Four symbols

[jorr lundstrom]

Four symbols



The cup: You got it from a woman who loves you



The sword: You win it in fight or you earn it through hard work



The wand: You cut it in a forrest you have never been in



The coin: You have to create it yourself



About the sword I would like to say you have to earn it one way or another,



you cant borrow it. The sword from the Lady in the Lake is of no use.

[modwiz]

(Sigh) Oh those broken cups.

[Maria Stade]

(Sigh) Oh those broken cups.

Oh dear :girl_cray3:

[Icecold]

LMAO at Maria.

**** happens.

[Maria Stade]

LMAO at Maria.

**** happens.
:becky: Lol couldnt help my self !

Your welcome

All Love

[TigerLilly]

(Sigh) Oh those broken cups.

Choose carefully, the wrong cup can kill you!
(wasn't that in an Indiana jones movie)

China too delicate
Pottery too homely
Gold, pretty but can get bent out of shape
Go for wood, the beauty increases with age and handling.;)

[jorr lundstrom]

Did You really read wot I wrote about the cup?:hug:

[TigerLilly]

Sorry distracted by Modwiz's post!

[firstlook]

Ive always wanted to delve into the Aurthur material, but have never found the chance. Seems like very enlightening symbolism and allegories through this story.

[jorr lundstrom]

Ok Ahkenaten. First a little about my background to doing this. Yesterday I found that one man asked me about symbols and their meaning in a

way that traditionally cannot be asked. And then I saw your confusion when it comes to some symbols. During the ages knowledge has been

kept hidden of different reasons. Knowledge is power, and some has kept knowledge hidden so they has been able to use their knowledge

in the enslavement of others. But there has also those that has hid their knowledge because they have seen how danderous

it is in the hands of humans without proper preparations. As you dont give a machinegun to a four year old child. But today we are on this

planet in a new situation that demands new ways of handling things. Many humans today experience a rising of the kundalini without

any preparations. Many experience this as a curse and not the blessing it could be if they had been prepared. And this makes it necessary

to bring them the information they should traditionally have got beforehand, afterwards instead.

And if they dont learn this they will for ever walk around repeating love and light as a mantra and never realize that it takes a little

more to survive and live in 3D on this planet. And now Im gonna write about those four symbols. If something is not clear, please send me a

PM anytime and Ill see if I can explain in an other way.

[Belle]

Jorr, please continue. I have recently experienced what I was told was kundalini rising. No explanation. No help. I would love to know more.

[Rocky_Shorz]

hmmm so no need to recover the Templar treasures in MN...

they are of no use...

thanks Jorr

[jorr lundstrom]

The Cup. First I will say a little about wot the cup is not.

Its not a symbol of a woman in the play between man and woman in this context, at least not

in the play between man and woman in 3D. I wrote from the beginning that you got it from a woman.

I suppose very few noticed.

It means you already got it. It is your body, your physical body. It is your body as a container, the raw body.

The materia your body is build from.

I also wrote: a woman who loves you. You got your body from your mother, and she loves you.

Your mothers physical body is composed of the materia of this planet.

It is composed of Gaias materia and is an expression of Gaia. And Gaia certainly loves you.

And now back to whereI started. Your body is a woman, every human body is a woman.

Both men and women walks around in bodies that is actually of woman nature.

And the body is woman in the play with its masculine counterpart, spirit.

So this cup is something that you can see as an expression of your body.

A picture of your body. If you establish a connection between a cup and

your body you can get to a point where you realize that the cup actually is your body,

a mirror of your body.

Something you can use in a way that influences your body. The possibilities are infinite.

And now a short break for some coffe and lurking. Ill be bach her a little later. Love

[Maria Stade]

Jorr, please continue. I have recently experienced what I was told was kundalini rising. No explanation. No help. I would love to know more.

Dear Belle do look in to my threads you can find them on my page !

They are all connected to this to !

If you have big problems do pm me, and I will do my best to help you !

You need to ground your self so I point you at the thread that I called -Our energy body # 25

All Love

Maria

[jorr lundstrom]

The sword: This is the spirit, dwelling in your body.

The sword is a symbol of your ability to divide. Its a prerequisite for an ability to discern, to

make decisions, to choose and more.

Its also the channel for wisdom from source.

Its the masculine counterpart to the cup, the body.

And of course you can use your sword to extend your will

quite a distance from your body.

Its possible to stay alive without the sword but its not possible

to have a life worth living without it.

You get your sword through hard laybor, a struggle with forces that stand in your way and

hinder your growth. Or through fighting forcefully with those forces.

In the Arthurian myths there are two famous swords, Arthurs own that he drew from

the stone and the sword from the Lady in the lake.

His own sword was nesessary for his whole mission.

The other sword was probably very beautiful but was of no use when it was really needed.

When it was really needed the Lady in the Lake said: I want my sword back. It was based on

feeling. Always relay on your own sword, never a borrowed one.

[Newlyn]

I'm interested in the sword. I've been thinking a lot about the power of a aword lately, and that have helped me.

Love!

[Ahkenaten]

OK, Jorr. I am with you so far, though as we know the meanings of ALL symbols are multi-layered. There is one mundane meaning, and others as one goes down the rabbit hole. Oops, there is that pesky carrot again, luring us down the rabbit hole. But you get what I mean.

NEXT?

[jjl]

to me the sword usually refers to challenges to our ego. Do we stand up for ourselves? Is this and old issue? are we too argumentative? For me, the symbols need to be in a pattern for me to thoroughly translate them

[jorr lundstrom]

OK, Jorr. I am with you so far, though as we know the meanings of ALL symbols are multi-layered. There is one mundane meaning, and others as one goes down the rabbit hole. Oops, there is that pesky carrot again, luring us down the rabbit hole. But you get what I mean.

NEXT?

Ok, good. Yes the meaning is multilayered. And there is nothing right and wrong in the symbols. Its all a question of how they are used,


and in wot purpose. Just as those letters that I use to communicate wot Im writing now. Everything comes down to purpose.

And now, over to the next symbol. love

[Ahkenaten]

OK....................................but I thought you said that symbol was coins?

i.e. the symbols you mentioned in your poem were CUPS, WANDS, SWORDS and COINS.

[johnf]

I thought you were on sword? I get the experience and effective habits forged out of that experience.
This is an awesome subject.

[TigerLilly]

The sword: BRB

You have lost me, what does BRB mean?

Isn't the coin love?

[Newlyn]

Love is our sword! yesyesyes ;)

[Ahkenaten]

Huh?????? .........................

[witchy1]

You have lost me, what does BRB mean? Hahaha - Be Right Back. You might also see AFK - Away from keyboard

[Maria Stade]

Love is our sword! yesyesyes ;)

Yeaaaaaaaa :luv::man_in_love::dance3:

The greatest of them all ! Ha ha ha

[Newlyn]

It's getting to late for me. God natt, my friends!

:sleep:

[jorr lundstrom]

OK....................................but I thought you said that symbol was coins?

i.e. the symbols you mentioned in your poem were CUPS, WANDS, SWORDS and COINS.

I dont understand wot you say here about coins. Love


Be back in 15 hrs

[Ahkenaten]

OK....................................but I thought you said that symbol was coins?

i.e. the symbols you mentioned in your poem were CUPS, WANDS, SWORDS and COINS.

I dont understand wot you say here about coins. Love




Be back in 15 hrs


sorry I missed that you posted swords...........so is swords the symbol of love? I had thought coins was. Anyway - NEXT (wands, right?)

[jorr lundstrom]

OK....................................but I thought you said that symbol was coins?

i.e. the symbols you mentioned in your poem were CUPS, WANDS, SWORDS and COINS.

I dont understand wot you say here about coins. Love


Be back in 15 hrs


sorry I missed that you posted swords...........so is swords the symbol of love? I had thought coins was. Anyway - NEXT (wands, right?)




Dear Ahkenaten:


I didnt say swords is the symbol of love, nor did I say coins is.

I think its those people who is mad from love sees love everywhere.

Like men who havent been close to a woman in a looooooooooong

time starts to see women everywhere.:whoo:

[jorr lundstrom]

The wand: The wand is the symbol of your power.

Power meaning the amount and quality ofthe energy surrounding us,

the part of this you can handle is often refered to as your personal power.

Of course this energy or power isnt yours or anyone elses.

Its a part of consiousness and will always be.

But if you can move it, increase or decrease the amount or compress or dilute,

it its refered to as your power.

The wand or in some cases the magic wand could be made out of a lot of different trees or bushes,

like oak,ashtree, yew and even holly.

There is one other that is very useful if you want to use the wand for protection,

too.

But that one you have to find out for yourself,

because I dont want the wrong people to know what they will

encounter if they should get the idea to attack. But it is indeed effective.

You cut the wand in a forrest where you have never been.

It means that when you cut it, you cant bring your ego,

the part you just imagine yourself to be,

but actually never have been and sure never will be.

[Ahkenaten]

The wand is also a symbol of male sexual power, not to state the obvious, whereas the Cup..............well. Anyway thank you, NOW do we get to the crux of the matter, the COIN.....................................

Symbols

Jorr Tarot Deck

cup Cup
sword Sword
wand Wand
coin Pentacles

[Maria Stade]

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[jorr lundstrom]

The coin: The coin you have to create youself.

The coin is the symbol of your world, your own world.

Your parents and other people gave your their descriptions of their own

worlds. Its wot you have to begin with. And you have to live with it until you learn

how to experience for yourself and to realize that your own experiences are your

own and what others taught you have no value in your world, more than as a hint.

You have to erase other peoples truths from your world and look for your self.

And you have to nourish and protect your world.

You have to stand up for your world and speak from it.

Actually you have nothing else.

[Lifesong]

Bravo!

Thanks, Jorr. This is a great message in a fun, learning atmosphere.

:)

[Newlyn]

Is there something here I just don't understand? Where is the sword? Did you scip it or am I blind?

[jorr lundstrom]

Is there something here I just don't understand? Where is the sword? Did you scip it or am I blind?

You scared the sh#t out of me. I thought someone had stolen the sword. LOL

Try #15 Love and carrots on me

[Newlyn]

Haha now I see! I was truly blind! xD

Right.. Good. I was writing a post while you posted and somehow I missed it.

Cheers :)

[Newlyn]

By the way, I'm thinking of composing a poem on this thread.

Bard's hat on!