Mysterious Georgia Guidestones

[Koyaanisqatsi]

This is one of the few threads i've created, hopefully I will present it in an organized way. (haven't found a related thread, if one exists mods please merge :) )
The Georgia Guidestones have been referred to as "the American Stoneghenge" for their apparent similarities. Large stone pillars that seem to read as some guidelines for society or a manifesto of sorts. These are some of the facts I've gathered:

*Constructed out of massive slabs of granite in 1979, at a pricetag of over half a million dollars

*Located in rural Georgia, about two hours outside Atlanta

* their creator(s) has remained unknown- only using the psuedenym R.C. Christian

*the guidestones have astrological importance in their construction, aligning in unique ways with celestial bodies (i know there's more to this, help avalonians!)

*On the pillars, etched in the worlds eight most common languages are seemingly benevolent instructions on how society should be formed (there are ten of these "calls to higher thinking" drawing comparisons to the Ten Commandments)

* Due to the megalithic nature of the granite slabs, and their geographical location (well above sea level/not near known fault line) it is safe to assume this structure will be there for thousands of years, no doubt in my mind I believe that was intentional

*Inscribed on each one of these stones in varying dialects is this=

1)Maintain humanity under 500,000,000 in perpetual balance with nature.
2)Guide reproduction wisely - improving fitness and diversity.
3)Unite humanity with a living new language.
4)Rule passion - faith - tradition - and all things with tempered reason.
5)Protect people and nations with fair laws and just courts.
6)Let all nations rule internally resolving external disputes in a world court.
7)Avoid petty laws and useless officials.
8)Balance personal rights with social duties.
9)Prize truth - beauty - love - seeking harmony with the infinite.
10)not a cancer on the earth - Leave room for nature - Leave room for nature.
The first of these "commandments" seems to be the most controversial, most of the others seem to resonate with myself as well as many others

Lets open discussion on the Georgia Guidestones, its a great mystery and one that appeals to me as it relates to my studies of Edgar Cayce and "earth changes" that may be coming attractions. Thoughts??

[Lunar]

I think that is interesting that some of those languages are written in Sanskrit, Babylonian Cuneiform and Heiroglyphics - who is it meant for?

[Koyaanisqatsi]

Trying for an image, help with that is welcomed.
@Lunar- good question, as far as I know that cuneiform script is the worlds oldest written language of the Sumerians, very very interesting that someone with great wealth and unknown motives decided to include a dead language like that. hmmm......

[Strat]

I think that is interesting that some of those languages are written in Sanskrit, Babylonian Cuneiform and Heiroglyphics - who is it meant for?

Can you find a picture of this? I've only seen English, Spanish, Swahili, Hindi, Hebrew, Arabic, Chinese, and Russian.

This is fun to watch: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PIUtUVSheC4

Brad Meltzer and his team investigate the Georgia Guide Stones.

[Koyaanisqatsi]

I think that is interesting that some of those languages are written in Sanskrit, Babylonian Cuneiform and Heiroglyphics - who is it meant for?

Can you find a picture of this? I've only seen English, Spanish, Swahili, Hindi, Hebrew, Arabic, Chinese, and Russian.

Actually Strat, i believe you are correct, those are the worlds 8 most common languages, after looking back, i find no other languages. I think this may be some instructions how to best rebuild society after an apocalypse of sorts. I mean, what else could be the reason for them??

[king anthony]

Intentions have been made known by performing acts against humanity, and an example is presented with the Georgia Guidestones - located in Elbert County, in the state of Georgia United States.

Writings on the face of each side are in English, Spanish, Swahili, Hindi, Hebrew, Arabic and Russian. Writings at the top include Babylonian, Classic Greek, Sanskrit and Egyptian hieroglyphs.

Is aid not given prior to an 'event' or 'journey' and not after!? Has not the population already exceeded what is written!? People have been made to believe the world is over populated; this is not true - there is another agenda for this.

Is this not near the time of the next harvest and great battle!? Would these 'guiding words' not occur prior to and after this time to be!? I say, the time to come approaches - and as with the ancients, thought has been left behind - something is known and not shared.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojyBTAuv8Uc&feature=related

[Koyaanisqatsi]

Very interesting and thanks for the video King Anthony, but what exactly are your interpretations of this other agenda? This whole subject fascinates me greatly.

[An Cailleach]

[QUOTE=Lunar;163742]I think that is interesting that some of those languages are written in Sanskrit, Babylonian Cuneiform and Heiroglyphics - who is it meant for?
Actually Strat, i believe you are correct, those are the worlds 8 most common languages, after looking back, i find no other languages. I think this may be some instructions how to best rebuild society after an apocalypse of sorts. I mean, what else could be the reason for them??

If this is a post-apocalyptic guide to how to live, and these guidestones will be standing after an apocalypse, then maybe we should set up camp beside the stones. We might just be safe there!

[Strat]

[QUOTE=Lunar;163742]I think that is interesting that some of those languages are written in Sanskrit, Babylonian Cuneiform and Heiroglyphics - who is it meant for?
Actually Strat, i believe you are correct, those are the worlds 8 most common languages, after looking back, i find no other languages. I think this may be some instructions how to best rebuild society after an apocalypse of sorts. I mean, what else could be the reason for them??

If this is a post-apocalyptic guide to how to live, and these guidestones will be standing after an apocalypse, then maybe we should set up camp beside the stones. We might just be safe there!

In my first post, where I included Brad Meltzer's take on the Georgia Guidestones, they mention this. Some believe there will be 'safe zones' after this apocalypse. A map is shown in the documentary with X amount of safe zones (less than 10 I believe). And yes the Georgia Guidestones is one of them.

@ King Anthony - Excellent post! I had never known there were hieroglyphics on the Guidestones until I watched that video you posted. Fascinating. Check out this picture I found online, it may be helpful:

http://img.weburbanist.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/instructions-post-apocalypse.jpg

[Fred259]

Seriously Folks, the best thing that could happen to those stones is for the militia to plan a night raid and blow the bloody stones up with explosives.

They don’t belong to anyone, they have no message and anyone who thinks it’s a good idea slaughtering 6 billion humans is frankly insane.

I understand what you mean Koyaanisqatsi they look like the Stonehenge stones but the Georgia stones are modern as you rightly say they have only been around for 22 years.

The timeline is interesting it’s clearly some of these New World Order freaks, with little to do all day. All they bring is hopelessness and despair and are a complete abomination.

[king anthony]

Very interesting and thanks for the video King Anthony, but what exactly are your interpretations of this other agenda? This whole subject fascinates me greatly.

Interpretations are opinions, beliefs and faiths - these are luxuries that some do not have. While on the journey, know all things are part of the one, and with knowing this, clarity will be revealed.

'When space is needed for a member or guest, the head of the table accommodates; while the others make sure what is needed is done. The head of the table selects the mealtime and decides who sits next to them. As the dinner story unfolds, the dessert is stated - and comes when the head of the table has it brought - regardless of what stage the meal is. Afterwards, what is leftover is for the next meal.'

[king anthony]

....Check out this picture I found online...

Interesting drawing; I have never seen it before - it is interesting how it includes measurements. Thank you for sharing.

[DeBron]

I went by there a couple years ago. It is awesome. With no positive iteration. Just Huge, and you know that someone or some very intelligent and rich people paid to put it there. Oh it is owned by someone, I dont know who but the property that it is laid on is being paid for. You cant build something and not pay property taxes in Georgia.

[9eagle9]

The assumption is made that population reduction will be guided by a human hand. What if it's not? The earth has periodic cleansing periods when her children become more like pests. She's rather indiscriminating in that sense. She raised mountains to separate us, and oceans to divide us when we couldn't keep our paws off of each other. Yet we found a way to cross both so we could raid and pillage each other. Who is to say some natural born catastrophic event is not at hand, and the people who put up these stones are aware of it? Many more of us that aren't putting up monuments are aware of the possibility of such an occurrence. If one takes a look outside at the world today its be a changing, and lots of earth related events are at hand. Some may like to say its HAARP or DARPA and that may be true....it also may not be true and yet another earth cleansing is at hand. I can't count the number of times the earth has insisted we don't over populate along the Mississipi River, and how many we've ignored that even though she regularly reminds us by periodic flood outs. The hand of man? Or man just ignoring the obvious?


This is one of the few threads i've created, hopefully I will present it in an organized way. (haven't found a related thread, if one exists mods please merge :) )
The Georgia Guidestones have been referred to as "the American Stoneghenge" for their apparent similarities. Large stone pillars that seem to read as some guidelines for society or a manifesto of sorts. These are some of the facts I've gathered:

*Constructed out of massive slabs of granite in 1979, at a pricetag of over half a million dollars

*Located in rural Georgia, about two hours outside Atlanta

* their creator(s) has remained unknown- only using the psuedenym R.C. Christian

*the guidestones have astrological importance in their construction, aligning in unique ways with celestial bodies (i know there's more to this, help avalonians!)

*On the pillars, etched in the worlds eight most common languages are seemingly benevolent instructions on how society should be formed (there are ten of these "calls to higher thinking" drawing comparisons to the Ten Commandments)

* Due to the megalithic nature of the granite slabs, and their geographical location (well above sea level/not near known fault line) it is safe to assume this structure will be there for thousands of years, no doubt in my mind I believe that was intentional

*Inscribed on each one of these stones in varying dialects is this=

1)Maintain humanity under 500,000,000 in perpetual balance with nature.
2)Guide reproduction wisely - improving fitness and diversity.
3)Unite humanity with a living new language.
4)Rule passion - faith - tradition - and all things with tempered reason.
5)Protect people and nations with fair laws and just courts.
6)Let all nations rule internally resolving external disputes in a world court.
7)Avoid petty laws and useless officials.
8)Balance personal rights with social duties.
9)Prize truth - beauty - love - seeking harmony with the infinite.
10)not a cancer on the earth - Leave room for nature - Leave room for nature.
The first of these "commandments" seems to be the most controversial, most of the others seem to resonate with myself as well as many others

Lets open discussion on the Georgia Guidestones, its a great mystery and one that appeals to me as it relates to my studies of Edgar Cayce and "earth changes" that may be coming attractions. Thoughts??

[Lunar]

Trying for an image, help with that is welcomed.
@Lunar- good question, as far as I know that cuneiform script is the worlds oldest written language of the Sumerians, very very interesting that someone with great wealth and unknown motives decided to include a dead language like that. hmmm......

Someone must have translated it for them into these ancient languages so somebody must be on their payroll somewhere!

[Koyaanisqatsi]

Perhaps 9eagle9 is onto something. Maybe TPTB won't reduce the population, but mother nature herself? After all hasn't humanity already become a "cancer upon the earth"? What with oil spills, HAARP,ct's etc maybe its high time. Funny, I've studied the Hopi native to this Arizona land for years (my screename "koyaanisqatsi" is a hopi word meaning, loosely "life out of balance") and they have a spoken word prophecy for the end of days. They say that one morning they will wake up and see water=the map shown on Brad Meltzers investigation seemed to support this possibility. Cities like Spokane, Phoenix and Denver (a supposed massive underground facility is said to exists under an airport in that same area) may indeed one day become waterfront cities. Crazy to think about but if the San Andreas fault ever went.....or the ice caps keep melting...
"I got some oceanfront property in Arizona" haha funny saying in that light

[PurpleLama]

in my understanding, the mass translation of beings into the next dimension is simply natural when accomplished by nature itself. However, the murder of countless billions in the name of population reduction, whether to serve the agenda of those who would wish to control or even to save the world for future generations would be, for lack of a better term, an abomination, an affront to the universal consciousness. I for one am here to experience and assist in this incredible shift in density, not to be a pawn, and not to be eliminated for the greater good. So, yeah, you guys or gals, whatever the case may be, are hitting close to the mark. I wouldn't expect anything any more severe than what's been happening already as far as earth based cataclysms. The majority will indeed be preserved and given the chance to awaken, be it only a few minutes aheah of the wave actually passing through, even.

[Fred Steeves]

My wife and i went out of our way coming home from vacation last summer to see them also. They definately display an incredible knowledge few on this planet posess. Knowing the way these warped, spiritually dead people have hoarded and misused this knowledge for their own selfish ends makes me pity them.

Not impressed.

Cheers,
Fred S.

[king anthony]

Check out this picture I found online, it may be helpful

I have put some thought into the measurements; I am good at seeing words, I am not good at seeing numbers - two different kinds of logic.

Lines have been drawn to show 'North Star' and 'Sun' implying significant 'lines of sight'; this would also imply other 'lines of sight' have no relevance.

When the earth changes (for example, on its axis), how would this affect these current 'lines of sight''? If some sort of knowledge is used, other then what common human beings possess, then could it be other 'lines of site' are, but not yet seen?

The same things have been said about many other monuments on earth, new and old. Looking back to ancient monuments, they appear to have 'lines of sight' as well (according to some); if these 'lines of sight' are significant, then how is it that these 'lines of sight' survived the many changes in earth's history?

Or are 'lines of sight' simply by chance, as one sees what they want!?

[raparee]

I remember researching these stones after they were erected, and if my memory serves me correctly, these stones were quarried in Portugal, there was something about the composition of this rock that was important to the elite, can anyone help me out here, anyone find similar information?

[Lifebringer]

Coincides with Bush 1's coronation as king back in 1991 at 1201 am.
See C street ceremony.

[Adrift]

Hmm. The Anglo-Portuguese Alliance (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglo-Portuguese_Alliance)

[str8thinker]

Thanks for starting this thread.


haven't found a related thread, if one exists mods please merge

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?720

also
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?4478
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?3953

Guidestones are discussed here:
http://edition.cnn.com/2010/US/03/22/georgia.mystery.monument/

and also appear in one of the Ancient Aliens episodes, I can't remember which one.

[Fred Steeves]

I remember researching these stones after they were erected, and if my memory serves me correctly, these stones were quarried in Portugal, there was something about the composition of this rock that was important to the elite, can anyone help me out here, anyone find similar information?

The granite was quarried right there in Elberton. The type of granite used is called Pyramid Blue, the quarry is called Pyramid Quarries Inc, and the owner just happened to be a 33rd degree mason.

cheers,
Fred S.

[tkh123186]

If it were NWO evil people saying were gonna kill off everyone but 500,000,000 people then it would not have guidelines to rebuild humanity. To me it seems like a guideline on how to rebuild society after a natural disaster that seems destined to happen in the future.

[Dale]

The case of the Georgia Guidestones is quite mysterious, at best. Though we can read the writing on the stones, and are able to comprehend that much, we have no clear idea as to why they were placed where they were, and for what reason. It's all very hazy.

I'd like to make a brief example. Let's assume I am sitting at lunch with a friend discussing Utopian Civilizations. Let's also assume that he has no idea what the Georgia Guidestones are, nor of their writing. If he then hands me a list of ten principles such a society should abide by, I would be willing to bet that they'd look quite similar to what is written on the Guidestones.

The problem with the Guidestones, in my opinion, is that though they seem noble in cause, we live in a world of roughly six billion souls. We are trashing our environment, warring with one another over petty issues, completely lost in a materialistic sense of "here and now." To go from the status quo to something similar to what the Guidestones describe would involve absolute tyranny and chaos. It would be nightmarish!

However, if one looks at the Guidestones as literal "guidestones" to a population that has been greatly reduced in numbers by some sort of disaster, they now seem to convey a message of, "Don't make the same mistake again. Respect one another and your environment because things have a tendency to go full circle." Might this be their purpose?

[jackovesk]

I am surprised somebody over there hasn't blown them up yet!

[tkh123186]

However, if one looks at the Guidestones as literal "guidestones" to a population that has been greatly reduced in numbers by some sort of disaster, they now seem to convey a message of, "Don't make the same mistake again. Respect one another and your environment because things have a tendency to go full circle." Might this be their purpose?

Could not have said it better myself. Thanks Dale.

[Odah]

If it didn't have the 500million pop figure .. this thing would be ho hum..there might be some population reduction ahead.. but 6 billion dead .. there would be no unity after that.

[happyexpat]

How often do people attack something just because they don't know what it is or what it means or what it is about?

I went to the Georgia Guidestones while pregnant with our daughter. It's actually a very beautiful spot. Definitely something about the energy there. The spot was chosen for a reason.

I have never seen anything anywhere that suggests murdering anyone or actually anything evil to do with the stones themselves. It doesn't seem very smart to put meanings on things that just aren't there.

I think they are designed to still be there after this "civilisation" (I mean face it, we're hardly civil are we?) is long gone. Maybe it will help the next batch be smarter about how they use the planet. We've certainly botched things haven't we? And how many people do you see actually doing anything about constructive change? It has to start with ourselves.

These stones are actually art. Despite whatever immature and unintelligent people choose to do to vandalise them. Why not suggest somebody go vandalise the pyramid or the sphinx?

They are a future artifact, and I suspect will be here long after any of us.

[jackovesk]

How often do people attack something just because they don't know what it is or what it means or what it is about?

I went to the Georgia Guidestones while pregnant with our daughter. It's actually a very beautiful spot. Definitely something about the energy there. The spot was chosen for a reason.

I have never seen anything anywhere that suggests murdering anyone or actually anything evil to do with the stones themselves. It doesn't seem very smart to put meanings on things that just aren't there.

I think they are designed to still be there after this "civilisation" (I mean face it, we're hardly civil are we?) is long gone. Maybe it will help the next batch be smarter about how they use the planet. We've certainly botched things haven't we? And how many people do you see actually doing anything about constructive change? It has to start with ourselves.

These stones are actually art. Despite whatever immature and unintelligent people choose to do to vandalise them. Why not suggest somebody go vandalise the pyramid or the sphinx?

They are a future artifact, and I suspect will be here long after any of us.

LMAO...

Guess What...KistheMum?

1) Maintain humanity under 500,000,000 in perpetual balance with nature.

Do the Math...

No matter how you SPIN IT, not you or your children or any of your family members are going to be one of the 500,000,000 survivors/chosen ones. Period!

In fact you will all be dead, killed by those who have close ties to those that put the Guidestones up in the 1st place that classify you and your family as useless eaters!


"These stones are actually art"

Gimme-A-Break, more like a Prophetic Art of Death, with sycophantic semantical prose direct from Lucifer!

[Hughe]

I am surprised somebody over there hasn't blown them up yet!

That's strange isn't it? Why the locals let it stand there radiating all the sick ideas and negativity?
It will takes few hours to demolish the stone. Or they can hire local artists to change the shape.

[9eagle9]

Geez. We really do just hand our power over to just any old thing.

[bennycog]

http://www.radioliberty.com/stones.htm





damn! i tried to embed some photos' on here of the guidestones.. so the readers could see it..

[Koyaanisqatsi]

If it didn't have the 500million pop figure .. this thing would be ho hum..there might be some population reduction ahead.. but 6 billion dead .. there would be no unity after that.

.....or there might be total unity. People tend to band together after catastrophies, especially if 95% of the worlds population died, the remaining few would have great cause to unite in some way IMO.

[ulli]

http://www.radioliberty.com/stones.htm





damn! i tried to embed some photos' on here of the guidestones.. so the readers could see it..



http://www.guidestones.us/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/Guidesontes1.jpg

[DouglasDanger]

If you have done scientific research work you'll understand that when your running a scientific experiment you only want so much of your petry dish/medium exposed to certain organisums. If the earth is the petri dish and we are the stuarts in an experiment to watch and record the natural evolution of ALL the earths species, then the planets current population encrouches on to many natural areas and number 1's statement is true, nothing on this planet will naturally evolve, without us humans at our current population disturbing or extincting the animal or plant species of the planet because we are not in a natural balance..

It doesn't say 1) kill every human above a 500 000 000 million mark.... it suggests that number for the earth to have a natural balance, "natural evolultion". Some people have eradication in thier minds and because there is no information on the what when's or why's these stones where erected some folks have to jump to the bottom line and won't accept that hey maybe it's just a suggested number OR some one Screwed up in the carving and left off two zero's.. Either way our current population does encrouch on almost every natural habitat, there isn't any natural selection going on, We are playing god with this planet and deciding what lives and what we carelessly kill even ourselves...

[modwiz]

I am surprised somebody over there hasn't blown them up yet!

Remember the cover for "Who's Next" by the Who?

[ulli]

This is just a wild guess, but maybe the mason who chiselled those numbers
counted wrong and missed three zeros, and his bosses never went back to check on his work....

he wasn't a 33 degree mason, obviously...

[Loren]

Facts are facts your opinion of them does not change the truth,and we can change.L

[Bill Ryan]

http://projectavalon.net/Georgia_Guidestones_English_Full.jpg

[gripreaper]

When looking at the manifesto on the Georgia Guidestones, it smacks of the last age of 5000 years and the rule of law. The rule of law was necessary during the polarized patriarchal age and became a social construct primarily to foster hierarchical power structure designed to subjugate the many in favor of the few. This type of hierarchy is no longer necessary as we move into the next octave of ascended consciousness of co-creation, where empathy and understanding are the rule of law and duality dissipates and all sentient beings see the "other" as themselves and the sophia matrix of all that is no longer sees separation as a mandate and a paradigm to be ascribed to.

One has to go back into pre diluvian history to understand how the natural evolution of the species was altered and hybridized causing unnatural explosion of populations on this earth and how the patriarchal power structure mandated by this same nefarious elite dictates through fractional reserve banking and the endless creation of debt instruments to subjugate people into a paradigm of cannibalizing the earth in order to survive within that structured subservient paradigm.

Remove the elite hierarchical capstone and release the free energy technology, and the old paradigm and its structures collapse and go away and balance returns.

[Nervana]

I do not have a problem with a population reduction. Please remove all the rapists, murderers, thieves, pedophiles, wife/children beaters, crooked cops, lying lawyers, corrupt government officials, scam bankers, ponzi scheme hedge fund managers and any other bastards that harm others. That should get rid of a big chunk of crap.

[slipknotted]

i cant believe it's still standing ?

[blufire]

Okay . . . . I know I will get raked over the coals for what I’m about to say and that my post could be cut up and taken out of context and put in those five hundred little quotation boxes . . . . but what the hooey.


I’m always intensely curious when I read the posts of reactions regarding death or dying, especially with elements like the “Guidestones” or when population reduction is broached.

I realize that the main emotional reaction is the perception of another human being taking the life of another, especially by people (who many think) feel they are superior.

My curiosity stems from the question that always comes to mind . . . I’m part of a forum that I always felt (mostly) do not fear death or would view it with negative emotion. I am always surprised at the intense reaction when death is brought up. Yes . . . Yes . . I realize it is the feeling in these realms of discussion that it is the “taking” of life, but there is perhaps a deeper way to view this "type" of death.

Jackovesk you pointed out to KistheMum that neither she nor her children would be part of the “chosen” and actually neither would me or my babies. But the question that always comes to my mind is “and this is a bad thing”????? Why would I want to be “chosen” by a group that I may not have respect and certainly do not know their motivation? And I say “may not have” because we do not know who erected these stones or their true reasons. All we have are personal opinions and suppositions. Opinions and suppositions that are strongly colored by our own life journey.

The main idea here is . . . . .”they” or no one else CAN TAKE MY LIFE!

The only thing “they” can do is RELEASE my “life force, soul, spirit, energy” from this organic body. If this should happen then I have fulfilled my contract or reason for being here at this place, on this planet and at this time.

I would not be DEAD . . . just in a different life form.

I do not fear death nor do I wish I would die, but I’m intensely curious about the “other side of the veil” and sometimes . . . like now. . . . when I feel so exhausted and sad . . . . I do very much want to . . . .go home . . . .to the stars.

:behindsofa:

[majapahit]

:cool:
I think that is interesting that some of those languages are written in Sanskrit, Babylonian Cuneiform and Heiroglyphics - who is it meant for?

it is meant for ..

pathologically
insane
satanic
degenerate & dangerous
Retards

who gained their fortune through theft, murder & racketeering
:cool:

[Hervé]

What bugs me with the first guideline (Maintain humanity under 500,000,000....) is that it indicates a repopulation to be maintained below that number... that means the starting number could very well be 0 (zero--implying a new seeding from elsewhere) or a few 1000s or may be a few millions but, in any case, from somewhere below 500 millions.

That's a total wipe out!

Yet, there is the assumption that the remaining people or new incoming ones would be able to read/decipher those inscriptions... unless it's to be used as some sort of Rosetta Stone by future archeologists as a starting point to unravel a fossilized Vatican library?

The other interesting thing is it doesn't advocate the interbreeding dear to the aristocratic or religious bloodlines, to the contrary.... And the rest of it is actually in the face of the current NWO advocates and their agenda: seen any evidence of just courts lately? Useful officials? Promotion of truth? Etc.

[Zook]

Okay . . . . I know I will get raked over the coals for what I’m about to say and that my post could be cut up and taken out of context and put in those five hundred little quotation boxes . . . . but what the hooey.
I’m always intensely curious when I read the posts of reactions regarding death or dying, especially with elements like the “Guidestones” or when population reduction is broached.
I realize that the main emotional reaction is the perception of another human being taking the life of another, especially by people (who many think) feel they are superior.
My curiosity stems from the question that always comes to mind . . . I’m part of a forum that I always felt (mostly) do not fear death or would view it with negative emotion. I am always surprised at the intense reaction when death is brought up. Yes . . . Yes . . I realize it is the feeling in these realms of discussion that it is the “taking” of life, but there is perhaps a deeper way to view this "type" of death.
Jackovesk you pointed out to KistheMum that neither she nor her children would be part of the “chosen” and actually neither would me or my babies. But the question that always comes to my mind is “and this is a bad thing”????? Why would I want to be “chosen” by a group that I may not have respect and certainly do not know their motivation? And I say “may not have” because we do not know who erected these stones or their true reasons. All we have are personal opinions and suppositions. Opinions and suppositions that are strongly colored by our own life journey.
The main idea here is . . . . .”they” or no one else CAN TAKE MY LIFE!
The only thing “they” can do is RELEASE my “life force, soul, spirit, energy” from this organic body. If this should happen then I have fulfilled my contract or reason for being here at this place, on this planet and at this time.
I would not be DEAD . . . just in a different life form.
I do not fear death nor do I wish I would die, but I’m intensely curious about the “other side of the veil” and sometimes . . . like now. . . . when I feel so exhausted and sad . . . . I do very much want to . . . .go home . . . .to the stars.
:behindsofa:

It's the principle of the thing, Bloof.

You wouldn't want your neighbor to take your car without first asking your permission; certainly, you don't want your neighbor taking it to the junkyard to be crushed and converted into reusable metal.

That should be your choice ... not your neighbor's choice. When it becomes my neighbor's choice to do as they please with my car, I might as well surrender my third-density human choices and principles and become molten metal to be shaped as another pleases.

:smow::typing:

ps: To complete the thought, even a Lada has as much right to the road of life as a Smart car or a Lamborghini.

[webyourstuff]

World population is 6,907,812,425 at this minute (see http://www.census.gov/main/www/popclock.html). Someone here said the Illuminati are 1% of the population. That is 6,907,812. If we are cut back to 500,000,000, while preserving the bad guys, that leaves (rounded) 13 slaves per slave master, a number small enough, they can control more easily.

[aroundthetable]

More sneaky nonsense from those who would be God.

[GK76]

i cant believe it's still standing ?

I've always wondered what would happen if it was to be destroyed (at no point am I saying its destruction is acceptable - especially without knowing the truth behind it), would it be replaced? Perhaps the destruction would only act as a catalyst to the message, if left alone it could slide further into obscurity.

[Lettherebelight]

Whose land is it on, anyway? Surely they must have some answers.

Can't someone get a ladder and some paint, and daub 'To help to...' in front of each imperitive verb?

MAINTAIN...
GUIDE...
RULE...
PROTECT...
LET...

It reads a little too totalitarianistic...not very classy.

For people to whom money is no object, surely they could have a found someone with a little more than this paltry modicum of editing expertise.

[Mike]

I am surprised somebody over there hasn't blown them up yet!

Remember the cover for "Who's Next" by the Who?

great album! was actually just listening to this very album on my father's old record player yesterday(synchronicity?) i love the sound of old vinyl. what's the story behind that album cover, Modwiz?

Dale has a particularly interesting take here. i don't think i've ever heard anybody take that angle on the stones before. thanks Dale.

but i have to say, the first 3 guidestone "suggestions" in particular appear to me to be clever nwo euphemisms. "maintain humanity under 500,000,000" sounds like mass genocide. "guide reproduction wisely, improving fitness and diversity" sounds like eugenics-if you take out the word "diversity". "unite humanity with a living new language" sounds very globalist to me as well etc...

what really gets me though about the stones is this ridiculous suggestion that they represent "fair play" by the ptb("you can't say we didn't tell you so!")that's akin to me playing hide n seek with my niece and running off and hiding somewhere in Yosemite. if you really want to be "fair", why not put them somewhere where everyone will see them, like times square??? a show of hands from everyone who has actually been to this georgia park? (must be an echo in here ;))

[modwiz]

I am surprised somebody over there hasn't blown them up yet!

Remember the cover for "Who's Next" by the Who?

great album! was actually just listening to this very album on my father's old record player yesterday(synchronicity?) i love the sound of old vinyl. what's the story behind that album cover, Modwiz?

Dale has a particularly interesting take here. i don't think i've ever heard anybody take that angle on the stones before. thanks Dale.

but i have to say, the first 3 guidestone "suggestions" in particular appear to me to be clever nwo euphemisms. "maintain humanity under 500,000,000" sounds like mass genocide. "guide reproduction wisely, improving fitness and diversity" sounds like eugenics-if you take out the word "diversity". "unite humanity with a living new language" sounds very globalist to me as well etc...

what really gets me though about the stones is this ridiculous suggestion that they represent "fair play" by the ptb("you can't say we didn't tell you so!")that's akin to me playing hide n seek with my niece and running off and hiding somewhere in Yosemite. if you really want to be "fair", why not put them somewhere where everyone will see them, like times square??? a show of hands from everyone who has actually been to this georgia park? (must be an echo in here ;))

My reference to that album was the band had just collectively urinated on a slab that reminded me of the Georgia Guidestones. I love their sense of humor, asking who is next to relieve themselves on the slab.

When Jackovesk had ideated blowing them up I suggested the Who's Next album cover as imagery for another approach towards them.

I guess too much subtlety does not work well.

[Mike]

I am surprised somebody over there hasn't blown them up yet!

Remember the cover for "Who's Next" by the Who?

great album! was actually just listening to this very album on my father's old record player yesterday(synchronicity?) i love the sound of old vinyl. what's the story behind that album cover, Modwiz?

Dale has a particularly interesting take here. i don't think i've ever heard anybody take that angle on the stones before. thanks Dale.

but i have to say, the first 3 guidestone "suggestions" in particular appear to me to be clever nwo euphemisms. "maintain humanity under 500,000,000" sounds like mass genocide. "guide reproduction wisely, improving fitness and diversity" sounds like eugenics-if you take out the word "diversity". "unite humanity with a living new language" sounds very globalist to me as well etc...

what really gets me though about the stones is this ridiculous suggestion that they represent "fair play" by the ptb("you can't say we didn't tell you so!")that's akin to me playing hide n seek with my niece and running off and hiding somewhere in Yosemite. if you really want to be "fair", why not put them somewhere where everyone will see them, like times square??? a show of hands from everyone who has actually been to this georgia park? (must be an echo in here ;))

My reference to that album was the band had just collectively urinated on a slab that reminded me of the Georgia Guidestones. I love their sense of humor, asking who is next to relieve themselves on the slab.

When Jackovesk had ideated blowing them up I suggested the Who's Next album cover as imagery for another approach towards them.

I guess too much subtlety does not work well.

subtlety understood. was really interested in the story behind the monolith and how they found it. just a slab of concrete then?

[modwiz]

I am surprised somebody over there hasn't blown them up yet!

Remember the cover for "Who's Next" by the Who?

great album! was actually just listening to this very album on my father's old record player yesterday(synchronicity?) i love the sound of old vinyl. what's the story behind that album cover, Modwiz?

Dale has a particularly interesting take here. i don't think i've ever heard anybody take that angle on the stones before. thanks Dale.

but i have to say, the first 3 guidestone "suggestions" in particular appear to me to be clever nwo euphemisms. "maintain humanity under 500,000,000" sounds like mass genocide. "guide reproduction wisely, improving fitness and diversity" sounds like eugenics-if you take out the word "diversity". "unite humanity with a living new language" sounds very globalist to me as well etc...

what really gets me though about the stones is this ridiculous suggestion that they represent "fair play" by the ptb("you can't say we didn't tell you so!")that's akin to me playing hide n seek with my niece and running off and hiding somewhere in Yosemite. if you really want to be "fair", why not put them somewhere where everyone will see them, like times square??? a show of hands from everyone who has actually been to this georgia park? (must be an echo in here ;))

My reference to that album was the band had just collectively urinated on a slab that reminded me of the Georgia Guidestones. I love their sense of humor, asking who is next to relieve themselves on the slab.

When Jackovesk had ideated blowing them up I suggested the Who's Next album cover as imagery for another approach towards them.

I guess too much subtlety does not work well.

subtlety understood. was really interested in the story behind the monolith and how they found it. just a slab of concrete then?

Well, I don't like to disappoint so here is a little background from wikipedia:

The album cover shows a photograph, taken at Easington Colliery, of the band apparently having just urinated on a large concrete piling protruding from a slag heap. According to photographer Ethan Russell, most of the members were unable to urinate, so rainwater was tipped from an empty film canister to achieve the desired effect. The photograph is often seen to be a reference to the monolith discovered on the moon in the film 2001: A Space Odyssey, which had been released only about three years earlier.

[LunaTala]

You are right Kayaanisqatsi. The first commandment is extremely controversial. Over population is the most dangerous and forbidden subject on the planet. It is a question that I ask lots of people, and most that I talk to agree that the planet is over populated, but at the same time, there is not one person that I have came across that has the slightest clue what the balance is on this planet. I could give you a ton of statistics, but all that does is bring in doom and gloom which leads to our extinction like something related to the Easter Island affect.

Interesting that the hole in the Georgia Guild Stones is identical to the hole in the tree made by the Pleiadians with the Billy Meiers case.

[Mike]

I am surprised somebody over there hasn't blown them up yet!

Remember the cover for "Who's Next" by the Who?

great album! was actually just listening to this very album on my father's old record player yesterday(synchronicity?) i love the sound of old vinyl. what's the story behind that album cover, Modwiz?

Dale has a particularly interesting take here. i don't think i've ever heard anybody take that angle on the stones before. thanks Dale.

but i have to say, the first 3 guidestone "suggestions" in particular appear to me to be clever nwo euphemisms. "maintain humanity under 500,000,000" sounds like mass genocide. "guide reproduction wisely, improving fitness and diversity" sounds like eugenics-if you take out the word "diversity". "unite humanity with a living new language" sounds very globalist to me as well etc...

what really gets me though about the stones is this ridiculous suggestion that they represent "fair play" by the ptb("you can't say we didn't tell you so!")that's akin to me playing hide n seek with my niece and running off and hiding somewhere in Yosemite. if you really want to be "fair", why not put them somewhere where everyone will see them, like times square??? a show of hands from everyone who has actually been to this georgia park? (must be an echo in here ;))

My reference to that album was the band had just collectively urinated on a slab that reminded me of the Georgia Guidestones. I love their sense of humor, asking who is next to relieve themselves on the slab.

When Jackovesk had ideated blowing them up I suggested the Who's Next album cover as imagery for another approach towards them.

I guess too much subtlety does not work well.

subtlety understood. was really interested in the story behind the monolith and how they found it. just a slab of concrete then?

Well, I don't like to disappoint so here is a little background from wikipedia:

The album cover shows a photograph, taken at Easington Colliery, of the band apparently having just urinated on a large concrete piling protruding from a slag heap. According to photographer Ethan Russell, most of the members were unable to urinate, so rainwater was tipped from an empty film canister to achieve the desired effect. The photograph is often seen to be a reference to the monolith discovered on the moon in the film 2001: A Space Odyssey, which had been released only about three years earlier.


ironic how the members of 'the who' likely got "stage fright" in this very harmless situation. interesting story.

[karelia]

A few thoughts here: What we know of the cabal is that they love using symbology, they never speak in plain language, and they are control freaks. Now, look at the Georgia Guidestones. If they had been placed by the cabal, the monument would be phallic. This isn't. Look at the language, it's written in plain language. No twisting, nothing threatening, no "rule," only guidelines:

1. Maintain humanity under 500,000,000 in perpetual balance with nature.

It says maintain. It does NOT say reduce. Which leads me to believe that those Guidestones speak of a point in the future in which there are already fewer than 500m people in the world.

2. Guide reproduction wisely - improving fitness and diversity.

This essentially suggests that we should procreate consciously. That means we should stop having mindless sex that results in unexpected pregnancies.

3. Unite humanity with a living new language.

This is important. I can't speak for other languages, but I do know for a fact that both English and German have been watered down to the extent that it becomes hard to communicate. Being able to speak in plain language, without any twisting, is of utmost importance for communication, at least until we all regain our power to communicate telepathically.

4. Rule passion - faith - tradition - and all things with tempered reason.

Also important because if you don't view them with tempered reason, you'll soon have fanaticism.

5. Protect people and nations with fair laws and just courts.

If you've ever dealt with law in any respect, you know very well that we have neither fair laws nor just courts in the current paradigm.

6. Let all nations rule internally resolving external disputes in a world court.

This is just about the last thing the cabal wants. They're control freaks. They don't want nations to be independent from them.

7. Avoid petty laws and useless officials.

Yes, let's!

8. Balance personal rights with social duties.

That means essentially that everyone should share their knowledge with those who are learning. It is exactly the opposite of the secrecy the cabal rules with.

9. Prize truth - beauty - love - seeking harmony with the infinite.

Could this perhaps mean to aim vibrating on the frequency that is commonly referred to as Christ consciousness?

10.Be not a cancer on the earth - Leave room for nature - Leave room for nature.

In other words: Live in tune with nature.

[aroundthetable]

I'm not a mathematician but i think to take population from say 6 billion to half billion is a reduction.

[Lettherebelight]

I'm not a mathematician but i think to take population from say 6 billion to half billion is a reduction.

Lol! Priceless logic, Aroundthetable.

Even if the authors of said 'stones' don't intend to personally execute such a reduction, they are obviously in favour of it theoretically...which would make them guilty parties at least on the mental platform.

Some may find these 'guidestones' attractive, or carrying a valuable message for future generations, etc.

HOWEVER, FRIENDS...

The fact is, they were erected under covert conditions, their origins remain nebulous, no one will come forward and claim with pride responsibility for their creation.
Why hide in dark corners?

This in itself is enough to make an intelligent person question whether the motives for such a metamorphic declaration are of the light.

[witchy1]

Thank you Ted Turner and Agenda 21 (please read other threads re this)

[Lord Sidious]

I'm not a mathematician but i think to take population from say 6 billion to half billion is a reduction.

Not necessarily.
What if something happens, such as an asteroid hit that wipes those people out?
Then what they are saying is that they won't let the population climb again.

[aroundthetable]

Oh i see, they did because of a natural disaster. Very nice of the asteroid to be so precise. Who won't let it rise? How?

[Lord Sidious]

Oh i see, they did because of a natural disaster. Very nice of the asteroid to be so precise. Who won't let it rise? How?

Don't be dopey, either contribute or go play tiddley winks.
Or something.

[aroundthetable]

hmm............

[shybastid]

OK.
A good question came up about who owns the property. There has to be a public record of who owns the deed even for private property,including how many times it changed hands...So someone gave approval to place it on that spot.

Someone said it was commissioned at a local quarry and the owner was a 33rd mason. How do we know that? And NO ONE that works at the quarry has come forward about the actual build?

That alone seems strange.

Quarry guys are hard working blue collar types.

Hard to believe no one that worked there has not come forward,or at the least wouldn't be willing to share what they know.

ALL the quarry workers Masons too? (secret at all levels?)

You would think someone has already researched these leads.

Googling doesn't bring much light or insight.

[shiva777]

we will use pieces of the Georgia Guidestones to build the prisons for the so-called "elite" when their plans backfire...

[iceni tribe]

http://i753.photobucket.com/albums/xx171/naf09_2010/careD1.jpg

[blufire]

I know I’m not the sharpest tack in the box or the brightest bulb and I know I have a few screws loose and I absolutely know I have a few marbles rolling around here someplace . . .confounded things won’t stay put. . . . .

But . . . . . exactly how would a group of fallible humans take out several BILLION people spread over the entire planet. . . . all at once???

Even if they took out the population a million at time . . . think about the undertaking of such a feat . . . is this truly possible???

The only information that we have from ancient or past civilizations is the information carved in stone.

Perhaps who ever had these stones carved are subtly trying to warn us of an cataclysmic event . . . .an event that will leave only a few million people. Perhaps “they” are trying to give us “their” suggests or guidelines on how they would build the next civilization. If these stones were erected by the masons, illuminati, or tptb or grand poobah . . . wouldn’t they theoretically know if a cataclysmic event was coming, because they supposedly have all the ancient and current information??? Maybe it is a veiled warning . . . . one of those “he who has ears” kind of rhetoric.

I’m not saying they are correct and I certainly don’t feel these are “commandments”. Perhaps this is a well meaning individual or group that is trying to make a difference . . . in the way they/he/she sees it and have the money and land to have it displayed.

I agree with karelia’s post # 59. . . . .the suggestions seem very pragmatic to me.

Another thought . . . . . isn’t Georgia one of the areas where there has been a lot of UFO action??? Just saying . . . .

Obviously many here on Avalon oppose these “guidelines”. . . . How about if we make our own “Avalon Guidestones”?

[Hervé]

To get an idea as to what's in the stars for this planet, one could start with Velikosky and his "Worlds in Collision." The fact that he was ridiculed and "debunked" by the official academia might be a very strong indication he was somewhat eerily close to the truth. His approach of integrating myths and legends with scientific data is what was followed by the authors of "Thunderbolts Of the Gods."

Then there are these cyclical "extinction" events, every so-and-so years. For a comprehensive study of such, have a look at:

http://www.sott.net/articles/show/128992-Forget-About-Global-Warming-We-re-One-Step-From-Extinction-

For the short version, see this:

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Where, for short, the Nemesis/brown dwarf Sun binary plays pool/billiard with the Oort Cloud and sprays the system with a new set of bolides with each new passage... and where the older sets are still at play... compounding the probabilities.

[ceetee9]

I’ve done no research into these stones, but here are my initial thoughts on the stated 10 tenets on how to reshape/rebuild society:

1) Maintain humanity under 500,000,000 in perpetual balance with nature.

This number is the alleged “magic number” that has been bandied about by many groups who believe this is the number of people planet Earth can safely sustain. Oh yeah… and that would enable the ruling class to more easily control and keep enslaved as their worker bees. While it’s clear planet Earth has a finite size and resources and, arguably, 7 billion people may be straining those resources (e.g., we currently have about a billion people who are literally starving to death), I’d like to see some trustworthy scientific evidence as to what the real number that planet Earth can sustain. I do believe we all have a responsibility to not contribute to planetary overpopulation—unless, of course, we have no problem with condemning future generations to live like ants. I don’t subscribe to reducing the population (if necessary) by extermination, however. Attrition and responsible birth controls should be employed. The problem is: who gets to decide what responsible birth controls are and what punishments are appropriate for those who wish to breed like rabbits?

2) Guide reproduction wisely - improving fitness and diversity.

This is from the Eugenics movement started in the late 1800s, practiced by governments around the world (including the United States) and pushed to extreme by Hitler. Who gets to decide which genes are kept and which are removed from our DNA? Do you really trust a government authority (or one of its puppets) to make those decisions?

3) Unite humanity with a living new language.

This sounds like Orwell’s 1984 “newspeak.” While it may sound like a good idea on the surface (i.e., we can all communicate more easily with one another), when you dig deeper you find it’s more about controlling the way people think and communicate than it is about having a common language for communication. We’ve already started this to some degree by bastardizing the English language with the “politically correct” movement. Ooh, I shouldn’t have said that “b” word. Sorry if I offended anyone, not.

4) Rule passion - faith - tradition - and all things with tempered reason.

NWO concept with more controls (laws and regulations). Who gets to decide which passions, faith, traditions are acceptable and which ones aren’t? I mean, it’s pretty clear from the genius’ who are controlling us now that this doesn’t work out real well.

5) Protect people and nations with fair laws and just courts.

Another NWO concept with more controls. Who gets to decide what’s fair and just? Let me guess: the New World Order! Look at all the “fair” laws and “just” courts we have now in the US. Can anyone see a potential problem here with this statement?

6) Let all nations rule internally resolving external disputes in a world court.

World court? Can you say, New World Order? Where would the NWO jurisdiction begin and the nation’s rules end, or, more likely than not, where would the NWO jurisdiction END and the nation’s jurisdiction BEGIN? Who gets to decide? Maybe TPTWB?

7) Avoid petty laws and useless officials.

Totally ambiguous and worthless statement! Again, who decides what is a petty law and useless official? Offhand, given what we have today, I’d say all officials are useless and there are about a billion petty laws. So how does this statement fix that in the future?

8) Balance personal rights with social duties.

Who decides where the balance is and what constitutes a fair trade-off of personal rights for “social duty?” Sounds like more limitless controls to me that would give TPTWB (the-powers-that-will-be) free reign over us.

9) Prize truth - beauty - love - seeking harmony with the infinite.

Finally, an edict that makes sense! Well, you’ve got to dangle at least one carrot if you want the horse to bite.

10) Not a cancer on the earth - Leave room for nature - Leave room for nature.

Great idea! I wonder who gets to decide who/what is a cancer on the Earth and who/what isn’t? What if we carve out a square mile park on every continent for nature, do you think that that would meet the intent of this statement?

For me, these ten tenets for the NWO are just that—tenets for the NWO. No wonder the creator wants to remain anonymous.

We really have to start thinking outside the box. By now we all surely should know what doesn’t work. More rules and regulations and hierarchical controls is not what is needed. How about we start coming up with some fresh ideas that haven’t been tried before that extols the virtues of Love, TRUE Freedom and Respect for all life, nature and things? What a concept! Who knows, it just might work.

[Peacelovinman]

I’ve done no research into these stones, but here are my initial thoughts on the stated 10 tenets on how to reshape/rebuild society:

1) Maintain humanity under 500,000,000 in perpetual balance with nature.

This number is the alleged “magic number” that has been bandied about by many groups who believe this is the number of people planet Earth can safely sustain. Oh yeah… and that would enable the ruling class to more easily control and keep enslaved as their worker bees. While it’s clear planet Earth has a finite size and resources and, arguably, 7 billion people may be straining those resources (e.g., we currently have about a billion people who are literally starving to death), I’d like to see some trustworthy scientific evidence as to what the real number that planet Earth can sustain. I do believe we all have a responsibility to not contribute to planetary overpopulation—unless, of course, we have no problem with condemning future generations to live like ants. I don’t subscribe to reducing the population (if necessary) by extermination, however. Attrition and responsible birth controls should be employed. The problem is: who gets to decide what responsible birth controls are and what punishments are appropriate for those who wish to breed like rabbits?

2) Guide reproduction wisely - improving fitness and diversity.

This is from the Eugenics movement started in the late 1800s, practiced by governments around the world (including the United States) and pushed to extreme by Hitler. Who gets to decide which genes are kept and which are removed from our DNA? Do you really trust a government authority (or one of its puppets) to make those decisions?

3) Unite humanity with a living new language.

This sounds like Orwell’s 1984 “newspeak.” While it may sound like a good idea on the surface (i.e., we can all communicate more easily with one another), when you dig deeper you find it’s more about controlling the way people think and communicate than it is about having a common language for communication. We’ve already started this to some degree by bastardizing the English language with the “politically correct” movement. Ooh, I shouldn’t have said that “b” word. Sorry if I offended anyone, not.

4) Rule passion - faith - tradition - and all things with tempered reason.

NWO concept with more controls (laws and regulations). Who gets to decide which passions, faith, traditions are acceptable and which ones aren’t? I mean, it’s pretty clear from the genius’ who are controlling us now that this doesn’t work out real well.

5) Protect people and nations with fair laws and just courts.

Another NWO concept with more controls. Who gets to decide what’s fair and just? Let me guess: the New World Order! Look at all the “fair” laws and “just” courts we have now in the US. Can anyone see a potential problem here with this statement?

6) Let all nations rule internally resolving external disputes in a world court.

World court? Can you say, New World Order? Where would the NWO jurisdiction begin and the nation’s rules end, or, more likely than not, where would the NWO jurisdiction END and the nation’s jurisdiction BEGIN? Who gets to decide? Maybe TPTWB?

7) Avoid petty laws and useless officials.

Totally ambiguous and worthless statement! Again, who decides what is a petty law and useless official? Offhand, given what we have today, I’d say all officials are useless and there are about a billion petty laws. So how does this statement fix that in the future?

8) Balance personal rights with social duties.

Who decides where the balance is and what constitutes a fair trade-off of personal rights for “social duty?” Sounds like more limitless controls to me that would give TPTWB (the-powers-that-will-be) free reign over us.

9) Prize truth - beauty - love - seeking harmony with the infinite.

Finally, an edict that makes sense! Well, you’ve got to dangle at least one carrot if you want the horse to bite.

10) Not a cancer on the earth - Leave room for nature - Leave room for nature.

Great idea! I wonder who gets to decide who/what is a cancer on the Earth and who/what isn’t? What if we carve out a square mile park on every continent for nature, do you think that that would meet the intent of this statement?

For me, these ten tenets for the NWO are just that—tenets for the NWO. No wonder the creator wants to remain anonymous.

We really have to start thinking outside the box. By now we all surely should know what doesn’t work. More rules and regulations and hierarchical controls is not what is needed. How about we start coming up with some fresh ideas that haven’t been tried before that extols the virtues of Love, TRUE Freedom and Respect for all life, nature and things? What a concept! Who knows, it just might work.

That pretty much sums it up for me also.

Number 8 is certainly a red flag to me - this is communitarian policy. What it is saying is that it is selfish to have individual rights and that individual rights should be "balanced out" (in other words "ridden roughshod over") by the "community".

Communitarian thinking is at the core of the so-called New World Order yet so many in the alternative media are ignorant of it. Check out the work of Niki Raapana (http://www.nikiraapana.com/) for more information.

[noxon medem]

- the only sentence, in the guiding, that is repeated twice :

- Leave room for nature - Leave room for nature

In the old days the word "the world" was used to describe what you could see
from the nearest mountain or top, in the regional neighbourhood ...

Have to look closer at the images, but on the english version of the tablets
it seems the number of humans (if that is what it is) happen to be out of
balance and "style" from the rest of the stone and the inscriptions .
And quite a bit out of proportion .

- it's Like they ran out of space, to make enough zeros,
or maybe that number wasn't ment to be there in the first place.
Could be,
Maybe it wasn't realy that well thought thru ..

6435
(img. from post #41)

The whole first paragraph
or

1)Maintain humanity in perpetual balance with nature.

Who knows. ( And we love speculations, a bit addicted, actually :))
:-)

Keep humanity under 500.000.000 of what ?
- is that a question ?

6434
(img. from post #36)

would like to know what is written on
the plaque to the left low background in above image.
Anyone who's been there ? (looks like a nice place)

Can be read it in many ways, the text.
It is only guidelines after all, from someone,
or someones, point of view.

(- It's not like it is written in stone, right ?)
:jester:

Would be interesting to hear or read a direct translation
of the other stones in the monument .
The other languages .
Nuances are allways important. And here are, and
is, at least, four lingual and cultural, perspectives.

Referencepoints

This is an important and interesting topic.
Will try to read more about it, study and search, perhaps .
And possibly expand on this post, or make a new one, later ..

:fish2:

[str8thinker]

(blufire) exactly how would a group of fallible humans take out several BILLION people spread over the entire planet. . . . all at once???

No, no. Softly softly catchee monkey. All you need to do is to ensure that the rate of population reduction (by war, famine, disease, chemical pollution, ionizing radiation, etc.) slightly exceeds the rate of natural increase. Then just sit back and let time take its course. Remember ETs live for several hundred years, so they can afford to wait.

[noxon medem]

(blufire) exactly how would a group of fallible humans take out several BILLION people spread over the entire planet. . . . all at once???

No, no. Softly softly catchee monkey. All you need to do is to ensure that the rate of population reduction (by war, famine, disease, chemical pollution, ionizing radiation, etc.) slightly exceeds the rate of natural increase. Then just sit back and let time take its course. Remember ETs live for several hundred years, so they can afford to wait.

And Humans can live for many hundreds of lives .
- or so, we know .

So who, if any, has eternity on their side ?

(! that game can go on forever )

Maybe infinity .....
is a better perspective,
or more neutral
in some equations ..

.)

[Maia Gabrial]

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Even though these stones were only built in the 1970's no one knows who the man, or who the group he supposedly represented, are or why they built this monument. He did say that it was intended to be a clock, compass, and calendar for the new world. The structure was completed in 1980. R.C. Christian stated upfront that his name was a pseudonym.

Anyone with more info on these please share

Original link check it out http://www.unsolvedrealm.com/2011/05/21/americas-stonehenge-the-mysterious-georgia-guidestones/


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgia_Guidestones

Brad Meltzer's TV show decoded did a full episode on this I think it is worth a watch.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PIUtUVSheC4&feature=player_detailpage

calz avaretard has a similar thread, and there are others, I am sure. I am purplelama, too.

IMO, the Guidestones are an insult to humanity. Whoever commissioned them knew that people would be offended by the message. I disagree that the message is one of hope for a better world. It's a definite warning that many will die to satisfy this population 500 million objective. It even implies murder to accomplish this. Think about it. Where else would 6 billion people go...?

What these secretive psychos need to realize is that THEIR new world shouldn't fair any better than ours because OURS is being intentionally brought to ruin. Why shouldn't theirs be ruined, too? Universal Law and all that, right? If our new world were built on love and freedom, it would succeed where all the others failed.

I've always wondered why someone hadn't braved the chance to piss on or blow up the stones....Ah, perchance to sling some cow manure at it.... Hence, the police surveillance cameras...

Long live Earth's humanity,
Maia



I agree with Maia. The guidestone are an insult. I've heard a couple different things about maintaining 500million ppl. I think that is BS tho. Earth can handle billions and if we souls get invited to come to earth then why would earth continue to invite if it's to much for her to handle. Yes I've heard BS about it creates a food crisis but I dont believe that either. There is so much land that can be farmed that it would provide the food needed, only problem is farmers are getting screwed all the time. Alot just give up and any new farmers dont make it either.

Now I believe there is a limit but I dont think mother earth has reached it yet but it's getting very close tho.

[karelia]

Hi all,

Newbie mod here. We've merged the threads, and in the process today's five posts accidentally morphed into one post. My sincere apologies.

[Steven]

Hi, you might want to take a look at the Club of Rome. http://www.modernhistoryproject.org/mhp/ArticleDisplay.php?Article=FinalWarn08-5

They were and still are promoting ideas of the kind found on the Georgia guide stones. See their first book (1972) Limit to growth http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Limits_to_Growth

Of course, they talk about limiting the growth of the population, not the economical growth which is at the root of the problem.

Namaste, Streven

[greybeard]

My thought is that the stones are there for survivors if something of epic proportion happens and the human race is reduced greatly.
It is perhaps making positive suggestions for the future and may not apply for quite some time.
You could say the Mayans did the same for our present civilization.

Chris

[K626]

No one ruling elite has the capacity to arrange any kind of mass de-population intervention.

Meteor strikes on the planet that are of an extinction level are very, very rare.

The true nature of the guidstones are probably wholly mundane.

cheers

K

edit

The next closest bypass is in 2082 of a near earth collision (that still means many hundreds of thousands of miles out).


!On the other hand, more than 70 countries have (as of mid-2007) a total fertility rate of less than 2! Without immigration or an increase in total fertility rates, all of these countries will have declining populations over the next few decades. Some of the lowest total fertility rates include developed as well as developing countries alike. For example: Singapore at 1.07, Lithuania at 1.21, Czech Republic at 1.22, Japan at 1.23, and even Canada at 1.61 (the European Union as a whole has a very low total fertility rate of 1.5!)

The total fertility rate for the United States is just below replacement value at 2.09 and the total fertility rate for the world is 2.59, down from 2.8 in 2002 and 5.0 in 1965. China's one-child policy definitely shows in the country's total low fertility rate of 1.75."

[RedeZra]

Thank you Ted Turner and Agenda 21


To Ted


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[Isostool]

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[craig mitchell]

The first time I found out about these "guidestones", I admit I smelled a rat, and haven't changed my mind....except sometimes it smells more like a dead fish. Who the hell has the hubris to produce, erect, and keep secret the origins of these behemoth bullocks? Well, let me guess.....could it be the usual suspects setting up the grand chessboard? Yea, I think so too....and phew, it stinks! One thing I can say for these miscreants, is that at least they are consistent.

Regards, Craig.

[mosquito]

However, if one looks at the Guidestones as literal "guidestones" to a population that has been greatly reduced in numbers by some sort of disaster, they now seem to convey a message of, "Don't make the same mistake again. Respect one another and your environment because things have a tendency to go full circle." Might this be their purpose?

Could not have said it better myself. Thanks Dale.

Likewise.

I'm not trying to be pedantic, merely accurate, guideline number one reads "Maintain humanity under 500,000,000 in perpetual balance with nature", which DOES NOT mean slaughter/masscre 6 billion people ! So I think Dale has hit the nail on the head.

It does however beg the question of exactly how we are supposed to maintain the population at that, or any other, level.

[mosquito]

Just finished reading the whole thread, and I must say I don't think I've seen anything yet which has pressed people's buttons to such an extent. Doesn't it just show that we each interpret things according to our own preconceptions ? Maybe (and I'm just offering this as a suggestion) we all need to look at how we react to this, and other contentious issues, and work on where our fears are co ming from.

I'm basically an anarchist, in the true meaning of the word - "no ruler", I don't accept anyone's right to govern me, legislate against my humanity, tell me what I can and can't do. But life over the last few years has shown me that if we are to live together in a peaceful community, we will certainly need guidance, social agreements and maybe even rules (and believe me, I hate rules. An example, for those of you who don't like number 8 :-

Let's just imagine you're living in your ideal community, no police, no laws, no politicans, no controllers. You live in harmony with those around you and with your environment. Then someone new comes along and wishes to join your community. At first everything is fine, he seems to fit in well, and then it becomes clear that he wishes to exert his "free will" by f**king your children. What are you going to do ? Sit round holding hands saying "om" ? I doubt it.

As for number 2, let me give you a living example :-

I used to live in Peru. My girlfriend came from a family of 9 children, her parents lived on a raft on the river Amazon, they had NO money, no reliable income. Her mother had 10 brothers and sisters, her father 9. My girlfriend had over 100 cousins, she didn't know them all !. One of her sisters had already had 3 children by the age of 20, the eldest being 6 years old (and you can do the maths around that one yourselves). Her other sister, 26 years old, had 4 children, each with a different father, like most of the population in that part of the world, she too had no income.
This city in Peru was and probably still is teeming with children who were abandoned by their charming parents. Is this wise reproduction ?

My point is that if we are to live together in a harmonious community, we will have responsibilities toward one another, and sometimes your precious (illusory) free will might just have to take a back seat.

I don't like the idea of any form of government, I'm much more inclined toward a council of elders, men and women who've earned their position of responsibility and demonstrated their wisdom, NOT a bunch of self-serving parasites who've actively sought power over others.

[craig mitchell]

I don't like the idea of any form of government, I'm much more inclined toward a council of elders, men and women who've earned their position of responsibility and demonstrated their wisdom, NOT a bunch of self-serving parasites who've actively sought power over others.

Yea, yea, I can dig it, but the operable word here in your post is, of course, WISDOM and I've sensed (as in "phew it stinks") in the "stones" a lack or total disregard for demonstrating the power of a wise elder who has earned their position in society's respect because of longstanding human values held in highest regard.

Regards, Craig

Ps perhaps someone could volunteer to make tiny little stones of these largish ones and then pave the road to our bright shinny future with 'em?

[Lord Sidious]

I don't like the idea of any form of government, I'm much more inclined toward a council of elders, men and women who've earned their position of responsibility and demonstrated their wisdom, NOT a bunch of self-serving parasites who've actively sought power over others.

Like the druids.

[Seikou-Kishi]

I don't like the idea of any form of government, I'm much more inclined toward a council of elders, men and women who've earned their position of responsibility and demonstrated their wisdom, NOT a bunch of self-serving parasites who've actively sought power over others.

Like the druids.

I think of Bill as the Archdruid of Avalon... the idea is quite fitting, considering this is Avalon :D

[mosquito]

What's going on here ? I posted on this thread this morning, only to now find my post has vanished ......

[Seikou-Kishi]

What's going on here ? I posted on this thread this morning, only to now find my post has vanished ......

I believe the thread was merged with an earlier thread, it's possible it could have been lost during the transition. I will check to see if anybody is aware of what could have happened.


Edit:

Ah it was my fault! I seem to have deleted the posts in trying to delete a third post by a second poster (who requested the deletion of his own post). The accidentally deleted posts have been restored.

[mosquito]

A couple of obsrvations :

1) I've been trying to find a clear image of the Chinese stone, without much luck. Looking at what I have found however, I can see that it's written in traditional Chinese, not too much can be inferred from that, it would have been more intriguing had it been written in simplified script. The script is quite stylized and the characters are uniform and harmonious, meaning that it was the work of someone who knew what they were doing. Carving Chinese characters is an art form, you couldn't just hand some stencils to a European carver and expect them to produce anything like this. I imagine the same goes for the Arabic stone. Now, assuming the stone wasn't carved in China and then shipped back to Georgia, all without anyone knowing, it shouldn't be impossible to track down the carver - I can't imagine the USA was overflowing with Chinese carvers in the 70s.

2) As to the stones being the work of Eugenicists, this may well be the case, except why produce a stone in Swahili ? Eugenicists aren't renowned for their respect of Africans. Swahili isn't among the world's most widely spoken languages, so that's not the explanation.

We need someone like Hercule Poirot to get to the bottom of this !

[witchy1]

It does however beg the question of exactly how we are supposed to maintain the population at that, or any other, level
Hi mariposafe, here is a link that you might (or may not) find useful

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/esp_sociopol_depopu.htm#Additional_Information

and a small portion of what is available on that link



- A History Timeline of Population Control (http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/esp_sociopol_depopu20.htm)
- Mercados Alimentarios - Arma de Destrucción Masiva (http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/ciencia_industryweapons05.htm)
- Next Generation Bioweapons (http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/ciencia_virus08.htm) - Genetic Engineering and Biological Warfare
- Non-Lethal Weapons (http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/ciencia_nonlethalweapons.htm) - "Psychotronics" and "Silent Sound"- Main File
- Overt Solicitation of Humans (http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/esp_sociopol_depopu26.htm)
- Poisoning of Mankind (http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/esp_sociopol_depopu24.htm) - Blood Types, Copper Deficiency, Evolution Theory & Illuminati
- Population Control (http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/policestate_roadmap/policestate_roadmap14.htm)- from (http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/esp_sociopol_depopu10.htm)'The Police State Road Map' by Michael Nield
- Population "Control" (http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/esp_sociopol_depopu10.htm)- New World Order Style (http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/esp_sociopol_depopu10.htm)

- Population Control (http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/esp_sociopol_skullbones07.htm) - The Order of the Skull & Bones, the Eugenic Societies and Population Control Org.
- Profitable Depopulation Plot Links JP Morgan-Chase and Goldman Sachs To Vaccination Contaminations and (http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/esp_sociopol_depopu58.htm)...
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- The Mass Media as Human Pesticide (http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/sociopol_mediacontrol50.htm)
- The Mass Poisoning of Humanity - An Exploration of Human Stupidity (http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/esp_sociopol_depopu34.htm)
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- The Report From Iron Mountain (http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/esp_sociopol_ironmountain.htm) - Main File
- Agenda 21 - The Earth Summit (http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/esp_sociopol_depopu05.htm#AGENDA 21 - THE EARTH SUMMIT)
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- Codex Alimentarius (http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/ciencia_industryweapons07.htm) - Lecture by Ian R. Crane
- Eugenics (http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/esp_sociopol_depopu50.htm) - From "END GAME" Official Movie
- Food - The Ultimate Secret Exposed (http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/sociopol_globalfood07.htm)
- George Green on Depopulation and The Pleiadians (http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/esp_sociopol_depopu37.htm)
- Granada Forum Lecture - Dr. Bill Deagle (http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/esp_sociopol_underground27.htm)
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- Mercados Alimentarios - Arma de Destrucción Masiva: 1 (http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/ciencia_industryweapons05.htm#El_Proyecto_Matriz_22), 2 (http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/ciencia_industryweapons05.htm#El_Proyecto_Matriz_23), 3 (http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/ciencia_industryweapons05.htm#El_Proyecto_Matriz_24)
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- Nutricide - Criminalizing Natural Health, Vitamins, and Herbs (http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/esp_sociopol_depopu36.htm#Video)
- Population Control - The Eugenics Connection (http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/esp_sociopol_depopu53.htm)
- The Georgia Guidestones - A Warning (http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/sociopol_georgiaguidestones05.htm)...
- The Strecker Memorandum (http://javascript<b></b>:getPage('sociopolitica/esp_sociopol_depopu_videostreckermemorandum.htm',406,332);)
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- Through The Eyes Of A Slave (http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/sociopol_globalelite35.htm#Through The Eyes Of A Slave)
- WARNING ALERT - New NWO Mass Depopulation Agenda (http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/esp_sociopol_depopu44.htm) - Google Georgia Guidestones Eugenics TransHumanism
- Warning To The World (http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/esp_sociopol_depopu46.htm)
- What The NWO Doesn't Want You to Know About (http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/esp_sociopol_depopu54.htm#What_The_NWO_Doesnt_Want_You_to_Know_About_) - Kevin Trudeau on Alex Jones TV

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Books


- Brave New World (http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/archivos_pdf/bravenewworld2.pdf)Revisited (http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/archivos_pdf/bravenewworld2.pdf) - by Aldous Huxley
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- Suppressed Inventions and Other Discoveries (http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/supressed_inventions/suppressed_inventions.htm) - True Stories of Suppression, Scientific Cover-ups... - by Jonathan Eisen
- The First Global Revolution (http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/sociopol_firstglobalrevolution.htm) - A Report by The Council of The Club of Rome - by Alexander King and Bertrand Schneider

[mosquito]

Thanks Witchy1, My question was not so much about how the control system can enforce birth control, I'm aware of that. I was endeavouring to think of a way that this could be achieved in a non-abusive way, in order to be congruent with the idea that the stones are merely there as a post-cataclysmic guideline.

[ulli]

I think the whole idea of cataclysm should be reevalued. A lot of the talk seems to be a trickle coming from obscure sources. I've had premonition dreams only to discover that they were symbolic, and might correlate to what was going on in my personal life, even though in the dream it looked like it was a collective event.

So volcanic activities would announce anger, while water dreams preceded grief, and air or tornado dreams were about heavy mental activity periods that required a lot of thinking.

Now I'm consciously tempering my inner climate and strongly feel that when more people learn to do this then the outer world will also change.

The one's who will have the greatest upheavals would be the elite, as they have a lot more to lose, and so they have a greater conviction that the world will end.
This belief is a product of their subconscious, where they can see their own future time line in it's logical conclusion.
Even their scientists, thinking they are seeing hard facts, when in reality it's part of the same expectation....since they are always scanning the horizon for an imaginairy threat, as it were.
Until finally the universe gives them what they were focusing on, such is it's nature.
It is THEIR world which will end.

If enough positive thinkers can throw out a happier vision or more gentle transition process then it will surly come to pass.

The world will not end, not for a long, long time.

[lunaflare]

Maybe these guide-points are taken from a planet (or planets) that exist "somewhere" in the cosmos.
These planets may have similar elements (human beings/animals/fauna) similar to Planet Earth.
These planets may be in "balance". In other words, a successful experiement-one not heading for nuclear destruction

I agree that maintain does not mean reduce.
No intention of "slaughtering" was rendered when I heard/read these words.
Do we have the ability to travel to other planets/dimensions via stargates/portals?

no "slaughtering" needed

[Martin]

Yes indeed the inscriptions don't say anything about a reduction of earth's population, but quit frankly 500.000.000 seems a little bit pointless. We could do just fine as of right now. I do not think that the earth is drastically over-populated and I really wouldn't want to be the one who had to make a judgement about how many human beeings should be "allowed" to be on this planet.

And in the end it would need a drastic reduction of human beeings to accomplish the set "guideline" on earth's populations, so for me it really is just about semantics. For all I know the guidestones could have come from little greenish space-dwelling kangaroos who just wanted to have a good laugh or two! ^^


MfG

Martin

[ulli]

I still maintain that the number 500 000 000 could have been an error.
The construction worker got mixed up and forgot one zero.
Not sure if the population was exactly at 5 billion at the time the stones were made, something one could find out.

If it was then there would be no reason to fuss, except that those who paid for the job should have at least gone back there and checked it was done properly.
It's easy to overlook something like that.

[craig mitchell]

Now I'm consciously tempering my inner climate and strongly feel that when more people learn to do this then the outer world will also change.


It is THEIR world which will end.

If enough positive thinkers can throw out a happier vision or more gentle transition process then it will surly come to pass.

The world will not end, not for a long, long time.[/QUOTE]

This also ties in with jumping time lines
They will have their world in third density and are working hard to suck as many into their private hell hole as possible
Those that can see the coming of a greater creation during this nexus of time lines that we are in right now, have the opportunity to attune themselves to the fourth or fifth density earth and can produce that New Reality, leaving behind the lower frequency third density
So Ulli, you are certainly correct in your statement of a a positive and happier vision, though it gets a tad tricky to live in this time line while simultaneously creating our bright future in the preferred time line

Regards, Craig

[ulli]

I still maintain that the number 500 000 000 could have been an error.
The construction worker got mixed up and forgot one zero.
Not sure if the population was exactly at 5 billion at the time the stones were made, something one could find out.

If it was then there would be no reason to fuss, except that those who paid for the job should have at least gone back there and checked it was done properly.
It's easy to overlook something like that.

some additional thoughts on this scenario:
perhaps the person that owned the land prefered to spend his savings on having these stones put up,
with his utopian world view, rather than let the wife inherit it.

Stuff like that has been known to happen, too.
Let's be realistic here....;)

[ulli]

I'm consciously tempering my inner climate and strongly feel that when more people learn to do this then the outer world will also change.



It is THEIR world which will end.

If enough positive thinkers can throw out a happier vision or more gentle transition process then it will surly come to pass.

The world will not end, not for a long, long time.[/B]


This also ties in with jumping time lines
They will have their world in third density and are working hard to suck as many into their private hell hole as possible
Those that can see the coming of a greater creation during this nexus of time lines that we are in right now, have the opportunity to attune themselves to the fourth or fifth density earth and can produce that New Reality, leaving behind the lower frequency third density
So Ulli, you are certainly correct in your statement of a a positive and happier vision, though it gets a tad tricky to live in this time line while simultaneously creating our bright future in the preferred time line

Regards, Craig[/QUOTE]


Agreed, Craig, tricky indeed.

One somehow has to live the life one wants to envision. Many of my visions have come to pass already, but still, while the body is not getting younger the bigger challenges remain.

When I compliment an artist painter on their work, often I compliment them not so much on the content of their painting
as on the effort they have put into it.

[MoSh187]

I agree with everything except the super low human population... World peace is grand and all but can we do this WITHOUT killing off most of the population? I just hope that in this new age and new world that we will still have our humanity intact. Wait a second... I thought a new world order is what we are trying to stop? So many unanswered IMPORTANT questions I believe people should discuss more.

[mosquito]

I still maintain that the number 500 000 000 could have been an error.
The construction worker got mixed up and forgot one zero.

I can knock that one on the head for you Ulli, the Chinese stone says ...... 五億 以下
the first character, Wu means 5, the second, Yi, means 100,000,000 the next 2 characters YiXia mean "below"

Nice idea though ! ;)

[ulli]

I still maintain that the number 500 000 000 could have been an error.
The construction worker got mixed up and forgot one zero.

I can knock that one on the head for you Ulli, the Chinese stone says ...... 五億 以下
the first character, Wu means 5, the second, Yi, means 100,000,000 the next 2 characters YiXia mean "below"

Nice idea though ! ;)

I'm not giving up yet.
Neat that you can read those Chinese characters...
Now, here's my new attempt at a harmless scenario:

It took them a while to find the various translators, ok?
So the English version was already done.
All the other stones came later and were based on the writings on the first one, which had already the mistake on it.

But certainly there must be a registry where one could find out who owned the land at the time those stones were erected...

Hey, maybe the owner was George Green......he had the money...and he was also the first person from whom I heard about the stones...
Stunned silence.

Wow...now, THERE'S an idea, hehe....material for a story here

[Martin]

You sure want those stones to be erected with all the best intentions, do you? Maybe Santa did it and he couldn't have done it in ill will now could he? :P

Martin

[Steven]

I still maintain that the number 500 000 000 could have been an error.

Unfortunately, it is not. The number 500 millions comes back from other sources and studies. For example, the Club of Rome maintained is 1972 number of 750 millions. Their are numerous group of people on Earth that promote this number. They are all linked somewhat to the ruling class.

You can find a lot of different groups on the net that promotes 500 milions or 750 milions people as a key number ideal for the Earth. Global Community is one: http://globalcommunitywebnet.com/globalcommunity/overpopulatedplanet.htm
Or Overpopulatedplanet here: http://www.overpopulation.org/
We even had one member here once, promoting this number. He was part of a large American group and they had even a petition online.

What obviously lack in their analysis, is a total discrimination of the actual way of life driven by the economical model. Other studies shows that the Earth carrying capacity depends on the consumption/production rate. It looks a little bit like the 'global warming' issue. It is a problem twisted and presented to the world in a way that the solutions brought are exactly in the agenda of the Elite. The problem is not the number of people alone, it is to be considered greatly that our way of life of waste and consumption with eternal economical growth is totally insane.

Namaste, Steven

[ulli]

You sure want those stones to be erected with all the best intentions, do you? Maybe Santa did it and he couldn't have done it in ill will now could he? :P

Martin


Exactly! The Santa Stones of Georgia. Good one. I will ask Santa.

Maybe one project we here at Avalon could organize, and we have enough translaters here, is to send a delegation to Georgia, with step ladder, hammer and chissle, and change the number by adding an extra zero, late one night.
Mariposafe will know what to do about the Chinese character.

That would still leave us with the problem of what would happen to nearly 2 billion people....
Perhaps they will leave voluntarily, never to return to earth, after the horrors they experienced here...
Especially if they had to live in a highly polluted industrialized zone.

[noxon medem]

A dear friend of mine chose to leave, some days ago .
Rest in bliss, my friend .
And you know what ...
( maybe be more How, next time ..)

- and here :
instrumental :violin::drum: :music: :horn:

:)

Here is an image to his memory :

7713
- Be at peace, jp .

BTW: There is plenty of room for everyone .
If mind, creativity, resource, will and labour
all work in the same general direction ....

( like constructing instead of destruction ..)..

all well
nm

[RedeZra]

See how easy it is to trick people

just say 'maintain' instead of 'reduce' ; )

fooled yah