BLESSED UNREST - this is what we are doing at Project Avalon. MUST WATCH video

[Bill Ryan]

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Dear Friends:

Every Avalon member must watch this video. It was brought to my attention this morning by the beautiful Ninja Nun (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?12082-A-message-from-a-Nun-about-the-Charles-material). :)

It astonished me, and brought tears to my eyes. It is of the utmost importance. Spread it far and wide.

This is truly what we are doing at Project Avalon. We are at the very heart of this. A New Civilization, a new way of being on Planet Earth, is being born.




Blessed Unrest, by Paul Hawken
How the Largest Movement in the World Came into Being
and Why No One Saw It Coming


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y98hDWUBv_k

[ulli]

That sums up what I believe. Thank you!

[mondaze]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skZhxWNSeho

the tide of humanity is unstoppable if we arm ourselves with love!

[goldmother]

It just goes to show WE ALL make a difference sometimes even when we think we don't each and everyone of us

Be the change you want to see


leaving love at your door
Lissa

[Billy]

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Dear Friends:

Every Avalon member must watch this video. It was brought to my attention this morning by the beautiful Ninja Nun (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?12082-A-message-from-a-Nun-about-the-Charles-material). :)

It astonished me, and brought tears to my eyes. It is of the utmost importance. Spread it far and wide.

This is truly what we are doing at Project Avalon. We are at the very heart of this. A New Civilization, a new way of being on Planet Earth, is being born.




Blessed Unrest, by Paul Hawken
How the Largest Movement in the World Came into Being
and Why No One Saw It Coming


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y98hDWUBv_k

And this was 4 years ago, I think they know we are here now, peek a boo :peep:

[Maria Stade]

Thank You Bill !

No there is nothing stopping this running train !


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hL_VTdxvWac&feature=player_embedded#at=331

It is global and it is we doing it.

All Love

Maria

[Fructedor]

Beautiful - the Earth's immune system kicking in - that's a joyful message - I'm sending that to everyone - we are not alone and never have been.

Fructedor

[astrid]

Perfect Bill.

Thank you Sister!!

Your light is leading the way.

Much Love ,

Astrid

[TigerLilly]

Thank you Bill
It is so easy to be overwhelmed by all the bad news and all the suffering,
and not see the goodness and the shift in consciousness taking place around us.

[John Parslow]

Hello Bill

Absolutely brilliant! This is what we have all been waiting for and at last confirmation that change is coming ...

Love and peace to you. JP :cool:

I was so moved by this video I am now going to watch it again ...

[THIRDEYE]

thankyou biil for this woderfull vid,it stuck notes in my heart....im a clear person that what we think we manafest our deepest desires...it may not come when we want but it will come...also as a collective we the poeple as a collective when we use our intentions can move mountains...with love light and abundance bill...thirdeye...

[Kimberley]

Well I think this belongs in here too....

We are ONE!!!! I love you!!! :love:

How To Take Our Power Back From The Government's NWO ----Bashar ----

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkgF6L5MzlQ


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkgF6L5MzlQ

[Isthatso]

I love it - thank you Bill..

How wonderful to wake up to this incredible video!

I've also just read the thread from Innana regarding a global flash mob experience!

Makes you realise these groups we participate in may be a drop in the ocean, however linked together are so so so much more!

Now that's a great start to the day.

Peace and warm wishes to you all...

[Brizil]

I have watched the video twice. It really put things into persepctive and encouraged me to feel hopeful.;) Thank you for sharing it Sister.

Regards,

Brizil

[Belle]

Thank you, Bill and thank you, Ninja Nun for bringing a message we needed to hear just when we needed it the most. We are part of the earth's immune system kicking in...I just love that.

[Eric J (Viking)]

Excellent video...

Yes our consciousness is searching,
swirling and finding new areas of positivety,
a better way of life, new leaders, new ways,
new paradigms to shape our new world...
we are done with the old way,
and our collected minds demand something else to latch onto...
we will all find what we are looking for,
to shape our New World. Soon.

viking

[Maria Stade]

15,236,604 members doing good!

This is Only one network !

What do they do ?

They say NO

They share information

They educate one another

Their action is helping others !

All is free and by heart !

The new way to be an activist !

All in Peace for a better world !

http://www.care2.com/

[Gardener]

The wisdom of our one heart has no adequate words.

x
:grouphug:

[Spica]

That video really gets you up for the challenge, I don't believe change will just happen but its seems we have the strength in depth to make it happen. Thank You Bill and thank you Sister.

[Amenjo]

Thank you Sister and Bill,

It's time to show Mother Earth how much we love her, and make her proud of her inhabitants.

Love and Truth to All,

Amenjo

[MargueriteBee]

May I have a link? I can't see embeds on this iPad.

[bodixa]

Haha - full circle. I watched this over Christmas when I was thinking about whether or not to sign up here :)

I wish Ninja Nun would join us here. Do you think we'd swamp her with questions?



Thx for the clarity. ;)

[lightblue]

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thanks though i don't see anything groundbraking in this video...honestly..

he seems to be calling for the tear down of old ideologies while proposing a new one - not at all clear as to what is it?

viking
Yes our consciousness is searching,
swirling and finding new areas of positivety,
a better way of life, new leaders, new ways,
new paradigms to shape our new world...
we are done with the old way,
and our collected minds demand something else to latch onto...
we will all find what we are looking for,
to shape our New World. Soon.

viking

i think we can certainly do without new leaders you are proposing..not into leaders...i say why not be your own leader? best wishes :yu: l

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[Fred Steeves]

Well, surely I'll stick out like the crazy uncle every family has in saying this, but this video emerged on the last forum I was on and no one cared about some of the common buzz words this guy likes to throw around, they were too excited about what they wanted to hear.

Phrases like "social justice", "environmental justice" and "community organizers". They sound warm and fuzzy, but their roots for the most part are deep in the big Socialst movement. Pay attention to how often you hear these seemingly benign terms bandied about on the news, and who the people are saying them. Who are they and what do they REALLY represent? For starters look no further than Mr. Social Justice and Community Organizer himself, Barack Obama. Aka Barry soetoro.

I'm just saying be wary of the wolf in sheep's clothing...The false awakening...

Cheers,
Fred S.

[araucaria]

Wonderful, thank you. The key to any peaceful transformation is that the new structure is already in p lace before the old one finally collapses. When the growing crab is about to moult it is bigger on the inside than on the outside, but it has to make itself smaller in order to leave behind its protective shell. There is a moment of danger that it passes under a rock, but when it comes out it is unrecognizably bigger. This I think is what is happening to us all here.

[ulli]

For any one interested in finding out how this involvement translates:

I worked in this field since 1983, I was with an NGO, (non-governmental organization)
and in May 1998 attended an annual planery session of the OAS (Organization of American States), in San Jose, Costa Rica.
with all the Ministers of Foreign Affairs of the American hemisphere.

Different NGOs had been invited to present their agendas. See more about it here:
http://www.icnl.org/knowledge/ngolawmonitor/oas.htm

There were different meeting rooms provided and people could select which area they wanted to participate in.

Environment, domestic violence, poverty, fight against corruption, drug trafficking or Racism.
I had joined in with the anti-Racism group, having lived in Barbados for many years I felt I understood the underlying issues of racism pretty well.
Btw, I am female, white, and German by birth.
When I entered the room there were 80 mostly male Indigenous and African Americans present, from Argentina, Uruguay, all the way to Canada. Even some Amazonian tribal people. black slaves had been brought even to South America, something that isn't widely known.

And when it came to brainstorming I was surprised that no one made the one contribution that I considered to be the most important in restoring ethnic groups their self esteem: their need to be taught primary education with LOCAL stories of their OWN history.
What I felt was needed was to change the school curriculum in primary school education from colonialist white history to stories that matched the actual culture of the ethnic people involved.
The fact that no one even voiced such a need proved to me the need for bringing this idea forward.


The majority of Costa Ricans on the Atlantic coast are origianlly from Jamaica who went there to build a railroad 100 years ago.
Just as black Barbadians had built the Panama canal. Huge loss of life then, may I add.

I have more stories about this kind of work, but this letter is long enough.

[Rufs]

Wow, its wonderful Bill, thank you. Uplifting - slip into the still waters of peace - can anyone remember a time of peace? Its uplifting to see the scale of change and to hear a fresh view. As Paul Hawken spoke I could really feel the energy, I will pay more attention to him, excellent stuff!

[Nanoo Nanoo]

Bill , thank you for empowering us. We are MIGHTY as individuals .. but United we are UNSTOPPABLE ;)

N

[MariaDine]

Well, surely I'll stick out like the crazy uncle every family has in saying this, but this video emerged on the last forum I was on and no one cared about some of the common buzz words this guy likes to throw around, they were too excited about what they wanted to hear.

Phrases like "social justice", "environmental justice" and "community organizers". They sound warm and fuzzy, but their roots for the most part are deep in the big Socialst movement. Pay attention to how often you hear these seemingly benign terms bandied about on the news, and who the people are saying them. Who are they and what do they REALLY represent? For starters look no further than Mr. Social Justice and Community Organizer himself, Barack Obama. Aka Barry soetoro.

I'm just saying be wary of the wolf in sheep's clothing...The false awakening...

Cheers,
Fred S.


Indeed ! Right on target , F . !

«Those who have ears, listen ! »

Namasté

[Bill Ryan]

Well, surely I'll stick out like the crazy uncle every family has in saying this, but this video emerged on the last forum I was on and no one cared about some of the common buzz words this guy likes to throw around, they were too excited about what they wanted to hear.

Phrases like "social justice", "environmental justice" and "community organizers". They sound warm and fuzzy, but their roots for the most part are deep in the big Socialst movement. Pay attention to how often you hear these seemingly benign terms bandied about on the news, and who the people are saying them. Who are they and what do they REALLY represent? For starters look no further than Mr. Social Justice and Community Organizer himself, Barack Obama. Aka Barry soetoro.

I'm just saying be wary of the wolf in sheep's clothing...The false awakening...

Cheers,
Fred S.


Indeed ! Right on target , F . !

«Those who have ears, listen ! »

Namasté

I suggest that it's not just the words. It's the phenomenon of mass awakening, and a rapidly growing collective grassroots responsibility that is quite new.

The rhetoric is immaterial. Feel the vibe. We're surfing on the wave of history right now.

[joedjemal]

I suggest that it's not just the words. It's the phenomenon of mass awakening, and a rapidly growing collective grassroots responsibility that is quite new.

The rhetoric is immaterial. Feel the vibe. We're surfing on the wave of history right now.

I can see it all over the place. Forming in little groups, people trying to work their way out of the straightjacket of current systems. We need the freedom to function though and that takes land and resources. How do we take what we need and survive while the transition happens? I suspect people are going to start demanding the right to exist sustainably and independantly in huge numbers soon.

I hope it happens before it's too late. I think perhaps it will.

[Eric J (Viking)]

I think Jesus was a leader and so was Gandhi, to name a few..

There are many folk spreading truth and leading the way, Blue..

And there will be many more.

Viking

[modwiz]

You were one hundred per cent correct about the need to watch this video Bill Ryan.

That was the heartiest meal my spirit has had in a while.

[greybeard]

This mass awakening which has been on going or longer than most realize is reflected in sales of books like "The Power of Now" by Eckhart Tole.
It was the no 1 best seller New York Times best sellers list. Millions sold as was his follow up book "A New Earth"
Twenty year ago he would have been lucky to sell 1000 copies.

He started just by putting a few copies in book stores, no publisher no money behind him.
The book took of because people wanted it, were ready for it.
He has spoken in great detail about the changes in consciousness and associated mood swings.

The change is coming because the Totality wants it. It is a done deal
He says that before change happens we are at our most dysfunctional.
Everything becomes more polarized.
If we resist the changes by fighting etc then the changes will be all the more difficult for us.

I find sometimes my actions do not match my intention then I suffer.
(Be kind to all life no matter what including my own)
The old egoic consciousness does not want to go and is putting up a fight, thats his way of expressing it.
He says that the old negative trouble some consciouses, greedy controlling, egoic is getting more "noisy" which is why it is more noticeable than the increasing peaceful rising consciousness.
The new energy is being anchored here by the healers and those who have exposed them selves to enlightened spiritual teachings for some time.
Eckhart says that in A New Earth.

Both books are well worth reading as they give practical advice in maintaining a degree of peace through out all this chaos.
He also predicted the fall of the banking systems and all present structure.

Chris

Ps Echart said "That while the words in the books may be informative they are just the carrier of the high frequency of enlightenmnt,
There are path finders front runners in every endeavor in my estimation he is one,
He is where we all will be soon.
Chris

[MariaDine]

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I suggest that it's not just the words. It's the phenomenon of mass awakening, and a rapidly growing collective grassroots responsibility that is quite new.

The rhetoric is immaterial. Feel the vibe. We're surfing on the wave of history right now.[/QUOTE]

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Namasté

[loveandgratitude]

HOW TO START A MOVEMENT


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2FzpAFegXE

[Muzz]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVQe5K2VBMY

[benevolentcrow]

Thank you, thank you!

The ground is moving beneath our feet, and we are in a breakthrough moment. All across the world the shift is becoming palpable and gaining momentum.

This is what I thought Project Avalon was all about from the beginning, change for the positive, a benevolent future for all. Glad to see we are getting back to thinking about a New World of hope, peace, kindness and LOVE!

[MorningSong]

Thank-you Bill and Ninja Nun! The words spoken in the video are quite wonderful and full of hope and reassurance that we are not alone.

Did anyone but me actually go to the WiserEarth website to check it out? Well, I did and I found a world map with partners thumbtacked....interesting the ones in my area.

I might just get in touch with a few to see what I can do in my own backyard, so to say....to walk the talk!

Vision with Action can change the world!

http://www.wiserearth.org/content/proximity_map

[grannyfranny100]

Bill

Thank you for this heart warming video. I have already sent this on to my friends.
To bad we don't have email addresses for the bad guys but I bet they will know of this as it goes viral in emails.

This is sunshine in a video

Granny Franny

[jjl]

Bill

Thank you for this heart warming video. I have already sent this on to my friends.
To bad we don't have email addresses for the bad guys but I bet they will know of this as it goes viral in emails.

This is sunshine in a video

Granny Franny

Dont worry, I'm sure they have Granny

[Lord Sidious]

May I have a link? I can't see embeds on this iPad.

Yes, of course you can.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1fiubmOqH4

In future, just press reply with quote, the link will be in the post.
Then you can get the link straight away.

[Jake]

Very powerful! Thank you sister... (and sis,)

[Meesh]

Lovely, and thank you. Posted to my FB page.

[lightblue]

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bill:
I suggest that it's not just the words. It's the phenomenon of mass awakening, and a rapidly growing collective grassroots responsibility that is quite new.

The rhetoric is immaterial. Feel the vibe. We're surfing on the wave of history right now.

bill, i would really like to know what evidence do you have of this happening? i mean re the "rapidly growing grassroots responsibilities".. where has this reflected so far? thanks :yu: l

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[daledo]

Excellent video Bill.

I wonder how many members 250,000 groups have? The key is getting everyone on the same page and a common goal between everyone. The collective consciousness of say 2 billion people brought together by 250,000 groups have alot of power. If they all got together and actually worked together and not spent all their time fighting with other groups they could stop the world completely and actually get something done.

These are our demands... they must and will be fulfilled by all ruling groups around the world.

A short example: How long would grocery stores sell imported genetically modified food if there were nobody buying the fruits and vegies? If people in the world community demanded locally grown natural food and only bought locally grown natural food... they would sell locally grown natural food. There is always strength in numbers... TPTB know this and this is why they keep us divided, arguing and bickering between ourselves and far away from the issues that are really going on.

[ghostrider]

change is here now with us blazzing the trail with new ideas of what's important, truth, equality, harmony, a group awareness. together we go where others were afraid to go, into our world not controlled by lies, or government, or religion, or money, or ego, just simple truth. it feels good to be united in purpose for a better world... great video.. thanks so much Bill.... upward we go...

[Kindling]

Love this! Just shared it on my Facebook.

[Noble Hops]

Hate to sound negative, but can someone explain how this presentation is really any different than all the other new age/socialist utopia/Birkenstock/patchouli oil rallies of the last forty years?

Full respect to Bill and everyone else, but wasn't feeling it-- mondo generalities and "feel-good" fuzzies like all the rest of them. No?

[ulli]

Hate to sound negative, but can someone explain how this presentation is really any different than all the other new age/socialist utopia/Birkenstock/patchouli oil rallies of the last forty years?

Full respect to Bill and everyone else, but wasn't feeling it-- mondo generalities and "feel-good" fuzzies like all the rest of them. No?

look at it this way...if you had had a family member
who you knew was 100% innocent thrown in jail
and then found that there was a group of people
willing to back you up in your fight against such an injustice

wouldn't you be glad that such a group existed?
I sure would.
and all the people cheering in that hall
probably had first hand experience
and needed to get energized by the fact that they were
and never had been
alone.

there comes a time when even a loner wants to join a group,
just as there are times when groups are dispersed
and people find themselves without company

life is rhythmic
you choose your own rhythm

[bluestflame]

glad someone can see what's going on

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_RdMygo1BQuw/SGN0WLLdRxI/AAAAAAAAAhk/ZoZA_xcoZME/s400/flyingnun.jpg

[Bollinger]

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Dear Friends:

Every Avalon member must watch this video. It was brought to my attention this morning by the beautiful Ninja Nun (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?12082-A-message-from-a-Nun-about-the-Charles-material). :)

It astonished me, and brought tears to my eyes. It is of the utmost importance. Spread it far and wide.

This is truly what we are doing at Project Avalon. We are at the very heart of this. A New Civilization, a new way of being on Planet Earth, is being born.[INDENT][INDENT][INDENT][I]
Blessed Unrest, by Paul Hawken
How the Largest Movement in the World Came into Being
and Why No One Saw It Coming



These organisations come and go. They have been around for a long time. They are probably larger in number now than they ever were but they are too small and isolated to have any overall effect on the general well-being of our planet and its people. At best, I rate this sort of thing as another evangelical “self-help” therapy session for a small fee.

Given that we still have 2 billion people living beneath the most basic needs for human existence and another billion on the poverty line, given that we are still using oil to push around metal boxes and provide the vast majority of our energy needs, given that 10% still own 90% of everything; where is the net effect? You could have a million organisations doing a million things but it won’t make even a dent in the social and material injustice unless those in power decide or change to think of others instead of just themselves.

Human nature is against us and no amount of preaching love, peace and all those glowing but useless sentiments will ever get us off our knees. Action from those who sustain this mess for their own greedy ends is what is needed; not words from powerless well-meaning people. Unless and until that happens, things will just carry on the same. There is no messiah, no saviour, no ascension, and no rapture.

Every time I hear the words “we are powerful”, or “we are gods and we’ve just forgotten it” or “we create our own reality”, I feel like saying: are you listening to yourself? How long are we going to remain this powerful and this godly but still fail to change anything? It’s all words; just words that are meant to stir up emotion and soften the senses.

We all know what we yearn for and people always find different ways of telling us that it’s coming. Sometimes, even they themselves believe in it and that makes the delivery of the message even more effective. It’s what we want to hear and we’ll pay money to hear it. But alas, behind it I find no substance or reality.

[Mike]

Bollinger,

i too am weary of rhetoric and new age colliquialisms, but we've gotta start somewhere, my friend. sitting back and waiting for the ptb to have a miraculous change of heart hardly seems the best choice, though i do sense and appreciate your pragmatism here.

speaking of which...this guy's heart is in the right place, but he does seem a little soft. these alternative organizations need pragmatists as leaders, as#holes with hearts, if you will. people that know other people. people that know how to get sh#t done. people that can deliver demonstrable solutions to match the emotional crescendo of their speeches. in other words, someone that can offer a plan and the resources to carry it out-alright Bollinger, maybe you're right...

[greybeard]

I refer again to the work of Eckhart Tolle.
Be very clear it is not new age.
Anyone who has read his books or seen him on DVD or the Oprah Winfrey show would know the integrity of the man.

The new energy is coming into this world raising consciousness, a rising tide lifts all boats.
We are all affected by the energy, some do not want it and it cant cope with the goodness in it. They lash out at people who try to help them.
Other very appreciative.
Many bother to use thank you buttons.
Most are ok with opposing points of view.

Many come to the one thread I started, on enlightenment (Enlightenment: Ego what is it? How to transcend) over 19 thousand in fact.
The fact that they do read about spiritual matters is a big indication of the way things are going.
There are differing opinions on the thread quite a few posters quite a few videos on 2012.
So it is quite diverse and not one cross word, check it out for your selves its in the spiritual section.
it is the longest running thread in the spiritual section.
That has nothing to do with me, I did not visit it that number of times laughing.
It could not have continued with out massive support through the visits contributions Pms etc.
It was requested that the thread continue from the old Avalon.
So there is over three years work in it.
You wanted it you got it.
The spiritual heart of any forum can only be in the spiritual section.
If it is weakened by negativity and attack the forum as a whole suffers.

I see people now being more considerate, for example thanking bus drivers as they get of, the heck out operator no longer just a machine serving you but a real person and acknowledged as such.
A lot of good out there for those with eyes to see.

Namaste

[bennycog]

applauding..

[Tangri]

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Frd0CPYuZgU&feature=player_detailpage#t=218s

[Constance]

If every one of those 250,000 grassroot organisations were to unite with each other and with Project Avalon, then we would be an unbeatable force. That is what is going to have to happen if we are to become a force to reckon with.
However, we all need to establish what the common purpose or "common passion" is in order to get there!!! It has to be something that we can ALL agree upon first. And this means every last man, woman and child on this planet.

[Jendayi]

I suggest that it's not just the words. It's the phenomenon of mass awakening, and a rapidly growing collective grassroots responsibility that is quite new.

The rhetoric is immaterial. Feel the vibe. We're surfing on the wave of history right now.
indeed we are!!!! thank you so much for sharing bill... i've forwarded the video immediately after watching it.. bless you all and to NinjaNun.. a big hug!!!
namaste

[Jendayi]

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[Zook]

Good morning Good Avalonians, the Earth says hello!


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Dear Friends:
Every Avalon member must watch this video. It was brought to my attention this morning by the beautiful Ninja Nun (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?12082-A-message-from-a-Nun-about-the-Charles-material). :)
It astonished me, and brought tears to my eyes. It is of the utmost importance. Spread it far and wide.
This is truly what we are doing at Project Avalon. We are at the very heart of this. A New Civilization, a new way of being on Planet Earth, is being born.




Blessed Unrest, by Paul Hawken
How the Largest Movement in the World Came into Being
and Why No One Saw It Coming

[...]


Please take time to watch this video again. There's a reason why Hawken's presentation feels like a revival gathering. It is. Hawken is the quintessential corporate insider ... now being promoted by the nefarious establishment as one of the head horsemen of its Green Cavalry, a charging brigade of indoctrinated soldiers bent on delivering Agenda 21 and the such, through subtle pressures and carefully measured tactics. An army and an arm of the NWO that wants to put Tesla technology in a half-nelson hold and pursue less establishment-threatening; less efficient; less regular (sunshine on a cloudy day??) but commercially-viable (i.e. taxable) alternative energies like solar energy. Here's some bio on Paul Hawken: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Hawken

Here's more proof of his establishment credentials.:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/marc-gunther/paul-hawkens-winning-inve_b_462413.html

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Why haven't they done better? Some of us have long believed that the problem with conventional SRI funds is that their definition of "socially responsible" is not nearly as rigorous as it could or should be.

Paul Hawken has been vocal in his critique of the SRI establishment, and since 2005 he has put his money where his mouth is. In a partnership with Baldwin Brothers, a Massachusetts-based investment firm, Hawken has overseen the Highwater Global Fund, a fund for qualified investors (i.e., the rich) that invests in companies "that have a clear sense of current global trends and future societal needs." His results have been impressive, to say the least.

Since inception in the fall of 2005, Highwater is up by a total of 52.55%. During the three years ended in December (the same period cited above), Highwater is up by a total of 19.75%. This is, in part, because Hawken and the other fund managers are very picky about what stocks they hold. More than 90% of the Fortune 500 fail their screens.

If you don't know about Paul Hawken, you should. He's a path-breaking thinker and influential writer whose books include The Ecology of Commere (1993), Natural Capitalism (1999, with Amory and Hunter Lovins) and Blessed Unrest (2007). He's an entrepreneur who founded Erewhon and Smith & Hawken, and an advisor who has worked with to Wal-Mart and Ford. These days, he's focused on a startup in stealth mode called OneSun, a a solar energy company based on green chemistry and biomimcry.

I had the great pleasure of visiting with Hawken last week at his office in Sausalito, CA. Mostly, we talked solar. OneSun's chief science officer is John Warner, a pioneer of green chemistry, a longtime researcher at Polaroid and author (with Paul Anastas, now EPA's top researcher) of Green Chemistry: Theory and Practice. OneSun has hired more than a dozen PhD.'s and aims to produce "solar beneath the cost of nuclear and coal," Hawken says, but he's not ready to divulge much more yet.
end



Forget that he was an advisor to Wal-mart and Ford, two of the more egregious establishment corporations; forget that he co-authored Green Chemistry with Paul Anastas (an Environmental Protection Agency muppet) ... listen to what Hawken himself says and measure it against what your own research and intuition tells you.

One, Hawken guesses that the number of such groups (he lists a few hundred groups maybe, and then uses graphical artistry to mask the supposed others, leaving their existence entirely to our imagination) ... ranges anywhere from one million to two million. Hello? Is this science ... or is this a number pulled out of the ether like a a rabbit from a magician's hat?

Two, how does Hawken know that this alleged one million (or two) are all with unified purpose, e.g. part of the same movement? The only way this is possible - leave alone the absurdity of the proposition of a million heads thinking as one - is if all such groups had been directed to a unified purpose ... and this implies a central command structure. The obvious candidates for such a command structure are the (Ford/Rockefeller/Rothschild) foundations and institutes. History shows that such foundations/institutes finance the NGOs and such through direct and indirect foundational grants.

Three, the biggest red flag is Hawken's lack of forthrightness ... Tesla technology is now the barometer of genuine energy reform. You promote it, then you are genuinely of the grass-roots revolution. But if you continue to promote phony energy dreams that go nowhere fast (e.g. wind, solar, water, fossil fuels), then you are part of the existing problem and the old paradigm of power in the pyramidal design.

Please use discernment. Thank you.

Humble opinions all around.

:smow::typing:

ps: Yes, even nuns can get it wrong from time to time. Bless her heart for trying to find the truth all the same.

[araucaria]

[/QUOTE]
Humble opinions all around.

:smow::typing:

ps: Yes, even nuns can get it wrong from time to time. Bless her heart for trying to find the truth all the same.[/QUOTE]

Well there's a humble opinion for you.

I for one am getting seriously weary of these negative attitudes. If you buy into this NWo stuff, that may well be what you get. I don't know and don't really care whose side Charles, Hawken, Horak, whoever is on, they are doing good work here on Avalon regardless.

If you think $-h-i-t is going to happen, you are constipatedly focusing on the dark side, the dark moment of a substance that oscillates between two positives, namely food and fertiliser. Get it out of your system and it will do no harm. :rolleyes:

[Ruby L.]

If you think $-h-i-t is going to happen, you are constipatedly focusing on the dark side, the dark moment of a substance that oscillates between two positives, namely food and fertiliser. Get it out of your system and it will do no harm. :rolleyes:

Now that, my friend, could not be more brilliantly expressed. Bravo! Braaa-vo!!

[Zook]

Humble opinions all around.
:smow::typing:
ps: Yes, even nuns can get it wrong from time to time. Bless her heart for trying to find the truth all the same.

Well there's a humble opinion for you.

I for one am getting seriously weary of these negative attitudes. If you buy into this NWo stuff, that may well be what you get. I don't know and don't really care whose side Charles, Hawken, Horak, whoever is on, they are doing good work here on Avalon regardless.

If you think $-h-i-t is going to happen, you are constipatedly focusing on the dark side, the dark moment of a substance that oscillates between two positives, namely food and fertiliser. Get it out of your system and it will do no harm. :rolleyes:


The source of negative energy is not the informed opinion or the humble one ... but the lack of tolerance for such opinions.

:smow::typing:

ps: Impatience with lies ... is a virtue. Impatience with truths, good friend, speaks for itself.

[Noble Hops]

I for one am getting seriously weary of these negative attitudes. If you buy into this NWo stuff, that may well be what you get. I don't know and don't really care whose side Charles, Hawken, Horak, whoever is on, they are doing good work here on Avalon regardless.

Where do you make the distinction between using discretion and having a "negative attitude"? Do you just accept everything and everybody if their intentions seem to be good?

Sorry, but 'no thanks' to globalism and freedom pushers.

[sygh]

If we believe in this cause, we must donate to it. We simply must understand this part of it without getting upset about it. None of us have much, we all realize this but if we pool our resourses, we will do wonders with it. And we won't be alone. This really is growing. If we put our minds to it, imagine what we can do!!!

I have great faith in this community.

I was going to donate yesterday but procrastinated, I won't be sitting on my haunches today.

Please, hit the donate button. Let's do this!

[benevolentcrow]

A goal is not always meant to be reached, it often serves simply as something to aim at.

The greatest danger for most of us is not that our aim is too high and we miss it, but that it is too low and we reach it...............Michelangelo

[Fred Steeves]

I suggest that it's not just the words. It's the phenomenon of mass awakening, and a rapidly growing collective grassroots responsibility that is quite new.

The rhetoric is immaterial. Feel the vibe. We're surfing on the wave of history right now.

Hi Bill, yes of course it's true that there is a mass awakening, I'm living proof of that, and I can also feel that expanding energy crackling throughout the aether. It is also true that there is a cleverly contrived imposter of this awakening based in deception. Discernment is a critical tool to navigate the minefield of information vs. misinformation, as I have watched you and Kerry demonstrate repeatedly in your interviews.

I respectfully ask why you say the words and terms used in the video are immaterial? "Community organizer", "social justice", and "econimic justice" are major red flags these days, and many of the groups he listed splash them across their websites as well. I fail to see how they are any different then seemingly well meaning people on the news who toss out red flag terms like "global economy", "international partners", or "quantitative easing".

These people often tell us who they really are and what their intentions are by the language they use, if we are informed and paying attention. Don't we ignore such clues at our own peril?

Cheers,
Fred S.

[benevolentcrow]

With powerful winds of change blowing through countries around the world -- and even within our own communities -- now is clearly the time for each of us to step up and play our highest role! A single step will lead to the destination...

[greybeard]

I feel that the moment you belong to a group you create a division.
We are the guys that are going to change the world!!! oh yes!!!!
Thousands of groups are saying exactly that.
I have for a short time been part of one or two.

We have a responsibility to change individually.
I get it right other "I"s get it right then we are really on track
We individually have to be the change we want to see.

With the best will in the world groups start to form agendas.
Our way is best we know best and then its more of the same.

Avalon is not going to change the world.

You individually change, you change the world
It really is down to you.

There is no mind technique or meditation technique that will change the world, if there was it would have changed long ago.
Groups of good intentions have existed for centuries
NOW
Undoubtedly there is a wave of change.
Its a HEART CHANGE.

Namaste

[lightblue]

chris:
There is no mind technique or meditation technique that will change the world, if there was it would have changed long ago.
Groups of good intentions have existed for centuries
NOW
Undoubtedly there is a wave of change.
Its a HEART CHANGE.



i'd say, take advantage and reaffirm - I am I :) l


zook
The source of negative energy is not the informed opinion or the humble one ... but the lack of tolerance for such opinions.


nice to see you post again z ...


.
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[Bollinger]

Bollinger,

i too am weary of rhetoric and new age colliquialisms, but we've gotta start somewhere, my friend. sitting back and waiting for the ptb to have a miraculous change of heart hardly seems the best choice, though i do sense and appreciate your pragmatism here.

speaking of which...this guy's heart is in the right place, but he does seem a little soft. these alternative organizations need pragmatists as leaders, as#holes with hearts, if you will. people that know other people. people that know how to get sh#t done. people that can deliver demonstrable solutions to match the emotional crescendo of their speeches. in other words, someone that can offer a plan and the resources to carry it out-alright Bollinger, maybe you're right...

We are in a horrible chicken and egg situation. For every person that is taken out of poverty, another five are forced into it. The richer one person becomes the poorer others become. This abject zero-sum game that has been devised by people in charge now and those before them is what keeps the wheels of injustice turning. If you can find a way to become sufficiently wealthy so that you didn’t have to be a slave to some employer, you too would be applauding this system and hoping it lasts forever. That’s just the way we humans are.

The problem with this is the sheer chasm between the rich and the poor which has grown out of all proportion. There are people who own mansions with just a few people living in them. There are people with 50 cars and jet-planes. There are people who own entire islands. What possible moral or ethical grounds can anyone have for justifying such vulgar realities in our world? None; and yet there it is.

While the few keep piling on more millions on top of their existing millions, billions routinely go hungry and die. You say “we have to start somewhere”. To me it’s all just another airy-fairy, impractical, laughable pile of nonsense from which I am sure someone somewhere is making a sizeable amount of money. Did you see the number of people in the auditorium? Did you see the expression on their faces? Poor wretched people don’t know where to turn any more for their daily bread.

We need power to change things but power comes with having money – rightly or wrongly, that’s the way it’s set up and no amount of denial is going to change that. But money hardly ever seems to find its way to those who want to use it for the good of everyone and not just themselves or their particular organisations. It is virtually impossible to convince someone to give up a sizeable portion of their wealth and possessions for sharing because that goes against all their instincts and experience. They fall away ceding to the inevitable adage that if you can’t beat them, you must join them – if you can.

You say; we cannot sit around waiting for the powers that be to have a change of heart. That is true and I would be stupid to suggest it. However, it is equally a waste of time to invest intellectual energy on something that I have seen and watched and seen repeated a thousand times over many years with no net effect.

Greybeard says we have to be the change we want to see. That is true but it is also a tautology. It is like saying to become good, you have to be good. He is also correct when he says there is no magic meditation or technique that is going to suddenly lift us out from hell and straight in to heaven. Again, the problem is there are fundamental obstacles that stand in our way. It is not easy to change because in order to change all must change. Turning the other cheek is nonsense if you’re the only one doing it.

For every person that manages to change, there are a thousand others who have no desire or the inclination to do any such thing. In the words of Fulke Greville, we are “created sick and commanded to be well”. Society itself is sick. If you want to find someone to blame for being this way, just follow the many conspiracy theories - most of which border on sheer paranoia if not outright stupidity.

And while we run around trying to work out which of the billion videos on YouTube to believe, the Game carries on unabated and into the abyss we continue to descend. If you say I am spreading negative energy, I would say that it is more like reminding people of our realities. It is so easy to say “something is coming” or “don’t you feel the energy” or “mass awakening is happening” and pretend it means something. It is more difficult to admit that perhaps our problems may in fact be insurmountable. If you want something to believe in, there is no shortage of teary eyed people on podiums queuing up to tell you. If you want truth, you can hear a pin drop.

[Agape]

Special message from Tai Situ Rimpoche on Tigers Day ( Sep 26th ) of International Year of Biodiversity ( 2010 )



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRsOKj6clsI


...


:angel:

[Mike]

Bollinger i agree with much of your first post. you may have noticed that i acknowledged that you might be right at the end of my post-with tongue slightly in cheek(i am a realist as well, though a bit more optimistic than you) however, an accurate summary of your 2nd post could easily read: sit on your hands and wait for ptb to come around. it hardly seems right to eviscerate an effort without providing a solution of your own. i don't ask you this to engender some sort of flip response from you; i'm genuinely curious. you obviously put alot of time and effort into your posts, and i'm interested in your thoughts.

the plan will never look good on paper. the dream and the reality will never line up flush. there will always be a chasm that requires a leap. grassroots people start grassroots movements because they don't have the resources to start larger movements. if they did, they'd be conscious or unconscious supporters of ptb, and no movement would be required, obviously. i hate it when people quote movies to make a point but i'll do it anyway. in 'bRaveheart' william wallace is called to meet the nobles for a meeting, under the guise of joining forces. it appears to be an obvious set-up, and this is pointed out by a friend. wallace replies "you know what'll happen if we don't meet the nobles?" friend asks "what?" wallace replies "nothin". the point: we have to at least try, no matter how unrealistic. where else would you suggest these people apply their intellectual resources?

as far as this speaker being NWO affiliated (GROAN) who knows? maybe. i think everybody on this site has been accused of this at some point, what with the paranioa running rampant. if the alternative community is to have any sort of chance, WE NEED A CORPORATE GUY.(i'm likely to be NWO accused for even suggesting it lol!)we need someone who understands the in's and out's of the corporate world. any would-be savior will have to come from this world, otherwise he'll be useless. a few residual hippies from the 60's will not help anybody.

[araucaria]

Humble opinions all around.
:smow::typing:
ps: Yes, even nuns can get it wrong from time to time. Bless her heart for trying to find the truth all the same.

Well there's a humble opinion for you.

I for one am getting seriously weary of these negative attitudes. If you buy into this NWo stuff, that may well be what you get. I don't know and don't really care whose side Charles, Hawken, Horak, whoever is on, they are doing good work here on Avalon regardless.

If you think $-h-i-t is going to happen, you are constipatedly focusing on the dark side, the dark moment of a substance that oscillates between two positives, namely food and fertiliser. Get it out of your system and it will do no harm. :rolleyes:


The source of negative energy is not the informed opinion or the humble one ... but the lack of tolerance for such opinions.

:smow::typing:

ps: Impatience with lies ... is a virtue. Impatience with truths, good friend, speaks for itself.

Impatience with what 'truth'? the 'informed opinion' of your previous sentence? I don't know what truths you have to share, I for one have none.
I am not impatient with any thing, but with the stalling of a dynamic process. Negativity is a state, positivity is a flow

[araucaria]

I for one am getting seriously weary of these negative attitudes. If you buy into this NWo stuff, that may well be what you get. I don't know and don't really care whose side Charles, Hawken, Horak, whoever is on, they are doing good work here on Avalon regardless.

Where do you make the distinction between using discretion and having a "negative attitude"? Do you just accept everything and everybody if their intentions seem to be good?

Sorry, but 'no thanks' to globalism and freedom pushers.

I like people's use of the word catalyst in talking about negativity. A catalyst permits or accelerates a chemical reaction without itself being involved or transformed thereby. Whenever I have any degree of success in facing some negative event, it changes me without my being affected by it provided I don't dwell on it.
Another way of looking at it would be to say take care of the pennies and the pounds will l ook after themselves. There is no way little me is going to bring down the NWO even with the help of some friends. I just do my best in the here and now.
I used the metaphor of a crab growing a new shell. The negative is the old shell that was so powerful in defence and attack and is now so completely useless and discarded.

[mesta0ptik]

I think that puts things into perspective - amazing and reassuring to know how widespread the desire to see change in the world has become.

[Constance]

Good morning Good Avalonians, the Earth says hello!


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Dear Friends:
Every Avalon member must watch this video. It was brought to my attention this morning by the beautiful Ninja Nun (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?12082-A-message-from-a-Nun-about-the-Charles-material). :)
It astonished me, and brought tears to my eyes. It is of the utmost importance. Spread it far and wide.
This is truly what we are doing at Project Avalon. We are at the very heart of this. A New Civilization, a new way of being on Planet Earth, is being born.




Blessed Unrest, by Paul Hawken
How the Largest Movement in the World Came into Being
and Why No One Saw It Coming

[...]


Please take time to watch this video again. There's a reason why Hawken's presentation feels like a revival gathering. It is. Hawken is the quintessential corporate insider ... now being promoted by the nefarious establishment as one of the head horsemen of its Green Cavalry, a charging brigade of indoctrinated soldiers bent on delivering Agenda 21 and the such, through subtle pressures and carefully measured tactics. An army and an arm of the NWO that wants to put Tesla technology in a half-nelson hold and pursue less establishment-threatening; less efficient; less regular (sunshine on a cloudy day??) but commercially-viable (i.e. taxable) alternative energies like solar energy. Here's some bio on Paul Hawken: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Hawken

Here's more proof of his establishment credentials.:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/marc-gunther/paul-hawkens-winning-inve_b_462413.html

beginExcerpt
Why haven't they done better? Some of us have long believed that the problem with conventional SRI funds is that their definition of "socially responsible" is not nearly as rigorous as it could or should be.

Paul Hawken has been vocal in his critique of the SRI establishment, and since 2005 he has put his money where his mouth is. In a partnership with Baldwin Brothers, a Massachusetts-based investment firm, Hawken has overseen the Highwater Global Fund, a fund for qualified investors (i.e., the rich) that invests in companies "that have a clear sense of current global trends and future societal needs." His results have been impressive, to say the least.

Since inception in the fall of 2005, Highwater is up by a total of 52.55%. During the three years ended in December (the same period cited above), Highwater is up by a total of 19.75%. This is, in part, because Hawken and the other fund managers are very picky about what stocks they hold. More than 90% of the Fortune 500 fail their screens.

If you don't know about Paul Hawken, you should. He's a path-breaking thinker and influential writer whose books include The Ecology of Commere (1993), Natural Capitalism (1999, with Amory and Hunter Lovins) and Blessed Unrest (2007). He's an entrepreneur who founded Erewhon and Smith & Hawken, and an advisor who has worked with to Wal-Mart and Ford. These days, he's focused on a startup in stealth mode called OneSun, a a solar energy company based on green chemistry and biomimcry.

I had the great pleasure of visiting with Hawken last week at his office in Sausalito, CA. Mostly, we talked solar. OneSun's chief science officer is John Warner, a pioneer of green chemistry, a longtime researcher at Polaroid and author (with Paul Anastas, now EPA's top researcher) of Green Chemistry: Theory and Practice. OneSun has hired more than a dozen PhD.'s and aims to produce "solar beneath the cost of nuclear and coal," Hawken says, but he's not ready to divulge much more yet.
end



Forget that he was an advisor to Wal-mart and Ford, two of the more egregious establishment corporations; forget that he co-authored Green Chemistry with Paul Anastas (an Environmental Protection Agency muppet) ... listen to what Hawken himself says and measure it against what your own research and intuition tells you.

One, Hawken guesses that the number of such groups (he lists a few hundred groups maybe, and then uses graphical artistry to mask the supposed others, leaving their existence entirely to our imagination) ... ranges anywhere from one million to two million. Hello? Is this science ... or is this a number pulled out of the ether like a a rabbit from a magician's hat?

Two, how does Hawken know that this alleged one million (or two) are all with unified purpose, e.g. part of the same movement? The only way this is possible - leave alone the absurdity of the proposition of a million heads thinking as one - is if all such groups had been directed to a unified purpose ... and this implies a central command structure. The obvious candidates for such a command structure are the (Ford/Rockefeller/Rothschild) foundations and institutes. History shows that such foundations/institutes finance the NGOs and such through direct and indirect foundational grants.

Three, the biggest red flag is Hawken's lack of forthrightness ... Tesla technology is now the barometer of genuine energy reform. You promote it, then you are genuinely of the grass-roots revolution. But if you continue to promote phony energy dreams that go nowhere fast (e.g. wind, solar, water, fossil fuels), then you are part of the existing problem and the old paradigm of power in the pyramidal design.

Please use discernment. Thank you.

Humble opinions all around.

:smow::typing:

ps: Yes, even nuns can get it wrong from time to time. Bless her heart for trying to find the truth all the same.

And also notice how he doesn't talk from direct experience. Anyone that talks this way is not sharing what is real.

¤=[Post Update]=¤




The source of negative energy is not the informed opinion or the humble one ... but the lack of tolerance for such opinions.



And just to add to what Zook says, you need to understand both the negative and the positive spin in order to have true knowledge.
Information and disinformation is the same if a person is void of inspiration.

[ceetee9]

For those who are interested in growing and learning how to better be a part of the solution for peacefully transforming this world into what we all know is possible, checkout this website:
http://www.transformationteam.net
And these:
http://www.personalgrowthcourses.net/
http://www.wanttoknow.info/

[Bollinger]

Bollinger i agree with much of your first post. you may have noticed that i acknowledged that you might be right at the end of my post-with tongue slightly in cheek(i am a realist as well, though a bit more optimistic than you) however, an accurate summary of your 2nd post could easily read: sit on your hands and wait for ptb to come around. it hardly seems right to eviscerate an effort without providing a solution of your own. i don't ask you this to engender some sort of flip response from you; i'm genuinely curious. you obviously put alot of time and effort into your posts, and i'm interested in your thoughts.

the plan will never look good on paper. the dream and the reality will never line up flush. there will always be a chasm that requires a leap. grassroots people start grassroots movements because they don't have the resources to start larger movements. if they did, they'd be conscious or unconscious supporters of ptb, and no movement would be required, obviously. i hate it when people quote movies to make a point but i'll do it anyway. in 'bRaveheart' william wallace is called to meet the nobles for a meeting, under the guise of joining forces. it appears to be an obvious set-up, and this is pointed out by a friend. wallace replies "you know what'll happen if we don't meet the nobles?" friend asks "what?" wallace replies "nothin". the point: we have to at least try, no matter how unrealistic. where else would you suggest these people apply their intellectual resources?

as far as this speaker being NWO affiliated (GROAN) who knows? maybe. i think everybody on this site has been accused of this at some point, what with the paranioa running rampant. if the alternative community is to have any sort of chance, WE NEED A CORPORATE GUY.(i'm likely to be NWO accused for even suggesting it lol!)we need someone who understands the in's and out's of the corporate world. any would-be savior will have to come from this world, otherwise he'll be useless. a few residual hippies from the 60's will not help anybody.

Well I’m not sure that being right or wrong comes into it. I don’t see things in the same way as most others do. For example, people talk about being positive or negative. To me that is an irrelevance because whether someone chooses to be positive or negative about something says nothing about whether or not that something is true. You can be as positive as you like about saying that 2 + 2 = 5 but it changes nothing.

As for a solution, I think I was hinting at the “unthinkable” prospect that our problems may in fact be unsolvable and perhaps it was designed to be so if it was designed at all. Why does everyone automatically assume that we can dig ourselves out of it if we do “something”? I would prefer to “sit on my hands” as you call it, rather than hurl stones at the moon because it looks so big and close.

From where does this insatiable appetite for a happy ending arise? It certainly doesn’t come from experience. We all like to watch movies and read stories that give us that feel-good factor but almost every movie made tends to have a happy ending. In fact, most things in life go against us with only a handful of things actually working in our favour.

Then there is the psychological side to it. We all want change but can we even agree on what that change should be? No, of course we can’t.

I decided to watch the last edition of Zeitgeist the other day (Moving Forward I think) where they have all sorts of good ideas about what shape future cities should be and what renewable power we can use and how we can share transportation etc. However, not one word was spoken about the thing that got us into and keeps us in this mess in the first place. Human greed and ego aren’t about to bow out because we’ve decided we want change. Those things will still be there. It’s also no good if only a handful of people (compared to the vast majority) decide to change. We ALL must change if there is going to be any prospect of achieving what we want. Now you tell me if you think that is possible? We have 7 billion greedy egos running around trying to overtake the person in front of them. Does that sound to you like it can change?

You can choose to hear these words in a negative tone if you like but that’s the choice of the reader. These are the realities. That’s what we have standing before us.

Most people who expound these wondrous ideas about lifting ourselves out of the darkness by awakening the great “spirit within” or contacting our “higher self” or “meditating a solution” or “changing our reality” utter these phrases because it makes them and others happy, and if enough people repeat it, well, there has to be something in it. That’s where we part company.

Our minds are capable of playing very cruel tricks on us if we’re not careful. Others talk of “discernment” as if that was a good way of arriving at truth.

The last thing I want to say is whether or not this false hype about things changing is actually harmful. And that brings me to why I bother writing these things at all. Yes, they can be harmful. Here is why. While people rush to tag themselves onto the tail of another tangent of false hope and prophesy, they subconsciously absolve themselves of the responsibility to look for real answers; thinking we’ve found it, no need to look further.

The highest tenet of any religion is that it is the final arbiter on all things and must be believed without question because that is what defines faith. I can think of nothing more harmful to humanity than being led up the garden path because its emotions were stirred by a clever orator who happens to have his own agenda.

Will we ever learn?

[Revere]

If we had as many actions as opinions we would be making more progress around here.

Just be a doer out of love to your fellow man right where you are now. And maybe pray your actions are contagious. It's that simple.

"You have not because you ask not"
..................................................Jesus

Peace,

-R-

[greybeard]

Bolinger I agree.
There is tremendous power in total acceptance of what is.
Thats is not judging not condoning.
It is as it is.
Neither aversion nor attraction.
No agenda
Then right action happens and is very poweful
We are seeing increasing polarity at the moment and out of that chaos change for the better will occur.
It is down to us individually though
Chris

[Bollinger]

Bolinger I agree.
There is tremendous power in total acceptance of what is.
Thats is not judging not condoning.
It is as it is.
Neither aversion nor attraction.
No agenda
Then right action happens and is very poweful
We are seeing increasing polarity at the moment and out of that chaos change for the better will occur.
It is down to us individually though
Chris


Hi Chris, hope you’re keeping well.

Yes, I think perhaps there is a great deal of mileage in bringing oneself to accept the current state of affairs but not being bothered by it. In fact, we have to do this otherwise we’d go mad if we keep thinking about nothing but how awful and unjust the world is.

However, when someone puts their hand up and says “I’ve found it, it’s here, I’m the one, follow me” I get very defensive because all our experience shows that thousands upon thousands of people have come, said the same thing and then disappeared without a trace. It would be folly to think that the last one is the one.

That naturally brings us onto the question “Is there something we can do?” or “Is there any sign that things might get better?” and I see no concrete evidence from anywhere that suggests the answer to either of those questions is yes.

[Newlyn]

Great video!
Not because he who is talking is a saint.
But because it has a positive focus, gives a picture of a world and a people in action
and can inspire people to do what they can.

THAT is why it is good

[westhill]

Hello Bill...
My first inclination was to "Thank You" but I happened to listen to an interview with Niki Raapana on American Freedom Radio's Truth Brigade concerning Communitarianism. In other words Agenda 21. I did a little searching and found Paul Hawken linked to the implementation of this agenda. This is a complicated topic which I am not fluent but my internal gut said whoa, take a deeper look, which I will.
Bye for now... westhill

[Fred259]

Good morning Good Avalonians, the Earth says hello!


--------
Dear Friends:
Every Avalon member must watch this video. It was brought to my attention this morning by the beautiful Ninja Nun (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?12082-A-message-from-a-Nun-about-the-Charles-material). :)
It astonished me, and brought tears to my eyes. It is of the utmost importance. Spread it far and wide.
This is truly what we are doing at Project Avalon. We are at the very heart of this. A New Civilization, a new way of being on Planet Earth, is being born.




Blessed Unrest, by Paul Hawken
How the Largest Movement in the World Came into Being
and Why No One Saw It Coming

[...]


Please take time to watch this video again. There's a reason why Hawken's presentation feels like a revival gathering. It is. Hawken is the quintessential corporate insider ... now being promoted by the nefarious establishment as one of the head horsemen of its Green Cavalry, a charging brigade of indoctrinated soldiers bent on delivering Agenda 21 and the such, through subtle pressures and carefully measured tactics. An army and an arm of the NWO that wants to put Tesla technology in a half-nelson hold and pursue less establishment-threatening; less efficient; less regular (sunshine on a cloudy day??) but commercially-viable (i.e. taxable) alternative energies like solar energy. Here's some bio on Paul Hawken: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Hawken

Here's more proof of his establishment credentials.:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/marc-gunther/paul-hawkens-winning-inve_b_462413.html

beginExcerpt
Why haven't they done better? Some of us have long believed that the problem with conventional SRI funds is that their definition of "socially responsible" is not nearly as rigorous as it could or should be.

Paul Hawken has been vocal in his critique of the SRI establishment, and since 2005 he has put his money where his mouth is. In a partnership with Baldwin Brothers, a Massachusetts-based investment firm, Hawken has overseen the Highwater Global Fund, a fund for qualified investors (i.e., the rich) that invests in companies "that have a clear sense of current global trends and future societal needs." His results have been impressive, to say the least.

Since inception in the fall of 2005, Highwater is up by a total of 52.55%. During the three years ended in December (the same period cited above), Highwater is up by a total of 19.75%. This is, in part, because Hawken and the other fund managers are very picky about what stocks they hold. More than 90% of the Fortune 500 fail their screens.

If you don't know about Paul Hawken, you should. He's a path-breaking thinker and influential writer whose books include The Ecology of Commere (1993), Natural Capitalism (1999, with Amory and Hunter Lovins) and Blessed Unrest (2007). He's an entrepreneur who founded Erewhon and Smith & Hawken, and an advisor who has worked with to Wal-Mart and Ford. These days, he's focused on a startup in stealth mode called OneSun, a a solar energy company based on green chemistry and biomimcry.

I had the great pleasure of visiting with Hawken last week at his office in Sausalito, CA. Mostly, we talked solar. OneSun's chief science officer is John Warner, a pioneer of green chemistry, a longtime researcher at Polaroid and author (with Paul Anastas, now EPA's top researcher) of Green Chemistry: Theory and Practice. OneSun has hired more than a dozen PhD.'s and aims to produce "solar beneath the cost of nuclear and coal," Hawken says, but he's not ready to divulge much more yet.
end



Forget that he was an advisor to Wal-mart and Ford, two of the more egregious establishment corporations; forget that he co-authored Green Chemistry with Paul Anastas (an Environmental Protection Agency muppet) ... listen to what Hawken himself says and measure it against what your own research and intuition tells you.

One, Hawken guesses that the number of such groups (he lists a few hundred groups maybe, and then uses graphical artistry to mask the supposed others, leaving their existence entirely to our imagination) ... ranges anywhere from one million to two million. Hello? Is this science ... or is this a number pulled out of the ether like a a rabbit from a magician's hat?

Two, how does Hawken know that this alleged one million (or two) are all with unified purpose, e.g. part of the same movement? The only way this is possible - leave alone the absurdity of the proposition of a million heads thinking as one - is if all such groups had been directed to a unified purpose ... and this implies a central command structure. The obvious candidates for such a command structure are the (Ford/Rockefeller/Rothschild) foundations and institutes. History shows that such foundations/institutes finance the NGOs and such through direct and indirect foundational grants.

Three, the biggest red flag is Hawken's lack of forthrightness ... Tesla technology is now the barometer of genuine energy reform. You promote it, then you are genuinely of the grass-roots revolution. But if you continue to promote phony energy dreams that go nowhere fast (e.g. wind, solar, water, fossil fuels), then you are part of the existing problem and the old paradigm of power in the pyramidal design.

Please use discernment. Thank you.

Humble opinions all around.

:smow::typing:

ps: Yes, even nuns can get it wrong from time to time. Bless her heart for trying to find the truth all the same.


Zook, I couldn’t agree more,

What is wrong with you people, why do you have to have all these mumbo jumbo people around you to lead you to salvation?

We have just got rid of one clown whose proposal was to slaughter 6 billion and the forum was jammed full with stupid daft proposals, and I was hoping that at least some common sense might start to prevail and now we have this next Muppet.

Where did this video come from, who put it up, is this the next attempt to destroy the forum.

Do you really understand what subversion is?

You are all prime candidates for this, Charles was spectacularly successful in leading you to the promised land with empty promises, did you really believe that you were going to be one of the 500 million who would be saved?

Stop believing this garbage folks its the “New World Order” and be advised that the plan still exists as per the thread on the forum to reduce the world population to 500 million and that doesn’t include you so for God Sake wake up and smell the coffee.

This is reality. The “New World Order” is enemy number one. Until they are crushed and defeated, your long term life expectancy and that of your children is not guaranteed.

[greybeard]

I honestly think that it is down to the individual being the change we want to see.
I seem to remember reading that one person has a spere of influence on thirty others.
If I make one persons day there is a ripple effect, If I rain on some ones parade it starts a deluge.

The biggest difficulty is for a whistle blower / investigative forum to change from head to heart.

It is one thing to know what is going on another to make an enemy of the culprit.
The moment you turn the Powers that Be into an enemy you are using the same negative low vibration that they use,
They feed on that energy, you cant win, it is not a level playing field.
You need to raise the level of consciousness
That is where true power lies.
I refer to Gandhi who used heart power/ spiritual energy to bring down the British Colonial Empire.
That is no small deal.

Give Bill a break he posted the video in good faith, he is coming from heart.

Chris

[Newlyn]

Good morning Good Avalonians, the Earth says hello!


--------
Dear Friends:
Every Avalon member must watch this video. It was brought to my attention this morning by the beautiful Ninja Nun (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?12082-A-message-from-a-Nun-about-the-Charles-material). :)
It astonished me, and brought tears to my eyes. It is of the utmost importance. Spread it far and wide.
This is truly what we are doing at Project Avalon. We are at the very heart of this. A New Civilization, a new way of being on Planet Earth, is being born.




Blessed Unrest, by Paul Hawken
How the Largest Movement in the World Came into Being
and Why No One Saw It Coming

[...]


Please take time to watch this video again. There's a reason why Hawken's presentation feels like a revival gathering. It is. Hawken is the quintessential corporate insider ... now being promoted by the nefarious establishment as one of the head horsemen of its Green Cavalry, a charging brigade of indoctrinated soldiers bent on delivering Agenda 21 and the such, through subtle pressures and carefully measured tactics. An army and an arm of the NWO that wants to put Tesla technology in a half-nelson hold and pursue less establishment-threatening; less efficient; less regular (sunshine on a cloudy day??) but commercially-viable (i.e. taxable) alternative energies like solar energy. Here's some bio on Paul Hawken: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Hawken

Here's more proof of his establishment credentials.:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/marc-gunther/paul-hawkens-winning-inve_b_462413.html

beginExcerpt
Why haven't they done better? Some of us have long believed that the problem with conventional SRI funds is that their definition of "socially responsible" is not nearly as rigorous as it could or should be.

Paul Hawken has been vocal in his critique of the SRI establishment, and since 2005 he has put his money where his mouth is. In a partnership with Baldwin Brothers, a Massachusetts-based investment firm, Hawken has overseen the Highwater Global Fund, a fund for qualified investors (i.e., the rich) that invests in companies "that have a clear sense of current global trends and future societal needs." His results have been impressive, to say the least.

Since inception in the fall of 2005, Highwater is up by a total of 52.55%. During the three years ended in December (the same period cited above), Highwater is up by a total of 19.75%. This is, in part, because Hawken and the other fund managers are very picky about what stocks they hold. More than 90% of the Fortune 500 fail their screens.

If you don't know about Paul Hawken, you should. He's a path-breaking thinker and influential writer whose books include The Ecology of Commere (1993), Natural Capitalism (1999, with Amory and Hunter Lovins) and Blessed Unrest (2007). He's an entrepreneur who founded Erewhon and Smith & Hawken, and an advisor who has worked with to Wal-Mart and Ford. These days, he's focused on a startup in stealth mode called OneSun, a a solar energy company based on green chemistry and biomimcry.

I had the great pleasure of visiting with Hawken last week at his office in Sausalito, CA. Mostly, we talked solar. OneSun's chief science officer is John Warner, a pioneer of green chemistry, a longtime researcher at Polaroid and author (with Paul Anastas, now EPA's top researcher) of Green Chemistry: Theory and Practice. OneSun has hired more than a dozen PhD.'s and aims to produce "solar beneath the cost of nuclear and coal," Hawken says, but he's not ready to divulge much more yet.
end



Forget that he was an advisor to Wal-mart and Ford, two of the more egregious establishment corporations; forget that he co-authored Green Chemistry with Paul Anastas (an Environmental Protection Agency muppet) ... listen to what Hawken himself says and measure it against what your own research and intuition tells you.

One, Hawken guesses that the number of such groups (he lists a few hundred groups maybe, and then uses graphical artistry to mask the supposed others, leaving their existence entirely to our imagination) ... ranges anywhere from one million to two million. Hello? Is this science ... or is this a number pulled out of the ether like a a rabbit from a magician's hat?

Two, how does Hawken know that this alleged one million (or two) are all with unified purpose, e.g. part of the same movement? The only way this is possible - leave alone the absurdity of the proposition of a million heads thinking as one - is if all such groups had been directed to a unified purpose ... and this implies a central command structure. The obvious candidates for such a command structure are the (Ford/Rockefeller/Rothschild) foundations and institutes. History shows that such foundations/institutes finance the NGOs and such through direct and indirect foundational grants.

Three, the biggest red flag is Hawken's lack of forthrightness ... Tesla technology is now the barometer of genuine energy reform. You promote it, then you are genuinely of the grass-roots revolution. But if you continue to promote phony energy dreams that go nowhere fast (e.g. wind, solar, water, fossil fuels), then you are part of the existing problem and the old paradigm of power in the pyramidal design.

Please use discernment. Thank you.

Humble opinions all around.

:smow::typing:

ps: Yes, even nuns can get it wrong from time to time. Bless her heart for trying to find the truth all the same.


Zook, I couldn’t agree more,

What is wrong with you people, why do you have to have all these mumbo jumbo people around you to lead you to salvation?

We have just got rid of one clown whose proposal was to slaughter 6 billion and the forum was jammed full with stupid daft proposals, and I was hoping that at least some common sense might start to prevail and now we have this next Muppet.

Where did this video come from, who put it up, is this the next attempt to destroy the forum.

Do you really understand what subversion is?

You are all prime candidates for this, Charles was spectacularly successful in leading you to the promised land with empty promises, did you really believe that you were going to be one of the 500 million who would be saved?

Stop believing this garbage folks its the “New World Order” and be advised that the plan still exists as per the thread on the forum to reduce the world population to 500 million and that doesn’t include you so for God Sake wake up and smell the coffee.

This is reality. The “New World Order” is enemy number one. Until they are crushed and defeated, your long term life expectancy and that of your children is not guaranteed.

You will become a part of what you are fighting. You will fight yourself. You will drop down to their level of existance, and stay there.

To "fight the new world order" is to me as stupid as "war on terror" or "war on war". There is a spiritual awakening here. People who is not fighting the fighters, but doing the opposite, fighting for love. That's something totally different :)

Where your attention goes, your energy flows. Rise above it, and work for the opposite. Don't feed the wrong wolf by fighting on their terms.

[Fred259]

Good morning Good Avalonians, the Earth says hello!


--------
Dear Friends:
Every Avalon member must watch this video. It was brought to my attention this morning by the beautiful Ninja Nun (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?12082-A-message-from-a-Nun-about-the-Charles-material). :)
It astonished me, and brought tears to my eyes. It is of the utmost importance. Spread it far and wide.
This is truly what we are doing at Project Avalon. We are at the very heart of this. A New Civilization, a new way of being on Planet Earth, is being born.




Blessed Unrest, by Paul Hawken
How the Largest Movement in the World Came into Being
and Why No One Saw It Coming

[...]


Please take time to watch this video again. There's a reason why Hawken's presentation feels like a revival gathering. It is. Hawken is the quintessential corporate insider ... now being promoted by the nefarious establishment as one of the head horsemen of its Green Cavalry, a charging brigade of indoctrinated soldiers bent on delivering Agenda 21 and the such, through subtle pressures and carefully measured tactics. An army and an arm of the NWO that wants to put Tesla technology in a half-nelson hold and pursue less establishment-threatening; less efficient; less regular (sunshine on a cloudy day??) but commercially-viable (i.e. taxable) alternative energies like solar energy. Here's some bio on Paul Hawken: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Hawken

Here's more proof of his establishment credentials.:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/marc-gunther/paul-hawkens-winning-inve_b_462413.html

beginExcerpt
Why haven't they done better? Some of us have long believed that the problem with conventional SRI funds is that their definition of "socially responsible" is not nearly as rigorous as it could or should be.

Paul Hawken has been vocal in his critique of the SRI establishment, and since 2005 he has put his money where his mouth is. In a partnership with Baldwin Brothers, a Massachusetts-based investment firm, Hawken has overseen the Highwater Global Fund, a fund for qualified investors (i.e., the rich) that invests in companies "that have a clear sense of current global trends and future societal needs." His results have been impressive, to say the least.

Since inception in the fall of 2005, Highwater is up by a total of 52.55%. During the three years ended in December (the same period cited above), Highwater is up by a total of 19.75%. This is, in part, because Hawken and the other fund managers are very picky about what stocks they hold. More than 90% of the Fortune 500 fail their screens.

If you don't know about Paul Hawken, you should. He's a path-breaking thinker and influential writer whose books include The Ecology of Commere (1993), Natural Capitalism (1999, with Amory and Hunter Lovins) and Blessed Unrest (2007). He's an entrepreneur who founded Erewhon and Smith & Hawken, and an advisor who has worked with to Wal-Mart and Ford. These days, he's focused on a startup in stealth mode called OneSun, a a solar energy company based on green chemistry and biomimcry.

I had the great pleasure of visiting with Hawken last week at his office in Sausalito, CA. Mostly, we talked solar. OneSun's chief science officer is John Warner, a pioneer of green chemistry, a longtime researcher at Polaroid and author (with Paul Anastas, now EPA's top researcher) of Green Chemistry: Theory and Practice. OneSun has hired more than a dozen PhD.'s and aims to produce "solar beneath the cost of nuclear and coal," Hawken says, but he's not ready to divulge much more yet.
end



Forget that he was an advisor to Wal-mart and Ford, two of the more egregious establishment corporations; forget that he co-authored Green Chemistry with Paul Anastas (an Environmental Protection Agency muppet) ... listen to what Hawken himself says and measure it against what your own research and intuition tells you.

One, Hawken guesses that the number of such groups (he lists a few hundred groups maybe, and then uses graphical artistry to mask the supposed others, leaving their existence entirely to our imagination) ... ranges anywhere from one million to two million. Hello? Is this science ... or is this a number pulled out of the ether like a a rabbit from a magician's hat?

Two, how does Hawken know that this alleged one million (or two) are all with unified purpose, e.g. part of the same movement? The only way this is possible - leave alone the absurdity of the proposition of a million heads thinking as one - is if all such groups had been directed to a unified purpose ... and this implies a central command structure. The obvious candidates for such a command structure are the (Ford/Rockefeller/Rothschild) foundations and institutes. History shows that such foundations/institutes finance the NGOs and such through direct and indirect foundational grants.

Three, the biggest red flag is Hawken's lack of forthrightness ... Tesla technology is now the barometer of genuine energy reform. You promote it, then you are genuinely of the grass-roots revolution. But if you continue to promote phony energy dreams that go nowhere fast (e.g. wind, solar, water, fossil fuels), then you are part of the existing problem and the old paradigm of power in the pyramidal design.

Please use discernment. Thank you.

Humble opinions all around.

:smow::typing:

ps: Yes, even nuns can get it wrong from time to time. Bless her heart for trying to find the truth all the same.


Zook, I couldn’t agree more,

What is wrong with you people, why do you have to have all these mumbo jumbo people around you to lead you to salvation?

We have just got rid of one clown whose proposal was to slaughter 6 billion and the forum was jammed full with stupid daft proposals, and I was hoping that at least some common sense might start to prevail and now we have this next Muppet.

Where did this video come from, who put it up, is this the next attempt to destroy the forum.

Do you really understand what subversion is?

You are all prime candidates for this, Charles was spectacularly successful in leading you to the promised land with empty promises, did you really believe that you were going to be one of the 500 million who would be saved?

Stop believing this garbage folks its the “New World Order” and be advised that the plan still exists as per the thread on the forum to reduce the world population to 500 million and that doesn’t include you so for God Sake wake up and smell the coffee.

This is reality. The “New World Order” is enemy number one. Until they are crushed and defeated, your long term life expectancy and that of your children is not guaranteed.

You will become a part of what you are fighting. You will fight yourself. You will drop down to their level of existance, and stay there.

To "fight the new world order" is to me as stupid as "war on terror" or "war on war". There is a spiritual awakening here. People who is not fighting the fighters, but doing the opposite, fighting for love. That's something totally different :)

Where your attention goes, your energy flows. Rise above it, and work for the opposite. Don't feed the wrong wolf by fighting on their terms.

Thanks for the post Newlyn, I see you are in Sweden, so your country is about to collapse having being destroyed by Marxists, which of course is a great shame.

You talk about a spiritual awakening, was that the same awakening may I ask when Charles was here, was that a spiritual awakening?

[Constance]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-Ie4Cwx1zQ

This just made my heart explode with love!

[Newlyn]

Good morning Good Avalonians, the Earth says hello!


--------
Dear Friends:
Every Avalon member must watch this video. It was brought to my attention this morning by the beautiful Ninja Nun (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?12082-A-message-from-a-Nun-about-the-Charles-material). :)
It astonished me, and brought tears to my eyes. It is of the utmost importance. Spread it far and wide.
This is truly what we are doing at Project Avalon. We are at the very heart of this. A New Civilization, a new way of being on Planet Earth, is being born.




Blessed Unrest, by Paul Hawken
How the Largest Movement in the World Came into Being
and Why No One Saw It Coming

[...]


Please take time to watch this video again. There's a reason why Hawken's presentation feels like a revival gathering. It is. Hawken is the quintessential corporate insider ... now being promoted by the nefarious establishment as one of the head horsemen of its Green Cavalry, a charging brigade of indoctrinated soldiers bent on delivering Agenda 21 and the such, through subtle pressures and carefully measured tactics. An army and an arm of the NWO that wants to put Tesla technology in a half-nelson hold and pursue less establishment-threatening; less efficient; less regular (sunshine on a cloudy day??) but commercially-viable (i.e. taxable) alternative energies like solar energy. Here's some bio on Paul Hawken: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Hawken

Here's more proof of his establishment credentials.:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/marc-gunther/paul-hawkens-winning-inve_b_462413.html

beginExcerpt
Why haven't they done better? Some of us have long believed that the problem with conventional SRI funds is that their definition of "socially responsible" is not nearly as rigorous as it could or should be.

Paul Hawken has been vocal in his critique of the SRI establishment, and since 2005 he has put his money where his mouth is. In a partnership with Baldwin Brothers, a Massachusetts-based investment firm, Hawken has overseen the Highwater Global Fund, a fund for qualified investors (i.e., the rich) that invests in companies "that have a clear sense of current global trends and future societal needs." His results have been impressive, to say the least.

Since inception in the fall of 2005, Highwater is up by a total of 52.55%. During the three years ended in December (the same period cited above), Highwater is up by a total of 19.75%. This is, in part, because Hawken and the other fund managers are very picky about what stocks they hold. More than 90% of the Fortune 500 fail their screens.

If you don't know about Paul Hawken, you should. He's a path-breaking thinker and influential writer whose books include The Ecology of Commere (1993), Natural Capitalism (1999, with Amory and Hunter Lovins) and Blessed Unrest (2007). He's an entrepreneur who founded Erewhon and Smith & Hawken, and an advisor who has worked with to Wal-Mart and Ford. These days, he's focused on a startup in stealth mode called OneSun, a a solar energy company based on green chemistry and biomimcry.

I had the great pleasure of visiting with Hawken last week at his office in Sausalito, CA. Mostly, we talked solar. OneSun's chief science officer is John Warner, a pioneer of green chemistry, a longtime researcher at Polaroid and author (with Paul Anastas, now EPA's top researcher) of Green Chemistry: Theory and Practice. OneSun has hired more than a dozen PhD.'s and aims to produce "solar beneath the cost of nuclear and coal," Hawken says, but he's not ready to divulge much more yet.
end



Forget that he was an advisor to Wal-mart and Ford, two of the more egregious establishment corporations; forget that he co-authored Green Chemistry with Paul Anastas (an Environmental Protection Agency muppet) ... listen to what Hawken himself says and measure it against what your own research and intuition tells you.

One, Hawken guesses that the number of such groups (he lists a few hundred groups maybe, and then uses graphical artistry to mask the supposed others, leaving their existence entirely to our imagination) ... ranges anywhere from one million to two million. Hello? Is this science ... or is this a number pulled out of the ether like a a rabbit from a magician's hat?

Two, how does Hawken know that this alleged one million (or two) are all with unified purpose, e.g. part of the same movement? The only way this is possible - leave alone the absurdity of the proposition of a million heads thinking as one - is if all such groups had been directed to a unified purpose ... and this implies a central command structure. The obvious candidates for such a command structure are the (Ford/Rockefeller/Rothschild) foundations and institutes. History shows that such foundations/institutes finance the NGOs and such through direct and indirect foundational grants.

Three, the biggest red flag is Hawken's lack of forthrightness ... Tesla technology is now the barometer of genuine energy reform. You promote it, then you are genuinely of the grass-roots revolution. But if you continue to promote phony energy dreams that go nowhere fast (e.g. wind, solar, water, fossil fuels), then you are part of the existing problem and the old paradigm of power in the pyramidal design.

Please use discernment. Thank you.

Humble opinions all around.

:smow::typing:

ps: Yes, even nuns can get it wrong from time to time. Bless her heart for trying to find the truth all the same.


Zook, I couldn’t agree more,

What is wrong with you people, why do you have to have all these mumbo jumbo people around you to lead you to salvation?

We have just got rid of one clown whose proposal was to slaughter 6 billion and the forum was jammed full with stupid daft proposals, and I was hoping that at least some common sense might start to prevail and now we have this next Muppet.

Where did this video come from, who put it up, is this the next attempt to destroy the forum.

Do you really understand what subversion is?

You are all prime candidates for this, Charles was spectacularly successful in leading you to the promised land with empty promises, did you really believe that you were going to be one of the 500 million who would be saved?

Stop believing this garbage folks its the “New World Order” and be advised that the plan still exists as per the thread on the forum to reduce the world population to 500 million and that doesn’t include you so for God Sake wake up and smell the coffee.

This is reality. The “New World Order” is enemy number one. Until they are crushed and defeated, your long term life expectancy and that of your children is not guaranteed.

You will become a part of what you are fighting. You will fight yourself. You will drop down to their level of existance, and stay there.

To "fight the new world order" is to me as stupid as "war on terror" or "war on war". There is a spiritual awakening here. People who is not fighting the fighters, but doing the opposite, fighting for love. That's something totally different :)

Where your attention goes, your energy flows. Rise above it, and work for the opposite. Don't feed the wrong wolf by fighting on their terms.

Thanks for the post Newlyn, I see you are in Sweden, so your country is about to collapse having being destroyed by Marxists, which of course is a great shame.

You talk about a spiritual awakening, was that the same awakening may I ask when Charles was here, was that a spiritual awakening?

What is this?

Well you don't have to agree, but why start complaining about my country? I just offer a different perspective, as best.

I did not mention Charles, I never talked with him. Best wishes to you.

[Fred259]

Good morning Good Avalonians, the Earth says hello!


--------
Dear Friends:
Every Avalon member must watch this video. It was brought to my attention this morning by the beautiful Ninja Nun (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?12082-A-message-from-a-Nun-about-the-Charles-material). :)
It astonished me, and brought tears to my eyes. It is of the utmost importance. Spread it far and wide.
This is truly what we are doing at Project Avalon. We are at the very heart of this. A New Civilization, a new way of being on Planet Earth, is being born.




Blessed Unrest, by Paul Hawken
How the Largest Movement in the World Came into Being
and Why No One Saw It Coming

[...]


Please take time to watch this video again. There's a reason why Hawken's presentation feels like a revival gathering. It is. Hawken is the quintessential corporate insider ... now being promoted by the nefarious establishment as one of the head horsemen of its Green Cavalry, a charging brigade of indoctrinated soldiers bent on delivering Agenda 21 and the such, through subtle pressures and carefully measured tactics. An army and an arm of the NWO that wants to put Tesla technology in a half-nelson hold and pursue less establishment-threatening; less efficient; less regular (sunshine on a cloudy day??) but commercially-viable (i.e. taxable) alternative energies like solar energy. Here's some bio on Paul Hawken: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Hawken

Here's more proof of his establishment credentials.:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/marc-gunther/paul-hawkens-winning-inve_b_462413.html

beginExcerpt
Why haven't they done better? Some of us have long believed that the problem with conventional SRI funds is that their definition of "socially responsible" is not nearly as rigorous as it could or should be.

Paul Hawken has been vocal in his critique of the SRI establishment, and since 2005 he has put his money where his mouth is. In a partnership with Baldwin Brothers, a Massachusetts-based investment firm, Hawken has overseen the Highwater Global Fund, a fund for qualified investors (i.e., the rich) that invests in companies "that have a clear sense of current global trends and future societal needs." His results have been impressive, to say the least.

Since inception in the fall of 2005, Highwater is up by a total of 52.55%. During the three years ended in December (the same period cited above), Highwater is up by a total of 19.75%. This is, in part, because Hawken and the other fund managers are very picky about what stocks they hold. More than 90% of the Fortune 500 fail their screens.

If you don't know about Paul Hawken, you should. He's a path-breaking thinker and influential writer whose books include The Ecology of Commere (1993), Natural Capitalism (1999, with Amory and Hunter Lovins) and Blessed Unrest (2007). He's an entrepreneur who founded Erewhon and Smith & Hawken, and an advisor who has worked with to Wal-Mart and Ford. These days, he's focused on a startup in stealth mode called OneSun, a a solar energy company based on green chemistry and biomimcry.

I had the great pleasure of visiting with Hawken last week at his office in Sausalito, CA. Mostly, we talked solar. OneSun's chief science officer is John Warner, a pioneer of green chemistry, a longtime researcher at Polaroid and author (with Paul Anastas, now EPA's top researcher) of Green Chemistry: Theory and Practice. OneSun has hired more than a dozen PhD.'s and aims to produce "solar beneath the cost of nuclear and coal," Hawken says, but he's not ready to divulge much more yet.
end



Forget that he was an advisor to Wal-mart and Ford, two of the more egregious establishment corporations; forget that he co-authored Green Chemistry with Paul Anastas (an Environmental Protection Agency muppet) ... listen to what Hawken himself says and measure it against what your own research and intuition tells you.

One, Hawken guesses that the number of such groups (he lists a few hundred groups maybe, and then uses graphical artistry to mask the supposed others, leaving their existence entirely to our imagination) ... ranges anywhere from one million to two million. Hello? Is this science ... or is this a number pulled out of the ether like a a rabbit from a magician's hat?

Two, how does Hawken know that this alleged one million (or two) are all with unified purpose, e.g. part of the same movement? The only way this is possible - leave alone the absurdity of the proposition of a million heads thinking as one - is if all such groups had been directed to a unified purpose ... and this implies a central command structure. The obvious candidates for such a command structure are the (Ford/Rockefeller/Rothschild) foundations and institutes. History shows that such foundations/institutes finance the NGOs and such through direct and indirect foundational grants.

Three, the biggest red flag is Hawken's lack of forthrightness ... Tesla technology is now the barometer of genuine energy reform. You promote it, then you are genuinely of the grass-roots revolution. But if you continue to promote phony energy dreams that go nowhere fast (e.g. wind, solar, water, fossil fuels), then you are part of the existing problem and the old paradigm of power in the pyramidal design.

Please use discernment. Thank you.

Humble opinions all around.

:smow::typing:

ps: Yes, even nuns can get it wrong from time to time. Bless her heart for trying to find the truth all the same.


Zook, I couldn’t agree more,

What is wrong with you people, why do you have to have all these mumbo jumbo people around you to lead you to salvation?

We have just got rid of one clown whose proposal was to slaughter 6 billion and the forum was jammed full with stupid daft proposals, and I was hoping that at least some common sense might start to prevail and now we have this next Muppet.

Where did this video come from, who put it up, is this the next attempt to destroy the forum.

Do you really understand what subversion is?

You are all prime candidates for this, Charles was spectacularly successful in leading you to the promised land with empty promises, did you really believe that you were going to be one of the 500 million who would be saved?

Stop believing this garbage folks its the “New World Order” and be advised that the plan still exists as per the thread on the forum to reduce the world population to 500 million and that doesn’t include you so for God Sake wake up and smell the coffee.

This is reality. The “New World Order” is enemy number one. Until they are crushed and defeated, your long term life expectancy and that of your children is not guaranteed.

You will become a part of what you are fighting. You will fight yourself. You will drop down to their level of existance, and stay there.

To "fight the new world order" is to me as stupid as "war on terror" or "war on war". There is a spiritual awakening here. People who is not fighting the fighters, but doing the opposite, fighting for love. That's something totally different :)

Where your attention goes, your energy flows. Rise above it, and work for the opposite. Don't feed the wrong wolf by fighting on their terms.

Thanks for the post Newlyn, I see you are in Sweden, so your country is about to collapse having being destroyed by Marxists, which of course is a great shame.

You talk about a spiritual awakening, was that the same awakening may I ask when Charles was here, was that a spiritual awakening?

What is this?

Well you don't have to agree, but why start complaining about my country? I just offer a different perspective, as best.

I did not mention Charles, I never talked with him. Best wishes to you.

Precisely my point Newlyn, while you are all involved in your “spiritual awakening” and “fighting for love” your country is being destroyed, along with you it seems.

But I ask you again what happened to all the “spiritual awakening” when Charles was here, where is it now, because you were all crying your eyes out and feeling disappointed when he left. Can you not see that..

[Newlyn]

I honestly think that it is down to the individual being the change we want to see.
I seem to remember reading that one person has a spere of influence on thirty others.
If I make one persons day there is a ripple effect, If I rain on some ones parade it starts a deluge.

The biggest difficulty is for a whistle blower / investigative forum to change from head to heart.

It is one thing to know what is going on another to make an enemy of the culprit.
The moment you turn the Powers that Be into an enemy you are using the same negative low vibration that they use,
They feed on that energy, you cant win, it is not a level playing field.
You need to raise the level of consciousness
That is where true power lies.
I refer to Gandhi who used heart power/ spiritual energy to bring down the British Colonial Empire.
That is no small deal.

Give Bill a break he posted the video in good faith, he is coming from heart.

Chris

I see now we are on the same track you and I.

Is it not so, graybeard the wise? :second:

[Constance]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DgRCBN9nyzI&feature=related

the sweetness of this man cannot be denied...

[Newlyn]

Fred 259:
"Precisely my point Newlyn, while you are all involved in your “spiritual awakening” and “fighting for love” your country is being destroyed, along with you it seems.

But I ask you again what happened to all the “spiritual awakening” when Charles was here, where is it now, because you were all crying your eyes out and feeling disappointed when he left. Can you not see that.. "

You know "Fred" means "peace" in Swedish, and that is actually what I want here.

You talk about me as destroyed. A person you never met, never looked in the face, but still have so much angst against, it seems.

Are you talking with me about charles?

1: Off topic.

2: I never talked with him, don't know him. As I already stated.

3: When I talk about rising above the recent order in the world, walk the path of love, work for the good (the spiritual choice) I Do Not talk about Charles.

Best wishes

[Fred259]

Fred 259:
"Precisely my point Newlyn, while you are all involved in your “spiritual awakening” and “fighting for love” your country is being destroyed, along with you it seems.

But I ask you again what happened to all the “spiritual awakening” when Charles was here, where is it now, because you were all crying your eyes out and feeling disappointed when he left. Can you not see that.. "

You know "Fred" means "peace" in Swedish, and that is actually what I want here.

You talk about me as destroyed. A person you never met, never looked in the face, but still have so much angst against, it seems.

Are you talking with me about charles?

1: Off topic.

2: I never talked with him, don't know him. As I already stated.

3: When I talk about rising above the recent order in the world, walk the path of love, work for the good (the spiritual choice) I Do Not talk about Charles.

Best wishes

No Newlyn, I said your country is being destroyed, I mean Sweden, not you.

I mention Charles in the context that everyone rushed onto the forum to see what Charles was saying as if he is some kind of “Messiah”.

Now you have this new man, who is just a puppet for the new world order, do you realise that. You have to be able to think through this.

I was reading Greybeards post he said;

“The biggest difficulty is for a whistle blower / investigative forum to change from head to heart”.

I happen to agree with this, but you need to remain focused on the reality of the situation.

I think on the forum everyone is giving from the heart and not enough “head is being used”. Start thinking, they don’t care about you or your family, just as they don't care about your country, don’t be led by these people.

[jorr lundstrom]

Damn I thought Sweden was the only exeption. LMAO

[Sarlic]

Thanks for the info Zook and Fred

I like to think i dont follow anyone except maybe the wife who keeps my feet firmly on the ground

Still...might be best if i always do my own research with anything thats presented to me in the future.
I should be doing that anyway but i have a big prob with time at the moment as in i dont have any spare.

[Mike]

well Bollinger i agree with about 95% of what you're saying. i accept what is. i see the reality of the situation. i feel your frustration, and believe me, i feel it too. but i believe that even you have some hope, otherwise you wouldn't waste your time posting on this forum(and no, i'm not suggesting Avalon can save the world) the insatiable need for a happy ending exists because it's either that or mass genocide. i'll take the happy ending, regardless of how delusional it may be. why not??? like you seem to be saying, i've got nothing to lose, right?

if i was being buried alive under 15ft of dirt, i'd know i was doomed. but it wouldn't stop me from trying to dig myself out. it's survival instinct. i suppose i will go down lobbing rocks at the moon, if it comes down to that. maybe if i get a running start, cock back and really launch the f&#ker, who knows...

[Mike]

I honestly think that it is down to the individual being the change we want to see.
I seem to remember reading that one person has a spere of influence on thirty others.
If I make one persons day there is a ripple effect, If I rain on some ones parade it starts a deluge.

The biggest difficulty is for a whistle blower / investigative forum to change from head to heart.

It is one thing to know what is going on another to make an enemy of the culprit.
The moment you turn the Powers that Be into an enemy you are using the same negative low vibration that they use,
They feed on that energy, you cant win, it is not a level playing field.
You need to raise the level of consciousness
That is where true power lies.
I refer to Gandhi who used heart power/ spiritual energy to bring down the British Colonial Empire.
That is no small deal.

Give Bill a break he posted the video in good faith, he is coming from heart.

Chris

thanks Chris. regardless of how we feel about this particular speaker, or "movements" in the alt community, i think we all can agree that this video was posted in the proper spirit.

[Anchor]

Zook,

I applaud and honour your point of view. Please keep these going - you have a mind like a razor and we need these badly to keep us honest and help ensure the focus is justified.


One, Hawken guesses that the number of such groups (he lists a few hundred groups maybe, and then uses graphical artistry to mask the supposed others, leaving their existence entirely to our imagination) ... ranges anywhere from one million to two million. Hello? Is this science ... or is this a number pulled out of the ether like a a rabbit from a magician's hat?

Who said it was science - and why do you automatically assume he is cooking the books. The number initially referred to was 130,000 - then some conjecture after that.

It doesnt matter what the number is, the fact is there is a freaking lot of them, a surprising number that has not (it seems) really been appreciated for what it means.

All want better things for the planet, and that mass of intent is among the factors that is keeping us going right now and not burning to a crisp in some stupid war.

I think Avalon would be worthy to be counted among them.


Two, how does Hawken know that this alleged one million (or two) are all with unified purpose, e.g. part of the same movement? The only way this is possible - leave alone the absurdity of the proposition of a million heads thinking as one - is if all such groups had been directed to a unified purpose ... and this implies a central command structure. The obvious candidates for such a command structure are the (Ford/Rockefeller/Rothschild) foundations and institutes. History shows that such foundations/institutes finance the NGOs and such through direct and indirect foundational grants.

He doesn't claim they are all talking to each-other.

His last line

"Humankind knows what to do"

is the telling factor her. Deep down we all do, at least those that don't really *want* to trash the place anyway and are trying to make ammends for having done so in the past, and change things for the future. Our consensus recall of that "template" knowledge is getting easier and easier to access - this is why co-ordination of a sort becomes easier - and essentially spiritual.


Three, the biggest red flag is Hawken's lack of forthrightness ... Tesla technology is now the barometer of genuine energy reform. You promote it, then you are genuinely of the grass-roots revolution. But if you continue to promote phony energy dreams that go nowhere fast (e.g. wind, solar, water, fossil fuels), then you are part of the existing problem and the old paradigm of power in the pyramidal design.

So you want to attempt to disagree with what was said, by reference to something he did not say?

Good luck with that.


Yes, even nuns can get it wrong from time to time. Bless her heart for trying to find the truth all the same

IMO: Nuns making a reference to an interesting movie clip is something that can neither be right nor wrong.


Ride the wave.

John..

[Fred259]

http://www.bioneers.org/

Seriously folks, this is defiantly part of the UN Global Government Agenda. Don’t get sucked into all this.

A quick look at the website reveals they have campaigns on “Dreaming in New Mexico” some pie in the sky project on “reframing” the way people think. They are not the least bit interested in New Mexico other than to facilitate the destruction of America, as it borders with Texas / Mexico. New Mexico is a border gateway. Why NM why not Idaho?

In the Education section, and if you scroll down the page you find “Sustainable Living” What does this mean? It’s all about Maurice Strong, Agenda 21 and the United Nations a front for the New World Order. When these people talk about Education it’s not about Maths and Physics it’s about “dumbing down” and controlling you. We have this in the schools here in the UK, it’s an utter scam.

Food & Farming. I can’t see what the problem is within New Mexico. They will know about cultivating crops and animal husbandry. Let’s face it they have been rearing cattle along the NM border for the last two hundred years quite successfully long before big government arrived.

The video enclosed is about “Fair treatment for Farm workers” – Do you really think they care. Does Monsanto care about the Farmers, clearly not given the recent changes in seed liability that the company has announced?

Women Leadership. I’m all for women taking a lead in society, but this are nothing to do with empowering women it's all about destroying men. They need to do this to break up the family, and force society to look towards the state. This is classic Karl Marx folks.

These crooks and criminals don’t give a damn about women they will just use them for a wider agenda. If they really cared about women they wouldn’t be inoculating them en masse with the HPV jab. The practice of promoting Injectable and Implanted contraceptives so that they can control estrogen / progestogen levels via some robotic chip and thus population, this is utterly repugnant. And whilst on the subject you are aware girls aren’t you that in future these same criminals plan to artificially inseminate you by selective breeding just as they did with “Dolly the Sheep” at Edinburgh University around 20 years ago. Get these criminals into Jail.

The Final section on “Bioneers” is the Youth section. The youth of tomorrow are very important, which is why they put so much emphasis on schools and education. However as previously mentioned it's about “reframing and dumbing down and a control mechanism”. In the UK this is government policy what they call realignment and "reconceptualisation" of education.

To cap it all we have a short video from a 16 year old boy talking about “global warming”. He knows precisely zero about this subject, rather he bumbles out parrot fashion everyting he has been told at his school desk.

I won’t go into the proposed carbon trading scheme, suffice to say they always promote carbon trading because the real people behind Bioneers are Wall street bankers.

Now I’m getting angry, you need to watch for these scam initiatives and “global awakenings” promoted by bankers because “RED FLAG” they always have a “carbon trading scheme”. Why is this? They do this because “be advised” Gordon Brown the former British prime minister and his colleague Ed Balls a cabinet minister in Brown's government set up at Number 10 Downing Street, London in the year 2000 a 78 trillion USD (no typo) carbon bond trading scheme from funds that they stole with the aid of the globalist bankers from the US teachers pension fund. Carbon trading is a scam; it’s got nothing to do with climate change and everything to do with the wealth of bankers.

Paul Hawken is not the man you think he is. You would be better dealing with George Bush Jnr than Paul Hawken, the reason being with Bush you know what you get with Hawkin you don’t know what you are letting yourself in for.

Bioneers is without question a front for the UN Globalist elite who purport to care for the planet, when in reality it’s the same organisation who are destroying the planet and mankind as fast as they can. Agenda 21 is a tool for the US and UK governments to enslave it's citizens. The developing nations just laugh at these daft proposals emanating from UN headquarters. They haven’t signed up with Agenda 21 and neither should we.

Under the circumstances I would strongly you ditch this mind control clap trap and concentrate on the reality of the current situation with you and your family. I would urge you again to read #85 which you won’t so I print it here in order to galvanise some “reality”

“Stop believing this garbage folks its the “New World Order” and be advised that the plan still exists as per the thread on the forum regarding the Georgia Guide Stones and your love affair with Charles who both confirm a plan to reduce the world population to 500 million and that doesn’t include you so for God Sake wake up and smell the coffee”.

This is reality. The “New World Order” is enemy number one. Until they are crushed and defeated, your long term life expectancy and that of your children is not guaranteed.

So earlier this evening following Zook’s post, I sent him a PM asking for his guidance, and help in responding to you all as you posted blindly how marvelous this man was.

I don’t normally do this, however on this occasion I have copied and pasted Zooks PM back to me namely;

Hi Fred,

"I have too many friends on Avalon to abandon them in their time of need".

So now you know who your friends are, so if you don’t like what I say at least do yourself a favour and check out what Zook said about Paul Hawken.

Then Greybeard from Inversnegie posted up that Bill had started this thread. I didn’t believe this at first, as I was certain Bill would not promote any agenda of the New World Order. However on checking this it was indeed Bill who started the thread. I would seem Bill got the information from Ninja Nun who was probably mistaken with the real agenda of Hawkin.

Obviously if documents and videos arrive at the site they are inspected for clarity. I do however believe Bill is very tired after months of running around after Charles and so the video was posted.

It matters not who posted it the facts remain its deception and swindling from the New World Order and why would Bill want to agree with that?

[xeon]

Good morning Good Avalonians, the Earth says hello!


--------
Dear Friends:
Every Avalon member must watch this video. It was brought to my attention this morning by the beautiful Ninja Nun (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?12082-A-message-from-a-Nun-about-the-Charles-material). :)
It astonished me, and brought tears to my eyes. It is of the utmost importance. Spread it far and wide.
This is truly what we are doing at Project Avalon. We are at the very heart of this. A New Civilization, a new way of being on Planet Earth, is being born.




Blessed Unrest, by Paul Hawken
How the Largest Movement in the World Came into Being
and Why No One Saw It Coming

[...]


Please take time to watch this video again. There's a reason why Hawken's presentation feels like a revival gathering. It is. Hawken is the quintessential corporate insider ... now being promoted by the nefarious establishment as one of the head horsemen of its Green Cavalry, a charging brigade of indoctrinated soldiers bent on delivering Agenda 21 and the such, through subtle pressures and carefully measured tactics. An army and an arm of the NWO that wants to put Tesla technology in a half-nelson hold and pursue less establishment-threatening; less efficient; less regular (sunshine on a cloudy day??) but commercially-viable (i.e. taxable) alternative energies like solar energy. Here's some bio on Paul Hawken: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Hawken

Here's more proof of his establishment credentials.:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/marc-gunther/paul-hawkens-winning-inve_b_462413.html

beginExcerpt
Why haven't they done better? Some of us have long believed that the problem with conventional SRI funds is that their definition of "socially responsible" is not nearly as rigorous as it could or should be.

Paul Hawken has been vocal in his critique of the SRI establishment, and since 2005 he has put his money where his mouth is. In a partnership with Baldwin Brothers, a Massachusetts-based investment firm, Hawken has overseen the Highwater Global Fund, a fund for qualified investors (i.e., the rich) that invests in companies "that have a clear sense of current global trends and future societal needs." His results have been impressive, to say the least.

Since inception in the fall of 2005, Highwater is up by a total of 52.55%. During the three years ended in December (the same period cited above), Highwater is up by a total of 19.75%. This is, in part, because Hawken and the other fund managers are very picky about what stocks they hold. More than 90% of the Fortune 500 fail their screens.

If you don't know about Paul Hawken, you should. He's a path-breaking thinker and influential writer whose books include The Ecology of Commere (1993), Natural Capitalism (1999, with Amory and Hunter Lovins) and Blessed Unrest (2007). He's an entrepreneur who founded Erewhon and Smith & Hawken, and an advisor who has worked with to Wal-Mart and Ford. These days, he's focused on a startup in stealth mode called OneSun, a a solar energy company based on green chemistry and biomimcry.

I had the great pleasure of visiting with Hawken last week at his office in Sausalito, CA. Mostly, we talked solar. OneSun's chief science officer is John Warner, a pioneer of green chemistry, a longtime researcher at Polaroid and author (with Paul Anastas, now EPA's top researcher) of Green Chemistry: Theory and Practice. OneSun has hired more than a dozen PhD.'s and aims to produce "solar beneath the cost of nuclear and coal," Hawken says, but he's not ready to divulge much more yet.
end



Forget that he was an advisor to Wal-mart and Ford, two of the more egregious establishment corporations; forget that he co-authored Green Chemistry with Paul Anastas (an Environmental Protection Agency muppet) ... listen to what Hawken himself says and measure it against what your own research and intuition tells you.

One, Hawken guesses that the number of such groups (he lists a few hundred groups maybe, and then uses graphical artistry to mask the supposed others, leaving their existence entirely to our imagination) ... ranges anywhere from one million to two million. Hello? Is this science ... or is this a number pulled out of the ether like a a rabbit from a magician's hat?

Two, how does Hawken know that this alleged one million (or two) are all with unified purpose, e.g. part of the same movement? The only way this is possible - leave alone the absurdity of the proposition of a million heads thinking as one - is if all such groups had been directed to a unified purpose ... and this implies a central command structure. The obvious candidates for such a command structure are the (Ford/Rockefeller/Rothschild) foundations and institutes. History shows that such foundations/institutes finance the NGOs and such through direct and indirect foundational grants.

Three, the biggest red flag is Hawken's lack of forthrightness ... Tesla technology is now the barometer of genuine energy reform. You promote it, then you are genuinely of the grass-roots revolution. But if you continue to promote phony energy dreams that go nowhere fast (e.g. wind, solar, water, fossil fuels), then you are part of the existing problem and the old paradigm of power in the pyramidal design.

Please use discernment. Thank you.

Humble opinions all around.

:smow::typing:

ps: Yes, even nuns can get it wrong from time to time. Bless her heart for trying to find the truth all the same.

Hit the nail on the head. If you REALLY want change, demand for the Tesla tech to be released worldwide. Otherwise it is a phony change.

Since I was a kid, I have been hearing all these Big Oil companies talk about solar and wind energy for the longest time, and NOTHING has ever changed, it just got worse. It is all part of "greenwashing" - That is the term they use nowadays.

As these "safe" energy systems do not threaten them, naturally, they will promote it and people everywhere will buy into it.

[Anchor]

What was shown, was a video that had as its core message that many small groups around the world want basically the same thing.

The messages may have ridden the wave to us on the back of something nasty - but so freaking what?

Humankind knows what to do.

The immune system is in action

What is wrong with those core messages?

You can try to discredit the messenger - it matters not to me - maybe he deserves it.

Fact is it was a very good video for the moment and I don't think there is anything suspicious about it.

The links and the background references that Fred259 alludes to are probably all correct.

Changes nothing about this core message

Humankind knows what to do - and that knowledge is already in us - it cannot be told to us by NWO people - or new paradigm people

There is a spiritual revolution in progress and video's like this just prove it. This thread is proof of it.

Telsa tech - yeah - good stuff - not even a subject of the Video, but it is probably something that would help.

John..

[Icecold]

Fred259:


Seriously folks, this is definitely part of the UN Global Government Agenda. Don’t get sucked into all this.

Yes I thought the same thing. I love the way wolves disguise themselves as sheep.

[Anchor]

Seriously folks, this is definitely part of the UN Global Government Agenda. Don’t get sucked into all this.

Yes I thought the same thing. I love the way wolves disguise themselves a sheep.

Do think there was nothing of value in that Video?

[Icecold]

No I don't think there was anything of value in the video.

Nothing that I do not think of myself. Stop and think. Its a trap for those that want to believe in a process that is automated,
natural organic.....evolutionary. You don't have to do a thing really. It will take care of itself....like the washing machine.

Sit back and watch it all happen.

The real message is....don't interfere, stay passive, let it all happen.

Fred hit the nail on the head.

The existing NGOs WILL LOVE IT.

May even be a job for THE CATHOLIC CHURCH TO OVERSEE THE PROCESS.

I know this tune. :music::lalala:

[Fred259]

What was shown, was a video that had as its core message that many small groups around the world want basically the same thing.

The messages may have ridden the wave to us on the back of something nasty - but so freaking what?

Humankind knows what to do.

The immune system is in action

What is wrong with those core messages?

You can try to discredit the messenger - it matters not to me - maybe he deserves it.

Fact is it was a very good video for the moment and I don't think there is anything suspicious about it.

The links and the background references that Fred259 alludes to are probably all correct.

Changes nothing about this core message

Humankind knows what to do - and that knowledge is already in us - it cannot be told to us by NWO people - or new paradigm people

There is a spiritual revolution in progress and video's like this just prove it. This thread is proof of it.

Telsa tech - yeah - good stuff - not even a subject of the Video, but it is probably something that would help.

John..
John I agree with you 100%.

All the problems in the world can be solved, and will be solved.

However, always watch out for the Zionists about.

They don’t care about you or me, I say again for the avoidance of doubt the figure they have in mind does not include you or me, as confirmed by the UN, the Georgia Guide Stones and Charles.

Charles was suggesting that 6 billion would need to be slaughtered around January and one of your fellow countrymen suggested that enough land existed in Australia to house the words population and that each family would have ¼ acre. So what’s the problem?

[xeon]

What was shown, was a video that had as its core message that many small groups around the world want basically the same thing.

The messages may have ridden the wave to us on the back of something nasty - but so freaking what?

Humankind knows what to do.

The immune system is in action

What is wrong with those core messages?

You can try to discredit the messenger - it matters not to me - maybe he deserves it.

Fact is it was a very good video for the moment and I don't think there is anything suspicious about it.

The links and the background references that Fred259 alludes to are probably all correct.

Changes nothing about this core message

Humankind knows what to do - and that knowledge is already in us - it cannot be told to us by NWO people - or new paradigm people

There is a spiritual revolution in progress and video's like this just prove it. This thread is proof of it.

Telsa tech - yeah - good stuff - not even a subject of the Video, but it is probably something that would help.

John..

However, always watch out for the Zionists about.

They don’t care about you or me, I say again for the avoidance of doubt the figure they have in mind does not include you or me, as confirmed by the UN, the Georgia Guide Stones and Charles.



And don't forget the tale of the Pied Piper of Hamelin..... ;)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pied_Piper_of_Hamelin

We can guess who loves playing this role.

[Anchor]

Its a trap for those that want to believe in a process that is automated,
natural organic.....evolutionary. You don't have to do a thing really. It will take care of itself....like the washing machine.

Sit back and watch it all happen.

The real message is....don't interfere, stay passive, let it all happen.

Ok, I now see that I failed to apprehend one of the points being made here.

That is, there is a real risk that this video may seed the idea that everything is being taken care of for you and so you don't need to do anything. Sit back and let it happen. I see that point. Fair comments all round then because this is of course a load of bollocks. We do have to do a lot. We have to be the change.

However, those little groups didnt start by letting other people solve their problems. The little groups in this group of "little groups", got started because they needed to manifest change in a practical and real way and they did not sit back and they did the work.

In my opinion the value in the video is the making of two points:

1) There are rather more groups than you may first have thought - and this can be inspiring to others who want to do similar (which I think was why it was given to Bills attention)

2) The purpose of those groups is oddly aligned with the best interests of the planet and humankind together. Which to me is a spiritually based phenomenon.

You can ignore the: NWO/Agenda 21/Author promotion/Nice book for sale/It was put here by a nun - just the video itself and the core message I think was worth seeing.

The fact that such excellent background research has also been done and laid out clearly for peoples consideration here on this thread is also IMO of immense value.

Thanks to everyone

John..

PS: Inaction is a weapon of mass-destruction.... - another tune I keep hearing...

[Nervana]

I am new to this community and the more I read everyday, I get a sense of hope that we can change the world. I feel that we have the power to do so and should not fear the future. I used to think, what can "I" do, but have to throw that notion out the window. I becomes we, which becomes all. We are one, we have universal love and understanding in our hearts and souls. This video also brings tears to my eyes, because it shows that humanity and kindness will prevail. Thank you for sharing Bill. Mother Earth will take care of her children if we listen to her.

[sygh]

For any one interested in finding out how this involvement translates:

I worked in this field since 1983, I was with an NGO, (non-governmental organization)
and in May 1998 attended an annual planery session of the OAS (Organization of American States), in San Jose, Costa Rica.
with all the Ministers of Foreign Affairs of the American hemisphere.

Different NGOs had been invited to present their agendas. See more about it here:
http://www.icnl.org/knowledge/ngolawmonitor/oas.htm

There were different meeting rooms provided and people could select which area they wanted to participate in.

Environment, domestic violence, poverty, fight against corruption, drug trafficking or Racism.
I had joined in with the anti-Racism group, having lived in Barbados for many years I felt I understood the underlying issues of racism pretty well.
Btw, I am female, white, and German by birth.
When I entered the room there were 80 mostly male Indigenous and African Americans present, from Argentina, Uruguay, all the way to Canada. Even some Amazonian tribal people. black slaves had been brought even to South America, something that isn't widely known.

And when it came to brainstorming I was surprised that no one made the one contribution that I considered to be the most important in restoring ethnic groups their self esteem: their need to be taught primary education with LOCAL stories of their OWN history.
What I felt was needed was to change the school curriculum in primary school education from colonialist white history to stories that matched the actual culture of the ethnic people involved.
The fact that no one even voiced such a need proved to me the need for bringing this idea forward.


The majority of Costa Ricans on the Atlantic coast are origianlly from Jamaica who went there to build a railroad 100 years ago.
Just as black Barbadians had built the Panama canal. Huge loss of life then, may I add.

I have more stories about this kind of work, but this letter is long enough.

How wonderful it is to meet you, ulli!

[sygh]

No I don't think there was anything of value in the video.

Nothing that I do not think of myself. Stop and think. Its a trap for those that want to believe in a process that is automated,
natural organic.....evolutionary. You don't have to do a thing really. It will take care of itself....like the washing machine.

Sit back and watch it all happen.

The real message is....don't interfere, stay passive, let it all happen.

Fred hit the nail on the head.

The existing NGOs WILL LOVE IT.

May even be a job for THE CATHOLIC CHURCH TO OVERSEE THE PROCESS.

I know this tune. :music::lalala:

Thank you for informing us about Agenda 21. If Paul Hawken is jumping on the front of the band wagon and smoozing, if he is promoting Agenda 21, then he better start reconsidering his position because he's got a whole different audience to deal with, the likes of which he's never seen before. Even the armys will turn around, and there will be no place on this earth to hide, not even China.

Adendum: I don't know of Paul Hawken, and I'm going to have to read more about Agenda 21. My initial reaction to the information is a bit of rage. But rage won't work. So...

What I want is a balance in this world for all living creatures on the planet. I want biodiversity. I want people to become responsible for, and of themselves. I want them to start working together to change the state of the way it currently is. By trying to have it all, we are killing ourselves. Solar power, as it is currently configured, isn't the answer, not by the power station, not in the amount of water used, not by the individual. I want the cameras taken off the streets. I don't need to be watched 24/7. What a waste of time. The stupid must stop.

Now, I still donated to this site. And I hope others follow. I am POOR!! But I know I'd rather invest in Project Avalon because I can see a glimmer of something on the horizon. I'm glad Zook is here, and very thankful for the Agenda 21 alert.

Greybeard, you are so correct, what is, is. What will be, will be... and we are both.

Much Love,

Robin

[sandy]

Thanks Constance,

He definitely brings joy to the ear and resonance to the heart................:)

[Nolan34]

Thank you Kimberley. What a positive message. Be the change you wish to see. So simple and yet so brilliant.

[sandy]

Hi Everyone,

From this video I checked out the web site and many of the maps blue spots here in Canada. Many of the grass roots organizations are funded by governments and/or corporations and have been in existence for numerous years. I have worked for similar grass root organizations also and find that although the mission is valid the agenda's for funding creates collusion and more often than not deception and corruption.

For the most part if governments and/or corporations provide any type of funding for worthy causes and movements they have an agenda of their own and again one has to realize what are the benefits they and in the end the organization gains. Many grass root organizations disintegrate when they realize that their agenda has become about maintaining status quo and funding thus the mission has becomes a hypocrisy, Staff turn over is great, those they serve become less and less and so the story goes until they are no longer in existence. Sad but true what Bollinger is saying and also sad but true what Greybeard is saying.................................It can be heavy to feel alone and to think one stands alone in the end to really effect any change in ones life!

Maybe Bill, as independent as he is, just felt a need for some fuel for his personal tank so to speak, and feeling the 'essence' of what this video pro-ported gave him the energy boost he needed.

[Anchor]

Hi Everyone,

From this video I checked out the web site and many of the maps blue spots here in Canada. Many of the grass roots organizations are funded by governments and/or corporations and have been in existence for numerous years. I have worked for similar grass root organizations also and find that although the mission is valid the agenda's for funding creates collusion and more often than not deception and corruption.

For the most part if governments and/or corporations provide any type of funding for worthy causes and movements they have an agenda of their own and again one has to realize what are the benefits they and in the end the organization gains. Many grass root organizations disintegrate when they realize that their agenda has become about maintaining status quo and funding thus the mission has becomes a hypocrisy, Staff turn over is great, those they serve become less and less and so the story goes until they are no longer in existence. Sad but true what Bollinger is saying and also sad but true what Greybeard is saying.................................It can be heavy to feel alone and to think one stands alone in the end to really effect any change in ones life!

Maybe Bill, as independent as he is, just felt a need for some fuel for his personal tank so to speak, and feeling the 'essence' of what this video pro-ported gave him the energy boost he needed.

Is this not more true with the larger groups?

The smaller groups ought to be able to maintain a more honest focus - no?

[Ruby L.]

After watching the clip, I didn't feel like, "Oh, okay, the world's in good hands now; I can sit back and munch on some grapes while everyone else finishes up business." In fact, it was quite the opposite. It refuelled my hopes in humanity and the human potential, of which I am part of, too.

This clip, also, didn't make me want to jump into Camp Hawken, singing "Kumbaya", throwing petals at his feet after I watched it.

It simply reminded me that power is, indeed, in diversity-- especially when all the different parts work together with a unified purpose and intention for the good and wellbeing of the world.

Our home.

As for whether the hundreds of organisations that Hawken listed on the screen all truly exist or not… I can certainly google and check them all out, but it doesn't detract from my own personal knowledge and awareness of the many other grassroots groups that do exist out there.

These groups are around, locally and globally, big and small ones -- all quietly and tirelessly working away in the background, in their own capacity and way, to co-create light and point it towards the darkness.

These groups are little lanterns that, when remembered together as one, have the force of the sun. What a motivating thought!

And yes, perhaps Hawken's personal and larger intentions may be sinister... I don't know... but in that clip, I certainly didn't focus on him as being anyone's saviour. I did, though, sit back and listen to what he was saying, and the essence of his message resonated with me.

Besides, I can pick flowers from many gardens, and this particular clip was just one of them.

Hawkens words, here, only reminded me of what I-- and many here-- already know, but that reminder was incredibly welcomed. In fact, it has re-inspired.

In trying times, sometimes all that is needed is a little nudge to remind us of our own power and capabilities to help effect a larger change. Sometimes, that's easy to forget with all the negative sludge bubbling around.

The more people feel encouraged and empowered, the larger and faster the change.
How's that point in the clip so wrong?

[Hervé]

I posted the followings in “A message from a nun” thread:

“OMG! When did it rain on this desertified planet!? All these beautiful mushrooms popping up all over the place… look at that!

Some talk of comet dust filling up the skies, but it seems more like a wave of spiritual mist is enveloping… Her.

« Et le monde sera beau… je l’affirme et je signe! »

Than you dear Sister and thank you Bill!”


Why? Simply because the video clip carries a concept with it. That concept could be summarized as: “We are doing something about it.”

All these groups that popped out like mushrooms while about everyone was looking somewhere else, didn’t wait to take action and didn’t take for granted that ”It’s all taken care of, etc.” in the same fashion PA started and is sustained by all of us. Most of them bootstrapped themselves up while others were seeded by NWO in an attempt to thwart the growth of these groups.

However the concept is the driving force. And that’s what, I think, Bill and NinjaNun perceived from that video along with the staggering growing number of these groups driven by that same concept.

With John, I would like to emphasize the video cloturing statement:

"]"Humankind knows what to DO." [/SIZE]I.e., it doesn’t say “think” or “wait and see,” etc.

That’s my opinion, humbly submitted.

Amzer Zo

[LindyLou22]

bill, i would really like to know what evidence do you have of this happening? i mean re the "rapidly growing grassroots responsibilities".. where has this reflected so far? thanks

Lightblue, I would suggest Madison, Wisconsin, as an American example.


http://i1120.photobucket.com/albums/l491/lindylou222/wisconsin-protest-bigcrowd.jpg

http://i1120.photobucket.com/albums/l491/lindylou222/wisconsin-protests_window53.jpg

[TigerLilly]

Thank you Zook, Fred and Icecold for opening our eyes. The PTB are the masters of manipulation and we keep falling into their traps.
We really need people like you on this forum, please don't give up on us!

When I looked at the groups around me they were no more than small recycling clubs. We all need to be very aware of Agenda 21, I was resently sent the attached video which some may find useful ( sorry about the adverts) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYD_BNRLE64

However looking on the positive side the idea of lots of little plans working towards a common goal is a very good one.
I love Inanna's global flash mob idea on her new thread. We need more creative practical ideas like that.

[greybeard]

Respectfully
People get confused about what true spirituality is.
Is is quite hard headed,
It get things done.
The good Samaritan.

When people first move to heart they get all gooey lovey the whole world a friend ----- emotionalism.
That is a great start but primary school of the heart.
Going back to Gandhi he was a realist he was prepared to starve to death for what he believed in, but was non violent.
He knew that if India got freedom by violence it would continue to live in violence.
While violence obciously hapens there it is a more peaceful place than some.

So it is a big mistake to think that spiritual people sit cross legged chanting away in perpetual bliss and ignorance doing nothing achieving nothing.

Im busy doing what I do look at signature.
Its a balance.
Many small things help towards world peace and prosperity, removal of fear.
It starts with ONE ====YOU
It is done by ONE====YOU
it is achieved by ONE =====YOU
Chris

[777]

I smell revolution in the air.

That video gave me happy tears Bill, thank you. I'll say it again for the work you do Bill and the millions like you/us:

Thank You

[Newlyn]

Respectfully
People get confused about what true spirituality is.
Is is quite hard headed,
It get things done.
The good Samaritan.

When people first move to heart they get all gooey lovey the whole world a friend ----- emotionalism.
That is a great start but primary school of the heart.
Going back to Gandhi he was a realist he was prepared to starve to death for what he believed in, but was non violent.
He knew that if India got freedom by violence it would continue to live in violence.
While violence obciously hapens there it is a more peaceful place than some.

So it is a big mistake to think that spiritual people sit cross legged chanting away in perpetual bliss and ignorance doing nothing achieving nothing.

Im busy doing what I do look at signature.
Its a balance.
Many small things help towards world peace and prosperity, removal of fear.
It starts with ONE ====YOU
It is done by ONE====YOU
it is achieved by ONE =====YOU
Chris

Thanks Chris. Thanks for you being here.

The opinions expressed here makes me tired, a personal sign that I will take no fight. See everything as You. Everything that comes in your life is you.

I'm not afraid of shadows just because it could be ghosts and monsters there. But some people are against almost everything just because it is new. Because it is a movement, because it want's to change the world.

Well, how are we then supposed to get any change if we just sit by our computers, shaking with fear? NEW WORLD ORDER, ARGH..!

Just a feeling really. But we are all walking our own path, so I wish everyone the best for them. Then we meet up after all this and laugh.

/albin

[Icecold]

But some people are against almost everything just because it is new. Because it is a movement, because it want's to change the world.

One needs to recognise what is new from what is a new shade of old.

An organisation based on the biological sciences.

A biological theory of hope relying on the theory of evolution.

A NWO entity supporting and legitimising NGOs and thousands of organisations left undisclosed.

Telling the masses exactly the message they want to hear.

Don't worry be happy its all under control.

It sure is.

[Newlyn]

But some people are against almost everything just because it is new. Because it is a movement, because it want's to change the world.

One needs to recognise what is new from what is a new shade of old.

Agreed, to distinguish spirits is a most desirable gift.

[TimelessDimensions]

The growing popularity of The Zeitgeist Movement (TZM) is also another interesting phenomena that shows the global consciousness is awakening

[lightblue]

.
lindylou22
Lightblue, I would suggest Madison, Wisconsin, as an American example.

hi lindylou22

the first pics shows a rally of some sort..the second shows a rally too..what else do you think i could conclude?

maybe read fred's post (#101 )..

best wishes :thank_you2: l

p.s. .i personally don't open anonymous senders's mail, even if the signture says "well wishing nun"..i always think they are there to sell you something you don't need.. i already have my copy of bible, don't need another, thank you...

.

[lightblue]

chris
So it is a big mistake to think that spiritual people sit cross legged chanting away in perpetual bliss and ignorance doing nothing achieving nothing.


chris please, can you point out the difference between a state of true bliss and a state of hypnotic numbness..
.
.

[Wiremu2011]

That was great video indeed. Given the abundance of negativity we are so seduced and addicted to (lets be honest here ..well perhaps some), we really need a breath of fresh air of genuine hope moving forward. This video really did it for me and suddenly the skies look blue again. Thanks to whoever posted it. I AM most grateful :cool:

[Fred259]

I think part of the problem is that we in the English speaking West seem to think it’s our position to tell the rest of the world how we should all behave. This is the fundamental problem with Agenda 21 in developing nations. They quite rightly say, the west crated all these “so called problems” so why should the developing nations be part of the problem they didn’t create.

In reality much of what is contained within Agenda 21 is already going on at great pace within developing nations. They are doing these things for themselves. In Africa for example great strides have been made looking at alternative forms of transport, food production, irrigation, power generation and a multitude of others.

Here is an example of a project in Mzuzu Malawi, where local people are making solar panels in carpentry workshops and powering up homes along with the local school and clinic. They don’t need Agenda 21 to achieve this. Look how happy these people are. Notice how the women are singing, they sing from dawn till dusk! Why is this? Because they are happy, and content with life. Listen carefully to the words of the father and the tremendous hope he has for his son.



http://vimeo.com/4227888

When Charles was on the forum, these are the people he proposed to slaughter, and all you Charles followers were up for it as well. Are you insane? I ask that you reflect on that. These are my brothers and sisters, for I was born in Mzuzu, the town in the video. No, I am not a Blackman I am Scottish, my father was a civil engineer in Mzuzu and I was born there. My “single post” on the Charles thread was a question relating to the proposed slaughter of these people. No reply was forthcoming and so I had no further involvement with him or his buffoonery thereafter.

A new pluralistic world order is developing quite nicely, out with the confines of the United Nation and the US and British government. They are doing just great folks. The reason for this is because they righty understand that the US and British power elite are the most corrupt and frankly nasty people on the planet.

Sandy in her post #115 highlights the problem that all these so called NGO or Non governmental organisations are anything but. Ask yourself how do they pay the bills, were do they generate sales turnover, they don’t they are all funded by corrupt governments departments who seek to bring about change in the world. The change is not what you think it is. Is the change I wonder the same promised by Barry Soetoro at that glittering occasion in Grant Park Chicago?

This is what Sandy wrote;

“ Many grass root organizations disintegrate when they realize that their agenda has become about maintaining status quo and funding, thus the mission has becomes a hypocrisy”.

The lady is quite right.

As a general rule it’s best to ignore anything that comes out of London, Washington and the UN in New York and especially so from the mouth of that dreadful criminal women Mrs Clinton.

Newlyn, your post #123. I actually find your post quite disturbing, please prove me wrong. I see you are aged 21, yet you see and think the same way as Greybeard who is 65. I am 52. Someone of your age shouldn’t be thinking like us oldies, you should be up and away, burning and getting on with life, finding a partner and building a life together.

You talk about changing the world, well Chris and I and just a few others on the forum can remember Jane Fonda and the John Lennon crowd in the 1960’s who also wanted to change the world. The reality is the world is getting along just fine. The reason why you are wanting to change the world is because you listen and believe all the misinformation (or BS if you understand me) that comes out of London and Washington.

Don’t, the world is doing great, nation states are developing and reducing poverty by themselves, look at India for example. It’s the same the world over. Don’t worry about climate change, the climate is fine, as I posted last night the criminals’ create the problem with fake climate change and then give you the solution including Agenda 21 which is an abomination, and above all carbon trading, a financial scam of humongous proportion.

Don’t worry about the New World Order, get on with your life, just take care not to be led, by people who don’t have your best interests at heart.

[greybeard]

chris
So it is a big mistake to think that spiritual people sit cross legged chanting away in perpetual bliss and ignorance doing nothing achieving nothing.


chris please, can you point out the difference between a state of true bliss and a state of hypnotic numbness..

my sense is that rather than addressing own fears, people tend to slide into a state of comfortable numbness while allowing the self appointed experts to lead?.
.

Thanks for the question Lightblue.
This just my opinion with some personal experience.
You can induce a state of bliss by spiritual technique but it is temporary and virtually no change in the person.
So person can get addicted to looking for a repeat experience, the seeker keeps seeking.
I met one who got fed up and stopped all spiritual techniques a few weeks later what he was looking for presented itself.
The state called enlightenment happened.

Real bliss arrives, a gift if you like from the Divine, it is not a manufactured state.
Thankfully I was never particularly good at meditating, so one day I said to God, "That kind of thing never happens to me", next day it did and it lasted two days.
Balance again, meditation brings peace of mind which is no small thing. Just be in the moment not expecting or seeking.
Fear can be surrendered to God, not pushed away, witnessed allowed to be, but you ask for help to remove the obstacles to peace of mind.

If every person here on Avalon just for one day, smiled at the check out operator, thanked them, lifted any person that they felt like lifting.
That would positively affect thousands.
It would also lift you.
You might do that allready, keep doing it.
I you dont, try it for size and see how you feel at the end of the day
If you feel good, then keep doing till it becomes a habit.

One heart.
Unity consciousness

[pyrangello]

I'm a biker and a businessman, the biker organization i'm in is 50,000 strong and is now spreading thru-out the world www.startouring.org , predominately we ride the big yamaha cruisers but anybody can ride in Star with any bike. This organization is 10 years old and I've always said you can feel the energy at any Star events and it's powerful positive energy. Collectively thru chapter contributions on a yearly basis we are donating $ 175,000 dollars to Feed The Children for donations of food to the hungry.

Even when the tsnami hit in Banda ache many don't realize the amount of money that was contributed by the american people to that tragedy. This was money donated by americans personally of their dollars after it was taxed by our government. That total came to 2 billion dollars and that was just from in this country.

We are moving forward, just remember to keep thinking forward, it is happening and as we look at the chaos daily happening, political, wars, revolt , think of our consciousness as being one as in the movie braveheart where they had the wooden wagon trying to ram the castle doors hitting it over and over again until more men collectively added to the pushing of the cart until we pushed it open and broke thru. THATS WHAT IS HAPPENING TO US NOW AND THERE IS MORE OF US THEN THEM AND WE CAN CHANGE THE WORLD FOR THE BETTER! BELIEVE IT

[TigerLilly]

Hello Fred259

I agree with most of what you have said in you post 130 above, except for one thing,


When Charles was on the forum, these are the people he proposed to slaughter, and all you Charles followers were up for it as well. Are you insane?

I'm sorry but in my opinion you are quite wrong.

Now I have always been quite pro Charles and followed all the threads as far as possible. My understanding from his interview and the things he later posted was that this slaughter was the plan of the 33, but that since his illness and meeting Bill, he had changed sides and he was here to help stop this. So quite the opposite of what you said above. I would never follow anyone who supported a proposed slaughter, nor in my opinon would anyone on the forum.

I am sorry to go off topic, but I felt that it was important.

TigerLilly

[kevlor]

thank you bill, thank you ninja nun, BEAUTIFUL. i am not ashamed to say i cried.

to see a large audience respond, as my heart did, told me, i am on the right track.

there has always been --- leaders ----- and always been --- followers --- i am a follower that knows what he wants. that is to say i am a leader of myself. i am hopeing the leaders outsmart themselves this time around ... kev

[sandy]

Hi Everyone,

From this video I checked out the web site and many of the maps blue spots here in Canada. Many of the grass roots organizations are funded by governments and/or corporations and have been in existence for numerous years. I have worked for similar grass root organizations also and find that although the mission is valid the agenda's for funding creates collusion and more often than not deception and corruption.

For the most part if governments and/or corporations provide any type of funding for worthy causes and movements they have an agenda of their own and again one has to realize what are the benefits they and in the end the organization gains. Many grass root organizations disintegrate when they realize that their agenda has become about maintaining status quo and funding thus the mission has becomes a hypocrisy, Staff turn over is great, those they serve become less and less and so the story goes until they are no longer in existence. Sad but true what Bollinger is saying and also sad but true what Greybeard is saying.................................It can be heavy to feel alone and to think one stands alone in the end to really effect any change in ones life!

Maybe Bill, as independent as he is, just felt a need for some fuel for his personal tank so to speak, and feeling the 'essence' of what this video pro-ported gave him the energy boost he needed.

Is this not more true with the larger groups?

The smaller groups ought to be able to maintain a more honest focus - no?

Hi John.

In my experience of working with large and small non.profits organizations there level of funding creates the level of hypocrisy in their mission. Therefore the smaller organizations can be more transparent with their funding concerns but in the end it mostly turns out to be about appeasing those who are providing the funding...............................and in most cases it is not so much about overall good works it about proving those good works with Stats and numbers and mounds of documentation.........................bureaucrat B.S. for the most part....Stats are wanted to tout the numbers, successes because of their benevolent offerings................IMHO often Stats are for advertising Pats on the Backs for the Funders........................not those who work in the trenches or those who with a little compassion and help manage to get themselves out of the trenches... :(

[gripreaper]

To capture the essence of the "Feeling" that is acquiescing through the field of consciousness, the great Sophia which has been severed and sequestered from consciousness, this song makes a simple sound inherent in all mankind, the passion to unite and bring forth our humanity and a unified species in concert with the "all that is" the divine matrix of cristos and sophia, the marriage of matter with soul with only the heart of intention and not the old patriarchal paradigms of war and divisiveness. Although this song is called "Talking about a Revolution" it is a revolution of the SPIRIT of man.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKYWOwWAguk&feature=related

Come on, crank up the volume on that technological device of yours!

[araucaria]

This is a reply I made to Luke on the Zeitgeist thread, but I thought it was here and this is where I wanted to post it, so please excuse the self-quote:


I will strongly advise to carefully think before you post something like "it's ok to be idealist"

Lenin was an idealist


.

Wow ! (not disagreeing)
Lenin was a materia-list, an enemy of idea-lism.
Some say he was a Rothschild agent, i.e. a material-ist, an enemy of ideal-ism.

Lenin was a dialectical materialist. Dialectics is a process whereby you take two contraries, Thesis and Antithesis, and resolve them into a Synthesis. For example, taking materialism and idealism, this suggests a third non-conflicting term: materialist idealism or maybe idealist materialism. Same difference. Here’s how it works.

Take three materialists in a room together. One is touching what seems to be a leg, another what seems to be a tail, the third what seems to be a bit of both (a trunk). They argue because they are not talking about the same experience and get bogged down in the details. Take three idealists. They are not too interested in the details but quarrel over whether there are several alien species or one hybrid monster in the room.

Then one materialist has an idea – or maybe it’s an idealist checking the raw data. He says we have three identical DNA samples: it’s just an elephant!

The moral of the tale (or the tail of the moral) is that idealism and materialism on their own are both divisive. When you synthesize the two, you have no enemies.

PS. How did the elephant get into the room? Easy: like a pear in a brandy bottle, it grew there!
How do you get it out? Answer, you don’t, you just walk out of the room; like the pear you leave in the brandy bottle when you serve the (pear-flavoured) brandy. The pear is recycled as… glass. Alimentary my dear Watson!

[Newlyn]

I think part of the problem is that we in the English speaking West seem to think it’s our position to tell the rest of the world how we should all behave. This is the fundamental problem with Agenda 21 in developing nations. They quite rightly say, the west crated all these “so called problems” so why should the developing nations be part of the problem they didn’t create.

In reality much of what is contained within Agenda 21 is already going on at great pace within developing nations. They are doing these things for themselves. In Africa for example great strides have been made looking at alternative forms of transport, food production, irrigation, power generation and a multitude of others.

Here is an example of a project in Mzuzu Malawi, where local people are making solar panels in carpentry workshops and powering up homes along with the local school and clinic. They don’t need Agenda 21 to achieve this. Look how happy these people are. Notice how the women are singing, they sing from dawn till dusk! Why is this? Because they are happy, and content with life. Listen carefully to the words of the father and the tremendous hope he has for his son.



http://vimeo.com/4227888

When Charles was on the forum, these are the people he proposed to slaughter, and all you Charles followers were up for it as well. Are you insane? I ask that you reflect on that. These are my brothers and sisters, for I was born in Mzuzu, the town in the video. No, I am not a Blackman I am Scottish, my father was a civil engineer in Mzuzu and I was born there. My “single post” on the Charles thread was a question relating to the proposed slaughter of these people. No reply was forthcoming and so I had no further involvement with him or his buffoonery thereafter.

A new pluralistic world order is developing quite nicely, out with the confines of the United Nation and the US and British government. They are doing just great folks. The reason for this is because they righty understand that the US and British power elite are the most corrupt and frankly nasty people on the planet.

Sandy in her post #115 highlights the problem that all these so called NGO or Non governmental organisations are anything but. Ask yourself how do they pay the bills, were do they generate sales turnover, they don’t they are all funded by corrupt governments departments who seek to bring about change in the world. The change is not what you think it is. Is the change I wonder the same promised by Barry Soetoro at that glittering occasion in Grant Park Chicago?

This is what Sandy wrote;

“ Many grass root organizations disintegrate when they realize that their agenda has become about maintaining status quo and funding, thus the mission has becomes a hypocrisy”.

The lady is quite right.

As a general rule it’s best to ignore anything that comes out of London, Washington and the UN in New York and especially so from the mouth of that dreadful criminal women Mrs Clinton.

Newlyn, your post #123. I actually find your post quite disturbing, please prove me wrong. I see you are aged 21, yet you see and think the same way as Greybeard who is 65. I am 52. Someone of your age shouldn’t be thinking like us oldies, you should be up and away, burning and getting on with life, finding a partner and building a life together.

You talk about changing the world, well Chris and I and just a few others on the forum can remember Jane Fonda and the John Lennon crowd in the 1960’s who also wanted to change the world. The reality is the world is getting along just fine. The reason why you are wanting to change the world is because you listen and believe all the misinformation (or BS if you understand me) that comes out of London and Washington.

Don’t, the world is doing great, nation states are developing and reducing poverty by themselves, look at India for example. It’s the same the world over. Don’t worry about climate change, the climate is fine, as I posted last night the criminals’ create the problem with fake climate change and then give you the solution including Agenda 21 which is an abomination, and above all carbon trading, a financial scam of humongous proportion.

Don’t worry about the New World Order, get on with your life, just take care not to be led, by people who don’t have your best interests at heart.

Haha great that I have someone here who tells me how I should and should not think :) It disturbes you that I find that a spiritual life makes more sense, because I am young?

Let me tell you something. I have been travelling around in europe for some time now, and I was afraid to tell my age. I was afraid of telling my age, because I have been confronted with your attitude before. People thought I was older, and was interested in my words and my experiences, but when they new I was as young their reactions where suddenly different. I was then 20. Now it is different, I am proud of my age and who I am. Because I have seen a bit of what I am able to do, dispite my age :) I am very thankful for my life, and the things that I have done and the things that happened to me.

Fred, to point out someones younger age is an easy an comfortable way to no longer listen to what this person has to say, yes? This person is just 20, should get a life, should get a wife. But of course, I highly respect your age. I think that a common respect is a good first step to positive change.

This makes me a bit sad, because you really don't know anything about me, as I have stated before. This you should really remember. I had some tough days now, with some hard defeats, and I am vulnerable. But I can understand your point of view, but please try to understand me.

My view of life clearly differs from you, and that we think different is nothing bad. Everyone and everything in this world compensates eachother. My point of view is that there is a different way of living. I call it "love", even if this word can mean so much. But to me love is a state of being, that is far higher than anything the rulers of this world ever can create. The highest order, that makes the lower ones crumble in comparison.

And I talk from my own discoveries.

Best wishes!

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(EDIT: Fred259: "you should be up and away, burning and getting on with life" ..

I am! And it feels absolutely great. Actually everyone should. Are you?

I try to only speak for myself when I write.)

[ulli]

p.s. .i personally don't open anonymous senders's mail, even if the signture says "well wishing nun"..i always think they are there to sell you something you don't need.. i already have my copy of bible, don't need another, thank you

Agreed. Your home is your santuary. When you need something you leave the nest and fly around looking for the worms with which to feed your nearest and dearest.
Or use the web. Whichever.

[doubleejones]

this is what the earth needs, people of all kinds waking up to it's needs.

[Bob_2011]

Does anybody know how well his book sold, :car::peep:

[westhill]

Hi Fred...
I warned of the same thing. I scratched just below the surface and found links to Agenda 21 (communitarianism), There was an insightful radio program on Truth Brigade (American Freedom Radio) hosted by Christie. Her guest was Niki Raapana who has 20 years digging and butting heads. It opened my eyes.
bye for now... westhill

[Summer]

Thanks Bill, it's really worthful. "Blessed unrest", wherever we are, we are not alone on planet earth. Be united, our dream will become true in future.

[Lifebringer]

I am about to view this Bill. You welcomed me here and I still am shakey on how I can pose a question to the forum, of if I'm even allowed to. The question is really important to me as it concerns burial, or cremation. Is it acceptable with all that you or others have found out? My husband and I both plan to be cremated and scattered with partial in a grave. Just throwing it out there, but I don't want to be on the "wrong side of it."

Any suggestions on how to post it, or if I am allowed to post on forum?

Thanks.

[Lifebringer]

Oh, yeah! That's what I'm talking about a worldwide human movement for peace, properity and solution, by God's guidance and will.
Awaken children of the Lord. The dry bones have the wind at their back now, in the quest for truth, justice and equality.

Some souls' are so corrupted by greed, they don't see it because peace is free and a God given right.
WE demand a peaceful end to the " hidden facts, practices of deceit and lies" of goverment, media, and religion.

May God bless us universal beings in our quest for the love of God and our neighbors everywhere.

[willow]

Ah hell yeah you're getting a 'thanks' for this post Bill! :cool::biggrin: POWER TO THE PEOPLE!! :OD

[NinJin]

Thanks for the post Bill, it's good to see a rallying of the troops (so to speak).
The news (what you can believe) of America's current state seems to be getting worse & worse. Wisconsin, now Texas talk of secsession & Emergengy Manager (read police state)
it looks like we are in deed going to need a revolution to stop the madness & start living in a better world. I see some others have brought up some practical thoughts though - where to start
I remember not too many years ago there was talk that if we physically got enough people together & marched to Area 51 that they can't stop all of us & we would finally find out everything.
Is it time yet, do we have enough people ready to actually get together physically & march ? I'm in, all the way & since we know there's life after death then I don't mind taking a bullet for anyone of you if it comes to that (not that I'm volunteering to actually be shot, just saying if it comes to it I got you at least once) ..
Trying to be patient here but I'm ready for action & looong time ready to stick it to the man - What say Ye ? ok deep breaths, count to 10, peace ..love..

[Indigo Expressions]

Thanks Bill. :)

[lightseeker]

Thank you Bill for bringing this video to the forum. I found it inspirational and filled with hope and joy. Sometimes I've felt very alone, not anymore.
Lightseeker

[dbeck]

Thank you for sharing this Bill, and like many others have said especially in more recent times, Watch out world, we are no longer blind to the truth, we WILL make a difference!

[ktlight]

Thank you Bill for the post.

Just a few comments on some of what followed.

Has Tolle ever acknowledged Jiddu Krishnamurti, which is where a great deal of his insights came from? I have never come across any by him. I have read some of his books. The Rolling Stones acknowledged the Blues artists/sources of their material.
Krishnamurti also stated that there are no gurus and, indeed, would have said to anyone putting him on a pedestal, 'you didn't get it'. He had some great debates with Professor David Bohm about humanity, the state of the human mind. Some of these are on Youtube.

To the one who said nothing happens all of a sudden. If you look back on history, at least from before the first agricultural set up in Sumeria, through all of the remarkable changes on the planet, they ALL happened all of a sudden.

The only thing that is consistent on this planet is wars, and this has to stop. I feel when we in the future look back at our time in history, it will be called 'The Age of Insanity'.

I have been to bioneers and watched Janine Beynus talk about biomimicry and, even if it is a NWO funded entity, I cannot argue with her ideas.

[phillia]

Thank you for this beautiful video. It's inspiring to see the grass roots of change toward a greater conscious awareness. It struck me the range of ages in the audience and the attention given to the speaker. It's an obvious universal uprising of spirit. Wonderful!

[Bill Ryan]

Yes, even nuns can get it wrong from time to time. Bless her heart for trying to find the truth all the same.

A covertly hostile put-down of the lowest kind.

Even Zook can get it wrong from time to time. Bless his heart for trying to find the truth all the same.

See how it sounds and feels?



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Dear Friends:

Every Avalon member must watch this video. It was brought to my attention this morning by the beautiful Ninja Nun (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?12082-A-message-from-a-Nun-about-the-Charles-material). :)

It astonished me, and brought tears to my eyes. It is of the utmost importance. Spread it far and wide.

This is truly what we are doing at Project Avalon. We are at the very heart of this. A New Civilization, a new way of being on Planet Earth, is being born.[INDENT][INDENT][INDENT][I]
Blessed Unrest, by Paul Hawken
How the Largest Movement in the World Came into Being
and Why No One Saw It Coming


These organisations come and go. They have been around for a long time. They are probably larger in number now than they ever were but they are too small and isolated to have any overall effect on the general well-being of our planet and its people. At best, I rate this sort of thing as another evangelical “self-help” therapy session for a small fee.

Given that we still have 2 billion people living beneath the most basic needs for human existence and another billion on the poverty line, given that we are still using oil to push around metal boxes and provide the vast majority of our energy needs, given that 10% still own 90% of everything; where is the net effect? You could have a million organisations doing a million things but it won’t make even a dent in the social and material injustice unless those in power decide or change to think of others instead of just themselves.

Human nature is against us and no amount of preaching love, peace and all those glowing but useless sentiments will ever get us off our knees. Action from those who sustain this mess for their own greedy ends is what is needed; not words from powerless well-meaning people. Unless and until that happens, things will just carry on the same. There is no messiah, no saviour, no ascension, and no rapture.

Every time I hear the words “we are powerful”, or “we are gods and we’ve just forgotten it” or “we create our own reality”, I feel like saying: are you listening to yourself? How long are we going to remain this powerful and this godly but still fail to change anything? It’s all words; just words that are meant to stir up emotion and soften the senses.

We all know what we yearn for and people always find different ways of telling us that it’s coming. Sometimes, even they themselves believe in it and that makes the delivery of the message even more effective. It’s what we want to hear and we’ll pay money to hear it. But alas, behind it I find no substance or reality.

Dear Friend:

You are a cynic.

I know you do not intend to be, and that you honestly and sincerely express your state of mind. I appreciate that you are doing your best to communicate with integrity.

But consider the negative effect that your posts have on others. I've not read all your posts (just some) - but 100% of those I have read leave me feeling that I rather wish I'd not read them at all. They bring people down.

One has to be realistic, and to honestly appraise the circumstances around us. But if you cannot feel that things are changing, then you might benefit from some honest-to-god, in-depth self-examination and spiritual development. Your sensors aren't working as they should be.

I too have always stated that there's no easy way out. A huge amount of work awaits us all. We have to fix this mess we've made of this beautiful planet. We have to face what we've all done - and it may take several generations.

We have to do this ourselves, as well: no ETs will rescue us. And there's no physical or hyperdimensional ascension out of here.

But if I did not have genuine optimism, and a genuine sense that we're in with a great chance, I'd never have come to this planet. And neither would literally millions of others. We didn't come here to fail.

Those millions are not all employed by PR agencies funded by the CIA (or whatever model scratches one's cynical itch). Many of those millions are included in the organizations Hawken cites (and Project Avalon will probably be somewhere on that long list), and may of those millions feel as I do, and probably over half the members here do as well.

We are winning this game. Things are changing. We are not on the same timeline as we were even a few short years ago. And the future is ours to create and claim.

[Zook]

Yes, even nuns can get it wrong from time to time. Bless her heart for trying to find the truth all the same.
A covertly hostile put-down of the lowest kind.
Even Zook can get it wrong from time to time. Bless his heart for trying to find the truth all the same.
See how it sounds and feels?
[...]


That is your own characterization of it. If you go back to my original post - sans the emotion - you'll note Bill, that "sister" thanked me. She correctly pegged mine as a genuine attempt to shed light on Hawken's background. If she did not take offense, why are you?

FTR, Hawken is what his past betrays him to be ... we all are. Even those of us that venture into the future - with new directions - are still burdened with the explanation of the past. Hawken is clearly part of the past power architecture; that he attempts to prop up old energy technologies and steers clear of available Tesla technologies ... betrays Hawken to be a shill of the old energy game and its nefarious players.

So you see, Bill ... I didn't get it wrong about Hawken. I exposed him by doing a bit of research. OTOH, you brought him into AV2 because you were brought to tears by the video (I'm paraphrasing your own words). If you are a decent man, you will give me some credit for my research and exposition of Hawken ... and take some blame on yourself for indirectly supporting Agenda 21 (e.g. by supporting Hawken).


:smow::typing:

[Bill Ryan]

Yes, even nuns can get it wrong from time to time. Bless her heart for trying to find the truth all the same.
A covertly hostile put-down of the lowest kind.
Even Zook can get it wrong from time to time. Bless his heart for trying to find the truth all the same.
See how it sounds and feels?
[...]


That is your own characterization of it. If you go back to my original post - sans the emotion - you'll note Bill, that "sister" thanked me. She correctly pegged mine as a genuine attempt to shed light on Hawken's background. If she did not take offense, why are you?

FTR, Hawken is what his past betrays him to be ... we all are. Even those of us that venture into the future - with new directions - are still burdened with the explanation of the past. Hawken is clearly part of the past power architecture; that he attempts to prop up old energy technologies and steers clear of available Tesla technologies ... betrays Hawken to be a shill of the old energy game and its nefarious players.

So you see, Bill ... I didn't get it wrong about Hawken. I exposed him by doing a bit of research. OTOH, you brought him into AV2 because you were brought to tears by the video (I'm paraphrasing your own words). If you are a decent man, you will give me some credit for my research and exposition of Hawken ... and take some blame on yourself for indirectly supporting Agenda 21 (e.g. by supporting Hawken).

:smow::typing:

It makes no difference who thanked you. "sister" is not the Ninja Nun! (Did you think she was?)

My post was not about Hawken. It was about the phenomenon, which is real. Tears came to my eyes, but not because of Hawken: because of the acknowledgement and because of the grassroots feedback... that we're winning this game.

If you're not aware of this, you've not been paying attention. See my reply to Bollinger above.

The many millions of people who've incarnated here to turn this thing around have nothing to do with Hawken or Agenda 21 - whatever their motivations (good or bad). They will do their thing anyway, and will just continue to link up with one another.

I've met thousands of them, and so may you have - if you recognized them for who they are.

The Nun read this thread, of course. She wrote to me six days ago:

I have no problem with words like social justice, but it seems to be a red flag for some.

It's not about politics. Politics never did anything except re-arrange the status quo.

It's about consciousness, awareness, and individual responsibility that generates a determination to make a difference. That's what's changing.

[Rozzy]

1 Thessalonians 5:3 Now whenever they may be saying "Peace and security," then extermination is standing by them unawares, even as a pang over the pregnant, and they may by no means escape.

[Zook]

That is your own characterization of it. If you go back to my original post - sans the emotion - you'll note Bill, that "sister" thanked me. She correctly pegged mine as a genuine attempt to shed light on Hawken's background. If she did not take offense, why are you?
FTR, Hawken is what his past betrays him to be ... we all are. Even those of us that venture into the future - with new directions - are still burdened with the explanation of the past. Hawken is clearly part of the past power architecture; that he attempts to prop up old energy technologies and steers clear of available Tesla technologies ... betrays Hawken to be a shill of the old energy game and its nefarious players.
So you see, Bill ... I didn't get it wrong about Hawken. I exposed him by doing a bit of research. OTOH, you brought him into AV2 because you were brought to tears by the video (I'm paraphrasing your own words). If you are a decent man, you will give me some credit for my research and exposition of Hawken ... and take some blame on yourself for indirectly supporting Agenda 21 (e.g. by supporting Hawken).
:smow::typing:

It makes no difference who thanked you. "sister" is not the Ninja Nun! (Did you think she was?)


Yes. It was a natural assumption. I would make the same mistake over again (e.g. like Ground Hog Day) ... because I only discovered sister on AV2 (to the best of my recollection) after having first discovered Ninja Nun. I naturally assumed that sister and Ninja Nun were one and the same. You say they aren't. Fair enough. I stand corrected. FWIW, yes, it would have made a huge difference had Ninja Nun thanked me, for you tried to frame my post as an attack on the Ninja Nun with the following statement of yours: "A covertly hostile put-down of the lowest kind."

Never had I entertained anything negative about the Ninja Nun. So it comes as a surprise to me why you would even think that. My target is exclusively Hawken; and he is a legitimate target given the facts of his corporate agenda. He is not grassroots; and anyone who would argue that is clearly uninformed.



My post was not about Hawken. It was about the phenomenon, which is real. Tears came to my eyes, but not because of Hawken: because of the acknowledgement and because of the grassroots feedback... that we're winning this game.


How can the guy be phony ... and his phenomenon be real? There is absolutely nothing in the video that is not of Hawken's design. If anything, it is more reasonably argued that we're losing the game, and precisely because false flag grassroots organization is being peddled about as if it were the real McCoy with scant little resistance. FTR, not only is there no evidence of a genuine grassroots movement in Hawken's video ... but anyone who has done the research can quickly point to a few red flags in his presentation, not least of which being Hawken's shifting of the energy discussion away from free energy. If virtuallyFree Tesla technology exists (and there is ample proof of its existence); then who but a corporate hack will continue to argue in favor of lesser energy forms (e.g. solar, wind, water, chemical, etc.)? Free energy is minimally taxable, if at all. All the lesser forms are maximally taxable. Moreover, the lesser energy forms burden the masses and enrich the elites. Hawken - a fund manager!! - also suffers from conflict of interest because he has a stake in solar energy: http://www.greenbiz.com/blog/2010/02/11/paul-hawkens-winning-investment-strategy

beginExcerpt
These days, he's focused on a startup in stealth mode called OneSun, a a solar energy company based on green chemistry and biomimicry.
end


Additional red flags: he coauthored a book with an EPA bigwig (Paul Anastas) (http://www.amazon.com/Green-Chemistry-Practice-Paul-Anastas/dp/0198506988); he worked as an advisor to WalMart and Ford; he is promoted heavily in mainstream media; he worked as a successful fund manager during the period of colossal excesses in fund management (here, if you believe honest fund management had any traction during the dark period of insider trading, Michael Milliken, and a pseudocapitalist system run amok with Wall Street greed, golden parachutes, and little or no regulation; then there are chunks of the Brooklyn bridge that are still available).

A while ago, some musicians got together and made a video for an entirely different, and I would hope, entirely humanitarian reason. I think the title of that music video could also apply here. Bill. Tears are not enough. If tears are all that is needed, then many kinds (kind and unkind) have delivered the bucket ... from the lachrymal glands of Jimmy Swaggart ... to the heart-flushing pipes of Martin Luther King ... to the bugler blowing Taps for a last time, all too many times ... to the fox-clever mind of Paul Hawken.



If you're not aware of this, you've not been paying attention. See my reply to Bollinger above.
The many millions of people who've incarnated here to turn this thing around have nothing to do with Hawken or Agenda 21 - whatever their motivations (good or bad). They will do their thing anyway, and will just continue to link up with one another.
I've met thousands of them, and so may you have - if you recognized them for who they are.


I'm aware of the exact opposite, namely, that false flag grassroots feedback ... is not grassroots at all (and consequently, not feedback at all). Moreover, I state my case - not with platitudes and gratitude (or ingratitude) - but with cool hard research. So I respectfully suggest that it is you who needs to pay a bit more attention, e.g. so you don't keep bringing people here who might do damage to the integrity of AV2. And you need to stop attacking those of us who are actually trying to protect the integrity of AV2 by exposing the agents of the NWO.



The Nun read this thread, of course. She wrote to me six days ago:
I have no problem with words like social justice, but it seems to be a red flag for some.


Are you implying that I have a problem with words like "social justice"? If they are merely words ... heck ya! I'm interested in social justice. Not the lexicon of social justice; but the result. The lexicon is unproven; the result is proof. The Ninja Nun's perspective is that of a silent dissident in an organization that has run amok. Kudos for her. But if she thinks that my post was anything other than about exposing a wolf in sheep's clothing (e.g. Hawken) ... then I suggest she read my post again (and I would request the same of you). Positive energy is not gained by sweeping the facts under the rug and moving furniture over it. That's false energy. Fake energy has no curative powers; and it eventually ends up draining everybody. If you want an example of this ... look no further than Charles.




It's not about politics. Politics never did anything except re-arrange the status quo.


Research and exposition come under the jurisdiction of science ... not politics.



It's about consciousness, awareness, and individual responsibility that generates a determination to make a difference. That's what's changing.

Assertions, like the above, are best housed under the jurisdiction of faith.


Here's your reply to Bollinger:


Dear Friend:

You are a cynic.
I know you do not intend to be, and that you honestly and sincerely express your state of mind. I appreciate that you are doing your best to communicate with integrity.
But consider the negative effect that your posts have on others. I've not read all your posts (just some) - but 100% of those I have read leave me feeling that I rather wish I'd not read them at all. They bring people down.
One has to be realistic, and to honestly appraise the circumstances around us. But if you cannot feel that things are changing, then you might benefit from some honest-to-god, in-depth self-examination and spiritual development. Your sensors aren't working as they should be.

The cynic's compass points to the random destruction of things. The skeptic's compass points to the temporary deconstruction of things so that reconstruction can be achieved properly. IMHO, Bollinger appears more the skeptic than the cynic. If a skeptic associates with negative energy, then it's likely because there exists a negative source that needs to be opposed. Left unopposed, this negative source can become quite toxic. To wit, the skeptic is one of our primary lines of defense. Without the skeptic, we end up with blind faith. Blind faith is best understood with an example. Jonestown. The negative source was Jim Jones. The toxicity was initially a madman's words ... and finally, spiked koolaid.

Negative energy in the duty of truths (e.g. to counter lies) ... is a positive force.
Positive energy in the duty of lies (e.g. either blind allegiance for expedience and convenience, or to counter truths) ... is a negative force.

In the narrative of those two truisms, Bill, it would seem that Bollinger's sensors are working quite well ... and yours are not. For he is working for the positive good by exposing a negative source. You, by contrast, are settling for the false energy emitted by a false flag grassroots movement. If you continue to endorse the feelgood phony energy of the video - even after my fairly argued, dispassionate, and documented exposition of the man (Hawken) and the agenda (an elitist agenda serenaded by the Pied Piper of Hawken) ... then you do so at the expense of your own integrity. Humble opinions all around.


:smow::typing:

ps: You do owe me an apology for your personal innuendo against my character when you framed a part of my original post as: "A covertly hostile put-down of the lowest kind." Such a parsing is so remote to my way of thinking that my jaw dropped when I first read it. Anyone with a clear mind and conscience can see that I was attacking Paul Hawken and Hawken's integrity and never the Ninja Nun. Why you would think so is a question for you to sort out in your own mind.

[giovonni]

From Bill

"It's about consciousness, awareness, and individual responsibility that generates a determination to make a difference. That's what's changing." :clap2:

[Taurean]

Chill out guys.

There is an insidious disease still manifesting in our midst.

Discernment is our last line of defense.

[LindyLou22]

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lindylou22
Lightblue, I would suggest Madison, Wisconsin, as an American example.

hi lindylou22

the first pics shows a rally of some sort..the second shows a rally too..what else do you think i could conclude?

maybe read fred's post (#101 )..

best wishes :thank_you2: l

p.s. .i personally don't open anonymous senders's mail, even if the signture says "well wishing nun"..i always think they are there to sell you something you don't need.. i already have my copy of bible, don't need another, thank you...

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Hi Lightblue,

You had asked specifically about grassroots awakenings and ordinary people taking responsibility. Well, you had addressed the question to Bill, and I horned in, but I think my point is valid. Maybe by now you've heard of things that are going on in Madison with people challenging our governor and the legislature. This is not as much a planned rally as just a lot of people who know that something's really wrong and who need to express it somehow. If you haven't heard of this, I hope you take the time to find out what has been going on. It's also happening in other places like Ohio and Michigan. The pictures are the answer to your request for evidence:


bill, i would really like to know what evidence do you have of this happening? i mean re the "rapidly growing grassroots responsibilities".. where has this reflected so far? thanks

I can tell you that many people I know have taken part in these protests. The governor's attempted power grab has awakened a lot of people who used to roll their eyes at me for talking politics. Some of these people are union members who have voted republican, and they're now hearing Rush Limbaugh referring to themselves as parasites, bottom feeders, and welfare recipients.

I'm not understanding your reference to anonymous PMs. I hope you aren't saying that Bill shouldn't trust people who email him.

[Bill Ryan]

--------

This remarkable wake-up call (from an unnamed CIA whistleblower) belongs on this thread.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=mgj0ge6Iwu0



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgj0ge6Iwu0

[majapahit]

I am sorry to say that I am of the same opinion of what comes across from Zook's comment and research

Agenda 21
Communitarianism
Bioneers

Paul Hawken is a bad little boy :flame:
.. and a wicked orator
.. so much so that you, Bill, fell for this Hollywood level of neuro linguistic theatre

.. I do the same when I watch 'Gone with the Wind'
.. I cry a lot, that Vivien Leigh, her pretty face breaks my heart

.. of course, after the movie, I hate myself for crying like a girl concerning a redneck lullaby of hell
.. and then of course, I do exactly the same thing, the next time I see this movie

of course you don't have to make apologies to Zook

.. because when you really love each other
.. you never have to say your sorry
(remember that movie? .. came from the same hell :cool:)

N.B.
- of course developing solar panels for little villages in dark Africa is good
- arranging Micro Credits that accrue 35-75% interest from these 'willing purchasers', the villagers, of these 'now, an entrepreneur style development model' you see promoted worldwide by NGO's, 'we're reaching out with credit to these wonderful women' - is pure Evil

[majapahit]

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This remarkable wake-up call (from an unnamed CIA whistleblower) belongs on this thread.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=mgj0ge6Iwu0



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgj0ge6Iwu0

"finding the money for all our problems is easy" .. exactly

the real problem is,
.. for instance
that even a learned historian like Webster Griffin Tarpley still makes suggestions like
'The Egyptians should consider the China option, and throw the IMF out of their country'

Maurice Strong is in China
.. has been there for many decades, since the Iraq Oil scandal
.. he is/was the #1 NWO man who ran the United Nations in New York like a whore house
.. he 'connects' the China top dogs to USA style banking & the creation of private fortunes, Harvard reserves many positions for their (more than 1) kids in the Economics department

"surprise!" .. and a very bad indication of our present situation

the CIA is being manipulated, per also the present Lybia situation, to 'arrange' for a confrontation between Russia/China against 'the West', per 'decades of unrest', 'perpetual warfare', & 'war is the only panacea for a contracting economy' (Wallstreet)

typically, we're not winning, 'they' are

personally, I think we will not 'loose' (is that winning?), with quite a heap of corpses
.. because History has a mind it's own, and we won't be obliterated ..
.. because of the infighting, greed, pure evil and final inevitable mistakes this will cause within 'the enemy'

but that's a lot more remote viewing ..
than rationale
:cool:

[sangstar1]

I am grateful to be partaking of such a human movement.

[cuteaquarian]

This is beautiful. A silent revolution. Surely this can bind humanity together for good.

Gave me shivers.

Thanks [:

[McJigg]

Great video, from 2007 to boot!

[Kosmic Syntropy]

I cannot thank you enough for sharing this video and for all that you are doing Bill! Thank you! Namaste!

~ K ~

[Star]

Dear Bill,

I am a newbie here and I loved this video and shared it with those I knew would benefit. Thanks for this wonderful site and forum and all your devoted, selfless work to help us wake up! I often feel alone and so Project Avalon came along so that I could add my miracles if needed or listen to my brothers/sisters stories and gain new insights and perspectives.

Namaste,
Star

[Fred Steeves]

Be wary of people like that guy preaching "Social Justice" Star. There's more to that nicely worded catch phrase than meets the eye.


Cheers,
Fred

[nickc2496]

Yeah this is amazing, i watched a 2 hour seminar about it, this is what its all about and its only going to build as more people wake up and feel the truth of what needs to be done :)

[prc]

Is this video available on youtube? If yes, is it possible to publish the address. I live on a country that does not provide good internet speed. It is 14:30h in the afternoon, I have openned this page on a Apple computer and on a PC machine and simply it does not load in any of the two machines. What a pitty!

[Midnight Rambler]

Is this video available on youtube? If yes, is it possible to publish the address. I live on a country that does not provide good internet speed. It is 14:30h in the afternoon, I have openned this page on a Apple computer and on a PC machine and simply it does not load in any of the two machines. What a pitty!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1fiubmOqH4&feature=player_embedded

[Titan Orion]

"Its mama, its the Earth, talking back, waking up!"

The joy in his voice when he said it put a smile on my face :)

[prc]

Dear Bill,

Sorry for my first comment here. I was unable to watch the video cause youtube was out of order for a couple of days in Brazil.
I really feel the need for a new type of economy. I welcome it. I just don't know how we will be able to give up entirely our current system and begin a new one. Medicine seems to be a luxury and is unavailable for the vast majority unless you have plenty of money to pay.Not sure how we will make the transition but I am more than happy for a complete shake up on our present way of life.

Kind Regards,
Paula

[Russ1959]

Here is the proof that indeed we are not alone!

Thank you!

[strevane]

Awesome, Thank You! That needs to be shown on network television.

I just got here and have already found so much heartening, enlightening, motivating stuff.

[salicemspiritus]

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[Anchor]

@salicemspiritus: Thanks for posting that Jim Carrey clip. I love it that people like him can stand up and tell this stuff in a funny way that can help people approach the ideas more easily

[Marianne]

If every person here on Avalon just for one day, smiled at the check out operator, thanked them, lifted any person that they felt like lifting.
That would positively affect thousands.
It would also lift you.
You might do that allready, keep doing it.
I you dont, try it for size and see how you feel at the end of the day
If you feel good, then keep doing till it becomes a habit.

One heart.
Unity consciousness

Chris, you are so right about this!
--Junebug

[gooty64]

I love this movement. How do we organize all the different groups and websites and organizations into Unity to reach the threshold of a critical mass. I am on board!

[Sgt-Bones]

Awesome message, gave me goosebumps

[elem]

hello to everyone!
can this video be translated in french please ?

Love,
Elem

[Kenn]

That list is it online in text format I would like to find a group in my area Central Oregon, United State's?

[Logan]

Sorry I'm a bit late in seeing this but the message is incredibly powerful. Peace and love and prosperity to each and every one of you!!

Thank you for sharing this Bill!!

[Biofieldz]

Definitely a must see video. WiserEarth.org is a significant way folks can move from talking to doing, to begin to walk their talk. Thanks Bill for sharing this important Paul Hawken video.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y98hDWUBv_k

[Turcurulin]

Very powerful! Ahhh,.. makes you feel good. Doesn't it?

[baddbob]

Thanks Turcurulin for replying to this thread I would have never saw it

[bridgetlilstar]

This is delicious and nourishing food for the soul...:), thanks Bill! and to think there's still a lot of dormant potentitial out in us, and out there..

[darren]

very uplifting video and a good reminder,on what is going on out there.

[ljwheat]

Thank you for this timely message, the universe is too small to hold the full meaning with only words.

Awesome post, we are awesome aren’t we. Namaste John

[4evrneo]

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Dear Friends:

Every Avalon member must watch this video. It was brought to my attention this morning by the beautiful Ninja Nun (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?12082-A-message-from-a-Nun-about-the-Charles-material). :)

It astonished me, and brought tears to my eyes. It is of the utmost importance. Spread it far and wide.

This is truly what we are doing at Project Avalon. We are at the very heart of this. A New Civilization, a new way of being on Planet Earth, is being born.[INDENT][INDENT][INDENT][I]
Blessed Unrest, by Paul Hawken
How the Largest Movement in the World Came into Being
and Why No One Saw It Coming



Thank you Bill,
I cant tell you how blessed I feel to be a part of this beautiful community, It inspires me each day to feel the most amazing compassion from PA !
(smiling all the time) !
Annette

[araucaria]

Thank you Annette for bumping this thread.

Bill, any news from Ninja Nun? It's been a long time.

[swoods_blue]

Well, surely I'll stick out like the crazy uncle every family has in saying this, but this video emerged on the last forum I was on and no one cared about some of the common buzz words this guy likes to throw around, they were too excited about what they wanted to hear.

Phrases like "social justice", "environmental justice" and "community organizers". They sound warm and fuzzy, but their roots for the most part are deep in the big Socialst movement. Pay attention to how often you hear these seemingly benign terms bandied about on the news, and who the people are saying them. Who are they and what do they REALLY represent? For starters look no further than Mr. Social Justice and Community Organizer himself, Barack Obama. Aka Barry soetoro.

I'm just saying be wary of the wolf in sheep's clothing...The false awakening...

Cheers,
Fred S.

Oh, just listen to yourself, Fred... Is everything a conspiracy? The whole point of this is that this movement is NOT a pyramidal structure, and it does NOT have a top-down heirarchy. Instead, it is regular people acting in their own communities to fight concentrations of power which seek to extract and dominate resources. Environmental justice is the result of regular people seeing illness, death and degradation in their own backyards, and wanting to stop it. Social justice is recognizing that the powerful often use the powerless for their own ends, and recognizing that without resistance, such exploitation will continue. "Big Socialism" as you call it may be a political movement subject to all the attendant traps, but the whole point of Avalon, Camelot and the alternative community is expanding the awareness that we are all on this journey together and that our fates are tied.

[Billy]

:bump:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y98hDWUBv_k

[araucaria]

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Dear Friends:

Every Avalon member must watch this video. It was brought to my attention this morning by the beautiful Ninja Nun (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?12082-A-message-from-a-Nun-about-the-Charles-material). :)

It astonished me, and brought tears to my eyes. It is of the utmost importance. Spread it far and wide.

This is truly what we are doing at Project Avalon. We are at the very heart of this. A New Civilization, a new way of being on Planet Earth, is being born.




Blessed Unrest, by Paul Hawken
How the Largest Movement in the World Came into Being
and Why No One Saw It Coming


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y98hDWUBv_k

Time to bump this thread again

[Billy]

Thank you. I think i will post this video in another thread also :whistle:

Ninja Nun. Where and how are you dear sister.

[RunningDeer]

:bump: ...........

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Dear Friends:

Every Avalon member must watch this video. It was brought to my attention this morning by the beautiful Ninja Nun (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?12082-A-message-from-a-Nun-about-the-Charles-material). :)

It astonished me, and brought tears to my eyes. It is of the utmost importance. Spread it far and wide.

This is truly what we are doing at Project Avalon. We are at the very heart of this. A New Civilization, a new way of being on Planet Earth, is being born.




Blessed Unrest, by Paul Hawken
How the Largest Movement in the World Came into Being
and Why No One Saw It Coming


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y98hDWUBv_k

[Izheheruvim]

Dear Bill,

First of all, thanks for what you're doing, namely getting people awakened to the reality they live in, however sad and even horrible certain aspects of it are. I believe that in order to have more awakened ones, you and those like you, i.e. Alex Jones, David Icke, Kevin Annet, etc., need to make a sort of "ultimate presentations" of what (and why) you believe to be the actual state of things. Such presentation should be as short (up to 30 minutes) and informative as possible. Of course, it should come with all major references, both to literature and media resources, as to where and how people can get details of what you would mention only briefly. So it would be like a "tree of knowledge", you depict only a trunk and major branches, and it would be really up to people if they want to explore thinner branches and leaves, and fruits. Probably such videos already exists, and in this case i'd like to have links to them, if possible. Anyway, good luck and my best wishes! Sincerely, Slava

[Bill Ryan]

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[Iristar]

Beautiful!! :flower:

[Foxy]

Geez, I hate for my first comment/contribution to be of a critical nature. I remember seeing this video when it first came out, and I too was moved by it then and was brought to tears. But after seeing it now, after all these years, I'm having second thoughts about it all. I'm just wondering, isn't this so called "Social Justice Movement" what gave rise to "Wokism", "Woke Universe", and "Critical Race Theory"? I'm just posing the question here, has this SJM been coopted/hijacked by the Soros of the world, as well as, the CCP, for various nefarious purposes, at least in the Western world? Aren't Antifa and BLM and the havoc they wreaked, all summer long of last year, around the Western world, an extension of this SJM?