ABC's The View Inexplicably Hosts Fringe Conspiracy Theorist Alex Jones

[irishspirit]

On his radio show last year, Alex Jones said (http://mediamatters.org/research/201102250047) this: "I have the government documents where they said they're going to encourage homosexuality with chemicals so that people don't have children." He is probably the country's most prominent 9-11 Truther.


Today, The View gave this man a platform to promote his lunatic conspiracy theories on network television.


I understand that Jones' show happens to be the place where Charlie Sheen had a meltdown that resulted in the suspension of his sitcom, but it's simply inexcusable to allow Jones to spread his message.


http://mediamatters.org/blog/201102280020


Video in sider. Alex did really really well on this one.


As you can see from the mediamatters.com article, it hurt them.

[s3nru]

ha way to go alex! very amusing

[13th Warrior]

"I have the government documents where they said they're going to encourage homosexuality with chemicals so that people don't have children." He is probably the country's most prominent 9-11 Truther.





What's up with this totally unrelated quote???

[9eagle9]

If one ever visits AJ's forum its raddled with homophobics. I was banned for suggesting that homosexuality was probably not created by the CIA as there are references to it in historical documents going back thousands of years. I'm not sure if AJ holds this same mindset or not...if so it suggests less truth than a personal agenda....or perhaps a vendetta. It's certainly supported on the forum though unless things have changed since my time there.

[Lord Sidious]

"I have the government documents where they said they're going to encourage homosexuality with chemicals so that people don't have children." He is probably the country's most prominent 9-11 Truther.





What's up with this totally unrelated quote???

Did you follow the link?
It is on that blog.

[13th Warrior]

"I have the government documents where they said they're going to encourage homosexuality with chemicals so that people don't have children." He is probably the country's most prominent 9-11 Truther.




What's up with this totally unrelated quote???

Did you follow the link?
It is on that blog.

Yes, I certainly did...it's still unrelated to this story and is quoted without linking to the source material.

It's an obvious missdirect...well, maybe not obvious...

[davyj0nes]

he came off quite well i think. Don't know if they thought they were gonna do a hit job on him too, but he sure did turn it around.

[Arrowwind]

Unfortunately he will not likey be asked to return but maybe one show wil be enough to give him a good boost.

[Etherios]

If one ever visits AJ's forum its raddled with homophobics. I was banned for suggesting that homosexuality was probably not created by the CIA as there are references to it in historical documents going back thousands of years. I'm not sure if AJ holds this same mindset or not...if so it suggests less truth than a personal agenda....or perhaps a vendetta. It's certainly supported on the forum though unless things have changed since my time there.

well the problem isnt homosexuality. The problem is that on a western world that is aging/dieng promoting or through toxics increasing the homosexuality is a means to depopulation. So noone is homophobic ... but we really dont like depopulation. Also you have to agree that now days if you are not gay you almost cant get in entertainment industry. If you add to that the hormones and toxics we consume the increase in homosexuals and the decrease of the sperm count on males is ... dangerous.

[Dakini]

"I have the government documents where they said they're going to encourage homosexuality with chemicals so that people don't have children." He is probably the country's most prominent 9-11 Truther.




What's up with this totally unrelated quote???

Did you follow the link?
It is on that blog.

Yes, I certainly did...it's still unrelated to this story and is quoted without linking to the source material.

It's an obvious missdirect...well, maybe not obvious...

I agree. TPTB need Alex to sound like a nut job so that people will be less likely to take him seriously. The above quote has more to do with eugenics than homophobia IMO.
Nice to see Alex got some plugs in, and mentioned the economic theft perpetrated by the federal reserve as well as G.W.'s war crimes. Typical TV though-- THATS not important- WE want to here about Charlie Sheen!!!!

I don't believe that Alex has not been around that many coke-heads, (lucky for him!), Charlie sure sounded alot like someone strung out.

[Arrowwind]

If one ever visits AJ's forum its raddled with homophobics. I was banned for suggesting that homosexuality was probably not created by the CIA as there are references to it in historical documents going back thousands of years. I'm not sure if AJ holds this same mindset or not...if so it suggests less truth than a personal agenda....or perhaps a vendetta. It's certainly supported on the forum though unless things have changed since my time there.

well the problem isnt homosexuality. The problem is that on a western world that is aging/dieng promoting or through toxics increasing the homosexuality is a means to depopulation. So noone is homophobic ... but we really dont like depopulation. Also you have to agree that now days if you are not gay you almost cant get in entertainment industry. If you add to that the hormones and toxics we consume the increase in homosexuals and the decrease of the sperm count on males is ... dangerous.

I doubt that there have been any signficant studies done on it.. but it seems to me the likelyhood of increased homosexuality due to environmental chemical exposure is a very real thing. Certainly it is causing increased cancer of toxic estrogenic origins. Why woul we even begin to assume that these chemicals have no impact on a developing fetus.



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and the significant over consumption of soy products could be a contributing factor also, and god only knows what the GMO soy products could be doing to our babies, both female and male

[mondaze]

i listen to alex jones every day until his rants become annoying then i tune out. there is a lot to recommend his show but is sometimes off the mark. the charlie sheen interview was just such a situation. too embarassing for words.

[Etherios]

i listen to alex jones every day until his rants become annoying then i tune out. there is a lot to recommend his show but is sometimes off the mark. the charlie sheen interview was just such a situation. too embarassing for words.

Tbh sheens interview was ... not like an interview. Sheen was trying to vent off and trying to defend himself at the same time and it didnt come up well. I dont care about Sheens ego but alot of what he said was true and he didnt attack anyone that he didnt know. On the contrary he defended himself against ppl that barely know him but keep judging him ... i am not American so i dont follow on what its been said about him (dont care tbh stoped watching TV long ago.)

Sheen has same personality like AJ. They both get overpowered when they feel they have the truth on their side. Its not wrong its just how some ppl are. They both over do it but if you just ignore the occasional rantings AJ is a huge pool of info. SO far most is accurate and he doesnt talk about things he cant prove. So for me both AJ and this interview was a good info material...

[BrianEn]

Whoopi Goldberg was saying that his other topics(building 7) were too much for her too handle but didn't dispute them.

[DouglasDanger]

I am realy surprised that AJ did the show considering what the View had to say about Jesse Ventura a little bit ago. The women on the view are washed up with no place to go actresses and TV personalities who get thier information from teleprompters, you can see the amount of investigating they do on the topics, None..someone gives thier opinions to them while they are siting in thier makeup chairs. I'm not surprised whoopie couldn't handle the information, she can't laugh with out squirting you know!

[jackovesk]

On his radio show last year, Alex Jones said (http://mediamatters.org/research/201102250047) this: "I have the government documents where they said they're going to encourage homosexuality with chemicals so that people don't have children." He is probably the country's most prominent 9-11 Truther.


Today, The View gave this man a platform to promote his lunatic conspiracy theories on network television.


I understand that Jones' show happens to be the place where Charlie Sheen had a meltdown that resulted in the suspension of his sitcom, but it's simply inexcusable to allow Jones to spread his message.


http://mediamatters.org/blog/201102280020


Video in sider. Alex did really really well on this one.


As you can see from the mediamatters.com article, it hurt them.

Absolutely 'BLOODY BRILLIANT'!

Well Done Alex Jones...

Thank YOU Irishspirit great find and your best Post to date.

This show went out to 30 Million Viewers...

Keep up the Great Work...

Regards,
Jack

:bump:...:clap2:...Keep punchin Alex...:boxing:

Alex Jones on the View - You Tube Clip...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVqC-ncLDk8&feature=player_embedded

Review & Analysis by Aaron Dykes of the Show @ 04.30 mins


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffxOnzYVps0&feature=player_embedded

[Dennis Leahy]

... The problem is that on a western world that is aging/dieng promoting or through toxics increasing the homosexuality...

... the hormones and toxics we consume the increase in homosexuals ...


... it seems to me the likelyhood of increased homosexuality due to environmental chemical exposure is a very real thing
Wow, I've never heard this expressed before. I highly doubt that this is true.

Human attributes:

sexual orientation
gender identity
physical gender


Those attributes can come in every combination. Further, sexual orientation certainly is scalar, not polar, and even gender identity (I believe) is scalar rather than polar.

So, you might meet a person that presents as a female (female genitalia), identifies as a male, and is sexually attracted to men - making him a transgendered gay man. (Although society will not persecute this person they see as a woman attracted to men.)

I agree that environmental chemicals might alter the physical gender or maybe, maybe (but much less likely) the gender identity, but not the sexual orientation of a fetus. Sexual orientation is reportedly a human attribute that is chosen by an incarnating soul, before incarnation. If fact, since time is not linear, when we are choosing a body to incarnate into, all indications are that we are aware in advance what we're getting ourselves into, so I don't believe there is a "Surprise! You incarnated as a female!" thing going on after the fact.

Thus, any environmental alteration of those attributes should not present a problem for the incarnating soul.

Dennis

p.s. More on topic, this was a coup by Alex Jones. HE did very well. I'm not terribly fond of him (so over-the-top in style, and some substance is BS), but generally he is a loud alarm clock and has awakened a fair share.

[Neal]

Personally, I thought Alex Jones did a stellar job of blasting out of the gate from the get-go and steamrolling over 'The View' ladies... That's the way to take control of an interview and direct it in the manner you want it to go and not how the show producers had in mind. Hopefully, some of the viewers will be somewhat interested and head to his website to see the other side of the information they are fed by the corporate media. I was laughing hysterically while watching the video of the overpowering control AJ had. :dance: I think the show producers didn't listen to his show or had no idea of what he is normally like. I will admit, however, that AJ can rant and his shows can get a little difficult to listen to sometimes, but I enjoy hearing a different perspective to the topics of the day.

Regarding Charlie Sheen's interview on Alex Jones' show, I thought he was rambling and AJ seemed embarrassed and didn't seem to want to take control of the interview from Charlie. Despite this, it was at least good to hear from the horses mouth of how Charlie is trying to turn his life around after finding drugs and alcohol again. Here's to hoping he can keep it up!

[BrianEn]

It was too early for Sheen to go on the Jones show. He sounded like he was still spinning from withdrawls.

[bennycog]

http://mediamatters.org/blog/201102280020

Farout did you read the comments on this and the last couple paragraphs of the article? imagine if these guys made it onto our site?


" At the end of his appearance, Jones again plugged his site: "Charlie, stay clean. We love you. And everybody else out there, stay clean. Don't use drugs. InfoWars.com. InfoWars.com."

There is no mistaking what Jones is doing here. He said on his radio show on Friday that "we'll be able to inject InfoWars.com into the discussion when I'm on those broadcasts, and the people will come here and find the larger picture. It's kind of the red pill."

The "larger picture" he's talking about includes the shocking truths that the government can control hurricanes and that "globalists" were involved in the Space Shuttle Columbia disaster.

Media outlets: Stop hosting Alex Jones. There is no way to justify allowing him to promote this garbage.

For instance:

•Jones' main theory is that a "New World Order" of secretive, powerful elites are working behind the scenes to rule the world through an authoritarian government. Jones thinks the New World Order will exterminate 80 percent of the world's population.
•Jones is perhaps the country's most prominent 9-11 truther and regularly states his position that the government was behind the 9-11 terrorist attacks.
•Jones believes the government has set up a series of secret FEMA-run concentration camps.
•He has also pushed conspiracy theories about weather control, mass sterilization, the Oklahoma City bombing and the Space Shuttle Columbia disaster, among others. "

[3optic]

http://mediamatters.org/blog/201102280020

Farout did you read the comments on this and the last couple paragraphs of the article? imagine if these guys made it onto our site?


" At the end of his appearance, Jones again plugged his site: "Charlie, stay clean. We love you. And everybody else out there, stay clean. Don't use drugs. InfoWars.com. InfoWars.com."

There is no mistaking what Jones is doing here. He said on his radio show on Friday that "we'll be able to inject InfoWars.com into the discussion when I'm on those broadcasts, and the people will come here and find the larger picture. It's kind of the red pill."

The "larger picture" he's talking about includes the shocking truths that the government can control hurricanes and that "globalists" were involved in the Space Shuttle Columbia disaster.

Media outlets: Stop hosting Alex Jones. There is no way to justify allowing him to promote this garbage.

For instance:

•Jones' main theory is that a "New World Order" of secretive, powerful elites are working behind the scenes to rule the world through an authoritarian government. Jones thinks the New World Order will exterminate 80 percent of the world's population.
•Jones is perhaps the country's most prominent 9-11 truther and regularly states his position that the government was behind the 9-11 terrorist attacks.
•Jones believes the government has set up a series of secret FEMA-run concentration camps.
•He has also pushed conspiracy theories about weather control, mass sterilization, the Oklahoma City bombing and the Space Shuttle Columbia disaster, among others. "

Endless are the fools..

[chelmostef]

http://mediamatters.org/blog/201102280020
Farout did you read the comments on this and the last couple paragraphs of the article? imagine if these guys made it onto our site?

No one in the comments ask how building 7 came down though.... Its as if they are in denial and just skirt around the obvious facts.

Or some of these comments are AI's posting as humans.... If this is the case we should focus our thoughts to uncovering this fact.... Send in you mind "Do the right thing, expose the truth, be strong, you can do it" If enough people did that we would have whistle blowers coming forward left right and center exposing this fraud. IMO

[myrm]

What message is inexcusable? He's right on with nearly every report albeit at high anxiety levels. myrm

[myrm]

Canned TV. GO Alex! Only he could get a few words out through those fake Americans BOY DID HE!

[3optic]

More of Charlie Sheen's brilliant narcissistic ranting. I went through something like this after a rebound from a drug spiral. It doesn't last but there is a euphoric back-from-the-dead momentum that seems like it will last forever. Lots of creativity. Lots of projects started..

Reminds me of some of the more inspired Charles Manson rants:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5aSa4tmVNM&feature=list_related&playnext=1&list=SL

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5aSa4tmVNM&feature=player_embedded

[chelmostef]

More of Charlie Sheen's brilliant narcissistic ranting. I went through something like this after a rebound from a drug spiral. It doesn't last but there is a euphoric back-from-the-dead momentum that seems like it will last forever. Lots of creativity. Lots of projects started..

Reminds me of some of the more inspired Charles Manson rants:

the videos gone already! Copyright infingement? or somthing else i know they like taking Alex Jones stuff off you tube.


I wish Charlie well. He has the highs and the lows plus he has a lot of external factors to contend with which can be a good thing or bad thing... I think the media want him out there in this volatile state so they can discredit he easier. The media are gonna find any little fault in him and just keep working that button. I send him strength

[3optic]

the videos gone already! Copyright infingement? or somthing else i know they like taking Alex Jones stuff off you tube.


It's there they just wont let me embed. :(

You can watch on You Tube if you click link.

[bennycog]

" chelmostef
No one in the comments ask how building 7 came down though.... Its as if they are in denial and just skirt around the obvious facts. "

This is so true.. i cant remember how many i have spoken to about building 7 and they look at you so dumbly. argh frustrating

[chelmostef]

" chelmostef
No one in the comments ask how building 7 came down though.... Its as if they are in denial and just skirt around the obvious facts. "

This is so true.. i cant remember how many i have spoken to about building 7 and they look at you so dumbly. argh frustrating

Ha Ha, innit though! It's like-

Bla Bla Bla, What about building 7? Erm Bla Bla Bla, Bla Bla.... No wonder people are called sheep... These people are in denial, it effects their core reality so much that they cannot see the truth right in front of their face and TPTwere love it.

People are coming round though... Slowly slowly catchy monkey and the monkey is nearly in the bag! I hope. The veil is lifting.

[BMJ]

http://mediamatters.org/blog/201102280020

Farout did you read the comments on this and the last couple paragraphs of the article? imagine if these guys made it onto our site?


" At the end of his appearance, Jones again plugged his site: "Charlie, stay clean. We love you. And everybody else out there, stay clean. Don't use drugs. InfoWars.com. InfoWars.com."

There is no mistaking what Jones is doing here. He said on his radio show on Friday that "we'll be able to inject InfoWars.com into the discussion when I'm on those broadcasts, and the people will come here and find the larger picture. It's kind of the red pill."

The "larger picture" he's talking about includes the shocking truths that the government can control hurricanes and that "globalists" were involved in the Space Shuttle Columbia disaster.

Media outlets: Stop hosting Alex Jones. There is no way to justify allowing him to promote this garbage.

For instance:

•Jones' main theory is that a "New World Order" of secretive, powerful elites are working behind the scenes to rule the world through an authoritarian government. Jones thinks the New World Order will exterminate 80 percent of the world's population.
•Jones is perhaps the country's most prominent 9-11 truther and regularly states his position that the government was behind the 9-11 terrorist attacks.
•Jones believes the government has set up a series of secret FEMA-run concentration camps.
•He has also pushed conspiracy theories about weather control, mass sterilization, the Oklahoma City bombing and the Space Shuttle Columbia disaster, among others. "

Excellent controversy creates great publicity, and Alex Jones site will get a ton of hits for this interview, and assist more people to awaken.

[Arrowwind]

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[mondaze]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0nMq6gc1yMg

the furore about sheen has even reached daybreak tv in the uk. this level of vilification of a truth seeker has not been seen since david icke in the early 90's... i enclose a clip for people unaware of that situation... its as if they can squash the truth by attacking the mental state of the teller.

[Lord Sidious]

I was never a ''fan'' of Icke, but here is the thing, he has the balls to go and put himself out there and take the hits, like we see here on Wogan.
Not only that, he made Wogan look like the nugget that he is.
Imagine the people who never considered any of this info before? Never heard of it? And they are sitting there and then BAM! A light goes off in their heads.
Oh and you see the stupidity that came next on the show? Talking about media whores and the tabloids?
Pfffffffffft. Nuggetry of the highest order.
Thanks for posting that vid Mondaze, much obliged.

[happyexpat]

I would really like to thank Alex Jones for all the people he helps to wake up.

All you can do is hope they keep going and searching and don't just become an Alex Jones sheep after being a mainstream sheep.

Love to all!

[mgray]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_XuQ0Lc3O30

Here is a Sheen/Jones production from 2009. I have trouble embedding video.

[Lord Sidious]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_XuQ0Lc3O30

Here is a Sheen/Jones production from 2009. I have trouble embedding video.

That should work.

[Hybrid5226]

Glenn Beck recognized in Rolling Stone Magazine for ripping off Alex Jones .

FINALLY

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/glenn-becks-shtick-alex-jones-got-there-first-20110304

[bluestflame]

some of the entertainment media are setting the public up to accept charlie sheen dropping dead or self destucting

doing a good job to highlight his mental state ( or steer the perception of it)

they are doing a serious job of undermining his credibility

keeping his twins seperate from him , public reason being concern for thier safety , what's going on behind the scenes ? ( what MK program ?)

[jorr lundstrom]

Radio Galactica refuse to make any comments on homophobics and bipolar issues.

Because than it will beyond all doubt be chystalclear how biased the station is, and that must

be kept a secret. So no comments.:flame::flame::flame:

[Hybrid5226]

Some say Charlie Sheen is doing a Hugh Pattern disruption in Hollywood .

Raining pure hell Charlie is making this into a legal matter with hugh amounts of money involved. This is actually going to have a impact on how things are done in Hollywood.

Think about it . Just about everyone in Hollywood is a drugged out pimped out sold out shell for the almighty dollar .
Mel Gibson, Brittany Spears, Lindsey Lohan ,Robert Downey Jr . Are Charlies new fan club .

How many more actors are thinking what Charlie is saying an jealous that he is saying it .

Producers are Hypocrites . Modeling a show after who Charlie really is making 60 million a year off him while throwing him scraps.

Charlie could be the first one to spill the beans on everyones little secrets maybe.?

Why is a pure trash story interfering with all the major networks? ABC primetime,CNN,20/20 covering a major cocaine use story ? ....WINNING .

[aikisaw]

Glenn Beck recognized in Rolling Stone Magazine for ripping off Alex Jones .

FINALLY

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/glenn-becks-shtick-alex-jones-got-there-first-20110304

Thanks for posting this it is a good article.
Did you read the comments? Wow, almost all backing Jones and his show.

I've listened to both guys. I was at first hopeful that Beck would bring these ideas mainstream. He did that as a form of misinformation, it was disappointing.

I almost dread reading MSM articles about alternative media. They seem to fall into 2 category's hit pieces or misdirect.

This is a fair and truthful analysis of the two hosts. It doesn't get much better than that. The comments section made my day.

[Erin]

Okay, I'm late to the party on this thread, but I have to chime in and say that I got so many laughs from Alex Jones being on The View. Who thought that was a good idea? And every other word was "infowars.com" haha. I loved it. But it was so cringeworthy at the same time. Oh man.

[aikisaw]

Okay, I'm late to the party on this thread, but I have to chime in and say that I got so many laughs from Alex Jones being on The View. Who thought that was a good idea? And every other word was "infowars.com" haha. I loved it. But it was so cringeworthy at the same time. Oh man.

I rather enjoyed it. It was a bad idea from the View perspective. They are used to dealing with people who are intimidated by them. It was a pleasure watching the ladies be uncomfortable. The only way it could have better would have bee if they all got and left the stage like the did with Bill O'Reilly. Could you imagine Alex with an open mike on national TV.

[tkh123186]

Honestly I think that Alex Jones is a disinformation agent working for the PTB.... he refuses to talk about Zionism calling it racism when it has nothing to do with racism. He has never made any documentaries connecting the Israeli Political Agenda and how the U.S. backs them. He is either stupid to believe that Zionism does not exist or he is a disinfo agent trying to keep people in fear. I mean honestly if you listen to his show he sounds like a pastor speaking to his congregation inciting fear of everything in people... I got started in the truth movement by Alex Jones but at this point in time I find him not to be very credible. Alex is being paid to incite and promote fear mongering!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=immer5ru_AE

[Lord Sidious]

Honestly I think that Alex Jones is a disinformation agent working for the PTB.... he refuses to talk about Zionism calling it racism when it has nothing to do with racism. He has never made any documentaries connecting the Israeli Political Agenda and how the U.S. backs them. He is either stupid to believe that Zionism does not exist or he is a disinfo agent trying to keep people in fear. I mean honestly if you listen to his show he sounds like a pastor speaking to his congregation inciting fear of everything in people... I got started in the truth movement by Alex Jones but at this point in time I find him not to be very credible. Alex is being paid to incite and promote fear mongering!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=immer5ru_AE

Alex's wife is jewish, so it is probably a sensitive topic for him.

[tkh123186]

Sensitive or not if he is a true "patriot" and wants what is best for us he can't just turn a blind eye to Zionism. Namely Rothschild Zionism... it seems to me that he is put in place to incite fear as well as make the movement look like a bunch of nutters.

[Lord Sidious]

Sensitive or not if he is a true "patriot" and wants what is best for us he can't just turn a blind eye to Zionism. Namely Rothschild Zionism... it seems to me that he is put in place to incite fear as well as make the movement look like a bunch of nutters.

I agree on your points.
Let us assume that he and his wife are not zionists or globablists and he is what he appears to be.
Jews are very sensitive to anti-semitism as they call it and she would have family that may not appreciate him lighting those fires.

[aikisaw]

Honestly I think that Alex Jones is a disinformation agent working for the PTB.... he refuses to talk about Zionism calling it racism when it has nothing to do with racism. He has never made any documentaries connecting the Israeli Political Agenda and how the U.S. backs them. He is either stupid to believe that Zionism does not exist or he is a disinfo agent trying to keep people in fear. I mean honestly if you listen to his show he sounds like a pastor speaking to his congregation inciting fear of everything in people... I got started in the truth movement by Alex Jones but at this point in time I find him not to be very credible. Alex is being paid to incite and promote fear mongering!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=immer5ru_AE

I think you have a point on the subject Zionism. I do not think of him as disinformation agent. He is painting with a broad brush. I cannot get otherwise intelligent people to look at 9-11 or the federal reserve evidence as fact. How are you going to wake up the MASSES with a anti- zionist campaign?

You said you got started in the Truth Movement by Alex. That is his job, to get you started, then you decide where it goes from there. I do not listen as much as I used to either, that is more because I changed, I do not need the bluster. When I first started waking up, I was so glad he was there yelling everyday.

[cowens66]

I'm a big David Icke fan and if you read his books, not just watch his video interviews, he explains everything that is being discussed here in great depth.

I used to be an Alex Jones fan but stopped listening much because I find him to be a bit homophobic. As a homosexual I am attuned to such things, gay-dar and homophobia-dar (just made that one up:)) are real.

There are many Jewish people speaking out against Rothschild Zionism so I don't really see Alex's wife being Jewish as an excuse to ignore the main point of everything that is ever discussed concerning tptb. This is the elephant in the living room.

I think some of Alex's homophobia comes from the fact that the elite do seem to engage in what appears to be homosexual activity. What many people don't understand is that there is a difference between homosexuality and male dominated sexual abuse.

I'm not down on men, I have many, many wonderful men in my life. What I'm saying is a person who is sexually abusive, usually that happens to be men but definitely not always, will prey on men or woman or both. I think that is the situation with many of the elite. There is more to the story when it comes to the elite. They have esoteric reasons and rituals.
David Icke explains all of that very well too.

jmho Connie

[Lord Sidious]

I don't see his wife being jewish as an excuse.
I think of it like this. I assume that he loves his wife with his whole being. That being the case, he may be reluctant to attack those with whom she shares kinship.
Plus, her own kin may not like it either, so he risks losing her and the children.
Not to mention that it is a no go for media people to point the finger at the zionists.

[aikisaw]

Cowens66

I'm a big David Icke fan and if you read his books, not just watch his video interviews, he explains everything that is being discussed here in great depth.

I used to be an Alex Jones fan but stopped listening much because I find him to be a bit homophobic. As a homosexual I am attuned to such things, gay-dar and homophobia-dar (just made that one up) are real.

I think we put these people though the ringer looking for faults. I don't think we should look at them as though they are writing doctrine or are perfect beings.

Alex does a 3 hour show 5 days a week plus Sunday. He covers diverse topics on a moving playing field. He is entertaining doing it. Perfect no. Much more good than bad.

You can go here for the David Ike debunked thread.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?9107-David-Icke-Debunked-%28Full-Movie%29

I am not as familiar with Ike as I am Alex. Ike has his own flaws as we all do.
Much more good than bad.

You are on your own with the gay-dar. I never heard it, but I wasn't listening for it.

[cowens66]

I think we put these people though the ringer looking for faults. I don't think we should look at them as though they are writing doctrine or are perfect beings.

Hello aikisaw,

I listen to many of "these" people for information, not to put any of them through anything or to expect anything but the truth that I am seeking.

We each get the level of truth that we are ready to assimilate.

When I hear Alex mention that a reporter is buch because she has short hair and say it in a way that is derogatory I am offended as a woman and as a gay woman.

I still read articles on his site and watch his videos occasionally but I disseminate his information through the filter of his apparent homophobia.





I have been to that thread. The thread has been debunked by many, including Bill Ryan.


I am not as familiar with Ike as I am Alex. Ike has his own flaws as we all do.

This is often a problem. I am familiar with David Icke's and Alex Jones' work. I find Alex's work, not Alex Jones ( I don't know the man) to be missing the big picture and possibly tainted by homophobia.

I don't know David Icke either, he could be homophobic for all I know, but it does not show up in his work. He also discusses a much broader range of topics and IMHO is instrumental in bringing the big picture to light.



You are on your own with the gay-dar. I never heard it, but I wasn't listening for it.

It wasn't gay-dar it was homophobia-dar and I wasn't listening for it either. You wouldn't hear it, in most cases, unless your gay, I take it your not.

It is nice to see people from this area of PA starting to awaken. I'm not originally from PA.

Be Well, Connie

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I am realy surprised that AJ did the show considering what the View had to say about Jesse Ventura a little bit ago. The women on the view are washed up with no place to go actresses and TV personalities who get thier information from teleprompters, you can see the amount of investigating they do on the topics, None..someone gives thier opinions to them while they are siting in thier makeup chairs. I'm not surprised whoopie couldn't handle the information, she can't laugh with out squirting you know!

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That's about the strength of it...

cheers

K