years there has been a lot of strange stuff.
Darla Ken Pearce
1st March 2011, 04:25
This video is interesting in that it names, Poseidan as one of them. During the time of Atlantis, Poseidan was the good and angelic side of what went wrong. If he is considered Annunaki ~ he was not any part of the bad element who altered our DNA, so there must have been an offshoot of a larger pool. So, I'm confused a bit by his goodness and their darkness. In any event the blood factor is very interesting. The DNA specialists are so far off as not to touch ground with their "junk" DNA verdict.
Due to our rising consciousness and higher vibration, we are able to repair our DNA. At the time we came to earth, we had 12 strands which annunaki altered down to only 2 of the 12 at the time that Atlantis fell and was no more. We have already been successful in retreiving the other 10 but they scientists do not know enough to recognize these changes nor what they mean. If you want to get all your DNA strands back, listen to higher frequencies that repair and activate DNA healing and restoration. Anyone can do this ~ I await the day when these scientists get a clue ; ) xoxox
Lord Sidious
1st March 2011, 04:33
The assumption here is that there was only one extra terrestrial group messing with dna splicing.
kersley
1st March 2011, 10:52
The conclusion of Alford is very plausible.
Man existed as a subterranean species, The Anunnaki came who enslaved man until kingship were handed down and man came to the surface. The idea the Anunnaki came here and created us as a slave species is BS
Lord Sidious
1st March 2011, 10:56
The conclusion of Alford is very plausible.
Man existed as a subterranean species, The Anunnaki came who enslaved man until kingship were handed down and man came to the surface. The idea the Anunnaki came here and created us as a slave species is BS
This is your opinion.
As none of us where there, or met any eyewitnesses to the event, it is all conjecture.
It is good to remember these things.
kersley
1st March 2011, 10:58
The assumption here is that there was only one extra terrestrial group messing with dna splicing.
It would seem that way. The group (Anunnaki if that is what you choose to call them) beam light and earth became their territory. They didn't want the people of earth to know what took place.
They presented themselves as our God.
Lord Sidious
1st March 2011, 11:02
The assumption here is that there was only one extra terrestrial group messing with dna splicing.
It would seem that way. The group (Anunnaki if that is what you choose to call them) beam light and earth became their territory. They didn't want the people of earth to know what took place.
They presented themselves as our God.
It may seem that way to some, it doesn't appear that way to me.
I can see 3 different groups on the planet right now that could be descended from different alien groups.
kersley
1st March 2011, 11:54
[QUOTE=Lord Sidious;160219]The assumption here is that there was only one extra terrestrial group messing with dna splicing.
It may seem that way to some, it doesn't appear that way to me.
I can see 3 different groups on the planet right now that could be descended from different alien groups.
Would you care to share? who are these 3 groups? Do you actually see these 3 groups?
Lord Sidious
1st March 2011, 13:17
[QUOTE=Lord Sidious;160219]The assumption here is that there was only one extra terrestrial group messing with dna splicing.
It may seem that way to some, it doesn't appear that way to me.
I can see 3 different groups on the planet right now that could be descended from different alien groups.
Would you care to share? who are these 3 groups? Do you actually see these 3 groups?
Aha, I failed to explain correctly.
The three groups I speak of are the european, the asian and the african.
The european is a descendant of the Aryan, the others I am not sure of.
How the south americans and other fit in I am not sure, but that is why I said at least three.
kersley
1st March 2011, 15:39
@Lord Sidious
What you;re saying is that white people are descendants of the Aryan ET's? Black people, Indians, Chinese, Mexican and the rest are NOT like you?
How do you know this ? have you meet your ancestors that told you this? you know this to be fact?
K626
1st March 2011, 15:48
Most of the real history of this planet is a black history. It has been deliberately falsifyied and hidden and broken up into pieces to accommodate crimes such as the slave trade and forced labour.
Ahkenaten
1st March 2011, 15:52
Hi K626 - I wonder if you might be more specific concerning what you said yesterday about Chromosome 32, AIDS and the Black Plague. Are you speaking of mutations on the chromosome seemingly dating to the period of the Plague that are protective against it and also, perhaps, protective against AIDS or something more than that?
K626
1st March 2011, 16:03
Hi K626 - I wonder if you might be more specific concerning what you said yesterday about Chromosome 32, AIDS and the Black Plague. Are you speaking of mutations on the chromosome seemingly dating to the period of the Plague that are protective against it and also, perhaps, protective against AIDS or something more than that?
"O'Brien assembled an international team of scientists to test for the presence of delta 32 around the world. "Native Africans did not have delta 32 at all," O'Brien says, "and when we looked at East Asians and Indians, they were also flat zero." In fact, the levels of delta 32 found in Eyam were only matched in regions of Europe that had been affected by the plague and in America, which was, for the most part, settled by European plague survivors and their descendents.
Think about that first.
cheers
K
Further reading.
http://www.thetech.org/genetics/ask.php?id=111
Steph
1st March 2011, 16:36
The families of the true ET/human bloodline have been basically in hiding, and are highly unlikely to be sitting on any throne.
there seems to have been an antediluvian hybrid race which gene pool survived the flood
Enoch speaks about a group of angels - not aliens - cohabitating with women and producing giant offsprings
there were giants in the Levant after the flood so the gene pool must have survived
And here lies the problem... The Book of Enoch is thought (by some scholars) to have been put together in stages during the first half of the second century BC. It seems to me that the ancients of that time would have no concept of ufo's or space/air craft as we do today - thanks to the Wright Brothers. With that in mind, it would be easy to see how the ancients would interpret alien visitors as angels. Of course, this is just conjecture on my part. According to Judaeo-Christian tradition, angels have no form or substance, they are incorporeal, that is, no body to speak of, and so how is it possible for them to reproduce? Were the sons of god angels or another race entirely?
Thank you to Akhenaten and Slvrfx for the suggested reading material, I'm busily noting authors for future reading :)
Mouse x
Steph
1st March 2011, 16:53
Hi K626 - I wonder if you might be more specific concerning what you said yesterday about Chromosome 32, AIDS and the Black Plague. Are you speaking of mutations on the chromosome seemingly dating to the period of the Plague that are protective against it and also, perhaps, protective against AIDS or something more than that?
"O'Brien assembled an international team of scientists to test for the presence of delta 32 around the world. "Native Africans did not have delta 32 at all," O'Brien says, "and when we looked at East Asians and Indians, they were also flat zero." In fact, the levels of delta 32 found in Eyam were only matched in regions of Europe that had been affected by the plague and in America, which was, for the most part, settled by European plague survivors and their descendents.
Think about that first.
cheers
K
Further reading.
http://www.thetech.org/genetics/ask.php?id=111
Did I miss something here? I quickly skimmed the entire thread and cannot see anything pertaining to the above in this thread? I've had a bad day, perhaps it's just me misunderstanding :confused:
Sorry for double posting, I wanted to edit my last post but couldn't work out how to quote from the edit box.
Mouse x
Lord Sidious
1st March 2011, 17:11
@Lord Sidious
What you;re saying is that white people are descendants of the Aryan ET's? Black people, Indians, Chinese, Mexican and the rest are NOT like you?
How do you know this ? have you meet your ancestors that told you this? you know this to be fact?
I don't recall saying this is fact.
As I said to you before, we weren't there, so we don't know, this is my opinion.
From what I can see, there are differences in the different groups on this planet.
Africans have 2 blood groups that Whites don't, for example.
And a lot of the different groups have legends of being descended from star beings and the like.
OnyxKnight
1st March 2011, 17:38
The assumption here is that there was only one extra terrestrial group messing with dna splicing.
Yes, although a very wrong assumption. 19 in the ancient times. 2 more joined during the close past, and 2 more in present times.
slvrfx
1st March 2011, 17:40
The assumption here is that there was only one extra terrestrial group messing with dna splicing.
Yes, although a very wrong assumption. 19 in the ancient times. 2 more joined during the close past, and 2 more in present times.
Please elaborate? Site sources and references?
Too many uneducated/channeled sources out there for my liking.
Not saying that yours is. Just saying I want something substantial.
Ahkenaten
1st March 2011, 17:45
OK K626 any more delta 32 info? I did some reading last night on the human genome project website which was very informative..............but I have had the feeling for some time that an enormous amount of information is not publicly available. I had heard some pretty woo-woo stuff, for example, from other sources - specifically that the genome project discovered that humans and dolphins are related. I have not been able to verify that anywhere. Anyway, any info/links you may have would be very much appreciated, thanks! Ahk
Lord Sidious
1st March 2011, 17:46
The assumption here is that there was only one extra terrestrial group messing with dna splicing.
Yes, although a very wrong assumption. 19 in the ancient times. 2 more joined during the close past, and 2 more in present times.
Tell us more nugget.
OnyxKnight
1st March 2011, 17:50
Please elaborate? Site sources and references?
Too many uneducated/channeled sources out there for my liking.
Not saying that yours is. Just saying I want something substantial.
This information was given to me personally, not taken from any website.
I know Alex Collier and Steward Swerdlow agree that around 21/22 races had played a part in our creation. Based on information given to them from their own sources. You can find that in their material. I think even David Wilcock's 'Ra Material' speaks of something similar.
I don't recall saying this is fact.
As I said to you before, we weren't there, so we don't know, this is my opinion.
From what I can see, there are differences in the different groups on this planet.
Africans have 2 blood groups that Whites don't, for example.
And a lot of the different groups have legends of being descended from star beings and the like.
We are still so heavily mixed, you can't really look at humans being that different.
I don't know this Aryan ET race, I do know of a few Pleiadian nations, those in Alpha Centauri and Ummo who are "White" or with "European features". Although I don't see the elongated fingers, larger cranium and eye sockets here. Meaning, those features are lost because of other genes from other Et races.
@Lord Sidious
What you;re saying is that white people are descendants of the Aryan ET's? Black people, Indians, Chinese, Mexican and the rest are NOT like you?
How do you know this ? have you meet your ancestors that told you this? you know this to be fact?
Nations around Alpha Centauri A have darker tan, as well as cultures in Tau Ceti and Epsilon Eridani. Sirius and Procyon have quite dark-skinned people. Some cultures in Orion and Ursa Major star systems have slanted eyes like Asian people here.
I would say this is where we got our present day features. Many cultures who played a part in our creation.
Lord Sidious
1st March 2011, 17:54
What do you know of aliens from a world in orbit of Aldeberan?
OnyxKnight
1st March 2011, 18:06
What do you know of aliens from a world in orbit of Aldeberan?
That they caused a lot of mess during WW2. Some would be considered "Aryan", although except for the blond hair, I see no connection to the Aryan looks. Eyes are dark, and the skin is quite tanned and dry.
They also are colonizing nearby systems, as Aldebaran is becoming a bit unstable with its activity.
Why do you wanna know anyway?
Lord Sidious
1st March 2011, 18:12
What do you know of aliens from a world in orbit of Aldeberan?
That they caused a lot of mess during WW2. Some would be considered "Aryan", although except for the blond hair, I see no connection to the Aryan looks. Eyes are dark, and the skin is quite tanned and dry.
They also are colonizing nearby systems, as Aldebaran is becoming a bit unstable with its activity.
Why do you wanna know anyway?
Because I am nosey.
How do you know about them?
OnyxKnight
1st March 2011, 18:16
Because I am nosey.
How do you know about them?
From information of my own contact sources.
If you meant the specific looks of these people, they are registered as a 'Pleiadian' colony, in the library of a culture from Procyon, along with visual display.
Lord Sidious
1st March 2011, 18:19
Because I am nosey.
How do you know about them?
From information of my own contact sources.
If you meant the specific looks of these people, they are registered as a 'Pleiadian' colony, in the library of a culture from Procyon, along with visual display.
Is this info available to all?
OnyxKnight
1st March 2011, 18:29
Because I am nosey.
How do you know about them?
From information of my own contact sources.
If you meant the specific looks of these people, they are registered as a 'Pleiadian' colony, in the library of a culture from Procyon, along with visual display.
Is this info available to all?
Depending on when disclosure comes, most definitely will be. Right now only people contacted get some 'plus' information that the average person.
Lord Sidious
1st March 2011, 18:31
Because I am nosey.
How do you know about them?
From information of my own contact sources.
If you meant the specific looks of these people, they are registered as a 'Pleiadian' colony, in the library of a culture from Procyon, along with visual display.
Is this info available to all?
Depending on when disclosure comes, most definitely will be. Right now only people contacted get some 'plus' information that the average person.
Aha, now I get ya.
shybastid
1st March 2011, 18:51
I don't.
And I don't get how someone could work under Sitchen for 10 years KNOWING he was writing fiction,but for the "good" of the journey,if it opened up new idea's to people,isn't that a good thing?
I disagree.
I don't like people intentionally making up B.S.
kersley
1st March 2011, 18:56
With all due respect. it's all good calling names from different star systems, But how is this fact? to get these sort of information one would have to Chanel. is channeling accurate?
Because if it is. We need to pay close attention to Colleen Thomas and her 2 big bouncy buddies
The only other person i hear speaking of Humans being related to dolphins is Barbara Marciniack. she get her info from the plaideans again through channelling
OnyxKnight
1st March 2011, 19:12
With all due respect. it's all good calling names from different star systems, But how is this fact? to get these sort of information one would have to Chanel. is channeling accurate?
Because if it is. We need to pay close attention to Colleen Thomas and her 2 big bouncy buddies
The only other person i hear speaking of Humans being related to dolphins is Barbara Marciniack. she get her info from the plaideans again through channelling
I never said the information I got was through channeling ....
kersley
1st March 2011, 19:22
I never said the information I got was through channeling ....[/QUOTE]
No problems, would you like to share where you're getting this information from?
thanks
OnyxKnight
1st March 2011, 19:27
No problems, would you like to share where you're getting this information from?
thanks
Direct contact.
SKIBADABOMSKI
1st March 2011, 19:27
May I just jump in and say that you people are amazing. Some of the posts in this thread are nothing short of pure genius. Never in my wildest dreams did I expect to see such topics being seriously discussed.
I came here to be educated and it's these fascinating discussions that really inspire me.
Thank you so much..
Please continue
Ski-
K626
1st March 2011, 19:30
It's pretty straighforward you take away the roots of man, his beliefs and his history and you leave him with nothing to fight back with. The Annunaki stuff is pure mystification and designed to hide the real truth of our history.
cheers
K
kersley
1st March 2011, 19:33
Onyx.
i would really like to hear more about your direct contact. but if this is a problem. i'll understand.
thanks
Ahkenaten
1st March 2011, 19:38
Hi K626 - I wonder if you might be more specific concerning what you said yesterday about Chromosome 32, AIDS and the Black Plague. Are you speaking of mutations on the chromosome seemingly dating to the period of the Plague that are protective against it and also, perhaps, protective against AIDS or something more than that?
"O'Brien assembled an international team of scientists to test for the presence of delta 32 around the world. "Native Africans did not have delta 32 at all," O'Brien says, "and when we looked at East Asians and Indians, they were also flat zero." In fact, the levels of delta 32 found in Eyam were only matched in regions of Europe that had been affected by the plague and in America, which was, for the most part, settled by European plague survivors and their descendents.
Think about that first.
cheers
K
Further reading.
http://www.thetech.org/genetics/ask.php?id=111
Did I miss something here? I quickly skimmed the entire thread and cannot see anything pertaining to the above in this thread? I've had a bad day, perhaps it's just me misunderstanding :confused:
Sorry for double posting, I wanted to edit my last post but couldn't work out how to quote from the edit box.
Mouse x
Mousie the above comments were a detailed discussion about blood-related issues, i.e. DNA, etc.
Lord Sidious
1st March 2011, 19:40
With all due respect. it's all good calling names from different star systems, But how is this fact? to get these sort of information one would have to Chanel. is channeling accurate?
Because if it is. We need to pay close attention to Colleen Thomas and her 2 big bouncy buddies
The only other person i hear speaking of Humans being related to dolphins is Barbara Marciniack. she get her info from the plaideans again through channelling
Do me a favour?
Lose the comments about facts, ok?
We all have our own opinions and that is all it is.
If you think you know any facts, then you need to re evaluate what you think you know.
OnyxKnight
1st March 2011, 19:41
It's pretty straighforward you take away the roots of man, his beliefs and his history and you leave him with nothing to fight back with. The Annunaki stuff is pure mystification and designed to hide the real truth of our history.
cheers
K
All people don't share the same beliefs, and nobody is taken that away from them.
Roots? The topic we are discussing here does concern mankind's roots.
History? Ain't that part of the topic? We are just adding to it. Present history is full of holes, we are just adding substance to those holes.
And when you say real truth about our history, that would be what exactly?
Onyx.
i would really like to hear more about your direct contact. but if this is a problem. i'll understand.
thanks
I don't mind being questioned about it at all, its just that I don't think it would be fair to clutter the topic at hand with that stuff, unless it has something to do with it.
Though I could do it in a PM I guess.
Ahkenaten
1st March 2011, 19:42
Woah, Shy Bastid - who said they worked for Sitchin for 10 years and where did anyone say it was OK to mislead people? Did I miss something? And with respect to the subject of channeled info, that in my personal opinion, is HIGHLY subjective and not really provable. We are getting into beliefs there. As long as that is made very clear...........believing in something does NOT necessarily make it real to others unless of course they also believe it or have that exact experience.
I would presume people are respecting Irish's intent in posting a thread on Annunaki Blood with their posts?
OnyxKnight
1st March 2011, 19:49
I would presume people are respecting Irish's intent in posting a thread on Annunaki Blood with their posts?
Highly.
From my side anyway. I do find it an interesting, and also important topic to be discussed.
kersley
1st March 2011, 19:52
Onyx. PM would be great.
Thanks
shybastid
1st March 2011, 20:08
My sincerest apologies. I did'nt mean to sound so harsh or disrespectful. Just got off a lousy phone call. No excuse.
I CAN"T find the statement about someone working with Sitchen right now.. but you DID confirm his work is fiction.
As I have noted elswhere on this forum, although Sitchen is to be commended for bringing attention of a wider audience to Sumerian Culture and its mysteries, there have been legitimate questions about his scholarship. This is why his books are located in the FICTION section of bookstores, they are creative elaborations.
I was using some of his work to validate some of my beliefs. I really did'nt know it was ALL(most?which parts?) confirmed a hoax. I knew SOME of it was.
That's my fault for not doing better research.
Again..Sorry I barked.
:rolleyes:
OnyxKnight
1st March 2011, 22:05
Onyx. PM would be great.
Thanks
Well, if you have any question, that could be a nice way to start :) (Because I dont know where to start myself :D)
blake
2nd March 2011, 00:54
It's pretty straighforward you take away the roots of man, his beliefs and his history and you leave him with nothing to fight back with. The Annunaki stuff is pure mystification and designed to hide the real truth of our history.
cheers
K
Hello K626,
Do you know or have any guess as to what the real truth of our history is, and if you do can yo share that?
Sincerely,
Mr. Davis
3/1/11
Ahkenaten
2nd March 2011, 01:00
My sincerest apologies. I did'nt mean to sound so harsh or disrespectful. Just got off a lousy phone call. No excuse.
I CAN"T find the statement about someone working with Sitchen right now.. but you DID confirm his work is fiction.
As I have noted elswhere on this forum, although Sitchen is to be commended for bringing attention of a wider audience to Sumerian Culture and its mysteries, there have been legitimate questions about his scholarship. This is why his books are located in the FICTION section of bookstores, they are creative elaborations.
I was using some of his work to validate some of my beliefs. I really did'nt know it was ALL(most?which parts?) confirmed a hoax. I knew SOME of it was.
That's my fault for not doing better research.
Again..Sorry I barked.
:rolleyes:
I wouldn't personally go so far as to say Mr. Sitchin was a hoax (you know he died last yr, right?) I was trying to point out that he embellished, and took editorial liberties, shall you say, with the material? I had suggested that those with sincere interests in pursuing the subject of ancient Sumerian civilization should look at the work of Noah Kramer considered to be one of the best Sumerian scholars the US has ever produced. Just a suggestion! Cheers!
RedeZra
2nd March 2011, 01:43
And here lies the problem... The Book of Enoch is thought (by some scholars) to have been put together in stages during the first half of the second century BC. It seems to me that the ancients of that time would have no concept of ufo's or space/air craft as we do today - thanks to the Wright Brothers. With that in mind, it would be easy to see how the ancients would interpret alien visitors as angels. Of course, this is just conjecture on my part. According to Judaeo-Christian tradition, angels have no form or substance, they are incorporeal, that is, no body to speak of, and so how is it possible for them to reproduce? Were the sons of god angels or another race entirely?
It's a modern twist and trend to secularize the supernatural and turn interdimensional beings into extraterrestrials
It's only normal and natural that if one buys the modern extraterrestrial hypothesis then one will encounter discrepancies with long established religions
But why put trust and faith in the modern day proponents of extraterrestrials
Just join Scientology lol
shybastid
2nd March 2011, 03:15
Thank's for getting me get off the hook for being rude Ahk.
I meant no disrespect.
Thanks
Avalon people know better then to be disrespectful.
Sorry..
;)
Ahkenaten
2nd March 2011, 03:16
Thank's for getting me get off the hook for being rude Ahk.
I meant no disrespect.
Thanks
Avalon people know better then to be disrespectful.
Sorry..
;)
I didn't see it that way really. I actually have a pretty thick skin about these things unless it is overt attacks of one form or another.
slvrfx
2nd March 2011, 03:41
I don't.
And I don't get how someone could work under Sitchen for 10 years KNOWING he was writing fiction,but for the "good" of the journey,if it opened up new idea's to people,isn't that a good thing?
I disagree.
I don't like people intentionally making up B.S.
Mistaken notion to accuse Sitchin of being a writer of fiction. Yes, his work wasn't exactly scholarly, but it has solid facts in it. If you compare his to others, you'll see his has its own value.
(For more links that collaborate Sitchin's work, read Laurence Gardner's books. He sites quite a few ancient texts separate and apart from the Sumerian.)
Steph
2nd March 2011, 09:53
And here lies the problem... The Book of Enoch is thought (by some scholars) to have been put together in stages during the first half of the second century BC. It seems to me that the ancients of that time would have no concept of ufo's or space/air craft as we do today - thanks to the Wright Brothers. With that in mind, it would be easy to see how the ancients would interpret alien visitors as angels. Of course, this is just conjecture on my part. According to Judaeo-Christian tradition, angels have no form or substance, they are incorporeal, that is, no body to speak of, and so how is it possible for them to reproduce? Were the sons of god angels or another race entirely?
It's a modern twist and trend to secularize the supernatural and turn interdimensional beings into extraterrestrials
It's only normal and natural that if one buys the modern extraterrestrial hypothesis then one will encounter discrepancies with long established religions
But why put trust and faith in the modern day proponents of extraterrestrials
Just join Scientology lol
I do understand your point Red. My current thinking is working along those lines, but those lines aren't fixed or straight. Hey, I'm a flexible gal! There are many theories I haven't had time to read yet so I'm not ruling anything out. The book I'm reading at present is based on the Watchers/Nephilim being another human race. I read it some 15 years ago but the older I get I'm finding I can't retain anything so am having to read it again :P
I'm absolutely struck by the account of Noah's birth. Lamech was horrified to discover his son was "not like us" with hair as white as wool, his body as white as snow and red as a rose and with eyes that glowed so much they lit up the house like the sun. Lamech thought his son to be "of the angels".
Interesting. And yet it was Noah's line that was saved? You mentioned giants (nephilim), there have indeed been accounts of giant bones being found but I am unable to find out if these are real or just hoaxes. I will continue to look though - I always did love a good myth!
Mouse x
kersley
2nd March 2011, 09:59
@ Mouse.
Hair white as wool? what book is that you're reading?
Thanks
Steph
2nd March 2011, 10:21
@ Mouse.
Hair white as wool? what book is that you're reading?
Thanks
It is taken from a passage in the Book of Noah (appended to the Book of Enoch), there is also an account of Noah's birth in the Genesis Apochryphon (one of the dead sea scrolls). One must remember that the Book of Enoch is pseudipigraphal. Both passages are explored in the current book I am reading that I mentioned on the first page of in this thread. If you would like me to reproduce some of it, I would be happy to do so, each are only a couple of paragraphs.
Mouse x
kersley
2nd March 2011, 10:35
The oldest skeleton found in Britain is 33,000 years old. We are talking woolly mammoths and sabre tooth tigers here. The Anunnaki came to earth 445,000 years ago. Why did it take them 13.7 Nibiru years ( 49320 earth years) to create humans?
This would mean that Nibiru came past 13 - 14 times before they genetically engineered humans. Obviously man must be a lot older than what we think,failing that Sitchin is wrong?
We have physical evidence that the skeleton found carbon dated 33,000 years old. How then are the Sumerians only 6,000 years if they were the first to be created?
Also what about the foot print of early man along side dinosaurs? We are not talking apes here, but footprint of man wearing leather shoes. Man must have been here before the Anunnaki came... surely?
Unless i get answers real soon, i will be burning all of my Sitchin's books. I mean how dare He?
Steph
2nd March 2011, 10:43
Mhm... I'm pretty sure I read somewhere that the carbon dating method has recently proven to be innacurate. I'll have a dig around the internet to see if I can confirm this though.
Edit:
Did a quick search, perhaps I was too hasty, I can't see that carbon dating has actually been disproven but it does seem to have some flaws.
kersley
2nd March 2011, 10:43
@ Mouse.
Hair white as wool? what book is that you're reading?
Thanks
It is taken from a passage in the Book of Noah (appended to the Book of Enoch), there is also an account of Noah's birth in the Genesis Apochryphon (one of the dead sea scrolls). One must remember that the Book of Enoch is pseudipigraphal. Both passages are explored in the current book I am reading that I mentioned on the first page of in this thread. If you would like me to reproduce some of it, I would be happy to do so, each are only a couple of paragraphs.
Mouse x
Thanks or that Hun. I do have a copy of the book of Enoch.
Reading the lost book of Enki - Sitchen. it says white as snow,hair like golden sand, eyes blue like the sky. Indeed Enki was not pleased and wanted to kill the baby.But was made to live apart from the rest of the people to a far away land. Like you i need to recap.
Steph
2nd March 2011, 11:08
@ Mouse.
Hair white as wool? what book is that you're reading?
Thanks
It is taken from a passage in the Book of Noah (appended to the Book of Enoch), there is also an account of Noah's birth in the Genesis Apochryphon (one of the dead sea scrolls). One must remember that the Book of Enoch is pseudipigraphal. Both passages are explored in the current book I am reading that I mentioned on the first page of in this thread. If you would like me to reproduce some of it, I would be happy to do so, each are only a couple of paragraphs.
Mouse x
Thanks or that Hun. I do have a copy of the book of Enoch.
Reading the lost book of Enki - Sitchen. it says white as snow,hair like golden sand, eyes blue like the sky. Indeed Enki was not pleased and wanted to kill the baby.But was made to live apart from the rest of the people to a far away land. Like you i need to recap.
Anytime :)
Here ya go, the first paragraph is Enoch's account - anything in brackets is the author's clarification;
And after some days my son, Methuselah, took a wife for his son Lamech, and she became pregnant by him and bore him a son. And his body was white as snow and red as a rose; the hair of his head as white as wool and his demdema (‘long curly hair’) beautiful; and as for his eyes, when he opened them the whole house glowed like the son… And his father, Lamech was afraid of him and fled and went to Methuselah his father; and said to him, ‘I have begotten a strange son. He is not like an (ordinary) human being, but he looks like the children of the angels of heaven to me, his form is different, and he is not like us… It does not seem to me that he is of me, but of angels…’
The passage below is from the Genesis Apocryphon and differs in as much as the narrative is from Lamech himself and concerns Lamech's wife Bathenosh;
Behold, I thought then within my heart that conception was (due) to the Watchers, and the Holy ones…and to the Nephilim…and my heart was troubled within me because of this child.
Lamech then turns to his wife Bathenosh and makes her swear to him that she has not lain with anyone else and she pleads with him;
‘O my lord, O my [brother, remember] my pleasure! I swear to thee by the Holy Great One, the king of [the heavens]… that this seed is yours and that [this] conception is from you. This fruit was planted by you… and by no stranger or Watcher or Son of Heaven… I speak to you truthfully.
The account by Enoch is really quite chilling and poignant isn't it?
Mouse x
kersley
2nd March 2011, 11:30
Mhm... I'm pretty sure I read somewhere that the carbon dating method has recently proven to be innacurate. I'll have a dig around the internet to see if I can confirm this though.
Edit:
Did a quick search, perhaps I was too hasty, I can't see that carbon dating has actually been disproven but it does seem to have some flaws.
I saw this yersterday on a programed call, are we still evolving? it will be screened again on Sunday.
Kers
Steph
2nd March 2011, 13:38
Thank you Kersley hon, I will look out for that, not sure it will be aired in the UK but I will search online for it if need be :)
RedeZra
2nd March 2011, 20:46
Interesting. And yet it was Noah's line that was saved? You mentioned giants (nephilim), there have indeed been accounts of giant bones being found but I am unable to find out if these are real or just hoaxes. I will continue to look though - I always did love a good myth!
Mouse x
Enoch seems to think that the offspring between angels and women produced Giant demi-gods
Jesus quotes Enoch in some of His speaks which - at least to me - give Enoch credibility
the Establishment is more interested in control than truth so alot of facts and artifacts pertaining to both the Bible and the Giants are being suppressed
I believe the Elite wants to bury Jesus Christ once and for all from our minds - so that they can mold us anyway they want
OnyxKnight
2nd March 2011, 20:50
I did that at age 9 without any help of the Elite RedeZra.
RedeZra
2nd March 2011, 21:00
it's ok OnyxKnight
you are still young
me I am old as an old oak ; )
K626
3rd March 2011, 22:05
It's pretty straighforward you take away the roots of man, his beliefs and his history and you leave him with nothing to fight back with. The Annunaki stuff is pure mystification and designed to hide the real truth of our history.
cheers
K
Hello K626,
Do you know or have any guess as to what the real truth of our history is, and if you do can yo share that?
Sincerely,
Mr. Davis
3/1/11
That's a big old question. :p
I'm not sure it is in my remit to cover the whole of man's diaspora or infact withing my abilities, I too am learning something new everyday.
But, I can be clear on one thing.
Man was NOT tinkered with or created by ANY HIGHER POWER and it has served many hegemonies well to plant this in our heads, be it Christianity or other faiths. There is ZERO eveidence for it and belive me I have looked hard and I would know (in truth there was a time I believed in some kind of cosmic synthesis but now in my opinion it was only chance).
Man was NOT created by any kind of God or other diety of note.
Man has survived and thrived to my knowledge 3 advanced cultures on this earth, this incarnation being the latest.
Man has done this by himself and with the use of his cunning and his natural drive to overcome obastacles, he has done this by communing and taking advantage of mother nature and if deep in the core of man there is a mystery my money is on it being a pagan one.
Man is however no accident.
cheers
<K>
* I don't like doing huge posts and try and keep it simple. :couch2:
nb
I belive the correct progression has been from communing with the forest/river/mountain and thier spirits, to the invention of the feminine/male fertility (earth as a whole) to the sky god. In all these processes MAN has been the locus and the co-creator and inventor of the mystery.
If there really is one wonderful mystery yet to discover IT IS MAN.
OnyxKnight
3rd March 2011, 22:16
Somebody's Ego can't handle that its a result of an experiment.
Shame really ...
All your life your parents have told you you are special, and unique.
If their words have merit, this is why.
chebornek
5th March 2011, 01:36
I do not have any answers, but merely suggested reading. In no particular order.
Signs of The Gods - Erich Von Daniken (and his website)
Slave Species of god - Michael Tellinger
The gods of Eden - William Bramley
War is a Racket - Smedley Butler
The Lost Book of Enki - Zecharia Sitchin
Genesis of the Cosmos - Paul LaViolette (and his website)
Gods of the New Millenium - Alan Alford
Moongate: Suppressed Findings of the U.S. Space Program - William L Brian II
This New Ocean: The Story of the First Space Age - William E Burrows
Panspermia.org ( Fred Hoyle & Chandra Wickramasinghe & others )
I think I saw a UFO, very early one cloudless morning, shortly after midnight in my time zone, last July. I live in an area that suffers little light pollution. In truth I don't know what I saw for nearly ten minutes.
Aside from that, I don't think I've ever met an abductee. Nor do I believe I've ever met an extraterrestrial. But the over last several years since I first stumbled into Mr. Ryan's former Project Camelot, one thing has been constant for me.
A lot of things I have read, watched and analyzed have seemed fantastical or ripped from the pages of great science fiction. Arthur C. Clarke wrote some of the best of that genre (and a lot of his 'predictions' came to fruition).
I don't discount anything anymore. For forty years I had been taught much different things and then 9/11 occurred and after I recovered from that major brain trauma (took me almost a year), I began to visualize most everything differently.
I have no answers, but I have an insatiable curiosity and hundreds of questions.
And, John Lear is currently the god of my understanding (tongue-in-cheek).
**Blood of the Annunaki? Yeah, I'm down with some of that theory.
Lord Sidious
5th March 2011, 06:47
I do not have any answers, but merely suggested reading. In no particular order.
Signs of The Gods - Erich Von Daniken (and his website)
Slave Species of god - Michael Tellinger
The gods of Eden - William Bramley
War is a Racket - Smedley Butler
The Lost Book of Enki - Zecharia Sitchin
Genesis of the Cosmos - Paul LaViolette (and his website)
Gods of the New Millenium - Alan Alford
Moongate: Suppressed Findings of the U.S. Space Program - William L Brian II
This New Ocean: The Story of the First Space Age - William E Burrows
Panspermia.org ( Fred Hoyle & Chandra Wickramasinghe & others )
I think I saw a UFO, very early one cloudless morning, shortly after midnight in my time zone, last July. I live in an area that suffers little light pollution. In truth I don't know what I saw for nearly ten minutes.
Aside from that, I don't think I've ever met an abductee. Nor do I believe I've ever met an extraterrestrial. But the over last several years since I first stumbled into Mr. Ryan's former Project Camelot, one thing has been constant for me.
A lot of things I have read, watched and analyzed have seemed fantastical or ripped from the pages of great science fiction. Arthur C. Clarke wrote some of the best of that genre (and a lot of his 'predictions' came to fruition).
I don't discount anything anymore. For forty years I had been taught much different things and then 9/11 occurred and after I recovered from that major brain trauma (took me almost a year), I began to visualize most everything differently.
I have no answers, but I have an insatiable curiosity and hundreds of questions.
And, John Lear is currently the god of my understanding (tongue-in-cheek).
**Blood of the Annunaki? Yeah, I'm down with some of that theory.
Some very good reading there.
Welcome to Avalon.
jorr lundstrom
5th March 2011, 06:58
Radio Galactica recommends " Ethics and manners in Milky Way" by Strefe Schnurf.
Very cheap in paperback now in most spaceports over the galaxy.:flame::flame::flame:
Krullenjongen
16th March 2011, 13:54
Why is Sitchen fiction when he first was considered the world expert in reading that language?
Micheal Heiser has done a lot of work on why Sitchen is wrong.
See: http://www.sitchiniswrong.com/
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