View Full Version : E.coli found on 50% of shopping carts
Calz
1st March 2011, 18:06
Gosh ... if it is in MSM it must be true ... right???
Who knows anymore ... but worth considering ... particularly if you have a family?
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/41838546/ns/health-kids_and_parenting/
king anthony
1st March 2011, 21:37
Has it not been said (in point only), human beings come from the dirt and shall return to the dirt!? Have human beings not survived prior to knowing these things!? Fear 'neighbors', over sterilize everything, drink the water given and question not - why?
pyrangello
1st March 2011, 22:36
They did a study here in michigan a few years back, and yep shopping carts seats came in #2 on the ecoli king , stores do pressure wash their carts during certain times of the year but if you put your bread on the seat , then put your bread on your kitchen counter , well your figuring it out now. But #1 on the ecoli list was ...............wait...................wait.......................... the movie chair at the theatre!!!! Don't ask me why, maybe lots of reasons. Just be aware that using antibacteria soap is not good for you as it stops your body from fighting germs on a daily basis, it basically interupts a good working system and thats you. Do your internet search and see for yourself! Now with all being said , did anything really change in your life? Your still here, I'm still here and we all are doing fine. This is just a good footnote for future reference and maybe not put your raw vegetables on the shopping cart seat.smile it's all good !!
bitworm
1st March 2011, 23:49
Unless you live in a bubble house(Northern Exposure), you'll never go through a single day free of E. coli. We used them regularly for experiments in Micro lab 1st year. Healthy humans have plenty of natural defense against them on the outside of our bodies; just don't eat too many of them or get them wet. Something about finding them makes people listen up when it is on the news though.
We also did random swabs of various surfaces grew cultures. The really nasty stuff is on the doorknobs and sinks.
DeDukshyn
2nd March 2011, 00:01
Gosh ... if it is in MSM it must be true ... right???
Who knows anymore ... but worth considering ... particularly if you have a family?
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/41838546/ns/health-kids_and_parenting/
If germs were actually as dangerous as we have been led to believe I would be concerned. But that is not the case. We have immune systems for a reason, all sickness comes from states of mind, not germs. Ever noticed how extremely loving and chronically happy people (not yo-yo-happy people of course!) get sick far less? There's a connection. From my experience, ever since I stopped worrying about anything "dirty" I am much happier and healthier - reinforcing the fact (at least for me) that health is just as much a state of mind as happiness is. My two cents. (please consider that you body has more bacteria in and on it than it does human cells - and no you are not "infected" - your body harvests these for extremely useful and important functions and one of those is <drum rolll> Immune system - go figure!
Koyaanisqatsi
2nd March 2011, 00:29
Funny- I've been going to the grocer for 20+ years and I've never had e coli. Think I'll find something that truly affects my life in a negative way before i get all scared and germophobic, msm wants us to believe death and disease is around every corner, a fearful populace consumes and does not question. I won't be that, ever.
witchy1
2nd March 2011, 00:33
Yeeeeeeeeeeeewwwwwwwwwwwwwwww. Just remember E-coli originally comes from only one place - yes thats right - your bowel. I dont mind regular bugs like staph etc thats normal body flora. This IS NOT normal body flora. It can live for short periods outside the body. It belongs from whence it came - it generally does good things like producing Vit. K in the bowel
When environmentalist test for feacal contamination they are in fact testing for E-Coli. Some strains can make you very very sick.
People do not wash hands after going to the loo. (or scratching etc) Totally Gross
DeDukshyn
2nd March 2011, 00:49
Funny- I've been going to the grocer for 20+ years and I've never had e coli. Think I'll find something that truly affects my life in a negative way before i get all scared and germophobic, msm wants us to believe death and disease is around every corner, a fearful populace consumes and does not question. I won't be that, ever.
Exactly, they (the "evil" powers that be) don't even need to poison us with stuff (although they do), they can just do a bunch of scary news reports and rates of sickness will increase. Your subconscious doesn't make judgments about "correctness" -it accepts what it is exposed to at face value, this subconscious then subtly feeds your consciousness that influence both your body specifically and your decisions; and because you are constantly exposed to that bacteria anyway through "shopping carts" completion the cycle of thought into form can be accomplished . Why do think large corperations spend BILLIONS - extremely large percentage of profit always goes back into media? Because this is true.
UPDATE! made it more clear
witchy1
2nd March 2011, 01:04
I am not suggesting that we become germaphobes - we live in perfect harmony usually with our little germ buddies. They do us good, fighting off the nasty ones. E-coli on the outside of the body should not be there. There can be only one way it gets to outside objects including food, trolleys, theatre seats, door knobs etc - hello! Mostly its fine but there are a few very nasty strains.
What I am promoting is that people wash their hands after voiding or changing nappies / diapers........... Basic Health 101. Kids who ride up front on the grocery carts and then put their fingers in their mouths........ they really dont need that exposure.
Virulent strains of E. coli can cause gastroenteritis (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gastroenteritis), urinary tract infections (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urinary_tract_infection), and neonatal (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neonatal) meningitis (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meningitis). In rarer cases, virulent strains are also responsible for haemolytic-uremic syndrome (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haemolytic-uremic_syndrome), peritonitis (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peritonitis), mastitis (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mastitis), septicaemia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Septicaemia) and Gram-negative pneumonia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pneumonia). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Escherichia_coli.
DeDukshyn
2nd March 2011, 01:18
I am not suggesting that we become germaphobes - we live in perfect harmony usually with our little germ buddies. They do us good, fighting off the nasty ones. E-coli on the outside of the body should not be there. There can be only one way it gets to outside objects including food, trolleys, theatre seats, door knobs etc - hello! Mostly its fine but there are a few very nasty strains.
What I am promoting is that people wash their hands after voiding or changing nappies / diapers........... Basic Health 101. Kids who ride up front on the grocery carts and then put their fingers in their mouths........ they really dont need that exposure.
Virulent strains of E. coli can cause gastroenteritis (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gastroenteritis), urinary tract infections (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urinary_tract_infection), and neonatal (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neonatal) meningitis (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meningitis). In rarer cases, virulent strains are also responsible for haemolytic-uremic syndrome (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haemolytic-uremic_syndrome), peritonitis (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peritonitis), mastitis (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mastitis), septicaemia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Septicaemia) and Gram-negative pneumonia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pneumonia). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Escherichia_coli.
I will 100% advocate washing your hands after any type of potential exposure ;-) And, I will also advocate to use regular soap- not that hadrcore anti-bacterial stuff - that simply makes stronger germs.
And virulent strains of E.coli may cause those diseases, yes. But your immune system will determine whether it happens or not, and influence how severe it is, in what I have come to know anyway; Your mind really is quite powerful ..
conk
2nd March 2011, 19:53
Has it not been said (in point only), human beings come from the dirt and shall return to the dirt!? Have human beings not survived prior to knowing these things!? Fear 'neighbors', over sterilize everything, drink the water given and question not - why?
No, humans are made of light, not dirt! The dust to dust lie is perpetuated by organized religion to make us feel afraid and worthless. Point taken about excess cleanliness though. Kids who play outside in the dirt have stronger immune systems.
Don't use the shopping cart 'baby basket'. Little tykes often have poop diapers and may foul the little sitting area. A possible source of e coli. I always get a wet wipe (most grocerys offer them at the entrance) and wipe down the handle of the cart.
king anthony
2nd March 2011, 20:11
No, humans are made of light, not dirt! The dust to dust lie is perpetuated by organized religion to make us feel afraid and worthless.
Is not the need for human beings to have greater purpose base on need!? Has not the human species created beliefs, faiths, institutions and sides to have belonging!?
Many, including them, have deceived the species in many ways - can a moth attract a candle as the candle attracts the moth!?
Is not to understand the species, aided by what the ancients knew!? Is not the need of the many greater then acceptance of fact!? I say, to fulfill need is a luxury most enjoy; however, the few cannot have.
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