The White Knights Report linked on Kerry's blog

[Calz]

Good stuff ... thanx Kerry :)

http://whiteknightsreport.blogspot.com/

[bashi]

I have several times warned against digesting unproven statements, of which Fulford is really full of.

I don`t know whether it is being done out of ignorance or out of the intend to deliberately disinform.
Make up your own mind. I have already.

[OmeyocaN777]

I have several times warned against digesting unproven statements, of which Fulford is really full of.

I don`t know whether it is being done out of ignorance or out of the intend to deliberately disinform.
Make up your own mind. I have already.

I agree that we must be careful on unproven statements but also i agree to be "open"(seek/connect dots) in every direction.......

[bashi]

I agree that we must be careful on unproven statements but also i agree to be "open"(seek/connect dots) in every direction.......

Yes, open, but with personal background research. There is no use in connecting unproven or false dots.
Question everything without being a debunker!

For example this fulford article:

FIRST:

I posted already this:


I do not think it was a HAARP event.

The quake was at 05:46 UTC.

The magnetometer readings at HAARP show no anomaly until AFTER 06:00 :



http://img560.imageshack.us/img560/2987/gacomahaarpfacilitymagn.png (http://img560.imageshack.us/i/gacomahaarpfacilitymagn.png/)


http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?16310-Ben-Fulford-Calls-Japanese-Earthquake-and-Tsunami-a-HAARP-Event&p=174539&viewfull=1#post174539


Now: If it was true that HAARP was the origin of the quake-pulse, then what we see after 06:00
is a kind of "echo", isn't it?
Question: Do you think you can receive an "echo" without noticing the original signal?

It might be possible, although very unlikely.


SECOND:

The video inside his article:


B3e5Qq9NTw4

Pretty convincing that this is another dot to be connected. It is from the same date as the quake appeared. I whish it would be that easy...

See this video from the 19th November 2009:


Ys1txZ-baSk


So, i don't know what Fulford is up to, but
- at best he is not doing his homework....
- at worst it is deliberate disinfo

In both cases he has disqualified himself as a source of "dot-able" info.

.

[Chicodoodoo]

In both cases he has disqualified himself as a source of "dot-able" info.

I would not dismiss Fulford's suspicions without good evidence. I do not consider your evidence as good enough. I'm also not advocating Fulford's claims as being absolute truth, either. However, based on the preponderance of evidence currently available, and the indications that evidence is being withheld or manipulated, I think there is good reason to suspect a crime has occurred.

[OmeyocaN777]

Today there was another earthquake in Japan near tokyo 6.1(in 10 km depth)
Even the big earthquake 8.9 was in 15 miles depth(23-24 km depth).....i think
We know that Haarp hits in 10-33 km depth.
All the last earthquakes in Japan was until 33 km depth.
Make a quick research in google and you gonna see that.
I'm not saying that it was Haarp for sure but there is definitely something "strange" here.

[bashi]

I think there is good reason to suspect a crime has occurred.

Ok, so what is the evidence?

Is the absence of evidence the proof that a crime has occurred?

[Chicodoodoo]

Ok, so what is the evidence?

Is the absence of evidence the proof that a crime has occurred?

As is the case for most well-executed crimes, the evidence is circumstantial, and it does not by itself constitute definitive proof. The fact that earthquakes also occur naturally makes investigation even more challenging, but that kind of challenge is to be expected with a well-organized crime. The current MO of the crooks is to mask their crimes with natural events. For instance, they no longer blow people's brains out like they did with JFK. Instead, they use EM beam weapons to invoke heart attacks or strokes, so that assassinations appear to be natural events.

So the circumstantial evidence is that the ruling elite have HAARP and other tools. It is known these tools can cause earthquakes and influence weather. It is known that China got hit with a series of earthquakes when they were threatening the US with economic disaster by dumping Treasury bonds on the market a couple of years back. There were about 20 earthquakes, all in different locations in central China, and all of them had epicenter depths of exactly 10.0 km, according to the USGS. That would indicate that they were artificially created. Of course, the crooks have since learned to vary the epicenter depths, to make things look more natural. There's much more evidence than just this, but it takes a lot of good detective work to assemble it all and package it up properly for a jury. Obviously, that's not my job. And obviously, a jury will never see any such evidence. I've done enough detective work to convince myself that criminals are at the helm, and that being the case, crimes are highly likely to be occurring. I don't require definitive proof. I only require removing reasonable doubts.

And of course, the lack of evidence is not proof that a crime has occurred. But one of the characteristics of a successful crime is that you don't leave evidence behind.

[Snowbird]

I think there is good reason to suspect a crime has occurred.

Ok, so what is the evidence?

Is the absence of evidence the proof that a crime has occurred?

Bashi, check out #37 and look at the graph.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?16142-Was-Japanese-earthquake-and-other-catastrophies-made-by-HAARP/page2

[Whiskey_Mystic]

See this video from the 19th November 2009:

I spent three years on the island of Okinawa in the late 70's. The sky did this fairly often. Even weirder, the sun would dip below the cloud layer at sunset and light up the underside of the clouds orange and gold. It was incredible! I remember as a child thinking that it looked like gold coins from a pirate treasure. I don't think I have ever seen a sky as beautiful as that one was. So I am saying the video does not show HAARP activity.

We have been told that HAARP can create earthquakes and we have evidence to believe that it did in China, based on the plasma markers in the sky before the quake. It is a possibility that the Japan earthquake was caused by HAARP, but I don't see enough evidence to make that the final call. It seems more likely to me that as the energetics of the earth are changing, we are seeing an increase in earthquakes and volcanic activity around the globe. I live right by San Francisco by the way, and I have bought extra food. He he.

[bashi]

I think there is good reason to suspect a crime has occurred.

Ok, so what is the evidence?

Is the absence of evidence the proof that a crime has occurred?

Bashi, check out #37 and look at the graph.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?16142-Was-Japanese-earthquake-and-other-catastrophies-made-by-HAARP/page2


Hi Snow,
you are right.
I made a mistake and was looking at data 24 hours before the quake occurred.
So my line of argumentation is not valid and the graph clearly indicates an involvement of HAARP.

Question: As this thing was right in front of your eyes, why didn`t see and check anybody else
the graph and noticed my mistake?

[chelmostef]

I think there is good reason to suspect a crime has occurred.

Here is a possible motive -

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?16420-Japan-openly-talking-about-illegal-insider-trading-in-their-parliament%21

Although I was hoping to find something more recent... Im not sure the lay of the political system just before the earthquake.. Its quite clear from the videos that they was onto TPTWere, just what happened after the 9-11 exposure I dont know..

[Calz]

I think there is good reason to suspect a crime has occurred.

Ok, so what is the evidence?

Is the absence of evidence the proof that a crime has occurred?

Bashi, check out #37 and look at the graph.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?16142-Was-Japanese-earthquake-and-other-catastrophies-made-by-HAARP/page2


Hi Snow,
you are right.
I made a mistake and was looking at data 24 hours before the quake occurred.
So my line of argumentation is not valid and the graph clearly indicates an involvement of HAARP.

Question: As this thing was right in front of your eyes, why didn`t see and check anybody else
the graph and noticed my mistake?

Thanks for you posts in this thread Bashi.

Normally when I post something from Fulford I will add "reader discretion advised" or words to that effect.

This site contains more than Fulford so I did not.

I appreciate your hunger for "the truth". I expect many of us are here for that very reason so it is good to have a sceptical yet open mind with all material.

Having said that and considering the nature of a whisteblower site such as Camelot/Avalon, how much "proof" can we expect on many of the topics discussed here?

As Bill has mentioned having "solid verifiable proof" on some topics could lead to "consequences".

Let's lower the bar just a bit and talk about "circumstantial evidence". Even that term might be too strict. How about connecting dots or "things that make you go hmmmmm"?

For example how many things happened (like a plane hijacking "drill") on 9/11 that made you go "hmmmm"?

Getting back to Fulford's quake allegation (and he is certainly not alone) how about looking for patterns regarding some of the larger quakes in populated areas. Some patterns (or motives) are more obvious than others.

One that stuck out (for me at least) was Chile 2010. Here is a paragragh from Wilcock showing what was going on in Chile directly before the quake hit:



THERE’S A PATTERN HERE

As I’ve written in earlier entries of David’s Blog you can read here at divinecosmos.com, we’ve had a series of highly suspicious and highly destructive earthquakes this year.

The most obvious example was when Chile was hit with an absolutely incredible-sized earthquake — basically a 9.0 on the Richter scale — within days after every single country in South America gathered to form an alliance against the Rockefeller faction / New World Order.

Chile was a traditional US ally who participated in the big rally, and was about to become the leading country of the Rio Group as of March 1st, 2010. The Rio Group was the closest thing South America had, at that time, to a single, organized leadership for this new plan.

The massive earthquake in Chile, right to the day of when they took control of the Rio Group, was a very clear sign that the New World Order was striking back.

He goes on to talk about Haiti but for the sake of brevity I will stop there. If you want to read the whole article:

http://stevebeckow.com/2010/04/david-willcock-continues-to-connect-the-dots-on-disclosure/

Anyway, Fulford is an interesting voice to listen to regarding the Japan quake since he is there (boots on the ground so to speak). Though he gets *way* out there sometimes remember that even disinfo has to have enough "truth" in it to make it believable.

Sometimes it is still worthwhile for "questionable sources" to be heard to pick out a few useful morsels while sharpening your discernment skills.

Cal

[OmeyocaN777]

Guys check this out!
Even in gulf of Aden(stargate?) in 14 november 2010, 20 "small" (4-5 magnitude) earthquakes have occured and almost all was in 10 km depth.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFkKblEvWaA

[Snowbird]

I think there is good reason to suspect a crime has occurred.

Ok, so what is the evidence?

Is the absence of evidence the proof that a crime has occurred?

Bashi, check out #37 and look at the graph.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?16142-Was-Japanese-earthquake-and-other-catastrophies-made-by-HAARP/page2


Hi Snow,
you are right.
I made a mistake and was looking at data 24 hours before the quake occurred.
So my line of argumentation is not valid and the graph clearly indicates an involvement of HAARP.

Question: As this thing was right in front of your eyes, why didn`t see and check anybody else
the graph and noticed my mistake?

May I assume your question is directed at me?

I just happened to be reading the thread the other day, that I posted to you. Free Bird nabbed the evidence. You asked a question concerning evidence. I simply offered it. :wave:

[bashi]

I think there is good reason to suspect a crime has occurred.

Ok, so what is the evidence?

Is the absence of evidence the proof that a crime has occurred?

Bashi, check out #37 and look at the graph.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?16142-Was-Japanese-earthquake-and-other-catastrophies-made-by-HAARP/page2


Hi Snow,
you are right.
I made a mistake and was looking at data 24 hours before the quake occurred.
So my line of argumentation is not valid and the graph clearly indicates an involvement of HAARP.

Question: As this thing was right in front of your eyes, why didn`t see and check anybody else
the graph and noticed my mistake?

May I assume your question is directed at me?

I just happened to be reading the thread the other day, that I posted to you. Free Bird nabbed the evidence. You asked a question concerning evidence. I simply offered it. :wave:

No Snow, it was not directed to you, but to all members.
The graph from Free Bird is nearly the same i posted.
I made a mistake in reading it and would have loved to be corrected with a precise statement.
You pointed me into the right direction, but without statement.
Anyhow, it seems that Fulford got this one right.

.

[mountain_jim]

Quick note: Fulford damaged his credibility with me today by slamming Icke - saying is he a Rockefeller? - and no I did not watch the youtube he linked to.

Icke has performed more service to waking up humanity than Fulford will ever approach.

[Calz]

Quick note: Fulford damaged his credibility with me today by slamming Icke - saying is he a Rockefeller? - and no I did not watch the youtube he linked to.

Icke has performed more service to waking up humanity than Fulford will ever approach.

With you 100% on this one my friend!!

Icke is special and you have to take your hat off to him to go what he did in the early years.

Fulford???

Don't believe he is an *OUTRIGHT* disninfo guy aka Sorcha (my own belief only ... certainly could be wrong).

I believe he has some inside connections (at least in the japan/asia area) but as some speculate, it could very well be he is getting played like a violin by various power groups?

:spy: :gossip: :violin: :gossip: :spy: