Do You Think A Utopian Reality Is Possible?

[azure]

Hello people :)

I am very interested in what others think. Would you like to see a Utopian society flourish? Do you think it is possible?

I personally think that it is very much a probability and that maybe at one time humanity once rejoiced in a world where peace and co-existence was the norm on our dear Mother Earth.

What would be your ideal reality?

Mines would be endless feasting, rejoicing, healing and restoring the planet and all other living things, dancing and endless barbeque :P

[thewebkid]

Yes, and there are two other threads discussing this. You are on the same page with us. I love it.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?15514-I-like-you&p=165359#post165359 is my thread (read the whole thread, but this links to the post that I get into the architecture ideas)

And this awesome thread from Chico:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?15249-United-People-an-Alternative-World-Order

[red_rose]

Hi Azure - welcome to the forum!!

My utopia would be seeing the joy of joy in every beings eyes.

(I've now said 'joy' too many times and it feels weird and foreign...did I make the word up?)

red_rose

[king anthony]

Is it not, as when two people 'randomly' meet, they begin to talk and soon after others join. As the minutes, turn to hours, they realize that what started as random not only became a time of great conversation, but also a great time enjoyed by all. As all depart the next morning, they realize that such an event could never have been planned.

[azure]

Yes, and there are two other threads discussing this. You are on the same page with us. I love it.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?15514-I-like-you&p=165359#post165359 is my thread (read the whole thread, but this links to the post that I get into the architecture ideas)

And this awesome thread from Chico:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?15249-United-People-an-Alternative-World-Order

Thank you for the links! Glad we are on the same page as well :) <3



Hi Azure - welcome to the forum!!

My utopia would be seeing the joy of joy in every beings eyes.

(I've now said 'joy' too many times and it feels weird and foreign...did I make the word up?)

red_rose



Hey Red Rose! Thanks so much for the warm welcome :)

That has to be one of the main things that really moves my spirit, to see joy and the very soul of a person radiating in their eyes. It is one of the most loveliest sights. Children's laughter is something I love to hear. LOL perhaps joy is a fav word that speaks to you. I like the phrase 'kindred spirits'.

[thewebkid]

BTW, welcome Azure.

It seems as the forum has undergone a shake up that there are new fresh perspectives. Super glad that there is this and two other threads discussing a new cohesive model. I like that you are here.

A think tank is emerging. Anyone getting tingles?

[red_rose]

BTW, welcome Azure.

It seems as the forum has undergone a shake up that there are new fresh perspectives. Super glad that there is this and two other threads discussing a new cohesive model. I like that you are here.

A think tank is emerging. Anyone getting tingles?

My adrenalin is soaring, I'm doing the 'Riverdance' whilst typing, I'm so excited!

red_rose

[truthseekerdan]

Sorry got an error... Double post!

[truthseekerdan]

Hello people :)

I am very interested in what others think. Would you like to see a Utopian society flourish? Do you think it is possible?

I personally think that it is very much a probability and that maybe at one time humanity once rejoiced in a world where peace and co-existence was the norm on our dear Mother Earth.

What would be your ideal reality?

Mines would be endless feasting, rejoicing, healing and restoring the planet and all other living things, dancing and endless barbeque :P

It is possible that's why I started this thread that explains how it could be achieved by Unity Consciousness.

Check it out here: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?15573-Calling-for-transformation-March-09-2011

Love ~ Dan

[OmeyocaN777]

Hi azure and welcome
Well, utopia i think it's our destiny(nothing stays the same)..........if we don't destroy ourselves first.
My utopia it's starts with the release of Free Energy and Technology that it would help us recover Mother Earth and it would bring Unity of all things.
Important at start is True Education also, it would help us to wake up from "matrix" and to have Understading/ONE/Love(true motives - intentions)
The rest will follow natural......!
I believe we can return Earth to paradise if we Want to.
Is just a frequency.......
(there where is a "want", a path will "open")

[Dale]

In my opinion, I do believe that a "Utopian Civilization" is completely possible.

Once we, as a collective, can evolve beyond the need to harm one another, and understand that we're each interconnected, I believe we'll be ready to form such a civilization. We're not at that stage yet, but I am optimistic that we'll one day arrive at the doorstep of such a time when we can establish a mutual, nondestructive, way of living.

[Sarlic]

Watched a clip of a new city being built in the desert on the bbc the other night which looked very cool.
Not 100% sure about it though as you would be very controlled but the idea is nice.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4zh0p2veZk&feature=fvwrel

[red_rose]

Is it not, as when two people 'randomly' meet, they begin to talk and soon after others join. As the minutes, turn to hours, they realize that what started as random not only became a time of great conversation, but also a great time enjoyed by all. As all depart the next morning, they realize that such an event could never have been planned.

That made me want to go outside and 'randomly' start talking to people. It's hard functioning in society when one has an alternative mindset. I tend to hide away in my own world, but your words made me quell my negative expectations and want to give people a chance, again.

red_rose

[azure]

Hi azure and welcome
Well, utopia i think it's our destiny(nothing stays the same)..........if we don't destroy ourselves first.
My utopia it's starts with the release of Free Energy and Technology that it would help us recover Mother Earth and it would bring Unity of all things.
Important at start is True Education also, it would help us to wake up from "matrix" and to have Understading/ONE/Love(true motives - intentions)
The rest will follow natural......!
I believe we can return Earth to paradise if we Want to.
Is just a frequency.......
(there where is a "want", a path will "open")


Wow, yes I agree with you, especially about frequency. I think we are returning to Paradise <3




In my opinion, I do believe that a "Utopian Civilization" is completely possible.

Once we, as a collective, can evolve beyond the need to harm one another, and understand that we're each interconnected, I believe we'll be ready to form such a civilization. We're not at that stage yet, but I am optimistic that we'll one day arrive at the doorstep of such a time when we can establish a mutual, nondestructive, way of living.

Dale, hopefully we shall see it happen in our lifetime! If I am not here to witness, I will be looking from afar ..

[buckminster fuller]

Step back.. Have a good look at the world... Try to project it in 50/100 years time.. There I see a utopia.

peace

[Snowbird]

Watched a clip of a new city being built in the desert on the bbc the other night which looked very cool.
Not 100% sure about it though as you would be very controlled but the idea is nice.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4zh0p2veZk&feature=fvwrel

This is a very interesting concept for living Sarlic. Although it continues to support the corporate vision for what they gently term one planet living. It also appears that this community will only house those who have direct connections with the corporations that will keep it running.

Let's hope that this video is allowed to remain on this thread.


FyghLnbp20U

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FyghLnbp20U

[Oliver]

A way to Utopia:

http://users.erols.com/jonwill/index.html

Blessings!

[Nasu]

I believe we can all envision a Utopian society, if we have successfully lived with another spirit in a mutually harmonious way, you then know it can be achieved.

However, we are all just one step away from savagery, should our circumstance change for the worst, poverty and desperation will make a moral person kill, steal, hoard, lie, etc, etc. In my opinion this next step in our path needs to focus on these first and foremost. Without poverty or desperation the sheltered spirit is afforded a moment of pause, a time to either reflect or learn. From this small seed a vast Utopian forest could grow.

I like the sound of endless feasting, rejoicing, healing and restoring the planet and all other living things, dancing and endless barbecues, but from a practical and moral standpoint, too much of a good thing can become bad, if we continue to milk the cow past time we draw blood not milk. Every feast must come to an end, I wonder if I would enjoy the festivities as much if I were part of the clean up or serving crew? Perhaps we could sort out a rota, half the world serves the others half's needs, we could rotate on Wednesdays?

One of the key stumbling blocks will be a form of reward for those who have more drive or understanding than others, how do you reward such enthusiasm and interest, or simply harder work? Clearly communism is not the answer, nor feudalism or the free market that if left un-checked will sell our grandchildren's needs for the sake of our childrens. Lastly, a sticky point given our history; defense, defense of this society must be incorporated, not for any sake other than its own, look at how close Tibet came to being a Utopian society, China saw the lack of defense as an opportunity and pulled a Sun Zu, such lessons must me considered.

As one free slave to another, I do dream we can find a way to make it happen. An all-time great free-er of slaves said it best - "Every great dream begins with a dreamer." - Harriet Tubman

[phillipbbg]

The Utopian Reality for me is happening now, just love the journey, the expansion of experiences and the evolving nature of life. What a great moment in time to be in this reality.

[Nasu]

Ok, so being serious for one moment, any real ideas on this topic? In the spirit of getting the ball rolling some more;

Clearly, given some of the future variables that are being presented to us, a command and control style of governance is inappropriate, any structure with a strong chain of command is liable to infiltration and subversion from the top down.

For example a strait-forward chain of responsibility or command of say merely ten levels ultimately means #'s 1 through 8 will be unlikely to ever meet #10, this gives anyone or any entity the opportunity to replace or subvert #9 or #10 and then control the whole group with ease. We see this situation around us everywhere.

Therefore, for this Utopian society to flourish I suggest a bottom up approach, a cell like structure if you like. As autonomous units or cells, guided by mutually agreed directives, the society as a cohesive whole would act independently, but ultimately be moving in the same direction. Elimination of any part does not mean extermination of the whole. Mutual directives could include;

1. Love.
2. Survive.
3. Sustainably grow.
4. Gather and protect knowledge.

The rest I leave to you...

[Lost Soul]

Yes, but not now. The great cleansing will come first.

[Teakai]

Hi Azure - I would say a Utopian society as you've presented it - can only exist without ego.

Some of the things a Utopian society would contain in my list is the unlimited, unrestricted access to all wisdom and knowledge that exists both esoteric and exoteric. Creativity would flourish and there would be no economic system.

[Mike Gorman]

The idea of Utopia, or an ideal society goes back a long way-I believe Plato was one of the
first to put the concept into a coherent 'proposal' in 'The Republic'. I suppose it is one the really big ideas;
we know life could be much better for all if certain conditions were allowed to emerge-but the equally ancient
qualities of greed, lust for power and plain malevolence and Ill-Will are realities of the Human condition, or at least
keep appearing in our civilizations(?) Yes, it is possible, but I do not believe it can be Imposed on people (then it is just Tyranny in a different form), it has to come about as a result of the intention and innate will of all people. There's the rub.

[TimelessDimensions]

IMO:

Utopia - only for people who have become aware of their shadow to a point where they can meditate peacefully at any moment.

[Deborah (ahamkara)]

My opinion:
Utopian realities exisit- so yes, it is possible. however,
not probable, in reality as experienced by most on Earth at present.

[Davidallany]

Utopia is not possible at all with our current situation. I am not sure if it is even possible in Fourth or Fifth density.