Smoke, Shadows and Something there

[Whitehaze]

Just out of the corner of the eye, you see something. It looks smokey or shodow like. Sometimes it feels like a presence, or a touch or a nudge. A breeze from nowhere. What is it or what are they? Has anyone ever seen or experienced these things?

[Jake]

Yes, Yes.. Mostly in the astral. or during OBE. Shadowy, not necesarilly evil. Can't look directly at 'them' but 'they' are letting you know that 'they' are there. Are you seeing them from the physical. I mean, are you awake when you experience them. i have a couple of ideas. There is a group of non-physical beings who are, well, 'teachers/trainers' of sorts. (My experience of course) they are non-physical, which means that you are open to non-physical communication, ie... psychic in awesome ways. I have been aware of them (if it the same group) for a long time. Only in the astral though. They are energy workers, and are here to teach/heal us about our energy bodies.

Another possibility is that they are physical beings somewhere and they are 'projecting' into your physical reality. Perhaps ET group, benevolent. either way, they are non-physical, and the simple fact that you are aware of them at all is an awesome sign.

Do you have any dreaming going on that is related to energy body sensations and teachers???

[Gajanana]

All my life... one evening i felt them very strongly. I was in a strange hotel and trying to relax after a hard day of teaching, so I actually shouted loudly for them to leave. They didnt. They then became visible and although they said nothing I got the message loud and clear; it was time to do something active about my own spiritual pathway. Which I did and have done since that evening. Never seen anything even remotely like it since, but can feel when they are close at hand.
Nothing earth shattering, but a little bit of my story....
:cool:

[conk]

Stuart Wilde says that entities express themselves at 90 degree angles to our line of sight. We cannot look directly at them, but must use the periphery of our sight to detect them. Very interesting.

[OmeyocaN777]

I believe this have something to do with "Theta"and "Delta" state of mind(cat nap).
When our brain "works" in these frequencies we are connect with universal mind and our inner powers are activated.
Then we can "see" and "feel" the 4D realm and beyond.....(spirits or shadows)
About the shadows, i'm not sure what they can be, maybe are the Archons(reps?) like Gnostics used to say(prison planet)

“Human beings are on a journey of awareness, which has momentarily been interrupted by extraneous forces.”
Carlos Castaneda

"Gnostic Parallels in the Writings of Carlos Castaneda"
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/cienciareal/esp_donjuan13.htm

[Mystique]

Does anyone see little flashes of sparkling light in your periphery? I usually see them about 3-4 feet away, but last night one was about 1 1/2 feet to my left.

[Dennis Jonathan]

Just out of the corner of the eye, you see something. It looks smokey or shodow like. Sometimes it feels like a presence, or a touch or a nudge. A breeze from nowhere. What is it or what are they? Has anyone ever seen or experienced these things?

Everytime I'm alone for as long as I can remember.

Sometimes at night, in the thin space between sleep and wake, I physically feel a touch, or pressure.

When I was younger, I remember telling my parents about the invisible arms that would hold me down at night and in the morning.

I used to feel fear and panic, but I've learned how to amplify my "internal fire" to force it back.

Im interested in learning more about what this is, but Im no longer intimidated.

[Dennis Jonathan]

Does anyone see little flashes of sparkling light in your periphery? I usually see them about 3-4 feet away, but last night one was about 1 1/2 feet to my left.

Ive been experiencing this as well. Its almost like a pin prick or rain drop of light in my field of view.

Threads like these make me so thankful for Avalon.

Thanks for starting this thread.

[Setras]

Could it be cosmic ray particles interacting with the fluid in the eye.... normally a particle of this velocity would not get through the atmospheric/magnetic envelope. however things arn't normal and perhaps you are seeing what the astronauts descibed as like shooting stars in your vision????

[Lord Sidious]

I haven't seen that, but I have had ''something'' knocking on my wardrobe for years.
And no, it isn't termites, Avalonuggets.

[meeradas]

Normal "waking" state.
Both the shadowy and the spark type. Sparks way more often (actually, daily at the moment).

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I haven't seen that, but I have had ''something'' knocking on my wardrobe for years.
And how'd you get rid of it? We had sth similar in '89 (came with an old 2nd hand bookshelf)...

[Lord Sidious]

Normal "waking" state.
Both the shadowy and the spark type. Sparks way more often (actually, daily at the moment).

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I haven't seen that, but I have had ''something'' knocking on my wardrobe for years.
And how'd you get rid of it? We had sth similar in '89 (came with an old 2nd hand bookshelf)...

I didn't, it still does that every so often.
I shifted before and it slowed down.

[Jake]

As stated before by OmeyocaN777, These phenomenon have are usually reserved for the Delta/Theta state. Deep trance meditation or spontaneous/ either way,,, These things are 'historically' happening while we sleep. I say 'historically' because Things seem to be changing/speeding up. The phenomenon that is supposed to be occuring during Theta, are occureing dureing Alpha (Waking state). Either that, or we are (collectively) Bringing our Theta state phenomenon into our waking realities. It is going to happen more and more as we move toward our goal of 'greater' consciousness. I FRIGGIN LOVE IT. The fact that people are becomeing more and more awake and aware is very exciting.

[42]

Does anyone see little flashes of sparkling light in your periphery? I usually see them about 3-4 feet away, but last night one was about 1 1/2 feet to my left.

I see them all the time, as well as orbs... here is a link to my comments on a previous thread discussion on this subject..

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?8739-Anybody-got-an-explanation-for-these-Orbs&p=76651&viewfull=1#post76651

[OmeyocaN777]

Does anyone see little flashes of sparkling light in your periphery? I usually see them about 3-4 feet away, but last night one was about 1 1/2 feet to my left.

Is there a connection with little flashes and Neutrinos from the Sun(DNA upgrade)?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcRCQDinLhA&feature=channel_video_title

[Fred Steeves]

Yes I've seen brief glimpses of shadowy forms a couple of times, but usually it's those quick little blinks of light described here. The best explanation I've been able to come up with so far is that they may be entities that are unseeable to the miniscule fraction of the light spectrum we are able to interpret. Could also be beings from a dimension higher then ours but close enough for a little bleed through on occasion.

Speaking of the sleep consciousness, this now makes me wonder if these are the way the awake consciousness interprets interactions which are very obvious during sleep.


Cheers,
Fred S.

[mab777]

Does anyone see little flashes of sparkling light in your periphery? I usually see them about 3-4 feet away, but last night one was about 1 1/2 feet to my left.

I feel the same sensation. Especially when I'm relaxed and at night.

[42]

Stuart Wilde says that entities express themselves at 90 degree angles to our line of sight. We cannot look directly at them, but must use the periphery of our sight to detect them. Very interesting.

I did not know this... for years i have been trying to look at them head on with no luck... sneaky little guys...

[Caren]

Not long after a beloved uncle passed away I 'felt' his presence around me a number of times.
One particular day as I walked from my kitchen toward the living room something shadow like caught the corner of my eye. I turned toward it and saw a man whom I recognized instantly to be my uncle.
As soon as it registered in my brain who it was.. the smokey figure vanished.
I felt no fear but it did startle me.

[Crake]

Just out of the corner of the eye, you see something. It looks smokey or shodow like. Sometimes it feels like a presence, or a touch or a nudge. A breeze from nowhere. What is it or what are they? Has anyone ever seen or experienced these things?

Since I was a child I've had my share of smoky shadows saunter on through my life. As I've matured spiritually, I have become better equipped to see and understand these beings. Some have been dead relatives, some have been angels, and some have been those dark demonic types. The best thing I would recommend is simply asking them directly. Say: "Who are you and what do you want?" Then listen and feel for what happens next. If and when you're ready, you will get your answer.

Cheers,
Crake

[Ella]

Wow, I have always seen 'things' from the corners of my eyes..... flashes of light, or something move quickly. And I have always just put it down to some kind of neurological phenomena or something floating in my eye. I learn something new all the time on this forum. With this and reading that the ringing sounds that I have had in my ears since I can remember, can also be something that I hadn't even considered before (which I have also assumed was just tinitus)... it's starting to make me think twice about all sorts of things. I've always been so quick to explain things away. Interesting.

[ghostrider]

that experience in 1987 was the same for me it started me on a journey to know what was THAT. never believed in ufo/et before. Now I know they walk all around us everyday. Seems for me they only show what I can handle at that level, and slowly show you more as you grow. thanks for sharing.

[pickle]

Just out of the corner of the eye, you see something. It looks smokey or shodow like. Sometimes it feels like a presence, or a touch or a nudge. A breeze from nowhere. What is it or what are they? Has anyone ever seen or experienced these things?
Yes, used to happen often and very clearly as a child and early teens, and I know the same has happend to my son (and still is) - had to explain why it's a good thing, not to be feared.

It started again for me in my late 40's, then again recently. It's why I have the lyrics in my sig (from Comfortably Numb - Pink Floyd), although for some reason I can't say or sing the lyrics out loud without getting a lump in my throat....... it means something special. Sheesh. I'm turning into an old softie :o

[SKAWF]

i get stuff like that too.

there was a blue/grey orb of light that was there for a fraction of a second. that happened three times.
and also i resonate with things just on the periphery of vision.

i reckon, that we are surrounded by beings and stuff.
there was something i used to do if i thought there was something in the room, or around me,

firstly, i never thought about what i felt (at the time).
i think thoughts and intentions can be read.
so what i'd do is, without thinking about it, i would position myself near a mirror,
but i wouldnt deliberately look at it, i would focus on something else,
and then let my attention wander over to the reflection in the mirror.
my experience is that we are more difficult to read when we switch between ordinary view,
and reversed reflections.
eg, imagine you're standing in the center of a square room, and that there is a mirror in front of you.....
but you're looking to the left corner of the room. you slowly turn your head, towards the right side of the room.....
(this i believe can be read by beings as an intention. like they can see what we see)
as your gaze passes over the mirror, even though you're looking forwards,
the reflection shows a reversed version of what is behind you.
it creates a little unexpected moment where a reaction is required.
just enough sometimes to catch an observer off guard.
i saw one once.
it was about 5ft tall, aqua/blue skin, blue grey clothing, curly hair, legs and arms were long and thin,
slightly disproportionate to the torso, and it was nervously sidestepping around the perimeter of the room,
like one would if they were sidestepping on a ledge around the outside of a tall building.
imagine how it must be, if you think you cant be seen by someone much bigger than you,
and that youre in a room with them, and you fear your cover is blown!!.

thats just two, of a shedload of experiences i've had. some were mindblowing,

it it said, that in the space we occupy are all of the other planes of existance,
but they dont affect each other because they are on different wavelengths.
to say that there are no other forms of life around us,
is almost the same as saying that this planet, is the only one in this universe that can support life.

steve

[Whitehaze]

As stated before by OmeyocaN777, These phenomenon have are usually reserved for the Delta/Theta state. Deep trance meditation or spontaneous/ either way,,, These things are 'historically' happening while we sleep. I say 'historically' because Things seem to be changing/speeding up. The phenomenon that is supposed to be occuring during Theta, are occureing dureing Alpha (Waking state). Either that, or we are (collectively) Bringing our Theta state phenomenon into our waking realities. It is going to happen more and more as we move toward our goal of 'greater' consciousness. I FRIGGIN LOVE IT. The fact that people are becomeing more and more awake and aware is very exciting.

Yes in meditation is when I see them the most. Also when I am in a very relaxed state, and as soon as I try to turn to see them head on, they are gone. I have seen them more frequently over the last 6 months or so, sometimes drifting by or across or through a wall. The best part of it is when you feel them, as in pressure or it feels like something exhaling a breath on you.

[firstlook]

I have been cautious to mention this but, For the past two years I have been having moments where I do some eye exercises relieving any tension I might have been building up. Here is the strange part. Lately Ive been focusing on nothing in particular in my vision or line of sight. For a minute or two I see everything shift to an peculiar state. The best way I can describe it is if you have a movie editor program of some kind, and put together the effects of "threshold" and "emboss". After doing this for a while now, I find i am able to catch shadowy movements in my side views more often.

Take this for what you will. I'm finding it interesting to play around with my vision, focusing on how much blood moves to this region, adjusting luminosity on command, etc..

Does anyone do this besides me?

:)

[Maria Stade]

Whitehaze
Yes in meditation is when I see them the most. Also when I am in a very relaxed state, and as soon as I try to turn to see them head on, they are gone. I have seen them more frequently over the last 6 months or so, sometimes drifting by or across or through a wall. The best part of it is when you feel them, as in pressure or it feels like something exhaling a breath on you.

How do you feel when you see/ sense them ?

[kinerkid]

The best advice I've been given on these shadows or apparitions is to not look directly at them. Keep them in the periphery of your vision. It takes practice to keep the eyes relaxed and observe that way. My knee-jerk reaction is to always turn & look directly too.

[Lifesong]

I think there's a real difference between guides and those fleeting energy shadows. There are remote viewers out there too & they're not time constrained. Just sayin'.

Trust your own knowing.

[TigaHawk]

With flashes of light - and moreso light AND equivilent dark spots start showing regularly to you....

go see an eye doctor ASAP.

My mother had this start happening to her about 2 years ago. The fluid in her eye was moving. There is a chance that when it moves, it will tear the tiny muscel things in there, and make you go blind. Stress effects how the fluid moves.


I'll send her an email and ask her if she remembers exactly what it was called so i can post a medical name and a link here for you.


Other than that - i occasionaly see light flashes as well.

Sometimes when i stare at the ground, i can see what appears to be the heat coming off of it. Or like thousands of ants moving. I think this to be an optical illusion tho - as ive been doing this at night at work, in an undercover area thats artificialy lighted. so i know it's not heat dissipating from the ground - hense the optical illusion guess.



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Theyr called Flashes & Floaters .... worst case is this could mean that the Retina is tearing away & should get it seen to immediately coz U loose your sight if it does tear away .... they can laser it back if they get it within a certain timeframe ...

[Maria Stade]

Lifesong
Trust your own knowing.

I agree !

Expand in energy, If the feeling is not good about them !

[Lifesong]

Excellent point, TigaHawk, thanks.

Blood pressure fluctuations and anemia can also cause floating light effects in vision.

[crosby]

Does anyone see little flashes of sparkling light in your periphery? I usually see them about 3-4 feet away, but last night one was about 1 1/2 feet to my left.

Mystique, i too have been seeing little sparkly flashes of light everyday now for about 3 months. at first they were just sporadic, now they are very active....everyday. i also have seen the "unseen" out of the corner of my eyes, and even my minds eye, for quite awhile now. i don't know what they are, but i'm thinking that they are not evil or bad in any way. kind of like guidance for me. thanks for this post Whitehaze, i'm glad that i'm not the only one.
warmest regards, corson

[KosmicKat]

Having seen the title of this thread, I hope I won't upset anyone by tossing in a few lines from the Earl of Essex, His Galliard (by "Weeping" John Dowland)


Can she excuse my wrongs with virtues cloak?
Shall I call her good when she proves unkind?
Are those fair fires that vanish into smoke?
Shall I praise the leaves when no fruit I find?

No! No! Where shadows do for features stand,
Thou may'st be abus'd if thy sight be dim!

[Whitehaze]

Whitehaze
Yes in meditation is when I see them the most. Also when I am in a very relaxed state, and as soon as I try to turn to see them head on, they are gone. I have seen them more frequently over the last 6 months or so, sometimes drifting by or across or through a wall. The best part of it is when you feel them, as in pressure or it feels like something exhaling a breath on you.

How do you feel when you see/ sense them ?

I am quite comfortable when I see them, I have no sense of fear or doom. I feel as though they are there for a reason, with good intentions.

[Maria Stade]

Whitehaze
Yes in meditation is when I see them the most. Also when I am in a very relaxed state, and as soon as I try to turn to see them head on, they are gone. I have seen them more frequently over the last 6 months or so, sometimes drifting by or across or through a wall. The best part of it is when you feel them, as in pressure or it feels like something exhaling a breath on you.

How do you feel when you see/ sense them ?

I am quite comfortable when I see them, I have no sense of fear or doom. I feel as though they are there for a reason, with good intentions.

Yes we have a inner sense that guides us and we need to trust that !

Trust your self !

There is no reason to create fear, Many do so with their mind to all that is not clearly known to them.

We have lots of helpers around now and they can as I see, be seen in different ways !

Namaste

[mojo]

Two years ago I would have said there was probably a biology based reason, but no longer. When I'm focused on watching something pertaining to the sighting event or filming I will see shadows move out of the corners of my eyes. When I look I never see anything. On many occasions while looking out across the creek I would see long silouettes moving on the water's surface. I always attributed it to the ripples. Then last week while filming an interesting small moving light in the forest I aimed my flashlight over to show the trees surrounding the light and it looks like I may have filmed an ET. The small humanoid shape can be seen moving from left to right and I never realized it was there there.

[crosby]

Mojo, you should upload what you captured on video. we would all love too see it.
regards, corson

[Jake]

The best advice I've been given on these shadows or apparitions is to not look directly at them. Keep them in the periphery of your vision. It takes practice to keep the eyes relaxed and observe that way. My knee-jerk reaction is to always turn & look directly too.

Exactly. Trying to stay relaxed is important. It is okay to get excited, but try and not move. I know that when I am doing my energy work routine, by the eime i am at the crown center (starting from bottom to top) I feel it all throughout my torso up to the crown, an excited 'adreniline' sort of rush. There is alot of phenomenon occur with they eyes at this point. It is hard to keep them relaxed. But this is where the 'seeing through closed eyes' comes into play, and yes, lots of astral beings. At least that is what I believe they are from personal experience.

[Buchanan561]

Just out of the corner of the eye, you see something. It looks smokey or shodow like. Sometimes it feels like a presence, or a touch or a nudge. A breeze from nowhere. What is it or what are they? Has anyone ever seen or experienced these things?


Well this thread is a little old and I am perhaps slow at getting around two forums but yes

The first time was in 1983 while I was up late one night reading a book. It was about 1:00 am. I lived alone but was never afraid. Being a nurse you have seen so much that you loose fear. All of a sudden while reading I felt a presence. Never before had I ever felt a presence around me and I knew for sure that I was not alone. I felt, and it was true, that there was more than one presence and a feeling of uncertainty overcame me. I slowly looked about the room, nothing there???, put my book down arose fromthe chair and walked into my bedroom and lay across the foot of my bed. I tried to ease the fear by making myself think of something plesant but it did not work. With my eyes closed I felt a movement on the other side of my bed and it felt like someone had sat down on the edge of my bed.

I thought about my situation and then all of a sudden the fear disappeared rapidly. I spoke out loud,
"there is someone here, I know there is someone here, who are you and what do you want of me?"

I heard a voice, I raised up and looked in front of me and saw a young man standing there with a great big smile on his face and he said to me/
"we have come to take you on a journey"
I knew that there was another being there as it had sat down behind me on the bed.
I said. "there is someone else here besides you. I want to see him too"

A voice came from behind me, male, saying
"I cannot come and let you see me because you would be afraid.,"
I said "no, I want to see you'
He repeated, no , You cannot see me because I look different than what you would expect and you would be afraid"
I said "no, I will not be afraid, I want to see you, come around so that I can see you."
I felt him lift his weight from the bed and he walked around so that I could see him. He was about 5.5 tall, stocky build, skin was rough about the face with a lot of what appeared to be scars from acne or some pox of some kind. He was dressed in Khacki pants and a shirt. But he did look different because he had two normal eyes in place where they should be but a third one in the middle of his forhead. He saw right away that I was not afraid and he said, we have come to take you on a journey. And they did. I have written about it in a book I put together about my mystical life. I do not know who they were or what they wanted of me for sure, but they picked my body up between them and we arose and went through my ceiling my roof, and through the trees outside of my house, I watched as we went higher and I could see all the houses in my area as we went higher and then headed south then after a point we then did a 90 degree turn and went down into the earth. There is more to the story but it was the beginning of this sort of thing that happened to me for 30 years. I met up with them many times but I never knew who they were but after years of study I know that their agenda was to wake me up to who I was and not the person I thought I was living this life as a person. I always knew that I was diffenent, and they all were trying to show me who I was and for me to wake up to the that reality. And I refused for some unknown reason. And they kept asking me.......Sue are you sure you are not ready to wake up in this life and remember who you are? And I would hear myself telling them....yes I am sure that I am not ready to wake up, and then the curtain would drop again and everything they told me would be pulled away from my memory and I would only remember the contact, but never remember just exactly what they wanted me to remember. Emma

[11alone]

maybe a spirit guide :)

[Buchanan561]

maybe a spirit guide :)

If you were referring to my post, yes there were many of them. Spirit Guides. There were two during this first visit but there was a female one that we encountered while in the earth in a large cavernous cave. She was dressed like an Egyptian princess and I was taken there I think for this ritual that she did to me. I know it was a ritual as many years ago I had read about such rituals in biblical texts. We did not stay there long until we went back up through the earth the same way we went down and then off to other places. So the first encounter started with three. Two males and we met a female. This went on for twenty/thirty years. Sometimes I would find myself sitting in front of a table with about 8 monks on the other side all talking to me at the same time. They seemed tireless in trying to get me to agree to 'wake up' and know who I was. I was to learn that when in other dimensions, such as I always was, the ego is not there and you do not ponder on things. Your higher self is the one in charge and making the decisions for you. No ego in other dimensions. Ego is just for 3D survival. For some reason my higher self required that I stay as everyone else with no past memories. Emma

a group of men all dressed in long brown robes. The only way to describe them was 'monks' and they would all be standing on the other side of the table, leaning over it towards me trying to persuede me to 'wake' up. Thank for for responding to my post. ems