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passiglight
28th February 2011, 23:58
Hi folks,, please can someone help me to comprehend the meaning of a line in a NASA statement regarding WISE...

I understand they are talking about the planet named TYCHE which is hypothesized to be in the Oort cloud..

But what i don't understand here is in amongst the list of things they have found,they make 2 references about a "dead star or a Brown dwarf

"So far, the mission's discoveries of previously unknown objects include an ultra-cold star or brown dwarf, 20 comets, 134 near-Earth objects (NEOs), and more than 33,000 asteroids in the main belt between Mars and Jupiter. "

In the first they say it's in the main belt between Mars and Jupiter,, then later they go on to say "The two bands used in the second sky coverage were designed to identify very small, cold stars (or brown dwarfs) -- which are much like planets larger than Jupiter, as Tyche is hypothesized to be. "

hERE IS THE LINK....

http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/WISE/news/wise20110218.html


and here is the full copy of text from that page


http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/WISE/news/wise20110218.html


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Can WISE Find the Hypothetical 'Tyche'?
02.18.11


Background

In November 2010, the scientific journal Icarus published a paper by astrophysicists John Matese and Daniel Whitmire, who proposed the existence of a binary companion to our sun, larger than Jupiter, in the long-hypothesized "Oort cloud" -- a faraway repository of small icy bodies at the edge of our solar system. The researchers use the name "Tyche" for the hypothetical planet. Their paper argues that evidence for the planet would have been recorded by the Wide-field Infrared Survey Explorer (WISE).

WISE is a NASA mission, launched in December 2009, which scanned the entire celestial sky at four infrared wavelengths about 1.5 times. It captured more than 2.7 million images of objects in space, ranging from faraway galaxies to asteroids and comets relatively close to Earth. Recently, WISE completed an extended mission, allowing it to finish a complete scan of the asteroid belt, and two complete scans of the more distant universe, in two infrared bands. So far, the mission's discoveries of previously unknown objects include an ultra-cold star or brown dwarf, 20 comets, 134 near-Earth objects (NEOs), and more than 33,000 asteroids in the main belt between Mars and Jupiter.

Following its successful survey, WISE was put into hibernation in February 2011. Analysis of WISE data continues. A preliminary public release of the first 14 weeks of data is planned for April 2011, and the final release of the full survey is planned for March 2012.

Frequently Asked Questions

Q: When could data from WISE confirm or rule out the existence of the hypothesized planet Tyche?

A: It is too early to know whether WISE data confirms or rules out a large object in the Oort cloud. Analysis over the next couple of years will be needed to determine if WISE has actually detected such a world or not. The first 14 weeks of data, being released in April 2011, are unlikely to be sufficient. The full survey, scheduled for release in March 2012, should provide greater insight. Once the WISE data are fully processed, released and analyzed, the Tyche hypothesis that Matese and Whitmire propose will be tested.

Q: Is it a certainty that WISE would have observed such a planet if it exists?

A: It is likely but not a foregone conclusion that WISE could confirm whether or not Tyche exists. Since WISE surveyed the whole sky once, then covered the entire sky again in two of its infrared bands six months later, WISE would see a change in the apparent position of a large planet body in the Oort cloud over the six-month period. The two bands used in the second sky coverage were designed to identify very small, cold stars (or brown dwarfs) -- which are much like planets larger than Jupiter, as Tyche is hypothesized to be.

Q: If Tyche does exist, why would it have taken so long to find another planet in our solar system?

A: Tyche would be too cold and faint for a visible light telescope to identify. Sensitive infrared telescopes could pick up the glow from such an object, if they looked in the right direction. WISE is a sensitive infrared telescope that looks in all directions.

Q: Why is the hypothesized object dubbed "Tyche," and why choose a Greek name when the names of other planets derive from Roman mythology?

A: In the 1980s, a different companion to the sun was hypothesized. That object, named for the Greek goddess "Nemesis," was proposed to explain periodic mass extinctions on the Earth. Nemesis would have followed a highly elliptical orbit, perturbing comets in the Oort Cloud roughly every 26 million years and sending a shower of comets toward the inner solar system. Some of these comets would have slammed into Earth, causing catastrophic results to life. Recent scientific analysis no longer supports the idea that extinctions on Earth happen at regular, repeating intervals. Thus, the Nemesis hypothesis is no longer needed. However, it is still possible that the sun could have a distant, unseen companion in a more circular orbit with a period of a few million years -- one that would not cause devastating effects to terrestrial life. To distinguish this object from the malevolent "Nemesis," astronomers chose the name of Nemesis's benevolent sister in Greek mythology, "Tyche."

JPL manages and operates the Wide-field Infrared Survey Explorer for NASA's Science Mission Directorate, Washington. The principal investigator, Edward Wright, is at UCLA. The mission was competitively selected under NASA's Explorers Program managed by the Goddard Space Flight Center, Greenbelt, Md. The science instrument was built by the Space Dynamics Laboratory, Logan, Utah, and the spacecraft was built by Ball Aerospace & Technologies Corp., Boulder, Colo. Science operations and data processing take place at the Infrared Processing and Analysis Center at the California Institute of Technology in Pasadena. Caltech manages JPL for NASA. More information is online at http://www.nasa.gov/wise, http://wise.astro.ucla.edu and http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/wise .


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I realise the point of this text is to explore the possibility of tyche and could WISE have found it,in the Oort cloud,,,,,,

BUT THIS ????????


So far, the mission's discoveries of previously unknown objects include an ultra-cold star or brown dwarf, 20 comets, 134 near-Earth objects (NEOs), and more than 33,000 asteroids in the main belt between Mars and Jupiter.


i just couldn't believe my eyes when they mentioned they have found a brown dwarf, inbetween mars and jupiter,,,,,,,because surley that must be Nibiru,, or Planet X, they are talking about !!!!


Please can someone with good cosmic knowledge look at this text and explain for me

Teakai
1st March 2011, 00:24
Hi Passiglight, I'm crap at NASA speak - but check this out:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMuO2cKfHI4

buckminster fuller
1st March 2011, 00:38
Quite staggering indeed... Anyone with knowledge in this field ?

passiglight
1st March 2011, 16:43
hhhhmmmmm,,, not sure what to make of your clip there teakai,,, very interesting

Still needing those in the know to take a look at this statement from nasa,,,,,,,,plllllease

passiglight
1st March 2011, 16:57
Now i'm quite convinced they have let something slip in the above article as they have not mentioned the brown dwarf here.........


http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/WISE/news/wise20110201.html

Even though they reference nearly all the same objects as described in the previous statement above,, but without the comment about the brown dwarf

AHH my apologise the above comments are about NEOWISE !!

beyondmyctrl
1st March 2011, 17:11
it doesn't say that they found a brown dwarf between mars and jupiter, it says that the mission found a number of things, then it lists them , and that list includes, 33,000 asteroids in the belt between mars and jupiter.