The spy who hated Wikileaks (at Cambridge University Union)

[Jean-Luc]

Although anyone can have mixed feelings with respect to Wikileaks in general, this talk from former head of MI6, the British Secret Intelligence Service, held recently at Cambridge University, ... captured/sneaked by "Love Police Intelligence" Charlie Veitch, and posted today, is quite interesting.

In particular the way he "answers" questions from a courageous 911 truther at 16:39 onwards.

Enjoy!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUGryC9iJfg&feature=channel_video_title

N.B Link to Downing Street Memos: http://downingstreetmemo.com/ handed out at the start of the video.

[iceman]

thank you so much for shareing
great video

[buckminster fuller]

Still, this puppet got more applauses from students than this courageous (and gorgeous..) girl at the end. Those are the soon to be elite in old britanny. Not a good sign.

[Jean-Luc]

It is indeed appaling yet not surprising.

This basically reflects the level of awareness/awakening of these youngsters / so-called elite who live in self-denial

... and in the "Don't dare talking about these things" mode.

[slipknotted]

aasange is nominated for the noble peace prize !

[Fred259]

Wikileaks founder Julian Assange is a Rothschild puppet, so why is Annie Machon promoting Wickileaks?


Wikileaks founder Julian Assange has won an award from The Economist magazine, a financial publication controlled by the Rothschild banking family; and he has also featured on an Economist video clip, raising questions about conflicts of interest. Assange predicted a bank run could be triggered by bank data leaks; but he does not mention that this would result in the robbery of millions of people because of the way the fractional reserve banking system works, and profit the banks.

Is a false flag bank run hyped by the bankers’ media – and carried out by a Rothschild operative – being planned, to rob millions and to implement emergency laws?

Julian Assange, the Wikileaks founder who plans to leak bank documents that will take down “one or two” major banks, according to Forbes magazine, has won an award from The Economist, a magazine belonging to the Economist Group – half of which is owned by the Financial Times, a subsidiary of Pearson PLC [London-based: the world's largest education company and largest book publisher – and longtime majority stakeholder in Lazard Brothers merchant bankers]; the rest is owned by a group of independent shareholders, including many members of the staff and the Rothschild banking family of England.

The Economist is owned by members of the Rothschild banking family of England. It is run by the Economist Group, a known CIA front.

http://www.infowars.com/rothschild-and-c...orshipers/

Here is would seem Greek blogger Vicky Chrysou found that Assange won an Economist Censorship Index Award in 2008.

http://vickytoxotis.blogspot.com/2010/11...leaks.html

Assange’s close links to perhaps the world’s leading financial publication, which has consistently given misinformation about the eurozone and bank bailout, are underlined by a recent video interview he held with The Economist magazine.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=E_HPLHIBTtA

Assange has not only won awards from the Rothschild banking family’s financial publications; he also won an award from Amnesty International, which works closely with the UN, itself associated with the IMF and World Bank profiting politically and financially from the gigantic national debts saddled on countries by banks, with the help of blackmailed politicians. One only has to look at Francis Maude to get an idea of what is really going on.

Assange’s latest Wikileaks have been hyped by the mainstream media around the world as a major diplomatic row and destabilising factor, in spite of the fact that they are largely trivial gossip and news items that are in alignment with the Globalists’ goals.

If Assange were a real activist, he would not be getting any coverage from the mainstream media, let alone so many headlines every day in every well-known corporate media outlet. If he was serious with his intentions he would have news feed into UK Column for example, but I suppose we don’t matter in the big scale of things.

The alleged hide and seek between Assange and the US government as well as Interpol is played out on the theatrical stage of the world’s media - when it is well known the US government and Interpol can arrest anyone they want virtually any time they want, given their immense resources. Why haven’t the CIA picked him up and sent the scoundrel to Guantanamo Bay. After all he is trying to destroy the US government.

The Economist and FT were also among the corporate media that consistently hyped the swine flu pandemic and the need for vaccines last April, while blocking information about the incident where Baxter contaminated 72 kilos of seasonal flu vaccine with the bird flu virus in its biosecurity level 3 labs – virtually ruling out an accident – and so nearly triggered a global bird flu pandemic.

This media group has also consistently given misinformation about the current financial crisis and how it is being engineered by the banks to rob people, using the fractional reserve banking system.

Vienna University of Economics Professor Franz Hörmann explained how “banks create money out of air” in a model for fraud, in an interview with Der Standard recently. Hörmann has also said that current economic theory is “political propaganda.” But the Economist Group and IMF spout this propaganda all the time for the profit of the banks.

A bank run would result in the loss of people’s money, savings, and investments so bringing ruin to millions of people – but this is what Assange wants, because that is what will happen, as anyone with a basic knowledge of economics knows. The fractional reserve banking system means that the money or capital people put in the bank does not need to be in their account: capital can be spread all over the bank’s activities, locked in bonds and shares. Governments have very limited guarantees for deposits.

If the bankers can engineer a bank run, it will be the ordinary people who are robbed once more. Assange goes along with the propaganda that banks have capital in the banks – not fractional reserve digits.

Expect the corporate media to hype Assange’s bank data leaks and hype the disaster – and so help the banks justify bringing down the shutters and ruining millions if not billions of people in the process, in a crash as devastating as 1931.

The media hyped the mild swine flu into a pandemic – and they can hype a few extra withdrawals into a bank stampede as well – unless we take action and demand that financial services scrutinise all withdrawals.

Because the euro is crumbling faster than expected, the bankers are desperate to institute some form of emergency law or martial law – and a false flag bank run initiated by their operative Assange and hyped by their media would suit their plans perfectly.

His irresponsible actions that could destroy the world’s economy in a financial Pearl Harbor – also on December 7th, the date set for another irresponsible bank run – certainly are those of an operative working for the banks; and may even be on the orders of the Rothschilds directly, given Assange’s close links to The Economist. His task is to destroy the financial system before the eurozone fragments, allowing countries potentially to restore their own currencies and regain their sovereignty.

His gigantic financial crime is also designed to discredit the alternative media and investigative journalists – and so give a chance to close websites and steer people back into the mainstream media.
Accusations of a sordid rape are also designed to discredit investigative journalists in the eyes of the public.

Help spread this news: a false flag bank run hyped by the media is being planned by a Rothschild operative – and it will result in the robbery of millions of people. Get financial regulators and the police to scrutinize all financial transactions and stop banks declaring themselves broke artificially, thereby robbing customers.

http://birdflu666.wordpress.com/2010/12/...ng-family/


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Is this women making a disgrace of herself?



http://vimeo.com/17605748

1) Is this counter subversion exposing the democratically elected government of wrongdoings? In so doing her paymasters benefits does he not.

2) She says that’s Wickileaks are independent but she fails to answer the reporters question about Israel for example. When did we last have a Wickileaks on Israel?

3) Joe Liebermann Interview. Speaks negatively of Wickileaks. Lieberman is a Rothschild puppet, what he is doing here is promoting Wickileaks as the peoples friend.

4) On the question about the US state department asking staff to spy on the UN she changes the subject and starts talking about a case involving a GCHQ employee.

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Wikileaks Is A Rothschild Operation: Rothschilds Use Wikileaks To Wound Rival Bank, Julian Assange’s Bail Posted By Rothschilds’ Sister-in-law,

After being made famous, Julian Assange’s first task is to wound a rival bank of the Rothschild Bank in Switzerland. The rival is Bank Julius Baer, the top Swiss bank for centuries: the competing Rothschild Bank opened in Switzerland in 1968.

On January 17, 2011, Assange held a press conference at the Frontline Club where Rudolf Elmer, a former employee of Bank Julius Baer, gave Assange private files from the bank’s Cayman Islands’ operation. Elmer said he wanted to expose mass tax evasion before he flies back to Switzerland to stand trial for stealing information from a bank. Although Elmer has not named the tax evaders, he claims the CD files contain information about 40 politicians, many business people, multinational conglomerates and “people who have made their living in the arts.”

Wikileaks' leader Julian Assange accepts a CD from Rudolph Elmer which reveals tax evasion by wealthy clients of Swiss Bank Julius Baer, a rival of the Rothschild Bank in Switzerland.

Rothschilds’ Swiss Bank Battles: Assange’s press conference was actually a public threat to Bank Julius Baer: Wikileaks first disclosed some of Elmer’s Julius Baer material in 2008, naming ten clients. At the time, Julius Baer sued and got a court injunction to effectively shut down Wikileaks.org at its web host in California. Subsequently, the law firm Fox Rothschild represented Wikileaks, got the injunction overturned, and got Wikileaks.org back online. Immediately, WL commenced leaking more of Elmer’s documents, which was damaging to Bank Julius Baer.

Bank JB got a lot of negative publicity from its attempt to censor the Internet. When JB lost the suit, their super-elite clients became fearful of being exposed and prosecuted for tax evasion and money laundering. Julius Baer shares dropped 60% during the next ten months. On Dec. 4, 2008, the 52-year-old CEO of Julius Baer, Alex Widmer, was unexpectedly found dead.How much more proof do you need?

“He was the most important person in private banking,” said a Zurich-based trader.

“This is a setback for the bank (Julius Baer),” a Swiss trading analyst said.

Reports of the cause of death were contradictory and vague, and an autopsy was never released.

Wikileaks’ many other links to Rothschilds

The recent imprisonment of Wikileaks’ Julian Assange strains credulity. His arrest by Interpol and his incarceration under draconian conditions for breaking a condom are in themselves highly unlikely events; but the timing of his imprisonment with the release of classified US cables and the campaign against Wikileaks’ funding and website host bear the trademarks of a covert operation.

What links exist between Wikileaks and the international Rothschild network:

- a sister-in-law and second cousin of the Rothschilds posted bail for Julian Assange

- The Economist (a Rothschild magazine) gave Assange its New Media Award in 2008

- Wikileaks used the law firm Fox Rothschild to overturn a judge’s ruling to order a web host to shut down the Wikileaks site

- The Guardian and The New York Times, two of Assange’s media partners, are linked to the Rothschilds.

- The owner of the mansion where Assange was eventually put under house arrest has links to Rothschilds.

- Assange’s lawyer is also Rothschilds’ lawyer.


- US Senator Joe Lieberman, who was ultimately responsible for making Assange the largest media personality of the decade, is a member of the

The Rothschilds are an international family of bankers at the centre of a web of wealthy families who control most of the countries through a worldwide network of: privately-owned central banks (masquerading as federal banks), major news chains, trusts, councils, etcetera.

An unnamed source has put their monetary worth near $100 trillion—dwarfing the net worth of the likes of Warren Buffett, Bill Gates, Ted Turner, etc.]

The Goldsmith Connection, Zionists and the Conservative party.

Socialite, heiress Jemima Khan (nee Goldsmith) posted £20 000 pounds for the bail of Wikileaks’ leader Julian Assange. She’s genetically related to the Rothschilds and she is a sister-in-law (Daily Mail Online, 10 May 2010). Her father, the late James Goldsmith - British banker, publisher - is a cousin to the Rothschilds. James’ grandfather Adolphe Goldschmidt came to London as a multi-millionaire in 1895 and changed the family name from the German Goldschmidt to the English Goldsmith. The Goldschmidts, like their neighbors and relatives the Rothschilds, had been prosperous merchant bankers in Frankfurt, Germany since the 16th century.

Following the Rothschilds' centuries-old edict to interbreed, Jemima Khan’s brother, Ben, wed Kate Rothschild in 2003; and recently, her other brother, Zac, a new MP in the British parliament, had been having an affair with his brother’s sister-in-law, Alice Rothschild (Kate’s sister), up until he divorced his wife four days after he was elected MP. Zac and Alice are presently living together. Khan’s brothers are marrying into Rothschild wealth.

The Rothschilds began grooming Julian Assange in 2008, when Wikileaks was awarded The Economist’s New Media Award. The Economist is the voice of Britain’s establishment (led by the British Rothschilds) which has, for example, on balance, supported Britain’s involvement in the Iraq war.

Sir Evelyn Robert Adrian de Rothschild was chairman of The Economist from 1972 to 1989.
His wife Lynn Forester de Rothschild currently sits on The Economist’s board.The Rothschild family also has a large shareholder interest in The Economist.

At first blush, it is incredible that the The Economist, the pinnacle of the establishment, would give their award to Assange - knowing full well that he was releasing classified government documents, and being acutely aware of the havoc this would create in the world.

The Rothschilds’ oft-stated goal (over the centuries) is for a One World Government (i.e. the New World Order). To this end, they engineer conflict between nations, to create crises that will then be utilized to increase the power of international entities – the UN, World Bank, IMF, etcetera. For example, they (and other closely-related families like the Schiffs) financed the Bolsheviks [and, through other channels, financed the Nazis]. In the past, the Rothschild empire has profited by bankrolling both sides of war.

US senator Joe Lieberman is the Rothschilds' point man in America. During the last presidential election, he took his friend, Republican candidate John McCain, to Jacob Rothschild’s house for a fund-raiser for McCain. Lieberman is a member of the Council on Foreign Relations (a Rothschild cabal which is essentially the shadow government of the US).


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GczCf1SxpEw&feature=related


This video is clear evidence of Rothschild trying to destabilise America.



Lieberman’s recent actions resulted in cutting off the money supply of Wikileaks: Paypal, Mastercard, Visa, stopped accepting donations for Wikileaks. Lieberman publicly took credit for censoring Wikileaks’ website by pressuring Amazon to stop hosting the website. The result was that Anonymous hacktivists launched attacks on the websites of companies (above) which had discontinued service to Wikileaks. Lieberman’s campaign against Wikileaks had the effect of increasing the martyrdom and hence the popularity of Assange and Wikileaks. Lieberman made Assange a star; Assange nearly became Time magazine’s Man of the Year.

Julian Assange’s lawyer is Mark Stephens of Finers Stephens Innocent, a major London elite law firm. They are the legal adviser to the Rothschilds' prestigious Waddesdon Trust.

Assange’s main media partner is The Guardian. The Guardian has been infiltrated by Rothschilds. The Guardian is controlled by Guardian Media Group, whose chairman is Paul Myners, a past employee of N M Rothschild & Sons Limited. Guardian Media Group is owned by the Scott Trust, which became a limited private company in 2008, with all trustees becoming directors of the Scott Trust. Anthony Salz was appointed as a trustee of the Scott Trust in 2009; he is currently executive vice-chairman of the investment bank Rothschild.

Salz is also a director of New Media Trust along with the Subversive Julia Middelton,the CEO of Common Purpose a money laundering organisation masquerading as a charity.

The Guardian gave the US cables to The New York Times. The chairman of the NYT is Arthur Sulzberger Jr., a member of the Council on Foreign Relations. He is the son of Arthur Ochs Sulzberger and grandson of Arthur Hays Sulzberger who served as a Trustee for the Rockefeller Foundation (in cahoots with Rothschilds for One World Government).

After a time in a real prison, Assange was “imprisoned” in a countryside mansion at the home of Vaughan Smith, the owner of Frontline Trust, a news organization that seeks to influence TV journalists.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WaoWdZMpNsI&feature=related

Frontline is funded by George Soros’ organization, Open Society Institute, and George Soros is intimately intertwined with the Rothschilds. George Soros has been a frequent business partner with James Goldsmith (father of Jemima Khan and cousin of the Rothschilds). The director of Soros’ Open Society Institute, Richard Katz, was director of N M Rothschild & Sons for 16 years. Other board members like Nils Taube also hold positions in Rothschild banks, etcetera. On July 27, 2010, and again on October 25, 2010, Assange was a speaker at Vaughan Smith’s Frontline Trust.

Most people seem to believe that current events just happen, that events in the news are chain reactions of accidents, and that people with money and power sit idly by, watching events unfold. However, the Rothschilds thrive on manipulating the markets by having insider information while propagating contrary misinformation. In this way, they make huge profits. Assange has already said that damaging information on one US bank will be released. In this fragile recovery, the crisis could be pivotal. The Guardian and The New York Times have this information; so it is available to Rothschilds in order to “short” the bank before the information is released. Wikileaks is an invaluable tool for the Rothschilds to manipulate the financial markets, the whole monetary system, the future of nations, and the public.

The information (or misinformation) from Wikileaks also serves the Rothschilds' aim to increase conflict among nations in order to further their goal of One World Government.


Is Annie Machon working for Rothschild I wonder…………

[king anthony]

Is it not within each to be able to surface what is beneath!? Cannot each play their part in exposure and transparency!? As those who brought forth this material, so can everyone. In order for truth to be made known, it may be needed that everyone contribute, giving each purpose.

Ask, why does each feel the need to live in secret and hide themselves; for the answer will expose what is. Who will benefit and what will be achieved if all contribute!? I say, look into the mirror and ask yourself - 'who am I', for the answer to tomorrow lies within. Only those with limits will sit and watch at best.

[sunflower]

Hi Fred, your post presents pertinent information that rounds out what we know about Julian and his backers.... Thanks for the references in your report. Will follow up. There never seems to be enough time or motivation (sometimes) to connect all the dots...

[king anthony]

...the level of awareness/awakening of these youngsters / so-called elite who live in self-denial...

It began when the few wanted more, when both women and men became equal in their contributions to the few. The parent raised the children, while the flesh and blood stood back giving what the other could not. From this time onward, youth have been guided through education, peer pressure, media, breeding, additives and division. A blank canvas can only have what is put on it - is it not the responsibility of 'age' to paint the picture!?

[Jean-Luc]

Jean Luc, thanks for posting this is a very interesting video. I don’t share your point of view. ]

Well, thanks for this detailed analysis which I actually by and large agree with.

Hence me starting my post with “Although anyone can have mixed feelings with respect to Wikileaks” (innuendo: I am one of those to have in fact VERY mixed feelings: I don’t support Wikileaks even if it also brings some valuable information… as any well designed (and in this case very sophisticated) disinformation campaign.

To me, right from the start there has been two red flags about Wikileaks. The most important one has been Assange’s position on 911 (basically stating that there was nothing at stake there and that all this was just conspiration theories). Second: his extensive, easy and even exclusive access to some major media. Just too nice to be true.
So don’t take me wrong. To me the real merit of this video is to show officials double speech on very serious matters having affected the life of millions of people in the Middle East.

About Annie’s position on Wikileaks: Well, I think this RT video dates back from July 2010. She probably would have another opinion today. Suffice to ask her…

For the rest, the overall position of the 911 Truth movement (of which I am an active member since 2006 with my website in French http://vigli.org and close links with http://reopen911.info) is to state that the official story is bogus and that a true criminal and foresinc investigation is required. Only fools accuse “the government”. Remember the great testimonial of the US Secretary of Transport (honest) vis-a-vis Dick Cheney (… not so honest to put it mildly). Etc…. etc….

(P.S. I’ll be offline for the coming days, so won’t be able to further argue. But there is probably no need to either.)

[Fred259]

Jean Luc, if you want to know the 9/11 story read Book 1 of this report. Then it will become clear why a few blame the Muslims, many blame the Israelis, others blame the government, and all these disinformation agents are paid to keep everyone away from the truth which is that 9/11 was a “cover up” job by Wall Street, Swiss & German Bankers and the “invisible government” who destroyed the buildings and the Navy office in the Pentagon covering up for the most humongous financial crimes committed daily by these bas*****

After you have completed book one you will understand why they need a full time disinformation agents!

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?12470-Misconceptions-About-911

[mrmalco]

Still, this puppet got more applauses from students than this courageous (and gorgeous..) girl at the end. Those are the soon to be elite in old britanny. Not a good sign.

Being at Cambridge doesn't, so far as I know, get one to be elite.
Great video moment though when the girl took him on - he was livid.
Not used to being contradicted and challenged.

[Lord Sidious]

I wish I could get hold of the nuggets that made the vid.
The music is too overpowering at the start to hear comments near the cameraman.
I have heard so far, references to fractional reserve banking and maritime (admiralty) law.
I wish we knew what else was going on before hand.

As we would expect, this slug from MI6 (SIS) is very good with what are known as ''buzzwords'' and their use to acheive his ends.

Anyways, if you guys wanna be free, act it.
Like this young woman, GET OUT THERE, PUT THESE SLUGS IN THE LIGHT.

Thanks Jean-Luc, I appreciate you posting it.

[Rufs]

Very interesting Thread Jean-Luc, you know Cambridge Uni is one of the recruiting "places of interest" for the UK intelligence system - home turf you might say. He looked nervous the whole time - poor bloke. It must be a real shock to the old guard, there so desperately "hanging on" - Bravo to all involved, an eye opening display of the mentality's involved. Next week lets have Donald Rumsfeld :)

Many thanks!! Rufs

[learninglight]

Wow...thank you so much for sharing

[modwiz]

Great Post Fred. I consider you one of the great treasures here at Avalon.

[buckminster fuller]

Fred,

thanks for sharing your views and data. I personally think that some of it is biased. Have no time to go over that much info right now but will do in the near future. All I want to say now is that I think you have quite a nationalist point of view, which is of course ok for you to have, but I don't share it. "Nations" are the works of the very people you think Assange works for. So far the result of his actions are pretty much positive to me. What happens in Egypt, Tunisia and now Lybia is I think correlated to it. The eastern world is done playing big brother and giving lessons to others. This guy from the MI6 is a front end puppet, no doubt about it. It is not like the "shadow government" has no ties with the actual one.

Back later


Peace

[Fred259]

Although anyone can have mixed feelings with respect to Wikileaks in general, this talk from former head of MI6, the British Secret Intelligence Service, held recently at Cambridge University, ... captured/sneaked by "Love Police Intelligence" Charlie Veitch, and posted today, is quite interesting.

In particular the way he "answers" questions from a courageous 911 truther at 16:39 onwards.

Enjoy!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUGryC9iJfg&feature=channel_video_title

N.B Link to Downing Street Memos: http://downingstreetmemo.com/ handed out at the start of the video.

I prepared this response for an English website and have decided to post it here as well, it does reflect the situation in UK but will equally apply in the US Canada and Australia.


Sir Richard Dearlove Head of MI6 lectures at Cambridge University.

This is a very interesting video. It was filmed by Charlie Veitch from the Love Police covertly during a debate at Cambridge University. If you don’t know Charlie Veitch Google Love Police and you will see him in action.

The video is a lecture given by Sir Richard Dearlove who was head of MI6 during the time of 9/11 and the Iraq Invasion.

His talk at the University is on Wickileaks.

Remember this is Sir Richard Dearlove head of MI6 during the period that included 9/11 and the Iraq Invasion. The students are on average lets say aged twenty three, so ten years ago they would be around thirteen years old. At aged thirteen they would not be able to form a sensible opinion in general regarding the rights and wrongs of the case.

Over the last decade however as they have matured and as developments in Iraq have progressed towards the apocalyptic conclusion that was inevasible, the kids who are now students have formed an opinion that Iraq was wrong and that the Government are lying and above all are not to be trusted.

The head of MI6 arrives to give a lecture and they all have pre conceived ideas and opinions about this man. Charlie Veitch, and only Charlie would do this is hiding in the attic filming the lecture. Charlie edits the video and gives it the title “the Spy who hated Wickileaks” again conforming deep mistrust about this man.

During his presentation Dearlove is very clear and forthright about the position of Wickileaks. This organisation he says has no purpose and structure and is counter productive to the security of the United Kingdom.

The man is right. Dearlove is head of MI6, and he will know precisely what is going on and as a senior civil servant he I have to say has immense responsibility on his shoulders. But above all he is right.

The students and Charlie Veitch don’t believe him because they (righty) see the events in Iraq as wrong. The students are also right in principal but are unaware of the bigger picture. The students don’t connect with the real situation and circumstances of the war.

Here is an extract from the Dearlove submission to the Iraq inquiry, where he clearly lays out the intelligence provided to the prime minister and the president:

“Shipster’s ( a local MI6 agent) precious haul of intelligence was passed immediately, by February, to Washington. Everyone “at the top” knew all about it – he and Tenet [CIA chief], Blair, Bush, and Cheney.”“Why risk such a dangerous mission at the eleventh hour? According to Dearlove, it was an ‘attempt to try, as it were, I’d say, to diffuse the whole situation”

“Dearlove apparently travelled to Washington to brief the Americans personally on what the head of Iraqi intelligence had told Shipster about Iraq’s non-existent WMD. Tenet’s intuition was that they wouldn’t want to hear this ‘downtown’. He was right, it seems. Dearlove summarised the response in his ‘conversation’ with Suskind in this way”

“The problem was the Cheney crowd was in too much of a hurry, really. Bush never resisted them quite strongly enough … Yes, it was probably too late, I imagine for Cheney … I’m not sure it was too late for Bush … I don’t think it was too late for Bush.”http://www.iraqinquirydigest.org/?p=8446

It’s clear now from the evidence given by the head of MI6 that Saddam didn’t have WMD and that Dearlove himself travelled to Washington telling Bush & Blair precisely that. Furthermore the UN chief weapons inspector Hans Blix said the same, again both with Blair and Bush. Blix then retied and has not been since.

This extract shows that the intelligence from Iraq prior to the war was correct, that Dearlove briefed both the prime minister and the president, and that not only was he being truthful, but he was also being truthful under his oath to protect the best interests of the United Kingdom militarily and strategically at all times.

This extract proves that Tony Blair and George Bush went ahead and prosecuted an attack on a foreign nation despite the best intelligence from MI6 namely that the case for War based on WMD was bogus.

Sir Richard Dearlove Head of MI6 has not put a foot wrong.

The students however don’t believe Dearlove because as previously mentioned they are unaware of the full facts. Equally the students view on the invasion is that’s its clearly wrong. How could this be they say?

It’s not the government who are lying it’s the prime minister and elements within the House of Commons and the cabinet office who have been subverted by the banking & military industrial complex or the “invisible government” who were in favour of invasion.


Supporting this subversion is Wickileaks who are exposing the government for wrongdoings, in an attempt to bring down the United Kingdom Government.

The students see Wickileaks as exposing government crime, such as illegal invasions. No the loyal government under people like Dearlove have been overruled by the subverted government and individuals like Blair and Campbell who supported the war.

Blair and Campbell were working for the “invisible government” and Wickileaks is the channel used by the invisible government to destroy the loyal government.

I think this is very important, because many accuse us of being extremist and "anti government". This is not the case, we are “Pro Government”, we want strong loyal honest government. The problem is that we end up with are politicians who are controlled by the “invisible” government. Mr Nicholas Clegg would be a prime example.

*** The situation in the United States and Canada is just the same sadly. Subversion is subversion it applies around the world.

The problem in the UK is tha pro Marxist subversive organisation Common Purpose. This organisation has destroyed the country.

The problem in the US is the Senior Executive Service, these people have been ideologically subverted to destroy America and every aspect of US society.

What worries me about the States is this video by Yuri Bezmanov who describes the destruction of America. Bezmanov defected to the US and here he talks to G Edward Griffin in and around the 1980s I think.

Its hard to date but Griffin is wearing purple pants (trousers) so hang on guys no self respecting women would let her husband go out on the street today wearing Purple Pants for goodness sake!. So when were purple pants in fashion ? I think it was the early 1980s 30 years ago…I reckon Modwiz and Paul the Mod had purple pants and remember we had shirts with flowers on for guys ! and the shirts has rounded collars. It was around that time when Led Zeppelin wrote “stairway to heaven” and another cool dude at that time was Peter Frampton. And we had Jane Fonda ! Here you go; here is “Jimmy Page” wearing a flowery shirt…..wow.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugxFcmZXDyc&feature=related

So it in the days when flowery shirts were all the rage that Yuri Bezmanov recorded this video with Ed Griffin on Subversion of the America at MIT I think. My point is that he said that America was totally subverted THEN and would collapse, and so that was the early 1980s and so all that really remains is who will fall first the UK or the US. Its sad…

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2307456730142665916#

Cut this to your desktop, and catch up later. It should be mandatory viewing for every American school kid.


Not a bad post this, even though I say so myself, we’ve managed to get a cross section of society into this thread with Sir Richard Dearlove the Head of MI6,and the Corporation of London, Jimmy Page and his flowery shirt and “Stairway to Heaven” and to top it all the man himself Yuri Bezmanov former KGB intelligence agent who defected to the west from India in the 1960s disguised as a hippie, and into the hands of the CIA in Athens, before being given a new life in the West. He must be around 80 now and lives in Los Angeles. A truly wonderfully man..

[Fred259]

Fred,

thanks for sharing your views and data. I personally think that some of it is biased. Have no time to go over that much info right now but will do in the near future. All I want to say now is that I think you have quite a nationalist point of view, which is of course ok for you to have, but I don't share it. "Nations" are the works of the very people you think Assange works for. So far the result of his actions are pretty much positive to me. What happens in Egypt, Tunisia and now Lybia is I think correlated to it. The eastern world is done playing big brother and giving lessons to others. This guy from the MI6 is a front end puppet, no doubt about it. It is not like the "shadow government" has no ties with the actual one.

Back later


Peace

Absolutely Buckminster Fuller, of course I’m a nationalist, do you expect me to be a globalist!

No Assange is working for Rothschild and the New World Order “the invisible government”

The New World order are destabilising the United Kingdom and the United States, and Rothschild and his Wickileaks subversion tool is destroying Britain so that we will be forced into joining the EUSSR an apocalyptic nightmare. Even now they want to change the name of the English Channel and call it the Channel Sea instead. Everything about England and Britain must be destroyed. The same process is happening in the US with the North American Union. So yes I want to see a strong England and a strong Britain. But I am not English Im Scottish, this don’t matter we are all British.

Sir Richard Dearlove is the former head of MI6. His job is to defend Britain from any enemy who may seek to destroy the country. That enemy at the moment is the New World Order, Rothschild and his Wickileaks organisation. This is why they is exposing the UK and US governments because this is his goal, One World Order.

You call him a front end puppet, for what may I ask. Britain has no imperialistic ambitions we are bankrupt now just like the US. We have no Navy, where is he to be a front end puppet.

What is happened in the Middle Eastern states is the destabilisation of those states by the New World Order, the invisible government. Rothschild wants to destroy Libya and Syria because they are one of the 5 nations I the world who don’t have the Zionist Rothschild controlled central Bank. Libya also has oil and uranium that he wants to steal from the Libyan people.

Many of the problems in the world today are caused by the Zionist controlled UK and US governments who run around the world doing the dirty work for the New World Order.

The problem can be traced back to 1942, when you were occupied by the Nazi federalists and Europe was being torn apart by the same federalists or globalists as we call them today. During this period of European history the RAF were struggling to overcome the German Luftwaffe, and at the same time liberate you in France.

After Pearl Harbour the United States Air Force arrived and Britain en masse and this then enabled both the RAF and the USAF to commence an “around the clock” aerial bombardment of the German military industrial complex.

Key targets in this illumination process were iron, steel and coke foundries, together with transport, communications and infrastructure. By 1944 the Fuehrer and his federalists realised that this war was unwinnable and so the very same federalists who sat around the table with the Fuehrer “slipped” over the border into Switzerland a neutral country.

Later they regrouped and in 1947 they signed the Montreux agreement. This agreement paved the way for modern day United Nations. This was followed by Bretton Woods and now 60 years later the federalists are back again with the same proposal for a Pan European Superstate or EUSSR.

The situation today is more complex when compared with the 1940s for we have allowed this repugnant organisation namely the United Nations to gain prominence.

This now means that while we in Britain have a problem dealing with the Fabian Marxist in Brussels and Strasbourg, our allies in the United States also have as a consequence of the United Nations, the same Fabian Marxists residing in and around 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, Washington, District of Columbia.

In addition a black man born and raised in Mombasa, Kenya, East Africa, and as such a British Citizen is currently masquerading as the 44th President of the United States of America, and if this does not prove too you that the subversion by the Globalist New World Order the “invisible government” has destroyed both Britain and America then nothing will.

[Tangri]

Fred239
I couldn't agree more with you.
But I was careful not to touch some area
Especially 2- and 3- are very sensitive/hot and potentially close call to be labelled as an antisemitic.
Every body ready to blame governments but not willing to look backstage. Governments are temporary and they don't need to know details , they have to show their loyalties.

[Lord Sidious]

The man is right. Dearlove is head of MI6, and he will know precisely what is going on and as a senior civil servant he I have to say has immense responsibility on his shoulders. But above all he is right.

Sir Richard Dearlove Head of MI6 has not put a foot wrong.

It’s not the government who are lying it’s the prime minister and elements within the House of Commons and the cabinet office who have been subverted by the banking & military industrial complex or the “invisible government” who were in favour of invasion.

The problem in the UK is tha pro Marxist subversive organisation Common Purpose. This organisation has destroyed the country.

The problem in the US is the Senior Executive Service, these people have been ideologically subverted to destroy America and every aspect of US society.

What worries me about the States is this video by Yuri Bezmanov who describes the destruction of America. Bezmanov defected to the US and here he talks to G Edward Griffin in and around the 1980s I think.

So it in the days when flowery shirts were all the rage that Yuri Bezmanov recorded this video with Ed Griffin on Subversion of the America at MIT I think. My point is that he said that America was totally subverted THEN and would collapse, and so that was the early 1980s and so all that really remains is who will fall first the UK or the US. Its sad…

Some excellent points there Fred, great work.
You are probably correct about the spook, he may be in the right, but I never trust spooks.

I am also glad to see you speaking about common purpose. They are far more dangerous than people realise. Most have never heard of them. They are conditioning peoples minds, even as you read these words.
I would urge readers to google them if you are not aware of who and what they are.
They are also in Eire.

America was subverted many, many years ago. Never forget that lenin had major support from America.


Fred239
I couldn't agree more with you.
But I was careful not to touch some area
Especially 2- and 3- are very sensitive/hot and potentially close call to be labelled as an antisemitic.
Every body ready to blame governments but not willing to look backstage. Governments are temporary and they don't need to know details , they have to show their loyalties.

Why would the criticism be anti-jewish?
If we criticise the british government or blair, how come we don't get the finger pointed at us for that?
When you answer that question, you will see the game for what it is.
By the way, fear not, we are going to free the jews from the paradigm of ''anti-semitism'' even with them kicking and screaming.
They will be better for it.

[John101]

Yeah Brian Gerrish has been exposing comon purpose for quite some time now.

I first learnt of them a couple of year ago from Albert Burgess, another true patriot.

[Corncrake]

Thanks - in particular to Fred - for this very clear and informative thread. So good to read something like this after all the other stuff that has been going on in other parts of the forum. I don't agree with all of it but am now going to sign off and do some googling - never heard of Common Purpose!

[Fred259]

Fred239
I couldn't agree more with you.
But I was careful not to touch some area
Especially 2- and 3- are very sensitive/hot and potentially close call to be labelled as an antisemitic.
Every body ready to blame governments but not willing to look backstage. Governments are temporary and they don't need to know details , they have to show their loyalties.


Lavent Tonga, thank you for your post. I must however take issue with your comments.

You say you need to careful not to touch “some areas” and that these areas in your view are a close call to be labeled anti-Semitic.

For the avoidance of doubt this word “anti-Semitic” is a new word that has no understanding with me. It’s a word crafted and created by the Zionist Rothschild to mean different things on different days. You don’t need to be careful in some areas as you put, it’s perfectible acceptable to be critical of Zionism, Rothschild and the State of Israel. Equally praise should be offered where praise is due.

What I think you are eluding is that it’s necessary to be careful with criticism of those who are of the Jewish faith. I would agree. You must at all times be very careful not to be critical of the Jews for this would be racist. The same applies with all other faiths as well.
Racism will not be tolerated.

It’s important not to confuse religion with state, or extremists associated with that state.

So Lavent Tonga, please stand tall push your chest out, clean your head and speak with a clear mind. If you do not; then are a controlled man. You are not a controlled man, you are a free man so speak your free mind. If you do not, then they are controlling you.

[mrmalco]

Thanks Fred for that earlier analysis of Dearlove's situation. No wonder he was so angry. Opened a new door in the mind it has.

[Lord Sidious]

Fred239
I couldn't agree more with you.
But I was careful not to touch some area
Especially 2- and 3- are very sensitive/hot and potentially close call to be labelled as an antisemitic.
Every body ready to blame governments but not willing to look backstage. Governments are temporary and they don't need to know details , they have to show their loyalties.


Lavent Tonga, thank you for your post. I must however take issue with your comments.

You say you need to careful not to touch “some areas” and that these areas in your view are a close call to be labeled anti-Semitic.

For the avoidance of doubt this word “anti-Semitic” is a new word that has no understanding with me. It’s a word crafted and created by the Zionist Rothschild to mean different things on different days. You don’t need to be careful in some areas as you put, it’s perfectible acceptable to be critical of Zionism, Rothschild and the State of Israel. Equally praise should be offered where praise is due.

What I think you are eluding is that it’s necessary to be careful with criticism of those who are of the Jewish faith. I would agree. You must at all times be very careful not to be critical of the Jews for this would be racist. The same applies with all other faiths as well.
Racism will not be tolerated.

It’s important not to confuse religion with state, or extremists associated with that state.

So Lavent Tonga, please stand tall push your chest out, clean your head and speak with a clear mind. If you do not; then are a controlled man. You are not a controlled man, you are a free man so speak your free mind. If you do not, then they are controlling you.

I disagree.
So what if someone is going to call me a name because I point out something nasty about their religion or ethnic group?
That is life, if we can't take criticism, how do we handle the ebbs and flows of life?
It is ok to criticise islam and christianity, but watch what happens if you do that to judaism.
My belief is that if you can point out something and it is true, then that says more about the namecallers than the messenger.
Tell it like it is and to hell with political correctness and all other forms of thought/mind control.

[Fred259]

Thanks - in particular to Fred - for this very clear and informative thread. So good to read something like this after all the other stuff that has been going on in other parts of the forum. I don't agree with all of it but am now going to sign off and do some googling - never heard of Common Purpose!

If you haven’t heard of Common Purpose you must do so today. It’s a matter of urgency.

Common Purpose are very active in Britain, and also have influence and by that I mean offices and staff in the United States, Canada, India South Africa and Hong Kong.

This is the website of Common Purpose.

www.commonpurpose.org.uk

Three down on a Google search engine you will find CP Exposed.

http://cpexposed.com/

or

www.ukcolumn.org

Common Purpose have trained 20,000 so called “graduates” who are not real graduates you understand they are “change agents” or in the words of the CEO Julia Middleton “usefull idiots” who will be in place to govern Britain during again in the words of Ms Middleton “the post democratic era”

Don’t worry about this because I can assure you with very good authority that many senior and capable military personnel are now and have in the past “asking questions” before going away pondering, and returning with “ yet more questions” regarding precisely what is going on within this organisation.

Common Purpose now have subverted key people in place within key positions of every sphere in government including the civil service, local councils, the NHS and MOD, who subvert democracy and destroy society.

If you are in Britain and wonder where David Cameron’s “Big Society” came from, the answer is Common Purpose. So who is controlling David Cameron then? Common Purpose of Course. So does this mean that Common Purpose are in control of the UK? Yes of course.

Common Purpose is a front for the Rothschild crime family, who seek to impose a brutal dictatorship on the citizens of the United Kingdom.

Julia Francis Middleton (nee Morland) is CEO of this repugnant organisation who steal from the British taxpayer hundreds of millions each years from Councils and government bodies all under the guise of leadership training. These leaders are of course the people who will govern in the so called post democratic era, according to them.

The money stolen from the British People is then money laundered through a company called Civilia and is used for funding the destruction of the next country namely Canada.

The subversive Julia Francis Middleton is the former Editor of “Marxism Today” and is also responsible for the establishment in London of the think tank “Demos”, which is funded by the Rockefeller Brother Fund. Demos are an infestation of Fabian Marxists all dancing to the tune of the paymaster.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4e7U2jl2RZY

In this video David Willets a British MP gives presents a paper at the Fabian Marxist think tank Demos. What’s is so serious about this is that twenty years ago David Willets was part of the right wing group who secured four conservative general election victories in a row, and it was Willets who was part of the “ No turning back group” and the “ Clear Blue Water” policies between the Conservative party and the Labour party.

This gives a strong indication of how the party and government in the UK has been controlled and subverted, and if for just one moment you doubt what I am saying, since when in the English Alphabet has the letter O had a dot in it replicating the “all seeing eye”.

If you’re in Britain I seriously urge you to research this parasite organisation, and please do not be fooled that they are all about training business leaders, for my 15 year old son has received training from Common Purpose at his school to “reframe his thinking” and to teach our children a “different concept” These teaching methods have links to NLP training and supports much of the work of the Tavistock Institute.

I strongly urge all parents in the UK, ask your son or daughter if you could have a look at your child’s school books, in his or her school bag and you may get a shock. I guarantee you won’t be looking far before you find books on homosexuality, abortion, euthanasia and a multitude of subjects all from the teachings of the man himself Karl Marx.

Action Canada.

That’s it’s name, they called it that I just typed it.! Seriously you Canadian folks get this poison out of your society and Harper and Maurice Strong into Jail.

A $3-million investment over three years in Action Canada will boost its significant private sector support to offer young Canadians a concentrated leadership program.

Action Canada's goal is to identify and nurture future leaders for Canada while promoting the active participation of young Canadians, from various disciplinary backgrounds, in the renewal of ideas and the building of our country. Participants learn and interact with current leaders in government, business, NGOs, and academia, and undertake public policy projects of significance to Canada.

Action Canada develops innovative and high-quality research on key public policy issues. It fosters the creation of leadership networks spanning the diversity of the country and the development of a renewed spirit of collaboration among the public, private, and voluntary/non-governmental organization sectors. The program is open to Canadians under the age of 30.

http://www.pch.gc.ca/pc-ch/infoCntr/cdm-mc/index-eng.cfm?action=doc&DocIDCd=CJM091543

http://www.actioncanada.ca/en/


http://www.actioncanada.ca/en/fellows/fellows/20102011-fellows/


America.

Common Purpose is prevalent within your “Senior Executive Service” where they control the US government. All these problems need to be dealt with, however I would respectfully suggest as previously posted that the removal of a Kenyan with a British Passport from 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue Washington DC may be a priority before worrying about the SES. It’s your call folks!

[Tangri]

Fred239
I couldn't agree more with you.
But I was careful not to touch some area
Especially 2- and 3- are very sensitive/hot and potentially close call to be labelled as an antisemitic.
Every body ready to blame governments but not willing to look backstage. Governments are temporary and they don't need to know details , they have to show their loyalties.


Lavent Tonga, thank you for your post. I must however take issue with your comments.

You say you need to careful not to touch “some areas” and that these areas in your view are a close call to be labeled anti-Semitic.

For the avoidance of doubt this word “anti-Semitic” is a new word that has no understanding with me. It’s a word crafted and created by the Zionist Rothschild to mean different things on different days. You don’t need to be careful in some areas as you put, it’s perfectible acceptable to be critical of Zionism, Rothschild and the State of Israel. Equally praise should be offered where praise is due.

What I think you are eluding is that it’s necessary to be careful with criticism of those who are of the Jewish faith. I would agree. You must at all times be very careful not to be critical of the Jews for this would be racist. The same applies with all other faiths as well.
Racism will not be tolerated.

It’s important not to confuse religion with state, or extremists associated with that state.

So Lavent Tonga, please stand tall push your chest out, clean your head and speak with a clear mind. If you do not; then are a controlled man. You are not a controlled man, you are a free man so speak your free mind. If you do not, then they are controlling you.

Hello Fred259 ,

We are not thinking different. My problem is, my government put some law out there with the name of "Hate crime". It can go to court or Hospital management, depends on the trackers.
I had a conversation with same topic at my working environment . It turned ugly against me .

[Lord Sidious]

That sounds about right.
Sorry to hear of your problems LT.

[shybastid]

Lord Sidious.. When I read that quote about watching out for antisemitism phraseology,I too was a little insensed. We are an equal constructive criticism group here. No one get's away from what is the truth based on color or religion.

I don't see racism or religous preferentional treatment here at all. I just don't.

I don't think we have to "watch"it. Not logical.

On a side note... If Kerry was around with the Round Table people,I want to point out that I was the guy that kept bringing in the firewood to keep them warm. A little less important..but I had value nonetheless.
I checked.
On that note..being the firebug that I am.. I was also the first person to light a lighter at a concert,and hold it up for an encore.
No really. I'm THAT guy.(lies)
I'm never in the limelight,but always around the fire holding the flame. Watching and listening. :tongue1:

[Jean-Luc]

On December 19, this article from the Examiner was clearly accusing the whole Wikileaks to be Psyop.

Capt. Hanley's '911 Inside job-No Muslims' shows WikiLeaks Psyop


http://www.examiner.com/human-rights-in-national/capt-hanley-s-911-inside-job-no-muslims-shows-wikileaks-psyop?cid=parsely#parsely#ixzz1GUuAMZj9

"Collectively, we will prevail and, in doing so, will share in making our planet earth a more peaceful and prosperous habitation this holiday season and beyond for ALL...and not just the few greedy corporate and government mobsters of Wall Street and K-Street!" - Captain Dan Hanley

_____________________________________

Peace to all Peoples of Goodwill

That 911 was an inside job and no Muslims were involved reached the global stage Sunday, despite WikiLeaks' Julian Assange's denial and "anger" about these facts. On Sunday, the "inside job-no Muslims involved' announcement made by the Captain Daniel Hanley and Whistleblowing Airline Employees Association, debunked Bush and Obama administrations' justifications for the so-called War on Terror and subsequent ongoing human rights violations of Muslims, other Targeted Individuals globally and all citizens.

Julian Assange has claimed being angered by 911 facts and has consistently dismissed these facts that expose the bogus "War on Terror" causing the very suffering his "leaks" expose. It is the "911 Big Lie," as expressed by veterans and a host of other national leaders Thursday in Washington DC, that is causing Muslims and Targeted Individuals to be persecuted, tortured and murdered and all citizens' rights to be violated at U.S. airports when radiated or sexually assaulted. (Note: the writer's related online article, Airline security: More hardware, less privacy, same high-level racket is not accessible on the internet)

Despite the WikiLeaks modified limited hangout strategy, Sunday's announcement by International Public Spokesperson for Whistleblowing Airline Employees Association squarely places on the global stage the 9/11 inside job and no Muslims involved in the U.S. attacks on September 11, 2001.

Unlike their hoopla over Mr. Assange, corporate government and its mainstream media have consistently suppressed Captain Dan Hanley: stonewalled and silenced in his attempts to leak life-saving facts to the public. (See FAA and TSA whostleblower suppression and stonewalling breaches human rights and national security, Dupré, D., Examiner, Jan. 28, 2010) Hanley has been genuinely targeted in such extremes that he put out a call late November that his life was in "imminent danger," a prominent whistlblower's call that mainstream news somehow missed.

Continue reading on Examiner.com: Capt. Hanley's '911 Inside job-No Muslims' shows WikiLeaks Psyop - National Human Rights | Examiner.com http://www.examiner.com/human-rights-in-national/capt-hanley-s-911-inside-job-no-muslims-shows-wikileaks-psyop?cid=parsely#parsely#ixzz1GUv8aqDD



Sadly Whisleblower Capt. Dan Hanley has now gone missing for the last 3 weeks and all his web contacts completely wiped out.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?16221-Dan-Hanley-Head-of-the-Whistleblowing-Airline-Employees-Association-Goes-Missing&p=173742&viewfull=1#post173742