You want to be saved...!

[Deega]

Hi Avalonians, Guests,

You want to be saved...!

Hmm!, from what, from death, and if ever, won’t you come at some point that it will be frustrating to be part of the young getting at your back..!

To have access to a paradise as suggested in many religions..., and what would that be..., access to beautiful ladies/guys, access to endless love, access to endless goods, access to the wonderful..., sound to good to be true! Isn’t these hopes egoistic..?, are they spiritually driven..?, may it help our soul transition..?

I’m reading Anton Parks Chronicles and lately his “Testament de la vierge”, he’s saying, don’t expect to be saved, no body will come save you, you have all you need to save yourself.

And if you’re waiting for the ET to come and get you, have a read at Parks works, you will find that they are not the type that will saved you, they will still want to enslaved you as they have did many hundred of thousand of years ago.

So, we need to collect ourself, start be the greatness that one can be and put your faith in yourself and others.

All my blessings.

Deega

[Maria Stade]

Yes this is so true !

No one is going to save us, and if we cant change, then we will be history !

Time to wake up !

Say Hi to your self :nod: The time is always NOW

All Love

[bashi]

I want to be saved!

From the ORION CONSPIRACY ! :laugh:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?15872-An-IMPORTANT-and-SPECIAL-MESSAGE-To-SAVE-The-WORLD-by-JAMES-HORAK-Torzbc-OmetaOne

[Anchor]

Hi Avalonians, Guests,

You want to be saved...!

Hmm!, from what, from death, and if ever, won’t you come at some point that it will be frustrating to be part of the young getting at your back..!

To have access to a paradise as suggested in many religions..., and what would that be..., access to beautiful ladies/guys, access to endless love, access to endless goods, access to the wonderful..., sound to good to be true! Isn’t these hopes egoistic..?, are they spiritually driven..?, may it help our soul transition..?

I’m reading Anton Parks Chronicles and lately his “Testament de la vierge”, he’s saying, don’t expect to be saved, no body will come save you, you have all you need to save yourself.

And if you’re waiting for the ET to come and get you, have a read at Parks works, you will find that they are not the type that will saved you, they will still want to enslaved you as they have did many hundred of thousand of years ago.

So, we need to collect ourself, start be the greatness that one can be and put your faith in yourself and others.

All my blessings.

Deega

That was an interesting post.

I don't want to be saved.

Occasionally I ask for some help with dealing with the stream of catalyst this illusion offers me, but I never asked to be saved.

I want to go down learning!

If that means going out in a fiery blaze of holly-woodesque drama so be it, or it could just be passing due to old age whilst tending peacefully to my olive groves, with my wife, nature and perhaps some good friends for company.... but I am happy for everything to take its natural course - and I thank the creator for it.

John..

[jorr lundstrom]

Naaaaaaaaaaaa. I dont want to be saved.

If anyone get the idea of saving me, please dont.

[Rocky_Shorz]

Anchor ol buddy, that is one of the best taglines I've seen...


Every majestic oak tree was once a nut who stood his ground...

I'll be watching the Avocados growing...

[Belle]

Saved? From what? Death? Only our bodies die...we continue. Saved from the bad nasties of the world? Eliminate fear and live your life fully.

Doesn't it say somewhere in the bible that "Ye are gods"? If true, why would we need saving? Just look within...get to know yourself, your own truth...find your freedom there.

[Deega]

I want to be saved!

From the ORION CONSPIRACY ! :laugh:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?15872-An-IMPORTANT-and-SPECIAL-MESSAGE-To-SAVE-The-WORLD-by-JAMES-HORAK-Torzbc-OmetaOne

Thanks Bashi,

You want to be saved from the ORION CONSPIRACY! You're expecting that the ET will retake planet Earth again!, yes!, it could be probable if there is still suffisant resources left on Earth that they are in need of. Since they left the Earth a few thousand years (Parks Books) before Christ, I don't forsee any coming back.

From Anton Parks, the ET came to Earth to get plenty of resources for their race, and being on Earth, they decided after a while that they could genetically engineered the ADAMUS, and they did for their selfished purposes.

If I may Bashi, don't give your power to nobody, it like giving your soul to someone, stand tall, stand proud, stand love so that you will be able to face whatever come to you, you decide..!

All my blessings.

Deega

[truthseekerdan]

Time has come to be 'saved from this illusion' we created collectively...

Join in the Unity Consciousness! For more info click my signature.

Blessings to all,

Dan ♥

[Deega]

Hi Avalonians, Guests,

You want to be saved...!

Hmm!, from what, from death, and if ever, won’t you come at some point that it will be frustrating to be part of the young getting at your back..!

To have access to a paradise as suggested in many religions..., and what would that be..., access to beautiful ladies/guys, access to endless love, access to endless goods, access to the wonderful..., sound to good to be true! Isn’t these hopes egoistic..?, are they spiritually driven..?, may it help our soul transition..?

I’m reading Anton Parks Chronicles and lately his “Testament de la vierge”, he’s saying, don’t expect to be saved, no body will come save you, you have all you need to save yourself.

And if you’re waiting for the ET to come and get you, have a read at Parks works, you will find that they are not the type that will saved you, they will still want to enslaved you as they have did many hundred of thousand of years ago.

So, we need to collect ourself, start be the greatness that one can be and put your faith in yourself and others.

All my blessings.

Deega

That was an interesting post.

I don't want to be saved.

Occasionally I ask for some help with dealing with the stream of catalyst this illusion offers me, but I never asked to be saved.

I want to go down learning!

If that means going out in a fiery blaze of holly-woodesque drama so be it, or it could just be passing due to old age whilst tending peacefully to my olive groves, with my wife, nature and perhaps some good friends for company.... but I am happy for everything to take its natural course - and I thank the creator for it.

John..

Thanks John,

I loved your reply, you stick in to the love of life, you will never loose.

Yes!, aren't we all at some point or another asking help, and, it comes in time not always as we wish, but it comes.

And, how I loved your intent to keep at learning, as we know, learning if loving yourself, great of you John.

Also, your views of how it might end, can't be more sublime than that.

All my blessings.

Deega

[Deega]

Time has come to be 'saved from this illusion' we created collectively...

Join in the Unity Consciousness! For more info click my signature.

Blessings to all,

Dan ♥

Thanks Truthseekerdan,

Yes, Unity Consciousness is probably on great way to get our acts together, but could you tell how we may get people to aligned their thinking and acting along that honorable way...?

All my blessings.

Deega

[Krullenjongen]

Doesn't it say somewhere in the bible that "Ye are gods"? If true, why would we need saving? Just look within...get to know yourself, your own truth...find your freedom there.

Well not really. The story goes like this:
"Now the serpent was more shrewd than any of the wild animals that the LORD God had made. He said to the woman, “Is it really true that God said, ‘You must not eat from any tree of the orchard? The woman said to the serpent, “We may eat of the fruit from the trees of the orchard; but concerning the fruit of the tree that is in the middle of the orchard God said, ‘You must not eat from it, and you must not touch it, or else you will die.’ ”The serpent said to the woman, “Surely you will not die, for God knows that when you eat from it your eyes will open and you will be like divine beings who know good and evil." (genesis 3:1-5)

The part in bold is what christians call the first big lie from the devil that seduced Eve to eat from the tree that God forbade them to eat from. The lie that they would be like devine beings was to strong and this was the first time "man" disobeyed the word of God. (and after a while they did indeed die a fysical death even tho they were made to live eternal)
I believe this lie is being told over and over again through time and i still read it today.
You can become like God, or you are a god, god is in you so you also are a devine being.
I believe that the dark forces use this to say that you can do everything yourself and don't need anyone, especially not God and you don't need saving.

Well i for one will say i need saving, i can't do everything myself.

[Deega]

Doesn't it say somewhere in the bible that "Ye are gods"? If true, why would we need saving? Just look within...get to know yourself, your own truth...find your freedom there.

Well not really. The story goes like this:
"Now the serpent was more shrewd than any of the wild animals that the LORD God had made. He said to the woman, “Is it really true that God said, ‘You must not eat from any tree of the orchard? The woman said to the serpent, “We may eat of the fruit from the trees of the orchard; but concerning the fruit of the tree that is in the middle of the orchard God said, ‘You must not eat from it, and you must not touch it, or else you will die.’ ”The serpent said to the woman, “Surely you will not die, for God knows that when you eat from it your eyes will open and you will be like divine beings who know good and evil." (genesis 3:1-5)

The part in bold is what christians call the first big lie from the devil that seduced Eve to eat from the tree that God forbade them to eat from. The lie that they would be like devine beings was to strong and this was the first time "man" disobeyed the word of God. (and after a while they did indeed die a fysical death even tho they were made to live eternal)
I believe this lie is being told over and over again through time and i still read it today.
You can become like God, or you are a god, god is in you so you also are a devine being.
I believe that the dark forces use this to say that you can do everything yourself and don't need anyone, especially not God and you don't need saving.

Well i for one will say i need saving, i can't do everything myself.

Thanks Krullenjongen,

May I ask, what are the characteristics that qualify your spirit asking to be saved, and may you share, saved from..., what...?

All my blessings.

Deega

[conk]

Gang of Four (the band, not the Chinese): Save me from the people who would save me from myself.

[mondaze]

i think now is the present... do it now for yourself... being saved is future tense.... and i'm sick of waiting for the future tense. manifest now, enjoy all you can.... sky sun stars trees ocean animals... all are sensory delights and available here and now. re-arrange the way you perceive the world and you dont need saving!

[Deega]

i think now is the present... do it now for yourself... being saved is future tense.... and i'm sick of waiting for the future tense. manifest now, enjoy all you can.... sky sun stars trees ocean animals... all are sensory delights and available here and now. re-arrange the way you perceive the world and you dont need saving!

Hé Mondaze, thanks, Yes!, you can't miss with this one, the best of follow through with the magnificity of life.

All my blessings.

Deega

[Belle]

Doesn't it say somewhere in the bible that "Ye are gods"? If true, why would we need saving? Just look within...get to know yourself, your own truth...find your freedom there.

Well not really. The story goes like this:
"Now the serpent was more shrewd than any of the wild animals that the LORD God had made. He said to the woman, “Is it really true that God said, ‘You must not eat from any tree of the orchard? The woman said to the serpent, “We may eat of the fruit from the trees of the orchard; but concerning the fruit of the tree that is in the middle of the orchard God said, ‘You must not eat from it, and you must not touch it, or else you will die.’ ”The serpent said to the woman, “Surely you will not die, for God knows that when you eat from it your eyes will open and you will be like divine beings who know good and evil." (genesis 3:1-5)

The part in bold is what christians call the first big lie from the devil that seduced Eve to eat from the tree that God forbade them to eat from. The lie that they would be like devine beings was to strong and this was the first time "man" disobeyed the word of God. (and after a while they did indeed die a fysical death even tho they were made to live eternal)
I believe this lie is being told over and over again through time and i still read it today.
You can become like God, or you are a god, god is in you so you also are a devine being.
I believe that the dark forces use this to say that you can do everything yourself and don't need anyone, especially not God and you don't need saving.

Well i for one will say i need saving, i can't do everything myself.

You can also find it in psalm 82:6-7, and John 10:30-33, and in John 10:34 Jesus quotes Psalm 82:6 saying, "Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are Gods?...."

I understand where you are coming from. I, too, came from a Christian tradition...and am still an organist/pianist in the Catholic Church. Tho' Catholics are not taught chapter and verse as some other traditions are, every three years through the readings at each mass the whole of the bible is spoken. Trust me, I've done this for a long time. I may have to look up chapter and verse, but I remember what is in there. Some of the readings make me sick to my stomach...the God of the bible has a lot of human traits: jealousy, anger, vengeance, etc. and treats his "people" as slaves. Jesus said, "You are no longer slaves...." instead of slaves, we became sheep needing a shepherd.

You are where you need to be right now, and that is as it should be. In time, perhaps, you will be led to other writings, or other people and something will resonate that will lead you to question what you've been taught. I had to overcome a great deal of fear before I could move beyond what I was raised to believe. And perhaps, you will always believe as you do today, and that's okay too. We all have our own path and you must follow yours as I must follow mine.

In love and blessings

[Krullenjongen]

Doesn't it say somewhere in the bible that "Ye are gods"? If true, why would we need saving? Just look within...get to know yourself, your own truth...find your freedom there.

Well not really. The story goes like this:
"Now the serpent was more shrewd than any of the wild animals that the LORD God had made. He said to the woman, “Is it really true that God said, ‘You must not eat from any tree of the orchard? The woman said to the serpent, “We may eat of the fruit from the trees of the orchard; but concerning the fruit of the tree that is in the middle of the orchard God said, ‘You must not eat from it, and you must not touch it, or else you will die.’ ”The serpent said to the woman, “Surely you will not die, for God knows that when you eat from it your eyes will open and you will be like divine beings who know good and evil." (genesis 3:1-5)

The part in bold is what christians call the first big lie from the devil that seduced Eve to eat from the tree that God forbade them to eat from. The lie that they would be like devine beings was to strong and this was the first time "man" disobeyed the word of God. (and after a while they did indeed die a fysical death even tho they were made to live eternal)
I believe this lie is being told over and over again through time and i still read it today.
You can become like God, or you are a god, god is in you so you also are a devine being.
I believe that the dark forces use this to say that you can do everything yourself and don't need anyone, especially not God and you don't need saving.

Well i for one will say i need saving, i can't do everything myself.

You can also find it in psalm 82:6-7, and John 10:30-33, and in John 10:34 Jesus quotes Psalm 82:6 saying, "Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are Gods?...."

I understand where you are coming from. I, too, came from a Christian tradition...and am still an organist/pianist in the Catholic Church. Tho' Catholics are not taught chapter and verse as some other traditions are, every three years through the readings at each mass the whole of the bible is spoken. Trust me, I've done this for a long time. I may have to look up chapter and verse, but I remember what is in there. Some of the readings make me sick to my stomach...the God of the bible has a lot of human traits: jealousy, anger, vengeance, etc. and treats his "people" as slaves. Jesus said, "You are no longer slaves...." instead of slaves, we became sheep needing a shepherd.

You are where you need to be right now, and that is as it should be. In time, perhaps, you will be led to other writings, or other people and something will resonate that will lead you to question what you've been taught. I had to overcome a great deal of fear before I could move beyond what I was raised to believe. And perhaps, you will always believe as you do today, and that's okay too. We all have our own path and you must follow yours as I must follow mine.

In love and blessings

Thanks for your insight belle.
I do not agree with you but that only adds to a good discussion :)
In my opinion (and other biblical scolars) Ps 82:6-7 speaks about earthly gods abased and brought down. The dignity of their character is acknowledged (v. 6): I have said, You are gods. They have been honoured with the name and title of gods. But they are not god in the way God (Yahweh) is because it goes on to say that "and all of you are children of the most High (of God). But ye shall die like men..."

I do come from a Christian background and i have questioned my faith very much but after a lot of reading of other religions i came to the conclusion that the christian faith fits best.
I did move from my original catholic church to a pentacostal church because they have a more personal faith.
It's kind of hard to explain but since i switched i have grown very much spiritually.

i do meet a lot of people that come from a christian background and what struck me the most is how little people inderstand of the real teachings of Christ.
Most of them left the faith before they were properly taught.
Now a lot of the time they scoff at me and ask me questions or make statements from which i can see that they don't know what they are talking about. things like "why does God condem people to hell?" or "the bible say an eye for an eye so i can do the same thing to him" or "i cannot love a God who hates gays".
All typical questions/statements that demonstrate their lack of knowledge about the christian faith and God.

But i believe and i think you will agree that we are all in a certain phase in our lives and that is part of the growing cycle. You cannot rush anyone to an understanding.
so i will conclude with a few of your words with my twist.
In time, perhaps, you will be led to deeper, better understanding of God and Jesus. ;)

I bless you in the name of Jesus

[Belle]

Thank you for your blessing, Krullenjongen.

I, too, went to the pentacostal church and was baptised there....it gave me a personal faith. Then I went on to study all the major religions because I felt each of them had a part of the truth, but not one held the whole truth in my view. After I went through all the christian religions, I went on through judaisim, and the muslim faith, eastern religions and on to the Cathars and the Gnostics and as many ancient writings as I could find.

I started in my early 20's and am now 59, so it has been a lifelong journey. I no longer depend on someone else's understanding of what the different writings mean...imo they were written by men for men and can be understood or misunderstood in many ways. We could discuss the meaning of a passage in scripture for years on end and each one of us would walk away believing what resonates with us individually. I did not find what I was looking for in a religion. We all have the Divine Light within. The answers are there, not outside of ourselves interpreted by other people. When I die and stand before the Light, can I justify my answers, my life, my beliefs by saying "But so and so told me this was true, and I lived my life in that box religion told me was the right way to live." I would be surprised if God didn't respond that He gave me many gifts that resided outside of that box and why didn't I follow where He led, using those gifts along the way.

But all this is my journey. He calls us all in different ways to follow the path He has laid before us. This is my path, and I am responsible for my own journey through life with the Light. I choose not to give that responsibility to anyone else.

The Divine Light within me acknowledges and honors the Divine Light within you in Love.

[Eric J (Viking)]

Hi Deega ...hope you're well...

I don't want to be saved.

BUT...what I do want is a fair game/fight with the PTB ... at the moment they are using all sorts of tricks to keep the masses enslaved within the system. If they think this is a fair fight then they should be ashamed of themselves...only a coward would adopt the tactics they have adopted over the years and keep us in control...

COWARDS!!

This is the one thing I agree with 'Charles' ....A FAIR FIGHT!!! Bring it on ... the way I see it they are using unfair tactics to gain the upper hand...

LET ME TELL YOU MR PTB (Let me rephrase that... PTW) ...

WE ARE MORE POWERFUL THAN YOU CAN EVER IMAGINE...our collected minds will win this over...we will be part of the Galactic Community with or without your pathetic attempts to keep us shrouded in what is rightfully ours.

WE WILL WIN ... Now bugger off...

viking

[Deega]

Hi Deega ...hope you're well...

I don't want to be saved.

BUT...what I do want is a fair game/fight with the PTB ... at the moment they are using all sorts of tricks to keep the masses enslaved within the system. If they think this is a fair fight then they should be ashamed of themselves...only a coward would adopt the tactics they have adopted over the years and keep us in control...

COWARDS!!

This is the one thing I agree with 'Charles' ....A FAIR FIGHT!!! Bring it on ... the way I see it they are using unfair tactics to gain the upper hand...

LET ME TELL YOU MR PTB (Let me rephrase that... PTW) ...

WE ARE MORE POWERFUL THAN YOU CAN EVER IMAGINE...our collected minds will win this over...we will be part of the Galactic Community with or without your pathetic attempts to keep us shrouded in what is rightfully ours.

WE WILL WIN ... Now bugger off...

viking

Thanks Viking to your comments and thanks to ask on my "wellness".

I should add that I had to be operated on two weeks ago now and my body and spirit is moving along thanks to the ENERGIES (God included) surrending us/me, I asked that they be in with me during this ordeal, and I feel that it was, so I'm so thankful and aware of this new chance to life given to me.

And Yes!, the PTB are so well entrenched in their ways of enslaving us that it might be difficult to make a difference. Maybe, the lately example given by the Tunisian, Egyptian, and other to come may set in our world in days, months, years to come, but are we ready to suffer...?, I'm not sure! A price has to be paid, are we ready to paid what it is worth!

Like you Viking, I don't have the answer and like you, I feel that our soul, our spirit, our humanity deserve that we decide what should be best for all of us, not the PTB, but how should we go about it?

All my blessings.

Deega

[TWINNICK]

Thank you for your blessing, Krullenjongen.

I, too, went to the pentacostal church and was baptised there....it gave me a personal faith. Then I went on to study all the major religions because I felt each of them had a part of the truth, but not one held the whole truth in my view. After I went through all the christian religions, I went on through judaisim, and the muslim faith, eastern religions and on to the Cathars and the Gnostics and as many ancient writings as I could find.

I started in my early 20's and am now 59, so it has been a lifelong journey. I no longer depend on someone else's understanding of what the different writings mean...imo they were written by men for men and can be understood or misunderstood in many ways. We could discuss the meaning of a passage in scripture for years on end and each one of us would walk away believing what resonates with us individually. I did not find what I was looking for in a religion. We all have the Divine Light within. The answers are there, not outside of ourselves interpreted by other people. When I die and stand before the Light, can I justify my answers, my life, my beliefs by saying "But so and so told me this was true, and I lived my life in that box religion told me was the right way to live." I would be surprised if God didn't respond that He gave me many gifts that resided outside of that box and why didn't I follow where He led, using those gifts along the way.

But all this is my journey. He calls us all in different ways to follow the path He has laid before us. This is my path, and I am responsible for my own journey through life with the Light. I choose not to give that responsibility to anyone else.

The Divine Light within me acknowledges and honors the Divine Light within you in Love.

G;day, very well said Belle.

..Nick..