Japan Nuclear Fallout...!

[Deega]

Hi Avalonians, Guests,

Here is photo from Rense indicative of the Nuclear Fallout from the Explosion brought in by the Tsunami.

West Coast Canada will be in the fallout, is it serious or not?


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All my blessings.

Deega

[Nenuphar]

As if I didn't already yearn to be home (East Coast) enough already...! According to the map, I am right in the path of this junk.

[Deega]

As if I didn't already yearn to be home (East Coast) enough already...! According to the map, I am right in the path of this junk.

Thanks Nenuphar,

Hmm!, I guess all Vancouverian Coastline Homes will be caught up by this disastrous event, how unfortunate!, how unnatural!, how devastating!, this event is.

If you're caught up in this part of land, and you can't moved, I guess, take your time to learn how to protect yourself of it.

May the Earth, Wind, Water, Fire, Etherical energies be with you and your family in this difficult event.

All my blessings.

Deega

[HURRITT ENYETO]

Hi Deega :)

Has a fallout situation been confirmed yet?
I thought they were getting it under control?
And i wouldn't worry about the fall out spread on Rense just yet as there are many variables. The wind could change any moment and blow in the opposite direction.

So try not to worry too much :)

Hurritt

[slipknotted]

heard the plant or a fallout event might happen today and some scare's around the web on the 15 wensday check out this youtube channel called patrioticspace the guy is spooked, interesting !

[slipknotted]

so am i make sure and keep your eye's and ear's open

[robert]

As if I didn't already yearn to be home (East Coast) enough already...! According to the map, I am right in the path of this junk.

Hi Nenuphar.
Just in case, you might want to get some Iodine pill, you can get them anywhere.
Please have a look at this article.
http://thyroid.about.com/library/weekly/aa121101a.htm

I'm way too far East in Canada to be hit by those possible fallout but is this information can help anyone...

[MorningSong]

Here's a place to see the jet stream:

http://www.weatherbank.com/free/grafx/jsnh.gif

http://www.weatherbank.com/free/grafx/jsnh.gif

[shybastid]

As if I didn't already yearn to be home (East Coast) enough already...! According to the map, I am right in the path of this junk.

Hi Nenuphar.
Just in case, you might want to get some Iodine pill, you can get them anywhere.
Please have a look at this article.
http://thyroid.about.com/library/weekly/aa121101a.htm

I'm way too far East in Canada to be hit by those possible fallout but is this information can help anyone...

Thank you Robert. I JUST posted this question in another thread.. I don't want to over react. But might want some just to be safe.

[Arrowwind]

Please be aware that iodine is not the best choice for protection of the thryroid against radiation.

You want potassium iodide... also know as SSKI

[robert]

Please be aware that iodine is not the best choice for protection of the thryroid against radiation.

You want potassium iodide... also know as SSKI

Thx Arrowwind i'll look into this.

[Czarek]

I guess all the fruits and vegetables from the west coast will be on sale soon.

[Czarek]

Potassium iodide (Lugol's solution) dosage is:

1 drop for 10 days for kids
10 drops for 10 days for adults

This protocol will saturate your thyroid with non radioactive iodine. This is the protocol I use in my hospital.
It tastes best with Orange Juice. DO NOT MIX IT WITH MILK.

Czarek

[JoshERTW]

CBC confirms this - doesn't have figures but does say fallout could reach B.C.:

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2011/03/12/earthquake-japan-nuclear-explosion.html

[shybastid]

Much thanks. Is this to be taken in advance? Or after we know we might be or have been exposed?
Or is it too late then?

When is the best time to start taking it?

Again, thanks for the information. Not paranoid,just concerned

[Arrowwind]

Well that report sounds promising. Hopefully things hold.

[RAKMEiSTER]

i posted this a bit ago.

self quote few minutes ago:@chat

[6:47:18] <+RAKMEiSTER> and fallout Picture is Feartactics,
[6:47:25] <+RAKMEiSTER> worsts case meltdown
[6:47:30] <+RAKMEiSTER> isnt the case
[6:47:41] <+RAKMEiSTER> (Nuclear powerplant current status)
[6:47:48] <+RAKMEiSTER> =good
[6:48:49] <+Grace_For_Ki> i wonder if all this has taken their minds off war for a bit

that pic is meltdown(full*)than estimated fallout. (right/sure@) and rense is sometimes very onesided. (one side of the extrme polarity)

(tralala also made good points , go check unless your division is so deeply settled

(the one with big wave to usa and canada that pic) << refrence to, fearshizbs!
rest is indeed correct for japan.(regio)

*my add to pic. doesnt show current case

[13:44:59] <+RAKMEiSTER> http://www.insc.anl.gov/cgi-bin/rperl/sql_interface?view=newrx_data&qvar=oracle_id&qval=204

vs picture of the packing system/cooling and the seperate systems.

so from what i can grasp. the blowup call it, did more good than bad. and them folks out there still work the FEAR tactic.
same for the tsunami WARNING ALERTS, that yesterday eu time i allready knew was over @ 17:00 yesterday(or even earlier) time shifts haha) yet they kept doing WARNING all day long up to deep into the night ( donoo currect havent checked, since i know its bs since refrenced time.


peace

addtohere
http://modernsurvivalblog.com/nuclear/west-coast-usa-danger-if-japan-nuclear-reactor-meltdown
stupid pics wont edit load here click
http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/1534/***ushimaboilingwaterre.jpg
http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/3526/51650158nuclearreactor6.gif

vs the other link with specs,


and anything from GPL/rense/ATS is "to be glared at" in this sense.

and number dont match the case we got.

and more add
http://www3.nict.go.jp/y/y223/simulation/realtime/movie/2011/test_6.20110310.avi
see the TiME period vs quake happening(that actually woke me up from sleep that shift) before teh quake (45min to be exact). (2nd quake right after was enduced 1st legit cause ^) timing. where is where the cabal used it, to enduce the directed tsunami at japan..


--
. "Mel Fabregas One of my contacts in Japan said something very interesting. She was outside one of our military bases and observed many ships leaving very fast toward the north of Japan...ON WEDNESDAY. Remember, Japan has been threatening to get rid of our bases there for some time. Also, a piece of news that didn't make it here is the fact that the...
---
so reading between the lines.. japan wants the US base out of there anyways.. and wouldnt accept help from them.. as it would mean they have to sell out to the US again
(non delivrence coolant ) its a big sick game they play.


just connect the dots and look through the crap and fearfocus. and it can be clear.

and why not join the chat. :) talks easier than post by post @ forum, working non in sync ha.
duo=better than singular, yet it aint trinity :tsk:

[Czarek]

Much thanks. Is this to be taken in advance? Or after we know we might be or have been exposed?
Or is it too late then?

When is the best time to start taking it?

Again, thanks for the information. Not paranoid,just concerned


To be on the safe side, If I lived on the west coast, I would start taking SSKI today. It is best to take a batch that's not more than 3 months old. You may find hard to find it (at least in Canada) as for some reason, it is classified as poison. But if you look at alternative treatment programs, like for example the Gerson Institute, they utilize it daily for cancer treatment.
In Canada, you can find it at any cancer cernter pharmacy. My hospital sells it for I think $3.00.

[shybastid]

Rackmeister... Actually Crecent Bay got hit pretty hard,and without the advance warning,more lives could have been lost. The one life lost was a photographer that stayed too close to shore and got swept away. Everyone else moved inland.
http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/Tsunami-Hits-Hardest-in-Crescent-City-FEMA--117813538.html

A Nuclear Physicist was on television earlier today.
He stated the meer fact that the Japanese government was trying to cool the reactors using saltwater ,was an indication that the generators used to cool the reactors have failed. That alone, according to him is of concern.
He sounded surprised live on the air that saltwater was being used.
He went "OHHHH well, THAT'S not good"
I am not a fearmonger. And I try and read between the lines too. Just want to be cautious and prepared.

[shybastid]

Drudge Report has a tendancy to sensationalize anything HE reports.
But they are not sources of their information.
They just cut and paste.

http://www.drudgereport.com/

Not encouraging around the Globe, in my opinion.

Lot's of bad things happening.

[Lifebringer]

This is exactly the reason WE the people frowned so heavily on Nuke power. Man is infallible, and mother nature doesn't give a hoot for polluters. All those deep sea holes in the "ring of fire' offshore, will turn the already pressurized crust to crumbly moving matter, and release the volcanic molten lava to boil the seas.

I had always though if we had to use it, the containers which cost megabucks in a capitalistic cut corner economy, and the companies care not for the people so they cannot be in charge of the regulations.
But if we would have started a Global waste and salvage to remove and send the waste to a orbit of the sun, then it would burn up upon impact.
All those bright ideas during the 70's are still worth a look, otherwise, NO NUKES, still unsafe, and dangerously carcenogenic and dna damaging.

[mojo]

My home in Oregon might be in the path. I hope that all nuclear power plants will take all necessary measures to ensure their emergecy shut off and cooling systems work like they were designed. I personally don't want to breathe radioactive air. Our need for energy will continue and we can only hope it doesn't happen again. I feel much safer having said that...not. I could preach about the governments need to release free energy devices and change the way we do business... but I won't.

[fourty-two]

As to iodine, you can buy Betadine in any drugstore or the generic provodine iodine under the store lable.

[fourty-two]

IMPORTANT RE BETADINE OR PROVODINE IODINE DO NOT DRINK IT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES
BUT it can be safely uptaken by the body just by applying it to the skin - say your whole back or chest. Let it dry on and your body will do the rest. Its wonderful stuff for wounds too. I buy the brand name Betadine because I find it works better but they both work

[Jake]

It leaves me with a broken heart. With all of the natural (seemingly) devistation occuring from earthquakes and tsunamis,,, It may turn out that the worst damage is STILL done by mankind. ie, Exploding nuclear reactors. We can concievably clean up and rebuild from the storm. WE CAN'T CLEAN UP NUCLEAR RADIATION!!!

[ulli]

it leaves me with a broken heart. With all of the natural (seemingly) devistation occuring from earthquakes and tsunamis,,, it may turn out that the worst damage is still done by mankind. Ie, exploding nuclear reactors. We can concievably clean up and rebuild from the storm. We can't clean up nuclear radiation!!!

yes we can....; )

[Deega]

Hi Deega :)

Has a fallout situation been confirmed yet?
I thought they were getting it under control?
And i wouldn't worry about the fall out spread on Rense just yet as there are many variables. The wind could change any moment and blow in the opposite direction.

So try not to worry too much :)

Hurritt

Thanks Hurritt Enyeto,

My information come from Rense Web Site http://www.rense.com/general93/fallout.htm, so, your feelings on the accuracy of the document should rest on the opinion you have of Rense Web Site.

All my blessings.

Deega

[mrmalco]

My understanding is still that there's no acute crisis with the power station that blew its lid. With great respect to Rense I think they're being alarmist. But there's always a reason to research safety measures.

[Lifebringer]

and why not join the chat.
\
I tried joining and somehow got the name thingy, and password thingy mixed up. Don't know how to reset it though.

[Hybrid5226]

Our local compound pharmacy has potassium iodide tablets.

Might be another option for folks to check out before going on line .

90 tablets for 28.00 dollars

Peace

[RAKMEiSTER]

Rackmeister... Actually Crecent Bay got hit pretty hard,and without the advance warning,more lives could have been lost. The one life lost was a photographer that stayed too close to shore and got swept away. Everyone else moved inland.
http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/Tsunami-Hits-Hardest-in-Crescent-City-FEMA--117813538.html

A Nuclear Physicist was on television earlier today.
He stated the meer fact that the Japanese government was trying to cool the reactors using saltwater ,was an indication that the generators used to cool the reactors have failed. That alone, according to him is of concern.
He sounded surprised live on the air that saltwater was being used.
He went "OHHHH well, THAT'S not good"
I am not a fearmonger. And I try and read between the lines too. Just want to be cautious and prepared.



see my updated post.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?16205-Japan-Nuclear-Fallout...%21&p=173686&viewfull=1#post173686

[Arrowwind]

As to iodine, you can buy Betadine in any drugstore or the generic provodine iodine under the store lable.

Potassium Iodide is the type of iodine used to protect the thyroid from radiation... as in Lugols iodine, SSKI, or potassium iodide tablets that you may be able to find in pharmacies.

[Calz]

It leaves me with a broken heart. With all of the natural (seemingly) devistation occuring from earthquakes and tsunamis,,, It may turn out that the worst damage is STILL done by mankind. ie, Exploding nuclear reactors. We can concievably clean up and rebuild from the storm. WE CAN'T CLEAN UP NUCLEAR RADIATION!!!

Worse yet is that intentionally spread. Accidents at reactors are one thing.

***DEPLETED URANIUM*** is quite another. Unless "et" knows how to clean up that stuff it will supposedly be hanging around for a few million years.

[FearNot]

................

[heyokah]

i posted this a bit ago.

self quote few minutes ago:@chat

[6:47:18] <+RAKMEiSTER> and fallout Picture is Feartactics,
[6:47:25] <+RAKMEiSTER> worsts case meltdown
[6:47:30] <+RAKMEiSTER> isnt the case
[6:47:41] <+RAKMEiSTER> (Nuclear powerplant current status)
[6:47:48] <+RAKMEiSTER> =good
[6:48:49] <+Grace_For_Ki> i wonder if all this has taken their minds off war for a bit

that pic is meltdown(full*)than estimated fallout. (right/sure@) and rense is sometimes very onesided. (one side of the extrme polarity)

(tralala also made good points , go check unless your division is so deeply settled

(the one with big wave to usa and canada that pic) << refrence to, fearshizbs!
rest is indeed correct for japan.(regio)

*my add to pic. doesnt show current case

[13:44:59] <+RAKMEiSTER> http://www.insc.anl.gov/cgi-bin/rperl/sql_interface?view=newrx_data&qvar=oracle_id&qval=204

vs picture of the packing system/cooling and the seperate systems.

so from what i can grasp. the blowup call it, did more good than bad. and them folks out there still work the FEAR tactic.
same for the tsunami WARNING ALERTS, that yesterday eu time i allready knew was over @ 17:00 yesterday(or even earlier) time shifts haha) yet they kept doing WARNING all day long up to deep into the night ( donoo currect havent checked, since i know its bs since refrenced time.


peace

addtohere
http://modernsurvivalblog.com/nuclear/west-coast-usa-danger-if-japan-nuclear-reactor-meltdown
stupid pics wont edit load here click
http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/1534/***ushimaboilingwaterre.jpg
http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/3526/51650158nuclearreactor6.gif

vs the other link with specs,


and anything from GPL/rense/ATS is "to be glared at" in this sense.

and number dont match the case we got.

and more add
http://www3.nict.go.jp/y/y223/simulation/realtime/movie/2011/test_6.20110310.avi
see the TiME period vs quake happening(that actually woke me up from sleep that shift) before teh quake (45min to be exact). (2nd quake right after was enduced 1st legit cause ^) timing. where is where the cabal used it, to enduce the directed tsunami at japan..


--
. "Mel Fabregas One of my contacts in Japan said something very interesting. She was outside one of our military bases and observed many ships leaving very fast toward the north of Japan...ON WEDNESDAY. Remember, Japan has been threatening to get rid of our bases there for some time. Also, a piece of news that didn't make it here is the fact that the...
---
so reading between the lines.. japan wants the US base out of there anyways.. and wouldnt accept help from them.. as it would mean they have to sell out to the US again
(non delivrence coolant ) its a big sick game they play.


just connect the dots and look through the crap and fearfocus. and it can be clear.

and why not join the chat. :) talks easier than post by post @ forum, working non in sync ha.
duo=better than singular, yet it aint trinity :tsk:

Oh, RAK, you are really a MEISTER in writing Double Dutch RAK the English way....

[benevolentcrow]

Just purchased Life-flo Liquid Iodine Plus, Iodine & Potassium Iodide from our local co-op. Just to have on hand. I want all of my family to have some on hand, even if it is never used.
Here is a link for a different brand which I think is reasonably priced. Has many health benefits.

http://the-breath-of-life.amazonwebstore.com/The-Breath-of-Life-Lugols-Iodine/M/B001AEFM9Y.htm

[Arrowwind]

Just purchased Life-flo Liquid Iodine Plus, Iodine & Potassium Iodide from our local co-op. Just to have on hand. I want all of my family to have some on hand, even if it is never used.

Potassium iodide, aside from protecting from radiation for the thyroid, is a marvelous nutirent for the body, It can heal many conditions, and it and of itself has cured some cases of breast cancer. I would not be without it. It fully removed cysts from my thyroid. I have info on what it can do stored at www.healthsalon.org (http://www.healthsalon.org) just type iodine in the search feature.

[sllim11]

is "Lugols iodine solution" the same as SSKI?

[Czarek]

is "Lugols iodine solution" the same as SSKI?

yes, saturated solution of potassium iodide

[baggywrinkle]

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-dDUpPE-rB3o/TXvoWZyeUQI/AAAAAAAAAEs/CsoxGqoPu80/s1600/fallout+map.png


This is why boy scouts are always prepared.

The graphic is courtesy of Waterman. I have no earthly idea if it is legit or not.
But one thing is for sure, it is a GREAT way to sell KI tablets and dosimeters at
highly inflated prices.

Remember, when it absolutely has to be there over night, FEDEX is your friend

[TWINNICK]

7.00PM south australian time, sunday 13-3-2011

Just heard on BBC news(radio) that another plant is in possible nuclear meltdown, expecting explosion in containment vessel.

..Nick..

[ulli]

It leaves me with a broken heart. With all of the natural (seemingly) devistation occuring from earthquakes and tsunamis,,, It may turn out that the worst damage is STILL done by mankind. ie, Exploding nuclear reactors. We can concievably clean up and rebuild from the storm. WE CAN'T CLEAN UP NUCLEAR RADIATION!!!

Worse yet is that intentionally spread. Accidents at reactors are one thing.

***DEPLETED URANIUM*** is quite another. Unless "et" knows how to clean up that stuff it will supposedly be hanging around for a few million years.



At the end of Bill Ryan's interview with Jim Humble there is an interesting conversation about cleaning up depleted uranium.
I can't remember exactly what Jim Humble did when he worked in that field, whether he used the power of the mind or other technology,
but aparently he had some astonishing results.

[Contestant No.3]

I posted this very map to my facebook friends, and amongst them is an old school friend who actually worked at Australian Radiation Services.
The map is an unmitigated fake. Not only did my colleague advise me that they would never, ever produce a map in this way, but that they do not use the units of measurement in such a way.
He will be passing on the image to the owner of the company which he has assured me would have him rolling on the floor laughing, if the consequences of such a fake being released weren't so serious (think of the first time "War of the Worlds" was broadcast on radio.).

[blake]

Hello All,

This is a newsletter basically saying not to worry about any fallout from Japan. It's a quick Read. For those unfamilair with Bruce Beach, this is his area of expertise.
My apologies if soeone has already posted it.

Sincerely,
Mr. Davis
3/13/11

The numbers -
if you are seeing them at all
probably look strange
and not something you are used to seeing.

Lots of generalities -
that mean nothing.

"The amount of radiation has doubled."
"The level is a thousand times higher than usual."
Etc.

Without actual numbers -
all that means nothing.

The numbers that we see
look unusual -
because like with metric -
the rest of the world went one way -
and the US another.

Canada and much of the world
uses units from the Système International (SI)
to measure radiation.
The SI is based on the metric system.
These units include the:

* becquerel
* gray
* sievert
* coulomb/kg

From the early 1900s,
through to the 30s,
until the 1960s,
another set of units were used.
They were called the:

* curie
* rad
* rem
* Roentgen

The United States still uses these units.
In point of fact -
I do also -
but sometimes in reading scientific articles
I have to go in and make the conversions.

The reason that I still use them
is that the radiation detection equipment
(which is surplus from the sixties) -
that we all have -
is marked in those units.

And - once again -
the US still uses those units -
and so do many of the militaries in the world.

The distinctions between

Rad
Rem
Roentgen

are insignificant as far as laymen are concerned -
and we speak simply in terms of R.

The distinction between a
mR and an R, however,
is NOT insignificant -
because a milli (the m)
is one thousand times smaller.

And a milli is a thousand micros -
so -
a micro (µ) is a MILLION times smaller amount
than an R.

Here is a conversion calculator for the measurements

http://www.unit-conversion.info/metric.html

and here is a chart
that explains the differences
between the units (methods) of measure.

http://tinyurl.com/69mweaf

----------
Okay -
so here is as accurate a figure
as I have found:

***ushima plant radiation at 882 micro sievert vs ! 500 ! allowable in 1
hour

Now -
what does that tell us?

The key numbers that we want to understand are:

1 sievert (Sv), = 100 rem
10 microsievert (µSv) = 1 millirem (mrem)

Therefore dividing by ten:
88.2 = 88.2 millirem

Let us be ultraconservative and say -
that what we have there is 100 millirem
and not just 88.2

If it were 100
then it would take TEN TIMES that amount
to get up to one REM.

When we consider that it takes
an accumulation of 200 REM
to affect a healthy adult male -
then it would take ten times 200
or 2000 times that amount to affect
a healthy adult male.

What we are saying is -
the adult male would have to stay
on that radiation site
in the presence of that radiation
for two thousand hours -
or about one hundred days -
to feel the effects.

Even then that would not happen.
The reason is -
the radiation at the site
would be decaying (unless more is released)
AND
the accumulation in the individual would be decaying.

Radiation exposure is much like sunburn.
You can get a bit each day -
and it is like getting a tan.

You can get a whole lot over time -
and it won't necessarily hurt you.
My friend Ron -
who died in his eighties -
(from unrelated causes)
being in the industry
got a lifetime exposure of over 6,000R.

600R is fatal in a very short time -
if gotten all at once
(that is to say in a very short time).

So what goes with the statement above -
that only 500 microsieverts are allowable in one hour?

Well - the standards are just set -
VERY, VERY conservatively for peace time -
(non-catastrophic) events.

I do hope that you get the picture -
that nothing is about to come over here -
from the Japan nuclear problem -
and get you in your sleep.
There is just not that much there -
that is coming over here.
At least - anytime soon.

To make a long story short -
when the measurement says micro -
"Don't worry about it".

-----------
Don't panic -
you are not on the Titanic.

Well -
not exactly true -
because the whole world is a Titanic -
but I am not sure that the Japan Tsunami -
and the nuclear power plants were the iceberg.

There are other concerns and considerations.
People have written to me
asking me what about this Plutonium thing?

They have pointed out that nuke weapons
are generally made from Uranium -
and that these plants ran on Plutonium.

Among the scare literature
I have read statements such as:
"Plutonium is the deadliest substance
known to man."

Well - not exactly.
Lots of scare literature out there.
Concern is that when it becomes powdered
and people breath minute particles of it
that it can get in the lungs
and into the bone structures
and cause cancer.

Much the same story
that you hear about DU (Depleted Uranium) -
and there really is not much that I can say
to people who are already thoroughly convinced about
Depleted Uranium
Water Flouridation
Polychlorinated biphenyls (PCBs)
Asbestos
Chemtrails
or hundreds of other things
that worry people about our modern technological society.

But yes, the Japan nuclear generating stations
use Plutonium.
There are a number of different isotopes
of Plutonium.

Pu-238
Pu-239
Pu-240
Pu-241
Pu-242

I could go on at length
about their half-lives
and other distinctions.

Unfortunately -
we are getting bunches of this stuff
stored around the world -
and it is not going away soon.
Some of it -
once we create it will be around
for thousands of years.

We now all have minute particles of it
in our bodies -
from the nuclear testing and power plants.

Plutonium is more dangerous when inhaled than when ingested. The risk of
lung cancer increases once the total dose equivalent of inhaled radiation
exceeds 400 mSv.

(That is dose -
not the level of exposure -
or what is in the air.
So many things -
that those who haven't studied the subject -
that is to say - have had formal training -
fail to make the distinction.)

The U.S. Department of Energy estimates that the lifetime cancer risk for
inhaling 5,000 plutonium particles, each about 3 microns wide, to be 1% over
the background U.S. average.

Ingestion or inhalation of large amounts may cause acute radiation poisoning
and death; NO HUMAN IS KNOWN TO HAVE DIED BECAUSE OF INHALING OR INGESTING
PLUTONIUM, and many people have measurable amounts of plutonium in their
bodies.

As much as 1000 tonnes of plutonium may be in storage with more than 200
tonnes of that either inside or extracted from nuclear weapons.

The rest comes from nuclear power plants.

Immoral, immoral, immoral -
as I keep telling people.
We are supposed to pass a better world
onto our children -
not a worse one.

The plutonium scene
over in Japan
is pretty bad right now -
or could become so -
but it is not coming here.

Even there -
it will only affect those right nearby -
if there is a meltdown.

Nothing like Nagasaki!
Because - it isn't a nuclear weapon.
Weapons are different -
and put the radiation up into the air
which then comes as fallout.

I mention Nagasaki -
because the US dropped two bombs on Japan -
to experiment with them.

The second one was particularly an experiment
because Japan was in the process of surrendering.

The nature of the experiment was
that the first bomb on Hiroshima
was an uranium bomb
and the second bomb on Nagasaki
was a plutonium bomb.

So here we are back again -
to a big plutonium experiment.
The question is -
was nuclear power generated by it -
worth the hassle to the Japanese.

Mind you -
most of the destruction that we are witnessing -
was caused by the Tsunami -
and had nothing really to do with the nuclear power plants.

I do hope that people can really make the distinction
and see that this wasn't a nuclear weapon -
and that the fallout from it
really isn't like what we can look forward to
with a nuclear war.

Still, it is not a bad thing -
if you are prompted to go out and get KI.
I talk with Shane daily -
and he is getting multiple orders per minute -
and has long sold out of the Potassium Iodide pills.

He has asked me to
pass along his apologies
that he can't answer the emails
that he is getting from friends
because he is hundreds of personal emails behind.

He does still have vials
of KI concentrate for $20
which will make up 200 adult doses
or at least 400 child doses
and which you can still order from his web site.

My advice is to get that now -
because while I don't think you are going to need it -
for this event -
you will for the future event
that I have been warning you about.
THAT is going to be altogether different.

You can find Shane's source at the

www.ki4u.com

web site.

Now, because I anticipate that this newsletter
may get circulated around -
I will tell you a bit about myself.

a. I am an OLD guy - (nearing 80)

b. I am a Radiological Scientific Officer

c. I have kept up with field -
studying and writing on the subject
for the last many decades.

d. I have a large survival facility called the Ark Two

e. And a web page at:

www.webpal.org

where you can enroll for my newsletter.

Peace and love,
Bruce
DawnSayer@webpal.org

[Czarek]

I don't think giving exposure numbers from the nuclear reactor is relevant. You have a lot of radiactive material, some of the shielding is damaged producing various exposure readings at those affected areas. These exposures are much, much higher than say you're allowed to have in a public hallway of a hospital. People don't hang around in nuclear power plants thus lets keep things in perspective.

External exposure is no problem. To some degree, I agree as we have no idea how this will affect 2nd, 3rd generations... Things change when you injest it or inhale it. I'm not going to try to educate any one on Radition Safety, as the subject is very complex and throwing few ideas does not explaing the full picture. So, from the RSO perspective, we most likely have no problem.

But if, and I mean if the rods fall and mix with water, the result WOULD be an explosion of solid material (from what I understand it's a mix of uranium and plutonium oxide) like a volcano spreading radioactive material.

Steam or a hydrogen explosion caused by the mix would spread radioactive waste no more than 50km. True, but you have to consider the Jet Stream. Since there are many reactors in the area, this would be multiplied considering that we can expect some aftershocks to be one magnitude smaller than the main shock, so you would be expecting a 7.9! That IS a monster capable of producing a tsunami and more damage. Japan is in a state of emergency for a good reason.

So far, there has not been enough information about the hydrogen being vented, we don’t know how much was vented, what was vented and how radioactive it was.

But let's go back in history and please have a look at how radiactivity travelled from Chernobyll all over Europe:

http://zerodegreeburn.com/chernobyl/

It was only Poland that gave all its citizens SSKI (Lugol's solution). As determined by many experts in the past, it was the right move. In the past I supported nuclear power. I changed that opinion not on the basis of external radiation, but on the basis of what heavy metals, various isotopes do to a human body and our environment. And that my fellow human beings unfortunately is not part of radiation safety.

I am going to the CRPA-ACRP Conference this year. My gloves are off.

Kind Rregards, I'm going to bed.
Czarek

[The One]

US ICBM guards claim UFOs target nukes

IMCB's or Inter-Continental Ballistic Missiles were targeted by UFO's who would often systematically remove the nuclear material from war heads inside of silos on US Military Bases. These silos are trained by some of the most professional men and woman. Now either you believe the Military and Government hired mentally unstable people to be in control of our nuclear warheads, or these people are telling the truth.

So if the Ufo's or whatever these things are are doing this to Military bases then surley they would help with any nuclear leak from power stations.

What do ya think :wacko:

[mrmalco]

Looks as if the nuclear sites are falling apart bit by bit. Pray that the wind direction holds.

[JoshERTW]

I think if ET were planning on making an appearance, now would be a great time - I'm going to officially call this post a request for help from any benevolent ET groups out there willing to get their hands dirty on this one - no worries about the prime directive boys, let 'er rip!

[Arrowwind]

Report from Alex Jones .... worth listening too

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kom_Ls9wNTQ&feature=player_embedded#at=316 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kom_Ls9wNTQ&feature=player_embedded#at=316)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Q6iby1IBJQ&feature=player_embedded (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Q6iby1IBJQ&feature=player_embedded)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSmhXi-4CuE&feature=player_embedded

[Buchanan561]

Much thanks. Is this to be taken in advance? Or after we know we might be or have been exposed?
Or is it too late then?

When is the best time to start taking it?

Again, thanks for the information. Not paranoid,just concerned




Hi shybastid:

I got this information from James Horak; This is what he puts out:

Advice from JCH about Potassium Iodide (or called Lugals solution. I advise everyone to try and find sources for Lugol's solution with potassium iodide, the ONLY effective treatment for radiation sickness.

You haven't the time to order it by mail so go to aquarium supply stores and look for it, sold as a treatment for aquariums infected with icke. Begin taking it now, two drops in a glass of milk preferably. One for children. Regardless if it's a 2% or 5% solution.

Everyone on the west coast should start taking it now. If you buy it, SHARE. There won't be enough to go around. This is much more effective than the tablets. JCH


James Horak

Please post this on a forum Brian and send to Emma

[Buchanan561]

Our local compound pharmacy has potassium iodide tablets.

Might be another option for folks to check out before going on line .

90 tablets for 28.00 dollars

Peace


Have you tried Amazon.com

that is where I got mine. Lots of it. liquid drops, tablets, something to make drinking water safe and other things for less than one hundred dollars. I got enough of the K+ Iodide to treat 50 people. delivery was Less than 5 days. Can't treat just my household, I had to get enough for my entire extended family.

Emma

[chelmostef]

This guys is sending out a warning to those in the US...I dont belive its ment as fear post just a concerned heads up. Make of it what you will..


It is with a heavy heart that I am now issuing the highest level alert to my readers than I have to date. The threshold for an alert is one or more world events that personally cause me to take action.

I'm making this alert publicly available less than 36 hours after releasing it to my enrolled subscribers given its importance and the speed at which events are accelerating.

The substance of this alert centers on the unknown aftershocks that may result from the world's third largest economy, Japan, rapidly shifting from an exporter of funding to a consumer of it. In situations like these, we are by definition operating with incomplete and often confusing Cont...

http://www.zerohedge.com/article/guest-post-alert-nuclear-and-economic-meltdown-progress

[chelmostef]

Advice from JCH about Potassium Iodide (or called Lugals solution. I advise everyone to try and find sources for Lugol's solution with potassium iodide, the ONLY effective treatment for radiation sickness.

And camping shops as they sell it for water purifaction worth checking out as well.

[Arrowwind]

This is a must watch

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7SZC61oMglw&feature=player_embedded (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7SZC61oMglw&feature=player_embedded)

[RAKMEiSTER]

Status of Fukushima #1 power station as of 21:30, March 17, 2011
“Operation for filling the pool with water at unit-3” http://www.jaif.or.jp/english/news_images/pdf/ENGNEWS01_1300368607P.pdf

[Hervé]

What else is new...?

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Then there is the cesium plume propagation estimates:

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See these sites for the animations:

http://http://derstandard.at/1297820491194/Animation---Aktualisiert-Moeglicher-Verlauf-der-Strahlungswolken

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2011/03/16/science/plume-graphic.html?nl=todaysheadlines&emc=thab1

... and the latest update on Japan Nuclear situation from CBC:

http://news.ca.msn.com/canada/video.aspx?cp-documentid=cbcc2011-1703-1410-0050-184634904500&src=CPSmall:shareBar:permalink

:faint:

[RAKMEiSTER]

^^^^more what ifs what ifs what ifs from germany. (animations) and NY .
and CBC some more Main controlled news.
(see merkel;s sudden change)
(you will not get smarter from watching CBC/MSM & Co
just as folks quoting cnn, lollll

Proper News : PressTV http://www.presstv.ir/live/llnw/

[Hervé]

The trouble is that the stuff is already floating around and its effects are cumulative.

When falling down, not only one will keep breathing it in, but also ingesting it through food if precautions are not taken.

Hence, monitoring the propagation is paramount.

[sllim11]

nDcZMgDWRkU

do not know if this has been posted or if this is the place for it... seems no one is even talking about the nuclear disaster anymore?

not even on avalon.

[Arrowwind]

I think some people may be in denial.. its a hard pill to swallow and if you are not taking steps to educate and protect yourself that is a clear indicator of denial
this is one of the most important videos to watch.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Be0ow2Jjs9E&feature=player_embedded (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Be0ow2Jjs9E&feature=player_embedded)

[sllim11]

please look at this. it looks serious... ?

haMePBnkJhY

[Flash]

thank you and this very important, it makes me sad, the lies does make me much more sad though. If we are to be sick, we should know the reasons. Itis a planetary cover up similar to the Golf of Mexico cover up, on a much larger scale.

[Carmody]

An interesting chart. Thought it might be useful.

http://xkcd.com/radiation/

http://imgs.xkcd.com/blag/radiation.png

[Pillowtalk]

Hi Deega :)

Has a fallout situation been confirmed yet?
I thought they were getting it under control?

So try not to worry too much :)

Hurritt

Who has been listening to the MSM & TEPCO propaganda??
Under control?? this will lead to a mass extinction event, first in the oceans & then............

PT

[Sidney]

An interesting chart. Thought it might be useful.

http://xkcd.com/radiation/

http://imgs.xkcd.com/blag/radiation.png
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I would be curious to know who exactly created this chart, that would be a tell tale whether it is trustworthy or not.