My ET contact experiences (discussions/Q&A panel etc.)

[Newlyn]

Thank you again for this thread! It gives me so much to think and wonder about!

Waiting for more!

[IndigoStar]

Hi Onyx
Thank you so much for sharing all this useful information. I really hope Bill interviews you like many have suggested!

I'd like to know if you could share more information on the Progenitors and also if you have any info on the Rokat?

Also, if you have time I'd really appreciate you reading about my personal experience and giving me any feedback/comments you have. (Don't worry if you are too busy-no problem!)

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?20087-ET-contact-and-overcoming-psychological-after-effects

Thanks : )

[Hughe]

Hi Onyx,

Can you take on the Wingmaker stuff later on?

I don't remember I saw the interview transcripts on the website in the past. I just found it yesterday apparently and read through.
It is another claim that a super advanced alien species that created humans on Earth again.

Is it a gesture of the James who want to say the information of his/her web site is authentic?



Source - http://www.wingmakers.com/interviews.html
The interviews contained in this section of the WingMakers' website are transcripts taken from a series of interviews between Dr. Neruda (the defected ACIO scientist) and Sarah the journalist he contacted shortly after his defection. These interviews provide provocative insights into the Advance Contact Intelligence Organization (ACIO) - the secret government organization responsible for reverse-engineering acquired extraterrestrial technologies.

[Belle]

Hughe, check out this site http://www.wanttoknow.info/wingmakersorig/wingmakerschanges. It contains the original Wingmakers material as written before "James" entered the picture.

[Lefty Dave]

Hughe, check out this site http://www.wanttoknow.info/wingmakersorig/wingmakerschanges. It contains the original Wingmakers material as written before "James" entered the picture.

Thanks for pointing them in the direction of Fred Burks' site....many of us who were participating at WingMakers in 2000 saw the corruption of the site take place when James took credit for the creation...the original material is far more fascinating. blessings

[Hughe]

Belle,

Thanks alot.

Something had happened on the Wingmakers site.

I ended up this site. http://wingmakersfiles.110mb.com/

[carebear2]

Great Thread Onyx, thanks for sharing

What I'd like to know is, You say they mostly contact mixed heritage or pure blood people but when abductee's see hybrids they say they are pale skinned white/caucasion so why are there no reports of different colour hybrids? I asked this question to an abductee on another forum but he to only saw white hybrids too.

[DNA]

In reply: The Lemurs must be "the Feline race" that Jelaila Star talks about. The Felines are one of the two primary root races in our universe and ancestors of the human race.

Her site offers more details, including where their home planet is, a picture and description here: http://www.nibiruancouncil.com/html/felines.html

Have been through that website before. I don't like the information presented, because it goes almost entirely different than what I have been informed. And from what I have discussed with other people, I seem to not be the only one.

I'm sorry if this is disappointing, but I go by what I have been told and seen.

I am talking about a race of creatures with animal behavior when they were modified for the first time by the Progenitors, and thus creating the Lyran races.

By the time the same creature was brought on Mars and later also provolved by the Nibiruans, it already had reached some sentience.

To my understanding, there are no 'root races', and a lot of the things in Urantia are written symbolically, and need to be expanded upon, as all symbols are.

One of the Lyran races, were, in appearance, in the head at least, a bit felinoid. If they are referring to root races, maybe this is what they meant. If they deem that particular Lyran system the "cradle of life". The thing is, that planet produced three different races, one being humanoid, human-looking. The well known Lyrans many talk about today.

There is a lot to write, I will have to expand upon this so its more clear.

Wow,,,,I've made it six pages in before needing to comment on something. Your comments here are,,,pretty profound.

I've understood that there was some type of Annunaki genetic manipulation here on earth,,and I've come to terms with that likely reality,,,but,,,,your stating that there is a group of "Progenitors" who began life or introduced self awareness into the human species as far back as Lyra???

That really makes me sit and scratch my head.

Also,,,,as long as we are mentioning the Urantia, as far as the root races go, could there be some symbolism in terms of genetic tinkering in connection to racial annahalations and reintroductions?
I've heard it stated many times, that the Annunaki have killed mankind off five or six times before reintroducing a new version they didn't want old stock mixing with.
Could the root races be referring to a succesion of genetic models leading to our own?

[DNA]

Wow, excellent stuff Onyx.

In post #131 on page six, you described the reptillian presence in the galaxy rather well. It sounded spot on with what is written in Robert MorningSky's The Terra Papers (http://www.thelivingmoon.com/47john_lear/08PDF_Files/The_Terra_Papers_Parts_1_and_2.pdf) which is a free PDF read on the John Lear Paper's of Importance (http://www.thelivingmoon.com/47john_lear/menu.html#Papers) web page

[DNA]

Thank you Onyx.:clap2::victory: Thank You.

Post number #149 on the Nibiru,,,and the Annunaki was brilliant,,,just brilliant. Until reading this,,,I thought I knew what the Annunaki were all about,,,but now,,,I don't know,,,I've never read so much effortless detail about something so complex.

I am so enthralled by the hidden history of earth. The skeletons of six toed, six fingered extra set of teeth having giants are well known.
The subturanean hybrid cultures,,,I think that is what you were hinting at,,,that still exist. Amazing.
Do the subteranean hybrid cultures consider themselves related to surface humans? Are they on good terms with other pockets of subteranean cultures?

The 'Methuselahn' humans,,,,,,are these the creators, maintainers and the all seeing eye at the top of the pyramid of the Illuminati?

[phillipbbg]

Thanks OnyxKnight for the continuation of the thread, I like the idea that we could be sharing our earth with another race in the future , maybe we will find it easier to co-exist with ET's than with ourselves. Also it is illogical for us to think we are alone and comforting to know that we are not. I think what I am trying to say is it is inspiring to have more evolved life forms to aspire to.

Nice to break away and see the forest instead of focusing on the trees for a change, THANKS most enlightening if not confirming of what I have felt in my deepest memories for a long time.
What a fantastic time to be here, so many possibilities

[Positive Vibe Merchant]

Wow!

I got to pg 12 and will pick this up again tomorrow when I get to work.

Very intense conversations happening.

Thanks to Onyx and everyone else who has participated in this thread, this is fantastic!

PVM

[Rocky_Shorz]

hi Onyx,

Keep us updated...

[OnyxKnight]

Without rationalism, we are faith-bound followers. Without skepticism, we are organic robots.

My skepticism, Onyxknight, amounts to two nagging questions.

One, why would one extraterrestrial race choose you, a human unit of modest experience (age 22) and modest Earthly presence (here, I've taken the liberty to assume that you do not belong to any power structure; you may correct me if I am wrong in that assumption)?

Two A, what is the probability that more than one extraterrestrial race would contact the same inexperienced human unit (of modest Earthly presence) ... for purposes of contact? Two B, how steeply does this probability diminish with each successive ET race that allegedly makes contact with the aforementioned human unit? To wit, do all the ET races get together and vote on the specific human unit(s) to be targeted for contact, prior to making contact? If so, do you not see the absurdity of that proposition?

1) I was a random choice. I think I explained that quite far back, in detail. You have the method of choosing in regards to other criteria ETs might have as well. I have never asked all of them, but I think the rest probably trust the work done with previous visitations from "colleagues" of other species, so they have shown interest in attempting the same thing, but with the ongoing, already established, line of communication. As I am an isolated case, this stands to logic as there is would be no large-scale, "cultural contamination". I can reveal the sources of my information but the information presented would be relayed from a human subject, so in a way, the by-pass works.

Besides, if you read the thread closely, you would see that they didn't start when I turned 22, but when I was 9. There are contact cases where the subject are even younger. I don't think age matters a lot to them, but the consciousness inhabiting the body to be of a state hat is manageable to communicate with. At least that's what "goes" with those I contact. They are not interested in contacting people high up the socio-political ladder, as they have a bad past experiences with them. They do infiltrate government branches though, and try to influence certain things from the inside. Rarely do they get any positive results out of this.

2-A) You can see what I said about this under the 1) point.

2-B) I don't think its absurd at all. As much as many of them, humanoid or not, behave in similar ways to us, still, many, again, humanoid or not, behave exactly like one would expect aliens to behave - in a non-predictable, highly illogical manner. That's why we call them aliens right? By definition, they should act, and behave in abstract and enigmatic ways, using our own human model of behavior and thinking as a logical calculus. But no, things do not work that way. Most of these races that I have talked about, have a very strong, long lasting relations between each other. The level of trust is probably higher than anyone on Earth has had a chance to experience for another individual. If they cannot trust each other, or trust the decision-making nature of one particular "colleague" race of their association, than what's the point of building that trust to such a degree? And what would be the point of having an interstellar association in the first place too?

Putting this all aside, I understand perfectly why one would be skeptical about this. I didn't come out to the internet expecting everyone to accept what I have to say as the solid truth about ... anything really. If I did, then I would be doing this whole thing for all the wrong reasons. I have nothing against skepticism, but an objective approach to this is the optimal stand one can make in regards to these things, and later form conclusions.

Sad to see you have "retired" friend. Would have loved to see your response.


They resemble yellowish "ghostly" jellyfish and are quite "gaseous" looking them from a distance.

Theres a band I listen to, its called Radiohead, and on their album The King of Limbs, there is a picture on that album that looks kind of what you described. I know its off subject, but i just wanted to share that with you :). Very Interesting experience you've had, It was great to read. I would also like to know more on the humanoid ET's aircrafts, thanks.

Hi there, and thank you

I will try to draw as many of them as I can. As well as some of my sightings that I had. I will also take more notes on the craft looks (as well as any technology that I'm able to comprehend) from now on as several other people have expressed the same curiosity.

Regarding the picture, the color is similar, but the form/physiology is different. I will probably have to get busy with drawing some of the aliens as well, to better present them to you (not just as words).


This is an amazing account thus far Onyx. I just got through part one and I'm about to get into part 2. I have to say I'm quite jealous already, I'm sitting here bored out of my skull while your flying about in countless different spacecrafts meeting all these new life forms. Assuming this is all true (and somehow it resonates, with me at least), then your life is basically Star Wars lol (One of the Species you described even sounds a lot like Chewbacca :P). Anyway I'm going to get back to this story and will probably post again afterwords. In the meantime if you and your space friends ever fly over Orangeville feel free to stop by. We could rock some x-box, order a pizza.... fly to Saturn, no biggy ;). Cheers Man and thank you for giving me something to be interested in!

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Ok just finished. One thing I was wondering; you described the 'Danago' as having blue skin with an Elephant nose, tusks, pairs of arms and being large. Is this creature at all an inspiration for the Hindu god Ganesha?

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_w6Ne4ZV_v5c/TQd-1ul2YAI/AAAAAAAAAB4/03MYXstD8VE/s1600/lor34h%5B1%5D.jpg

Haha, no problem!

Saying its an average adventure-like experience would be an understatement. But I always wanted to first experience some adventures home (on this planet) before I get the chance to visit other places (even off-world).

I'd prefer that this happened with other humans accompanying me. I wish to share the reaction to the things I see, hear etc. There, I'm the only one walking around with my jaw to the floor. They know everything that I'm yet experiencing. Don't get me wrong, they are a great company, and nothing is ever boring with them. But you know, sometimes you do wish to share the experience with a fellow human.

Regarding the Chewbacca thing lol - Stargate, Star Wars and Star Trek are largely based on information and elements from the UFO community. The beings do resemble Chewbacca in height, and the furry covering, but the face is quite different. I think I will focus on some drawings more, as I don't think I have delivered the appearances of the ETs like I should have.

And about the Danago - Its possible that the Danago have presented themselves as such, not to frighten the population here. Their looks don't make them very ... approachable beings, if you know what I mean. The problem is, they haven't been here for over 30.000 years, so the image has to have been engraved in the Indian distant ancestors' culture to survive for such a long time.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UiiktuqlioE&NR=1

Very insightfull arguments !
Made my day.
Namasté

An interesting video. I will have to check his website to see if I get a good feeling about it.

But I would like to point something out that I noticed in the video here. He says we should not feel like we are the center of the universe, and that we are that much important and significant, so that so many alien races would visit us, because they need us etc. But towards the second part of the video he goes contrary to what he was saying in the first part of the video, when he says that we have a wonderful planet rich in resources that the alien cultures out there would need. Also, he implied that we are considered a resource for many of them as well. So, no matter how we beat the bush, it seems that we, and the planet we live on, ARE important enough for many alien cultures, and in a sense, we are - the "local center of the universe" :).


Hi Onyx
That was a very honest and deep experience that you conveyed and it touched me. Personally, I feel such an experience is always a burden. Even though it is difficult sometimes, do not react to closed minds. Just stay focussed on getting the work done.

Stay well and keep the faith. Knowledge cannot be undone.

Thank you for the kind words Ktlight. It is hard. In terms of not being able to share the experience in a different way with people other than words. Even those closed minds would feel different if they could hear what I heard, see what I have seen. The skeptics would definitely be singing a different tune.


............................................... my bad; SORRY!!

I don't understand this. Your bad, about what?

Did you had a previous post that was removed, and this is a responce to this, or is it a case of an edited post?


Weird, don't see why an admin would have done that.. Keep us informed if you get news.

Onyx, hope you're ok man; give us news !! At least that it's all good..

Done what?

I'm good, as always. Sorry it took so long to respond to this. What's with Bashi's post? You seem to have responded to it?


hello oxy,
what do you feel about the charles material

He might have some information correct, and if there is a need for it, I can underline which parts, if people think its necessary. Information material aside, I don't like his personality, and what I feel he did to the forum. There have always been disagreements between Avalon members here, but this came to a whole new level when he joined the picture, creating a division of a sort, between the membership here.

My take on the Charles is perfectly summed up here.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?15858-Re-Plea-to-Atticus


Dear OnyxKnight, i am only half way through your first post here but i have to get this down before i forget.

The valou sound very much to me like the extraterrestrial beings portrayed in james Camerons film The Abyss.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJyRF0Fzl9Y

It is an excellent film and from the producer of Avatar, aliens, and the terminator no less. I wonder if there is a connection and where he gets his information from.

Yes, James Cameron, I personally believe, is an enlightened man. 'Avatar' seems to be dead on about what's going on with the Altair system at present (he changed it to Alpha Centauri, and made the natives a lot more human-looking, so we could relate to them and their situation). The giveaway is this - there are no gas giants in the Alpha Centauri system, but there are few in Altair :), one of which is bluish in color and has several habitable moons that lie outside the radiation belt of the jovian. In addition to this, there are a couple of planets who also lie in the habitable zone of Altair, the third and fourth respectively. The Blue jovian is the fifth planet and lies in the outer edge of the habitable zone.

But back to your question - 'Abyss' seems to be inspired by the different aquatic colonies on the planets in Deneb. I recognize only one of those (don't know about the rest), and yes, the Valou have colonies there as well, but they haven't been pictured in the movie unfortunately. I'm guessing you refer to the ones that have a humanoid head, and a mantis-like body? If so, that's not the Valou. I will have to do a research, and also consult with my contacts to see if there is any connection to something real, other than what I have recognized.


POSTED BY ONYX -
«I will have to explain myself a bit better.

Non-physical entities, do exist. They sometimes appear in forms we would be pleased to see like the images of angels we have concocted throughout the ages.

When those entities claim they are St. Michael, and ask you to live your life A to Z according to the Bible, that's when I get the red alarm, as anyone else should.

So, I do believe you have these experiences, I am just explaining a deeper understanding of it, than simply labeling it an angelic visit, if you get what I mean.

The names and what they used to mean, is what its different. The words, or labels if you will. That was my point in the post. Not "debunking" experiences involving non-physical energy-based beings . »

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Are you talking about «The Urantia Book» ?


Quote from The Urantia Book -
«P24:7, 1:2.6 In theory you may think of God as the Creator, and he is the personal creator of Paradise and the central universe of perfection, but the universes of time and space are all created and organized by the Paradise corps of the Creator Sons. The Universal Father is not the personal creator of the local universe of Nebadon; the universe in which you live is the creation of his Son Michael. Though the Father does not personally create the evolutionary universes, he does control them in many of their universal relationships and in certain of their manifestations of physical, mindal, and spiritual energies. God the Father is the personal creator of the Paradise universe and, in association with the Eternal Son, the creator of all other personal universe Creators. »

Namasté

I will have to go through the entire book to see if there is some kind of symbolic meaning to the above quote, to something real and factual. These things can be very, very misleading in the way they are worded. But thanks for pointing that out, I will have to check and get back to you about it.



I wanted to make a lengthy post on the 2012 thing, but I'm not sure if I should. It may go against what many people believe.

I would never consider that a reason not to do it. If you have good information to add to the discussion, it would seem that it can only be a positive, in the long run at least. You may want to consider how to broach the subject though.

Speaking for myself, I would love to see an elaboration on this subject.

The 2012 doom and gloom is definitely not happening. The 2012 ascension thing is also not happening, I'm sorry. Not in 2012 at least. Ascension is in a sense, a spiritual evolution of consciousness, and its a very slow process, it needs more time to reach a substantial result. I don't see the logic in some people who claim they can achieve this in less than two years time.

This is a shorter explanation. But I'll go a bit further.

People talk about reaching other dimensions in 2012, when the clocks knocks midnight etc. What are these dimensions? They seem to be using mathematical representations of dimensions. Spatial dimensions. From what I'm able to gather from reading all those websites. The furthest some beings have went is the 5th mathematical dimension, in spatial terms. But they had to leave the physical form behind, as there have been problems with adjusting physically in 5 dimensions. I have problems imagining a phycial body of a being existing in the 4th dimension, let alone the fifth.. And we seem to skip one and go directly to the fifth one lol.

I think its one of the disinformation that keeps reoccurring times and times again. Starting from where we are now - a three dimensional space, yes - that's true. But is the ascension connected with this at all? No it is not. The number 3 is used misleadingly. What the 'Ascension' process is supposed to refer to, is the not the level of mathematical spatial dimensions we are in/have reached, but the level of consciousness/awareness that we are in. The level of sentience/sapience. We are currently on the 3rd level of sento-sapient state. Its the first level of awareness where sapience emerges. The previous levels only bear sentience as aware state. Animals are in the 2nd state of awareness, and some at the high spectrum nearing the 3rd level, have reached sentience (this includes various mammals, more notable the ape family, the whales and dolphins). They could even be considered on the verge of becoming pre-sapients. 1st level of awareness belongs to beings who have only lack sentience or exhibit hints of sentience or are on the level of pre-sentience. That would be all the life forms ranging from microbial life all the way to insects, and some plant life.

We are currently on the 3rd, but reaching the higher spectrum of 4th, which needs another term for the sentient/sapient understanding of one's self and the surrounding environment. In this state, with 4th level of aware state, we are apparently going to add the a few notches of the sound scales wild animals have, including some other exotic types of it, and discover other uses for sound other then for entertainment purposes only, or simply art. A very expanded spectrum of colors too. Apparently we would start to slightly perceive dark-matter as the shadow of regular matter, just as we have perceived the shadow of objects in our 3rd level of awareness here. Apparently, according to them, dark matter is in a way, a "shadow" of the regular matter in the universe, and is projected in various sizes around the universe where the, I'm quoting - "dark energy 'shines'". Also new types of stars and planetary systems that are composed of, again I'm quoting - "variations of dark-matter components" that we couldn't perceive before, because our awareness was quite limited in the 3rd level. The 'Reptoids', given they are still here after all that time, will also become visible, and the technology they use to cloak themselves won't be of any help to them. We are now aware of something 1 second before it happens on average, regarding all humans. Science has confirmed this. At least that's what the average estimation of the speed of the brainwork says. In the 4th level of aware state that value is going to increase at least 60. We would be able to avoid some disasters or tragedies, because we would be aware of the danger before it happens.

They also said auras will be a lot more noticeable to the majority of the general population. If all this is what awaits us in the 4th level of awareness, then I can't even imagine whats in the fifth level. This stratification of consciousness in many levels has been apparently done long time ago, in our and every other living being's perception of time, but in terms of the 'Source' and when "it" had decided to do so, may be considered an instant decision brought in the present (to "it"). I'm not sure how many levels there are, and this is because my contacts are not sure. They think its at least a dosen, before you collide your own individual conscious state with the source. Some may have formed a "consciousness cluster", or a hive-mind of sorts, and as a large chunk, collide with the 'source' eventually. I'm not sure how much time would be needed for that. The only civilization known to have reached a pre-'Source' embracing state was the Progenitors. One of the many reasons they are still regarded as a more mythical culture, than a regular one.


This Multiverse/Omniverse, has always existed. But it hasn't existed this way from always. To explain it in words that people would be able to understand, we need to look at the origin, or 'source' of the whole multiverse as an entity, or being. Think of the Multiverse as the sub-consciousness of "God" if you will. It would be easier to understand.

We are projections of a "dream". Of a "sleeping God". If one was to find out all the secrets of the universe, it would find a way to circumvent all its laws. As such, you become omnipotent. As omnipotent, you become "God", or more specifically, an "awakened" fragment/particle of "God". You join the source in its "awakened" state.

It sounds quack, I know. I had a lot of time pass before I swallowed even the basic aspects of this information.

Apparently, the "Source" of this Multiverse, decided to try out a 'different' experience and "fell asleep", thus creating the Multiverse. Now, how do I explain the fact that it has always existed?

Maybe if one was to read the definition of Omnipotence more closely, would understand a bit better. Time for the "source" itself, and for cosmic projections like us and other aspects (ETs, etc.), is not the same. We would consider it has always existed because of its cyclic nature. For "it", assuming we can put in some kind of category of what we deem 'sapience', it is probably just began to "sleep". I have no idea how to explain it in a better manner.

If I knew how to explain it, and figure everything out, like I said before, I wouldn't be here, I would be rejoined with the "Source".

You only "wake up" when you know you are dreaming right? What would happen if every single aspect of this Multiverse, gained full awareness? End of the "dream" and "subconsciousness".

I will have to find some other words to explain this, because as I'm reading this I think many would get even more confused than they were before with the nature of the Multiverse.

That is not a strange explanation to me at all. It has a lot of similarities to what various mystics and 'enlightened masters' have said about the nature of the universe, or as it sometimes called, 'the all.' Gurdjieff, among others, constantly referred to the need to 'wake up.'

Yes, thank you. One way of confirming this multiverse is a projection, is the ability to circumvent the firm laws of physics. Only projections who dwell in some form of 'sub-conscious realm' are able to do so. Especially when the minuscule projections, like "various forms of life", as we could call ourselves, are able to in a sense "control to some extent", the waters of the sub-conscious realm of the 'Source', since we are "It" anyway, only in gazillion many pieces. That's why the term "co-creators of our reality" actually applies.


I have the concept of it precise and clear in my head, but its like trying to explain the leaf of an idea to the atoms inside it, and then proceed to explain the branches and the whole tree. Its very, very difficult. We don't have words, terminology, nor concepts to be able to explain these things.

This is the same problem the aforementioned mystics seem to run into when trying to explain it to those of us that haven't yet achieved their level of insight. Apparently such 'higher realms' can best be comprehended symbolically, while our waking consciousness tends to be rather limited by our language constructs.[/QUOTE]

True, very true. Language should only be used as a tool while a species is very young, and needs a method of communication. As a species matures, and reaches new levels of development - technological, mental and spiritual/conscious, the species best method of communication is the transfer of thought (telepathy), who has visual and audio qualities that clearly language lacks in mimicking.


Onyx:

You originally posted this on your More Will Come ... thread, but it seems more appropriate for me to ask my question here.


A few of them have human connections in the various sources of the PTB. Its how they have come to know so much about the plans in detail. They have known the basics for quite a while, but not every single objective from their agenda. To my understanding, most of the "white hats" were quite present centuries ago, now only very few individuals that do leak information.

So contrary to popular thinking, not all of those involved with the NWO and the PTB are evil psychotic tyrants with a domination complex. There are always a few "white hats" as we call them here in Avalon/Camelot. There are some in NASA too, and in the various underground bases. We later come to know them as whistleblowers, or insider sources.

Were these "white hats" what were called the Rosicrucians? I am not referring to any of several current organizations that use that name, but what I can only describe as the 'true' Rosicrucians. Are these people still at work as they have been in the past, quietly behind the scenes?

Its possible, but I will have to research on these "true Rosicrucians" you mentioned.




I read Urantia many years ago. I think I read that the first lemur-like humans did not last long. Subsequently, and I cannot remember how it progressed to this, but there were then red, green, yellow, indigo, blue races spread out over the plant. Indigos were in Africa. I am not sure that I liked what was said about the indigos.

Can you expand?

The lemur-like creatures were no larger than a hamster in original form. With slow evolution, they reached a size of a large cat when on Mars. During the experiments, the genetic tinkering made the creature grow in size more, and branching in different animal groups, smallest, but most "workable" one being the ape family. From there it continued, ending with Atlantis and Lemuria, who produced the largest and most well-worked models of mankind. The Lemurians creating the red-skinned Adamite tribe groups, and the Atlantians, the green-skinned Evadamic tribe groups. Ashaoulon and Hyperborea produced some small tribe formations who had a different pigment, one being golden/amber-like, and another that had more violet skin. I will go in details about this in an upcoming post on Ancient Earth history. It should follow soon after this one.

I don't know of any indigo or blue-skinned humans in that time period though.


Thanks very much OnyxKnight, very interesting. I do not dare asking questions right now, not to get you overswamped (forums can do that as I witnessed here recently).

Personnaly I would be glad if you recoup by yourself and write about what happened to you, and what you learned that we should share in, as well as what they told you to tell us, all in one writing, i mean long pieces at a time. It would probably answer some of our questions anyhow and make for a coherent presentation on which we could then elaborate with our questions. It may avoid being overswampinbg you as well and not letting you the opportunity to truly explain.

Questions may be answered separately then. But of course, you do as you see best fit. This is only a suggestion.

I love reading you. Thank you for sharing. Be careful for your safety, you know a lot.

Thank you very much for that statement. I will try and focus dealing my posts here that way after I do the Ancient Earth history post. Its a nice suggestion, thank you again.

Looking forward to questions from you as well.


Thanks for the thread Onyx I have to say that you go into an amazing amount of detail, I have an illustrators mind so my imagination is working in overdrive. On a lighter side what do these visitors do with their recreational time. For example do they like music, art, philosophy perhaps going out for the night. And have you asked what they think of human art, music and culture.

Thanks

Sad to see you have retired as well.

Most of the humanoids engage in recreative sports. Yes, they do have them. Its not as diverse as ours though.

On Tau Ceti they have races featuring an animal they call the 'okh'. Its a large animal, furless, very flexible, with a head like a tapir. They ride them in large canals where spectators are on each side waiting patiently to see who wins. These are usually done as the end of a ceremonial practice, or on a festive day. Most often on ceremonial bonding rituals (their version of a wedding). They also have races of crafts that have solar sails. These are done in the sky and are usually done before the moon of the planet eclipses their sun, cutting off solar power, and declare a winner to the contestant that has reached the furthest point of all. These two sports are considered "traditional". There are other more "newborn" sports, that feature riding on high dunes with a type of flat disks that hover a couple of inches from the ground. These too use solar power in some way. And another sport is acrobatics in the air. Females usually do dancing, and the males have a ritual fights. All this done in the air.

The Mekodem do cavern cruising, and more often, design crystals of various colors to represent a form of paintings. I'm not familiar with other types of recreational activities, but I'm sure they have more than a couple that I'm aware of.

The Alpha Centauri people have races done in underwater using pet marine animals. More rarely, this is done with craft. They have a type of ritual dance/combat play, that I cannot decipher if its an actual dance, or a simulated combat tactics.

The Procyons have a sport that is similar to basketball (I know, right? What the hell), but the ball is harder than basketballs here, and the scoring ring is twisted in a vertical fashion. It reminds a LOT of a similar sport the Aztecs had (I think). It could have been inspired by the Procyons sport, and subsequently modern-day basketball too.

I'm not aware of any other sports or recreational activities of other species, humanoid or non-humanoid. But I can ask, and answer your question again with more detail.


Hi Onyxknight and thanks again.
Just one personal question from me:
Could you explain what the high pitched tone that I experience is? I hadn't had it for a while but just experienced it again out in the middle of the country... literally in the middle of nowhere with no t.v or radio on in the house. When it occurs it's very intrusive. I've heard different explanations for this. Is it AI taking a look? ....
Also, when I look at the sky (during the day) it appears to be teeming with glowing flying worm shaped things... Are these natural? I asked before on the Icke forum and was told they were prana, ufo's and 'seeing the blood pumping in your eyeballs'... Is the sky like the sea and just full of stuff?
What's your take?

Rose, dear, you have "strayed away" from the "flock". Of course you are gonna be checked whats going on. I get that often as well. Only the system gets confused because I disappear from observation from time to time when they do this.

The sky has its own ecosystem, as well as the deep, deep ocean places, and the Earth's underground. The worms are only one of the species. There are medusa-like critters, and a few rod-like "insects" too, that I have seen. I dunno what prana is though ...


Greetings OnyxKnight
What an interesting young man you seem to be...and what an eventful life you have...
Would like to know if any of your 'associates' from other worlds, dimensions...etc., ever indicated any civilization or human remnant that resides inside the Earth...
Are you familiar with the theory that there is an abundant living area inside our Earth, possibly entrances at the poles, perhaps others, and that most of the vehicles we see flying around our skies may originate from inner earth locations?
Thanks for your time.
Blessings

Yes, several actually. Those from Shamballa, few surviving cities as the remains of Ashaoulon, and a city called Kalnegor, built by one of the first settlers on Earth. I will expand more on these in future posts as Im short with time right now, and these are part of the ancient history post im doing as well anyway, so your answer will be clarified there.

Yes, the hollow pocket's areas are full of life inside the Earth. The low-tech looking vehicles, including some blimp-crafts are from there, the inside.


OnyxKnight

I'm a naturally skeptical person Onyx, and I've read all the material you posted here.

I have to say, my intuition is telling me this is factual.

A brilliant piece of work on your part.

You definitely need to write a book. Your explanatory flow is highly intelligible and is a pleasure to read.

I hope you continue to have many more experiences such as these.

Also, after reading this, I retract any statement I said regarding you theory of upcoming events in the solar system.

I'll take what you have said on board.

Though I would like confirmation that the planet X is not as large as Jupiter and I'd like to know what the average size of a dwarf star is?

Keep up the good work here sir.

Cheers,

Icecold

Well, thanks for those words.

I'm guessing you made the Nibiru posts prior to this one? Because we engaged in some conflictual verbal communication there. I hope I will clarify things more as future posts come.


Hi OnyxKnight
Question 1: Have you met any pig-like entities, or seen any?
Question 2: Have you seen or been in any very long, supple, undulating craft, possibly the same as what Credo Mutwa described, maybe a mile or so long?

I thank you in anticipation.

1- No, not that I remember. I can check their database though.

2- I have seen one that fist that description as being from Ursa Minor. I don't remember the specific star system. I will check on this as well. Keep an eye for future posts, I will cover this.

[Nanoo Nanoo]

Hey Onyx

I wanted to ask if you can mention these names to your contacts and see if they know who/where they are. " Veuelt Zeta " And " Jarraldu Zenith " ? They came to me in meditation so i may have misspelled the names ..

also re the Anunaki i get a hit on that there are 2 types or factions and one of them are being misunderstood as malevolent .. the other are underground and givign a bad name to the other ..

your thoughts on this if you havent already covered it ..

N

[ulli]

Onyx ...
have you heard of Phillip Krapf, former editor of the LA Times...
He wrote a book "The Contact Has Begun" about his abduction experiences...they were called the Verdants.


"I have studied abduction reports for ten years. I have also had first-hand experience with extraterrestrials, so I found myself agreeing with Phillip Krapf’s assessment of his life after spending three days on board an extraterrestrial craft. Anyone familiar with the abduction literature will find some elements of his abduction particularly unusual.

Phillip Krapf was never abducted during his childhood - not even during his adolescence or young adulthood. He was 62 years old when he had his first, and perhaps only abduction experience. The extraterrestrials told him their species’ name. If it were to be translated into English using the closest word available they would be called "Verdants."

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/vida_alien/vidaalien_signtimes05a.htm


just to something about this link, which was the first one I opened.
I looked at Phillip Krapf years ago. (Things have gone quiet about him now)...

and here it is being determined if he was a real abductee, or the victim of human cabal experiments which were designed to make him think it was an alien abduction...
whichever it is...he was one of the earlier cases

[ThePythonicCow]

People talk about reaching other dimensions in 2012, when the clocks knocks midnight etc. What are these dimensions? They seem to be using mathematical representations of dimensions. Spatial dimensions. From what I'm able to gather from reading all those websites. The furthest some beings have went is the 5th mathematical dimension, in spatial terms. But they had to leave the physical form behind, as there have been problems with adjusting physically in 5 dimensions. I have problems imagining a phycial body of a being existing in the 4th dimension, let alone the fifth.. And we seem to skip one and go directly to the fifth one lol.

I think its one of the disinformation that keeps reoccurring times and times again. Starting from where we are now - a three dimensional space, yes - that's true. But is the ascension connected with this at all? No it is not. The number 3 is used misleadingly. What the 'Ascension' process is supposed to refer to, is the not the level of mathematical spatial dimensions we are in/have reached, but the level of consciousness/awareness that we are in. The level of sentience/sapience. We are currently on the 3rd level of sento-sapient state. Its the first level of awareness where sapience emerges.
Well said. I agree that it is disinformation, or at least unfortunate, to confuse mathematical dimensions with levels of sentience.

Thank-you for elaborating on that.

[MariaDine]

Well, here goes. One - The veil betwen dimensions is thining. If you have 3 vision open , you can see «them» and they are «many». Two - If you think having it open, helps...well, that depends of you. In my case a big load of «work« is being constantly thrown my way. In a nut shell, we are working to ourselves. The more Conscious you become the more you see how little you know about everything. Three - You can't imagine the number of people that has etherical body implants. If I would tell you the percentage, you would think that I am nutcase. Four- Yes, the world is not going to end on 2012, but we are in for a difficult time. Five - I'm telling all this with the certitude I will not be belived.

Namasté

[MariaDine]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3okWDLUtlI&feature=related

Namasté

FROM THE CASSIOPEAN fILES
Life experiences reflect how one interacts with God. Those who are asleep are those of little faith in terms of their interaction with the creation. Some people think that the world exists for them to overcome or ignore or shut out. For those individuals, the worlds will cease. They will become exactly what they give to life. They will become merely a dream in the "past." People who pay strict attention to objective reality right and left, become the reality of the "Future."

[Positive Vibe Merchant]

Hi Everyone,

Firstly I want to say to you Onyx, thank you for being so willing to share your information with everyone.

Unlike others previously who have shrouded their information with vagueness, I appreciate your articulation and directness with the information your presenting. It is a genuine relief for me, and I have no doubt I am not the only one feeling this way.

I do have just a few small questions for you.

I would like to ask firstly, that through all your experiences to date, where has this bought your personally, more to the point what are your values as a 'person'? How have these values changed as the increase of information, and acquired knowledge grown?

And finally, from the information/knowledge that you have, and have been given, what do you feel, or believe, is the most important issue facing the human species today, and how do you think we can encourage the positive behaviours that may be required to those who 'are not yet awake'?

Once again, thank you for being so open, and so willing to answer any and all questions presented to you.

Much Respect
PVM

[Flash]

Many thanks Oxynight, very informative.

1. Any ideas or advice you have received that would help us to get rid of psychopaths leading us?

2.. You gave few probalities for our future, which were, to my idea, quite dark and difficult in the near future. is there anything that may change those outcomers for the better?

3. Can Avalon, or other forums, have an impact to make the future better following your advisers? And how?

[sanjosenian]

Hi Onyxknight,

What an engrossing epic of a thread this is!!
Thank you very much for the information, and the time you took to answer questions.

In one of your earlier post you mentioned the Progenitor race and inferred that they 'could be' the same as the Wingmakers. (Was that accurate?)
The language you use in that post (the one on 'quick summary of Earth History') actually made me thought you were James himself.

My question is: Do you have information on the Wingmakers materials, its Philosophies, arts and music, the Lyricus Teaching Order, and James?
More specifically, do these materials resonate with you personally?
Looking forward to the 'Ancient Earth History' post, and I wish you all the best in your efforts to spread the experiences and knowledge that you have.
You are much appreciated in this Forum.

[IndigoStar]

Onyx you can disregard my earlier question because you already answered it on my forum but I'd like to know if you could take a photo of any ETs you meet with and post it here for us?
Also, how often do you meet them and can you call upon them whenever you want?
Can you ask them if they'd be willing to meet up with some of us awakened folks?

[DNA]

I'd also love to know whether the photo below is authentic in nature. I'm not sure as to the veracity of the story behind it, but I read that a couple discovered it whilst developing their role of film, & they have no idea how it got there!

http://img809.imageshack.us/img809/755/ebetypeii.jpg


Wow,,,that would be the craziest freaking thing ever. It would mean you were like Betty and Barney Hill and your abducters had a sense of humor or something.
It would also be just like that episode of Southpark where the boys wake up with no memory of their being abducted and they have a polaroid of it the next day.
SouthPark All new earth (http://www.southparkstudios.com/clips/154007/all-new-earth) Too funny :)

[DNA]

Wow OnyxKnight
Your explanation for Bill in connection with abductions was just chilling. Scared the crap out of me.
Very well done, thank you. You knowledge is amazing!
Also your explanation of all things Ashtar, very scary. I'm wondering, is there a connection to Uri Geller in all of this?
Uri Geller reports communicating with an alien intelligence,,,and that alien intelligence claimed to be AI.

Just amazing!
I am 100% on board with Bill interviewing you. Your information is top notch of the highest order.
Thank You again OnyxKnight

[Rocky_Shorz]

saw a flash of the red dude and you are right, if they landed we'd have all the right wing nut jobs thinking the portal is open and battle is on...

Glenn Beck would be calling for a charge... ;)

[Newlyn]

I have experiences when I´m feeling the pitched sound, just like Rose, but alson experiences when I try to sleep. I feel heavy preassure at one point in my forehead (3 eye area) And then I hear strange psychadealic sounds behind my ears. After that vibration in my forehead, different sections all the time, like I´m being scanned. And then the same thing with my whole body, like the scanning feeling. I also hear noices very different, like more signal, psycadelic electronic sounding.

I don´t really expect that you know it, but maybe it sounds similar to something to you?

[Billy]

Hi OnyxKnight, If you have not already seen this report i am sure you will be interested. Maybe this report should have a thread of it's own, but i will post the link and part of the report here first. Please read the rest guys.

Scientists confirm Extraterrestrial genes in Human DNA

Research findings continues work of DNA Nobel Prize Winner Dr. Francis Crick

by Peter Jiang and Jenny Li
Artist representation of Semjase


Artist representation of Semjase who Exo-scientists indicate is a Pleiadian woman. Reference: Billymeier.com.

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Collaborative research from a gathering of exo-scientists postulate that there are genes from over 20 extraterrestrials civilizations in Human DNA. These exo-scientists have continued the work of Nobel Prize winner Dr. Frances Crick, and other scholars in this area. Current findings are consistent with reports of Professor Sam Chang, who discreetly released information on his own apparent findings, in association with the Human Genome Project. Scientists are beginning to complain more and more about political attempts to compromise the integrity of their important work for humanity. The discreet releasing of findings, is one apparent way in which scientists try to cope with scientific peer pressures to conform to prevailing political pressures.

Details of findings have been published in part, by Dr. Michael Salla, who is a learned scholar on extraterrestrial research. Exo-scientists and other researchers base their findings, in part, on carefully collecting data, which includes well corroborated documented observations by contactees and "whistleblowers", as well as other documentation. These verified reliable sources have come into contact with representatives of non-Earth Human civilizations living in human populations at-large, and also in official capacities.
J. Watson and F. Crick (right)

Francis Crick and partner, James Watson, startled the academic world in 1953 when they deciphered the structure of the DNA molecule.


"Exo-science" is the study of extraterrestrial phenomenon. "Exo-science" is further associated with "exopolitics" which embraces the need for humanity to have open contacts with Extraterrestrials on a representative democratic basis, that respects Earth's sovereignty.

In today's "global economy" an "official science" which denies the analytical study of spiritual phenomena, as a legitimate context for understanding human reality, has been created over time. The "science" which is legitimated by institutions that are closely linked to this "global economy", tends to seek to analyse only certain aspects of 'materiality'. Priorised subjects by this "official science" are limited to areas which complement the agenda of constituencies of individuals who seek to manipulate the "recognized" body of human knowledge for power and control. That scientific priorisation context, has notably sought to exclude extraterrestrial relationships to humanity, in order to keep humanity ignorant of its apparent potential "locked" heritage within its own DNA.


READ MORE HERE.

http://www.agoracosmopolitan.com/home/Frontpage/2007/01/26/01340.html

[from_Brzil]

Hi OnyxK,

Do you know anything about Sanni Ceto ? ...

You need to take a look at what she has to say... If you haven't already...

Some AV friends started a thread on her... in case someone wants to look it up..

I would like to ask you, if you could, on your upcoming posts, tells us if her information is in harmony with yours. Specially, this one point :

She says the Greys are not Bad, they are acctually trying to help us... And the Reptoids are the bad ones, capable of shapeshifting,they are among us... and... they pass themselfs as the Greys and give them a bad reputation. Also, the reptoids don't like the grays and have threatned them, saying that, if they mess with their agenda and the cover up, they will go to 'zeta reticuli' and kill them all.

I encourage you to watch this :
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8085211171228914111&hl=undefined#

It would be great if you could share your info and thoughts with Us on this one.
Thanks Sir,
;-)

[Rocky_Shorz]

The larger parts of Greece, Albania and Bulgaria will be devastated by an artificial tsunami disaster scenario, as well as the Egyptian populated areas that lie on the Mediterranean coast (like Alexandria) and all the other surrounding places of human settlements around the Mediterranean Sea. France survives and unites with the region of Basqia under its French territory (Basqians dislike other nations and mixing with them, so I'm unsure how this happens), as well as Italy and the Sicilian parts into one united body of nations. They build huge walls extending several km in the sky around the part of the country they call the 'Central French Republic', or their epicenter of power. They will culturally disintegrate into cultureless soceity of hive-minded humans as time goes by, as they isolate themselves from the rest of the world (again, I understand the disastrous scenarios, but this seems to extreme and too absurd to happen, yet this is what was laid out to me). The Basque region of Spain takes hold in power and picks up the remaining parts along with Portugal when they become weak economically, under the 'Union of Basqia'. The Nordic countries survive by hiding in the underground cities built there (some are not built by humans). The Slavic regions also survive and take the least damage. But technologically they are drawn back for a century.

Only small parts of the Bavarian region of Germany survive, they form secluded isolasionist communities (largely underground). Only Belgium, parts of Turkey, Switzerland, some parts of Russia and Ukraine survive, the rest of the European countries are devastated beyond recognition.

This is part of a one timeline of events. Individual actions of people will determine how much, if any, of this would happen. This timeline sounds pretty bad, and pessimistic, but after a few centuries after these events, I'm told a benevolent global guidance system will be implemented incorporating most countries. The Martian teritory will be free for colonization too. An apropriate colonization at that. Some ET elements will reveal themselves but present themselves as remnants of "old human culture, going back to Atlantis" as they still don't feel we are "there yet" regarding ET reality made factual globally. Even less then, when there is so much else going on. After the colony on Mars (My ET contacts constantly leave off the Moon from the talk when discussing colonization, and they also hinted that it may not be around by the time most people start to pay attention to the sky again - humans will hide underground for a lot of time before going back to the surface), we colonize Ganymede and Titan. A dispatch station is set around Neptune accompanied by an accelerator tech (a type of technology that accelerates insterstellar travel near 3/4 of the speed of light), a "phase" gate, that wil be nicknamed Neptune Gate (very ... innovative ....). For some reason they said that what I know beyond that should be withheld from discussion at this point in time (it involves interstellar activities of humans).

* Full implementation of solar, wind, wave and tide energy in Asia (Most of Asia survives, and in the imagery I saw, Japan was still there, live and well);

* Discovery of magnetic, vacuum, acoustic, and orgonite sources of energy;

* Healing practices with solar energy and sound;

* The discovery of an A.I system monitoring our planet, by the Japanese.

* New theories of evolution will emerge;

* Discovery of the second sun, thus making our system a binary one ;

* Small Physical Pole Shift;

* Discovery that Earth at one point in time had two moons (and even more deep in its past, no moons at all, and was in a system that once had three suns);

* Iran revealing ties with the Aldebaran system

and more

______________________

I will add more to this later on, as I'm short with time and with noted material

Keep the faith my friend...


SCIENCE SCANDAL! 8.4 magnitude Libya CONFIRMED, how did it disappear?

link (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?20912-SCIENCE-SCANDAL!-8.4-magnitude-Libya-CONFIRMED-official-but-deleted-from-sites&p=225564#post225564)

We have the ability to create our own timelines...

[Pilgrim]

I have experiences when I´m feeling the pitched sound, just like Rose, but alson experiences when I try to sleep. I feel heavy preassure at one point in my forehead (3 eye area) And then I hear strange psychadealic sounds behind my ears. After that vibration in my forehead, different sections all the time, like I´m being scanned. And then the same thing with my whole body, like the scanning feeling. I also hear noices very different, like more signal, psycadelic electronic sounding.

I don´t really expect that you know it, but maybe it sounds similar to something to you?

It sounds very much like my experience too....

[Anno]

[...]
Its very important that the baby is exposed to the electro-magnetic frequencies of the person who takes care of it, be it its parents, or one parent, relatives, or legal guardians. In order to develop as a fully grown and established individual.[...]

What happens if this is interfered with? For example, I know adopted people who spent their first year or so being moved around or were placed in homes were there simply weren't enough carers to give attention to all the children all of the time. I know one such person that never cries and never cried as a child because this kind of early childhood taught him that when you cry noone comes. They are all pretty detached and have issues forming relationships.

Also, Leo Zagami said that the Vatican use astronomy and numerology etc, to plot when people will be born and where, so they can tell when certain types of soul will appear in bloodlines. Could they use this knowledge to remove that soul/baby from its intended parents and 'mess them up' from birth?

[Lettherebelight]

http://www.glimpseofkrishna.com/images/mahavishnu-wc.jpg
Holy guacamole, Onyxknight!

I've been reading this thread, and I am amazed at the parallels your accounts share with the Vedas. I don't know if you are familiar with this vast and ancient body of knowledge, but the statements about 'the sleeping Source' sounds exactly like MahaVishnu, sleeping in the Causal Ocean, breathing out universes (through His 'pores'!), and then breathing them in again at the time of dissolution, and endless cycle. It does sound 'quack', initially,
but I thought you did an excellent job of explaining it.


Hello again OnyxKnight

I was just wondering , since you have ties to ancient aliens , have you ever asked anyone of them about how EVERYTHING or shall i say ANY multiverse had it's birth ?

Or will this be covered in your in your up and coming info on time travel ?

Maybe even just a hint ? heh heh

thanx

I will need a bigger post for explaining that in detail (and I will make such a post soon), but for the sake of getting an answer right now, I will share something in short:

This Multiverse/Omniverse, has always existed. But it hasn't existed this way from always. To explain it in words that people would be able to understand, we need to look at the origin, or 'source' of the whole multiverse as an entity, or being. Think of the Multiverse as the sub-consciousness of "God" if you will. It would be easier to understand.

We are projections of a "dream". Of a "sleeping God". If one was to find out all the secrets of the universe, it would find a way to circumvent all its laws. As such, you become omnipotent. As omnipotent, you become "God", or more specifically, an "awakened" fragment/particle of "God". You join the source in its "awakened" state.

It sounds quack, I know. I had a lot of time pass before I swallowed even the basic aspects of this information.

Apparently, the "Source" of this Multiverse, decided to try out a 'different' experience and "fell asleep", thus creating the Multiverse. Now, how do I explain the fact that it has always existed?

Maybe if one was to read the definition of Omnipotence more closely, would understand a bit better. Time for the "source" itself, and for cosmic projections like us and other aspects (ETs, etc.), is not the same. We would consider it has always existed because of its cyclic nature. For "it", assuming we can put in some kind of category of what we deem 'sapience', it is probably just began to "sleep". I have no idea how to explain it in a better manner.

If I knew how to explain it, and figure everything out, like I said before, I wouldn't be here, I would be rejoined with the "Source".

You only "wake up" when you know you are dreaming right? What would happen if every single aspect of this Multiverse, gained full awareness? End of the "dream" and "subconsciousness".

I will have to find some other words to explain this, because as I'm reading this I think many would get even more confused than they were before with the nature of the Multiverse.

Sorry I can't be more elaborate.

I have the concept of it precise and clear in my head, but its like trying to explain the leaf of an idea to the atoms inside it, and then proceed to explain the branches and the whole tree. Its very, very difficult. We don't have words, terminology, nor concepts to be able to explain these things.




...So beautifully put, Onyxknight.

http://krishnastore.co.nz/images/cache/TA-226-140x150.pnghttp://adishakti.org/images/mhm_vishnu_sleeping_on_shesha.jpghttp://www.charlesmorrison.net/MatrixUnderstood/Vishnu6.jpg

[thunder24]

Hey Onyx,

wondering what the beings you associate with in space think of Keylontic Sciences? Do they think it would help people on earth to know these things, and if so what do they think about people here being charged high prices for all the material, seeing as how the majority of us scramble to pay bills?
peace

[ulli]

@Lettherebelight,
Mahavishnu needs to wake up then.
Someone needs to put a laptop onto that belly.

My version of Source is not a sleeping beauty that is creating universes through It's pores, but uses It's hands.
My Source is alert, awake, fully conscious, loving, healing, helping, forgiving, all-knowing, tender, compassionate- in other words, the Almighty, perfect Creator.
At least when I turn to my Source I know that It's capable of hearing little me, and answering my pleas.
Never fails.
It just takes time, dependant on how many atoms It has to rearrange to get the job done.

[Lettherebelight]

I have the concept of it precise and clear in my head, but its like trying to explain the leaf of an idea to the atoms inside it, and then proceed to explain the branches and the whole tree. Its very, very difficult. We don't have words, terminology, nor concepts to be able to explain these things.



I'll have to agree 100% with OnyxKnight here.
And I also agree with you Ulli, in your more personal description of the Absolute,
which includes all those exemplary qualities.

The 'sleeping Source' to which OK refers, is but merely one aspect of the cosmic truth, and even that is beyond our comprehension.

The term 'sleeping' in this case does not refer to the same kind of 'sleep' that we experience when we close the skin flaps over our ocular sense gell-globes and lose
consciousness. :sleep:

[stegosaur]

Hi Onyx

First, thank you for taking the time to make all of your experiences and knowledge available to us here, it's truly amazing. When I read the first part of your post detailing the litany of civilizations you've met I couldn't help but think you might actually have a larger body of knowledge than TPTB on different lifeforms in this part of the galaxy!

Anyways, your information has filled in a lot of holes, connected a lot of dots but even so all of this information leads me to one, pressing, fundamental and unanswered question:

Why is the NWO agenda necessary from TPTB POV?

Your information tells us that humans currently have the ability to repair DNA (eradicate all known illness), Travel through space (free energy - fossil fuels no longer needed). They could presumably clean all pollution and end world hunger. All of that is possible right now and instead they choose to do the exact opposite.

WHY?

There are only two explanations I can think of:

1) They're psychopaths

2) Cataclysmic extinction level event (ELE)

Or a combination of the two.

As a geologist, I can tell you it's a certainty that an ELE will happen sometime in Earth's future. How do I know? The entire geologic record is littered with ELEs - what some people may not realize is that the boundary between every major period is based upon an ELE - e.g. the Cretaceous-Tertiary boundary, Permian-Triassic and on and on. So if you have a chance to talk to your contacts I would love to hear their explication of the forces responsible for the massive die-offs observed throughout Earth's rock record.

Moving on, if TPTB have learned about an upcoming ELE that still does not justify their criminal hiding of technology from the population. Imagine if all of mankind's achievements from the Scientific revolution on had been hidden from the rest of Humanity for the last 400+ years. Mankinds heritage would be robbed of everything from the printing press, steam engine, flight, travel to the moon etc and that is exactly what is happening now: We're being robbed BLIND of our heritage. We're being exterminated. FOR WHAT BLOODY REASON? What is the reasoning behind TPTB for implementing the NWO/population reduction plan?

I understand why ET cannot take out HAARP but why can't they take out the tiny, psychopathic element of humanity that has hijacked our species? NO ONE elected them to represent humanity. I did not elect Rockefeller to rob me of a chance for me or other geologists to study planetary geology on Io or Mars or Europa etc. And that's a petty academic injustice - millions of people are dying everyday from this unelected evil.

Also, I found it really interesting that the insect ET are the most incensed about this NWO bull**** (as opposed to a humanoid race)

[Rocky_Shorz]

as a geologist, does it make you wonder why we are being protected from ELEs? as Onyx calls them, God's Balls forcing the burst from sunspots before they swing towards us...

why are they there now, and not back through history?

and out of curiosity, when a non benevolent pops into our system are they instantly surrounded and controlled? center top of this pic...

http://sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov//data/REPROCESSING/Completed/2011/c2/20110524/20110524_1228_c2_1024.jpg

[stegosaur]

as a geologist, does it make you wonder why we are being protected from ELEs? as Onyx calls them, God's Balls forcing the burst from sunspots before they swing towards us...

why are they there now, and not back through history?

and out of curiosity, when a non benevolent pops into our system are they instantly surrounded and controlled? center top of this pic...

http://sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov//data/REPROCESSING/Completed/2011/c2/20110524/20110524_1228_c2_1024.jpg


Yes Rocky very much... that's why I was hoping Onyx (or Omni) could shed some light onto the true nature of ELEs.

Between the SoHo images and the words of James Horak it does seem as though right now we're being protected, and that protection ends if TPTB mobilize plans for depopulation. He also says that this protection has been revoked in the past.

Maybe ELEs are built in 'reset' buttons - i.e. the nuke button for when a genetic experiment goes horribly wrong on a planet wide scale.

Or ELEs happen all the time and it's up to other sentient life to save other forms of sentient life in peril? In that case maybe ELE's have happened in our Solar System when it wasn't being interacted with by other life forms?

I'm just grabbing at straws here but I still view this as being the fundamental question to understanding TPTB relationship with us 'useless eaters'

[Alien Ramone]

Onyx Knight,
Thanks for giving us all this information. I'll buy your book to get every detail, if you ever write one. Here are some questions that I am very curious about. I would be interested in reading any information you have on the following subjects. Some of these questions may be part of subjects that you are going to address in larger comments.

- Do you have any information about who or what group is supervising reincarnation?
- How are things perceived in the spiritual plane of existence since there would be no physical sensory organs? Would vision in light and darkness be the same?
- Is the eternal spirit really about 22 grams of hydrogen arranged in a certain way, and can it be destroyed by nuclear explosions or certain types of radiation as George Green has talked about?
- How do ghosts move around and project form to those who can see them and do they have limits on what form they can project?
- Why is the Universe expanding at an accelerating rate?
- Is a new timeline branch created every time there is faster than light travel?
- Do you believe Dan Burisch that two groups of Earth humans migrated in the future? One group became a group of Greys 45,000 years in the future and evolved into mantis Greys 52,000 years in the future. The other group migrated to Orion and became the Tall Whites.
- Do you believe that womholes connecting different times are set to certain increments and would you have any idea why that would be?
- If a group had a number of space ships and sent them out from their planet faster than the speed of light, wouldn't they lose them all, since the space ships would end up in another timeline branch?
- Do you believe Ashayana Dean that there is a Guardian Alliance (maybe it's the Alliance that you had talked about) that is trying to help us advance enough spiritually and through DNA manipulation, so that we can see portals that will allow us to get out of this finite Universe by around 2230 when the portals will no longer be possible to use. Do you believe our Universe is being sucked into a parallel Universe for use as quantum energy and that the Earth will be destroyed by a red burst of the sun around 2970?

[MariaDine]

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Namasté

[OnyxKnight]

Hello all, its me

I decided I'm gonna answer some questions and explain some things.

One of the responses were about the nature of the universe, and its creation. I was told another analogy about it. Let's assume for a moment that the universe is a 'programmed outcome', or a form of "simulated reality", as imagined by somebody/something. We would be the program's encoded structures that were designed to be, or to occur, if you will. Somebody's idea of something. Let's call it existence. Can we say "God" is a programmer? Maybe, if 'it' was conscious about what 'it' was doing. But a conscious being/intelligence, of such a nature (omnipotent), would likely run multiple simulations and change things when they occur, things 'it' finds as "excess" in the "program outcome" or "unnecessary".

That's if "God" was a programmer and had an unimaginable (to us) advanced computing device. Artificial reality gets a whole new meaning. And here we enter a cosmic version of "Inception". What's with the artificial realities we create? A simulated reality within a simulated reality? How much time before the simulations we create, gain enough intelligence that they too, create, some type of simulations of their own choosing? We already are upgrading the level of intelligence of artificial programs on an outstanding pace and we are reaching a future where the simulations might become even smarter than us. A few are lurking in a few close corners of space, looking at us here :).

I previously talked about "God" being a 'sleeping entity' and we are all projections of a dream, and the Multiverse is 'its' sub-consciousness in a way. These two seemingly do not correlate with one another but there is actually a very good connection. The sub-conscious parts, as far as we know, and our understanding, have found out that are potent in creative imagination. Largely abstract, but sometimes concise, as whatever "concise" might mean to certain people. What if "God" has programmed 'its' consciousness to turn into some form of "sub-conscious state" (since we can assume this is something new, and never experienced before), in order to understand itself better? The "device" creating a "dream-state" within the mind of "God" and thus, its projections, and "dream experience". Part of it - the fragmentation of its consciousness in unimaginable numbers experiencing individual take and portrayal of reality. If the laws of physics, or any other laws in this universe, can be broken/circumvented (as they clearly have been, in many cases), then we really are in a some form of experience that is not 100% real as we are used to think. A glitch in the program/matrix? :) Or can we say that those who managed to circumvent the laws of physics used "cheats" in order to fool the "Program"? Or is it just that in a dream-state, the "dreamer" can sometimes (not always), control the course of the dream. As we are hyper-gazillion fragments of that dreamer "God", we can only co-create our reality (or the course of the "dream"), and actually control it, as we are not alone in the universe, and depend on the intent of others, to create a common reality for everything. This is why timelines keep shifting from one chrono-trajectory to another. If we were all thinking and wishing the same thing, throughout the universe, we would have one, uni-lateral reality to experience.

I know a lot of people would like to end it all, and just "attach back-up" with the "Source". Think it this way - there is a reason why all of us are here and now. We need to play out our roles as individuals, as this was the "original intent". I for one find things to be waaay to interesting to just give away to the temptation to "link-back". There may be negative events, negative energy, tragedies of all kind along the way, but I find it as a necessary part of our experience here, that we need to go through, and grow through, adapt and learn from, these things, in order to have something meaningful and rich to give-back to the "Source", once "it" decides to end this all.

These are some of the questions and analogies presented by them in my last contact, as I had a bit of confusion surrounding certain topics of this. I think it was due to me having the thought of something else, totally alien from the entire universe, to exist on some way of form, somewhere ... else. I still do. But its easier to cope with after a bit more explanation on their side. Hopefully, this either cleared up some confusion others might have had regarding this or at least this made them understand the concept a little better.

I quoted you Bilko, as you had a comment on this. And to answer, yes, you are on the right track :).

There has been some confusion regarding my comments on the disappearance of Nibiru from Snowbird here. So I thought I say again what I know (so far) regarding this.

Nibiru was destroyed on March 23rd 2003, approximately sometime after 2 AM our time. It coincides with the time all the pictures of it that were posted on a few websites on the net, disappeared and were never seen again, and coincides with the fast build up of disinfo websites, fake Nibiru shots, and the start of the mass campaign of fear-based internet terror. This was present before too, but it culminated around this period.

There are conflicting reports around Nibiru's destruction, coming from others who claim it was destroyed. Some have said it was the Thubans, others that it was the Galactic Federation etc.

Those I contact say it was neither. The Ciakar not being present there at the time, and that they don't know of any "Galactic Federation" as a body of multitude of civilizations. They have only said this a few times before when I asked them about it, but have never asked for details, until a few contact dates ago. They were confused as to finding some of their own alliance races listed as being art of this "Galactic Federation", like the cultures from Sirius and Procyon for example.

According to them, it was done by a temporary association of an even larger body of civilizations, which is only temporary, referred to by some as "The Force", and sometimes, as the "KBA". KBA stands for Kuiper Belt Aliens and sometimes it is read as Kuiper Belt Armada.

The body of the KBA includes most of the cultures I've contacted, including the Logos being, several other non-physical intelligences, 3 hive-minded cultures from another galaxy (not sure which one, I know its part of the Virgo super-cluster), some "insectoid" civilizations, many of which I have never heard before, and I still don't know much (as they are new on the scene, and there is no information on them in my contacts' databanks). I think those "EMVs" some people refer to, that are mending some crap done to our sun, might be part of a larger group of such, that is in the Kuiper Belt as well. There are some very advanced civilizations that have come from the Andromeda Galaxy as well, but seem to be very private about themselves, only clear on what they are here for, and they claim to be protecting the "Ancients". I'm still trying to figure what that means in connection with us, and I'm currently researching that. So far, only new agey stuff. The most fascinating thing is, that new cultures keep on coming and aligning forces there as time goes by.

The reason the KBA is still here, as I asked them few days ago, is that there is another invading force coming from NGC 891. The threat has been minimized since the region where the portal has occurred, that's connected with this galaxy has been shut down. I say minimized as they can link to other places.

The Nibiruans, with guidance of a male patron of the En-lil side, have claimed a need to enter our Solar System, and pick up some left-off mining equipment on the moons of Saturn, that is too big to carry on small vessels. What happened was that they didn't set their trajectory towards the gas giant, but towards our own planet, and have stopped responding to signals telling them to elaborate the current course and to change trajectory. There was an ultimatum set in place regarding some culture's views on the entrance of the Nibiruans here, but according to them, it was one of the new races (as part of the KBA) that actually fired on their planet-craft. There was a conflict involving weapon's exchange and their planet got blown to pieces. Most of the population managed to save themselves and have left the solar system, finding a portal/gate to a planet in the Gamma Serpentis system. They are currently there building a new planetoid-sized craft, as well as their population.

The remains of the planet are in the Kuiper Belt and will most likely be shown by the Japanese Space Agency (as they are not as shy with strange findings like the ESA and NASA), and they plan a mission to the Kuiper Belt in near future.

The universe is like a zoo, and as such you encounter various forms of life. You can even think of it as an ocean (that's a good analogy bennycog). Some might inhabit planets, asteroids, even nebulae in space. Other non-physical entities reside inside stars and other cosmic objects. And yes, there are "free-floating life forms" in space too. There are many such life forms, that exist in the vast vacuum of space, between stars and planets. There are even life forms that exist in the void between galaxies, but these are more rare.

A lot of them are very small, and are usually feeding off molecules in space. Others feed on the little ones. There are also giant beings, some reaching asteroid sizes, that have an entire internal ecosystem going on, in their bodies. One of the Matari races have designed semi-sentient craft made of organic components that transport them from one place to another, and can fall into this category, as life forms that can live in space conditions.

Mentioning the upper atmosphere, yes, Earth has an entire unexplored ecosystem in the air above, as well as below ground. Till some time ago, neither the sea-bottom ecosystem was known to exist, but we have discovered it. I believe this is going to go through the same process too.

My previous demonic avatar ... :)

Yes, it kinda disturbed a lot of people, and made them ask questions about it, since I'm not exactly like the image I portrayed, character-wise. At least I don't think I am, am I? :D

We all hear about our Higher Self I believe? Right? And everything is fine with that, but those who teach you spirituality are helping you connect with only one aspect of yourself, not completely. In addition to the Higher Self, there is the Hidden Self, or the Inner Self. I think I discussed this with a member of Avalon, through PMs (not sure who that was).

The Inner Self is also what some may refer to as our dark-side. We all have it. There is no single human being that doesn't. Its wrong to focus on the Higher Self all the time, in every situation, as it severs the link between your Higher Self and the connected medium state, and the Inner Self. I guess because its called an Inner aspect of our Self, it is deemed "hidden" or "dark". Its not necessarily something "evil"/negative like the term might suggest.

I'll explain some attributes of it:

* With the Inner Self, you can shut off all emotions in an instant, or activate them in a normal working manner, instantaneously. This can come in handy in certain situations where circumstances might need you to be less responsive, less stimulated, and show less or no emotions. Sometimes emotions can give away what we think or feel at the moment, which can make us vulnerable, in the eyes of some. And we live in times where we cannot afford the luxury of showing that all the time and to everybody, especially if they don't have our best interests in mind. In that case, they will probably use/abuse your state to a point where they will break you down as a person.

* The fear-factor. A powerful tool to both assume power, control and dominance, but there is another side where the same feeling of fear can save your ass. It has done so innumerable times throughout history (not only our history, but any other life forms capable of understanding danger, risk, imminent death etc.). This Inner Self allows you to turn on or shut off your fear. In a normal mode of behavior, our Inner Self usually allows us to experience fear most of the time. Sometimes an overreaction of it leading to paranoia/hysteria etc. In stations where one could be scared, with the fear-sensation being shut off you can allow yourself to act in a way according to the situation you find yourself in. One with a mastered Inner Self control, can easily not only escape the claws of the 'Reptoids' and the 'Grays' but also if with enough intelligence manipulate them to a degree where you can remain in a conscious state and examine the surroundings (maybe see if its not a real encounter - that its a MILABS work etc.). They will have no choice but to bring you back.

* It also allows you to focus better on certain things and increase concentration, and intelligence in some cases. You can also control your body temperature and also your brain wave frequency.

* You can easily ignore negative intruders into your mind (which are mostly recorded channeled messages), and if the transmissions reach you, they will most likely be sent to you in vain, as you would not be 'listening'. This is like I said, very useful against intruding negative energies, or thoughts (for empaths / telepaths). The Higher Self is the opposite, making you an open door, and an open channel to everything, tuning in to any frequency, feeling, sensation or thought out there that you can "grab". Which is a good thing, if you are open to communicate and willing to share yourself with others. But you need both for safety;

* You can even open hidden, regressed, or "locked"" memories through meditation, sleep, or hypnosis. I suggest mediation myself, as the other two can give you scrambled results.

* Those who reach a higher level of mastery over the Inner Self can even compile pieces of their damaged DNA and reconstruct fragments of it, over a long period of time and very focused work. At the very, very least, your work with this can open the "genetic doors" to your offspring;

The Inner Self is mostly a regulatory and defensive mechanism.

Now why the "dark-side"? Or the twisted, disturbing nature people prescribe to it?

Its when people disconnect with both the Higher Self, and the medium state, that they loose touch with all emotion, including fear, and they are stuck with mental patterns that start pouring in from the iD. The iD is the disorganized part of the psyche, and is filled with very, very abstract thoughts. Naturally, being in contact with the Higher Self, when disconnected with both the medium state and the Higher Self, negativity starts amassing at a great rate, and the abstract thoughts, coupled with that translate into things that are morbid, disturbing, twisted, horrid, and/or just plain sick.

This happens only when the disconnection is complete, and the "Fall" in the iD psyche zone is very high (or 'low' on the psychological spectrum, if you will, for a better visualization). This is the mind and behavior sociopaths, psychopaths and mass murderers assume. And it seems to also be a feature many of the PTB have too.

With a complete disconnection of the Inner Self, and the medium state, you are a walking target. Overdrive of emotions, frequencies, energies and thought patterns you cannot decipher or you feel are negative, the fear factor can build up to amazing levels, emotional trauma will definitely be present, and if you survive such an attack, you will be emotionally scarred for the rest of your (current) life. Its possible that the effects of it can extend to another incarnation as well.

A balance between the three states is needed in order to be able to open yourself to everything, and also hide yourself to everything, whenever you feel like its necessary, or that the situation demands it.

We are conditioned to hate that part of ourselves. For some reason.

As to the answer to your question, Manny, the 'Dark Knight' is something I have seen in a mirror while I was meditating regarding my Inner Self. I have also seen a white wolf when meditating on the Higher Self too (but haven't used an avatar to represent that one - yet). Its nothing that actually spells out who I am as a person, as it takes more than that to feel you know all that is to know about somebody. The Dark Knight might represent my iD too, who knows. I haven't let any aspects of my Self to take over completely, I maintain my balance. And I'm grateful for my contacts teaching me the importance of this balance. Not just for this, but balance and moderation in everything. Like maintaining yourself in a "Spiritual Goldilocks Zone", not too "dark", not too "light", but just right :).

I hope the present avatar doesn't scare anyone ;P

And I don't remember saying anything about the All Seeing Eye of the Pyramid giving me warm feelings Rocky. I might have been referring to something else.

I do have a strong resentment for those who are on control of the world. Those at the very top mostly. The 'white hats' in these ranks are usually in the lower echelons of the hierarchy. I have some basic respect for them, but not something I would praise. I'd rather have them work with me, on some of my projects. Being shoulder to shoulder with people on the right side, and actually directly participating in something that is a positive and beneficial as a change to the present vile domination of the planet.

EDIT:

Are you are referring to my comment about the "Eye of God" nebula? Everytime I see it, it gives me a nice vibe.

For those who wanted to know (asked me such questions), yes, I do take notes when I'm with them, because there is too much going on at the same time, and you have to work in between experiencing things and writing things down, either as you see them, or as you saw them. Sometimes in order to write it down i have to take a few seconds away from what I'm experiencing/seeing. How can I share it otherwise?

Sometimes for certain things I just remember it, and I don't find a need to write things down. Usually when there are details or concepts that I do not understand fully (or at all), and I take some notes. Take it this way, if you saw a ... say ... a pink elephant, who maybe except for the color had other different features on it that you would need to remember, but from the amazing set of circumstances and the experience, your mind goes in a state of awe, and you try to remember as much as you can from what happened, and you try to write certain details down, either right away, or later.

There has been some criticism involving my contacts from members both on the forum, and elsewhere. Especially regarding their social lives, and some things that they didn't like. I'm not gonna quote them using a username or a messenger ID, but I'll use the nick of one member here, who actually designed his question in such a way, that it was most respectful out of all, and it showed a true curiosity as to the meaning of certain things. Yes, GlassSteagallfan, its you.

I cannot defend their social designs as I haven't lived in one, in order to fully understand how one individual feels, existing in a such and so system/society. As our systems have been subject to criticism for such a long time, I personally feel we also have the right to criticize some of them, and their own social systems. So yes, I sort of agree with all the people who addressed this matter. What I don't agree is, that they voiced their opinion so harshly (as I'm the aliens themselves), and criticizing me, for not criticizing - them. Its a bit odd that a lot of people did that, so I guess its in some way, logical that I was to form some kind of critical opinion (which I have, long time ago, by the way), but I wanted to stay out of that whole thing, as I didn't think it was necessary. I don't think my own personal opinion matters much, but yes, I have expressed my own criticism, for which most of them welcomed it, and others got angry about it (which is also understandable to me), and have refused to contact me again in the foreseeable future (also understandable, since pride is not an exclusively human emotion). My other contacts have said that this is not definite, and its only a temporary thing till things between me and those who got upset settle down.

Yes, this may come to a surprise to some, as I have explained my relationship with these beings as probably somewhat "perfect", even though it wasn't (as there is no such thing as perfection in my opinion). There have been tons and tons of disagreements, especially when I was a kid, as kids can be pretty blunt and rebellious sometimes, and from all the excitement, I had a bit of trouble calming myself down, or sit in one place for over a minute a time. Also a lot of the time when I wasn't paying attention too. Like they explain to me which types of planets would be suitable for human habitation in the future, and I'm glued on the window watching planets and stars. There have been a lot of arguments, but like any type of relationship, there are points where the people involved get in disagreements or arguments about things, so, I don't think this, even though an unconventional type of relationship, would have been exempt from that.

Now, to address some points GlassSteagallfan/Paul, made.

Hierarchy-wise, they have reached a spiritual level, where they are not bothered with being "on top" of the hierarchy, or at the very lowest. They continue to work on the behalf of their entire culture, and when time comes for the productivity, devotion and achievements are "weighed on a scale", some of those might actually be put close to the top, or at the very top of the hierarchy in their society. I'm assuming you were talking about the clan-based society of the mekodem, where a hierarchy is formed based on votes for most productive family/clan?

As far as subservient races go, I believe you meant the creatures the volmari use, in order to 'sense' reality as it is. The subservient creatures, in turn for attaching themselves with the Volmari, and becoming subject to their will, get an increase in intelligence and sapient understanding. There is an ongoing process of convincing the volmari to loosen up the strict will-based bonding, but to make the bonding less intrusive and more equalized. A lot of the civilizations out there have problems, some similar to the problems we have as society, some quite alien and not comprehensible to us. Nothing is forced down somebody's throat, but there is always mentorship involved. That's pretty much the only problem the volmari have, they are otherwise a very advanced, and productive alien culture, helping in securing many worlds out there.

In terms of mankind, the corporation thing has to go because people start to become more and more frustrated about that as time goes by (otherwise they can get critique, but not ask you to change the system etc.). But since there is an opposition to that, they think we need to deal with it, if we don't like it. But when it comes to a one world government, they say that we have demonized the word to a very great extent. A lot of cultures out there have a system with one single governmental body set in place. The thing is, the demonization of the term exists in the first place because of the people who stand behind the plan to introduce this one global government, and all the details that follow in their plans. And a lot of people, because of that, have started to hate the type of system as well, not only those who are trying to implement it. The system itself is not bad, its how spiritual, dedicated, and responsible the people who will stand as representatives of that government, are, as individuals.

Yes, with those who are pushing the current agendas, we won't like the system one bit (given we are some of those who survive the population reduction, and given it goes to great lengths as they plan to get it to). For example, I wouldn't mind somebody like Martin Luther King and Mahatma Gandhi being part of such a system, because they have shown to the world what kind of people they are, and that they do care about mankind as a whole, through their lives' work. Unfortunately, we are sort of in a shortage of such people today. Those that I mentioned, are not alive today, to be able to be elected perhaps, given we reach a state of, some kind of, 'freedom'. I think most of you are getting the idea that I'm trying to get across.

The people involved need to be replaced by us. The system should be created, by us. Their role can be criticizing, mentoring, and showing successful models of societies who have lasted longer (chronologically, than we, so far). Maybe systems that would benefit us, as we have a certain general behavior, or psychology, that is different than them. A successful system out there, does not mean its gonna be successful for us. Vice versa too. But I believe in their experience too. They have been longer in existence than us, so logically, they know a few things better than we do.

And, speaking of existence, I really like Realeyes's post, regarding the O.B.E.s and 360° vision. It reminded me of something I wrote in the post about DNA, regarding the shadow-body. I think this might be a coping mechanism created by the consciousness inhabiting the body in order for the consciousness and the body stay connected via something that is a combination of both, but not having the same density level as either of them. I'm referring to what you said about observation, when one has an O.B.E., that people still have a focused vision like they had when they were in their actual body, and are able to move parts of their body etc. Maybe this is the astral body? Also, an interesting connection with the 'orbs' people see today. Maybe they are somebody else's consciousness traveling around? Having a 360° vision? Just fascinating! Thanks for that comment. What do the rest of you think? Have you guys caught orbs on camera? And Realeyes, I love that little poem (can I call it that?) you typed. Yes, it does sum up what I was talking about.

I spoke about systems and social designs a paragraph or two before this. Yes, we will need to create a system of our own, and Pilgrim asked me which of these systems would be closest to us, also which culture of those I mentioned would be closest to us, technologically as well. I think a type of anarchy-based society would be the best. Now what do I mean by that - a system where there is no centralized government, and human decision making, because it seems whoever sits on the throne, assumes a role of 'God' and plays with the rest of the world. This way, even those who have issues with authority, being too much regulated by all kinds of laws, or have lost the desire to trust a government like we have had so far, and want something else, everybody, would be pleased. Or at least see it in a way that its refreshing. Rules will still be there, but in a lesser number, created responsibly, and made by everyone, reaching a consensus (not a majority vote, leaving others dissatisfied). People will feel free again, to do (almost) whatever they want (there has to be some limits, I'm sure you will all agree). Also, we need to become less materialistic and territorial. Owning several homes, cars etc., is not good. For anyone. I will need a separate thread to discuss the future of society and possible forms of social systems that we could "try out" and see where it takes us. I can't sum everything up in one post.

Regarding technology, I will have to make it a double answer, as you didn't specify if you were interested in comparing us, with them, with the technology available in the public sector, or the overall technological progress, that has advanced achievements done in secluded areas, by private groups.

In the already known technology, used everyday, we can be compared with a civilization, that is also humanoid, and somewhat human-looking too, that lives on a planet in the system of Eta Cassiopeiae. They are actually slightly less advanced than we are, but have intercepted a few of our radio transmissions in 1955. They are still researching what was that they intercepted, and interesting mysteries have formed surrounding that event.

I don't know of any other civilizations (for now) that are close to the same technological advancement as us. Of those who I mentioned in that post you quoted, the Epsilon Eridani would be the closest to us in advancement (although far more advanced than us), but, in comparison with the rest of the cultures that I listed in that post, they are the closest. Regarding our apex minds here, I think I can personally take the freedom to assume that, even though hard to comprehend, our scientific minds would be able to pull it off and understand the concepts behind some of these societies the extraterrestrial cultures have adapted to living in. The easiest one to grasp? Perhaps those having a commonwealth-type system. In terms of clean energy, I will need more time to figure that out myself. I think biological way to clean our environment would be the best. Maybe a strain of genetically engineered trees that would consume carbon-dioxide and release oxygen at a higher rate than normal. Maybe a bacteria that can "rot" plastic and other things made from other forms of polymers, that the global junk is made of. What worries me is the higher introduction of nuclear energy, and thus, nuclear waste. I haven't talked to them about it - yet, but I personally have no solution for that. Burying it under the sea or underground is no solution if you ask me. I just got an idea for another thread - topic being discussion and exploration of alternatives to energy, and exploring sollutions for pollution and contamination.

They say we are using fossil fuels in a period where the CO2 is in the period where its rising (they say this happens periodically in time, on this planet), and that we barely have any role in that, but we are doing it in a very bad timing. And its why we need to turn to alternatives. When the CO2 starts to decrease, we can go back to fossil fuels again (given there is enough time for them to form underground), but they don't see any efficiency in that, and if we have survived a period in time where we have found other ways to collect and consume energy, that we won't have any need to go back to the "old ways". They have proposed something we can tap into using current, publicly available technology. Solar power and geothermal power. Each in abundance on Earth. I have based a project regarding this, involving building a new experimental city one day, using these energy sources. They have tossed orgone energy in the mix, but they think we are way too young a culture to be using that source today. Maybe in future. Pilgrim, I'll have to discuss this further in another thread. I need to hear what people think in general about some of these proposals.

And in regards of the role of the culture from Tau Ceti, influencing the Slavic & Pre-Slavic nations on Earth, I will expand on it more on the Ancient History post. So, be on alert for that.

There has been questions pertaining to the Nibiruans and what they think of us, along with other cultures' opinion on us as a species, the quote of which, I used, is from Etherios.

Genetically, we are related very much to them. In a genetic sense, they do think they 'own us' (more or less). Both groups .Knowing that most of the genetic material we have today, is from them, I understand why they would think that way too. Doesn't matter much to me, I don't agree with their view anyway. I'm part of a species, and even though I understand the origin of such an attitude, I still vouch for my own species and no other, and of course, my unconditional support goes exactly there.

As I said, I don't agree with that philosophy, but I understand the psychology behind that. They have went through similar things as a culture. Its normal for them. But if we are somehow made to choose - I would be more fond of the En-ki side of the beings. They are the ones who helped us a lot in ancient times, and who created some of the first human prototypes. Let's put it this way - The En-lil side thinks of us as pests (as they have lost interest in maintaining us, and don't like us one bit - they want the planet), and the En-ki side sees us the way we see primates. Not a very complementary picture, but if you compare that to how we view primates you would understand. We might see the primates as undeveloped species, with a lot of faults, but also with a lot of interesting qualities, otherwise we would have no interest in them. Primates also have a complex social system, and interaction, and they are sentient animals close to reaching some form of pre-sapience. We are looked upon in that fashion, and we have "mimicked" (just like primates mimic human behavior) some of the behavior they had and in time incorporated it in our society (probably the materialism and lust for gold is explained now), and we are considered on the brink of reaching a level of awareness close to the one they have. If I have to choose, I'd rather be looked down upon as a smart animal/pet, rather than a pest that needs to be eradicated.

This is probably a question we need to ask ourselves - How exactly should we look upon, and treat, other animal species? If we don't like to be looked upon and treated in a certain manner, how should we look upon and treat, other animal forms?

We may not agree with certain views the ETs have. Its important to understand where those views come from, and why they exist at all.

There are other ETs out there too, that see us no different than we see ants. They go from planet to planet, find something interesting, take it, and leave it. Or take over the environment and walk over us as we would when we are entering an "ant-owned" territory and their nest. How many of you watch every single time you step on the ground not to squash a bug or step over a "rushing" snail? I wouldn't bet its a large number. Its bad to be aware somebody views us that way, but in the end, it seems that this is how the universe works. luckily, most of those cultures, that have this type of viewpoint, are pushed aside from places where young, poorly developed, and emerging species live. Part of the Kuiper Belt alien presence is just that - protection from hostile invasion, and preservation of a species.

Once we clear our planet from all the negative presence on it, both human and alien (which will happen eventually), we would change the status of our planet from "Quarantined world" to "Protectorate world", and assigned a class next to that designation, emphasizing the level of diversity and rarity of life forms on it. We should get a higher class designation, since very few worlds in the local area of the universe have such a diversity as our planet.

The En-ki side values this planet, but they don't want it for themselves as part of their stellar expansion, especially if there is a species reaching maturity in development.

I see there has been some confusion surrounding my usage of numbers here, and its perfectly understandable. When I was a kid, in school, we were taught to write numbers with more than three digits with a fullstop symbol after the third one. And for numbers with a decimal point - a coma. The only place where we don't break down numbers with more than three digits is when we write a date (year 1991 - for example, or November 11th 1991 etc.) and nowhere else.

If its a lot of confusion I can assume a different style of typing the numbers, juts let me know. I also understand the confusion with 'billion' and the 'million millions' thing, so I will write every date fully in numbers from now on so as to avoid confusion. Just let me know if you prefer I use comas or periods when writing numbers.

Thanks for pointing this out Hughe, and thank you for the explanation Dionysus and Vibrations.

To answer your question - if I understood it well: Yes, there is a 'Reptoid' species that was provolved here, on this planet, but was later transported to Sol B. They have visited this planet till 2003, and after that visitations from them have been forbidden. Other groups who are regressive and hostile in nature can sometimes open gates and enter the planet (mostly underground), and also communication done with technology, not face-to-face one).

They are somewhat similar to those theoretically hypothesized to have existed by ... I forgot his name. Those in the picture comparing the Troodon and its "evolved form". They say it wasn't the troodon by the way, who was provolved, but another raptor species.

MariaDane asked me what I think of the 'Galactic Federation of Light' or more correctly, the two of them that seem to be co-existing at the same time. I guess that makes three then? Two Galactic Federations of Light and one that is only a Galactic Federation. None of which my contacts know about, but find it funny that they have their cultures' point of origin mentioned as being members lol.

The one where the Orions claim to be part of, I dunno. I don't like them, and it would be evident to anyone if they know about the Orion Group, and their reputation. There are a few star systems in the Orion constellation (that I currently know of) who have benevolent inhabitants on them, but neither are part of any recognized association of developed cultures, and the 'Allied Worlds' too.

The other assumes the Pleiadians as being the "head" of it, I think? I don't like them much either, as their intentions seem to be very strange and awkward. I think that some of them are pushing religion too far, and taking the overpopulation myth as a reality etc. - i don't like it. That is not to say that I don't think some of the Pleadian groups are benevolent though (like those of Merope and Maia stars). Bu I don't think they are part of any federation.

Maybe they use "Galactic Federation" as a term to explain some other association they may have. But they are not part of the 'Allied Worlds' ever since Atlantis happened.

You will have to give me more information in order to base some conclusion on this.

Regarding implants - they can be placed on either side of the hip. Usually if you are right handed, they will place in on the left hip and vice versa. A lot of the implants can be placed in extremities (arms, legs) above the knee, or below elbow. Toes can be target too. A prominent place is also the sides of the torso, below the rib cage. A rare place, but has happened, is probing the forehead (I don't, and neither do my contacts know for sure, but they speculate it can be connected with the so called '3rd eye'). If you haven't consented for an implant, there is a greater chance that the 'prober' does not have you or best interests in mind.

Regarding the Ankh, try old Phoenician. You should get a "snake" reference in the meaning. Ever wondered why the pharaohs not only held an Ankh, but had a snake "coming out" their forehead?

An interesting reference has been made by Billyji regarding the 24 civilizations that have been part of the "teams" that created us (Connected with this is also a post made by Gong, that I will partially answer to here). I don't know the details, as I haven't studied the Bible in detail only some passages that have been mentioned by my contacts. But on my latest contact that was on the 17th this month, they did tell me some pretty interesting things and details regarding us and our creation, as I told them that I was to post about it soon on the internet. They also corrected me on a few things that I had been wrong about before. Before this contact happened, if I was to answer your question, I would have dismissed the whole "root races" thing etc. But it seems that there was about a dosen different human species created back then, who with mixing have remained only 4 distinct variants today. I will talk about that more in the Ancient History post (its still incomplete).

Alteans might be a a form of the word Atlantians, a Pleiadian group from Atlas, who actually was the first to establish Atlantis from the cultures who were involved there. The Ashans could be those groups who were first to arrive and establish colonies on Ashaolon (Antarctica). Elarthin is similar to a designation I have heard about regarding an amphibian race who I know as Elarathon, but they haven't been involved with our creation as far as I know. Still interesting nonetheless. I have no information on the names of the rest you listed. Its quite possible that they are names of cultures who were involved with our creation, but bearing a different name then those I know of.

Maybe you would recognize some of what I will talk about in the 'Ancient History' post, and then correct me on it. I'm talking about, appearance-wise. Also the various kinds of human variants that have been created/provolved, and later some survive, other go extinct etc.

Now for a more fuller answer to you Gong, I think you might be interested in where some of the particular features come from. For the different human sub-ethnicities, like the Africans and Asians. I have already mentioned in smaller posts in the forum that our current skin pigmentation is a result of exposure to several factors - radioactivity, change of mineral consumption, and genetic manipulation and tampering with our genes. The appearance is mostly influenced by the first factor - radioactive degradation. The darker skinned races used to have a fierce red skin, and the majority of the light skinned races had green skin pigmentation. The lighter the skin, the larger the genetic decay from the original form. The middle-eastern people being the ones on the scale of those with once red skin, and the Caucasian from the groups who had green skin. I had huge arguments with them about this, as as one can imagine, the Ego didn't like to hear things like that. But in time I got used to the thought of it - as I saw things as they were back in the past (they had to show me to convince me). I spent so many nights crying about this, as to why it happened, and it didn't help much with my self-confidence and self-esteem, which was very low back then to begin with, and then this ... I went through some serious dark periods of depression in my life, and this was one of them.

Anyway, the Asian slanted eyes are a trait that was present in a group that colonized Rigel and Mintaka, long time ago. The Procyons have them too. And speaking of the Procyons, they have in their mix of cultures a lot of dark-skinned people too. Some close to the South American cultures of Earth. in Alpha Centauri, there are people who have tanned skin, among the majority who are Caucasian. Sirius has very tall humanoids who are with black skin, among the various other pigmentations (blue, orange, red, etc). The vegans have really dark brown skin, but they have Caucasian facial features. A group from Barnard's Star have darker skin color. They also have full lips and broad noses just like Africans. Those from Tau Ceti, even though they have slight tan on their skin, they also have broad noses, and so do some of those from Procyon. Those from India seem to have been at least partially influenced by blue-skinned ETs - either from Amufar (Lyra), Sirius or from some of the cultures of the constellation of Andromeda. The curly hair comes from a race of small stature humans from star systems in the Hyades star cluster. Orange/red hair is a trait I have only seen in Pleiadians, and more present in the Procyons.

Anyway, stay alert on future posts, I could expand on this. I understand the education regarding the whole geographical regions and climate changes associated with it. But you don't change facial features in the process unfortunately. Not that fast anyway, in terms of our evolutionary timescale.

The dinosaurs were first designed on Mars (and I think geologists and archeologists would find the planet very, very interesting), then transported here, along with some of the flora. The martian soil was not very fertile and potent (words used by them), and the Earth's soil was a lot better, after terraforming, plus there was a greater territory, so a lot of different species were brought, and modified to live here. Mostly the mammal life. I will explain in detail about this in future posts. This became too long lol.


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[Rocky_Shorz]

I did like the flow of this reply message...

thanks again for everything you are sharing...

[Flash]

From Oxynight

One of the responses were about the nature of the universe, and its creation. I was told another analogy about it. Let's assume for a moment that the universe is a 'programmed outcome', or a form of "simulated reality", as imagined by somebody/something. We would be the program's encoded structures that were designed to be, or to occur, if you will. Somebody's idea of something. Let's call it existence. Can we say "God" is a programmer? Maybe, if 'it' was conscious about what 'it' was doing. But a conscious being/intelligence, of such a nature (omnipotent), would likely run multiple simulations and change things when they occur, things 'it' finds as "excess" in the "program outcome" or "unnecessary".



So funny, Oxynight, because once my beloved daughter asked me what was or who was God. Not knowing what to answer to a 7 or 8 years old, I answered: God is you with your Sims (a computer game girls love). We are the Sims or God. Therefore God can create planets, human, houses, families and gardens, as you do with your Sims. When her Sims did not work, there was a virus in God's creation and we (Sim's Gods) had to correct it.

She understood very well. Why? May be because at an earlier age, when she had ask me "what about junk food, it is good stuff", I had answered that she is the God of her cells, and that she would not like to have a pile of poison - sh..t poured on her, neither her cells. When she eats junk, her cells scream "Please, please God, don't do that, send us good stuff instead".

thank you Oxynight

[kersley]

Wow. Absolutely amazing. Can I have the first signed copy of your book? ...lol

[Hughe]

There are two ways of cleaning radioactive waste. One is to use frequency, the other is to use chemical reaction. I prefer the frequency method which John Hutchison has been doing. It makes sense to me. All the matter exists as waves so that change the wave pattern transform / eliminate certain property of radioactive material.



dioxide and release oxygen at a higher rate than normal. Maybe a bacteria that can "rot" plastic and other things made from other forms of polymers, that the global junk is made of. What worries me is the higher introduction of nuclear energy, and thus, nuclear waste. I haven't talked to them about it - yet, but I personally have no solution for that. Burying it under the sea or underground is no solution if you ask me. I just got an idea for another thread - topic being discussion and exploration of alternatives to energy, and exploring sollutions for pollution and contamination.


Most aliens have underestimated the level of technologies human possess nowadays since late 1950s. Of course, I'm talking about the free energy / propulsion technologies that has been hidden, suppressed, developed under secret programs. The irony is some esoteric technologies transferred by other group of aliens.

Which one we look at the levels are very. Some might be hundreds years ahead, some of them might be thousands years ahead.

For alternative energy solution, just building a Tesla tower in a community is a good solution. It is safe and not dealing with space-time manipulation. It's collecting electricity in atmosphere such as the lightening. Lightening exert huge amount of electricity instantly, this technology sipping electricity and accumulate for distribution.

I personally disagree with burning any types of elements, especially water. Using water as main source of fuel will be disaster. Imagine billions of cars burn water nowadays.

Any members who like to get broad insight of alternative energy solution, check out
WADE FRAZIER : A Healed Planet
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet
Brian O'Leary's interview
http://projectcamelot.org/brian_o_leary.html

How about anti-gravity vehicle that travels space with free energy?
Otis T. Carr perfected it late 1947.
Aquamarine Dreams:
Ralph Ring and Otis T. Carr
http://projectcamelot.org/ralph_ring.html

My concern is when will the general public aware of these hidden technologies that should be used for humanity?
IMHO, some of propulsion technologies humans have under secrecy are advanced than few alien species that do interstellar travel.

[divine_moments_of_truth]

Very interesting, a little more elaboration on the skin pigmentation would be helpful though.

[OnyxKnight]

I forgot to add this on the previous post.

I remember somebody (don't know who) asked me on Skype about the size of the stars these beings come from in comparison with our sun.

I couldn't find size comparison images for each star (as some are not well known), and instead I found a very interesting online computational engine, that helped me quite a bit for this matter. Its mainly for use of mathematics, physics, conversion tools, and chemistry, but it has a small 'astronomy' section on it.

It doesn't have size comparison for all stars, but for most of them - yes.

Here it is:

The more smaller stars:

http://www4c.wolframalpha.com/Calculate/MSP/MSP31819ffg3a4084gbfb7000032415ff2575bi3h9?MSPStoreType=image/gif&s=3&w=430&h=264

The more giant stars:

http://www4c.wolframalpha.com/Calculate/MSP/MSP89719ffg260gi53i7fi00006739085118fic6i2?MSPStoreType=image/gif&s=27&w=375&h=251

The redder the star, the cooler the temperature (the lower spectral class as well), the bluer the star, the hotter the temperature (the higher the spectral class).

[DNA]

My previous demonic avatar ... :)

Yes, it kinda disturbed a lot of people, and made them ask questions about it, since I'm not exactly like the image I portrayed, character-wise. At least I don't think I am, am I? :D

We all hear about our Higher Self I believe? Right? And everything is fine with that, but those who teach you spirituality are helping you connect with only one aspect of yourself, not completely. In addition to the Higher Self, there is the Hidden Self, or the Inner Self. I think I discussed this with a member of Avalon, through PMs (not sure who that was).

The Inner Self is also what some may refer to as our dark-side. We all have it. There is no single human being that doesn't. Its wrong to focus on the Higher Self all the time, in every situation, as it severs the link between your Higher Self and the connected medium state, and the Inner Self. I guess because its called an Inner aspect of our Self, it is deemed "hidden" or "dark". Its not necessarily something "evil"/negative like the term might suggest.

I'll explain some attributes of it:

* With the Inner Self, you can shut off all emotions in an instant, or activate them in a normal working manner, instantaneously. This can come in handy in certain situations where circumstances might need you to be less responsive, less stimulated, and show less or no emotions. Sometimes emotions can give away what we think or feel at the moment, which can make us vulnerable, in the eyes of some. And we live in times where we cannot afford the luxury of showing that all the time and to everybody, especially if they don't have our best interests in mind. In that case, they will probably use/abuse your state to a point where they will break you down as a person.

* The fear-factor. A powerful tool to both assume power, control and dominance, but there is another side where the same feeling of fear can save your ass. It has done so innumerable times throughout history (not only our history, but any other life forms capable of understanding danger, risk, imminent death etc.). This Inner Self allows you to turn on or shut off your fear. In a normal mode of behavior, our Inner Self usually allows us to experience fear most of the time. Sometimes an overreaction of it leading to paranoia/hysteria etc. In stations where one could be scared, with the fear-sensation being shut off you can allow yourself to act in a way according to the situation you find yourself in. One with a mastered Inner Self control, can easily not only escape the claws of the 'Reptoids' and the 'Grays' but also if with enough intelligence manipulate them to a degree where you can remain in a conscious state and examine the surroundings (maybe see if its not a real encounter - that its a MILABS work etc.). They will have no choice but to bring you back.

* It also allows you to focus better on certain things and increase concentration, and intelligence in some cases. You can also control your body temperature and also your brain wave frequency.

* You can easily ignore negative intruders into your mind (which are mostly recorded channeled messages), and if the transmissions reach you, they will most likely be sent to you in vain, as you would not be 'listening'. This is like I said, very useful against intruding negative energies, or thoughts (for empaths / telepaths). The Higher Self is the opposite, making you an open door, and an open channel to everything, tuning in to any frequency, feeling, sensation or thought out there that you can "grab". Which is a good thing, if you are open to communicate and willing to share yourself with others. But you need both for safety;

* You can even open hidden, regressed, or "locked"" memories through meditation, sleep, or hypnosis. I suggest mediation myself, as the other two can give you scrambled results.

* Those who reach a higher level of mastery over the Inner Self can even compile pieces of their damaged DNA and reconstruct fragments of it, over a long period of time and very focused work. At the very, very least, your work with this can open the "genetic doors" to your offspring;

The Inner Self is mostly a regulatory and defensive mechanism.

Now why the "dark-side"? Or the twisted, disturbing nature people prescribe to it?



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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tja6_h4lT6A

[arpanet]

The more smaller stars:

http://www4c.wolframalpha.com/Calculate/MSP/MSP31819ffg3a4084gbfb7000032415ff2575bi3h9?MSPStoreType=image/gif&s=3&w=430&h=264

The more giant stars:

http://www4c.wolframalpha.com/Calculate/MSP/MSP89719ffg260gi53i7fi00006739085118fic6i2?MSPStoreType=image/gif&s=27&w=375&h=251

Links don't work. The images created by WolframAlpha are only temporary. You have to attach them here or upload them somewhere more permanent. For example http://imgur.com/ (free and ad-free)

[vibrations]

Hi Onyx

Once again, I have to say I admire your way of thinking - your inner philosophy. The new generation hardware (brain in this case:)) is becoming very powerful. The anterior version (my brain for example) needed years and years of repeated bombarding with one piece of info to start to assimilate new concepts, one by one, little by little and still we have so many limitations.

All your info until now is putting missing pieces in a vague image I constructed about the Universe and it' life. And it was more than 20 years. Now I understand that a lot of information I was seeking for, was to complex to be processed at that time, and with your help I've started to see more light.

I find something interesting about what you said about facial features. Until now I was connecting all different behaviour (or thinking patterns variations) with a racial background as we were "growing" under different suns, with different history etc, so his variables would be some kind of explanation why for example a chinese guy process the information on a different way than I, but now, seeing your thread, some things are more clear. Skin colour is mixing, changing, adapting etc, but the facial feature is the remainder of the true source of persons genetics. Maybe this can help us understand each other more, viewing the other person's way of thinking from the different point of view. A lot more is going on in my brain, so first I have to process (s...l...o...w....l....y) them first.

Thanx a lot for all.

[Realeyes]

And, speaking of existence, I really like Realeyes's post, regarding the O.B.E.s and 360° vision. ..... Also, an interesting connection with the 'orbs' people see today. Maybe they are somebody else's consciousness traveling around?

Hi Onyxknight, (and everyone else reading this thread),
I would like to expand upon my earlier post on the big magic of 360 degree vision but first, I love your new avatar, it made me smile because when I first joined the forum I was originally going to use this photo – it has been my screensaver for many years and it resonates with me too. You will see a connection to this with 360 degree vision with what I write below. Again, Thank you so much for your very informative essay, it must have taken you a while to compose and it is clear that you write from experience. I salute your fabulous mind and memory and how you contemplate what you have learnt and using your own self discernment. I too have had many E.T. contacts throughout my life, but not with so much detail or clarity as you.

I warmly smiled that you contemplated what I wrote about 360 degree vision and how such vision begins with real out of body experiences. This has inspired me to share with you what I have experienced of a higher aspect of 360 degree vision that is getting closer to God/Source.

Via controlled and spontaneous o.b.e.’s, I have experienced an unlimited amount of dimensions that one can travel and explore, each having a different conscious awareness that determines its shape and form. The higher one travels the greater consciously aware the beings become and more spiritually evolved. Within these dimensions are many universes, galaxies, solar systems, planets, landscapes creating a vast variety of entities, species and social systems etc.

I have an immense curiosity and after exploring a realm, I wonder what exists above this. Realms/dimensions are separated by what I will loosely call an energetic web and feels like pushing through a fine spiders web, ‘popping’ through and ‘arriving’ into the next realm. Continuing to do this, there comes a point when one finds oneself in a ‘Blue Energetic Grid of uniform squares’ that spans further than the 360 degree vision can see. This Blue Energy Grid has it’s own conscious awareness of sorts and will automatically read my energy fields around me (me being an orb) creating a shimmering affect in the Blue Grid square I am in, where instantly ‘reality’ of ‘shape and form’ instantly appear giving me the experience of a Time/Space continuum. The reality I witness will be frequency specific to my energy fields; if someone else entered into this energy square, they would witness/experience what was frequency specific to their energy fields – i.e. the realities and experience would be different.

Raising my conscious self above this Blue Grid, I will find myself in an Energetic Gold Grid that is the higher aspect of the Blue Grid and a deeper level of Oneness. There comes a point when suddenly I find myself in a deep Space Void of blackness, but is actually very much alive and conscious. There are no grid squares in sight just me floating in this Void as an Observer with immense observational abilities (360 degree), I am a Divine Presence with immense conscious awareness of SELF. I cannot see myself (no mirrors), because I am consciously inside of myself, yet likened to a big eye. As I adjust and accept this new state, I begin to see multitudes of bright lines coming off of me, like 360 degree rays from a star. I am surrounded by these spiralling vortices that don’t quite touch me, maybe a few millimetres gap from me, like synaptic clefts in the brain. On careful inspection they are spinning tunnel vortices that stretch out into this Void into eternity. Having 360 degree vision means I see all of them at once, yet when I want to inspect just one of them, it feels like I am turning my observation towards it, inside myself, but in truth there is no movement.

Now the moment I place my observation into looking right into any one of these vortices longer than a millionth of a second – I instantly ‘arrive’ at the other end of the vortex tunnel – instantly finding myself in a body form experiencing a reality filled with life and activity. These will either be a past, present, parallel or future time frame. Most times upon ‘arriving’, I instantly forget about ‘me’ being the big ‘Eye/Observer, and instantly engage into whatever reality is playing out as if it has always been this, including the body I find myself in. I can remain in one of these realities for any length of time, minutes to years until I suddenly find myself ‘returning’ back to being the big eye again floating in the Void with all these rays of vortices around me. Each time I return back to being the Big Eye there is a part of my conscious self that sort of chuckles that I forgot again of who I really am as I allowed myself to get totally lost again in a reality. There is another part of my consciousness that is relieved to have returned as my whole self again, the big eye/observer/god.

There is a level above this that I discovered, which is an even bigger Void of blackness, yet it is full of coloured specs within the blackness (sorry hard to describe). I exist as one of these minute specs of consciousness. Everything that ever was and ever will be exists here in no form yet the potential ideas of all form – it is a sea of pure Divine Consciousness. It is like floating in the womb of God/Source. Everything is known, so there are no questions to ask. I no longer see the vortex rays around me, or even have memories of lifetimes; it’s as if I am ONE MIND with ALL THINGS, ALL POTENTIALS and NO THINGS all at the same time – it is quite a paradox trying to understand this when in human form, yet when there or should I say in this 'State' of 'Mind', it all makes absolute sense. This as I understand it so far is ‘Creative Source’ or the Mind of God.

Back to existing here in ‘form’ with a body, many people (including myself) who are able to meditate into a deep trance (i.e. lose all sense of their physical body, 5 senses & shutting off this reality) experience seeing a single large beautiful loving eye gazing back at them. N.B. This is not to be confused with the Illuminate eye that is a downgrade of truth bastardised to manipulate and encourage fear and control over others. The eye I and many others have witnessed is not a physical eye; it is seen by our psychic senses in our frontal lobe. This is the big eye/observer I spoke about observing through the spiralling vortex of ‘me’ experiencing this reality. To put this another way, it is my godly ‘I’ (eye) connected to Eternal Source lovingly observing ‘me’. I call this my Greater Observer that exists in the timeless/formless state were All Times are happening simultaneously in a twinkling of an eye. This is what I understand the scientists studying Quantum Mechanics are starting to realise. Their experiments are getting really exciting as they start to understand the Observer (meaning us) effects reality!

I could continue writing loads on this subject because the possibilities of what we can do are unlimited, where Dimensional Travel becomes very obvious for those who wish to contemplate what I have written. When one has obtained self mastery they can travel as they please; there is no need for governments, houses, food, work, social structures, religion, taxes etc – it is absolute self expression of Freedom – free-dancing in the Mind Of God.

Like everyone else, I have not achieved this mastery yet, just had glimmers; I have much to learn and conquer within myself – but with All Time existing simultaneously in the NOW, there is a ‘me’ right now in existence that ‘has’ and ‘is’ doing just this! My mind boggles in all that I have yet to explore! ;)

Simply put in a 360 degree wrap-up - I exist in ‘All States’ simultaneously and it all balls down to ‘me’ engaging consciously with my ‘observer’ as to which ‘state’ of myself 'I' choose to experience! Happy contemplations....... :cool: :rapture:

[Flash]

And, speaking of existence, I really like Realeyes's post, regarding the O.B.E.s and 360° vision. ..... Also, an interesting connection with the 'orbs' people see today. Maybe they are somebody else's consciousness traveling around?

Hi Onyxknight, (and everyone else reading this thread),
I would like to expand upon my earlier post on the big magic of 360 degree vision but first, I love your new avatar, it made me smile because when I first joined the forum I was originally going to use this photo – it has been my screensaver for many years and it resonates with me too. You will see a connection to this with 360 degree vision with what I write below. Again, Thank you so much for your very informative essay, it must have taken you a while to compose and it is clear that you write from experience. I salute your fabulous mind and memory and how you contemplate what you have learnt and using your own self discernment. I too have had many E.T. contacts throughout my life, but not with so much detail or clarity as you.

I warmly smiled that you contemplated what I wrote about 360 degree vision and how such vision begins with real out of body experiences. This has inspired me to share with you what I have experienced of a higher aspect of 360 degree vision that is getting closer to God/Source.

Via controlled and spontaneous o.b.e.’s, I have experienced an unlimited amount of dimensions that one can travel and explore, each having a different conscious awareness that determines its shape and form. The higher one travels the greater consciously aware the beings become and more spiritually evolved. Within these dimensions are many universes, galaxies, solar systems, planets, landscapes creating a vast variety of entities, species and social systems etc.

I have an immense curiosity and after exploring a realm, I wonder what exists above this. Realms/dimensions are separated by what I will loosely call an energetic web and feels like pushing through a fine spiders web, ‘popping’ through and ‘arriving’ into the next realm. Continuing to do this, there comes a point when one finds oneself in a ‘Blue Energetic Grid of uniform squares’ that spans further than the 360 degree vision can see. This Blue Energy Grid has it’s own conscious awareness of sorts and will automatically read my energy fields around me (me being an orb) creating a shimmering affect in the Blue Grid square I am in, where instantly ‘reality’ of ‘shape and form’ instantly appear giving me the experience of a Time/Space continuum. The reality I witness will be frequency specific to my energy fields; if someone else entered into this energy square, they would witness/experience what was frequency specific to their energy fields – i.e. the realities and experience would be different.

Raising my conscious self above this Blue Grid, I will find myself in an Energetic Gold Grid that is the higher aspect of the Blue Grid and a deeper level of Oneness. There comes a point when suddenly I find myself in a deep Space Void of blackness, but is actually very much alive and conscious. There are no grid squares in sight just me floating in this Void as an Observer with immense observational abilities (360 degree), I am a Divine Presence with immense conscious awareness of SELF. I cannot see myself (no mirrors), because I am consciously inside of myself, yet likened to a big eye. As I adjust and accept this new state, I begin to see multitudes of bright lines coming off of me, like 360 degree rays from a star. I am surrounded by these spiralling vortices that don’t quite touch me, maybe a few millimetres gap from me, like synaptic clefts in the brain. On careful inspection they are spinning tunnel vortices that stretch out into this Void into eternity. Having 360 degree vision means I see all of them at once, yet when I want to inspect just one of them, it feels like I am turning my observation towards it, inside myself, but in truth there is no movement.

Now the moment I place my observation into looking right into any one of these vortices longer than a millionth of a second – I instantly ‘arrive’ at the other end of the vortex tunnel – instantly finding myself in a body form experiencing a reality filled with life and activity. These will either be a past, present, parallel or future time frame. Most times upon ‘arriving’, I instantly forget about ‘me’ being the big ‘Eye/Observer, and instantly engage into whatever reality is playing out as if it has always been this, including the body I find myself in. I can remain in one of these realities for any length of time, minutes to years until I suddenly find myself ‘returning’ back to being the big eye again floating in the Void with all these rays of vortices around me. Each time I return back to being the Big Eye there is a part of my conscious self that sort of chuckles that I forgot again of who I really am as I allowed myself to get totally lost again in a reality. There is another part of my consciousness that is relieved to have returned as my whole self again, the big eye/observer/god.

There is a level above this that I discovered, which is an even bigger Void of blackness, yet it is full of coloured specs within the blackness (sorry hard to describe). I exist as one of these minute specs of consciousness. Everything that ever was and ever will be exists here in no form yet the potential ideas of all form – it is a sea of pure Divine Consciousness. It is like floating in the womb of God/Source. Everything is known, so there are no questions to ask. I no longer see the vortex rays around me, or even have memories of lifetimes; it’s as if I am ONE MIND with ALL THINGS, ALL POTENTIALS and NO THINGS all at the same time – it is quite a paradox trying to understand this when in human form, yet when there or should I say in this 'State' of 'Mind', it all makes absolute sense. This as I understand it so far is ‘Creative Source’ or the Mind of God.

Back to existing here in ‘form’ with a body, many people (including myself) who are able to meditate into a deep trance (i.e. lose all sense of their physical body, 5 senses & shutting off this reality) experience seeing a single large beautiful loving eye gazing back at them. N.B. This is not to be confused with the Illuminate eye that is a downgrade of truth bastardised to manipulate and encourage fear and control over others. The eye I and many others have witnessed is not a physical eye; it is seen by our psychic senses in our frontal lobe. This is the big eye/observer I spoke about observing through the spiralling vortex of ‘me’ experiencing this reality. To put this another way, it is my godly ‘I’ (eye) connected to Eternal Source lovingly observing ‘me’. I call this my Greater Observer that exists in the timeless/formless state were All Times are happening simultaneously in a twinkling of an eye. This is what I understand the scientists studying Quantum Mechanics are starting to realise. Their experiments are getting really exciting as they start to understand the Observer (meaning us) effects reality!

I could continue writing loads on this subject because the possibilities of what we can do are unlimited, where Dimensional Travel becomes very obvious for those who wish to contemplate what I have written. When one has obtained self mastery they can travel as they please; there is no need for governments, houses, food, work, social structures, religion, taxes etc – it is absolute self expression of Freedom – free-dancing in the Mind Of God.

Like everyone else, I have not achieved this mastery yet, just had glimmers; I have much to learn and conquer within myself – but with All Time existing simultaneously in the NOW, there is a ‘me’ right now in existence that ‘has’ and ‘is’ doing just this! My mind boggles in all that I have yet to explore! ;)

Simply put in a 360 degree wrap-up - I exist in ‘All States’ simultaneously and it all balls down to ‘me’ engaging consciously with my ‘observer’ as to which ‘state’ of myself 'I' choose to experience! Happy contemplations....... :cool: :rapture:

thank you very much RealEyes,

Very inspiring, a sum up of what I had heard or read in different times or disconnected sentences, all of this in one single page. Bravo! and I think I understood! More than Bravo, you answered quite a few questions that I have had for a while, in a single page.

thanks again

[MariaDine]

And, speaking of existence, I really like Realeyes's post, regarding the O.B.E.s and 360° vision. ..... Also, an interesting connection with the 'orbs' people see today. Maybe they are somebody else's consciousness traveling around?

Hi Onyxknight, (and everyone else reading this thread),
I would like to expand upon my earlier post on the big magic of 360 degree vision but first, I love your new avatar, it made me smile because when I first joined the forum I was originally going to use this photo – it has been my screensaver for many years and it resonates with me too. You will see a connection to this with 360 degree vision with what I write below. Again, Thank you so much for your very informative essay, it must have taken you a while to compose and it is clear that you write from experience. I salute your fabulous mind and memory and how you contemplate what you have learnt and using your own self discernment. I too have had many E.T. contacts throughout my life, but not with so much detail or clarity as you.

I warmly smiled that you contemplated what I wrote about 360 degree vision and how such vision begins with real out of body experiences. This has inspired me to share with you what I have experienced of a higher aspect of 360 degree vision that is getting closer to God/Source.

Via controlled and spontaneous o.b.e.’s, I have experienced an unlimited amount of dimensions that one can travel and explore, each having a different conscious awareness that determines its shape and form. The higher one travels the greater consciously aware the beings become and more spiritually evolved. Within these dimensions are many universes, galaxies, solar systems, planets, landscapes creating a vast variety of entities, species and social systems etc.

I have an immense curiosity and after exploring a realm, I wonder what exists above this. Realms/dimensions are separated by what I will loosely call an energetic web and feels like pushing through a fine spiders web, ‘popping’ through and ‘arriving’ into the next realm. Continuing to do this, there comes a point when one finds oneself in a ‘Blue Energetic Grid of uniform squares’ that spans further than the 360 degree vision can see. This Blue Energy Grid has it’s own conscious awareness of sorts and will automatically read my energy fields around me (me being an orb) creating a shimmering affect in the Blue Grid square I am in, where instantly ‘reality’ of ‘shape and form’ instantly appear giving me the experience of a Time/Space continuum. The reality I witness will be frequency specific to my energy fields; if someone else entered into this energy square, they would witness/experience what was frequency specific to their energy fields – i.e. the realities and experience would be different.

Raising my conscious self above this Blue Grid, I will find myself in an Energetic Gold Grid that is the higher aspect of the Blue Grid and a deeper level of Oneness. There comes a point when suddenly I find myself in a deep Space Void of blackness, but is actually very much alive and conscious. There are no grid squares in sight just me floating in this Void as an Observer with immense observational abilities (360 degree), I am a Divine Presence with immense conscious awareness of SELF. I cannot see myself (no mirrors), because I am consciously inside of myself, yet likened to a big eye. As I adjust and accept this new state, I begin to see multitudes of bright lines coming off of me, like 360 degree rays from a star. I am surrounded by these spiralling vortices that don’t quite touch me, maybe a few millimetres gap from me, like synaptic clefts in the brain. On careful inspection they are spinning tunnel vortices that stretch out into this Void into eternity. Having 360 degree vision means I see all of them at once, yet when I want to inspect just one of them, it feels like I am turning my observation towards it, inside myself, but in truth there is no movement.

Now the moment I place my observation into looking right into any one of these vortices longer than a millionth of a second – I instantly ‘arrive’ at the other end of the vortex tunnel – instantly finding myself in a body form experiencing a reality filled with life and activity. These will either be a past, present, parallel or future time frame. Most times upon ‘arriving’, I instantly forget about ‘me’ being the big ‘Eye/Observer, and instantly engage into whatever reality is playing out as if it has always been this, including the body I find myself in. I can remain in one of these realities for any length of time, minutes to years until I suddenly find myself ‘returning’ back to being the big eye again floating in the Void with all these rays of vortices around me. Each time I return back to being the Big Eye there is a part of my conscious self that sort of chuckles that I forgot again of who I really am as I allowed myself to get totally lost again in a reality. There is another part of my consciousness that is relieved to have returned as my whole self again, the big eye/observer/god.

There is a level above this that I discovered, which is an even bigger Void of blackness, yet it is full of coloured specs within the blackness (sorry hard to describe). I exist as one of these minute specs of consciousness. Everything that ever was and ever will be exists here in no form yet the potential ideas of all form – it is a sea of pure Divine Consciousness. It is like floating in the womb of God/Source. Everything is known, so there are no questions to ask. I no longer see the vortex rays around me, or even have memories of lifetimes; it’s as if I am ONE MIND with ALL THINGS, ALL POTENTIALS and NO THINGS all at the same time – it is quite a paradox trying to understand this when in human form, yet when there or should I say in this 'State' of 'Mind', it all makes absolute sense. This as I understand it so far is ‘Creative Source’ or the Mind of God.

Back to existing here in ‘form’ with a body, many people (including myself) who are able to meditate into a deep trance (i.e. lose all sense of their physical body, 5 senses & shutting off this reality) experience seeing a single large beautiful loving eye gazing back at them. N.B. This is not to be confused with the Illuminate eye that is a downgrade of truth bastardised to manipulate and encourage fear and control over others. The eye I and many others have witnessed is not a physical eye; it is seen by our psychic senses in our frontal lobe. This is the big eye/observer I spoke about observing through the spiralling vortex of ‘me’ experiencing this reality. To put this another way, it is my godly ‘I’ (eye) connected to Eternal Source lovingly observing ‘me’. I call this my Greater Observer that exists in the timeless/formless state were All Times are happening simultaneously in a twinkling of an eye. This is what I understand the scientists studying Quantum Mechanics are starting to realise. Their experiments are getting really exciting as they start to understand the Observer (meaning us) effects reality!

I could continue writing loads on this subject because the possibilities of what we can do are unlimited, where Dimensional Travel becomes very obvious for those who wish to contemplate what I have written. When one has obtained self mastery they can travel as they please; there is no need for governments, houses, food, work, social structures, religion, taxes etc – it is absolute self expression of Freedom – free-dancing in the Mind Of God.

Like everyone else, I have not achieved this mastery yet, just had glimmers; I have much to learn and conquer within myself – but with All Time existing simultaneously in the NOW, there is a ‘me’ right now in existence that ‘has’ and ‘is’ doing just this! My mind boggles in all that I have yet to explore! ;)

Simply put in a 360 degree wrap-up - I exist in ‘All States’ simultaneously and it all balls down to ‘me’ engaging consciously with my ‘observer’ as to which ‘state’ of myself 'I' choose to experience! Happy contemplations....... :cool: :rapture:


http://us.cdn4.123rf.com/168nwm/candyman/candyman0809/candyman080900023/3536150-3d-golden-letter-v.jpg
Have you ever seen one of these ... I mean lot's of these ?
Namasté

[sanjosenian]

thank you very much RealEyes,

Very inspiring, a sum up of what I had heard or read in different times or disconnected sentences, all of this in one single page. Bravo! and I think I understood! More than Bravo, you answered quite a few questions that I have had for a while, in a single page.

thanks again

My thoughts exactly, Flash. Thank You, RealEyes

[Realeyes]

Bless you Flash, MariaDine and Sanjosenian for your inspiring comments, it means so much to me – you have made my day! :kiss:

After I posted this yesterday, I did wonder if I had gone ‘too far’ into the abstract for others to understand. This is the first time I have ever shared this information that took me a lifetime of journeys and experiences for me to fully understand. I spent many hours compiling this yesterday to find the best words available to describe who we really are way beyond having a physical body and personality; this wasn’t easy as words are limited and easily misconstrued in their expression especially when describing things outside of ‘Time’. I am so pleased it was clear to you and rang some ‘inner’ bells! When one ‘gets this’ self-empowering concept/wisdom/truth, life becomes one great magical adventure!
:angel: :rapture:

[MariaDine]

Bless you Flash, MariaDine and Sanjosenian for your inspiring comments, it means so much to me – you have made my day! :kiss:

After I posted this yesterday, I did wonder if I had gone ‘too far’ into the abstract for others to understand. This is the first time I have ever shared this information that took me a lifetime of journeys and experiences for me to fully understand. I spent many hours compiling this yesterday to find the best words available to describe who we really are way beyond having a physical body and personality; this wasn’t easy as words are limited and easily misconstrued in their expression especially when describing things outside of ‘Time’. I am so pleased it was clear to you and rang some ‘inner’ bells! When one ‘gets this’ self-empowering concept/wisdom/truth, life becomes one great magical adventure!
:angel: :rapture:

I see gold light aorund me. Sometimes other «fenomena« happen. Images of various sorts , places, visions of space, fields of flowers, Isles, Cristal buildings,...Tss...I think maybe it's time I should start painting these images that are much like a movie....

Namasté

[loveandgratitude]

This is like a dream I once had, another realm. It reminded me of a place I once knew

http://www.sun-nation.org/Images/celestialvisitationREV.jpg

[Rocky_Shorz]

.

Hi Onyx,

if you are around can you take a quick look at this. we have inbound pulses of dark energy hitting us and wondered if you might know the cause...

Solar Discussion (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?286-Something-Really-BIG-is-Going-on-With-The-Sun&p=233890&viewfull=1#post233890)


Onyx started a new thread with info on the Progenitors (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?21950-The-Progenitors&p=234661&viewfull=1#post234661).

[ndroock1]

Onyx Knight, who are your favorite SciFi authors ? Are you going to publish this ( in the form of a ) story ?!

[Holly Lindin]

I am LOVING this regaling of your story, Onyx! If there's more to tell, please do! This is possibly the most fascinating read I've had on Avalon in quite a while, and I am so grateful for it. And just like many are saying above, I truly resonate with this.

Sometimes you use the phrase "that I contact" when talking about these beings. I realize that, in the beginning, they came to you, but ultimately, NOW, do you call them somehow to contact you? And if so, what method could any of us use in order to call these beings into our lives? It would be just amazing to meet any one of them!

<3

[Billy]

Hi OnyxKnight,
I am pleased to see you speak of the 24 civilizations. Can you comment on the following please.
As far as my research goes the 24 elders that sit around the throne of God mentioned in the book of revelations in the Bible, are the same 24 civilizations that seeded the twelve tribes, This was the latest seeding of Humanity. and there are many sub civilizations that work with the 24.
Have you heard the following names of those civilizations and Can you confirm some of the names of those civilizations.

Alteans. Who seeded the Atlantis.

Hoovans, Who seeded Sumarians, Hebrews, and Jehovah was a Hoovan.

Ashans, Who seeded, Scandivanians, Chinese, Phoencians, and also brought, Music and Art.

Zeneels, who were the Alchemists and Healers.

Other names are. Aragon, Myrex and Mora-Triomne work together, Ancore, Spectra, Zeemed, Zenthorp, Loanness, and Elarthin.

Do you recognize any of those names as members of the 24.

Thank you again for sharing. Much appreciated.


Hello all, its me

I decided I'm gonna answer some questions and explain some things.



An interesting reference has been made by Billyji regarding the 24 civilizations that have been part of the "teams" that created us (Connected with this is also a post made by Gong, that I will partially answer to here). I don't know the details, as I haven't studied the Bible in detail only some passages that have been mentioned by my contacts. But on my latest contact that was on the 17th this month, they did tell me some pretty interesting things and details regarding us and our creation, as I told them that I was to post about it soon on the internet. They also corrected me on a few things that I had been wrong about before. Before this contact happened, if I was to answer your question, I would have dismissed the whole "root races" thing etc. But it seems that there was about a dosen different human species created back then, who with mixing have remained only 4 distinct variants today. I will talk about that more in the Ancient History post (its still incomplete).

Alteans might be a a form of the word Atlantians, a Pleiadian group from Atlas, who actually was the first to establish Atlantis from the cultures who were involved there. The Ashans could be those groups who were first to arrive and establish colonies on Ashaolon (Antarctica). Elarthin is similar to a designation I have heard about regarding an amphibian race who I know as Elarathon, but they haven't been involved with our creation as far as I know. Still interesting nonetheless. I have no information on the names of the rest you listed. Its quite possible that they are names of cultures who were involved with our creation, but bearing a different name then those I know of.

Maybe you would recognize some of what I will talk about in the 'Ancient History' post, and then correct me on it. I'm talking about, appearance-wise. Also the various kinds of human variants that have been created/provolved, and later some survive, other go extinct etc

^ ^ I've decided I'm gonna answer and discuss things this way from now on, still making quotes, but not clogging the post with quote pieces that hang after every paragraph. I hope you guys like this. If not let me know :).

Thank you for responding to my question above Onxyknight. I look foreward to your new history thread for more.

Bless ya.

[Rocky_Shorz]

finally found a good clip of God's Balls after that last enormous solar flash, you can see as the little white orbs pulls back from the sun and start disappearing at the end..

http://sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov/gallery/gallery/assets/movies/SSW_cutout_20110607T0611-20110607T0715_AIA_211-193-171_S22W53.mov

[guyrandom]

I've grown up listening to my mothers story of her childhood abduction experience. As a child listening to this and the details, I've never questioned their authenticity. What is interesting is that one person interviewed by Camelot mentioned a series of shapes that were 'mental control' toys used to test mental ability. That they are supposed to be moved with the mind, starting with a ball, then cube, then triangle; each shape progressing in difficulty. The ball shaped toy on 'the craft' or in 'the place' has always been in my mothers stories so when the interviewee mentioned this I believed him due to the similarity. It still continues in a way, because my mother was told as a child that they'd given her a gift and she'd known what was when the time comes..something I've also come across in other stories and waiting for!

I've never met aliens or seen aliens myself and have no proof or reason to believe other than my mothers stories. Around 6 years ago, 3am in Brigsley, Lincolnshire I did see 10-15 'ufos' dancing strangely in the sky above the head of myself and the person I was with. The moment we focussed on them and watched they rose really high up to the point we could no longer see them. To this day I say I believe in ufo's..but it doesn't mean aliens.

I'd love to say I keep seeing them, I've continued to look for them but no luck. My mother has not had continuous contact with her visitors either. Some people are just really lucky!!

[NeoEmc2]

Onyx my dear cosmic brother, thank you for this thread.

I have been following it ever since you started it and there were no replies. I felt compelled to just say "first" or "replying to an epic thread" lol.

I haven't replied to it because I haven't thought of anything useful to ask you but now I am just wondering where you've been buddy. I hope you are good and that life is treating you well. I hope your space friends are sharing some more interesting and most of all enlightening information with you that you can keep sharing with us.

I very much have enjoyed everything you've written here thus far and in other threads. I hope you come back soon and keep the story going. I find it fascinating. I honestly have not enjoyed reading something so much as I enjoy your story in a long time. Please keep it going :)

PS: If a moderator is reading this, please, if you don't mind, sticky this thread. I'm sure I will not be the only one who will appreciate it. Thanks.

[Positive Vibe Merchant]

I completely agree with you on that count Neo.

This is an extremely interesting thread, and the amount of information, and details is first rate. I think we shuold have an interview with Omniverse and Onyx Night. I think it would be a fasscinating discussion.

PVM

[alxz]

Completely agree with Neo! This has been so far an very fascinating thread. It took me about 3 weeks to read everything as understandable I could. And I just want to thank you OnyxKnight very much for the posts you've made and I hope you are coming back really soon. You are an great inspiration.

Though I dont have any questions right now (forgot em) I'm sure I will be back with some question when I Reread this thread:)
I hope you are doing well.

peace upon your house.

[Newlyn]

Oh! Some more questions!

How about humour? Do other races have it, do they understand it, or is a typical earthuman trait? :)

Have you been in situations where you felt really scared, or worried?

If you been traveling to other planets, that means that you are the human who have been most far from earth?

Well, tell more personal storie about you amazing travels! :)

All the best!

[milkteagirl]

Patiently waiting :biggrin:

[Rocky_Shorz]

any updates on the cradle drop?

that Comet that just smacked our sun setting off flares was natural wasn't it?

[Laura Elina]

I read the whole thread and I find it truly interesting, thought provoking for sure, hopefully the ancient human history post will be up soon, if Onyx is still present here, hope so. However, I do have a couple of questions regarding ancient history of humans... Or maybe I'm thinking completely off topic, along the lines of something else so excuse my lack of knowledge on these things and if I seem a tad naive.

If I remember correctly (and I do apologize, if I don't, this thread is enormous, a lot of information to digest for one sitting :), I believe you mentioned touching upon the subject of spirituality with your contacts? Maybe this question is far too vague to be answered and isn't really something that can be "covered" in this thread, but here it is anyway (I'm having difficulty with phrasing the question without making it too long):

Do you have a recollection of any of your contacts talking about, or mentioning, why there is an effort of (not necessarily trying to "save") human genes or race as a whole from a possible extinction? Is there a certain relevance (and not passing any judgement here on physical superiority of any "race", not really interested in that) with the DNA/genes on a physical level of things that is connected to spiritual awareness and facilitating the process of becoming more aware (or whatever you may want to call it, spiritual evolution)?

Maybe this is a completely silly question, but why is there an affection for occupying certain bodies belonging to a certain race, is consciousness not only consciousness? Is there such a thing as the human or the reptilian or the grey consciousness and a difference between them? And I really do mean these questions in a sincere way) Do we get attached to a certain race and possibly reincarnating back to it? Is it a question of evolving into a group "awareness", a collective soul etc. and these bodies of certain races becoming an important vehicle in doing so and continuing the evolution of that group awareness? I really don't know how else to phrase it.

I know there have been accounts on how certain ET races are trying to save their kind from dying by using the human genome, reviving their own, but why do it? Has it become a matter of surviving as a soul for these races? Why not abandon those bodies and do something else?

I mean, from my point of view (as naive as it may be), the "physical" manifestation of the "source" is a form, so I suppose the underlying question here really is that do certain forms (that the consciousness inhabits or uses, the various manifestations of the sleeping god or the programs we are in this little dream) have a different means of operating within the universe and perhaps different ways of functioning over other forms (that is to say races, human or other ET ones) when it comes to expanding one's awareness, or should I say, one's ability to attain more freedom, or an ability to acquire a different set of rules of the universe so to speak, within the game we are supposedly playing? Leverage? Is it a race to a finish line? And what awaits there?

I believe I read you mentioned some ET races truly find humans a quirky experiment, but that is only the physical vehicle, not our ID that we should be too attached to (whatever we is then, spiritual consciousness, beings), put a reptilian, a grey and a human in the same space and strip away the appearance, I see you and you see me and and all that is left is "I". Why did we come here as souls, why reincarnate to a human body? What does it offer? Why save this experiment? Why not make a new one?

I'm sorry, if this post does not make a whole lot of sense. Perhaps too many subjective questions. I tried my best. Comments?

[Ai-u-que]

thank you for sharing! I found your story very interesting.

[Tigressa]

Dear Onyx-Alexander,
Thank you for sharing your information. This is the first time I can share my story to someone who might understand.

Okay, I have a daughter in Orion. I don't know where exactly. My husband in this life has a concurrent life in Orion. He came through and made a child with me one night. I don't much remember this night properly. But my boyfriend at the time was furious! Asking who I slept with that night? How could I cheat on him? At the time I told him he was crazy. It was only later doing a crystal healing that this information surfaced for me.

Anyway, I apparently was trying with my Orion friend (current husband) to bring a more water-based life to Orion, a more emotional, yin, feminine type of energy. I know now that my daughter there is struggling intensely and is quite suicidal at times. She is a bit better now that I am aware of her. I keep a black crystal in my field that keeps us more clearly connected.

Does this story make sense to you? Can you enlighten me to another to view this scenario?
I have had small experiences of many lives on Orion through crystal trance sessions. I really feel sad and miss my people there, I worry for my girl very badly. I know that she chose this incarnation through me, but I would never choose to have a part in this now I have the experience.

Is there any way I can improve this situation for us both? I have found very little on Orion on the internet that resonates with me. Even a description of a positive experience with or on Orion would be very comforting to me right now.

Am getting a bit teary now, this is a tragic topic for me. Many thanks for your input here.

[Avocadess]

My question is: How have these experiences changed you? Thanks!

[hholder]

Thanks for the awesome info! Have you written any books yet?

[TEEDA]

Hello Onyx-Alexander,
Thank you very much for your experience and your story about your rich and wonderful ET experience.
I skimmed through every of your posts and the information gathered in all of them are really amazing and great.
I hope you are doing well and hope to find you here again when you can and maybe make a update so we can learn more.

[ClandestineDisclosure]

At the heart of the craft we are building are bicone shapes we call Utrons. Awesome post. Thank you.

[WhiteFeather]

Great Stuff Onyx, I read much of it, i will bookmark this thread and read the rest later on. Thank You.....One Question Onyx, Do you know whom LyricusMagna Is?

[Kirsten Merrild]

Thanks for sharing - great.

Love and light
Kirsten

[dan33]

Oh! Some more questions!

How about humour? Do other races have it, do they understand it, or is a typical earthuman trait? :)

Have you been in situations where you felt really scared, or worried?

If you been traveling to other planets, that means that you are the human who have been most far from earth?

Well, tell more personal storie about you amazing travels! :)

All the best!


Hi Newlyn.

I'm sure "positive" aliens have a lot of sense of humor, even higher than us. There is a saying in spanish ..... "a saint sad, sad saint".

Thanks Newlyn (are you in Spain?) and thanks for this wonderful thread Onyxknight , and all of you (I've read it in paper form "from A to Z") :)


and let me put this

"DIRTY ROTTEN SCOUNDRELS is one of my favourite films. There's one scene in particular I just can't resist, where I'm pretending to be an eminent psychiatrist, Dr. Emil Schaffhaunsen, who is slashing the legs of Steve Martin, who's posing as a psychosomatically crippled soldier, to prove they don't work. I had to intersperse each of my words with a lash on the whip: "My name is -" lash , "Dr -" lash, "Emil -" lash, "Schaffhaunsen-" lash. On the second, and final, take I added an ad lib. After "Schaffhausen-" lash, I added, "the Third-" and a final lash to give him one more"
(Michael Caine. Autobiography. From Elephant to Hollywood)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=axAA2egWeaY

[TEEDA]

Oh! Some more questions!

How about humour? Do other races have it, do they understand it, or is a typical earthuman trait? :)

Have you been in situations where you felt really scared, or worried?

If you been traveling to other planets, that means that you are the human who have been most far from earth?

Well, tell more personal storie about you amazing travels! :)

All the best!


Hi Newlyn.

I'm sure "positive" aliens have a lot of sense of humor, even higher than us. There is a saying in spanish ..... "a saint sad, sad saint".

Thanks Newlyn (are you in Spain?) and thanks for this wonderful thread Onyxknight , and all of you (I've read it in paper form "from A to Z") :)


and let me put this

"DIRTY ROTTEN SCOUNDRELS is one of my favourite films. There's one scene in particular I just can't resist, where I'm pretending to be an eminent psychiatrist, Dr. Emil Schaffhaunsen, who is slashing the legs of Steve Martin, who's posing as a psychosomatically crippled soldier, to prove they don't work. I had to intersperse each of my words with a lash on the whip: "My name is -" lash , "Dr -" lash, "Emil -" lash, "Schaffhaunsen-" lash. On the second, and final, take I added an ad lib. After "Schaffhausen-" lash, I added, "the Third-" and a final lash to give him one more"
(Michael Caine. Autobiography. From Elephant to Hollywood)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=axAA2egWeaY

Yes there are races that indeed have humour like the arcturians for example.

[SpookyMulder]

Onyx,

My guts tell me this all genuine, there is absolutely no fakeness in the things you are telling and this is highly captivating!
I can only imagine the beauty of the things you have seen, visualized or heard, felt and touched; in all honesty I feel all that in the deeper depth of my being and beyond.
Thank you so much for coming forward, this is a brave and beautiful act of courage.

In love and Light
SM

[transiten]

Hello Onyx!

Just started reading, resonates fine with me and what i've heard from David Wilcock and others about 57 humanoid ET cultures out there. You mention Sirius. Has anyone heard about "Lost Star of myth and time" by Walter Cruttenden stating our Sun is in a binary relationship with Sirius(which is also in a binary Sirius A and B) and that they now are at their closest, announcing the "Golden Age" to come. Mr Astrotheology Santos Bonacci shows the details on Youtube. The videos are posted in some thread, don't remember which one.

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[lightning23]

:closed::closed:

[EYES WIDE OPEN]

[QUOTE=watchZEITGEISTnow;170110]
2:Also do they speak of other "incidents" in UFO lore we are familiar with - eg the Phoenix lights or Israel dome UFO and explain what they were?

Phoenix Lights - Black Ops testing new craft.

The Israel Dome UFO - Aldebaran orb-probe.


Do you mean this one? http://levelbeyond.com/2011/09/23/israeli-channel-10-proves-israel-ufo-over-dome-of-rock-is-fake/ This was a fake I think.

[humanalien]

First of all, i'd like to say that from all the
interviews that kerry and bill ever did, i
believe you the most. Your either a damn
good story teller or you are telling the
absolute truth and i do not believe that
you are lying.


You use the word Progenitors as the species
that created or seeded all life, am i correct?

Kerry talks about a race of beings called the
wing makers. My understanding of them is that
the real God, created this race to create all
other races in all universes.

Does the wing makers and the progenitors
sound like the same race to you?

Also, have you talked to bill about doing an interview?

[Lucc30]

Than you Onyx for sharing - a lot of information to process.

I am not even halfway through this tread, but my question for you may be presented later along the tread. If so, please ignore my question(s).

You are talking a lot about trading vehicles of all of these beings - and somewhere (can not remember where), I came across the information about getting out of the oppression of the old (pyramidical) hierarchy of trading systems which will still keep us in a suppressed state even though in a more seemingly "friendly", for most people experiencing it as a more docile, calm, "safe", "free" and utopian way of living (willingly ignorantly accepting slavery).

I believe it was some channeled information - and as I have mention to you elsewhere I am a discerning skeptic about channeled information as it may be easily corrupted (truths mixed with disinformation - from elitees and beings cloaked as benevolent) even though I do believe there is genuine, altruistic information coming trough some of these channels.

First question is: these trades with the multi-galactic "corporations" does they still have their structure of the few sitting as the capstone of the trade pyramid and enforce the trickle down system (different form of dependency of some kind of dept currency) of the terra corporations/elite? My personal beliefs makes this ring true. Have you been told about how these system works?

An off topic view - after learning more and more about the use of symbols I have discovered interesting things about what I chose to watch of TV-series and films, I have discovered another interesting thing. In some of these there are short frames of depictions of reversed pyramids in different forms (uplifting - is it not?).

For me this means that there must be some aware groups realizing and trying to tell us it is possible to turn things around - the weight of the reversed pyramid will by every law crush the capstone/marionette-stringcontrollers now on the bottom of the pyramid. Observe and keep an eye out for it for yourselves - it does not show up as often as the upright pyramid - but they exists. White hats inside the industries/those i knowledge?

Back to topic and the next questions: Have you been told about the different kind of "currencies" not based on hierarchy systems?
How does it works - and how does that apply to free will and independence? How have they been implementing it and how can we implement or start implementing it now globally in this phase without running to the countryside and grow our own food or stop using our banking system (in my country it would be virtually impossible to get of the grid, to short space to explain the reasons,
but it is linked to our population being very small and we have been used as pilot marked for a LOT of products; tiny examples: the carbonated energy drink Urge from that unmentionable corporation in addition to the cellphones in the mid nineties costing less than half a dollar to buy a phone)?

Off topic for a short while again: the global (at least the western sphere) economic crisis I hopefully believed it to be a good thing, refusing to pay the bankster families who created the whole scheme - with the Greek people standing tall at the front.
Now I got my doubts (have problems with discernment on this one) if it is a desperate plan (no, not implement a global control currency) to drag down most of whatever they possible can before their downfall.

Topic again: May you ask for, or been given answers to clues and directions for who wants us to be "assimilated" into the trading hierarchy and who wants us to solve most of our differences and learn the true path to spiritual "currencies"?

Long post - sorry for that.

Last off and on topic:
Creativity is our advantage and very empowering – our wild card – our unpredictability as a whole (united - as in coming together as what we are - souls with bodies regardless of races) makes us very unpredictable regardless of supercomputers/AI’s and collective hierarchy from more ”advanced” beings and their pawns calculating the probabilities of outcomes – it is our strength, ethics and values (do you know anybody "average" embracing wars?) – and not easy to control despite personal/individual surveillance and manipulations.
Love is not the easy (gullible) way/ticket out of this situation – it is a powerful, mighty tool – yes, no doubt an we have to use it – but not our ticket to utopia in this 3D world!

Controlling “wild cards” is not to be taken on lightly (by any who may be foolish enough to believe so) – new ideas and solutions – the pro-activeness (more and more people waking up and start asking questions) and unpredictability of the masses - us!
Said it very many times before: the harder the elitees and their shadows try to dupe us - they will make people waking and asking why is this happening to us!

Again - if these questions have been addressed before in this tread ignore my questions as I will spend my day reading trough it.

[WHOMADEGOD]

WOW WOW WOW!

Thank you for your bravery and efforts Onyx.

This is absolutely mesmerising, I really cannot begin to formulate a line of questioning, I feel like a child in a sweet shop for the first time. Your exposure was necessary to provide material such as this to raise collective awareness.

If there is a galactic party please get me an invite and I promise to be on bestest behaviour! Who knows, I may even begin to remember some of them?

Blessings

Mark

[mojo]

Hi Onyx,
I was looking back on some older threads and recalled your thread. Have your contact experiences continued in 2012?

[OnyxKnight]

Hi Onyx,
I was looking back on some older threads and recalled your thread. Have your contact experiences continued in 2012?

Yes, I had a brief one before the New Year, they resumed. But I'm analyzing the information now and trying to fit the data into specific topics that I will address in future. After the contact there has been some massive "surge" of incoming information seemingly out of nowhere, so when I'm not posting on Avalon, I'm probably busy doing that on my PC or on a sheet of paper (writing info down, composing diagrams, drawing illustrations).

When I'm done I'll be addressing the comments and the questions the avalonians asked here. Then I'll start disseminating the information I got recently - I just don't want to rush things.

EDIT:

I just wanted to say thanks to all those who participated on this thread, and for all your patience. I highly appreciate it.

[Selene]

Dear OnyxKnight ~

I have only just recently read this superb thread, so please forgive me for this tardy question:

On another thread, you commented :


Nibiru does not exist…

If so – and I cannot dispute your information - do you have any thoughts on what otherwise, exactly, might be causing current global warming, plate twisting, larger earthquakes, etc?

• Is there some other – described-as ‘Planet X’ ‘brown dwarf’ ‘extrasolar object’ ‘bicentric orbital object’ or otherwise - inbound?

Or:

• Are these changes the result of some ‘galactic wave’ ‘ribbon of energy’ ‘photon belt’ or other description of ‘where we/our solar system is now’ that affects this sector of the energy field in our galaxy?

• Is this caused only by electromagnetic changes to our own Sol?

• Is this purely an internal development of our own planet? (i.e. Human-caused global warming)


• Is this simply a normal internal cyclical behavior of planet Earth?


• Etc?


I’d greatly appreciate any insight on earth changes you can offer here.

With many thanks and kindest regards,

Selene

[apokalypse]

for those interested in OnyxKnight, here's OnyxKnight thread on David Icke forum known as lyricusmagna My ET Contact Experiences (http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=133901) and other various post on David Icke (http://www.google.com.au/search?hl=en&client=firefox-a&hs=n0e&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&q=+site:davidicke.com+posted+by+lyricusmagna&sa=X&ei=1YQvT-XfOuLKmQW4hcn9Dw&ved=0CCoQrQIwAA#sclient=psy-ab&hl=en&client=firefox-a&hs=XLK&rls=org.mozilla:en-US%3Aofficial&source=hp&q=site:davidicke.com+%22posted+by+lyricusmagna%22&psj=1&oq=site:davidicke.com+%22posted+by+lyricusmagna%22&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&gs_sm=s&gs_upl=2663l7155l0l9035l2l2l0l0l0l0l209l405l0.1.1l2l0&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.,cf.osb&fp=fca0a83b641f48f8&biw=1288&bih=685)

[Rocky_Shorz]

with everything Bill is bringing forward right now, I'm sure many would like to question you from experience, to confirm what the whistleblowers are sharing...

glad to see you back...

do you have time for questions now that it is summer?

[Rocky_Shorz]

can you enlighten about these?



A Big Avalonian HELLO to all our (GUESTS)...:wave:

Is this what your LOOKING FOR..?

動物星球頻道【真實美人魚：科學的假設】..."

Translation: Animal Planet [real mermaid: scientific assumptions] ...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GdGBcS0avAU&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GdGBcS0avAU&feature=related

PS - Watch &/or Download before it goes again...

Check Out the rest of the Project Avalon Forum - Plenty of Good info to be found...:yes4:

Thanks Jack. Been searching for this.

[OnyxKnight]

can you enlighten about these?

I don't have the time to watch that right now, But tomorrow when I get up I'll give it a look.

But the mermaid thing, regardless of the documentary/mockumentary, is real. And I believe its extraterrestrial in nature. That's all I can say for now.

[OnyxKnight]

I started watching the video, the sounds that have been recorded (there are several), the sounds are definitely not from any creatures like the mermaids, I can say that much.

[bennycog]

how about the planetoid object discussion onyx mate, whats your take on that and the solar threat?
have you been in contact lately?
cheers,,,

[OnyxKnight]

how about the planetoid object discussion onyx mate, whats your take on that and the solar threat?
have you been in contact lately?
cheers,,,

I'm not sure where exactly I said it, it was on some thread recently ... - There are large objects moving around our solar system, some reaching planetoid sizes. I'm inclined to believe these belong to several groups that had small colonies near Antarctica, and the ETs are leaving the planet for some reason, and boarding these giant objects. The objects are not hostile. One of them is an amphibian species from a star system in the Lyra constellation.

[Rocky_Shorz]

I started watching the video, the sounds that have been recorded (there are several), the sounds are definitely not from any creatures like the mermaids, I can say that much.

could whatever made those sounds be able to knock out a whole pod of whales catching a mermaid in the process?

is it here fishing, or are one of these large crafts using a propulsion system that affects sea-life that way?

could this aquarious species want to bring whales and other sea life back to their planet?

could the mermaid be one of the aquarious species, that was trying to gather a pod of whales and they spooked before boarding the ship and ran ashore?

[Rocky_Shorz]

I was asking questions about who was running the orbs around the sun and was told to pull up this pic...

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=17905


we all say we're prepared, but if a ship lands outside and those dudes start walking out, I'm running... ;)

[ulli]

I was asking questions about who was running the orbs around the sun and was told to pull up this pic...

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=17905


we all say we're prepared, but if a ship lands outside and those dudes start walking out, I'm running... ;)

Can't see the picture...but perhaps that's a good thing....;)

[Rocky_Shorz]

some features stopped working for me lately one is attaching pics, it is in my photo album if anyone is curious, decided to save the .mil image...

message was 1812 D2...

had to think for a while to remember where those pics are available...


this post (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?48184-Incoming-moon-sized-object-...&p=541943&viewfull=1#post541943) is showing the URL and links to pics in my album...

[Rocky_Shorz]

.

remember the doorway you mentioned on the sun...

I might have spotted a gateway that opened for the maintenance crew to come through for the huge filament eruption... right in the center of the screen, a small archway...

download it quick before spaceweather takes it down... link (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?29825-Sun-Stuff-What-s-up-&p=547364&viewfull=1#post547364)

this is a stretch, but is it possible to open 2 gateways to allow the energy to pass from one location to another...

from our sun to the crab nebula, are they able to jump start a star?

massive flares are coming from an extinct star in the center of the crab nebula...

[Rocky_Shorz]

18073


I was asking questions about who was running the orbs around the sun and was told to pull up this pic...

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=17905


we all say we're prepared, but if a ship lands outside and those dudes start walking out, I'm running... ;)

Can't see the picture...but perhaps that's a good thing....;)

no wonder no one commented... can you see it now?

[ulli]

18073


I was asking questions about who was running the orbs around the sun and was told to pull up this pic...

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=17905


we all say we're prepared, but if a ship lands outside and those dudes start walking out, I'm running... ;)

Can't see the picture...but perhaps that's a good thing....;)




no wonder no one commented... can you see it now?

Yeah, I can see it. What is it?

[Rocky_Shorz]

It was a sunflare picture from the .mil site, I asked who was the ones maintaining our sun, I was told look at 1812 D2...

took forever to realize they meant to look on Lasco D2 at 18:12

when I pulled it up this was the picture on the top left of the sun, I zoomed to let everyone see it better, the original is in my photos...

the second movie shows even more, remember the string of lights James showed all of us, this movie that I hope Onyx downloads to see had thousands of lights, it took from the filament and used it to cover Sunspots and the gaping holes solar winds come from. but they didn't just do it to the one we were watching, there was close to 30 large sunspots on the farside image...

every one of them were gone after, like they had crew at every spot...

looking forward to what Onyx has to say about this...

[Bongo]

Cool thread

A few things stood out in your material that Alex Collier has also said.

Niburu entering the solar system under the guise of retrieving their mining equipment & heading for earth.

Alex said that they had requested to come in to the solar system to retrieve their mining equipment from a planet but there was doubts that they were wanting access for this reason & if they headed for earth they would be stopped. This was before it got destroyed since he was talking about it as a future event.

Your description of the ascension also goes along with what Alex has said, that we will be able to perceive more colours & sound. I’m sure the way he explained it saying that we were going in to the 5th dimension was because we humans regard time as the 4th dimension so... effectively we would only be going 1 dimension up as opposed to jumping 2 dimension at a time.

The weak genetics of our race was also covered by Alex, he said the same as you that the lighter the skin the weaker the genetics.

You also say that there was another race from the Andromeda galaxy in the Kuiper Belt Armada that have been very private except from their intention which is protecting the ancients. Could this possibly be the ones in contact with Alex Collier?

Obviously you don’t see the ascension happening the way he describes it but apart from that what is your opinion of Alex Collier’s material?

&

You make some references to what we (humanity) are supposed to be achieving and you put loose dates to those achievements that are in the future, so there must be some way for them to look into the future.

Are they time travellers?
Are they able to see the future without actually travelling in time? how exactly do they achieve this?

[72MAV27]

Just found this thread. Definitely some good stuff. Like most others I feel that u speak the truth and much of what u say resonates with me. I have many questions but will keep it relatively simple.

Have u ever read the thiaoouba prophecy? If so where the main et's in that book any race that you have ever met?

I do have one disagreement with you and your contacts. I have a very high intuitive and "feeling" ability. And I just really feel that that some how some way the people of this planet will become aware that we are not alone in the universe sometime in the very near future. Not sure exactly how it will happen. There are a few different senarios as to how it could play out. (I actually have several bets on it. Lol)

[Rocky_Shorz]

I was shown how the little orbs spotted around Volcanoes, plunge down through the magma deep into the earth in a string up to an already active volcano then transfer energy across to keep a large population center safe...

any idea who it is?

Black ops getting that good?

[OnyxKnight]

Thank you everybody for the wonderful words, encouragement and support! :) I truly, truly appreciate it!



Now, updating the thread with a Q&A session:

(quotations and blue text belongs to questioners, normal color text is mine)




Hi Onix, thanks for sharing your experiences, I have some questions for you if I may:

A) Do the ET's believe in a God or god's as ultimate creator(s)?, do they have any religion whatsoever?

The concept of religion is a bit different than what we would expect from them, if we are to analyze their behavior when this concept is applied in their culture. I haven't seen any present radical behavior for example. Fanatical thought patterns based on belief systems are absent, at least within the groups of civilizations that comprise the 'Allied Worlds'. Its difficult to explain in words, since some of their "belief systems" don't really fit in the definition of what religion is to us, humans. Radical religious behavior was more present in ancient times, when they forced it upon their own culture, and many other cultures, including our own. Somehow, the radicalism in religion, was injected in our species, and has survived till this day, just changing form slightly. The last radical religious "nutcases" involving a civilization that now is part of the 'alliance', were the himjur colonies, on a planet revolving around the Menkent system. They managed to occupy all of the livable planets in the system in a short amount of time, and began to experiment with ethnic cleansing, since many of the himjur people had carried recessive genes of cultures that this group, according to their religion, thought of them as "impure", "degenerative" etc. It didn't help that because of their religion, they had to multiply very often, and thus, they had a lot of offspring, and a lot of this offspring was killed off in ethnic cleanses. You can see why certain other groups had to intervene there, to the point of creating a war conflict between themselves and the fanatic regime, just so the larger population survives the terror of their own people in power.

One of the reasons these people fled from the previous worlds and settled with colonies around planets in Menkent was just that - their extreme intolerance with other cultures. And since the intervenors were of exactly the groups that they hated with passion, war was inevitable. That would be equal to .... lets say, Africans going on their way to stop white racist radicals, from exterminating fellow white people, who carried some mixed genetic background (from Africa), from long ago, when the colonies still coexisted peacefully amongst each other, and breeding among them was not viewed as a negative thing. In my notes, I have signed this as the 'Himjurian Conflict', and named the colonies as "himjur", since they bore no name or special designation among my contacts. I just decided I'd name them after the first radical lunatic, Himjur, who promoted the idea of genetic purity. I wasn't surprised, to later find out, that the descendants of his ruling House, Ajaden, were the basic genetic stock from which the Aldebaran culture emerged from. The same ones who allegedly contacted Hitler, the same who had connections with the Vril, Thule, and the Kamagol crap etc. Avid troublemakers. The repressed and ethnically cleansed populations of himjuri colonies later became the kemenu (the human-looking ETs in the Alpha Centauri system). The only reason they went to Alpha Centauri was to escape the ongoing conflict in the Menkent system.

Sorry if I deviated from your question a little. This is but one example, of radical religious bull****. The 'Allied Worlds' don't include radicals of any kind, as those tend to get in conflicts the easiest and fastest (that is not to say that in the absence of radical behavior or religious fanaticism, conflicts or even wars cannot emerge between certain groups). Present forms of radicalism are more prominent with the Ciakar, if one is not to look at it as a philosophy but as a religion.

What loose and vague beliefs they do have about the universe, is that there was an intent behind the existence of it, but none of them dare speculate as to what it is. The more daring ones have constructed the theories I have explained in my previous posts ("The Computer Genius God" & "The Sleeping God"). I think they have realized long time ago, that beliefs tend to have a negative effect on those who tend to get to know (not believe), and that eventually, they become twisted and lead to fanaticism. Or their beliefs become shaky etc. - So they have left such concepts behind. At least in the general theist, stance. Concepts such as soul, reincarnation, Consciousness, could be constructs that some may label as being a form of religion themselves, given the right prism of perspective.

B) What do they think about mayor religions on earth? christianity, budism, hinduism, islam, judaism, etc.

That they used to have a purpose (mostly not a positive one), but that some positive messages and advices can be taken of them. And that we should create our own moral and ethical values on which we would build our continually globalized society, not religious dogma. And they are pleased to see that slowly we are leaving such concepts behind in favor of a more general sense of spirituality and interconnection, minus the religion part in it.

C) Have they talked to you specifically about Jesus?

They have said something that he was supposed to be one of the (what we consider them to be) 'Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse'. Mind the words 'supposed to be'. That he had connections with the ETs that claim to be from the Sirius system ETs, along with three others, from different star systems. Three males, one female. One of the males dying soon after arrival, because of its "demonic" appearance. I'm not sure which of the 'Apocalypse Horsemen' Jesus was supposed to represent (my conversation went in the direction of the appearance and later crucifixion of the man). They told me the person and his life are much older than they are portrayed in the media and history to be, and that in the course of time, the story of him became very twisted and distorted, that it has almost lost any original basis.

D) You already explained about angels, but do they say anything about demons, episodes of demonic possession, the nature of it, etc.?

Yes.

That in most cases, its the same culprits behind the mass abductions (Humans, armed with hitech craft, lab-grown ET clones, etc.), trying to encourage people to follow a specific religion (or any religion at all), making them feel like every single thing about it is true, by doing something during the abduction, that would make the abductee believe. Like, when they abduct them, and the abductions abruptly stop as soon as they start praying to Jesus (or insert whatever other religious figure you like). The same thing with certain type of alleged "ghost hauntings" and demonic possessions, they promote religion, by making a full-stop when people turn to religion for answers. The small percent that still get abducted despite everything, or remains "haunted", serve to rattle the snake in the alternative community, and set people in confused or skeptical mode, and make division and quarrel among believers and non-believers in either the power of religion and prayer, or the divide and quarrel between believers and non-believers in the whole paranormal phenomena in general.

In other, small cases - there is a genuine case of spiritual rape. Another, non-corporeal intelligence, invading and trying take over the control of the physical body of another, already incorporated intelligence. I have little knowledge of the latter one, since I have never experienced anything even remotely akin to, "true", "demonic" possession. I wish I did though. It would help in understanding the phenomena a lot better, and I may have more insight that way. But this way, this is all I have to go with.

E) Have they ever told you what's the deal with "LAM", the entitty suposedly contacted by crowley?

No, Crowley hasn't been a topic of discussion with my ET contacts. As I have little interest in him specifically, it may never surface as a topic either. Unless you really want some kind of answer personally, then I'll try not to forget when I contact them next time, to forward the question.

On the other hand, I do have a friend, who is a practicing telema, like a telemath (or more like telemaniac! lol). He should know more about it as they base their life philosophy around Crowley's work. But from little we have talked about the telema (Like Crowley, its not a big interest of mine either), they think this is some sort of manifestation of the will of the universe (which can be a manifestation of one's personal will too - as my, yours, or anyone else's will is still part of the universal one). They also think Crowley contacted no alien intelligence, and that those that think so are bonkers lol. I'll try to get some answers for you, one way or another.

I know this is maybe a lot to talk about, so thanks for taking the time to share and an communicate in here, best regards!!

No worries. Its me who has to apologize, for the long break (but a very needed one too!). I hope everyone understands.


Hi there Onyxknight!

Thank you so much for putting in the considerable time & effort in regards to disseminating the material in your posts. The information you have presented is truly breathtaking in its scope, & serves to make the Project Avalon forum one of the most enthralling of its kind. Like many other members, it is with eager excitement that I await the arrival of the next instalment :)

I'm a relative newcomer to the UFOlogy field, so I apologise in advance if my knowledge pertaining to this area lacks a certain depth. Your reply to 'watchZEITGEIST now's post had me intrigued.

Were you both referring to the Dome of the Rock, Temple Mount UFO incident in Jerusalem in those posts?

If so, I'm curious to know what type of information this Aldebaran orb-probe was gathering in relation to this sacred site.

I didn't have the notes with me at that time, so I was writing out of memory. I have those ones here now, and it doesn't say testing new craft, regarding the Phoenix Lights, but it does say that it was black ops. As far as the Dome of the Rock incident, the shape and light of the UFO is that of what the Aldebarans have as craft, so I wrote that. I don't know what they could be possibly doing there, but knowing that they have their hands deep in religious dogma and indoctrination, and tend to forward it to other cultures, I believe this was an attempt to cause emotional reaction, and connection of ETs and sacred places, God, religion, etc. (at least that's what I think). I haven't discussed this at length with my contacts. This is, assuming the Jerusalem incident has any validity.


The reason I'm asking is because the entity in that picture was similar to the extraterrestrial described by 62 young students of Ariel school, located near Ruwa Zimbabwe.

Who were these beings, & what was their purpose in regards to contacting these children in this way?

I know of this case, and I don't think its fake either. But, I need more details of their looks, in order to find some match that I may know of. Ill try and remember or leave this till next time I have contact or am near their database. They do look "Grayish" in appearance.


Hi OnyxKnight. I would like to know if you have any information about the UMMO issue.
UMMO and Tall Whites are the same?

http://www.ummo-ciencias.org/Cartas%20en%20ingles/D21%20Eng%20Google.htm
http://www.ummo-ciencias.org/Cartas%20en%20ingles/D89%20Eng%20Google.htm

Excellent thread, thanks. (i've printed it all)

Thank you all.
Daniel.

As far as I know, from what it has been discussed by my contacts, the cultures we identify as "Tall Whites" (there are a few), and the "Ummoans", are not the same. The "Ummoans" are another genetic spin-off civilization from the kemenu people in Alpha Centauri.


Hey Onyx.

Question: Do the planets truly have an effect on a person's mood and character as claimed by astrology? (referring to your info regarding the influence of the moon)

Thanks

Short answer: No. Not the way astrology prescribes.

Long answer: The Moon influences us because it shifts the liquids in our body on the pull of gravity, and we tend to have mood swings. Its emphasized when the installations on the Moon do their thing with radiating certain frequencies that affect our brains even more. I don't think the influences the planets would have on us would be that metaphysical like in astrology. The Moon is the nearest such object so its logical to have an effect on us, but the other planets are too far away. If you are near Saturn or Jupiter you might experience their radiation belts for example (not a good thing lol). But you have to be near them to feel that. The only thing I only partly agree with is certain characteristics prescribed to astrological sings regarding character and personality. At least for my sign, they tend to be very much present.

The other planets might produce effects on us when we go closer to them, and try living there for a few centuries :). Like living on the moon Europa for example, in an underwater city. The effects of the crust shift, the fluid environment, smaller gravity, Jupiter's gravity and energy particles it throws off, the effects of the other moons in orbits around Jupiter, etc., it would have a significant impact on us.


thank you for all the time & work you have put into this thread, Onyx

A question for you : the ETs with whom you are in contact -- am i correct in assuming that they are all of this 3D [physical]/4D [mind] world that our human bodies & minds inhabit? that they come from parts of the same Universe we see in the Hubble & similar photos?

i'm basing this question on the knowledge that we live in a multi-dimensional, perhaps infinitely dimensional, Universe

From what they have told me - yes. There are some civilizations that have traveled through different timelines (back and forth), some who come from other universes/spin-off realities too, and some who originally didn't have any physical body, but developed means to function in this universe by having a physical "muppet" with them (a bit different than incarnation, so I'm leaving out humans and other extraterrestrials like us out of this category). But those that I contact are all like us, living, breathing, physical individuals.

You are right, we do live in a multidimensional universe, but it depends on what you understand by 'dimensions'. I should explain certain things soon, about this.


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Could you share which ET race gave the confirmation that nothing will happen to Earth and our solar system in 2012? Looking forward to your input for this topic. I am speculating, that if one of the ET races did confirm with you about it, perhaps they are not aware of what the other ET races know who may have the 'technology' to see what is really going to happen then, such as those who did the crop circles?

As far as I know, the majority of my contacts communicate with each other on regular basis, if there was some new data that came up at one culture, the rest would be informed as soon as possible. I know there are still some doomsday predictions, and some read them out in crop circles, but I have no other means of comforting people about this other than that my contacts have said nothing would happen that would make our species go extinct. That's not confirmation of any kind, but I have no other means to prove that 2013 wont end with huge disasters and catastrophes. December 21st 2012 went pretty quietly, like I thought it would. I see no reason the end of 2013 to be any different.

And the first ones to tell me this were Akiva and Koren, the red-skinned makadi brothers I contact. Others have only confirmed it.

You mentioned the Earth has been quarantined. Is this because of the AI being set in place against our will? If so, why is it doing what it is programmed to do?

Our own A.I. does no such thing, its designed to only monitor and gather data (its not that complex and intelligent as many think it is), but the alien A.I. is situated on the Moon. But the quarantine is set in place by unknown intelligence and has set our planet that there is a "net" or energy engulfing it that doesn't let anything organic to pass on beyond a certain point. I believe its some devices hidden in the crust of our planet that create this net of energy around Earth. It could be even something of a more hyper-dimensional nature, I'm not sure. What the ETs have noticed is that freshly born human infants outside this "net" can cross it in and get out again with no consequences, using human technology. I'm talking about infants who are taken on board some of the crafts of the 'Grays' and 'Reptoids' as they were attempting at leaving the planet. What they have come to conclusion in their research, is that the longer we stay on this planet, and get exposed to certain things the way they are set, and adopt certain behaviors in general, that we loose chances of crossing this "net". I guess if the majority of the world adopted a different viewpoints, attitudes, and be less exposed to these things today, that we will be able to pass. At least that's what the ETs think. They can easily grant us exit of that "net" if they want, but they are adamant to leave us to see if we can change everything about our world, and see if there is a result when humans may attempt passing the "net". I'm not sure how they arrive at their conclusions, but I have seen the way they work (doing complex calculations, logical analysis, even "sensing" different outcomes from timeline probabilities, remote viewing, etc.), so I don't doubt their claims when they say that if we adopt a different way of living and repair the damage done till now, that we would be able to leave the planet.

As far as the Moon A.I. system goes, last time I talked with my contacts they said that they have detected malfunctions in its program, which to my satisfaction, has angered the Moon occupants that placed that system in the first place :). I think the malfunction has manifested as more and more people retaining memories from past lives in comparison with previous generations. One of the key purposes of the alien A.I. is to erase past life memory, and leave the consciousness that passes through its system analogous to tabula rasa.

What does it mean to be spiritual for an ET? They meditate as well?

They view spirituality mostly to be in touch with your self (with us, this pertains to the inner, medium, and higher self, for them, its a bit different as you go from species to species). They can meditate while standing, unlike us, and do it in about 10 minutes and feel completely refreshed in a way (at least the humanoids do, haven't seen the others do it). Some view the correlation of things in the universe as something of a spiritual nature, spiritual connection. Others lack the concept of spirituality, but recognize similar mental constructs, or have adopted similar values. There are some who practice religions in similar way it is on Earth, in order to come off as spiritual (those are the ones who have passed this on to us in the past). The "We Are All Stardust" attitude seems to be the most prevalent one considered a, 'spiritual outlook on life'.

War and conflict seem to be unavoidable even in space. How does the most peaceful ET race get by? Perhaps we can adopt their social system and learn from them?

If these species exist near a conflict area in space, they usually don't get by (survive). Unless there is a helping hand. Most of the contacts I have dealt with, come from civilizations that had similar or different set of problems, like us, or like some other, even older cultures, and many of them have been engaged in wars in the distant past, recent history, or are, at present, in a war conflict. This is something different to what some may be used to hear about extraterrestrials, as we tend to think they are beyond war and conflicts. The thing is, they tend to stick around, the closer you get with an immature company, or them with you. Usually the only reason there is still war with somebody is because that somebody cannot be reasoned with any other way. There haven't been any serious conflicts that have had a hand in destroying alliances amongst the civilizations of this group. The only conflicts and wars have been with non-affiliated groups. I can only say that peaceful resistance wont get us anywhere. I'm sorry.

What most civilizations have done is - discover the reason for their aggression. The reason they wage wars amongst themselves, address major issues with dedication and responsibility, removing the negative influences in their society. We have done no such steps, not even one of these. So we will continue to be stuck on this vicious circle until we finally get so sick and tired of it all we actually do something about it. Like, for real, not just saying that we will do, but actually doing it. I think we need to raise more awareness in people, and once we get enough numbers, its easier to deliver mutiny and rebel against the negative side of the system. Until then, it seems we need to pass the "drink" along, and do a little growing up ourselves, in terms of consciousness. Its not enough to wake up and open the eyes, its been a deep slumber, and even we, need to shake ourselves up and kill the grogginess lol. I hope you understand what I'm trying to say. We are not done yet. Not by far.


I know your question backlog is already quite high as many people ask many questions at the same time, but I would still like to add one question:

Have your ET contacts warned you about man-made global warming or man-made ecological catastrophes?

Yes. In fact, most of the major catastrophes we are about to witness, are going to be man-made. Either completely, or the effects of them are going to be amplified significantly high. Tsunamis, earthquakes, volcanoes, weather storms etc. Last time I talked with them they said the southern hemisphere would more subjected to this, and the southeast parts of the world. There is also some disasters involving fire, which I understand are done by humans, but for the sake of transport (I'm not sure why I have gathered this data and not asked more, I just read it from the note that I have here). I'll ask more when I get the chance. Have the fires that occurred around the world follow some kind of pattern, even linear one?

As far as Global Warming is concerned, we have contributed only 1% to the natural effects. And Global Warming is just a natural cycle that the Earth goes through periodically. Most planets have cycles that they go through, its very important to know what, and how much of it, you contribute to the effects. Sadly, we are being fed lies about this, even today. We are in for an Ice Age, rather then a Global Warming.


Thanks alot Onyx. This is so valueble.

Some questions:

1) What are their opinions on known researchers in the UFO field? I'm extra curious about Dolores Cannon, if they ever mention her, with all her tons and tons of information through past life hypnosis. Would also like to know your thoughts on Ashayana Deane.

I haven't talked to them about other researchers. They've suggested that I go through the material of people like Alex Collier, David Icke and Jordan Maxwell. They didn't say whether I should believe or disbelieve, or whether these people are credible or not, they just said that I go through their material, and then decide for myself on the validity of it. I haven't read much on Dolores, I will have to do just that in order to give a good reply, but Ashayana is a red alarm for me, sorry. I felt compelled to stop listening the first half an hour of the first part of the series I decided to go through. Sometimes I get a feeling like something is off with people. Maybe its something personal, rather than general, when it comes to this. So even though I don't like her and what she has to say, it may not mean that she is untruthful, or making invalid claims. I think its best for each person to decide what rings true to them, and filter the rest. In the end, we will know what was true and what was not, when the final realization comes, and the fat lady sings.

2) How aware are they about karma, and what are their take on it? I mean specially the spieces that mix with other and maybe uses them for own purposes.

Not in the sense that we understand karma. If I remember correctly, there is a law in physics that states that whatever temperature may arise as a result of some kind of action or reaction, the final result is always a thermodynamic equilibrium (correct me if I'm wrong). They view this somewhat the same, no matter how "positive" or "negative" you are to yourself or somebody else, if you add negativity to your "counter", if you will, a "law" states that eventually the process reaches an equilibrium state, so the excess negativity (or negative energy, if its easier to understand) released, comes back to its source. So in a sense, to them, "karma" is a matter of physics and universal laws. Spiritual physics, if you will.

No negativity lasts forever, there is enough balance of the two forces as it is in the universe that they understand, so any negative action or release, that shifts the balance, or the constant, eventually settles down back. It may result in a spontaneous population diminishment and eventual disintegration of a culture, a result brought forth by various, seemingly "random" factors that many would attribute as coincidental, or circumstantial. One form of negative build up of energy (spiritual energy, if it makes it easier to understand), is imposing your willpower unto another willpower. Usually for the effect to occur, one willpower has to be stronger, and the consequence, a build up of negative energy stemming from the stronger willpower that eventually has to meet equilibrium standards of the universe. An example of clash of will-powers that we could be familiar with in concept, may include slavery, abduction, or forceful hybridization, etc.

By the same law, creating a build up of positive energy, as well needs to meet the balancing constant of the universe, so any positivity you release out there, should come back to its source in order to find the zero point value, in the equilibrium state. So in a sense, yes, "karma" does exist. Just, there are no rules as to how, when, or where it will happen.

3) Will there be an ascension of this whole planet in the future? Some talk about a shift into 5:th dimension.

I think I explained Ascension in some of my my previous posts, but no matter. It has to do with ascending to more complex, sophisticated, physical form of being (evolution) and ascending the level of your understanding and awareness (spiritual progression), nothing to with the concepts tossed around and originally created by the New Age movement, with traveling between dimensions etc., We are currently in the process of Ascension, and it won't stop nor slow down, it will continue as it is, and perhaps go faster, if conditions are met. I'm sorry if this is not what you wanted to hear, but this is what I understand to be Ascension.

Of course my brain is filled with a hundred questions, but my heart has one. Are we as humans going out there? Are we going to see good times in the future where we can join our brothers, and really, our ancestors? You said somewhere (or was it you) that we as humans had the potential to be knights of truth in this world, and bring good as a unique creation. How great are our chanses acording to your sources? I feel somehow that there is something here that is important in a deeper way, then just getting a lot of information in our brains. What would your sources say is the best way to go forth for us individuals?

I don't remember that I said something like that, but if I have, it sounds very nice :P.

Of course we are going out there. Many humans are already out there too. Most of them don't know of us, and this planet. They are grown in a different environment, and they are immune to the nasty effects offered here daily, on our planet. There are also others who are from here, yet still can visit other places using circumvention tactics to go outside the "Quarantine". Those are not the "good guys", for the most part. Not the type of humans you would want to be out there to represent your species, reputation, nature. But at the same time, many of them have experienced more heavy brainwashing than you, I and seven other billion people have. So the situation needs to be understood. Not condoned or excused, just understood. I will talk about this in future posts.

In time this will change, and we will finally get the green light to roam the stars freely, but until then, we should remain in the donkey seat in our classroom, and wait out our sentence, fix our problems, and grow up, applying maturity and responsibility in everyday life. We can't skip certain steps of our development. That's one thing they were adamant about, my contacts. But so far, so good, they believe we are on our way. We just need to speed up the pace, that's all.

I also want to say, as much as there are wonderful things that wait us out there, there will also be situations that would require us to bring our best understanding, maturity and intuition to the table, to prove ourselves to the watchful universe. Surviving on this planet and growing a better species out of this whole messy chaos here is but the easiest one, by far. But if we pass this test, we show that we have the potential to pass all others, no matter how hard they may be. Perhaps not me or you, nor our children, but our children's children might actually taste the fruit of any good labor we do in our lifetimes. The sooner we fix the problems in our own backyard, the sooner we can visit the neighbor's yard.

And a red star is waiting for us to visit one day. And somebody would be waiting there with open arms for embrace.


Well I hope he keeps it up, because this is has really opened the door for me. Everything I have tells me this is real, some of what he has stated is still bang'n thru my head, like a hammer hitting a bell. My God, just when you think you are in the deep end of the pool you find out there is an ocean in front of you. I think this is worth a re-read, there is alot of info here and Im sure we should take the time to chew on it all a bit. We just learned how it is that we came to be on this planet...man, I think I need a minute to process that.

Thank you very much for the wonderful words! :)


Onyx,

Like many of the others, I want to thank you for your posts. Very much sat well with me, very little was rejected. As a young kid, I had an irrational fear of the night sky, particularity in winter when the skies where clearer. I had many dreams on the subject, bad ones that I didn't shake until my teens.
I've spent a lot of time trying to find fact in all the disinformation out there, and you pretty eloquently clear that up.

So thanks.

Hi, McJigg, you're welcome. And on the subject of bad dreams, with that particular theme, you and I are not that different. I used to have such nightmares as well, and too, they lasted till my teenage years. But in my nightmares, the sky was always cloudy, with dark clouds. I think it was the clouds that scared me the most, and sometimes I get a similar feeling of fear when I look up and I see clouds, I don't know why. Even if I'm not cold I feel cold, and scared in a way. But when I see a clear sky, with stars dotting it around, spread across, I get a familiar feeling, sometimes similar to nostalgia, I feel warmth, inner joy, I smile. I don't know why that is, and why I react so differently to the sky.

Question however. What's the situation around our planet concerning the factions? Are they encircling it like police surround a building because of the bad reptoids? Is there some sort of uneasy truce they hold out in space? 'Planet X' may no longer be a threat, but was that because of war? I guess I'm looking for an opinion on the current earth ET affairs from their point of view.

As you are probably aware, most of the "negative" extraterrestrial factor is now situated underground, and they govern things from there. In my last exchange I see on my notes here that its not the 'Reptoids' that we should be worried about that much currently, but a new factor that has, in a sense, taken over control, not only human society, but whatever elements of ET society there are, underground. It also explains why I thought people misunderstood "Reptoids" to be shapeshifters, with their technology to become invisible to the naked eye. It made no sense to me that the two would be confused with one another. It turns out, there IS in fact a shapeshifting alien race, that can not only mimic humans, but can mimic the 'Grays' and the 'Reptoids' as well. It represents a potential threat, because it can mimic pretty much any species, altering its genetic make up on a molecular level. The reason we are the only ones being subject to its masquerade, is because 'it' came back as one of the humans involved with wormhole traveling to other star systems, and then started mimicking the 'Gray' and 'Reptoid' variants living underground with the human populations. So this is one major problem they are trying to deal with now, but they cannot function underground, as there is some heavy protection in place to render any involvement from above useless, unless it is authorized from the underground. The reason its the most dangerous threat, is because it can mimic the other species out there, if it comes in contact with them, and that poses a major concern for the 'Allied Worlds' since they can mimic their diplomatic links, the representatives, crucial figures in their homeworlds, etc. As far as I know, above ground such individuals are being eliminated, but there is still problem with accessing the underground. I have no information on any other details about this species.

They have cloaked satellite-like machines that track and sometimes render inoperable certain alien craft (not necessarily 'Gray', 'Reptoid', 'Mantoid' or any familiar species, but many other ones that are not familiar with Earth and are just passing by). It seems that 'quarantined' planets are not approachable, even if its just orbital observation. They also keep track of human satellites, probes or other spacecraft that we send in space and they inspect it thoroughly for any forms of weaponry (bio, radioactive, etc.). If it sounds like "police" job, then it probably might be. I personally don't see it that way. I see it as a matter of precaution, an attempt not to complicate the matter any further, or worsen it. They have realized that a mess has been made, and they have divided the solution on to labor that we should do (clean our own share of the mess), and their own share of the mess to deal with. Part of it is minimizing the influence we have outside our Solar System, which is not going very well, considering we are already present on several other star systems, creating more mess (this is why there is that call to mature as a species, grow responsible, and more spiritual, because we would take the bull**** we do here, elsewhere).

The diplomatic parties have immunity, because they are the conduits through which the voices of the species as a whole is represented, so it is of no use for them to be involved in any ensuing wars and conflicts, so in a sense, the only steady truce can be delivered by these parties, if they are willing to work with each other. So while species X has beef with species Y, representative x and representative y frequently meet up on a neutral territory and try to solve the issues that started the war in the first place. The only difference from our case and theirs is that nobody ever really kills the messenger, no matter how dreadful the events may become. Sometimes there are truces to be made, but they don't last long, if its a steady war business. For example, the biggest problem right now with the Ciakar Empire is subjugation of other species and conquest of territory (star systems). It has grown more light in recent centuries, since they haven't been allowed to move around a lot in the local sector of the galaxy, by maintaining the exact "police" watch that I was talking about, on many other populated star systems, or installing defenses in their star system's backyard, so to speak. So, not many new species to use as pawns, not much new territory to move and spread, it causes frustration and anger with the Empire, and they vent it by getting in conflicts with the more powerful civilizations that comprise the Allied Worlds body.

The Orion Group is a bit more complicated, as the group is held together by several absolute ideals it follows (exploitation, consummation, regression, supremacy, control, power), they recognize no authority but themselves, they consider themselves supreme to all others, they believe lesser species are not capable of taking care of themselves, and they believe only controlled evolution would lead to successful species, that in exchange for that the species may be used to further a personal agenda, that once hitting the right genetic state, they are kept there in a evolutionary status quo, and stagnation/regression. It might seem crazy to think that such crazy developed civilizations capable of traversing the stars would hold on to such ridiculous and immature beliefs, but sadly, there is no rule that says that they can't become that way, and from their and my point of view, of what I have seen, they seem to exist. The reason its more complicated, is that sometimes they can find holes in some of the philosophy the Allied Worlds group of civilizations adhere to, and still have at least some of their way, with others. This is how, hundred thousand years ago, they entered this project called 'mankind', even though practically nobody wanted them here, and they brought the Ciakar species here with them too. I haven't been told what holes in the way this project was supposed to be handled (and by whom), they found, but I think its because they are ashamed that they didn't do something back then to keep them out of it. For freaking sake, they still control Mars. That tells you everything. Nothing the 'A.W.' can do about it.

If there is more you want to ask, please do so, and sorry if I deviated from your question a little, or didn't cover it fully.


I thought of some more questions I don't think I've seen covered anywhere.

You mention their political systems, but what's life like for an average extra terrestrial? Do they have currency? What forms of entertainment do they have? What kind of jobs are available? Are they required to have jobs to support themselves?

Low priority stuff, but there has to be more to them then the faceless secret scientists in orbit many think of them to be.

I only know in more detail the lives of the human-looking ones. The others, I'm not very familiar with, in regards to the content of your question.

Most only meditate, in order to replenish, and they don't sleep. There are few that do, but only a couple of hours at most, on average. So they "wake up" early, and start their day with a good cleanse (a combination of shower/bath, gas tank, cream rub, few other things), and then going on to have a meal (apparently, after physical rest, its important to eat as soon as possible). They go on to do their jobs (jobs they love, for the most part, if not, they at least like them), which usually parallels their interests/hobbies. Otherwise they probably wouldn't be happy with their job. They can stop at any time to start some other activity, there is always somebody else to replace that person. At least that's how it seemed to me. Some work more, some work less, it depends on the civilization, and the governing focus on certain professions also varies from species to species. I'm talking in very general terms here, as they are very different from each other, and I can't get into too much detailed differences, because it would take too much space, and I have forgotten a lot of the details of certain cultures, so you will have to forgive me if this stays strictly general (in similarities only). They won't eat again until after getting another rest. They drink a lot more than they eat, and this also seems to be more common among most of the humanoids. They cleanse their system every day, usually in the morning (bathroom breaks and all).

Most would continue their day either dividing the time between jobs, hobbies and personal life (socializing and/or courtship). Some work full time, not even leading a personal life (I'm not sure under what circumstances this happens, but it seems to be mostly people who are involved in more serious matters, and don't mind spending all of their time to a specific task/job. They also seem to be lacking a family unit, from my understanding. The strangest thing is, everything is what we would consider volunteer work. There is no reward at the end, in form of currency. Sometimes in rare occasions, if its a matter of unique items/deals, there may be a trade between people, but its not common. All of their needs and most of their wants are satisfied, products of outstanding variety are available for purchase and consumption. Others have resource towers, or resource centers, some have "community centers" which are more product driven, and each has acres of land where food is grown. Some prefer to live in space and only grow their food and several of the energy needs they need, on the land of a given planet. A lot of them are very used to living on mobile space stations, and ringed cities around planets, looking something like Saturn's rings, only shorter and more reflective (because they are artificial). The more gardener/agriculture-driven societies do make a living on actual planets. Others prefer to live underground in order not to disturb any natural biosphere above, on the surface, etc.

I think there is something akin to currency, with some of the civilizations comprising the Orion Group. There is material exchange and exchange of services. While in our world, you pay somebody to do something for you, there you pay somebody to do something for you and he pays you back in same amount the same time, for you to do something for him. Considering its still some form of currency, and similar system the way we have here on Earth, I'm a bit surprised it had lasted this long (if its an old system in their culture, and not something relatively new).

There are many forms of entertainment, and I think I have covered this question before, just not sure how much. Some like engaging into virtual reality, some prefer reviewing historical events on other planets, some prefer to be there "real time" (crossing parallel timelines), others just enjoy good sport, whether is acrobatics, aerial diving, craft races, animal races, swimming, expeditions, climbs, aggro-competitions, bio-competitions, choreographed battles, sound-crafting (analog to music for us) and arts, and many others.


I thank you.

OnyxKnight, Your experiences and expertise in the subjects you've written about are extremely intriguing and impressive. A benefit to being empathic is that I am able to tell when effort and care has been put into a project, and I must say your writing has the feel of just that. You care very deeply about getting your message across, and if the replies on this forum alone are any indication; your feelings are being shared. I haven't quite finished reading everything, but what I have read has already been logged along some of the more important information I've gathered since I started my quest for knowledge. I thank you.

Thank you for the wonderful words Oak! I appreciate it! :)

I have finished reading your posts and I have a question on how any of the ET's view religion; with an emphasis on pagan philosophy. I've often come across terminology in speeches and lectures (By Davide Icke and the like) that reminds me very much of the things I was taught to teach to others; primarily the "Higher Self" belief. I'm just curious if you or your contacts have ever thought on the subject.

What I found out about that was, our core mental matrix is divided in three parts, The Higher, the Median, and the Hidden Self. The Median self is our default state in which we function most of the time, on daily basis etc., and it serves as the balance between the other two conflicting parts.

The Higher Self is the part of ourselves that is tightly connected with the quantum world and the astral realm, and it is used to draw out information, establishing connections with others, our empathic nature comes from here too, it aims for collectivism, selflessness, sacrifice, diminishment, interpersonal relationships, connection, bravery, curiosity, creativity, imagination, complex thought patterns, enigmatic thought patterns etc. This is basically the sub-conscious.

The Hidden Self is somewhat of an opposite. It tackles with fear, sense of danger, sense of failure, individualism, preservation, survival, endurance, wittiness, selfishness, manipulation, circumvention, hesitation, primal force, carnal forces, sexual desire, twisted thought patterns, our dark nature, personal importance, arrogance and narcissism, introversion, disconnection. This is the deep, dark you, that we usually hide in the strongest mental cage possible, and we unleash this beast only in certain situations.

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It also somewhat fits the Freudian psyche model of Ego (Median), Super-Ego (Higher Self) and ID (Hidden Self). I don't know why, but a lot of the alternative media circles promote the idea of ditching the ID, ditching the Ego, and adopting only the Higher Self. Which is a dire mistake one would make if they listen to that, and further that knowledge generation by generation. You need all three to function normally. Without the ID, we would die. Its what kept us alive for a very long time, and its present in the animals as well, if you try to analyze, you would see.

This is how we were constructed to function. Most other species have it all balanced, unlike us. Our psyche is very dynamic, and can shift from one corner to other, depending on circumstances. It has a minimum interaction of the two parts, in order to function as a unit. In the course of our evolution, we should learn to fully combine those two parts together in the third one. People usually commit suicide when the two extreme parts totally disconnect, and there is nothing to sustain the Median Mind. The Higher Self disconnected from the Median has no need to for contact/communication/connection with others, sees no progression, future, optimism, it basically cuts its relationship with the Median, mainly because it is the same is if it doesn't exist. The ID disconnection results in no sense of importance, no desire for preservation or endurance, no Ego to save and survive, therefore it cancels itself. The individual then is prone to suicidal thoughts, and unless the energies are restored and balanced, as well as its mental state (the two extremes, the Super-Ego and the ID), then they will more likely act on the suicidal thoughts.

This can happen from trauma, physical or otherwise, depression gone to deep, overpowering sense of personal disappointment and failure, emotional storm of pain. We are beings of extreme polarity. We can change somebody's life with a smile, and the simple energy it brings forth, and yet we can destroy it with a simple word too. We can be strong like a mountain, yet crumble like sand castle under the tiniest breeze.

Now, paganism. This would make an interesting question, since I haven't talked to them about it in any detail about this, specifically. But I will forward this on.

[OnyxKnight]

Hi there Onyxknight!

Thank you so much for putting in the considerable time & effort in regards to disseminating the material in your posts. The information you have presented is truly breathtaking in its scope, & serves to make the Project Avalon forum one of the most enthralling of its kind. Like many other members, it is with eager excitement that I await the arrival of the next instalment :)
......
Who were these beings, & what was their purpose in regards to contacting these children in this way?



I'd also love to know whether the photo below is authentic in nature. I'm not sure as to the veracity of the story behind it, but I read that a couple discovered it whilst developing their role of film, & they have no idea how it got there!

http://img809.imageshack.us/img809/755/ebetypeii.jpg

I don't know if its fake or not, but I could look into it and check. If its a fake, the characteristics still match that of the Aldebaran scout ships. What I find strange is that only a couple saw it, and they did so after developing the film etc., and nobody else, yet there were many people out there, as far as I know.

Thank you! :)

I honestly don't know. I think they may be connected with the 'Grays', or being a Gray variant, by the looks of it. But I could ask.


can you give me an idea of the history at this location, who and when specifically?


Gobekli Tepe ( Kurdish: Girê Navokê) is a hilltop sanctuary built on the highest point of an elongated mountain ridge about 15 km northeast of the Kurdish town of Urfa in northern Kurdistan. The site, currently undergoing excavation by German archaeologists,and was erected by hunter-gatherers in the 10th millennium BC (ca 11,500 years ago), before the advent of sedentism. . Göbekli Tepe is the oldest human-made place of worship yet discovered. Until excavations began, a complex on this scale was not thought possible for a community so ancient...

This place is so forbidden they made the country disappear... ;)

Oh .... its probably far older than that :). A pocket civilization, who would know? I don't have information on this sadly, and I think it may have been even better researched if Kurdistan still existed as a country today. Just a hunch.

Rocky, another interesting question to add on the counter I think :).


What a magnificent thread!

OnyxKnight has made a remarkable contribution to this forum and my thanks go out to not only him but for all the many avalon members contributing here. Nary a peep of negativity which helps to keep the information flowing.

I hope some sort of book or online compilation can be brought to reality. Even if the desire for information to be made free is upheld there is still a matter of cost involved (ie energy exchange) and I am sure many many here would be willing to help in that regard.

I would.

Thank you Calz, for the wonderful words, truly appreciate it. I don't have the resources to do it in a book format (although I'd love to), or another media outlet, or edition, that is more entertainment friendly, so more people be exposed to the material. If I do it, I'll try to do it on my own, and make it available for free. I believe everybody deserves to have access to this and make up their own minds on the issue.

My question would be regarding the "afterlife" or even "nde". Nde is too common and documented to dismiss. Not unanimous by any means but most people experiencing nde report similar things as well as those regressed to past lives.

I won't go back looking for the quotes (sorry) but I remember the et's not offering much regarding spirituality (or not being asked) yet coming forward with the "contract" souls make when entering the world and having said contract cut short via later abortions etc.

Val Valerian in the Matrix materials brought forth a lot of early solid information regarding the et/ufo situation (in many people's opinions). In his last writings he suggested that et's actually were in control of the "afterlife/inbetween life" condition as well as our living reality and inferred it wasn't such a "good idea" to go into the "tunnel of light" etc.

Can you offer any insight from your vast experience of information exchange to shed any light on that???

A million thanks due to you from avalon ... hope a book and avalon interview are forthcoming :)


Yes, in fact they have been warning me about it since I was a kid, probably because they expected certain events to happen, and a few of them did, that got me in nde state. Last and most influential one, was during my appendicitis surgery, where things got pretty nasty, and I was clinically dead for a few minutes (and it definitely didn't feel that short).

They told me that this is some sort of beacon, that attracts "souls" like night flies get attracted to light bulbs. Once they go through that "light sphere" (that's how they described it), the soul /Consciousness is purged from any memory, experience, residual thoughts. It basically becomes an empty board, a white sheet of paper, so things can be written down again. And it goes around in cycles. Allegedly, this 'system', is situated on the Moon, and performs this operation there. So Val Valerian might be onto something there, when saying that ET's possess technology that can mess with non-physical intelligence. The thing is, they didn't develop this technology on their own, they have stumbled across it somewhere, and through experiments realized that it had the ability to manipulate beings on trans-biological, spirit level.



can you give me an idea of the history at this location, who and when specifically?


This place is so forbidden they made the country disappear... ;)

Oh .... its probably far older than that :). A pocket civilization, who would know? I don't have information on this sadly, and I think it may have been even better researched if Kurdistan still existed as a country today. Just a hunch.

Rocky, another interesting question to add on the counter I think.


Hi Onyx,

Thank you for your post, it is wonderful. Your style of writing is artful.

Just a quick question in regards to the above, what is going on in Altair at the moment? Also are the Black project people out there getting taken out? (good job if they are)

Yes, there are other star systems where there is active war conflict, and similar bull**** going on like on Earth here, in this local corner of space. The main such conflict areas are Sirius B, Altair, and other star systems that we call 70 Ophiuchi, 82 G. Eridani, and Gliese 686. I don't know whats going on with these places right now, since I haven't had contact in a while, but the last information told me that the Ciakar Empire had successfully annexed a few planets in the system, on which one has indigenous life on them. The indigenous culture seems to have been a 'project' like us, and the entire planet that is their homeworld is artificially created too. The Ciakar and their proxy species have begun a hybridization process with the natives attempting to add the species to their Imperial collection. Representatives from the Orion Group were used to "prove" they have right to handle these territories, but the reason for the war conflict is the species that has grown on one of the planets, and there is no way to circumvent and excuse deliberate tampering with a species' genetic code, enslaving them and their later exploitation.

There are human ET elements living on the planets closer to the star, establishing bases of operation there, since the system offers ways to travel to other systems, so it makes it a pivotal place alongside Sirius and Procyon as important , crucial places in terms of tactics and strategy. And yes, Black Ops people are the ones that collaborate with the Orion Group present there. They offered a piece of the pie, if we (I mean the black ops elements), help them with hitech weaponry system and defend the ground from "violent takeover". They actually believe the species are facing extinction, that they hybridization program is to help them, and that the aggressors are the human ET elements situated in the inner planets. Like I mentioned before, we are not the only ones heavily brainwashed into adopting certain values, attitudes, "facts" as truths. So far, to my knowledge, the KBA hasn't moved away from our Solar System, and the "bad" guys are still doing what they do there.

[Rocky_Shorz]

you do know you could publish just this thread as an eBook and retire from it...

the Q&A cleaned up a little to make it flow, but release it as a Series 1 with more to follow...

I've read so much from so many but you really are the first that has rang true from start to finish...

if you haven't spoke with K4Alls son yet, he is gifted and has hidden tracks of memory he has been recalling for many of us.

not sure if it will fill in some of your missing answers but worth saying hi

he is in contact with the Sasquatches, and some knowledge being passed from that connection...

any word on the Mermaids? and aquatic animals that ran aground from something frightening?

[OnyxKnight]

you do know you could publish just this thread as an eBook and retire from it...

the Q&A cleaned up a little to make it flow, but release it as a Series 1 with more to follow...

I've read so much from so many but you really are the first that has rang true from start to finish...

if you haven't spoke with K4Alls son yet, he is gifted and has hidden tracks of memory he has been recalling for many of us.

not sure if it will fill in some of your missing answers but worth saying hi

he is in contact with the Sasquatches, and some knowledge being passed from that connection...

any word on the Mermaids? and aquatic animals that ran aground from something frightening?


Retire? lol - You don't get to retire from this, its not that kind of thing (I think?).

And what do you mean, release as a series 1? Less cryptic, more detail please :D.


Interesting suggestion, I'll try it out. Remember, I had contact with "Sasquatches" too :D.


As far as aquatic life is concerned - do some research on USO reports (current ones), and the strange going ons in the Pacific, especially ningen reports! :D


Aaaaaand I'm out! Time for me to be less detailed and more cryptic haha

[Rocky_Shorz]

that's why I mentioned it, she's on your side of the pond.

eBooks you toss up for 5.99 and leave it on a site, soon as they pay they have the book to read, and can be made not sharable so can't be passed, must be purchased...

retired as in never needing to work to afford what you want to do...

more time for typing... ;)

the questions not answered in the first book are in #2, 3 and 4 and...

[OnyxKnight]

that's why I mentioned it, she's on your side of the pond.

eBooks you toss up for 5.99 and leave it on a site, soon as they pay they have the book to read, and can be made not sharable so can't be passed, must be purchased...

retired as in never needing to work to afford what you want to do...

more time for typing... ;)


Its a nice thought but I'm trying to get this out to everybody, for free. I'm sure some would be willing to pay, but others might not, so its probably best if its free. Some might not like what I have to say and share, and then curse me for those 5.99 they wasted on me :D

[Rocky_Shorz]

well this is where you share it for free and put it for sale to get into public airways...

imagine a million seller on the eBook charts...

you'd be a rock star with the knowledge you have, but you'll need to keep a pen name so you still have your privacy...

no book signings... lol

as far as publicity good or bad gets the word out, if someone is mad they tell 10 people, someone that is happy only tells 2...

publicity 101

it's all good... ;)

[Selene]

OnyxKnight, thank you so much for your generosity in answering here. I am speechless with gratitude at your courage and clarity. You are wonderful!

If I may, you commented:


And yes, Black Ops people are the ones that collaborate with the Orion Group present there. They offered a piece of the pie, if we (I mean the black ops elements), help them with hitech weaponry system and defend the ground from "violent takeover". They actually believe the species are facing extinction, that they hybridization program is to help them, and that the aggressors are the human ET elements situated in the inner planets. Like I mentioned before, we are not the only ones heavily brainwashed into adopting certain values, attitudes, "facts" as truths.

If I understand you correctly, are you saying that the human[oid] ET’s are therefore also perceived as the “enemy” of the Earth-based Black Ops allies of the Orion group (AKA the secret government, the military-industrial complex, the Illuminati, call it what you will).

If so, does this – in your understanding - explain why the Black Ops/NWO agenda on Earth seems to be so manifestly antihuman, so opposed to its own genetic (or not?) kin? I am thinking in terms of population reduction, mind control, electronic tagging, etc.

Thank you so very, very much for your kindness and patience in answering my admittedly muddled questions. Your comments are far, far beyond helpful in sorting this out.

Cheers,

Selene

[Sirius White]

Wow, amazing information.

Onyx, in your first post I saw you refer to the humanoids from Alpha Centurai and other systems who contacted Eisenhower etc. Can you tell me more, or refer me to the post of yours which more information on these beings? Which ones are manipulative, which ones are trying to help etc? That would assist me a great deal. Thank you!

[Lisab]

I really need to re-read this thread. Good news about the Moon A.I and makes sense to me. I keep meeting more and more people having past life recall lately. Myself included. It's good your back Onyx. Just one question, not sure if you've covered this before but how do we protect our souls during transition after death?

[Flash]

well this is where you share it for free and put it for sale to get into public airways...

imagine a million seller on the eBook charts...

you'd be a rock star with the knowledge you have, but you'll need to keep a pen name so you still have your privacy...

no book signings... lol

as far as publicity good or bad gets the word out, if someone is mad they tell 10 people, someone that is happy only tells 2...

publicity 101

it's all good... ;)

the thing Onyxnight is the following: human psyche, at least for now, think that whatever is free is worthless. If you do not pay for the psychologist, it is because the psy is no good, if you do not pay much for your clothes it is because they are from China and not good quality, if you do not pay for a dentist, he has tried something illegal on you this is why he does not make you pay.
Research has shown that, in psychology, you do have to charge a minimal fee so that change will have a chance to occur in the recipient of the service. For example, universities now charge a minimal fee to poor students for psychology sessions (5$), for dentistry (the material plus nominal), for hairdressing in high school, etc. In few words, we reaaaaallly believe that we have to sweat and pay for our living, we have been made slaves.

A free book may be perceived the same way. A minimal fee should be charge in order to have it read and taken seriously. It could be nominal, so that the poorest can access, only to cover your time cost for example. 2$ a book in the Eastern Éurope, $5 in America and western Europe, 5 cents in Africa and poor countries for example. Give the money back to charity if needed. HOwever, if you have been ask not to sell anything related to your information, then hold your promises and just don't.

Rocky Shorz, Onyx does not want to make money out of it and it is fine, not everybody think as you do. LOL

¤=[Post Update]=¤


I really need to re-read this thread. Good news about the Moon A.I and makes sense to me. I keep meeting more and more people having past life recall lately. Myself included. It's good your back Onyx. Just one question, not sure if you've covered this before but how do we protect our souls during transition after death?

i have the same question and burning need to know.

Also, some tv program working with ghost tell the ghost to go back in the light. They are therefore working for the AI on the moon. This is now widespread in the population, to go to the light. How to counteract it?

[Rocky_Shorz]

well, I've always wanted to publish, and recently they have made it so easy to create on the computer and offer it up to the world. Is it better to slave for another doing something you really don't want to do, or get paid for sharing something you love with others...

I feel he has a best seller with just what he has already shared.

I have never in all my years run across a straight forward explanation of the Universe outside of all the technology we have created as humans on this rock to date.

well, Woodward has walked around with one foot in, the other out, never crossing completely to the other side for 30 years, the light follows along behind him like a faithful pet just happy to be with his master... being connected he can use the energy of heavens light to help the people he cares so much about...

not sure how to translate that to ET Technology... ;)

[thunder24]

i would love to know what emmanuel swedonborg would say about this thread....

[OnyxKnight]

PS: EMVs - Designers of the Solar System - James Horak talks about how the beings in ancient time literally construct planets like Earth to house all the life forms using their advanced technologies.

Thanks for the support Hughe :)

What Horak terms EMVs, are actually active remnants of technology left out by the Progenitors. Their activity has been noticed in several other places as well, other than our Solar system.


I stopped looking at the 'Charles' material when I first read his statement that there are no longer any reptilians here on planet Earth. That lit-up my bullsh*t meter !!!


[snip] Onyx's reply irrelevant to the comment.

Of course its relevant. If it wasn't relevant, it would be off-topic. If it was off-topic, the mods would have deleted the post. I clearly respond to something written with a sentence or two trying to clarify certain things being said in the cited post. If you think that's irrelevant, that's sort of ... your problem, alone?


I first ran across evidence of the reptilian presence back in '76. Since then I've researched tens of thousands of hours of evidence regarding their presence; their continuous manipulation of civilization; their control of our current reality. (just ask me for some of that research) [emphasis added by observer]


[snip] Onyx's reply irrelevant to the comment.

Again, I was making a suggestion, in order to avoid general confusion, because you use a term prescribed to a certain animal kingdom on Earth, to also label a certain type of extraterrestrial life. Relevance exists, whether you acknowledge it or not.


What many people don't realize is, these Draconian Reptiles are hyper-dimensional (extra-dimensional) entities. To interface with them, one must 'invoke' their presence - through ritual. This practice has long been categorized as 'demon worship'. I tell you, it is as real as the type on this page you are reading. The evidence is overwhelming to this conclusion.


[Onyx's reply]:

You might have confused certain things there. Their creators are with an ED nature. The Alpha Draconians, and the rest of the biologically derived sub-races of theirs are quite physical though.

Demon-worshiping is a way to keep the mind religiously-oriented, getting stuck on supernatural phenomena. Belief in magic comes to mind here too.

I have confused nothing, Onyx. Everything I have said is taken from the evidential trail.

The evidence will show that all of the "quite physical" reptile aliens (reptoid ) are in varying degrees, biological automatons (robots), or, otherwise, they are other reptilian species in contractual agreements with, and all working for the hyper-dimensional (extra-dimensional) Draconian Reptiles.

The term 'demon worship' is a simple matter of semantics. One must loose their mind control programing in order to gain an understanding of how the Draconian Reptiles (reptoids [if you must]) have created; directed the evolution of civilization; and, controled this particular reality, since Man first appeared on the planet.

These particular reptiles (reptoids [if you must]) [I]are hyper-dimensional (extra-dimensional) entities. They are the same entities the elite of this planet 'conjure-up' in their 'demonic' ceremonies. I use the term 'demonic' only so the hypnotized masses can understand what I'm referring to.

For a crash course on the Draconian Reptiles (reptoids [if you must]), I would strongly suggest reading Chapter 2 of David Icke's book, 'The Biggest Secret'. I include a free link to Chapter 2, 'Don't Mention the Reptiles', here:

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/biggestsecret/biggestsecretbook/biggestsecret02.htm

For those of you who want a greater - in depth - understanding of this subject, I would strongly suggest reading the entire book. You can find it free online, here:

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/biggestsecret/biggestsecretbook/biggestsecret.htm#contents


Really, Observer, a crash course? I've got an insight into their anatomy, and have shaken hands with few, and you are giving me a "crash course" on 'Reptoids' as demonic apparitions? My god, the irony here ...


"The evidence will show" - What evidence? Have you performed or witnessed an autopsy of a dead ... pard me, malfunctioning, automaton 'Reptoid' body? Because I have. They do possess a quantum matrix (a "soul" if you will). They incarnate like us, as well, but their spiritual progression is so slow, that, unlike us, they are not able to restore previous incarnation memories, into their current one. The real Ciakar/Original 'Reptoids', look like dragons. Not the humanoid form that is being tossed around with pale complexion color (that's something else entirely), and flaps of skin under the arms. But big, bulky, horny, monstrous-looking beasts. And they haven't set a foot here themselves in over 350.000 years, as they can't stand our planet's gravity, our atmosphere is toxic to them, and they don't like our Sun too, and nobody wants them here in an artificially built environment either, as they are dangerous. Considering humans work with beings such as the 'Gray' variants and other 'Reptoid' groups, and even these alien groups would rather be here without the presence of the Ciakar, tells a lot, especially the validity of the word 'dangerous'.

If you can't decipher between highly sophisticated technology and magical hocus-bogus crap concerning "demonic worship" (yes, I put brackets in, I know what you are referring to) I, find myself pointing out yet again that it is not my problem. But it becomes my problem when a lifetime of experiences are replaced with a "crash-course" education from a person who has never seen a 'Reptoid' in his life, and via an archive website. Your first mistake and sign of ignorance, is that you use ED at all. In order to call something extra-dimensional, you need to understand what dimensions are, and how the universe functions with them. And you definitely don't, I'm afraid. There is nothing "extra-dimensional" about any species of 'Reptoids', not even their creators (which you sorta left them out, for some reason).


OnyxKnight,

Many thanks for your patience and your contributions.

Sol B: You have referenced this a few times. Are we in a binary star system in which our companion has inhabitated planets? If so, are these indigenous races? Does the orbit keep the companion sytem distant, or does it make a periodic approach to our star?

How are your artistic skills? You mentioned that pictures were verboten, how about drawings of the various races and their craft? It would make for a fantastic visual companion to your story.

Thank you! :)

Yes, it has inhabited planets, and its situated near the Oort Cloud, its an object that its on the boundary between what distinguishes red dwarf stars and brown dwarfs (failed stars). I dunno why its not visible from Earth, but apparently, its visible from Mars' southern hemisphere.

Its closest approach is at aprox. 42.000 AU, far enough for itself not to be the cause of mass extinctions and source of destruction. Although its gravity may have resulted in perturbations in the objects in the Oort Cloud and making some of them head this way and turn into comets as they approach the sun closer, and have been, or be, sources of destruction.

No indigenous species exist there, but there are/were 'Reptoid' colonies there, of a species that was provolved here long time ago, alongside the 'Human Project'. I used to be very good at art when I was a kid, then something happened and I kinda lost that gift, so until I refine my skills, I probably won't post anything. I'd like it to look good, not just a simple base drawing of what happened. But since I don't have much time about that, and time flows, I might also ask for another artist' help on the matter, if they wish.


I normally don't spread Sorcha Faal info, but I'm curious what you think of this report...


US Warns Russia: “Aliens On Their Way, Will Be Here In 2012

According to this report, the “communication signals” being passed between the giant asteroids 2010 SO16 and 2005 YU55 currently headed towards Earth, and which we reported on in our April 21st report “Awakening” Moon Shocks Scientists As Massive Asteroids Near Earth”, are “identical” to the deep-space transmissions previously described by the United States National Security Agency (NSA) as “confirming” an intelligent extraterrestrial race of beings other than human.

Most interesting to note in this report is the NSA release this past week of one of its most top-secret documents relating to these aliens titled “Key To The Extraterrestrial Messages” where the “21 symbols” used by these aliens in their “communications” seem to show that not one, but two distinct extraterrestrial are nearing our Earth...

<CLIPPED>

This report goes on to detail Putin’s speculation to Biden that our Earth may be nearing a scenario like that which occurred on April 4, 1561, when in the skies over Nuremberg, Germany, hundreds of UFO’s engaged in a battle witnessed by thousands, and of which we can read as reported from those times:..

full story (http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index1475.htm)


If it was true, the signals wouldn't be deciphered by humans that easily, it would take at least decades for it. The other more obvious sign this was not true is that 2012 came and went away. Also, a lot of 'chatter' is not common in a conflict/war scenario.

[Rocky_Shorz]

so if they were here, we would be able to recognize them, it wouldn't be cloaked from our perceptions?

we've just been experiencing lot's of events around the globe this year, and I appreciate the update on my curiosity from back then...

all of us are being affected in our moods, so don't beat up on our buddy observer, we are all working on learning how to release this energy without killing each other... ;)

I've found Zen background music playing really does help...

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[Kiforall]

Hi Onyx, Rocky has mentioned my son to you and I've just found your thread.

He remembers working with what he calls jelly people who had something to do with the Ark.

He also has dreams where he meets sasquatch, at the moment he says they are suffering from some sort of disease which is causing their hair to drop out/rot. He's only 9yr so his descriptions can be vague. They have a cure that 'his' sasquatch is using to heal the members of his village, a herbal mixture. It's taking about a week to work. Do you know anything about this?

My daughter has also had contact in her dreams with an under water civilisation who she believes are here on Earth in this dimension.

The description of them is blue, their faces are humanoid, the skull at the front is normal shape but has an oversized fleshy addition at the back where she says energy is stored. They wear a headband with a large crystal at the front and one at each side of their head.

Their bodies are no different from us except their index finger is longer and they use it for healing and used it to clear her thoughts so she could communicate with them. She's played with the children who grow up with a crystal that they have from birth.

They have a huge energy ball inside their city, she describes as big as a room which is powered by a crystal where they 'feed' from by literally grabbing hold of a handful of energy and swallowing it.

The underwater city has been attacked because the 'goverment' are after the crystal. She also saw them build up an energy vortex/whirlpool which they sent up to the 'submarine/underwater craft' that was attacking them.

Any feedback would be much appreciated, I am always open and believe what they experience is true to them but I'm also aware that kids have a great imagination.

Thanks Zoe

[Rocky_Shorz]

Well today was pretty cool, dropped by to give someone a cleansing uncovered a shape shifter abduction from when she was back in college...

this is a first for me...

she went on a date with one of the more popular men in college, they drove out to the mountains, heading for a nice quiet spot, she looked over and a horn started growing out of his head, she looked away not wanting to act like she noticed, soon pulled into a place and stopped, he got out, put on a white robe, picked up a walking stick and told her to stay put, he would be back in a little while...

she thought it was strange, and kept thinking about what she had seen, wanting to just drive away and leave him. this was 35-40 years ago, long before it was common talk between conspiracy theorists...

he came back after an hour and said let's go ahead and head back, and he said don't be surprised if we see some ships, she said boats in the mountains, he laughed...

suddenly he said slow down and she did and looked over and hovering beside the road was a saucer, he said stop and she did...

she got home about 4AM that morning, not really remembering driving, sat on the bed, leaned back and fell asleep, when she woke up it was 3 days later...

her clock didn't tell her what day she went to sleep...

I tried to look for the missing space, but her memory didn't record any of it...

the man she was with that night went on to write 3-4 ET books...

she was afraid of seeing him again after that weird night, but saw him in an article that he went on to become and author...

her memory recorded the horn growing out of his head toward the sky, now I'm not sure not knowing ETs, but it isn't imagination, she really saw what she did, but none of the missing days were in her memory...

she was a teacher in public schools for 23 years and recently got pretty sick.

when I asked her about what I had seen, she told me she vaguely remembered it and filled in the other that she did remember.

I saw the saucer, she wasn't imagining it and they look identical to what we are still seeing today...

a horn that reached up into the sky? he looked completely human before hand...

I think I've finally seen a Shape shifter through someone else's eyes

you ever heard of any being like this Onyx?

are they really everywhere around us, but look identical to anyone else walking down the street?

[Maunagarjana]

So, this thread is active again? Awesome. I was wondering if it ever would resume. Thank you, Onyx for your efforts, and thanks for sticking around. That large post on Page 18 was fascinating to read. Your way of explaining these things is very lucid and it is much appreciated. I have been sharing this thread with lots of people on various forums and privately among friends for a while now, trying to get more people to pay attention to it. I've also been reminding people here on Avalon of some of the things you've said, as I'm sure you've noticed. I've actually wondered if people have tired of me saying, "Well, OnyxKnight says...." ;)

I too have wondered about the Tall Whites, where they have come from, what their origins and history are, why they are the way that they are, and whether or not they still here. They certainly didn't allow Charles Hall to know much about them, other than if you offend them or touch their kids, they won't hesitate to terminate you. He said he thought they came from a star system near (from our point of view) Arcturus, but that was just a guess based on their reaction when he mentioned Arcturus. This is what he said:


A ripple of emotion passed through the crowd when I mentioned the star Arcturus, some 36 light years away. After a short pause, the older lady asked with some surprise, "Teacher, does Charlie know where we come from?"

The Teacher replied, "No, not quite, but he is close."


I would like more information about this system/technology on the moon that you relate to the "white light". You say that it erases memories of past lives, but this doesn't really make sense to me, as we do seem to retain memories of our past lives (though not consciously), and this has been established through past life hypnotic regression. Also, when psychic mediums talk to beings in the "spirit world" these spirits seem to have full memory of the life they have just lived.

Are you saying this technology is, as some may believe it to be, a form of "soul trap" designed to keep us reincarnating here? Or would that be happening anyway as part of a higher level commitment we have made to be here on Earth? Do you think this system could be what the ancient Gnostics were talking about when they spoke of the Archons forcing us to reincarnate in this world? Also, how do you defeat this pull of this technology? The descriptions I've read of people "going into the light" often have them reporting that it happens so fast, I don't really see how one could "get away".

[Maunagarjana]

Of course my brain is filled with a hundred questions, but my heart has one. Are we as humans going out there? Are we going to see good times in the future where we can join our brothers, and really, our ancestors? You said somewhere (or was it you) that we as humans had the potential to be knights of truth in this world, and bring good as a unique creation. How great are our chanses acording to your sources? I feel somehow that there is something here that is important in a deeper way, then just getting a lot of information in our brains. What would your sources say is the best way to go forth for us individuals?

I don't remember that I said something like that, but if I have, it sounds very nice :P.

I found it here:


They have noticed a rebellious nature in us, as a species, and they are trying to turn that instinct into aggressiveness, and hostile behavior, that they may incorporate in their empire. It seems at least some small part of us has become subject to that, and they have joined them (The MILAB elements), but we are largely a very hard species to bring down. If left to evolve freely, this rebellious nature might make our race a "cosmic knight" culture, who brings rebellion against injustice, brings freedom where there is oppression, creates life where there is none. Something they are very concerned with.

[apokalypse]

i heard from NDE experiences and stories people will go thought life review and you have all kind of emotion/feeling once you in there. Who create this life review? is it from creator/sources/God(call it what ever you like) or from really advance beings using this technology on spirit level? is life review part of these Soul Trap?

i find interesting that with NDE all i hear is about conditions on earth or after life but never mention civilization outside earth. is it possible that when they pass away they have able to see/know everything, have all of abilities as part of the soul but when they come back to body only remember 10% at most of what they see-feel or know.

one of my friend who is a nurse saying 2 people who have experience NDE seeing these 'white light' and don't have memories from their past lives. few people who i talked to so far they seeing beings either their relative or some unknown told them to go back but never have any memories from their past. If is a Soul then should they able to remember everything and know everything? or only a dream...?

[Rocky_Shorz]

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what do you think of their info Onyx?

[milkteagirl]

wonderful to see Onyx back and this thread active again. yay!!! :peace:
can't wait to read more (i have waited and will continue patiently for more information to unravel). all in good "time", eh!

[dan33]

Hi Onyx, thanks for this wonderful thread.



My question is: In your opinion, ¿ is there any difference between Nordics and Ummo?

Thanks in advance.

Daniel

[ResistETIntervention]

The information presented in this thread, like everything else, are subject to criticism and objective thought. I do welcome both here. As I too keep a healthy level of skepticism regarding certain things (some which are to do with my own contacts too), I would advise the rest to do this as well. Take everything you read here with a grain of salt. If you resonate with the information provided here, that's great. If not, that's okay too.

Boy, you wrote a novel! Your stories are truly unbelievable.

You must have an incredible ability to memorize everything you experienced even though you claim to have been merely a tourist of spaceships. You memorized every event in unbelievable details right down to numerical values and with unbelievable details of the descriptions of 28 or so different species of extraterrestrials and description of every place you visited. Then you organized and ordered them precisely in chronological order.

One would have conjectured that such detailed statements could come from
- An author of science fictions,
- An extraterrestrial being, or
- A human-alien hybrid

Truly unbelievable!

Are there any reasons that these aliens you met did not provide their names? It seems that you yourself have created names of all these aliens you’ve encountered.

I’m not very observant, so I’m very curious as to know how in the world you were able to observe and memorize such detailed descriptions of all those aliens, even details that could not have been observed visually. Did you communicate with them specifically about their biological features and physiological functions, their governments, the geographic locations of their home planets in the galaxy, and their historical backgrounds?

Did your parents ever ask where you'd been during the time you spent with the extraterrestrials?

Did the ETs ever explain to you the purpose of their “visiting” our planet, even though they have their own planets elsewhere?

Did the ETs ever explain to you anything about the abduction phenomenon?

[OnyxKnight]

@ OnyxKnight

PS: EMVs - Designers of the Solar System - James Horak talks about how the beings in ancient time literally construct planets like Earth to house all the life forms using their advanced technologies.

Yes, the last time they were noticed coming from the direction of the constelation Auriga. I think Mr. Horak misinterpreted remnant machinery from the Founders, as one of these EMVs on which he built an entire mythology upon.

[OnyxKnight]

I have webbed feet, thats right, both. Could this have anything to do with aquatic DNA in me? As a kid, swimming under water,, if i took water in my mouth, it seemed like I could stay under longer.

It just means that either we have a partial amphibian ancestry or that genetics was somehow inserted in the total genome of this species. There are many people who have what I would say "water affinity". Could be that it may have been stronger in you (like other people), in comparison with the rest of us.


In one dream I had, these enourmous craft started descending from the sky, in my dream I thought to myself that they looked very similar to the Transformers in the movie. I knew when I saw them that they were sentient. Are there ET's that are like this and/can their crafts change shape from an enourmous ship into what would look like a earthling modern day vehicle but same size as the ship, while still in the air?
I woke up right after that, could this have been a abduction event?
thanks onyx, your information is very helpful
peace

Many of the star craft out there can change shapes, from the smallest to the largest. Its all about the level of sophisticated nanotechnology and flexible machinery involved. Yes, they can change shapes into things that are familiar to us. They mimic black helicopters sometimes (usually those used in black ops), or large planes, Boeing class etc., or Earth satellites, cars, construction machines etc. The size can change too, but not dramatically. So if one of those turns into a car, the actual craft shouldn't be too larger than the car it shaped in.

I forgot what was the name of that guy .... He did a video of what he observed through telescope or something, to be alien craft in space, changing colors, shapes, and moving with extreme speeds, and even attempting to mimic certain stars. I forgot the name of the guy, I remember his video being on youtube, it was amazing to watch. My contacts haven't shown me such flexible machinery so far.


Reading through this thread created vivid images of bright colors in my mind. So much details made me want to draw them all!

Onyx, somebody asked you this before, but i really want to know too, how are your artistic skills? Even if you don't have much skills, I would love to see doodles of the faces of the E.T. If you need help with art, feel free to PM me. Having images with the explanation would be a strong asset to your writings!

Many thanks on your detailed experiences, very well put and easy to read and comprehend.


How are your artistic skills? You mentioned that pictures were verboten, how about drawings of the various races and their craft? It would make for a fantastic visual companion to your story.

Hi Lazlo and Kerrigan

I used to be good at drawing and painting when I was a kid, but as I was growing up that "talent" got lost somehow, so I'm reviving it as of lately, and doing my best to refine those "skills". I can post some crude sketches but it won't help catch a good enough picture of the experience from a visual aspect.

I planned to work with different artists, 3D designers and animators to bring to life some of the personal experiences, and some of the events that were laid out to me through these contacts to life, either as a documentary or a "fictional" storyline. I thought of is as one way to bridge what I know through storytelling for others to see/hear/learn. Its better than to just read about it, when everything is actually told in a very entertainment-packed style.

I would love to PM you Kerrigan, but my inbox is full over its head (if it had one lol). I'll definitely contact you once I clean it up. I appreciate any help I can get. You are right, the visual is also important.


OnyxKnight,

Many thanks for your patience and your contributions.

Sol B: You have referenced this a few times. Are we in a binary star system in which our companion has inhabitated planets? If so, are these indigenous races? Does the orbit keep the companion sytem distant, or does it make a periodic approach to our star?

Sol B is an M9V red dwarf, smallest and faintest in its class, it barely ignited to become a dwarf star, since its on the borderline between red dwarfs and brown dwarfs. Allegedly, its visible from Mars' southern hemisphere.

It lies just outside the Oort Cloud. It has a slightly elliptical orbit taking it through the Oort Cloud and inside Sol A area. The periodic bumps in the Oort Cloud throw ice bodies outside and inside our Sun's system, and thus them becoming comets. At its closest approach is some 40.000 AU from Earth, so its not a danger to us directly. Some of the comets it causes may be directed at us, but we dodge most of them successfully.

It has a few bodies that orbit it, couple of which are inhabited by colonies of ET life. Some of my contacts claim they are a 'Reptoid' variant that was present here long ago, on Earth. The star has a strong gravitic field which is manipulated so that the entrance of the Oort Cloud is not detrimental to their colonies there on the planetoids.

[skippy]

Hello Onyx, Glad to see you posting. I've a question. Maybe you have some info about this. :-)

Are you, or any of your friends, aware of an artificial monolith on a moon of Mars...? Do you know who put it there?

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[OnyxKnight]

Hi Onyx,

Thank you for your post, it is wonderful. Your style of writing is artful.

Just a quick question in regards to the above, what is going on in Altair at the moment? Also are the Black project people out there getting taken out? (good job if they are)

Yes, there are other star systems where there is active war conflict, and similar bull**** going on like on Earth here, in this local corner of space. The main such conflict areas are Sirius B, Altair, and other star systems that we call 70 Ophiuchi, 82 G. Eridani, and Gliese 686. I don't know whats going on with these places right now, since I haven't had contact in a while, but the last information told me that the Ciakar Empire had successfully annexed a few planets in the system, on which one has indigenous life on them. The indigenous culture seems to have been a 'project' like us, and the entire planet that is their homeworld is artificially created too. The Ciakar and their proxy species have begun a hybridization process with the natives attempting to add the species to their Imperial collection. Representatives from the Orion Group were used to "prove" they have right to handle these territories, but the reason for the war conflict is the species that has grown on one of the planets, and there is no way to circumvent and excuse deliberate tampering with a species' genetic code, enslaving them and their later exploitation.

There are human ET elements living on the planets closer to the star, establishing bases of operation there, since the system offers ways to travel to other systems, so it makes it a pivotal place alongside Sirius and Procyon as important , crucial places in terms of tactics and strategy. And yes, Black Ops people are the ones that collaborate with the Orion Group present there. They offered a piece of the pie, if we (I mean the black ops elements), help them with hitech weaponry system and defend the ground from "violent takeover". They actually believe the species are facing extinction, that they hybridization program is to help them, and that the aggressors are the human ET elements situated in the inner planets. Like I mentioned before, we are not the only ones heavily brainwashed into adopting certain values, attitudes, "facts" as truths. So far, to my knowledge, the KBA hasn't moved away from our Solar System, and the "bad" guys are still doing what they do there.


There have been updates on this particular issue.


I'm pleased to say that the Gliese 686 and 82 G. Eridani systems are no longer in state of war. The Gliese 686 beings settled their internal matters peacefully, and the core world of the Eridanus League is being left alone by the Hydra Magestrate. The 'Reptoids' from 70 Ophiuchi system still engage in conflicts with the people of Barnard's Star sadly. Sirius B has a more calm atmosphere with the internal struggle going on. And a new world, situated in the Theta Draconis system is being fought over by members of the 'Allied Worlds' and the Draco Expansion.


As far as Altair goes:


The latest information regarding Altair says that the Orion Consortium has successfully managed to annex the entire star system, including the planets that were formerly taken over by the Draco Empire, including the one on which the intelligent species was living on. The Orions used the situation with Theta Draconis, and the 'ciakar's preoccupation there fighting off the 'Allied Worlds', to snatch the system for themselves. Representatives from the Orion Consortium also offered "proof" that they have the right to handle these territories, including handling the species that lives on it. They (the Orions) have terminated the hybridization program. But in doing so, they would have to repair the damage already done, so they started genetic experimentation program, where they tried to restore the species to its former selves (a surprising move for the 'Allied Worlds').

Through this involvement and manipulation of the species there (I found out they are referred to as 'makenta' by some of the groups I've been in contact with) by the human elements and controlling extraterrestrial factors, it was found out that they don't share the complete biological ancestry with the planet's biosphere as it was originally thought - Meaning they are an engineered species, just like us. I already talked about this. But why is this important to mentioned again? Some of the treaties signed in the 'Association of Planets', depending on which system is discussed, if the biosphere on that planet didn't came naturally, and is a 'pet project' that nobody claimed responsibility for, and is just left there to be, it is allowed for another extraterrestrial species to colonize the planet if they have the necessary solid argument for that.

And guess what? It seems overpopulation and lack of resources is a good enough argument, especially if the planet in question is big enough for both parties to live. It just so happens that the humanoid people from Barnard's Star who just like us, are used as pawns by the Ursa Minor Conglomerate (who in turn work with the Orion Consortium) needed that planet for colozation purposes (they are facing an overpopulation problem back on their homeworld) Its the only available planet they can use currently. Funny though, that the Ursa Minor conglomerate doesn't help them with their conflict with 70 Ophiuchi 'Reptoids' (maybe because those 'reptoids' are product of the Orion Consortium).

The planets more near to the sun are now occupied by composite colonies of several Orion Consortium members as well as Ursa Minor Conglomerate elements. The neutral humanoid groups there have since left. Apparently, the Orion Consortium excused themselves for being there with "mining projects" too. That's how they tricked the Draco installations. The 'makenta' though forbid the mining of the moons and their own planet as well because of religious reasons, and the Orion Consortium, other than immense interest in the species itself, wants some rare minerals there that only occur in the star fusion process like that of Altair (a light blue star). Sirius A is the only other such star in this local area of space where one could find some similar things, but they don't have the green light to mine there, and besides, the Sirians are hungry for these minerals and elements too, perhaps because the same ones are short on the planets in their own system. When I say Sirians, I'm not dismissing any of the first three letters or the English alphabet associated with them. That's how complicated it is. Messy, messy business.

The experiments involving the 'makenta', have shown a subsequent discovery that unlike us, who have the status of 'quarantine' (and so any extraterrestrial influence that significantly damages our species' chances of developing conscious and responsible attitude is to be dealt with and forbidden contact), the 'makenta' hold no such status, so they can be considered an 'unnatural property' of the planet, and therefore "used". 'Property' because the system was claimed territorially by the Orion Consortium up until the discovery of the 'makenta' there. Since they didn't naturally came to be, the star system, and planet, aren't their own, by the rules of the Orion Consortium, who claimed that piece of territory before the makenta became an intelligent species at all, before most of the biosphere was barely there on the planet. The 'Association of Worlds' holds respect to other culture's beliefs and regulations, as long as they don't break cardinal rules held by all 'Association' members when it comes to life, and that is - a naturally evolving species has a right to their own planet, unhindered, undisturbed, unprovoked. There are conflicts trying to liberate that system, stemming from a few members of the 'Association', but its not going so smoothly as thought. By intervening, the 'Association' breaks their agreements and treaties, as well as some of their cardinal rules, and as such, if they don't abide their own rules why should anyone else? Its a death blow to exoplotics and diplomatic solutions.

After that discovery, here's another blow - Since the Draco Empire's engagement there in the 1800s, along with the human elements, Orion Consortium and the Ursa Minor Congl. - Through their genetic experiments they unlocked a few secrets - the 'makenta' have 'reptoid' strains in them that they have carried since their first appearance on the planet. 'Reptoid' strains that are very, very old, genetically archaic. They even surpass the origin databanks the Orion Consortium has on the 'ciakar'/ruling class of 'Reptoids', and their age. Which means the 'ciakar' aren't the oldest 'Reptoid' species and there was someone before them, who instead of enslaving other species, created new ones, and planted them in different star systems (which goes against their philosophy/religion). The Orions were afraid the 'ciakar' will eventually destroy the planet in order to salvage their religious beliefs from falling in water, after the initial hybridization experiments were done. Perhaps using a morphed version of the species, and destroying everything else, including the entire planet, so every proof of that is gone.

Depending on how important this planet is to either party, they may end up fighting each other (Orions vs. Dracos). That would be one fun outcome. Instead of fighting the 'Association' they'd be fighting each other, the Draco Empire would lose valuable parties like the Orion Consortium, and with it - the Ursa Minor Conglomerate and Ursa Major Group, who are like the bra and panties for the Orions. They are busy fighting their war in the area of Theta Draconis, trying to push forward towards our Solar System. If they find out about the take over, they would invest all they have to breach the defense and reach Altair. I think they would even forget about us for a while lol.

Through the whole abduction/genetic experiments drama, the 'makenta' also gained knowledge how to use hard materials to construct more durable buildings, how to harness solar power, and defend themselves (they started inventing better weapons to fight humans and other extraterrestrial elements), and something odd happened - they started showing psionic abilities (telepathy, telekinesis, and biomagnetism). Through calculations of observing parties, they estimated that the 'makenta' would reach this level a lot later, so later in fact, when Altair starts to become a red giant.

Like in our case, external influence acted as a catalyst to an already existing process of evolution of a species. While in no way have the 'Allied Worlds' or the 'Association' given up on Altair, most right now just observe from distance the weird development of this species. There is one example that I was mentioned, where a species actually evolved faster through wars and conflicts with another one, while in a parallel universe where that other species didn't exist, the first one died off through social disintegration and chaos from fighting with each other. Its really weird how the universe works sometimes. They wish to see how things would develop. Perhaps this negative situation may bring forward something of a positive attribute to this species. It was a tough choice for the members of A.W. too. Choose the lesser evil, less damage etc.

[Hughe]

@OnyxKnight

I assume "this species" means mankind on Earth?

I think seriously if advanced beings that care about humans at certain degree, they would tell some objective facts that can be verified. I have hard scientific questions which probably closer to the truth.

When we go out to empty space, we won't see bright stars. The space will be pitch black due to lack of medium that reflects light. Basically without advanced instrument such as IR or UV sensors, navigating space on naked eyes is impossible.

Stars like our sun doesn't get energy from thermal nuclear fusion. Even if it will have such reaction, it's energy production ratio to overall is marginal. Sun is a big plasma ball that is part of the milkyway electric circuit. Other stars do the same. It draws plasma and particles and electric energy around the space then whenever conditions are right, phenomena is triggered. Stars produces energy by cold fusion technically.

Black Holes do not exist. Instead White Holes where new matters and celestial bodies are created and born are abundant in universe. Black Holes were invented by few stupid, delusional scientists who believed in Einstein's Relative is absolutely right. Then other repeaters, so so scientists took it as fact. Our milkyway supposedly have super Black Hole at the core but they won't find it instead White Hole actually ejects various energy and matter.
I skip Earthling's version of why Black Holes is impossible.

The speed of gravity is many many million times faster than speed of light, which means direct violation against the Special theory of Relativity. Gravity acts almost instantaneously objects that are close range. Also gravity weakens by distance and blocked by matters on its path. Issac Newton assumed gravity would exert its force across the universe with infinite speed. Well he was wrong and limitation but why scientists never raised questions about it over 300 years instead twenty some individuals?

Gravity can't bend light.

All Earth like planets are hollow in nature and its volume expands gradually as it gets older. In worst case, a planet will explode after it reaches the threshold like a rubber balloon.

Earth like planets that house life forms, serves as the Mother Earth, naturally have levitation which is opposite to gravity. Viktor Schauberger discovered that bio-magnetic energy moves upwards against gravitational pull. A typical example is trees.

Time, the product of consciousness, is energy also. Energy is everywhere on Earth and space.

End of questions here.
(Above list is 1/5th of my FAQs.)

[Hamish]

Hi OnyxKnight

Thank you so much for putting so much time to inform us of your contacts and knowledge.

I wonder if your contacts have made any comments on the following and or further comments:

1. Any further news/beliefs etc on how humanity's timelines for 2013/2014 is going to be seen as. You noted in March 2011 the following about this year which I believe we can see in various parts of the world.
dissatisfaction with this system, formation of various truth movements, revolutions, fights for freedom will increase almost exponentially at the start of 2013.

2. Any knowledge regarding the humans known as "starchilds"

3. Any comments from your contacts regarding the size of human population. I.e possible concerns etc.

Thanks

[meat suit]

Onyx,
always glad to see you updating your thread here...:cool:

quote:
(I forgot what was the name of that guy .... He did a video of what he observed through telescope or something, to be alien craft in space, changing colors, shapes, and moving with extreme speeds, and even attempting to mimic certain stars. I forgot the name of the guy, I remember his video being on youtube, it was amazing to watch. My contacts haven't shown me such flexible machinery so far.)

you are probably thinking of John Lemard Walson http://www.youtube.com/user/JohnLenardWalson

cheers

meat

[apokalypse]

Is there an advance civilization on the same level or above of Star Trek Science(i'm talking about science, technologies and the physics behind it) but they live on a society just like us and condition life of their planet just like us? if yes, how it doing?

i'm recent into star trek and just watch few episode, i come to conclusion once we reach at that stage of advancement have robots to work for us and have technologies able to provide everything for our basics need Food-Water-Shelter then we must require spirituality. this is one of my most concern of humanity on planet earth, we tent to much focus on advancement of science and technologies also other crap like materialistic but we ignore spirituality and take responsibility. I just can't see it how anyone going to live in 24th+ society and anyone being Advance Civilization without being Spiritual...

how many aliens race(include good guys and bad guys) on planet earth right now? is there genuine et's race want to help us without any agenda or issues/mistake/problems from the past or future so they have to come and fix it?

on Earth we have all types of games for recreation like shooting like Halo-COD-WarCraft...ect and these days Massively multiplayer Online becomes a trend. Do they have something in similar? we play for fun, since they are so advance they could have it not only for fun but also for training. they could have create real life scenario and and have real life technologies into Virtual reality computer simulated Environment. i can imagine what MMO could be like...all type of Et's join MMO for fun and training at same time.

[Daozen]

I've followed your posts since you started threads at Icke's forum OnyxKinight. Cheers for all your typing.

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I wondered if you had any updates this September... I guess I'm specifically interested in:

- The taking down of the various 'negative grids' around Earth.
- The current strength of the negative empires. Are they advancing or retreating?
- If the stories of Helios, the civilization on the sun, are true. And are they helping out here?

Thanks if you get time to answer...

[Newlyn]

Mars Base?
I had some details regarding Martian history in the time when alien civilizations were present there, but the friend who had some notes with a quite a few details on that didn't show up to give them to me, and he is not responding to my phone calls and numerous emails. If I get in touch with him, I will quote this post and add those bits of information too. Thank you for your patience Bill, and the rest of you guys.

Great that you are back writing here on this thread :)

Did you get those notes from your friend yet? I am interested in Mars, and it´s history. Is it true that it's habitants blew up the atmosphere? What is the connection with Mars and the Nazis?

Drunvalo and Dolores Cannon both gives information that after the marsians blew up the atmosphere of Mars, they became a part of the human evolution and join the earth soul group. This is maybe difficult for you to affirm, since it is on a more soul-level, but did you hear about this? And that this group from mars affected earth into a more seperation, warlike way of being, seing themselves as a superiour race. Much like the nazis, who were very interested in Mars. They still are, in order to verify old nazi documents about their origin, according to Hoagland.

Drunvalo say that the marsians a s a soulgroup kind of forced themselves into earth as a soulgroup, while the allways so brightsided Dolores Cannon say that Mother Earth invited them in.

Thank you! You are fantastic :)

Btw, I was in your country just a while ago. Since me myself live in Ljubljana, maybe possible to make a meeting? I am right now arranging a group in the city to ponder in metaphysical and spiritual and all kind of topics. Well, all the best!

/Albin

[Rocky_Shorz]

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are Sasquatches inter-dimensional beings?

brown suit, blue dude inside, almost looked electrical...

put an antique necklace on my seer friend, and opened viewing continuously, had a couple Squatches kicking back on my patio in chairs across from ours I asked one to take off a suit, and it was the blue dude...

what can you tell me about these stones...

[Gatita]

Lots of information. I need to think about it, then read it again.

Gatita

[carriellbee]

Hello OnyxKnight and everyone! I am hoping that you will be able to shed some light on what type of alien this is. The video and photos are mine. From what I have been able to ascertain, it is some sort of alpha draconian, but as this is my only (remembered) contact with any type of entity, I am just not sure. The alien orb first appears in the video at 1:20 and can be more clearly seen beginning at 1:28, though I do suggest watching the whole video. I think it is also noteworthy that of the hundreds of orbs I have seen since then, I have yet to see another face that is as well-defined as this one... Thank you in advance!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpgvXNjkNjw

-carrie

[Becky]

2313223132
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are Sasquatches inter-dimensional beings?

brown suit, blue dude inside, almost looked electrical...

put an antique necklace on my seer friend, and opened viewing continuously, had a couple Squatches kicking back on my patio in chairs across from ours I asked one to take off a suit, and it was the blue dude...

what can you tell me about these stones...


Hi Rocky, I think those stones are Larimar (the square stone) and 2 aquamarine. Both larimar and aquamarine are linked with the sea - hence the crab shape probably.
Becky

[MariaDine]

Hi Onyx, Rocky has mentioned my son to you and I've just found your thread.

He remembers working with what he calls jelly people who had something to do with the Ark.

He also has dreams where he meets sasquatch, at the moment he says they are suffering from some sort of disease which is causing their hair to drop out/rot. He's only 9yr so his descriptions can be vague. They have a cure that 'his' sasquatch is using to heal the members of his village, a herbal mixture. It's taking about a week to work. Do you know anything about this?

My daughter has also had contact in her dreams with an under water civilisation who she believes are here on Earth in this dimension.

The description of them is blue, their faces are humanoid, the skull at the front is normal shape but has an oversized fleshy addition at the back where she says energy is stored. They wear a headband with a large crystal at the front and one at each side of their head.

Their bodies are no different from us except their index finger is longer and they use it for healing and used it to clear her thoughts so she could communicate with them. She's played with the children who grow up with a crystal that they have from birth.

They have a huge energy ball inside their city, she describes as big as a room which is powered by a crystal where they 'feed' from by literally grabbing hold of a handful of energy and swallowing it.

The underwater city has been attacked because the 'goverment' are after the crystal. She also saw them build up an energy vortex/whirlpool which they sent up to the 'submarine/underwater craft' that was attacking them.

Any feedback would be much appreciated, I am always open and believe what they experience is true to them but I'm also aware that kids have a great imagination.

Thanks Zoe

I have read about this in several blogs and sites.... people who have remote viewing habilities, people who have been seen those cities in meditations , there are also legends from India and from Tibet about them,
In Portugal many UFO's have been seen coming from the sea , some of them very near the coast...

[MariaDine]

Mars Base?
I had some details regarding Martian history in the time when alien civilizations were present there, but the friend who had some notes with a quite a few details on that didn't show up to give them to me, and he is not responding to my phone calls and numerous emails. If I get in touch with him, I will quote this post and add those bits of information too. Thank you for your patience Bill, and the rest of you guys.

Great that you are back writing here on this thread :)

Did you get those notes from your friend yet? I am interested in Mars, and it´s history. Is it true that it's habitants blew up the atmosphere? What is the connection with Mars and the Nazis?

Drunvalo and Dolores Cannon both gives information that after the marsians blew up the atmosphere of Mars, they became a part of the human evolution and join the earth soul group. This is maybe difficult for you to affirm, since it is on a more soul-level, but did you hear about this? And that this group from mars affected earth into a more seperation, warlike way of being, seing themselves as a superiour race. Much like the nazis, who were very interested in Mars. They still are, in order to verify old nazi documents about their origin, according to Hoagland.

Drunvalo say that the marsians a s a soulgroup kind of forced themselves into earth as a soulgroup, while the allways so brightsided Dolores Cannon say that Mother Earth invited them in.

Thank you! You are fantastic :)

Btw, I was in your country just a while ago. Since me myself live in Ljubljana, maybe possible to make a meeting? I am right now arranging a group in the city to ponder in metaphysical and spiritual and all kind of topics. Well, all the best!

/Albin

SOME INFO IN CORRELATION

Did T. Lobsang Rampa actually go buzzing through the solar system in a flying saucer? Or was he just another deluded psychopath dredging up a good yarn from the dark depths of a twisted mind? If he was a nut, he had plenty of company. Men (and some women) have been circumnavigating the cosmos for thousands of years, leaving extensive records of their travels behind for us to puzzle over. Even Enoch, the traditional son of Cain and father of Methuselah, is supposed to have visited other worlds where he had such harrowing experiences that they became a part of religion and folklore. According to the Books of Enoch, which were once part of the Christian bible, he was sleeping alone in his house one night when he was suddenly awakened by “two men, exceedingly big, so that I never saw such on earth... They were standing at the head of my couch and began to call me by my name.”
The two giant entities plucked Enoch from his bed and escorted him into outer space where, during the next sixty days, they gave him a guided tour of ten different worlds. Some were occupied by deliriously happy people while others were gloomy and dark, filled with Gregori... wretched gray beings with withered faces who mumbled and marked in dreariness. Enoch saw worlds of dazzling lights and allergy too. He was the first space traveler. He was also the first abductee. Although he supposedly underwent those adventures more than 4,000 years ago, copies of his “books”(scrolls) were smuggled out of Russia about 1,500 years ago. Since then, thousands of other people have claimed almost identical experiences. Indeed, the beginning of Whitley Streiber’s COMMUNION, the big bestseller of 1987, is un-easily similar to Enoch’s account.

A great Swedish seer, Emanuel Swedenborg, went floundering around the cosmos in the 1700’s, leaving behind a score of ponderous books written in Latin. Apparently, he was a powerful psychic and astral projectionist. Many of his experiences were undoubtedly what we now call OBE’s (out of body experiences). Like Enoch, many modern OBE’s begin when the percipient is seemingly aroused from a sound sleep and finds himself confronted with a guide who resembles an Indian, a giant, a dwarf, an ethereal spirit or even a space entity. This guide then takes the percipient on a wonderful tour of a very realistic universe. It doesn’t seem to be a dream but there are many dreamlike qualities. For example, the tour may seem to take many hours, even days,but when the percipient is returned to his bed he finds only a few minutes have passed. This happened to Enoch and Swedenborg. The process can also be reversed. The experience may seem to be short but when the percipient returns he finds he has been gone for days, weeks, even years. Earth time loses its meaning in these adventures.

For most of his life, Swedenborg was a scientist, mathematician and mining engineer. Then, suddenly, at the age of fifty-six, he underwent the classic Cosmic Illumination process when powerful visions and psychic insights revolutionized his thinking and changed his entire life almost overnight.

The dull, middle-aged man of science suddenly became aware of the great universe of energies that surrounds all of us. And, like so many other victims of Cosmic Illumination, he abandoned his former life completely. His friends and relatives thought he had gone bananas. He claimed that he had visited Jupiter and other planets. And he professed to have daily conversations with the spirits of great men from the past. He often fell into trances that sometimes lasted as long as three days, much to the alarm of the people around him. Of course, during some of these trances he became the victim of missing time. That is, his brain was unable to account for long periods of time or supplied confabulations (false memories) to fill in the gaps. This “missing time”phenomenon has been happening wholesale in the 20th century and whole cults have sprung up around the confabulations produced by the percipients. Lacuna amnesia, the medical term for this, has become a serious study for many doctors and psychiatrists and hundreds of technical books have been written about it.

Did Enoch and Swedenborg actually visit heaven, hell and all the myriad worlds in between? It’s not very likely. But their minds did take trips stimulated, perhaps, by the mysterious forces which seem to control the human race and are actually able to distort our reality. These forces have been given a thousand names over the centuries and have been credited with all kinds of wonders, miracles and catastrophes.
“Man is so created,” Swedenborg noted, “as to live simultaneously in the natural world and in the spiritual world.Thus he has an internal and an external nature or mind...of the interior state of the mind, or of his internal man, man knows nothing whatever and though infinite things are there, not one of them rises to man’s cognizance.”

Swedenborg astonished his friends with precise prophecies of future events. He was even able to accurately describe events that were occurring hundreds of miles away at that exact moment. He traveled in the highest circles, mixing with Royal court circles and the wealthiest people of his time. But his books were poorly received during his life-time. After he died, at the age of 84, his work became the center of a religion that flourishes to this day. And his books have been translated into many languages and are easily obtainable through the various Swedenborgian Foundations and churches around the world. So here is a “contactee” who has survived for almost four hundred years! There have been many others.

Several years ago, I was mysteriously drawn to a cemetery on Long Island after a rash of strange phone calls and eerie instructions from various UFO contactees. Following their directions, I found myself standing among the tombstones ofa family named Denton. But I didn’t understand why. So later, on one of my many visits to the musty book stacks in the cavernous New York Public Library, I decided to see if I could locate any information on the Denton family. I was flabbergasted by what I discovered.

Back in the 1860’s, shortly after the Civil War, the Denton family of Wellesley, Massachusetts began to visit Venus and other planets! They did it psychically, with their mind’s eye, according to William Denton. His son Sherman was the first to establish contact in 1866. Venus was very prominent in the sky and Sherman just closed his eyes and, according to his father, “described trees, animals that were half fish and half muskrat, and water that was heavy but not wet. This was the first of a number of experiments in outer space, achieved by choosing the object, then closing the eyes.”

Sherman’s next trip was to Mars where he saw flying machines made of aluminum. Public interest in the Denton family’s adventures soared.Mrs. Denton was soon fluttering around the solar system too, while Papa Denton wrote a series of best-selling books.“A telescope,” he observed, “only enables us to see; but the spiritual faculties enable their possessors to hear, smell, taste and feel, and become for the time being, almost inhabitants of the planet they were examining.”

The Denton family hit the road with the act and, for the next several years, they played theaters all over the country, peddling their books in the fashion of the medicine shows popular during that period. They took advantage of the New Age craze that was sweeping America in the aftermath of the Civil War and the amazing rise of Spiritualism. Everyone everywhere was suddenly aware of Swedenborg’s “internal man” and before the century ended, most were chatting with spirits, Atlanteans, Indian guides, Ashtar and assorted space entities. Astral projectionists everywhere were zooming around to the backside of the moon and frolicking on the satellites of Jupiter.

The next New Age revival took place in the aftermath of World War I. The boys who failed to come home in 1918 began conversing with their loved ones through spirit mediums and spiritualism again became the rage. (Spiritualism began in 1848 and has had many revivals since.) Harry Houdini saved his flagging career by exposing some of the many phony spiritualists who claimed they had visited distant planets, particularly Mars. Mars was a favorite of the Sunday supplements because bearded astronomers of great repute claimed they could see broad canals and even cities on the faraway body.

Our space probes of the 1960’s and 70’s proved that they were wrong and that there is apparently no sign of intelligent life anywhere in this solar system. However, astronauts gazing back at the earth from deep space did discern peculiar grid marks in North America that suggested some kind of intelligence. It turned out that the grid marks were logging roads in northern Canada. Except for those roads, there is no other visible sign of life on our own planet!

Following World War II, there was another big revival of interest in things spiritual and a whole new New Age movement sprang up in the 1950’s. These New Agers were preoccupied with flying saucers and the space brethren who were issuing stern warnings about our atomic follies. We were told to shape up or ship out. And some of us went! There were growing numbers of contactees all over the world who claimed they had been flown to other planets in flying saucers. Thousands of others were complaining about being seized by hypnotic-like trances and losing time. The phenomena were so widespread and so bizarre that no government could deal with them. Investigating the manifestations was an impossible task. Even more impossible was the task of interpreting what was going on. Hard facts were few. Speculations were rife. Scientists who attempted to study what was going on soon were at each other’s throats. Civilian groups ended up battling meaningless windmills...and each other. Because no government would confirm their personal theories, they assumed the governments of the world were engaged in a massive cover-up. The French government did finance civilian investigatory efforts in the1970’s. The result was that the French civilian ufologists soon decided there were no UFOs and the whole French movement collapsed in a sea of disgruntled blarney.

Here in the U.S., a sign painter named Allen Noonan fell off a ladder, banged his head and found he had awakened strange psychic abilities in himself. He was soon communicating with space people and undergoing all kinds of strange experiences.

In Holland, a man named Peter Hurkos also fell on his skull and the accident turned him into a world famous psychic who has spent his life helping police solve crimes.

In 1947, in England, a struggling British writer named Cyril Hoskin told his astonished wife that he had decided to change his name. A few months later, Cyril Hoskin became Carl Kuon Suo by court order. But he found he was just as unemployable as Kuon Sou as he had been as Hoskin. Life was a tiresome struggle even though he felt a strange compulsion to adopt Oriental ways. He became confused mentally, abandoned his home and moved to a distant district where he was troubled by hallucinations (by his own admission later) and developed a kind of split personality, the Englishman being slowly replaced by an Oriental entity while his appalled wife watched. Then, on June 13, 1949, while climbing a ladder in his garden, Carl Kuon Suo fell and cracked his head, suffering a mild concussion. When he recovered, the Englishman was gone and had been replaced by a Tibetan with full memories of growing up in Tibet!
In 1949, Tibet was still one of the most remote and inaccessible places on Earth. Only a handful of Westerners had ever been there. It was a forbidden mountain kingdom.

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ted to answer his critics. The newspapers would not give him any space and only one television station offered t ointerview him provided he followed a script they wrote!

For the rest of his life he repeatedly insisted that all his claims were true. But the British press delightedly pointed out that he was an unemployed Englishman named Cyril Hoskin who had never once set foot outside Great Britain.The controversy raged for years and the press finally droveTuesday Lobsang Rampa out of England to Canada where he spent his remaining days.

His wife later wrote, “Although The Third Eye has beens uch a great success and brought enlightenment to many, my husband never wanted to write it. Instead he hoped to obtain a position which would provide an adequate income so that he could avoid publicity and the limelight... Being un-able to obtain employment, there was no alternative to writing The Third Eye, which is absolutely true, and he is satisfied that it has been a means of bringing help, comfort and assurance to many.”

Once he was a famous Tibetan author, Tuesday Lobsang Rampa wrote other books, including the one now in you rhands. This book was, in fact, chapters deleted from one of his other works. It was discovered by the late Gray Barker, who rescued it from total oblivion. It is possible, of course, that it is total hogwash. It is also possible that it is a description of an O.B.E., like so much of Lobsang’s work purports to be. Certainly, it is at least as valid as Swedenborg’s visits to Jupiter, Enoch’s travels among the Gregori and William Denton’s excursions to Venus. It may be that there is a curtain of magnetic frequencies between our reality and some other, greater universe that only a few are privileged to see. And everything indicates that T. Lobsang Rampawas one of them.

[observer]

I intend this comment as no disrespect for Onyx. He has backed-up comments I've made in other threads, for which I am most grateful.

Is what Maria has posted in her comment #399 (above) a vindication of the reports from these psychic individuals? Or, is the most likely interpretation of all understanding concerning this Implanted Mental Images Phenomenon just another example of an hyperdimensional manipulation of the "Field"?

As I've pointed-out so many times in other threads: that which has been referenced throughout history as the Astral Plane, or The Aethers, or the Astral World, or the Akashic Records, or any of the many other names applied to this concept, is nothing more than what modern Quantum Physicists refer to as the "Quantum Field (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?56913-What-controls-the-hologram)", or "The Field of Infinite Potental".

Any individual reporting on the revelations contained within his own psyche is making a report that is valid only to that individual. Making such reports as the undisputed word of God - or whomever - is misleading at least.

This Implanted Mental Thoughts Phenomenon (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?65207-How-The-Anunnaki-Prevent-Disclosure&p=755329&viewfull=1#post755329)is the tool through which the Mass of Humanity is manipulated - has always been manipulated.

The most convincing way to report on an experience is to produce some sort of objective evidence to the event, i.e., physical objects, documents (possibly printed on some sort of off-planet material), photographs, video documentation, witnesses, etc.

Outside of any supporting evidence, one can only conclude the report to be a figment of the reporter's imagination - or more dastardly, a purposefully manipulated experience from forces outside of our perceptions.

[chinchillete]

@OnyxKnight

Alexander thank you very much for all the information provided in this thread! I hope you are doing well!

What can you tell us about Area 51? Recently the US went public with the news that the Area 51 does exists but they still hide all the information we want to know... Are there ET races working along humans in this place? What do you think about Bob Lazar and his experiences? Have you ever read the book "The catchers of Heavens" by Michael Wolf? If so what do you think about his stories? (he says that the grey in the cover of the book was an actual picture he took of the being... can you recognize it?)

I believe everything you have share here and I can't wait to get more info! THANK YOU!

[swoods_blue]

What an incredible mine of information. I thank OnyxKnight for the time he has invested here, and hope he has the opportunity to invest more in the future. Many good questions have been posed, so I will refrain from adding too many of my own.

One thing that I've wondered about is this: Bill Ryan entered this thread and posed some gently skeptical questions. But that was apparently the last contribution he has made here (unless I've missed something). I wonder if OnyxKnight's information does not resonate with him? Mods? Anyone?

Again, thanks to all who have contributed here.

[cfho83]

wow, i wish that i could make the contact that you have. i kinda get the vibe that you and simon parkes have had some amazing experiences. telepathy does seem like the simplest way to communicate period. its just the matter of developing it, or it may be a genetic flaw to keep us from advancing to fast. but i wish i could make positive contact. thanks for sharing...

[birddog]

I should speak with you as I also have a tail,..just extra vertebrae, and I have traveled with the Galactic Confederation and I am able to contact them with telepathy. Have traveled in space extensively..they even replicated my 2 bedroom cottage that I shared with my fiance in Ohio aboard ship. The only difference in the cottage was that there was a red light control panel in the bathroom on the wall with about 100 lights on it. That's when I realized that I wasn't at home anymore. I have seen about 40 or more different other world beings. Most are humanoid and stand on 2 legs.

[kemo]

Wow birddog. Tell us more please. Or start a new thread?

[ALLiTiZ]

I should speak with you as I also have a tail,..just extra vertebrae, and I have traveled with the Galactic Confederation and I am able to contact them with telepathy. Have traveled in space extensively..they even replicated my 2 bedroom cottage that I shared with my fiance in Ohio aboard ship. The only difference in the cottage was that there was a red light control panel in the bathroom on the wall with about 100 lights on it. That's when I realized that I wasn't at home anymore. I have seen about 40 or more different other world beings. Most are humanoid and stand on 2 legs.
birddog you should speak with all of us, we'd love to hear your story as kemo stated.

[MorningFox]

DNA



What little do we know about DNA, is just that - little. The general research on DNA thus far has focused dominantly on that 10% DNA that its active in our body and that we do use it. Even there, there are a few "key spots" who - if turned on - will awake some amazing properties and traits stored in our DNA. Rapid muscle development gene (ever wondered why almost all of the human-like ETs appear very muscular, and in-shape? Now you know), turning off another already present gene, results in slowing down the aging process tremendously etc.

I will focus more here on the 'Shadow' DNA (also referred to as "Junk" DNA).

According to the ETs, genetic codes are the 'programs' of life, or the 'software' of life, if you will. And as any software, the DNA can be re-programmed, activate certain codes, turn off others, have an entire hidden usage the "Computer" itself is not aware of, nor any "user" of this "Computer". They explained that to me, in this specific analogy, because they thought it is the most understandable to most humans, especially younger ones.

As any other "Computer", we, as "biological computers", are subject to "virus programs" and various forms of "malware", or if a "program" was "installed" to run the "Computer" differently than its original intended purpose.

To my understanding, 24 different races have been, and/or, some are still presently, involved, in our creation, and provolution/uplift (in other words, "assisted evolution"). They consider evolution analogous to "genetic form of Ascension process", that works in parallel with the spiritual/conscious (or energetic) version of what we deem to be "Ascension". Its about further development of your energetic and physical counterpart, from more simple form to a more complex one. Try looking at "Ascension" as a 'spiritual evolution' of a sort. I will get into that in another lengthier post.

Those 24 races took an evolving creature that reminds closely of the earthly lemur (though smaller, and quite different looking) and after various experiments in creating other life forms that would populate the planet, they create the human prototypes. I will expand more on the creation of mankind in another lengthier post. Its enough to say that we have two main, and ten additional DNA strands, 5 connected to each main one. Only the two main ones were made to be active at first. Later, in an incident that happens in Lemuria, with the "Garden of Eden" (On which I will explain things in detail) the remainder of the DNA strands are activated, which grants us God-like powers, and in a sense, more powerful than those who created us. Because not all were happy about it, in the course of time, through genetic manipulation and genetic degradation, we have came to be like we are today. With two main DNA strands, and everything else turned into a DNA soup, many thought was useless, till recently.

The DNA can also be influenced by vibration, light, and other types of energy and energetic frequencies. The effects are not always apparent in the individual, but sometimes they are reflected in their progeny. I have been told that, for example, electro-magnetic waves are the most potent sender of encoded information, when we talk about DNA, and storing it inside our body, in the form of additional genetic information, who today, because of the way we have been manipulated genetically, results in additional "Junk" DNA. Also, if I remember well, David Wilcock mentioned some research done by Russian scientists involving DNA, and the Mind (As seprate from the brain), and it coincided very well, with what I have been told. The only people I have find out that are close to what the real nature of DNA is, especially the "Junk" DNA, are Pjotr Garjajev, Vladimir Poponin, Peter Gariaev, Gennady Komissarov and Anatoly Vasiliev. Their work is very, very close to the real nature of DNA. I advise people to read whatever they can get regarding their research.

Here are some small parts I found in their material, that are truthful:


In 2005 a group conducted by P. Gariaev in Russia performed the following experiment. DNA samples were exposed to electromagnetic fields in certain frequency ranges. As a result, various luminous wave structures were created in the air nearby. They were recorded on film. These amazing phantom structures were found to move along complicated trajectories. Moreover, they mimicked the shape of the DNA sample and some objects surrounding it.

http://www.emergentmind.org/new_pa5.jpg


The Russian biophysicist and molecular biologist Pjotr Garjajev and his colleagues also explored the vibrational behavior of DNA. In brief the bottom line was: "Living chromosomes function just like a holographic computer using endogenous DNA laser radiation." This means that they managed, for example, to modulate certain frequency patterns (sound) onto a laser-like ray which influenced DNA frequency and thus the genetic information itself.


While western researchers cut single genes from DNA strands and insert them elsewhere, the Russians enthusiastically created devices that influence cellular metabolism through modulated radio and light frequencies, thus repairing genetic defects.


They even captured information patterns of a particular DNA and transmitted it onto another, thus reprogramming cells to another genome. So they successfully transformed, for example, frog embryos to salamander embryos simply by transmitting the DNA information patterns! This way the entire information was transmitted without any of the side effects or disharmonies encountered when cutting out and re-introducing single genes from the DNA.


This model is suggested as the basis for a more general nonlinear quantum theory which may explain many of the observed subtle energy phenomena and eventually could provide a physical theory of consciousness


Apparently, DNA is also an organic superconductor that can work at normal body temperature, as opposed to artificial superconductors which require extremely low temperatures between -200 and -140°C to function. In addition, all superconductors are able to store light and thus information. This further explains how DNA can store information.


To create an organism, two genetic programs are required. The first one is geometric, i.e. a scheme, how to design the body. The second program is in the form of a meaningful text which contains instructions and explanations how to use the first program, how to understand and build the organism. These programs exist in the form of “DNA video tapes”, which are used by the genetic apparatus, acting like a bio-computer. When the bio-computer reads these video tapes, sound and light images appear that constitute the movie program of the development of the organism. When the creation of a grown-up organism is completed, the movie ends. Then the second movie starts, which contains the instructions for maintenance of the organism for indefinitely long time. Unfortunately, the videotapes containing information about a perfectly healthy organism, get corrupted with time, errors accumulate (DNA mutations). The instructions accumulate errors and the organism gets sick, grows old and dies. It is very likely that these DNA video tapes can be renewed and corrected. With this new understanding of how our genetic apparatus works, completely new technologies for healing a person and extending a person’s life become feasible. And this is the essence of Wave Genetics and its practical applications to come.


For instance, studies have found that mutations in certain parts of the non-coding regions lead to cancer. Physicists backed the suspicions a few years ago, when those studying fractals noticed certain patterns in junk DNA. They found that non-coding sequences display what are termed long-range correlations. That is, the position of a nucleotide depends to some extent on the placement of other nucleotides.


In 1975 V. Adamenko in Russia performed the following experiment. After a part of a living leaf was cut and the remaining part was placed into a high frequency electromagnetic field, a visual image of the whole leave appeared. In other words, a phantom image of the cut part appeared which lived for 10-15 seconds and could be recorded on film. The experiment was reproduced by the Gariaev group and many other laboratories in the world.

http://www.emergentmind.org/new_pa6.jpg

http://www.emergentmind.org/new_pa7.jpg

I will need a whole new thread, to explain some specifics, and dive into heavy technical jargon, but not all people here have a deeper understanding of genetics here, so I will only stick to the most important things I wanted to share and inform on.

"There was always music and singing", he told me, "in the 'Garden of Eden', in order to setup, the genetic information of your kind. Word (or singing) is a sound, a sound is vibration, and vibration is energy. If we are the 'Gods' from your book you call the Bible, who do you think spoke the words(sang)?"- or in other words, setup our genetic structure.

This above is a small snippet of a conversation I had with Akiva, implying to the passage of the Bible, "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God", John 1:1.

Like any version of computers, we, as bio-computers, are subject to "hackers", and also get fixed by "programmers", either those who created the "program" or those familiar with it. The problem here is, even some of our own kind know play the "hacker" role. I will make a lengthier post regarding MK Ultra, various forms of Mind Control programming, subliminal messaging, and some details on "Mind-Hackers" (or mental hitmen), and something some may be familiar with as the "Mindwreaker Project". There is another one who started 50 years ago, "Dreamwalker project", a twin program, involving the dream realm and the subconscious state. Some of those things have been entertained in movies, although reality is a lot less fun, and quite more terrible than what you see in movies.

Having your DNA repaired also brings forth better genetic mechanisms for defense. For immunological purposes, who extend to the Mind field. Another reason why we are poisoned through the air, water, and the food we consume. GM food/Codex Alimentarius, chemtrails, the oilspill scenarios, all, are covert or overt events/operations used to poison the environment and us in order for suppression and further degradation of the human genetic structure. If we all had this detail knowledge about genetics, we would all know how to fix ourselves very fast despite the radical efforts they have taken to slowly destroy us. Also some of the technology we sue. TV changes brainwave frequency (to worse), satellites bathing us in various radio frequencies that affect our moods, cellphones who cause cancer etc.

I did mention how electo-magnetics can have some profound effects on genetics. Its very important that the baby is exposed to the electro-magnetic frequencies of the person who takes care of it, be it its parents, or one parent, relatives, or legal guardians. In order to develop as a fully grown and established individual. This process will influence his development with character and personality as they grow, and be more alike its parents or those who took care of it. The head should be close to the heart chakra, or the heart organ, who emits electro-magnetic properties, who transmit information stored in that energy to the head of the baby, who through its mind chakra will process that information and transmit it through its body and "save it" as a bio-computer, in the form of genetic codes.

Other alien civilizations may have a different genetic make up in comparison to us, they may even have something totally different other than DNA, but that like us, that constitutes to them, a genetic code (or something analogous to DNA). So the "rules" are more or less, the same out there.

In context of answering questions, there were a couple of members who posted questions having to do with this topic, but with additional topics:


Thank u for opening up & sharing . ... I enjoy reading this thread ..... what is your view on DNA? Is it limited to the physical body? Is there any connection to one's higher self?

The DNA does have a connection to the 'higher self', because all these segments are still parts of one being. In a sense, you would "survive" without a physical body, I mean, further exist, but the 'Higher Self', as a part of the soul/spirit, no. Its our basis to who we are, intelligently put together piles of energetic particles, who grouping in further complexity gain density and weight, and become us.

The fact that we know, and are aware, of whats going to happen, 1 second before it happens (right now), means that we all have a connection with our "Higher Self", who to our perception would seem like its slightly "into the future". In the past, we were able to "sense" the future events coming to realization, a lot more sooner than that.

I have been told that through procreation, the soul that attaches to the body also takes in some of the energy used in the sexual act, from both of the parents, and incorporate it into its own spirit/soul. Have in mind everytime you have sex, that there are souls waiting, for you to make a "mistake", and attach and experience life like you are. It may sound bizarre, and even might make some people feel weird while having sex, but its something they have told me to share with you, as a lot of women end up pregnant, when they cannot take care of the baby, and give it to others to take care of it, or go for abortion. Which they frown upon, because its destroying "contracts" and intentions of other spirits who wish to experience physicality.

They say that the soul "orbits" the "energy fragment" (I later found out they meant the joined spermatozoid and ovum) left behind by the mother and father, for about ~3 weeks / ~21 days before it attaches fully to it. By this time they justify, and approve, abortions, since the soul is not yet attached to the physical body. After that, they do get upset. They got angry a few times when they observed how a couple of young girls in the Middle East tried to abort the baby they carried, using very painful procedures, and when the baby already started to enter some of the later stages of the embryo form.


Hello OnyxKnight,

I have enjoyed reading about your experience very much.

Have the other races discussed with you the micro aspects of the universe such as the mechanics of atoms, DNA, genes etc?

Mobius

"Everything is crucial part of the Multiverse, you included. If you had the ultimate microscopic technology, or the ultimate telescope (macroscopic) technology, whether you zoomed in on yourself, or far away in the distant point in space, you would see after zooming through the preons, the bosons, the 'vibratons' and "strings", you reach a large sub-quantum area of your physio-energetic being, that if you keep going further down in observation, you would notice the outlines of another sea of "dots", which are actually other universes, in which beings of some kind live. Same result if you zoom out there in space, having the most advanced telescope, you would see the edges of our universe, and notice that there are other ones, larger and smaller, situated nearby, probably part of the quantum make up of another being. The Multiverse works in fractals. You are the macroscopic representation of, to your own perception, smaller, mini-universes, and at the same time, a microscopic fractal representation of this entire universe, and other universes out there. An even more microscopic fractal representation if you consider that those universes are sub-quantum representations of something bigger, and most likely, in some way or form, alive, just like you." ~ Hulma, my contact from Nembus.

- How's that for spiritual interconnection? :D

To make people closely visualize what I had in mind, this would be a very nice way to do so:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fiU77PamYls

Of course, the visualization, if real, would need a several more phases of zooming out, before reaching a "living being", but you get the idea (I hope) :).

Everything is a microcosm, and a macrocosm at the same time. The smallest particle, or point seems to be the outline of another universe and this who universe is also an elementary dot, constituting the smallest building blocks of something else. I was a proponent of the whole, interconnectedness thing (as its part of standard spiritual beliefs), but this information really took it to a whole other level.

The Multiverse thus, really is, infinite.

I'm late to this thread, but it looks like the video above has been taken down 'due to a copyright claim by Warner Bros. Entertainment.'.

Interesting. Anyone have another link to the video?

[Casey Claar]

Sorry for having to do this. Bump.