Are we there yet?

[Peace of Mind]

Hi guys...

Whats happening here? Where are we going, where are we at now?

I hardly have time to visit this site like I want to, but it seems like the forum is breaking up and I’m feeling like I wasted a great deal of time here, I don’t have enough digits on my hands and feet to tell you how many times I’ve heard the term “be patient”. Now that term is starting to sound suspect…along with the other terms I noticed to get thrown around lately " learn to discern", “no one is keeping you here”, “you can leave”,…etc. In my experiences these set of words always come out when the heat is on, or when an agenda is about to be exposed. With that said…I’m still holding out hope because there are very beautiful people here, I don’t want to see any of them lead a stray or into a trap…worse of all kept from doing their parts in life. I think this is what I’ve been witnessing…. Hopefully we are not wasting our time, nor kept in the dark purposely just to prevent people from being pro-active. I was banned from a New Ager website because I asked too many questions. Plus the owner mainly cared about selling his books. Since then, the site was re-modeled to mask its cult like atmoshere, plus the forum members there are critically brainwashed...I cry for them sometimes. Why people are afraid to trust themselves is baffling. I only want to stand with the truth, I offer no harm just love, my only confrontations came from those with ill intentions.

A couple of years ago, someone lead me to this site because they figure I could do some good with the information provided, for the reason of the kind of people I hang around with. Let’s just say I’m a person of creativity, and a member of an analytical think tank…also, I’m a professional in the fields of media entertainment, law, and the metaphysics. I have very strong ties in various professions and I’m in a rare unique position to make big things happen. Many of my cohorts are lurkers on this site…you’ll probably be surprise and pleased in knowing who they are. Unfortunately, recently we have come to a decision that much of what is spoken on these alternative sites are probably just fantasies, due to the way these sites are run. Numerous times I’ve asked for confirmation on various subjects discussed here (whether it’s in a post, PM, or Email), I have yet to receive anything other than questions asking who I am and what I do. If I expose my identity, I expose others who are looking to make a difference by using their influences in government/ and media to further the fight for our collective rights. I honestly thought this would go smoothly, but the day to day delays and ignored request are leading us to think something isn’t right here. Deceit may be at hand, the sad thing about it all is it can’t really be proven either way…not until too late. If you want something done you have to do it yourself...No one is going to or wants to wipe your ass for you. Our inability to clean up our own mess (on a collective scale) displays more than our character...it shows we are not trustworty. If a higher being or aliens truly exsisted, I expect them to already know this...probably why they are seldom seen..if seen at all. When we can't figure out a way (collectively) to combat a few evil controllers than we as a whole are weak.

Since my arrival to Avalon, I’ve read testimonies about alien contact/abductions and unproven theories of our future. I don’t like posting in such threads because there is no proof within them…just gullibility. Most times I feel like I’m re-reading scripts to movies that were shelved due to their derivative content. I’m aware there are secret test being conducted on humans as well as animals. But, my sources tell me these incidents are done by men and not aliens. Just think about it. There is more proof (especially in common sense) that man is behind everything that has anything to do with aliens attached to it, mainly because they can control the masses by keeping them feeling powerless….to an unseen entity. There is just so much control to gain by having the masses believe in this. I also have a few threads here that can provide more insight to what I’m saying.

If you look at the results of all this hoopla (just here alone)…what do you see? Well, as for me, I see panic/ division/ confusing/ denial/ stagnated individuals/ hate/ and egotism. In fact, I even noticed certain members operating under several accounts just to make them selves look authentic. It’s really not hard for me to notice these things…apparently it is to some, probably because they are more concern with post counts instead of the material, and the actual world outside of the trap.

If we were truly headed into a time of despair, the people who are in the know will do their parts to prevent it, instead I’m noticing sly ways to gain notability, funds and the energy and time of those that can/should be doing things that are importantly constructive and productive to the world. Why are they hanging around doing nothing when they can do something of significance…even here?

There are very very few threads here dedicated to the well being of humanity, but there are tons of fear mongering, unproven Sci-fy like material and senseless debating. See where I’m going with this?

For a world that is supposed to be in a state of emergency I don’t see the urgency…just fighting, fabrications, and deliberate confusion being placed in the inquiring minds.

As I mentioned earlier…I’m not privy to the leisured time of posting here, so I may be wrong in some of my assessment…I mean no harm, nor do I wish to insult anyone’s integrity…. They can do that on their own.

When I do visit, I always hope to see whistles blown, ET revealed, and humans collaborating on plans to building a brighter and better tomorrow.
So, can someone/anyone give me an update to what’s happening here, a summery would be great? It’s very noisy around here…a lot of talking, but hardly anything of significance is being said…

Any feed back to whats happening will be greatly appreciated.

Peace

[Dennis Jonathan]

A summary:

**** is getting real.

Japan has been HAARPED

Obama is hiding

Military projects in the south pole hiding in plain sight

The 9th wave of comsciousness is happening right now

The world is glued to the media sensationalizing yet another tragedy while "something" else is no doubt happening.

1 million dead fish in an LA port.

US treasury notes are being dumped globally

The day after a HAARP location is found in NV, it is blamed for the Japan quake

Bill is finishing up 4 new interviews

Charles is touching base, unable to post yet

Lord Sidious is dropping carrot propaganda over the eastern seaboard

The San Andreas fault is a trillion dollar enterprise that may be ready to cash in on its residents

I have a bag and a plan, and can have my family mobile and out of CA within 3 minutes notice.

What else do you want to know?

I'd be interested in co-creating a solution, if you and your sources were so inclined (as would many here).

Your tone seems to express more of an expectation, than willingness to contribute.

Am I reading you wrong?

[Nairnia]

A summary:

Japan has been HAARPED



SERIOUSLY?????

Seems someone just needs to fart now and its down to HAARP. Do you have any credible source for this?

[king anthony]

I say, what does it matter what is going on in a fraction of the whole!? Is it not, that all elements of the equation give the sum!? One may know a part and each may know parts and together the lager is known; do the hands know as the feet do - are each not part of the whole!? Has not 'direction' been given and dismissed by the limits of one or the few!? If one makes claim and says another, what is said of the one!? I say, what is the measure of contribution, if no standard has been given - lest 'progress' be burned at the stake by the emperor. All have potential, yet only some have ability and the few will carry this 'burden' with them.

[happyexpat]

Peace of Mind,

I can relate to some of the frustration I feel from your post. I read the PA forums for a while before I joined, and I ended up just happening to join shortly before Charles arrived on the scene.

I often think back to the post about the "noise to signal ratio" and trying to keep the noise down here. There is an awful lot of noise.

There are nuggets here and there, and some really fascinating people to bump into along the way if you have the time to dig. I run my fingers a bit every now and then when ignorance or hatred get overwhelming. Sometimes it helps me to remind myself, I really do believe people are generally doing the best they are capable of at any given point in time.

That being said... We all need to be the change we want to see in this forum and in the world.

With love,

K

[Dennis Jonathan]

A summary:

Japan has been HAARPED



SERIOUSLY?????

Seems someone just needs to fart now and its down to HAARP. Do you have any credible source for this?

Did you read my whole post?

I was obviously stepping in and out of gross overstatements.

Well, apparently not that obviously :P

[Lifesong]

When asked about ufo's, Arthur C. Clarke said something to the effect of:
1. UFOs are real
2. They are manmade
3. You'll never prove #2

Interesting perspective, though I'm more concerned with the whole Ascension issue.

I've sometimes wondered if the Ascensionists realize how timely the theory of evolution is to their belief. Isn't that the crux of the whole 'transformation/ascension' process - that its the evolution of humanity?

Those good people that died in the earthquake/tsunami today - they ascended. Maybe we should ask ourselves if that's what we're giving our permission for.

I think we owe our Life Force alone the sanctity it deserves by not just surrending to 'the big cull'.

Just my thoughts, no need to attack. To each his own.

Thanks for posting, Peace of Mind. I'm ready for us to get on with it too.

- In Peace

[Nairnia]

Did you read my whole post?

I was obviously stepping in and out of gross overstatements.

Well, apparently not that obviously :P

HaHa, mustve had irony switched off!

[Peace of Mind]

Thanks guys,

Pardon me if I seem impatient. But, that may be partly due to the lack of facts provided in the whistle blowing. I’ve been told that this site/forum is for their testimonies.

I’m aware of what is seen in the media, and I suspect Haarp is part of the recent earthquake in Japan, but I’m looking for substance, anything that can provide some authenticity to the claims. Speculations are not going to be any good for me because most of my power will be seen in global exposure. I can’t be put in a position to expose opinions and/or half facts. It is very important that this is done correctly, too much may be at risk, but we are definitely prepared to take that step.

There are only a few people wasting this beautiful planet, not everyone involved in high positions are aware, or are in agreement to such travesty. We just want to do what’s right while we still hold those positions to do so…

Anyone with proof of such things like 2012, illuminati, or anything unrighteous done to us and our world should be handled responsibly. There is just too much talk around here about these subjects as if the proof was already on the table. Conjecture is healthy but can’t be passed along as important data. I’ve seen many lose their careers/power in this manner.

As I said before, I rather not converse in such threads due to the lack of proof, plus I don’t want to insult anyone who may be truthful in their claims. I just feel like I missed critical information or people are just compliant to any information. We need to be more creative and responsible in our info distribution.

You have to stand for something or fall for anything… I stand for the undeniable truth; the rest will basically work itself out….I’ll just usher it along to the masses at a faster pace.

Peace

[Lord Sidious]

Did you read my whole post?

I was obviously stepping in and out of gross overstatements.

Well, apparently not that obviously :P

HaHa, mustve had irony switched off!

How come you do the irony?
Don't youuu get your wife to do that when she is out of the kitchen?
Oops, you said irony, I thought you meant ironing.

[buckminster fuller]

Hi Peace of Mind,

I share your feelings about the state of the forum today. There are initiatives being taken, but very few people are willing to act, or so it seems. Either people feel hopeless, smacked down by the system entropy, or waiting for help from a saviour, aliens or whatever.. I am quite new here, and really glad I came because I've met truly nice, intelligent, open-minded people with whom I share a broad spectrum of intentions. If you have time for that, please have a read at the http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?15249-United-People-an-Alternative-World-Order&highlight=United+People thread, and drop us a line to tell us what you think about it.

Peace

[slipknotted]

Hi guys...

Whats happening here? Where are we going, where are we at now?

I hardly have time to visit this site like I want to, but it seems like the forum is breaking up and I?m feeling like I wasted a great deal of time here, I don?t have enough digits on my hands and feet to tell you how many times I?ve heard the term ?be patient?. Now that term is starting to sound suspect?along with the other terms I noticed to get thrown around lately " learn to discern", ?no one is keeping you here?, ?you can leave?,?etc. In my experiences these set of words always come out when the heat is on, or when an agenda is about to be exposed. With that said?I?m still holding out hope because there are very beautiful people here, I don?t want to see any of them lead a stray or into a trap?worse of all kept from doing their parts in life. I think this is what I?ve been witnessing?. Hopefully we are not wasting our time, nor kept in the dark purposely just to prevent people from being pro-active. I was banned from a New Ager website because I asked too many questions. Plus the owner mainly cared about selling his books. Since then, the site was re-modeled to mask its cult like atmoshere, plus the forum members there are critically brainwashed...I cry for them sometimes. Why people are afraid to trust themselves is baffling. I only want to stand with the truth, I offer no harm just love, my only confrontations came from those with ill intentions.

A couple of years ago, someone lead me to this site because they figure I could do some good with the information provided, for the reason of the kind of people I hang around with. Let?s just say I?m a person of creativity, and a member of an analytical think tank?also, I?m a professional in the fields of media entertainment, law, and the metaphysics. I have very strong ties in various professions and I?m in a rare unique position to make big things happen. Many of my cohorts are lurkers on this site?you?ll probably be surprise and pleased in knowing who they are. Unfortunately, recently we have come to a decision that much of what is spoken on these alternative sites are probably just fantasies, due to the way these sites are run. Numerous times I?ve asked for confirmation on various subjects discussed here (whether it?s in a post, PM, or Email), I have yet to receive anything other than questions asking who I am and what I do. If I expose my identity, I expose others who are looking to make a difference by using their influences in government/ and media to further the fight for our collective rights. I honestly thought this would go smoothly, but the day to day delays and ignored request are leading us to think something isn?t right here. Deceit may be at hand, the sad thing about it all is it can?t really be proven either way?not until too late. If you want something done you have to do it yourself...No one is going to or wants to wipe your ass for you. Our inability to clean up our own mess (on a collective scale) displays more than our character...it shows we are not trustworty. If a higher being or aliens truly exsisted, I expect them to already know this...probably why they are seldom seen..if seen at all. When we can't figure out a way (collectively) to combat a few evil controllers than we as a whole are weak.

Since my arrival to Avalon, I?ve read testimonies about alien contact/abductions and unproven theories of our future. I don?t like posting in such threads because there is no proof within them?just gullibility. Most times I feel like I?m re-reading scripts to movies that were shelved due to their derivative content. I?m aware there are secret test being conducted on humans as well as animals. But, my sources tell me these incidents are done by men and not aliens. Just think about it. There is more proof (especially in common sense) that man is behind everything that has anything to do with aliens attached to it, mainly because they can control the masses by keeping them feeling powerless?.to an unseen entity. There is just so much control to gain by having the masses believe in this. I also have a few threads here that can provide more insight to what I?m saying.

If you look at the results of all this hoopla (just here alone)?what do you see? Well, as for me, I see panic/ division/ confusing/ denial/ stagnated individuals/ hate/ and egotism. In fact, I even noticed certain members operating under several accounts just to make them selves look authentic. It?s really not hard for me to notice these things?apparently it is to some, probably because they are more concern with post counts instead of the material, and the actual world outside of the trap.

If we were truly headed into a time of despair, the people who are in the know will do their parts to prevent it, instead I?m noticing sly ways to gain notability, funds and the energy and time of those that can/should be doing things that are importantly constructive and productive to the world. Why are they hanging around doing nothing when they can do something of significance?even here?

There are very very few threads here dedicated to the well being of humanity, but there are tons of fear mongering, unproven Sci-fy like material and senseless debating. See where I?m going with this?

For a world that is supposed to be in a state of emergency I don?t see the urgency?just fighting, fabrications, and deliberate confusion being placed in the inquiring minds.

As I mentioned earlier?I?m not privy to the leisured time of posting here, so I may be wrong in some of my assessment?I mean no harm, nor do I wish to insult anyone?s integrity?. They can do that on their own.

When I do visit, I always hope to see whistles blown, ET revealed, and humans collaborating on plans to building a brighter and better tomorrow.
So, can someone/anyone give me an update to what?s happening here, a summery would be great? It?s very noisy around here?a lot of talking, but hardly anything of significance is being said?

Any feed back to whats happening will be greatly appreciated.

Peace well said, there is to much fear mongering and to many talking out their ass's or arguing or spreading wrong info, this place not long ago seemed special to be apart of now every typical cleshea respose is given, there are great stuff here but it's starting to feel very commercail.......sad, i mean no harm but people seem to be ego driven or the " all about me syndrome '

[slipknotted]

A summary:

Japan has been HAARPED



SERIOUSLY?????

Seems someone just needs to fart now and its down to HAARP. Do you have any credible source for this? right i mean are stupid goverment cant pay the bill's already so we're causing a major event so we can spend more money to help to fix it ? SURE

[Rog]

.......As I said before, I rather not converse in such threads due to the lack of proof, plus I don’t want to insult anyone who may be truthful in their claims. I just feel like I missed critical information or people are just compliant to any information. We need to be more creative and responsible in our info distribution.

You have to stand for something or fall for anything… I stand for the undeniable truth; the rest will basically work itself out….I’ll just usher it along to the masses at a faster pace.

Peace

Thanks for the post, it adds focus to the forum. I've never been able to explain it but even being skeptical growing up about "past-lives", I have never been able to shake the feeling that somewhere, somewhen, I was involved in running ****. That being expressed, I know for a "fact" that looking for proof will be endless road and a distraction.

It's similiar to understanding that the true mark of intelligence is not what level you can provide answers, but at what level can you provide questions. Our problem realistically in my opinion is that there is a "critical mass" of people who still will not begin to question or discuss anything alternative to what they're being fed, even with the world as it is. And even after that there's people who are aware of some of these things and are so daft they just kinda laugh it off without feeling/thinking the implications.

So this is where I see our responsibility ultimately being in digging into this world of information without proof, formulating..."blades of thought" and provide lines of questions that kick peoples minds open like a key in a lock. It has to be poetically precise to properly convey to people what's really going on without choking them on long drawn-out ideas that may very well be false or irrelevant.

[Dennis Jonathan]

Thank you for your second post Peace. Much more constructive.

I would encourage you to engage Bill directly. Much of his work is along the same intentions of yours, public awareness. Unfortunately, much of the "proof" he uncovers must remain off record for the safetY, and well being of his contacts.

I have never been privy to insider NWO intel, but I have been on the inside of many corporate, and sensitive legal situations. I can tell you from that experience, that I would sooner have quit my job, and fled the country than made public what I was legally and morally bound to keep private. Mostly because to do so would have forced the previous in any case.

If you have the ability to use your resources in such a way as youve expressed, I for one would personally and financially support a meeting with TPTBV. (the power that is Bills voice).

[Fred Steeves]

I share your feelings about the state of the forum today. There are initiatives being taken, but very few people are willing to act, or so it seems. Either people feel hopeless, smacked down by the system entropy, or waiting for help from a saviour, aliens or whatever..


Yes, it does SEEM like that, and to a large extent it is. But, what I feel to the core of my DNA is that there is no plan of action or initiatives that has a snowball's chance in hell of succeeding. That is playing ball by the other guys' rules, and they are extremely good at this game. The ONE thing that cannot be controlled or foreseen is spontaneity, any other planned action merely ties the hands of infinite possibility, which we all inherently possess.

There are ever growing numbers of peaceful, awakened souls on this planet who are patiently watching, and waiting, to do what they came here to do when the moment is right. Whatever that might be.

One thing for sure, I would NOT want to be on the other sideline right now, no matter how smirky and arrogant they appear to be...


Cheers,
Fred S.

[buckminster fuller]

Won't look at my son and tell him don't worry, it'll come ok, just wait.... Once awakened, people can unite, and there is no doubt that the numbers are in our favour. I'm not a believer of the "plan from out there". The only plan is experience and creation, and it has to do with the choices we make.

Peace

[Tangri]

A summary:

**** is getting real.

Japan has been HAARPED

Obama is hiding

Military projects in the south pole hiding in plain sight

The 9th wave of comsciousness is happening right now

The world is glued to the media sensationalizing yet another tragedy while "something" else is no doubt happening.

1 million dead fish in an LA port.

US treasury notes are being dumped globally

The day after a HAARP location is found in NV, it is blamed for the Japan quake

Bill is finishing up 4 new interviews

Charles is touching base, unable to post yet

Lord Sidious is dropping carrot propaganda over the eastern seaboard

The San Andreas fault is a trillion dollar enterprise that may be ready to cash in on its residents

I have a bag and a plan, and can have my family mobile and out of CA within 3 minutes notice.

What else do you want to know?

I'd be interested in co-creating a solution, if you and your sources were so inclined (as would many here).

Your tone seems to express more of an expectation, than willingness to contribute.

Am I reading you wrong?

I hope your choice of mobility is going to work when with in 3 min notice you received

[loveandgratitude]

WE were all pre-warned a long time ago about this particular time in history. So, all one can say is 'FASTEN YOUR SEAT BELT, WE ARE GOING FOR A RIDE, SIT BACK AND ENJOY". Probably the best advice. WE live in intersting times. I LOVE IT.

[Odah]

I have wanted to make a post like yours..Every indication looking at this site and the sites like it. Makes it obvious that we are right where we have been this whole time . They have corrupted the conspircy movement and the new age movment the same way the corrupted the Religions of the world . Divide and further divide. Then creat fighting in between factions .

The site is only good if you are searching for information to help you wake up and enjoy life more.. everything else is a distraction.

[InCiDeR]

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Very good summary Dennis. Thank You.


@peace of mind.
Welcome back. We need everyone to get this ship on the right direction again.

[Icecold]

Undeniable truth....@peace of mind.

I went searching for undeniable truth. I could not find any.

Fact: Triangles have 3 sides?

Some one in a math department has said that.....

Turns out the answer is very slightly less than 3. The actual number is uncomputable, but it's close to 2.982.

Damned rumors.

Here is another search for undeniable truth...


The Undeniable Truth About cure for hemorrhoids That No 1 Is Telling You


To deal with hemorroids, you could increase your consumption of fiber and fluids to maintain water within the body, NSAID analgesics, use of sitz baths, and loads of rest. In case it worsens after following these remedies, surgery is recommended. Even if plenty of topical agents and suppositories are offered to treating hemorrhoids, there is scepticism for the shortage of proof to verify their use. Preparation H may relieve some of the signs though it does not treatment the illness and continued use is prevented resulting from pores and skin inflammation. hemorrhoids treatment

Avoid prolonged sitting on places with exhausting surfaces as a result of it may trigger an excessive amount of strain and worsen the condition. Use a ring cushion when sitting. Warm sitz bathtub is popular to alleviate the symptoms. It should be achieved for 15 minutes and should be at least three times a day to minimize pain and swelling. It should be dried after the process and rubbing should be avoided to forestall bleeding and infection. hemorrhoids cure

Having a weight loss program regimen helps a lot. A excessive-fiber-weight loss program and loads of water can cut back constipation by softening the stools. High consumption of fiber have improved the condition and may be achieved by taking dietary supplements with fiber . hemorrhoid creams


Sclerotherapy lessens the swelling by means of chemical fluid injected to the affected area. The application of sclerotherapy is thru the injection within the hemorrhoid of a sclerosing agent (for example, phenol ). This results to the contraction of the vein walls making the hemorrhoids dry out.

The hemorrhoids blood provide is interrupted through the rubber band ligation which makes use of elastic bands to tie up an inner hemorrhoid at least 1 cm above the dentate line . The shriveled hemorrhoid will simply fall off after 5-7 days. Be certain that the band is just not placed too near the dentate line as this causes excessive pain instantly.


OK another search for undeniable truth.....

Rush Limbaugh’s 35 Undeniable Truths......

1.There is a distinct singular American culture - rugged individualism and self-reliance - which made America great.

2.The vast majority of the rich in this country did not inherit their wealth; they earned it. They are the country's achievers, producers, and job creators.

3.No nation has ever taxed itself into prosperity.

4.Evidence refutes liberalism.

5.There is no such thing as a New Democrat.

6.The Earth's eco-system is not fragile.

7.Character matters; leadership descends from character.

8.The most beautiful thing about a tree is what you do with it after you cut it down.

9.Ronald Reagan was the greatest president of the twentieth century.

10.The 1980s was not a decade of greed but a decade of prosperity; it was the longest period of peacetime growth in American history.

11.Abstinence prevents sexually transmitted disease and pregnancy -every time it's tried.

12.Condoms only work during the school year.

13.Poverty is not the root ("rut") cause of crime.

14.There's a simple way to solve the crime problem: obey the law; punish those who do not.

15.If you commit a crime, you are guilty.

16.Women should not be allowed on juries where the accused is a stud.

17.The way to improve our schools is not more money, but the reintroduction of moral and spiritual values, as well as the four "R's": reading, 'riting, 'rithmatic,

and Rush.

18.I am not arrogant.

19.My first 35 Undeniable Truths are still undeniably true.

20.There is a God.

21.There is something wrong when critics say the problem with America is too much religion.

22.Morality is not defined by individual choice.

23.The only way liberals win national elections is by pretending they're not liberals.

24.Feminism was established as to allow unattractive women easier access to the mainstream of society.

25.Follow the money. When somebody says, "It's not the money," it's always the money.

26.Liberals attempt through judicial activism what they cannot win at the ballot box.

27.Using federal dollars as a measure, our cities have not been neglected, but poisoned with welfare dependency funds.

28.Progress is not striving for economic justice or fairness, but economic growth.

29.Liberals measure compassion by how many people are given welfare. Conservatives measure compassion by how many people no longer need it.

30.Compassion is no substitute for justice.

31.The culture war is between the winners and those who think they're losers who want to become winners. The losers think the only way they can become

winners is by banding together all the losers and then empowering a leader of the losers to make things right for them.

32.The Los Angeles riots were not caused by the Rodney King verdict. The Los Angeles riots were caused by rioters.

33.You could afford your house without your government - if it weren't for your government.

34.Words mean things.

35.Too many Americans can't laugh at themselves anymore.


I'll continue my search for undeniable truth.....

Meanwhile you can continue your work with facts.

BTW future events can never be facts until they are past events and even then we have Heisenberg's Principle to contend with.

Gook luck and best wishes from the Twilight Zone.

[InCiDeR]

The only undeniable truth is there are no undeniable truths. :neo:

[jorr lundstrom]

The only undeniable truth is there are no undeniable truths. :neo:

You havent met our cats. I think they are holding on to something, maybye. Love and carrots Jorr

[Dennis Jonathan]

http://i.pgu.me/yvjbqJHJ_original.jpg

[mondaze]

tom cruise moment: show me the MONEY.... we all crave definitive proof... but there is none, as a wise man once said, the lie is different at every level. That is where our intelligence and creativity comes into the equation. We soak up all the snippets of 'truth' we find and create a worldview which incorporates them. We are all probably way off the mark, but at least we are seeking and I don't think its helpful to tell the ordinary people who are seeking to sit down and shut up, because you dont know sh1t! dont we want to wake up the x-factor masses?

[Wookie]

Everywhere I go, there I am

happy trails Wookie

[Icecold]

tom cruise moment: show me the MONEY.... we all crave definitive proof... but there is none, as a wise man once said, the lie is different at every level. That is where our intelligence and creativity comes into the equation. We soak up all the snippets of 'truth' we find and create a worldview which incorporates them. We are all probably way off the mark, but at least we are seeking and I don't think its helpful to tell the ordinary people who are seeking to sit down and shut up, because you dont know sh1t! dont we want to wake up the x-factor masses?


we all crave definitive proof

By all means crave away....it's a little like a drug addiction.

Enjoy.


because you dont know sh1t!

Your self reflection is refreshing.

I agree.

[Icecold]

Is time travel possible?

In this fascinating short documentary, director Jay Cheel explores the real-life theories behind the science of time travel and the strange subculture of enthusiasts who are obessed with it. Meet Michio Kaku, world-renowned theoretical physicist and author of the book Hyperspace. Meet Rob Niosi, a hobbyist building his own full-scale home replica of H.G. Wells' time machine. Meet Larry Haber, the entertainment lawyer representing the family of John Titor, an alleged time traveller from the year 2036. Do these people know something about the world that the rest of us don't? Obessed & Scientific is a quirky look at the intersection of science-fact and science-fiction.



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