New Research: 8000 IUs of vitamin D daily

[Jonathon]

http://www.naturalnews.com/031577_vitamin_D_scientific_research.html

Excerpt:

"We found that daily intakes of vitamin D by adults in the range of 4,000 to 8,000 IU [international units] are needed to maintain blood levels of vitamin D metabolites in the range needed to reduce by about half the risk of several diseases -- breast cancer, colon cancer, multiple sclerosis and type 1 diabetes," said Dr. Cedric Garland. (http://health.ucsd.edu/news/2011/02...)

Dr. Garland is the professor of family and preventive medicine at the UC San Diego Moores Cancer Center. He went on to say:

"I was surprised to find that the intakes required to maintain vitamin D status for disease prevention were so high -- much higher than the minimal intake of vitamin D of 400 IU/day that was needed to defeat rickets in the 20th century."

[Koyaanisqatsi]

Get some sun people! maybe dairy isn't so bad for you after all?

[Ammit]

I take it this is vit D3!!

Blessings

Ammit

[conk]

Get some sun people! maybe dairy isn't so bad for you after all?

Depends on the kind of dairy. Processed dairy/milk is dead food and has no place at the human table. Raw dairy/butter/milk is a wonderfully healing food. If you were implying that the Vitamin D in milk is beneficial, it's not. The producers add the inferior D2, rather than D3. ;)

[Shelltower]

Yes!!! After listening to Bills interview with Gabriele Stahler....I started taking quite alot of D3...
like betweem 24,000 and 40,000 a day...an endocriniologist that I just happend to be interviewing
with asked if
she could take my labs as she was "so worried " about my Calcium levels....they came back normal but she was soo adament i was overdosing...and so I mentioned to her, how can I overdose when... if I
go out into the Sun and produce 20,000 IU's in 15 minutes....how can what Im taking prove detrimental?
Calcium CALCIFIES! Take magnesium for strong bones......
David WOlfe is quite knowledable on this topic......
Happy D3 to those who are taking it!!!!!

[sunflower]

Thanks Jonathan, we will increase our dosage though not up to those levels just yet. We'd rather do things gradually. I think this report has high credibility though.

[humanalien]

Thank you

I just read that at alex jones site.
I'm going to start taking my D3

[Flash]

Get some sun people! maybe dairy isn't so bad for you after all?

Arizona! Arizona!
The place where old nordic snowbirds have their winters! Guess why! No sun where they come from!
Please, think of it, we are bound to the bottle 6 months a year (boose or D3) to keep warm or healthy.

[scott12133]

Makes me wonder why they push the sunscreen so much, hummmmmm.:rolleyes:

[astrid]

D3 is an amazing anti-depressant, esp in winter.
For all that haven't see Bills interview with Gabriele Stähler , its here....


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HH1rB-Ya2UQ

[witchy1]

Makes me wonder why they push the sunscreen so much, hummmmmm

Do you think it might be because it has nanoparticles in it? Or maybe those with the cancer council logo have a vested interested in promoting the product????

[Muzz]

Makes me wonder why they push the sunscreen so much, hummmmmm.:rolleyes:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?13393-Top-Model-says-sun-lotion-is-poison

Damn! There must be an up side to living in Scotland! :rolleyes: Im currently googling " secret health benefits of constant rain". :cool: Maybe gray skies and drizzle is the key.

[conk]

The further people are from the equator (more sun) the higher the incidences of MS and many other dis-eases.

And as someone mentioned, magnesium is critical as well. so many take supplemental calcium not knowing they are damaging the body. We need D, K, potassium, and magnesium to properly utilize calcium. Otherwise calcification of the body is the result, a major cause of death and dis-ease. We must use caution and education when supplementing with stand alone nutrients. We need whole, food based nutrients, in full compliment.

[kersley]

Get some sun people! maybe dairy isn't so bad for you after all?

Errrr Where is the sun? That's why i take my 2 x 1000iu every day.. ha ha

[Painted_White]

I've just started on 10,000iu in 2x 5000iu doses per day in rainy southern England.

It's only been two days so far but I'm hoping to see some positive benefits soon.

Interesting research.

It does seem a shame that we're having to pop pills, even nutritional ones, just to maintain health. But hey ho.

Will be and am growing lots of fruit and veg this year so hope to get more from nature.

[Gardener]

Sun screen........read the label, probably causes more cancer than sun burn.
Sun..................no problem just don't burn.
Vit D3..............Take at least 4000iu unless you are in the sun when it isn't required.

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[Painted_White]

Sun screen........read the label, probably causes more cancer than sun burn.
Sun..................no problem just don't burn.
Vit D3..............Take at least 4000iu unless you are in the sun when it isn't required.

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I agree wholeheartedly.

[sunnydaze]

I have been taking vitamin D3 5000iu a day for over a year now and giving it to my kids (teens) and we have had far less colds and flu than in previous years.

[Painted_White]

That's good to hear.

It's the winter months over here that seem to bring with them the most susceptibility to flu and cold like viruses.

My wife and I both had the dreaded swine flu this winter past no less than three times in a row, within the space of a month and a half. It was not fun.

I've been drawing some conclusions of my own regarding the relationship between the lack of sunlight due to overcast days in the winter and illness.

I surmise that lack of sunlight may have more to do with the propensity towards more frequent winter infections in many than the moist, damp, centrally heated conditions that germ theory suggests.

[conk]

Let's not forget that the benefits of sunshine go far beyond vitamin D. The sun imparts tremendous energy into plants and animals. It is the life force of the solar system. We need it on our skin and in our eyes. Don't wear sunglasses, except in the most extreme conditions. Also, after exposure to the sun do not wash or bath for around 20 or 30 minutes. The vitamin D is created on the skin and it will wash off if not given enough time to be absorbed.

[Arrowwind]

I have been a stong vitamin D3 advocate for a long time.. when I first found out I was depeted my D3 level was 29, with the standard normal being 35 at the time. My doctor started me supplementing with 2,000 iu of a fish oil vitamin D3 complex daily. After 2 months I was rechecked and my level had not budged a single point. She wanted me to double the dose but I took it into my own hands, did some research, attended a seminar and got some new points of view. Since then they raised the base normal to a level of 50. (which I feel may still be inadequate when dealing with chronic disease)

I started supplementing with D3 50,000 IU, two tabs a day for a week.. I gradually decreased it over the next week. then went to 10,000 for a week or two before I got rechecked. My level was then 130. This was the week that my psoriasis went away by about 70 to 80%. I didnt have a very bad case.. but there none the less.


My doctor then told me that she was not concered about my 130 level..as new information was coming out that it was not dangeorus.
I went onto a maintence dose of 5,000 IU a day.. once a month I take a 50,000 IU also. This keeps my levels around 70 to 80.
Since I have a history of cancer in my distand past and a predisposition to arthritis and psoriasis this is where I like to keep things.

I have had to ramp up two times to the very high dosages to fully eliminate the psoriasis.. If my levels start to drop then it starts to reappear..70 to 80 is where I need to be.

This is the brand that I have tested on myself and clients...it is highly effective.. Biotec D3. Vitadaly brand is the same in a different package and slighly less expensive
http://www.vitalady.com/cgi-bin/commerce.cgi (http://www.vitalady.com/cgi-bin/commerce.cgi)

Please be aware that middle age and older folks can be qutie low. I have tested people, great out of doors people who's levels were extremely low. My neighbor who insisted she could not be low due to her outdoor activity was 11. I do suspect that heavy alcohol drinking may bring levels down, but haven't proven it.

Here is an article I wrote for my website.

Vitamin D3, What You Need to Know

As our national and world levels of chronic disease continues to sky rocket finally someone is telling us the truth about our need for vitamin D3 and how it can prevent cancer and many other serious diseases. I have personally cured my own long standing psoriasis with mega dosages of D3.

For many years we have been told by the FDA of the USA that vitamin D was important but that it was a dangerous vitamin to take and that too much could cause serious and dangerous health concerns. Since vitamin D3 is not readily available from most foods and our sun exposure has been increasingly limited due to time spent indoors and fears of skin cancer and use of sunblock, the FDA has allowed and promoted vitamin D to be put into milk. It was advised that supplementing further could be dangerous. The minimum dose of 200IU a day was found to prevent rickets and milk now carries this dosage.

But the research over the years has proven that D3 is not dangerous and now some doctors and health educators have been working diligently to bring real vitamin D education to the public. Though their efforts vitamin D3 studies are hitting the media and the misconceptions about his important vitamin are being eradicated.

The first and most important misconception about vitamin D revolves around which form of it to use. For many years doctors supplemented their patients with vitamin D2. Studies indicate that D2 is not readily utilized and its effects are negligible. People have taken this vitamin anticipating results that never came to them.

Vitamin D3 is the correct form. There are now many hundreds of studies on vitamin D3 that can be found all though the scientific literature for examination on its benefits in preventing cancer, osteoporosis, immune disorders, bone fractures, falls, and for treatment of chronic diseases including psoriasis, asthma, heart disease, breast cancer and so many others.
The blood level considered as an acceptable range was 35. Recently it has been raised to 50. Previously high blood levels were considered to be of significant concern but now levels as high as 200 no longer carry the stigma of fear. Many naturopaths are stating that if one has a chronic disease that it is advantageous to keep blood levels between 60 and 90.

In order to obtain high and healthy levels of D3 in this day and age one must supplement. In discussing D3 levels with those I know and examining their blood levels every single person examined was low. Even people who are outside frequently. Some levels were as low as 11, 18 and 29 in middle age adults.
It has been proven that exposure to sunlight does not provide adequate levels of D3 especially amongst middle aged and elderly people. Those most likely to have normal levels are children who are permitted to play outside frequently without sun block on. Due to decreasing fatty deposits under the skin in elderly they become very high risk for D3 deficiency and the diseases it can foster.

In a bio-identical homomes conference I attended 2 years ago Dr Campbell spoke about the injections that nursing home patients in India receive of high levels of D3. 600,000 IU are administered yearly because D3 improves pelvic strength and gait stability, thus decreasing falls amongst this frail population.

Vitamin D3 will eliminate the need for a flu vaccine and studies indicate that it is a more reliable flu preventative that the flu vaccine. That’s not too hard to believe since the FDA came out this fall to announce that the flu vaccine as it has stood over the last years was not effective and hence it was now necessary to take the vaccine in triple strength. No thank you FDA, I say.

I have had the opportunity to make the observations of medical staff and patients taking the flu shot year after year. Many coworkers surrounding me got the flu as well as patients, some of which did die from flu complications. I will keep my D3, thank you, and allow the others to continue with their mad experiments based in FDA fear mongering and ignorance. I have not had the flu in many years and such is the reports of many who keep their levels of D3 above 50.

You do not need to go to a doctor to check your D3 levels but you do need the correct type of test. It is called the Vitamin D (25-Hydroxyvitamin D) Test and it is available through The Vitamin C Counsil for about $65 that you can by yourself at home. Insurance will generally cover for this test at a doctor's office.

The Life Extension foundation has done an analysis of D3 findings on its members. It is an eye opener and Grass Roots Heath, a nonprofit organization is sponsoring seminars and a D3 study that you can join for a nominal fee. You will have your D3 levels checked though them.

I strongly recommend that you get your D3 levels checked for all your family members and provide effective supplementation. I recommend the product called Biotech D3.

for further info: http://www.grassrootshealth.net/daction (http://www.grassrootshealth.net/daction)
to purchase a test kit from the vitamin C counsil: http://www.zrtlab.com/vitamindcouncil/home-mainmenu-1.html?page=shop.browse&category_id=1 (http://www.zrtlab.com/vitamindcouncil/home-mainmenu-1.html?page=shop.browse&category_id=1)

[blufire]

I run a large organic farm and homestead and therefore I’m outside in the sun several hours a day all year long. I do not use sunscreen except a zinc based sunscreen on my face and neck . . . . .okay so I’m a little vain trying to keep the wrinkles and leather skin at bay. :o

About three years ago, during a routine yearly exam with my homeopathic doctor she reported that my D3 levels were seriously low. I laughed out loud and told her to run the labs again because I knew she had to have gotten my labs mixed with someone else’s.

They came back the same . . . . . and so I began taking 4,000 to 8,000 units a day. But this revelation put me on a research campaign on why most of the population worldwide is D3 depleted even those of us exposed to the sun.

Without going into a large explanation of my research, I came to the conclusion that all the D3 depletion comes down to a combination of GMO food (genetically modified organisms) and the chem-trails that have sprayed us, our environment and our food with an array of chemicals, heavy metals and who knows what else. I believe strongly that the D3 depletion is a possible combination of both of these or the chem.-trails possibly alone. Remember that even if you grow food organically it is still exposed to the chem.-trails.

This thread is important. But please realize that just by ingesting large amounts of D3 is ONLY a band-aid solution that is covering up a very insidious problem

We are only treating the symptom instead of finding the cause . . . . . . . . .

[Arrowwind]

This may be true Blufire... but we must do what we can in the moment.

Changes with the ozone layer may also be in play.
But we must remember, that until very recently the life span of humans was much less than today.
Improved diet and medical interventions has greatly increased life for most of us.

So it makes me think that perhaps vitamin D3 depletion was also a factor for those that preceded us also

[blufire]

I agree wholeheartedly that we need to take D3 to maintain a healthy body system. I also take a regime of other supplements and minerals.

For me, one aspect I find curious (in a morose way) about D3 depletion is that our bodies require this vitamin to fight disease and the other health aspects mentioned in your above posting. I feel that this is another element of a larger plan to make us possibly more “manageable” in the long run.

The only thing I respectfully cannot agree with is the thought that this depletion is caused largely by people remaining indoors more and using sunscreen. I am the perfect example of why this does not hold water. It is not only me but all my friends who are outdoors on a regular basis are seriously low on D3 and have to supplement.

Another angle to ponder. Right now we have access to D3 by purchasing it through the internet or health food stores. Remember . . . our bodies can no longer manufacture D3 from the sun. What would happen at the point we face a tragedy like Japan is suffering or perhaps an event that affects commerce on a global scale. Without the supplementation we would become vulnerable.

I would like to encourage everyone to perhaps look a little deeper . . . . beyond the perceived obvious . . .

[Lancelot]

Thanks for this interesting post. Its about time the medical community started waking up to the benefits of D3 by doing research and proving the link to beneficial health, increased happiness and prevention of major diseases. Of course this will never happen as long as the research is funded by the pharmeceutical industry. I wonder if cancer research would fund a study?

The current recommended amount is just 5Iu per day! Its worth noting that you do need calcium to absorb it as well, so some sort of calcuim supplement is advisable. Ive been taking D3 5000Iu for the last 2 winters and highly recommend it. I've never been ill and always kept happy through those long dark winter nights when I used to get down and inactive.
You can never beat a good dose of the sun though! :)

[Arrowwind]

I The only thing I respectfully cannot agree with is the thought that this depletion is caused largely by people remaining indoors more and using sunscreen. I am the perfect example of why this does not hold water. It is not only me but all my friends who are outdoors on a regular basis are seriously low on D3 and have to supplement.

I would like to encourage everyone to perhaps look a little deeper . . . . beyond the perceived obvious . . .

Most people who are young and spend time out side are not depleted.. You do not say your age but vitamin D3 depletion can start generally in the mid thirities.... but can be in children also who do not get adequate sun exposure. Rickets once was common in children before they started putting it in milk

But of course there could be other reasons besides changes in the fat compositoin under the skin where D3 is manufactured.. who knows really? could vaccinations be doing somtheing or other drug therapies, heavey metal toxicity, bromide? that would be a whole world to explore.. that I do not think is being looked at.

[Arrowwind]

Thanks for this interesting post. Its about time the medical community started waking up to the benefits of D3 by doing research and proving the link to beneficial health, increased happiness and prevention of major diseases. Of course this will never happen as long as the research is funded by the pharmeceutical industry. I wonder if cancer research would fund a study?

The current recommended amount is just 5Iu per day! Its worth noting that you do need calcium to absorb it as well, so some sort of calcuim supplement is advisable. Ive been taking D3 5000Iu for the last 2 winters and highly recommend it. I've never been ill and always kept happy through those long dark winter nights when I used to get down and inactive.
You can never beat a good dose of the sun though! :)

The medical community is awakening to the need and a very stong campaign by independent doctors and researchers is turning the tide.. It is almost becoming common knowledge.

Calcium is not needed for D3 absorption and utilization but calcium needs D3 to help place calcium within the bones.

[nearing]

I am proud to say I was a volunteer subject in the study this thread cites.

I take 6K IU/day in winter and 5K in summer (use the equinoxs as ruler). My serum 25(OH)D is 60 and I like it right there. And I love in a very sunny state. No matter, chemtrails, latitude, sunscreen, pollution, etc. ALL should be taking D3 supplements.

Funny video about this. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cq1t9WqOD-0)

[sorry, still don't know how to embed, just link, click on it]

Enjoy!

[Arrowwind]

Really excellent video, Nearing... and funny

[Humble Janitor]

http://www.naturalnews.com/031577_vitamin_D_scientific_research.html

Excerpt:

"We found that daily intakes of vitamin D by adults in the range of 4,000 to 8,000 IU [international units] are needed to maintain blood levels of vitamin D metabolites in the range needed to reduce by about half the risk of several diseases -- breast cancer, colon cancer, multiple sclerosis and type 1 diabetes," said Dr. Cedric Garland. (http://health.ucsd.edu/news/2011/02...)

Dr. Garland is the professor of family and preventive medicine at the UC San Diego Moores Cancer Center. He went on to say:

"I was surprised to find that the intakes required to maintain vitamin D status for disease prevention were so high -- much higher than the minimal intake of vitamin D of 400 IU/day that was needed to defeat rickets in the 20th century."

Of course, there is no mention that taking high doses of Vitamin D could interfere with thyroid medication.

I almost ended up going the Vitamin D route before someone discouraged me from doing so. I believe they were a member of this forum.

[Arrowwind]

I have never heard that high dosages of vitamin D3 would interfere with thyroid mediciation..
please provide some literature on this..
I have read many many papers on Vitamin D3 and no mention of this... so I am highly skeptical!

If you have thyroid problems maybe correctly addressing them first is the answer.
Supplementation with Lugols iodine can significantly decrease the need for supplemental thyroid hormone.
But it has to be done with care and periodic lab testing

[Maria Stade]

Last winter I bought D-vitamin for the first time ever.
I decided to eat 10 000 IE for 2 month Jorr was sure that now I had gone real :crazy: , explained that I would poison my self with this.
He is a nurse and this dose was to his knowledge noway safe.

Normal dose is max 1000 IE.

Thanks to all youtube films I did convince him that this was maybe not true.

Yes we eat now both 4 000 IE in the winter.

I have not been sick or even tired or slightly down this winter !

I am also interested in if D-vitamin have some negative effects with medication or other conditions.

And thanks to those bringing the information . This is a very important information.

Blessings and love.

But I must say that the message has gone trough and they are now looking in to this from many angles.

[Humble Janitor]

I have never heard that high dosages of vitamin D3 would interfere with thyroid mediciation..
please provide some literature on this..
I have read many many papers on Vitamin D3 and no mention of this... so I am highly skeptical!

If you have thyroid problems maybe correctly addressing them first is the answer.
Supplementation with Lugols iodine can significantly decrease the need for supplemental thyroid hormone.
But it has to be done with care and periodic lab testing

I've just read that Vitamin D can actually benefit the thyroid.

In that case, I will ask my doctor more. I have 3,000IU of Vitamin D in capsules but have not touched it since I bought it.

[HORIZONS]

Good info here...

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2008/12/16/my-one-hour-vitamin-d-lecture-to-clear-up-all-your-confusion-on-this-vital-nutrient.aspx


Vitamin D deficiency is pandemic in the United States, but many Americans, including physicians, are not aware that they may be lacking this important nutrient.

This video may simply be one of the most important videos for you and your family’s health this year. I urge you to find some quality time this holiday season to view it so you can understand the nearly unbelievable benefits you will receive by understanding this vital nutrient.

[HORIZONS]

More from the article:


The Role of Vitamin D in Your Body

There are only 30,000 genes in your body and vitamin D has been shown to influence over 2,000 of them. That is one of the primary reasons it influences so many diseases, from cancer and autism to heart disease and rheumatoid arthritis.

A study by Dr. William Grant, Ph.D., internationally recognized research scientist and vitamin D expert, found that about 30 percent of cancer deaths -- which amounts to 2 million worldwide and 200,000 in the United States -- could be prevented each year with higher levels of vitamin D.

Vitamin D has a protective effect against cancer in several ways, including:

• Increasing the self-destruction of mutated cells (which, if allowed to replicate, could lead to cancer)
• Reducing the spread and reproduction of cancer cells
• Causing cells to become differentiated (cancer cells often lack differentiation)
• Reducing the growth of new blood vessels from pre-existing ones, which is a step in the transition of dormant tumors turning cancerous

Beyond cancer, the researchers pointed out that increasing levels of vitamin D3 could prevent diseases that claim nearly 1 million lives throughout the world each year! And other studies showed that you can decrease your risk of cancer by MORE THAN HALF simply by optimizing your vitamin D levels with sun exposure.

Vitamin D even fights colds and the flu, as it regulates the expression of genes that influence your immune system to attack and destroy bacteria and viruses. In fact, it is very rare for someone with optimized vitamin D levels to come down with the flu.

Many are Deficient

In the United States, the late winter average vitamin D is only about 15-18 ng/ml, which is considered a very serious deficiency state. Meanwhile, it’s thought that over 95 percent of U.S. senior citizens may be deficient, along with 85 percent of the American public. Further:

• Vitamin D deficiency is epidemic in adults of all ages who have increased skin pigmentation, such as those whose ancestors are from Africa, the Middle East, or India, who always wear sun protection, or who limit their outdoor activities.

• African Americans and other dark-skinned people and those living in northern latitudes make significantly less vitamin D than other groups.

• 60 percent of people with type 2 diabetes have vitamin D deficiency.

• Studies showed very low levels of vitamin D among children, the elderly, and women.

• One U.S. study of women revealed that almost half of African American women of childbearing age might be vitamin-D deficient.

[Arpheus]

I take 10k units a day,been doing it for a year it does wonders and there are zero side effects!Anything under 20k is safe from what i read.

[tunguska]

No worries with the amount of sun here down under but I think the sun can be a great cure for the common cold and flu

[nearing]

Please see Caveat below!

For those worried about taking too much D3 or having other concerns, please watch the video I linked to in post #28. Dr. Hollis is the expert on the Vit D and he will put your mind at ease. He'll also give you quite a few chuckles while he is educating you. :bounce:

You can't overdose unless you take 100,000 IU's a day for months. Keep in mind that your body MAKES about 15,000-20,000 IUs when you lay on the beach in the summer for only 30 minutes.

The official RDA of D had been pathetically low for years due to the fact that they were only looking at preventing Rickets in children. And 200-400IUs a day will do that. But the human body NEEDS much more than that to function properly and to stave off many of the chronic diseases that plague us today.

Caveat: There are a few situations where one should be careful about supplementing with D and should ONLY do it under a physician's supervision.

Here they are:

diseases that may contraindicate taking D3 supplements, i.e. a history of renal stones, sarcoidosis, oat cell carcinoma of the lung, and non-Hodgkin's lymphoma, primary hyperparathyroidism, hypercalcemia, malabsorption syndrome, tuberculosis, and those who use cardiac glycosides (digoxin), thiazide diuretics or antithyroid medications}